the Holocaust of WW3 will be at least 10 times worse compared to WW2. The technology today means that victims can be simply vaporized to ash inside vast chambers, like giant microwaves.
Holocaust WW3 will be even worse.
Improvements in transportation means that much more victims can be crammed into trains.
The population explosion today requires at least 10, perhaps 20 times more innocent civilians to be liquidated.
Irving is a hero. Coren is a genocidal Jew-bastard posing as a Christian. -- Search for Coren's Sun media article where he called for Iran to be nuked.
The Holocaust was a Nazi policy and Hitler knew about it.
Hitler, 1939-1-30:
"If international finance Jewry inside and outside of Europe should succeed once more in plunging nations into another world war, the consequence will not be the Bolshevization of the earth and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe."
The majority rules and if you want to make light of the slaughter of millions of innocent people then you deserve to be hunted down and strung up by the relatives of these poor innocent victims! Burn him.take his house and wife and rape her,etc,etc,give this loudmouth a taste of what his sick mind is trying to forment! HE has no rights when he tries to justify what is plainly shown on film and documented! Hell is too good for this bastard!
"[...] camps were first presented as those in Germany, such as Dachau, Belsen, Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, and Dora, but it was demonstrated that there had been no systematic extermination in those camps. Attention was then moved on to Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, Chelmno, Jonowska, Tarnow, Ravensbruck, Mauthausen, and Birkenau which does not exhaust the list that appears to have been extended as needed." -- Columbia University professor Harry Elmer Barnes
@SellTheFake Is there something wrong with your mental thought machine? You are referring to 2nd and 3rd hand info to refute the eyewitness accounts of what has taken place! Why would you doubt for a second the extent to which the Nazis would go when all evidence of their actions shows them to be liars,backstabbers,and just plain ornery son of a guns in the way they dealt with people of the world? WHY? Pol Pot might have some luck with your re-education? Inside joke there? Get it?
the real murderers were the soviet jews such as Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda and Salomon Morel who exterminated untold millions during the 1930s and 1940s. There is zero proof that the Germans ever exterminated any innocents inside their network of prison camps.
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"The only thing we know about Hitler is that he killed six million Jews who never existed in gas chambers which nobody ever saw." - jewish professor Roger Dommergue
Argumentum ad populum and ad hominem. This show is pure propaganda posing as debate. The BBC is particularly adept at this technique which makes it easy for alert BBC viewers to spot it elsewhere.
Austria was treated as a victim? Wtf? That is such a popular slogan, but it is so false! Yes the Moscow declaration 1943 helped austria to get a constitution in 1955 and get rid of foreign troops, but we also had our period of reeducation. In school, I did nearly 6 months only on the Shoa. No Austrian thinks that Austria was a victim. That is complete nonsense-slogan.
But what about the Croatian Ustascha or the Hungarian Horvathy regime? Nobody talks about that! it is always Austria!
The law wants to secure that in Austria no jew gets offended, which is perfectly allright after industrialized slaughter. it is also a good law, that really would hurt real Nazis, since it is also forbidden to say the Holocaust was not bad. And maybe it can improve the image of the country?
Irving knows he would get arrested in austria, germany. Just do your nonsense in other countries, idiot.
Irving is a complete Fraud. He debunked himself in court. No one will publish his tripe. He is the laughing stock of academia. He currently makes his living selling Nazi paraphernalia. He is trying to sell strands of the Fuhrer's hair for enormous amounts of money. He do not specify if the hair is pubic or not. I guess he wants to address all possible markets. Currently, he is trying to authenticate bone fragments belonging to the Fuhrer. The Fuhrer would be so proud.
@AgouraMo Hi AgouraMo, to be honest I can see what youre saying about Mr. Irving and I agree that a good deal of the Academic world disregard his later works. But for me, he strikes as a very very sincere man, who genuinely believes in his historical findings (as oppose to say, for example, Andrew Roberts). Further, I think he is being done a major disservice here because he didnt actually 'deny the Holocaust', he questions aspects of the event, not the event itself. xx
@mysolitarystar: Yea, he is very sincere chap..LOL! I have seen all his vids. He states that he was a complete admirer of Hitler from his early childhood days. All his works are a formation of a complete bias. That is, he looks for any iota of data that supports his personal biases. That is not research...that is propaganda and that is why he is the darling of Neo nazis, White supremacists and now Islamic fascists.
@HarryBallbag: Irving is a laughable showboat. He had stated for many years that Hitler did not know what was happening to the Jews. In court, he stated after cross examination that Hitler had to have known by late 41". He is currently trying to sell strands of the Fuhrer's hair to "rich" Americans. He states he has to make a living. He is also currently trying to verify possible bone fragment's belonging to the Fuhrer as well. His website is hardly impartial...LOL!
@AgouraMo What a silly piece of misinfo your post is. I suppose Irving has doctored the transcripts on his site too, eh? He's certainly looking more credible than you at this point in time.
@HarryBallbag: LMAO! All of academia is laughing at the man. No publisher will print his tripe. There is something call academic discipline and peer review which have determined him as a propagandist not a historian. As stated his is currently trying to sell strands of (supposedly) the Fuhrer hairs..pubic or otherwise and you want to worship the man...go ahead..LOL! There are plenty of neo nazis, white supremacists and now Islamic fascists to inspire you.
@AgouraMo I work in academia and I'm very aware of exactly how politicised it is. I've already summed up the rest of your post previously: "Argumentum ad populum and ad hominem." All of your stuff in a nutshell my son.
@HarryBallbag: I am glad to see that you are employed..LOL! Just write him a check. He needs your support. I guess you are not a leading entity in academia...LOL! Thanks for your very valuable insight.."ad nauseum"..LMAO!
@HarryBallbag: Playing with a "dead" language hardly makes you competent or advances your dialogue. David Irving is a fraud. You have the right to worship a fraud but just don't expect intelligent people to follow. His support is overwhelmingly neo nazis, white supremacists & Islamic fascists. That's the company you keep..my little goose stepper. The courts proved he was a fraud. Only an idiot would rely on his site as an impartial source & venue for truth but every goose stepper needs an idol.
@HarryBallbag: LMAO! The publishers have it wrong. The courts are wrong. All of academia is wrong. Only you and your goose stepping ilk know the "real" "secret" truth...LOL! The Fuhrer would be so proud.
the jews always implement some colossal fraud whenever the world is topsy-turvy such as 1945. William Dudley Pelley wrote "The 45 Questions Most Frequently Asked About the Jews" in 1939 which footnoted that 8 million european jews were transported to America during the 1930s. Another 1.2 million european jews were moved to Palestine during the 1930s. When Mikhail Gorbachev unsealed the USSR archives it was revealed that the Soviets were only aware of 76,000 jews who died during WW2.
Another gang of kikeass-licking Anti-Gentiles, engaging in their customary incestuous drivel!!
You deceitful, lying scum!! You might persecute & terrorise the martyrs, but you can't stop the truth from spreading!
You 've got the blood of 10.000.000s of White Europeans, Japanese, Armenians, Africans, Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians, on your hands, and you WILL pay for it, sooner or later!
How can Irving deny "The Holocaust", when he says that about 4,000,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis, including 2,000,000 shot. Coren - what an arrogant moron.
Also your sense of logic is off. Communism is a political movement not religious. It only shows your antisemitism. Using your logic...Nazism is a Christian movement and Mao killed millions under the banner of Buddhism. Get an armband and be more honest.
What do you tell there? Mao has never been a Bouddhist?
How come all americans believe China to be a bouddhist country? There are mostly confucianists there, other chinese religions, some christians, muslim in the north... Bouddhists are in Tibet, Nepal, Vietnam.... and came from India. It was a peaceful religion, therefore it disapeared from hughe areas (Afghanistan, Pakistan, India...)
@Zzozze Ok, China is mostly Confucians. The point is that Communism is a political movement not a racial or religious vehicle. By the way, I thought the kamikaze suicidal pilots were Buddhists?
No :) kamikaze pilots were shintoists and emperor Hiro Hito was their Living God.
But I guess I found the answer to my question: it probably comes from the ignorance in geography by main stream TV journalists and hollywood scenarists who mostly rely on clichés. They have build a fully fiction-oriented culture in the US.
@Zzozze: I completely agree with that. I would point out that you would be hard pressed to name a country that does not have a culture devoid of fictional perspectives...not just the U.S. which has become a venting vehicle for a generic malaise felt in many countries that have a great deal of their own internal strife.
I should ad: they did train you since the last 60 years to always decrypt the reality in terms of good/evil, black/white ,in a strict dualistic way: no nuance, no shades of grey, no complex situations... "eather you're with us or against us"...
...and at the end of the movie the tough but "good" guy has butchered every of the "evil" guys and saved the city (country, world, galaxy,...). These simplification patterns are engraved in the young brains as soon as they can seat in front of a TV set.
