He is a salon player -by the time he reaches the 8th. bar he has fiddle plays
the work-he has no concept of what a mazurka is about .Gingold may have been a wonderful person , but the subject is his playing this work and making it
@skipperdoll13 I can also tell where Joshua Bell got his "sound" from. :) Josef Gingold was one heck of a teacher...he's up in Heaven somewhere smiling.
George Szell chose Josefs Gingold to be concertmaster of the Cleveland Orchestra shortly after being named musical director of the Cleveland Orchestra. Gingold helped Szell a great deal in leading the orchestra to its pre-eminence. I heard him play many times and wished he had stayed a while longer.
Knew him at Indiana, like so many others. What a man... they don't make them like that anymore. He had that "Old World" sound, and gentlemanly personality. He played Kreisler magnificently.... loved to tell stories (Auer, etc.). He is missed by everyone who knew him.
I had the great honor of studying with Josef Gingold, who was a wonderful human-being, a grreeat violinist, and an amazing teacher. He is a legend- and remains in my memory forever- his corrections are often repeated in my inner ear as I play. If I get to Heaven, I am sure he will be playing there too!
Hahah, so many Gingold students here. I'm from the Galamian lineage :P, but it's still a rare delight. My first time to hear this piece, and first time to hear Gingold playing. Thanks for sharing!
Josef Gingold taught for decades at Indiana, until his death in 1995. As a result, sores of young musicians got to experience a taste of the Golden Age through his rich and stylish playing. He used to tell very amusing stories about lessons with his fearsome teacher Leopold Auer. He was warm, gracious, and loved by all who knew him. Thanks for this post!
Other than Christian Ferras I love Gingold's vibrato. The right amount of 'seasoning'. I now know where Joshua Bell got his light airy etherial sound. A fine example that the Russian School can weave sound into delicate lace and not just an agressive aproach.
Thanks for posting - although its only audio....Gingold represents in a way a lost century of violinplaying - I was lucky to have had two lessons with him playing duo with a student of him - way back in 1989 in Bloomington. When you entered his room, you were thrown back like 80 years ago, all these originally signed photographs: Kreisler, Ysaye,Busch a.s.o. He knew them all...great man, great musicician, great teacher....
Why do you say that? I find it hard to believe that a man extoled for his incredible musicianship (e.g. first chair 2nd violins in Toscanini's orchestra in 1948) fails to play with musical taste.
aimson - it's not worth replying to these kinds of stupid attacks. They merely reveal the attacker's ignorance. Thank you so much for posting this wonderful clip. I had never heard Gingold actually play. What a wonderful musician. And what a rich - and now lost - culture expresses itself through his playing!
@aimson Being a verbal critic is the easiest thing in the world---next to breathing---unless one can DO something better---as Gingold did, with grace and "heart," so singularly, humbly, and beautifully. (And that's why the internet is becoming such a nasty medium.)
@orjus you must think kreisler also has no musical taste playing this piece. then you know nothing of musical taste, sir. sorry to be the one to tell you
Thanks ever so much for posting - those who have the Biddulph 2-disc set of the Primrose Quartet will recognise his glowing tone as 2nd violin, well-matched to Oscar Shumsky's, when they all played in Toscanini's NBC Symphony.
Glad you enjoyed it! Just to add on to your comment, Gingold was chosen to be principle 2nd violinist in the Toscanini orchestra because of his outstanding musicianship. He might not have had great technique but as a musician I believe he was one of the finest in the world.
you know, i find it funny that you compare student to teacher. yea of course their technique rubs off, but my teacher was a student of Ivan Galamian. well whatever, beatiful piece
Why shouldn't you compare a student to teacher? The reason for having a teacher in the first place is to learn how to play the violin and if you aren't influenced by your teacher, you're not really learning, are you? Music is more than just technique and as such, comparing student to teacher goes far beyond just the "rubbing off" of technique.
my teacher in HS was also a pupil of Gingold's. He was also Joshua Bell's teacher. I hear Gingold in Bell... my former teacher (who is no longer with us, unfortunately) and sometimes in myself... mostly in use of vibrato and artistic style...
makes me happy to carry on parts of his legacy... :)
Yeah, I definitely hear Gingold in early Bell too, which is one reason I really like his first recordings. After Gingold passed away in 1995, Bell's playing started going downhill and I can barely stand to listen to him these days. It is a shame that Gingold's legacy will NOT live on in Joshua Bell.
Could you tell me which first recordings of Bell you're referring to? I'm a fan of Gingold but not of Bell, and I have the opposite experience: it wasn't until Bell's latest CD ("Romance", I think) that I hear some of the things I like about Gingold.
I think you are mixing the two musicians too much. Gingold is a phenomenon on his own (without Bell) but much of Gingold's influence can be seen in Bell, especially his earlier work before Gingold died. Check out "Presenting Joshua Bell" (1990) and "The Kreisler Album" (1996) on amazon.
thank you for posting this ... what a great man and musician! I was privileged to hear him many times when he was concertmaster of the Cleveland Orchestra under Szell. I was at his final concert in 1960 with the orchestra and the ovation for him from orchestra and audience seems to last an eternity.