@Zzozze: Well, stories can never have complete unbiased details or they would never end. A story is a deliberate technique. However, I do remember growing up with a sense of "fair play" given heroes & their plight even though historic accuracy were often trampled. Most documentaries would bore children to death. I think common themes such as hard work,fair play & family values are worthwhile & positive. "Life is not fair it is just a little more fair than death"(end quote "The Princess Bride").
@AgouraMo Thank you for providing a touch of black humor to my day and frame of mind listening to some of the BLIND commentary in favor of the idea that the holocaust was an illusion! This is not a good way to present yourself to the world if you expect to be treated like a human being! I know millions of dead "victims" who if they could arise would testify that the Holocaust was real and not an illusion!
Because there were some Jews in Communist movements doesn't make it a 'Jewish movement'. The majority of Jews rejected Communism. How come there were no Jews fleeing to the Other side of the Berlin Wall? I guess anti semites have a hard time answering that one. Also, which synagogue did Castro attend:?
NO SO CALLED RUSSIAN REVOLUTION WAS DONE BY JEWS FOR JEWISH INTERNATIONAL BANKERS!!every shool boy would tell you that !!they teaching that in Czech elementary schools!!
do u mean Plzen ?dont worry ..we all enjoy our beer :-)but dont forget to read about jewish coup in 1917 .when they raped Russia forever..if Romanov lived ..Russia would be different..so bad ..fo rthem now,same like they raped my country bloody bolshevics for 40 years and still do ,,cause communist bastards still in power in Czech .
Your sense of history is off. There were people of all nationalities involved in the Russian Revolution. There were many Jews, but if you knew that before the Revolution, Jews were limited only to live in one area of Russia , the Pale of Settlement, White Russia; they had no rights, and were being persecuted by the Old Regime. So Some helped in the Revolution. After the Revolution,many turned away because Lenin tried to ban Judaism. Fanna Kaplan, a Russian Jew, tried to shoot Lenin.
Holocaust deniers are nuts. It's a spit in the face of all the eyewitnesses, the soldiers from different armies that liberated the camps. The US, Britain and Anzac troops, the Russians, French, all liberated the camps. Were they lying? I notice deniers have nothing to say about the servicemen who liberated the camps.
that girl there mayby sexy ,but incredibly stupid !
gas chamber were used for anti lace fumigations..typhys was the real horros but only beacuse of US - Great britain bomber supply rail roads to the Auschwitz and other camps.until the fall of 1944 life was not paradise but good enough in these camps!
they had a so much better food and treatment than christians prisoners in the gulags !!and who was behind the gulags ?? atheistic zionist jews !Lenin,Kaganovich ,Trocky..and half jew Stalin...
typhus and mulnutrition......and end of 1944 and early of 1945 everyone were diying ..even german SS guards!!...The gas chambers were delousing units to stop the spread of typhus disease!
How incredibly stupid! Communism is a Jewish movement? You are a first class idiot. I guess using your logic Nazism is a Christian movement and Mao's People's republic of China was a Buddhist movement. You really need to read a book once in awhile.
It's almost funny listening to the JEWS trying to perpetuate the biggest lie on earth! I can't wait till the US goes broke and stop paying 1/3 of our world aid to Isreal on of the richest nations in the world! If you believe the holocaust was true after watching his videos you are ignorant and stupid. He never once said go beat up some Jews or anything derogatory about the Jews. Keep trying to cover up the lies! Don't beat up any Jews just stop giving them our tax dollars! Reality check....
Watch all of his videos and find one thing that is not true and respond to me. It was all propoganda made up by the British intelligence agency! The gas chambers were delousing units to stop the spread of disease! Read the signs on the doors to them! The US used Zyclon B to delouse ships way before the war even. They say they were cremating 6000 a day which defies physics, it takes 2 hours per body! You would need 1000 chambers to accomplish that, 500 if you doubled up requiring more time! DUH!
Quoting Mr. Justice Gray in his libel verdict,"Irving has for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence;...for the same reasons he has portrayed Hitler in an unwarrantedly favourable light, principally in relation to his attitude towards and responsibility for the treatment of the Jews;...he is an active Holocaust denier; ...he is anti-Semitic and racist, and...he associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism."
coren is a jew bitch! listin enyone who is well paid and well feed will not risk theit jobs over something that happened 70 years ago. i would but iam not in a position yet. thare is so mutch evidence against CERTAIN aspects of the holocost that arnt true.
The best response to this discredited Holocaust-denier and phony historian is given in the following book: Richard J. Evans, "Telling Lies about Hitler" (London, 2002) - it includes extracts from a damning 350-page summing-up of DI by a British High Court judge.
Mr. Justice Gray outlined DI's omissions, distortions and suppression of relevant evidential historical material, concluding that DI "manipulates the historical record in order to make it conform with his political beliefs."
i don't what the irving dude says, but the proof that he's prosecuted for speaking his mind on these matters is the definitive proof, that the jewish claw still holds large parts of this world... bad bad bad
In 1985 while under oath during the Ernst Zundel trial in Toronto the world's foremost so-called "Holocaust" expert Raul Hilberg was forced to admit that he had never visited a single one of the German camps before writing his 1961 book, "Destruction of the European Jews". And Hilberg only ever visited 1 camp (Treblinka) for a 1 day ceremony between 1961 and 1985. And this was the main jew that all the other jews always named as the person who knew the entire true story. Unbelievable liars.
his publisher was a jew. so how is he an anti-semite? and why are people antisemitic???? because jews practive judaism? i dont think that is the reason.
keltik31- it's jewish math. They have the six million number going all the way back to the Talmud. There's an old newspaper article from WW1 (one) that mentions 6 million killed in that war.
You had a push to create Israel at that time, along with millions of Holocaust pensions, which are still be paid. The 6 million is a religous number, Holocaustianity is a religion.
I feel really, really sorry for Canadians, as they are good people, like us Scots, but they are under the heavy boot of political correctness, more so than even us Brits here. For the life of me I can't fully figure out why. Here, it is Marxists/Zionists/Communists (pick any or all) that tells us what we can say, but in Canada? surely not yet.
What a sorry bunch - the presenter was the only one of those people that respect. Those people had NO idea about the topic they were discussing - its not about "beating up jews", its about TELLING THE TRUTH! So you cant read Mein Kampf now? What a joke.
dude u r soo right..its suddenly a crime to ask or seek the real holocaust number...ridiculous shit! where the fuck is freedom of speech here..i think mostly people can say the truth only when they are drunk..remember Mel?
why are jews becomming so hysterical about the research and truth about holocaust?..david is not anybody from the street..he is an historian..after his arrest we can see the double standards of the west..freedom of speech?? just bullshit all that...i have to through up...
jews protect the "6 million" number with their life because a lot depends on this number such as the creation of "Israel". jews also milk the public for dollars (guilt dollars) as they use this number. that's why jews can never let anyone debate this number, because the jew scam would come crashing down.
There were around 240,000 campers in total who died from starvation and disease but that's it and no gassings. There isn't a single photo or evidence of any kind that even one person was ever gassed by the Germans. When Germany lost WWII their propganda machine halted while the jew-controlled Allied countries all turned their propaganda machines up a notch or two which is how you end up with fantastic stories such as gas chambers, lamp shades and soap factories. It's all a load of crapola.
You'll never see a semite laying bricks on a builing site or digging a hole ,or roofing your house,this concept is alien to a semite and only aims to maximise ones profits at the easiest way possible.
Dont these people understand that all they are debating is the how far peoples thoughts and opinions can be sheperded or curtailed. Amazing how they suddenly assume a dennier of the Holocaust is suddenly a member of the National Socialist Movement. Does this 2 + 2 = 8 round table of idiots strike anyone else as control freaks?
how stupid...they arrested him for denying the holocaust...why an arrest...what happened to freedom of speech...i may not agree but thats ridiculous...
he was NOT arrested for denying the holocaust! He was arrested for a Stalin-Era Law that forbids "REACTIVATING THE NAZI PARTY." And of course the injustice is obvious because, on the one hand, he did NOT reactivate the party (!), but he DID go to jail!!!
I wonder if the words they are using in this debate to characterize people, who do not believe in holocaust, would be tolerated if used against jews. These people are a group of extreme racists!
Why did the comments section become a list of anti-semetic rants? For all of you out there who are interested in this debate, check out "Denying History" which explains the origins or the Holocaust denier movement in a scientific manner. Real history is not driven by hate and bigotry, its driven by facts. And David Irving was convicted for his crime and is now bancrupt.
yeah you're so right. And man didn't really land on the moon, it was all faked like the evidence for evolution/dinosaurs. Actually I think the world is flat. Can you prove otherwise?
America had nothing to do with the war, and up untill they entered, were on the side of german, as you can see from the news papers from that time. once zionists decided otherwise tho, like samuel untermyer, they switched up and got america into it, thuis defeating germany, and the balfour declaration was brought up showing that the zionists get palestine as their home land, for their part of the deal. do some research, dont believe your text books.
btw, the nazis documents state no where about killing all jews. get jews out of germany, yes. as germany felt betrayed when they found out it was the zionists who railroaded america into the war on the side of britian, when germany had all but beaten britian and offered them peace, to go back as if none of this had happened. britian was fucked, cuz of the u boats.
with no proof whatsoever, other than some war time photos of skinny jewish ppl in concentration camps.
silly ppl, do some research, look into history, dont take the word you were always told your whole life from the schooling institutions. use your own head.
"some war time photos of skinny jewish ppl in concentration camps."?! - R U for real?! What about the mountains of corpses and mass graves in many of the different camps you can watch here on YouTube?! What about the mountains of clothes, shoes, glasses and other belongings shown in those same films when the camps were first liberated? What the about the Nazis' own oral and written documents that testify to the 'Final Solution'?! What about the genesis of it all, Kristallnacht?!
what about the soap factories? o, proven false. what about german documents talking about exterminating all the jews?, o, doesn't exist. and what about all the millions of jews who pured into america, canada, israel, australia and so on... let me guess, all ghost?.
Yes, please take me to the Payless store where they have 10's of thousands of pairs of used shoes and a barbershop stacked to the ceiling with bags of shorn human hair. Nazi dumbfuck.
"Nazi dumbfuck" proves the whole sordid mess...good comment....keep it up...we then can see how baseless your auguments regaring the varacity of your assertions that shoes and hair is proof of "6 million dead people" all I see is HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS
None of the camps had 10s of thousands of shoes. If you look at the video the soviets took at Aushwitz, it wasn't up to the ceiling, it was about 3/4 from the ground.
And in the display at Auschwitz at has a false back to make it look bigger(!). I never understand that argument of exterminationists "Look at the shoes! The glasses!" Yes, they were taken off the prisoners, all clothes were de-loused and sterilised to stop the spread of disease and either recycled, kept in storage or destroyed. This and the haircuts were not done to "humiliate" anyone, rather to save lives.
That evidence is used for dramatic effect. People assume that the people who owned them must be dead, when in actuality, they were just shoeless.
They were looking for a scapegoat, a reason why 46 million people had to die in the war. Pesticides could be found on any US Navy boat for delousing, and there were signs in the camps warning the 5mph winds spreading typhus. But when they came upon the pesticides in Auschwitz, they must have been used to kill people.
zionism was all about getting jews out of europe, and into palestine. this plan was in the works since the 1800's. FACT. they also tried to say 6 million jews were being killed as early as the 1920's, this article was put in the readers digest i believe. but no one bought it, cuz the numbers are so outlandish. but put that story along with the war time propoganda, and voila, everyone bought it.
history is written by the winners. dont forget that. and dont forget the jewish bankers ie the Warburgs financed hitler and the nazis. this is a FACT. and this is why when hitler was supposedly trying to kill all jews in the world, he never rounded up any of the banking elite jewish families in germany, no they were allowed business as usual. cuz they were funding the whole damn thing. this was a Zionist operation, with nazis as the frontmen.
LOL I love the claims of denier dickweeds. The Holocaust is one of the most documented events in the twentieth century. No one has a problem with people investigating the holocaust. It's just that the sheer weight of evidence is so strong, anyone who emerges from their investigation claiming that they believe the holocaust never happened is either an intellectual retard or a willfully blind Jew hating Nazi, simple as that. Seriously that's whay all you denier tossers are, intellectual retards.
you havent a clue as to what you are talking about. no one is saying this event didnt happen, only that it didnt happen the way we were told. remember this was war time, nothing but propoganda is what we saw. and still see.
yes ppl do have a serious problem with any1 researching it. this is why it's illegal in close to 10 countries, canada being one of them, to even research it. you can be thrown in jail. theyre scare ppl will find out THE TRUTH.
otherwise there would be no problem with ppl wanting to research this event. its history. any other event illegal to look into in history? no. there is not. the only thing more ludicrous than actually deeming a historical event illegal to look into, is ppl who actualy stick up for this madness.
fucking idiots. lots of bad things happened to lots of groups of ppl through out history. EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, AND ALSO TO RESEARCH HISTORY!!! this is complete bullshit. why should the jews worry if ppl are investigating such a horrible thing that happened to them? shouldnt they welcome ppl looking at this and seeing what happened during the world war? what are they afriad ppl will find out?!
And Hitler SURELY could not order such a thing never ever, because he particularly forbidden such behavior,which would transform the jews in martyrs.Who profits for this? Make your choice.
He has been prosecuted for spread an idea. My goodness. Why are not prosecuted the ones that keep spreading the lies of the Holocaust It has been proven false,many times.
Your English is very bad, which doesn't surprise me given your clear lack of a decent education. 'The holocaust has been proven false many times?' When and by who? Some crazy, anti-establishment eccentric who wanted 15 mins of fame? You are a very silly person.
the fact is that no one ever has proven the holocaust with real evidence - despite all the captured german documents no one has ever found one single word about it. it's wartime propaganda that went out of control.
some jews perished under wartime conditions, so did a lot of germans, russians, poles and so on. so no, there wasn't a 'holocaust', is that so hard to understand?. eh?.
you should go there , maybe Mauthausen or Ausschwitz or ask people who now may be 69 and have numbers tattoed into their arms and really terryble memories and tha war propaganda that was done THEn... shows what they did to sanctify their doings... really its worth the journey
you are for believing such a blatant lie of a story. the holocaust never made sense. and thats why the zionist organizations such as the ADL would like to jail ppl for looking into a historical event. its complete insanity for anyone to think its ok and normal for a group to say yes we were persecuted and killed off in a holocaust, it was horrible, but dont look into it. if you do you will go to jail. what are they hiding!? wake up for christ sake.
there is no evidence for a jewish genocide. i mean, it's hard even for them to prove something that never happened. it's impossible to gas 6 000 000 in closed spaces and then go straight in on them and throw them into the fire. wouldn't it be more practical just to shoot them?. eh?. jews are the attackers, not the attacked.
Right, the Jews are the attackers. They killed 6 million Germans, not the other way around! - Were you dropped on your head out of the birth canal?! Killing 6 mio.(who says they were all gassed?!) over the course of several years spread out over dozens and dozens of (mostly) work and extermination camps really is not that hard to do. The Nazis and their collaborators succeeded at it.
o, i must repeat it to one more?. as the romanian 'holocaustprofessor' and former member of the zionist terror organisation irgun, elie 'the weasel' wiesel, stated:
'the secret of auschwitz truth lies in silence'.
silence?. that's not great evidence. not at all baby.
Saying that an actual MASS MURDER never took place is malicious and irresponsible. Democracy is about freedom...and responsibility...that's what defamation laws etc are there for (in relation to 'freedon of speech'). Anti-semitic laws were created to protect jews from those who wish to do them harm...e.g revisionists, nazis etc.
Who are these nitwits to question David Irving? He is a genius in his field. They're pretentious ignoramuses who just conform to popular politics. This idea that having an alternate opinion on something implies you are inciting violence is totally fallacious and silly. The only reason you need such draconian laws to protect a belief is not because it's true, but because it isn't true and you don't want anyone to find out.
Wrong! Laws against Holocaust denying in Germany and Austria are not in place to suppress the 'truth' as you twisted neo-Nazis see it - they are there because denying a FACT involving the mass murder of millions of people is an insult to the victims and humanity as a whole. Freedom of Speech is not unlimited nor should it be. You can't yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theater either.
these guys r narrowminded and hypocritical when it comes to being ridiculous. they don't even give a chance how holocaust 'denial' can be interpreted!
Irvings a hack. First he says there were no gas chambers and millions of Jews werent killed. Then right before his sentence hearing he claims that he changed his views and that there were gas chambers and "the nazis did murder millions of Jews".
No, he didn't say that. Under tremendous pressure and trying to save himself, he conceded that it was "possible" that it happened, not that it did. He was just being fair.
"I've changed my views. I spoke then about Auschwitz and gas chambers based on my knowledge at the time, but by 1991 when I came across the Eichmann papers, I wasn't saying that any more and I wouldn't say that now. The Nazis did murder millions of Jews. ..I made a mistake by saying there were no gas chambers, I am absolutely without doubt that the Holocaust took place. I apologise to those few I might have offended though I remain very proud of the 30 books I have written."
If you were in court, and may spend the rest of your life in jail or a considerable part of it, being an older man, and all you had to do was state a politically correct sentence to save yourself, wouldn't you do it? I don't blame him. I don't respect him for going back on his past statements, but I understand the situation he was in. He is still a brilliant historian and I respect his work, why do you think they hired him in the first place.