Your welcome. Coincidentally, Gingold was also my teacher's teacher. I always sort of hoped that a part of Gingold would trickle down to me. not likely... :(
my teacher is a student of Josef Gingold :) i wish i knew him
he seems like such a sweet man
Omanda93 1 year ago
He is a salon player -by the time he reaches the 8th. bar he has fiddle plays
the work-he has no concept of what a mazurka is about .Gingold may have been a wonderful person , but the subject is his playing this work and making it
a second rate violin work of sorts .
dziady1 1 year ago
This is so nice. It's that old way of playing.
juliarebekka 1 year ago
Wow, he's amazing. :)
skipperdoll13 1 year ago
@skipperdoll13 I can also tell where Joshua Bell got his "sound" from. :) Josef Gingold was one heck of a teacher...he's up in Heaven somewhere smiling.
skipperdoll13 1 year ago
George Szell chose Josefs Gingold to be concertmaster of the Cleveland Orchestra shortly after being named musical director of the Cleveland Orchestra. Gingold helped Szell a great deal in leading the orchestra to its pre-eminence. I heard him play many times and wished he had stayed a while longer.
AllanKohrman 2 years ago
op 67 nr.4
Rephrat 2 years ago
Knew him at Indiana, like so many others. What a man... they don't make them like that anymore. He had that "Old World" sound, and gentlemanly personality. He played Kreisler magnificently.... loved to tell stories (Auer, etc.). He is missed by everyone who knew him.
camaysar222 2 years ago
I had the great honor of studying with Josef Gingold, who was a wonderful human-being, a grreeat violinist, and an amazing teacher. He is a legend- and remains in my memory forever- his corrections are often repeated in my inner ear as I play. If I get to Heaven, I am sure he will be playing there too!
rampjolp 2 years ago 6
Наистина добре свири,а и вие имате прекрасни записи!Бих искал да чуя и вас!!!Имате добър учител и добър вкус!!!!
mnjam61 2 years ago
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Au violon c'est d'un mauvais goût total.
Pauvre Chopin! pourquoi pas la clarinette?
antoinezygfryd 2 years ago
beautiful
shiadani 2 years ago
my best friend is the great-nephew
of this guy
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samessai 3 years ago
thats my teacher grandfather n im very proud to be taught by her
ericgable 3 years ago
Just to make a correction here: his name is Josef Gingold, not Joseph Gingold.
liquidsolidarity 3 years ago
I had the privilege of studying with him. He will forever remain alive in all of us who were, and still are eternally touched by his life.
liquidsolidarity 3 years ago
Hahah, so many Gingold students here. I'm from the Galamian lineage :P, but it's still a rare delight. My first time to hear this piece, and first time to hear Gingold playing. Thanks for sharing!
cromulentinnoc3nce 3 years ago
i am from the Ilona Feher lineage. and like i said i wish i studied with him TOO...
Rephrat 3 years ago
For Gingold students it's Ysaye lineage :)
violinist1 2 years ago
i wish i studied with him. he is a GIANT !!!!
may he rest in peace.
Rephrat 3 years ago
He was my former violin teacher's teacher too :)
Jon Beiler of the Philly Orch, studied with him at Indiana
cchamp27 3 years ago
"Scores" of young musicians, of course!
camaysar222 3 years ago
Josef Gingold taught for decades at Indiana, until his death in 1995. As a result, sores of young musicians got to experience a taste of the Golden Age through his rich and stylish playing. He used to tell very amusing stories about lessons with his fearsome teacher Leopold Auer. He was warm, gracious, and loved by all who knew him. Thanks for this post!
camaysar222 3 years ago 5
Damn all you guys! When you become teachers, your students will say he's their teacher's teacher's teacher ;O.
mtysar 3 years ago
Other than Christian Ferras I love Gingold's vibrato. The right amount of 'seasoning'. I now know where Joshua Bell got his light airy etherial sound. A fine example that the Russian School can weave sound into delicate lace and not just an agressive aproach.
fiddlestyx3006 3 years ago
butter baby!
jascha1978 3 years ago
OMG!!! He was my teacher's teacher too!! how weird!
kelnoreem 3 years ago
He is my teacher's teacher too!!!!!!!
eliebhaber 4 years ago
what a coinkidink this was my teachers teacher teacher
nuckles007 4 years ago
This is my teacher's teacher too. Who is your teacher?
DarkZodiark 4 years ago
this is my teacher's teacher too
meganwatts2 4 years ago
Thanks for posting - although its only audio....Gingold represents in a way a lost century of violinplaying - I was lucky to have had two lessons with him playing duo with a student of him - way back in 1989 in Bloomington. When you entered his room, you were thrown back like 80 years ago, all these originally signed photographs: Kreisler, Ysaye,Busch a.s.o. He knew them all...great man, great musicician, great teacher....
cellokratzer 4 years ago
What Élan, timing and elegance! We all miss our dear Mr. Gingold.
pashovsky 4 years ago
To play the notes of this piece is simple.