QUESTION TO APARTHIST, WHITE SUPREMACIST, SKINHEAD SCAMMAN COREN: If the German Nazi, Genocide Rouge State, decides anyone who puts anything on YOU TUBE will get 5 years jail, as in case of Zundel, which you approve, and prohibit YOU TUBE, as many want, would you applaud it? If yes is your answer, if you aren't a crackpot-hypocrite-why are you then on YOU TUBE?
jEWZ ARE GODS CHOSEN RACE !!! DIDN'T U GOYIM(cattle)KNOW THAT ? what an UGLY BITCH on the panel there she did not kiss jEW azz enough.jEWZ HAVE POLITICAL POWER GIVEN TO THEM BY GOD.THANK GOD U CAN DIE IN ARABIA FOR GODS CHOSEN RACE and perhaps you'll go to heaven for GOYIM.
LOL 'lille25' I love reading hate comments from ignorant neo-nazi fags like yourself, it makes for good entertainment LOL. The way you rant on about how much you hate the Jews, each sentence comprised of misspelled words of which a 5 year old could properly spell, it makes me laugh :) Here's an idea genius, how about you come back when you've learned how to spell at the level of an infant, then maybe you'll be taken seriously...probably not. HOMO.
i don't hate jews more than i love whites. but it's hard not to be bitter and depressed when all i can see is idiots. or, as director ingmar bergman said - i'm to intelligent to be glad, so i'm sad.
...lille25, do us all a favour, get a small pet so you have something to love that will heal that fractured psyche of yours. After thats solved, crack open a book you didnt get at the Nazi boutique. Oh, and then fucking read it you dunce.
the jews - as lazar moiseivich kaganovich, berman,
jagoda and so on - runned massextermination in communist soviet union killing millions. so what's the deal?. It's sad the 'Holocaust' didn't happen, the jews would have been worth it.
Yah and as you respond dummies,(the scumbags talking about "evil jews") realise Im not a Jew. German/English right here, so eat it. And to the dude denigrating 'intellectuals' aka Canadians, I guess this time around Persians are your buddies for the sake of argument, then monday morning its back to hating all dark skinned mud people.
BUT... I gotta maintain that, first you must protect free speech because silencing ANYONE is a slippery slope. And secondly, you gotta let the roaches enter the light so you can more easily see them to squash them. Infact I think there should be tv debates between these morons and someone with facts. So we can grab some popcorn, and watch as they're crushed by the weight of their own nonsense.
Freedom of speech should be applicable ALWAYS...The fact is, those that look to "debunk" the numbers are usually looking for more ways to hate jews. I mean frankly, who gives a fuck how many exactly died in gas chambers. Only 3 million ooooooh. Well then! maybe hitler wasnt so bad! Any one who denies that jews where persecuted and suffered an enourmous injustice(whatever form it came in) is a real challenged individual...
The irony is that David Irving spent 13.5 months in prison for denying the holocaust whilst real Nazi war criminals largely got off scot free in Austria. As far as I am aware Austria did not give out a single life sentence despite the fact that per capita it supplied more of the death camp personnel that any other region of Germany. Franz Stangl, commandant of Treblinka, felt so secure in his Austrian citizenship that he remained registered with the consulate until his arrest in 1969.
Good point. Hello from the USA. You have an interesting profile. I to like Bond films. For your Eyes Only is a great song as well as all Time High-Octopussy. Those beginnings with the naked girls doing flips is the best. Welcome
You are an unbelievable idiot for even trying to equate Galilei with a Nazi sympathizing crackpot historian like David Irving. Irving has never presented even one piece of solid evidence that supports his theories; if anything he actually seems to acknowledge a few things now that he previously denied w/ regard to the Holocaust.
i dont know if that laws are good or not. but nobody should be arrested because of his/her opinion. We had that laws (exactly 60 years ago). So is this law good?
i am from austria, and this is a very interesting discussion about our laws. Earving was found and arrested by police 3 miles from my home during a driver control. It is forbidden in our country to deny the holocoust and the concentration camps. A few austrian politicans also denied these things happening 60 years ago - and they also got problems with our justice.
We must have free speech.
belinda2118 4 weeks ago
another one sided cunt.
panhead55 4 weeks ago
Am Israel Hai.
DagurKGJ 6 months ago
the Holocaust of WW3 will be at least 10 times worse compared to WW2. The technology today means that victims can be simply vaporized to ash inside vast chambers, like giant microwaves.
Holocaust WW3 will be even worse.
Improvements in transportation means that much more victims can be crammed into trains.
The population explosion today requires at least 10, perhaps 20 times more innocent civilians to be liquidated.
rabsmiff 6 months ago
Jews.
Irving is a hero. Coren is a genocidal Jew-bastard posing as a Christian. -- Search for Coren's Sun media article where he called for Iran to be nuked.
awamoriwhiskey 7 months ago
SOONER OR LATER THE JEWS WILL PERISH...AND MOST PEOPLE WON'T BE SURPRISED
bazzatt1 8 months ago
Who is the hot chick with the cup of coffee?
scott30428 8 months ago
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The Holocaust was a Nazi policy and Hitler knew about it.
Hitler, 1939-1-30:
"If international finance Jewry inside and outside of Europe should succeed once more in plunging nations into another world war, the consequence will not be the Bolshevization of the earth and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe."
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
The majority rules and if you want to make light of the slaughter of millions of innocent people then you deserve to be hunted down and strung up by the relatives of these poor innocent victims! Burn him.take his house and wife and rape her,etc,etc,give this loudmouth a taste of what his sick mind is trying to forment! HE has no rights when he tries to justify what is plainly shown on film and documented! Hell is too good for this bastard!
MrReymoclif714 1 year ago
"[...] camps were first presented as those in Germany, such as Dachau, Belsen, Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, and Dora, but it was demonstrated that there had been no systematic extermination in those camps. Attention was then moved on to Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, Chelmno, Jonowska, Tarnow, Ravensbruck, Mauthausen, and Birkenau which does not exhaust the list that appears to have been extended as needed." -- Columbia University professor Harry Elmer Barnes
SellTheFake 11 months ago
@SellTheFake Is there something wrong with your mental thought machine? You are referring to 2nd and 3rd hand info to refute the eyewitness accounts of what has taken place! Why would you doubt for a second the extent to which the Nazis would go when all evidence of their actions shows them to be liars,backstabbers,and just plain ornery son of a guns in the way they dealt with people of the world? WHY? Pol Pot might have some luck with your re-education? Inside joke there? Get it?
MrReymoclif714 11 months ago
the real murderers were the soviet jews such as Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda and Salomon Morel who exterminated untold millions during the 1930s and 1940s. There is zero proof that the Germans ever exterminated any innocents inside their network of prison camps.
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"The only thing we know about Hitler is that he killed six million Jews who never existed in gas chambers which nobody ever saw." - jewish professor Roger Dommergue
SellTheFake 11 months ago 3
Argumentum ad populum and ad hominem. This show is pure propaganda posing as debate. The BBC is particularly adept at this technique which makes it easy for alert BBC viewers to spot it elsewhere.
HarryBallbag 1 year ago
Austria was treated as a victim? Wtf? That is such a popular slogan, but it is so false! Yes the Moscow declaration 1943 helped austria to get a constitution in 1955 and get rid of foreign troops, but we also had our period of reeducation. In school, I did nearly 6 months only on the Shoa. No Austrian thinks that Austria was a victim. That is complete nonsense-slogan.
But what about the Croatian Ustascha or the Hungarian Horvathy regime? Nobody talks about that! it is always Austria!
AustrianAtheist 1 year ago
WTF? We still have problems? What an asshole! There 1000 times more Nazis in the US than in Austria. I hate these ridicolous stereotypes...
AustrianAtheist 1 year ago
The law wants to secure that in Austria no jew gets offended, which is perfectly allright after industrialized slaughter. it is also a good law, that really would hurt real Nazis, since it is also forbidden to say the Holocaust was not bad. And maybe it can improve the image of the country?
Irving knows he would get arrested in austria, germany. Just do your nonsense in other countries, idiot.
AustrianAtheist 1 year ago
Irving is a complete Fraud. He debunked himself in court. No one will publish his tripe. He is the laughing stock of academia. He currently makes his living selling Nazi paraphernalia. He is trying to sell strands of the Fuhrer's hair for enormous amounts of money. He do not specify if the hair is pubic or not. I guess he wants to address all possible markets. Currently, he is trying to authenticate bone fragments belonging to the Fuhrer. The Fuhrer would be so proud.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo Hi AgouraMo, to be honest I can see what youre saying about Mr. Irving and I agree that a good deal of the Academic world disregard his later works. But for me, he strikes as a very very sincere man, who genuinely believes in his historical findings (as oppose to say, for example, Andrew Roberts). Further, I think he is being done a major disservice here because he didnt actually 'deny the Holocaust', he questions aspects of the event, not the event itself. xx
mysolitarystar 1 year ago
@mysolitarystar: Yea, he is very sincere chap..LOL! I have seen all his vids. He states that he was a complete admirer of Hitler from his early childhood days. All his works are a formation of a complete bias. That is, he looks for any iota of data that supports his personal biases. That is not research...that is propaganda and that is why he is the darling of Neo nazis, White supremacists and now Islamic fascists.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo The court transcripts are available on Irving's website. I'd be extremely grateful if you could point out where he debunks himself.