To play like Gingold and to UNDERSTAND what means to produce a sound like that,a good violinist needs an entire life!
Careful about your comments!
clasicgypsy 4 years ago
He may have been a good teacher ,but this transcription
is pointless if not lack of musical taste ...
orjus 4 years ago
Why do you say that? I find it hard to believe that a man extoled for his incredible musicianship (e.g. first chair 2nd violins in Toscanini's orchestra in 1948) fails to play with musical taste.
aimson 4 years ago
aimson-Being in Toscanini's orchestra has nothing to do
with incredible musicianship -believe me,just the ability saw away withou making too many obvious mistakes
and to use the NBC job as a jump off to better things .
The orchestra had many good fiddle players .........
orjus 4 years ago
aimson - it's not worth replying to these kinds of stupid attacks. They merely reveal the attacker's ignorance. Thank you so much for posting this wonderful clip. I had never heard Gingold actually play. What a wonderful musician. And what a rich - and now lost - culture expresses itself through his playing!
123mortimer 4 years ago 2
@aimson Being a verbal critic is the easiest thing in the world---next to breathing---unless one can DO something better---as Gingold did, with grace and "heart," so singularly, humbly, and beautifully. (And that's why the internet is becoming such a nasty medium.)
idiotnumber8 1 year ago
@aimson Being a verbal critic is next thing to breathing in ease. DOING better or anything comparable is another matter. (And so goes the internet.)
Gingold was a great violinist, with profound humility and heart.
idiotnumber8 1 year ago
@orjus you have no idea what you are talking about. with all due respect.
gnatural 1 year ago
@orjus you must think kreisler also has no musical taste playing this piece. then you know nothing of musical taste, sir. sorry to be the one to tell you
dkurgano 1 year ago
Hmmm do not hear Joshua Bell at all in his playing.
boobopbadoop 4 years ago
Thanks ever so much for posting - those who have the Biddulph 2-disc set of the Primrose Quartet will recognise his glowing tone as 2nd violin, well-matched to Oscar Shumsky's, when they all played in Toscanini's NBC Symphony.
And the orchestral excerpts!
jaschenski 4 years ago
Glad you enjoyed it! Just to add on to your comment, Gingold was chosen to be principle 2nd violinist in the Toscanini orchestra because of his outstanding musicianship. He might not have had great technique but as a musician I believe he was one of the finest in the world.
aimson 4 years ago
he was the man. i was blessed to have met him in my young years....i'll never forget him or his genius
greatizzgood 4 years ago
you know, i find it funny that you compare student to teacher. yea of course their technique rubs off, but my teacher was a student of Ivan Galamian. well whatever, beatiful piece
Silkmeister 4 years ago
Why shouldn't you compare a student to teacher? The reason for having a teacher in the first place is to learn how to play the violin and if you aren't influenced by your teacher, you're not really learning, are you? Music is more than just technique and as such, comparing student to teacher goes far beyond just the "rubbing off" of technique.
aimson 4 years ago
fantastic
lolmanerik 4 years ago
my teacher in HS was also a pupil of Gingold's. He was also Joshua Bell's teacher. I hear Gingold in Bell... my former teacher (who is no longer with us, unfortunately) and sometimes in myself... mostly in use of vibrato and artistic style...
makes me happy to carry on parts of his legacy... :)
InsectQueen 4 years ago
Yeah, I definitely hear Gingold in early Bell too, which is one reason I really like his first recordings. After Gingold passed away in 1995, Bell's playing started going downhill and I can barely stand to listen to him these days. It is a shame that Gingold's legacy will NOT live on in Joshua Bell.
aimson 4 years ago
Could you tell me which first recordings of Bell you're referring to? I'm a fan of Gingold but not of Bell, and I have the opposite experience: it wasn't until Bell's latest CD ("Romance", I think) that I hear some of the things I like about Gingold.
msiu 4 years ago
I think you are mixing the two musicians too much. Gingold is a phenomenon on his own (without Bell) but much of Gingold's influence can be seen in Bell, especially his earlier work before Gingold died. Check out "Presenting Joshua Bell" (1990) and "The Kreisler Album" (1996) on amazon.
aimson 4 years ago
thank you for posting this ... what a great man and musician! I was privileged to hear him many times when he was concertmaster of the Cleveland Orchestra under Szell. I was at his final concert in 1960 with the orchestra and the ovation for him from orchestra and audience seems to last an eternity.
HalWeller 4 years ago
Lovely!!! Bravo!
Lamjata 5 years ago
Beautiful tone...By the way...this is Joshua Bells teacher. Thanks for posting.
sherom 5 years ago
Your welcome. Coincidentally, Gingold was also my teacher's teacher. I always sort of hoped that a part of Gingold would trickle down to me. not likely... :(
aimson 5 years ago
I think something more than trickled down .. The fact that you would share this recording you must be aware of the things that makes it so ....
stradivariusone 5 years ago
fabulous man, great teacher from what i've heard. the International Indy violin competition was basically founded by gingold. great guy.
sofly09 5 years ago
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i love it :)!!
nanananajojojo 5 years ago