HarryBallbag 1 year ago
@HarryBallbag: Irving is a laughable showboat. He had stated for many years that Hitler did not know what was happening to the Jews. In court, he stated after cross examination that Hitler had to have known by late 41". He is currently trying to sell strands of the Fuhrer's hair to "rich" Americans. He states he has to make a living. He is also currently trying to verify possible bone fragment's belonging to the Fuhrer as well. His website is hardly impartial...LOL!
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo What a silly piece of misinfo your post is. I suppose Irving has doctored the transcripts on his site too, eh? He's certainly looking more credible than you at this point in time.
HarryBallbag 1 year ago
@HarryBallbag: LMAO! All of academia is laughing at the man. No publisher will print his tripe. There is something call academic discipline and peer review which have determined him as a propagandist not a historian. As stated his is currently trying to sell strands of (supposedly) the Fuhrer hairs..pubic or otherwise and you want to worship the man...go ahead..LOL! There are plenty of neo nazis, white supremacists and now Islamic fascists to inspire you.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo I work in academia and I'm very aware of exactly how politicised it is. I've already summed up the rest of your post previously: "Argumentum ad populum and ad hominem." All of your stuff in a nutshell my son.
HarryBallbag 1 year ago
@HarryBallbag: I am glad to see that you are employed..LOL! Just write him a check. He needs your support. I guess you are not a leading entity in academia...LOL! Thanks for your very valuable insight.."ad nauseum"..LMAO!
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo Based on your last comment I should also add "argumentum ad verecundiam". You're obviously working your way through the list. Little boy.
HarryBallbag 1 year ago
@HarryBallbag: Playing with a "dead" language hardly makes you competent or advances your dialogue. David Irving is a fraud. You have the right to worship a fraud but just don't expect intelligent people to follow. His support is overwhelmingly neo nazis, white supremacists & Islamic fascists. That's the company you keep..my little goose stepper. The courts proved he was a fraud. Only an idiot would rely on his site as an impartial source & venue for truth but every goose stepper needs an idol.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo You prove me more right with each fallacious syllable!
HarryBallbag 1 year ago
@HarryBallbag: LMAO! The publishers have it wrong. The courts are wrong. All of academia is wrong. Only you and your goose stepping ilk know the "real" "secret" truth...LOL! The Fuhrer would be so proud.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
the jews always implement some colossal fraud whenever the world is topsy-turvy such as 1945. William Dudley Pelley wrote "The 45 Questions Most Frequently Asked About the Jews" in 1939 which footnoted that 8 million european jews were transported to America during the 1930s. Another 1.2 million european jews were moved to Palestine during the 1930s. When Mikhail Gorbachev unsealed the USSR archives it was revealed that the Soviets were only aware of 76,000 jews who died during WW2.
purleses 1 year ago 3
bunch of kikes :-)
napajedlacek 2 years ago
Another gang of kikeass-licking Anti-Gentiles, engaging in their customary incestuous drivel!!
You deceitful, lying scum!! You might persecute & terrorise the martyrs, but you can't stop the truth from spreading!
You 've got the blood of 10.000.000s of White Europeans, Japanese, Armenians, Africans, Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians, on your hands, and you WILL pay for it, sooner or later!
GreekForTruth1 2 years ago 11
@GreekForTruth1 Admire your fervor! The truth is the truth! Plain as the film in front of your eyes!
MrReymoclif714 11 months ago
Good video. Good discussion.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
In Europe, only jews have the right to discuss the issue on what was true and what was soviet's lies
Zzozze 2 years ago 10
U can have an idea but cant talk about it Fuck you asshole
powermad81 2 years ago
why is the woman always interrupted?
WaffenSScelt 2 years ago
How can Irving deny "The Holocaust", when he says that about 4,000,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis, including 2,000,000 shot. Coren - what an arrogant moron.
seikyoukainoakira 2 years ago
Also your sense of logic is off. Communism is a political movement not religious. It only shows your antisemitism. Using your logic...Nazism is a Christian movement and Mao killed millions under the banner of Buddhism. Get an armband and be more honest.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
What do you tell there? Mao has never been a Bouddhist?
How come all americans believe China to be a bouddhist country? There are mostly confucianists there, other chinese religions, some christians, muslim in the north... Bouddhists are in Tibet, Nepal, Vietnam.... and came from India. It was a peaceful religion, therefore it disapeared from hughe areas (Afghanistan, Pakistan, India...)
Zzozze 2 years ago
@Zzozze Ok, China is mostly Confucians. The point is that Communism is a political movement not a racial or religious vehicle. By the way, I thought the kamikaze suicidal pilots were Buddhists?
AgouraMo 2 years ago
No :) kamikaze pilots were shintoists and emperor Hiro Hito was their Living God.
But I guess I found the answer to my question: it probably comes from the ignorance in geography by main stream TV journalists and hollywood scenarists who mostly rely on clichés. They have build a fully fiction-oriented culture in the US.
Zzozze 2 years ago
@Zzozze: I completely agree with that. I would point out that you would be hard pressed to name a country that does not have a culture devoid of fictional perspectives...not just the U.S. which has become a venting vehicle for a generic malaise felt in many countries that have a great deal of their own internal strife.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
I should ad: they did train you since the last 60 years to always decrypt the reality in terms of good/evil, black/white ,in a strict dualistic way: no nuance, no shades of grey, no complex situations... "eather you're with us or against us"...
...and at the end of the movie the tough but "good" guy has butchered every of the "evil" guys and saved the city (country, world, galaxy,...). These simplification patterns are engraved in the young brains as soon as they can seat in front of a TV set.
Zzozze 2 years ago
@Zzozze: Well, stories can never have complete unbiased details or they would never end. A story is a deliberate technique. However, I do remember growing up with a sense of "fair play" given heroes & their plight even though historic accuracy were often trampled. Most documentaries would bore children to death. I think common themes such as hard work,fair play & family values are worthwhile & positive. "Life is not fair it is just a little more fair than death"(end quote "The Princess Bride").
AgouraMo 2 years ago
@Zzozze Admire your sense of things,but off topic!
MrReymoclif714 11 months ago
@AgouraMo Thank you for providing a touch of black humor to my day and frame of mind listening to some of the BLIND commentary in favor of the idea that the holocaust was an illusion! This is not a good way to present yourself to the world if you expect to be treated like a human being! I know millions of dead "victims" who if they could arise would testify that the Holocaust was real and not an illusion!
MrReymoclif714 11 months ago
Because there were some Jews in Communist movements doesn't make it a 'Jewish movement'. The majority of Jews rejected Communism. How come there were no Jews fleeing to the Other side of the Berlin Wall? I guess anti semites have a hard time answering that one. Also, which synagogue did Castro attend:?
paolosilv 2 years ago
NO SO CALLED RUSSIAN REVOLUTION WAS DONE BY JEWS FOR JEWISH INTERNATIONAL BANKERS!!every shool boy would tell you that !!they teaching that in Czech elementary schools!!
napajedlacek 2 years ago
Tell the Czechs to go back to drinking their pilzner beer.
paolosilv 2 years ago
do u mean Plzen ?dont worry ..we all enjoy our beer :-)but dont forget to read about jewish coup in 1917 .when they raped Russia forever..if Romanov lived ..Russia would be different..so bad ..fo rthem now,same like they raped my country bloody bolshevics for 40 years and still do ,,cause communist bastards still in power in Czech .
napajedlacek 2 years ago
Your sense of history is off. There were people of all nationalities involved in the Russian Revolution. There were many Jews, but if you knew that before the Revolution, Jews were limited only to live in one area of Russia , the Pale of Settlement, White Russia; they had no rights, and were being persecuted by the Old Regime. So Some helped in the Revolution. After the Revolution,many turned away because Lenin tried to ban Judaism. Fanna Kaplan, a Russian Jew, tried to shoot Lenin.
paolosilv 2 years ago
Holocaust deniers are nuts. It's a spit in the face of all the eyewitnesses, the soldiers from different armies that liberated the camps. The US, Britain and Anzac troops, the Russians, French, all liberated the camps. Were they lying? I notice deniers have nothing to say about the servicemen who liberated the camps.
paolosilv 2 years ago
yeah fuck off David Irving !
hackdan 2 years ago
David irving motherfucker.
AnimalFriendSpain 2 years ago
that girl there mayby sexy ,but incredibly stupid !
gas chamber were used for anti lace fumigations..typhys was the real horros but only beacuse of US - Great britain bomber supply rail roads to the Auschwitz and other camps.until the fall of 1944 life was not paradise but good enough in these camps!
they had a so much better food and treatment than christians prisoners in the gulags !!and who was behind the gulags ?? atheistic zionist jews !Lenin,Kaganovich ,Trocky..and half jew Stalin...
napajedlacek 2 years ago
typhus and mulnutrition......and end of 1944 and early of 1945 everyone were diying ..even german SS guards!!...The gas chambers were delousing units to stop the spread of typhus disease!
napajedlacek 2 years ago
How incredibly stupid! Communism is a Jewish movement? You are a first class idiot. I guess using your logic Nazism is a Christian movement and Mao's People's republic of China was a Buddhist movement. You really need to read a book once in awhile.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
yes communism was done by these atheistic jews call zionists.....Karl Marx was not jew ? Trockij and Uljanov ....no jews?
come on ..get a life and dont tell me to read books!
napajedlacek 2 years ago
True
babz76 2 years ago
So I can't tell the truth because it will incite hatred?
PetertheBBD 2 years ago
David irving.I salut you.These guys don`t know historie.
tompondus 2 years ago
WTF Morally Neutral?!?!?! Doesn't the Holocaust incite hatred towards the Germans!!
PetertheBBD 2 years ago
Babcock trying to conflate denying the Holocaust with inciting hate. Ridiculous.
Focoist911 2 years ago
Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six
volumes of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and
de Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this
mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including
the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find
no mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews,
or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war."
Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus
Moodester 2 years ago
It's almost funny listening to the JEWS trying to perpetuate the biggest lie on earth! I can't wait till the US goes broke and stop paying 1/3 of our world aid to Isreal on of the richest nations in the world! If you believe the holocaust was true after watching his videos you are ignorant and stupid. He never once said go beat up some Jews or anything derogatory about the Jews. Keep trying to cover up the lies! Don't beat up any Jews just stop giving them our tax dollars! Reality check....
EXEcutioner1966 2 years ago
Watch all of his videos and find one thing that is not true and respond to me. It was all propoganda made up by the British intelligence agency! The gas chambers were delousing units to stop the spread of disease! Read the signs on the doors to them! The US used Zyclon B to delouse ships way before the war even. They say they were cremating 6000 a day which defies physics, it takes 2 hours per body! You would need 1000 chambers to accomplish that, 500 if you doubled up requiring more time! DUH!
EXEcutioner1966 2 years ago
Q: How many Holocaust Deniers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. The Deniers never accomplish anything positive. Still, a
thousand of them would line up to claim the Jews stole the bulb.
TerrySleeper 2 years ago
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Quoting Mr. Justice Gray in his libel verdict,"Irving has for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence;...for the same reasons he has portrayed Hitler in an unwarrantedly favourable light, principally in relation to his attitude towards and responsibility for the treatment of the Jews;...he is an active Holocaust denier; ...he is anti-Semitic and racist, and...he associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism."
mc0558 2 years ago
coren is a jew bitch! listin enyone who is well paid and well feed will not risk theit jobs over something that happened 70 years ago. i would but iam not in a position yet. thare is so mutch evidence against CERTAIN aspects of the holocost that arnt true.
ufcsucks47 2 years ago
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The best response to this discredited Holocaust-denier and phony historian is given in the following book: Richard J. Evans, "Telling Lies about Hitler" (London, 2002) - it includes extracts from a damning 350-page summing-up of DI by a British High Court judge.
Mr. Justice Gray outlined DI's omissions, distortions and suppression of relevant evidential historical material, concluding that DI "manipulates the historical record in order to make it conform with his political beliefs."
QED.
TerrySleeper 3 years ago
This is jewish democracy, you can talk about everithing, except of those things I don't allow you.
andreasue 3 years ago
How come the "Free of Speach" law is applied only when someone says bad things about Mohammed, and Muslims get angry about it?
falkhalili 3 years ago
i don't what the irving dude says, but the proof that he's prosecuted for speaking his mind on these matters is the definitive proof, that the jewish claw still holds large parts of this world... bad bad bad
faggothater999 3 years ago
In 1985 while under oath during the Ernst Zundel trial in Toronto the world's foremost so-called "Holocaust" expert Raul Hilberg was forced to admit that he had never visited a single one of the German camps before writing his 1961 book, "Destruction of the European Jews". And Hilberg only ever visited 1 camp (Treblinka) for a 1 day ceremony between 1961 and 1985. And this was the main jew that all the other jews always named as the person who knew the entire true story. Unbelievable liars.
SelfDampening 3 years ago
show me on anti-semite statement hes made douche
trexx32 3 years ago
his publisher was a jew. so how is he an anti-semite? and why are people antisemitic???? because jews practive judaism? i dont think that is the reason.
keltik31 3 years ago
fuck the police
Wulf88legion 3 years ago
yeah it depends on the country...
there is a kkk...America has freedom of speech and they are allowed to protest in a peaceable assembly....
they have their opinion...Thank God for America!!! PEACEABLE ASSEMBLY and to be free Thinkers!!!
IntelligentCreature 3 years ago
well said.
keltik31 3 years ago
first it was 6 mil.
then became 4 mil.
now is 1.1 mil.
and is not questionable??
karpoezi 3 years ago
Its still 6 million.
hydraa 3 years ago
its still six? when they reduced the number at auschwits from 4.1 mil to 1.1, what happened to the difference??????
keltik31 3 years ago
Ah, I thought thy were talking about everyone. Not only Auschwits.
hydraa 3 years ago
keltik31- it's jewish math. They have the six million number going all the way back to the Talmud. There's an old newspaper article from WW1 (one) that mentions 6 million killed in that war.
You had a push to create Israel at that time, along with millions of Holocaust pensions, which are still be paid. The 6 million is a religous number, Holocaustianity is a religion.
zunk11 3 years ago
I feel really, really sorry for Canadians, as they are good people, like us Scots, but they are under the heavy boot of political correctness, more so than even us Brits here. For the life of me I can't fully figure out why. Here, it is Marxists/Zionists/Communists (pick any or all) that tells us what we can say, but in Canada? surely not yet.
MINGCHINGBOY 3 years ago
I like the Canadien response that it is OK to have an idea as long you do not speak it aloud. Real canadian free speech!
clecsoft 3 years ago
What a sorry bunch - the presenter was the only one of those people that respect. Those people had NO idea about the topic they were discussing - its not about "beating up jews", its about TELLING THE TRUTH! So you cant read Mein Kampf now? What a joke.
andy7666 3 years ago
What a ridiculous "debate". Nothing but ad hominum attacks against anyone who questions the holocaust. Absurd.
Every event in history has dissenters, and the holocaust should be no exception.
jimj122680 3 years ago
dude u r soo right..its suddenly a crime to ask or seek the real holocaust number...ridiculous shit! where the fuck is freedom of speech here..i think mostly people can say the truth only when they are drunk..remember Mel?
999vercetty 3 years ago
Semites= Arabs not jews from europe. the real anti semites are those who are Zionists and the mass illegal state Israeli population
NO WAY are these Jews semites... anoher Hijacking of the word semites
abuyusra123 3 years ago
why are jews becomming so hysterical about the research and truth about holocaust?..david is not anybody from the street..he is an historian..after his arrest we can see the double standards of the west..freedom of speech?? just bullshit all that...i have to through up...
999vercetty 3 years ago
jews protect the "6 million" number with their life because a lot depends on this number such as the creation of "Israel". jews also milk the public for dollars (guilt dollars) as they use this number. that's why jews can never let anyone debate this number, because the jew scam would come crashing down.
jimj122680 3 years ago 2
irving es arrestado,como galileo,por la nueva inquisicion que es el sionismo,que asesina a niños y mujeres palestinos indefensos
nicoj1889 3 years ago 2
There were around 240,000 campers in total who died from starvation and disease but that's it and no gassings. There isn't a single photo or evidence of any kind that even one person was ever gassed by the Germans. When Germany lost WWII their propganda machine halted while the jew-controlled Allied countries all turned their propaganda machines up a notch or two which is how you end up with fantastic stories such as gas chambers, lamp shades and soap factories. It's all a load of crapola.
EnjoyTheBuffet 3 years ago
You'll never see a semite laying bricks on a builing site or digging a hole ,or roofing your house,this concept is alien to a semite and only aims to maximise ones profits at the easiest way possible.
akulaclass17 3 years ago
Google:
"Merry Christmas, and OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!"
It's about a very strange and sinister (in my opinion) group that wields remarkable influence in America and elsewhere.
patriotagainstempire 3 years ago
this is gold , do they actualy have any argument ?. how meany times do they say "denie the holocaust"
bastardtubeuser 4 years ago
Dont these people understand that all they are debating is the how far peoples thoughts and opinions can be sheperded or curtailed. Amazing how they suddenly assume a dennier of the Holocaust is suddenly a member of the National Socialist Movement. Does this 2 + 2 = 8 round table of idiots strike anyone else as control freaks?
MarbleSphere 4 years ago 4
It appears they are having a Jewish panic attack.
hanassi 4 years ago
how stupid...they arrested him for denying the holocaust...why an arrest...what happened to freedom of speech...i may not agree but thats ridiculous...
photofu 4 years ago
he was NOT arrested for denying the holocaust! He was arrested for a Stalin-Era Law that forbids "REACTIVATING THE NAZI PARTY." And of course the injustice is obvious because, on the one hand, he did NOT reactivate the party (!), but he DID go to jail!!!
ssalemi 3 years ago
I wonder if the words they are using in this debate to characterize people, who do not believe in holocaust, would be tolerated if used against jews. These people are a group of extreme racists!
rmir2 4 years ago
Why did the comments section become a list of anti-semetic rants? For all of you out there who are interested in this debate, check out "Denying History" which explains the origins or the Holocaust denier movement in a scientific manner. Real history is not driven by hate and bigotry, its driven by facts. And David Irving was convicted for his crime and is now bancrupt.
Ophelia193 4 years ago
yeah you're so right. And man didn't really land on the moon, it was all faked like the evidence for evolution/dinosaurs. Actually I think the world is flat. Can you prove otherwise?
aarashsaleh 4 years ago
I cant prove there were 6 million "jews" that died. thats why they are called holocaust SUVIVORS!!!
hanassi 4 years ago 2
America had nothing to do with the war, and up untill they entered, were on the side of german, as you can see from the news papers from that time. once zionists decided otherwise tho, like samuel untermyer, they switched up and got america into it, thuis defeating germany, and the balfour declaration was brought up showing that the zionists get palestine as their home land, for their part of the deal. do some research, dont believe your text books.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
btw, the nazis documents state no where about killing all jews. get jews out of germany, yes. as germany felt betrayed when they found out it was the zionists who railroaded america into the war on the side of britian, when germany had all but beaten britian and offered them peace, to go back as if none of this had happened. britian was fucked, cuz of the u boats.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
thanks you. and we can just leave it at that. believe the propoganda, or go research it for yourself, and you shall see, none of it adds up.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
to believe the germans killed 6 million jews in gasovens is as intelligent to believe lance armstrong won 7 tour de france in a row without doping.
lille25 4 years ago
with no proof whatsoever, other than some war time photos of skinny jewish ppl in concentration camps.
silly ppl, do some research, look into history, dont take the word you were always told your whole life from the schooling institutions. use your own head.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
"some war time photos of skinny jewish ppl in concentration camps."?! - R U for real?! What about the mountains of corpses and mass graves in many of the different camps you can watch here on YouTube?! What about the mountains of clothes, shoes, glasses and other belongings shown in those same films when the camps were first liberated? What the about the Nazis' own oral and written documents that testify to the 'Final Solution'?! What about the genesis of it all, Kristallnacht?!
SabuPtolemy 4 years ago
what about the soap factories? o, proven false. what about german documents talking about exterminating all the jews?, o, doesn't exist. and what about all the millions of jews who pured into america, canada, israel, australia and so on... let me guess, all ghost?.
lille25 4 years ago
eaxactly they are all SURVIVORS!!
hanassi 4 years ago
you can find mountains of shoes and hair at payless shoe store and the barber shop (respectively).
hanassi 4 years ago
Yes, please take me to the Payless store where they have 10's of thousands of pairs of used shoes and a barbershop stacked to the ceiling with bags of shorn human hair. Nazi dumbfuck.
SabuPtolemy 4 years ago
"Nazi dumbfuck" proves the whole sordid mess...good comment....keep it up...we then can see how baseless your auguments regaring the varacity of your assertions that shoes and hair is proof of "6 million dead people" all I see is HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS
hanassi 4 years ago 3
None of the camps had 10s of thousands of shoes. If you look at the video the soviets took at Aushwitz, it wasn't up to the ceiling, it was about 3/4 from the ground.
appleguy77 3 years ago
And in the display at Auschwitz at has a false back to make it look bigger(!). I never understand that argument of exterminationists "Look at the shoes! The glasses!" Yes, they were taken off the prisoners, all clothes were de-loused and sterilised to stop the spread of disease and either recycled, kept in storage or destroyed. This and the haircuts were not done to "humiliate" anyone, rather to save lives.
andy7666 3 years ago
I posted my comment 3 months ago.
That evidence is used for dramatic effect. People assume that the people who owned them must be dead, when in actuality, they were just shoeless.
They were looking for a scapegoat, a reason why 46 million people had to die in the war. Pesticides could be found on any US Navy boat for delousing, and there were signs in the camps warning the 5mph winds spreading typhus. But when they came upon the pesticides in Auschwitz, they must have been used to kill people.
appleguy77 3 years ago
zionism was all about getting jews out of europe, and into palestine. this plan was in the works since the 1800's. FACT. they also tried to say 6 million jews were being killed as early as the 1920's, this article was put in the readers digest i believe. but no one bought it, cuz the numbers are so outlandish. but put that story along with the war time propoganda, and voila, everyone bought it.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
history is written by the winners. dont forget that. and dont forget the jewish bankers ie the Warburgs financed hitler and the nazis. this is a FACT. and this is why when hitler was supposedly trying to kill all jews in the world, he never rounded up any of the banking elite jewish families in germany, no they were allowed business as usual. cuz they were funding the whole damn thing. this was a Zionist operation, with nazis as the frontmen.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
these ppl are talking dribble
benedict303 4 years ago
LOL I love the claims of denier dickweeds. The Holocaust is one of the most documented events in the twentieth century. No one has a problem with people investigating the holocaust. It's just that the sheer weight of evidence is so strong, anyone who emerges from their investigation claiming that they believe the holocaust never happened is either an intellectual retard or a willfully blind Jew hating Nazi, simple as that. Seriously that's whay all you denier tossers are, intellectual retards.
kmank2 4 years ago
the holocaust - the gas ovens - is not documented at all little girl. it's more or less a propaganda war tale. i love this elie wiesel line:
'the secret of the auschwitz truth lies in silence´.
silence?. that's some hell of a good evidence.
lille25 4 years ago
you havent a clue as to what you are talking about. no one is saying this event didnt happen, only that it didnt happen the way we were told. remember this was war time, nothing but propoganda is what we saw. and still see.
yes ppl do have a serious problem with any1 researching it. this is why it's illegal in close to 10 countries, canada being one of them, to even research it. you can be thrown in jail. theyre scare ppl will find out THE TRUTH.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
otherwise there would be no problem with ppl wanting to research this event. its history. any other event illegal to look into in history? no. there is not. the only thing more ludicrous than actually deeming a historical event illegal to look into, is ppl who actualy stick up for this madness.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
ww w. myvideo . de/watch/1513762
Foetzlein 4 years ago
fucking idiots. lots of bad things happened to lots of groups of ppl through out history. EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, AND ALSO TO RESEARCH HISTORY!!! this is complete bullshit. why should the jews worry if ppl are investigating such a horrible thing that happened to them? shouldnt they welcome ppl looking at this and seeing what happened during the world war? what are they afriad ppl will find out?!
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
I agree Many other groups eg: gypsies and christian groups were killed but practically nothing is said about this
brakers001 4 years ago
Babcock
Johnny12b 4 years ago
And Hitler SURELY could not order such a thing never ever, because he particularly forbidden such behavior,which would transform the jews in martyrs.Who profits for this? Make your choice.
AlexisMontan 4 years ago
He has been prosecuted for spread an idea. My goodness. Why are not prosecuted the ones that keep spreading the lies of the Holocaust It has been proven false,many times.
AlexisMontan 4 years ago
Your English is very bad, which doesn't surprise me given your clear lack of a decent education. 'The holocaust has been proven false many times?' When and by who? Some crazy, anti-establishment eccentric who wanted 15 mins of fame? You are a very silly person.
jbarks10 4 years ago
the fact is that no one ever has proven the holocaust with real evidence - despite all the captured german documents no one has ever found one single word about it. it's wartime propaganda that went out of control.
some jews perished under wartime conditions, so did a lot of germans, russians, poles and so on. so no, there wasn't a 'holocaust', is that so hard to understand?. eh?.
lille25 4 years ago
you should go there , maybe Mauthausen or Ausschwitz or ask people who now may be 69 and have numbers tattoed into their arms and really terryble memories and tha war propaganda that was done THEn... shows what they did to sanctify their doings... really its worth the journey
tschuuuly 4 years ago
you are for believing such a blatant lie of a story. the holocaust never made sense. and thats why the zionist organizations such as the ADL would like to jail ppl for looking into a historical event. its complete insanity for anyone to think its ok and normal for a group to say yes we were persecuted and killed off in a holocaust, it was horrible, but dont look into it. if you do you will go to jail. what are they hiding!? wake up for christ sake.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
Goto David Irving visits Aushwitz to find proof of gas cmabers as discovered by DI...
5:07 "This is the site of the first gas chamber."
See? The revisionists plant the trees - and in time they cut them down themselves.
I mean talk about worthless. DI placing flowers at Auschwitz!
But thank you for locating the A gas chamber, we knew you'd come round in the end.
napoleonbone 4 years ago
there is no evidence for a jewish genocide. i mean, it's hard even for them to prove something that never happened. it's impossible to gas 6 000 000 in closed spaces and then go straight in on them and throw them into the fire. wouldn't it be more practical just to shoot them?. eh?. jews are the attackers, not the attacked.
lille25 4 years ago
right, its also impossible to let 6 Mio People just vanish - but maybe you believe in Harry Potter and 6 Mio "Vanishing Cloaks" buhuhuuuhuhuuuu
Spargelpfluecker 4 years ago
Right, the Jews are the attackers. They killed 6 million Germans, not the other way around! - Were you dropped on your head out of the birth canal?! Killing 6 mio.(who says they were all gassed?!) over the course of several years spread out over dozens and dozens of (mostly) work and extermination camps really is not that hard to do. The Nazis and their collaborators succeeded at it.
SabuPtolemy 4 years ago
o, i must repeat it to one more?. as the romanian 'holocaustprofessor' and former member of the zionist terror organisation irgun, elie 'the weasel' wiesel, stated:
'the secret of auschwitz truth lies in silence'.
silence?. that's not great evidence. not at all baby.
lille25 4 years ago
This program atacks freedom of thinking and debating. They evilise a scientist without giving any evidence. This is a refusable as one can have.
Reasonable99pct 4 years ago
Saying that an actual MASS MURDER never took place is malicious and irresponsible. Democracy is about freedom...and responsibility...that's what defamation laws etc are there for (in relation to 'freedon of speech'). Anti-semitic laws were created to protect jews from those who wish to do them harm...e.g revisionists, nazis etc.
polpiv4tifi 4 years ago
Who are these nitwits to question David Irving? He is a genius in his field. They're pretentious ignoramuses who just conform to popular politics. This idea that having an alternate opinion on something implies you are inciting violence is totally fallacious and silly. The only reason you need such draconian laws to protect a belief is not because it's true, but because it isn't true and you don't want anyone to find out.
btd2006 4 years ago
Wrong! Laws against Holocaust denying in Germany and Austria are not in place to suppress the 'truth' as you twisted neo-Nazis see it - they are there because denying a FACT involving the mass murder of millions of people is an insult to the victims and humanity as a whole. Freedom of Speech is not unlimited nor should it be. You can't yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theater either.
SabuPtolemy 4 years ago
you are completely retarded for saying that.
thatstheguy07 4 years ago
these guys r narrowminded and hypocritical when it comes to being ridiculous. they don't even give a chance how holocaust 'denial' can be interpreted!
segits 4 years ago
Irvings a hack. First he says there were no gas chambers and millions of Jews werent killed. Then right before his sentence hearing he claims that he changed his views and that there were gas chambers and "the nazis did murder millions of Jews".
JusticeFish82 4 years ago
No, he didn't say that. Under tremendous pressure and trying to save himself, he conceded that it was "possible" that it happened, not that it did. He was just being fair.
btd2006 4 years ago
"I've changed my views. I spoke then about Auschwitz and gas chambers based on my knowledge at the time, but by 1991 when I came across the Eichmann papers, I wasn't saying that any more and I wouldn't say that now. The Nazis did murder millions of Jews. ..I made a mistake by saying there were no gas chambers, I am absolutely without doubt that the Holocaust took place. I apologise to those few I might have offended though I remain very proud of the 30 books I have written."
JusticeFish82 4 years ago
Thats what he "publicly" stated at his hearing. Quite the hero you have in that lying flip flopping coward.
JusticeFish82 4 years ago
If you were in court, and may spend the rest of your life in jail or a considerable part of it, being an older man, and all you had to do was state a politically correct sentence to save yourself, wouldn't you do it? I don't blame him. I don't respect him for going back on his past statements, but I understand the situation he was in. He is still a brilliant historian and I respect his work, why do you think they hired him in the first place.
btd2006 4 years ago
If Irving's "ideas" are so esay to counter and defeat, why not welcome the chance to defeat them?
ekimshield 4 years ago
"you can have [an idea], but you can't talk about it".
Horse Manure!!!
I am so glad that I live in America.
BrandenburgConcerti 4 years ago
irving victim of "democracy"
and this is the freedom of speech??
white resistance
pogrom3 4 years ago
QUESTION TO APARTHIST, WHITE SUPREMACIST, SKINHEAD SCAMMAN COREN: If the German Nazi, Genocide Rouge State, decides anyone who puts anything on YOU TUBE will get 5 years jail, as in case of Zundel, which you approve, and prohibit YOU TUBE, as many want, would you applaud it? If yes is your answer, if you aren't a crackpot-hypocrite-why are you then on YOU TUBE?
Worldscams 4 years ago
jEWZ ARE GODS CHOSEN RACE !!! DIDN'T U GOYIM(cattle)KNOW THAT ? what an UGLY BITCH on the panel there she did not kiss jEW azz enough.jEWZ HAVE POLITICAL POWER GIVEN TO THEM BY GOD.THANK GOD U CAN DIE IN ARABIA FOR GODS CHOSEN RACE and perhaps you'll go to heaven for GOYIM.
MonkeyMagic88 4 years ago
LOL 'lille25' I love reading hate comments from ignorant neo-nazi fags like yourself, it makes for good entertainment LOL. The way you rant on about how much you hate the Jews, each sentence comprised of misspelled words of which a 5 year old could properly spell, it makes me laugh :) Here's an idea genius, how about you come back when you've learned how to spell at the level of an infant, then maybe you'll be taken seriously...probably not. HOMO.
kmank2 4 years ago
i don't hate jews more than i love whites. but it's hard not to be bitter and depressed when all i can see is idiots. or, as director ingmar bergman said - i'm to intelligent to be glad, so i'm sad.
lille25 4 years ago
is this guy a jew?
lordweaselfreak 4 years ago
...lille25, do us all a favour, get a small pet so you have something to love that will heal that fractured psyche of yours. After thats solved, crack open a book you didnt get at the Nazi boutique. Oh, and then fucking read it you dunce.
nijaexhile3 5 years ago
the jews - as lazar moiseivich kaganovich, berman,
jagoda and so on - runned massextermination in communist soviet union killing millions. so what's the deal?. It's sad the 'Holocaust' didn't happen, the jews would have been worth it.
lille25 4 years ago
Yah and as you respond dummies,(the scumbags talking about "evil jews") realise Im not a Jew. German/English right here, so eat it. And to the dude denigrating 'intellectuals' aka Canadians, I guess this time around Persians are your buddies for the sake of argument, then monday morning its back to hating all dark skinned mud people.
nijaexhile3 5 years ago
BUT... I gotta maintain that, first you must protect free speech because silencing ANYONE is a slippery slope. And secondly, you gotta let the roaches enter the light so you can more easily see them to squash them. Infact I think there should be tv debates between these morons and someone with facts. So we can grab some popcorn, and watch as they're crushed by the weight of their own nonsense.
nijaexhile3 5 years ago
Freedom of speech should be applicable ALWAYS...The fact is, those that look to "debunk" the numbers are usually looking for more ways to hate jews. I mean frankly, who gives a fuck how many exactly died in gas chambers. Only 3 million ooooooh. Well then! maybe hitler wasnt so bad! Any one who denies that jews where persecuted and suffered an enourmous injustice(whatever form it came in) is a real challenged individual...
nijaexhile3 5 years ago
the jews have a thing called purim celebrating the genocide of 70 000 persians. christians don't celebrate genocides at christmas.
lille25 5 years ago
The irony is that David Irving spent 13.5 months in prison for denying the holocaust whilst real Nazi war criminals largely got off scot free in Austria. As far as I am aware Austria did not give out a single life sentence despite the fact that per capita it supplied more of the death camp personnel that any other region of Germany. Franz Stangl, commandant of Treblinka, felt so secure in his Austrian citizenship that he remained registered with the consulate until his arrest in 1969.
alanheath 5 years ago
Good point. Hello from the USA. You have an interesting profile. I to like Bond films. For your Eyes Only is a great song as well as all Time High-Octopussy. Those beginnings with the naked girls doing flips is the best. Welcome
phausser 5 years ago
what canadian 'intellectual' pussies. david irving is great. he has the balls and the facts to oppose the real haters.
galileo galilei was prosecuted when he stated that this globe is a globe and not the center of the universe...
lille25 5 years ago
You are an unbelievable idiot for even trying to equate Galilei with a Nazi sympathizing crackpot historian like David Irving. Irving has never presented even one piece of solid evidence that supports his theories; if anything he actually seems to acknowledge a few things now that he previously denied w/ regard to the Holocaust.
SabuPtolemy 4 years ago
i dont know if that laws are good or not. but nobody should be arrested because of his/her opinion. We had that laws (exactly 60 years ago). So is this law good?
vittel83 5 years ago
i am from austria, and this is a very interesting discussion about our laws. Earving was found and arrested by police 3 miles from my home during a driver control. It is forbidden in our country to deny the holocoust and the concentration camps. A few austrian politicans also denied these things happening 60 years ago - and they also got problems with our justice.
vittel83 5 years ago