Carlos if u ever read this, please bring this to India..You know how much we r conscious of saveing money and not wasteing money on fuel...also please price it under 10lakhs.. even 9.8lakhs would be good if its only a psychological barrier...
This looks awesome, but for all you people out there that think this is the environment saver. Where do you think all that electricity is going to come from? We are roughly 50 % coal powered here in the United States, or did you think that the energy just appeared magically to your wall socket?
@505Viking In terms of environmental effects...Even when charged from the dirtiest coal plant at peak time the C02 levels are still lower, if you still think global warming is a crock, the particulate levels and noxious gas levels that cause so many deaths and diseases are also lower overall
@505Viking Dear, gasoline motors have an energy efficiency of 28% but that is at best. In real life, even a careful driver won't get more than 20% at best and for automatic vehicles this is even lower.
However a fossil fuel electricity production unit - be it with petrol or coal - is constructed to function at a standardised way and it is much more energy efficient - with efficiency that rises about 33%. Since electric motors have 90% efficiency the efficiency will be abotu 29%, i.e. better
The market has spoken and we WANT and our world NEEDs EVs. The battery technology is finally there and affordablility as it is mass produced will bring down prices. Screw you big oil, screw you GM for taking EVs off the road in the 90s. As a whole, civilization can accomplish the impossible.
This is a fantastic idea that seems so simple; why has it not been done before? you cant help but think "Will it have the milk float whine that you used to hear at 4am"?
While I share your apprehension and disappointment in the auto industry, This is the best start I've seen on the road to gas independence and unlike the ev-1 and others from what i've gathered we will be allowed to purchase this car. I'm pretty sure there's a lit of electrical engineer's an the like that will be building battery packs of their own, I'm putting one through collage right now and I'm expecting some pay back :-) Just have to worry about big brother getting in the way.
@benympls if you can afford that kind of money you could perhaps have ACpropulsion make you for instance an Audi A4 with a tesla style powertrain right now. my guess is the short range model S will cost near 80k$. not the 57 they've talked about.
@DanFrederiksen short range? teslas can come with either a 160 mile range, a 230 mile range and or a 300 mile range... is that short range to you? i'm on the waiting list witch is a $5,000 deposit on one with a 230 mile range. I already know how much i'm paying, where are you coming up with these numbers? your imagination?
i've already looked at ghetto rigging electric vehicle but i want to support & show demand for electric cars for sale. 50k is a decent amount of money but its not un do able
#1. About 10-15 years. #2. Nothing. Your monthly lease payments cover the cost of the battery, and it's paid off in full by the time you need a replacement.
Only time will tell if these lifespan claims turn out to be true! they made similar claims about energy saving light bulbs which turned out to be greatly overstated, I would like to see this car succeed but its got a lot to prove, so many before it have failed, the infrastructure still Isn't there! its hard not to see electric cars as a joke when they have been one for such a very long time!
Electric car Infrastructure? You mean the electrical grid? It's what you're running your computer off of right now. :P See all those public outlets around the outsides of buildings? That's what I use. There are also paid charge points popping up everywhere, but you might not have noticed if you weren't specifically looking for them.
As for the batteries, the lifetime is a matter of contract. If they die early, no skin off my nose, it's the company's responsibility to replace it.
I have only seen 2 charging stations where I come from! and I have never seen an electric car in real life (that's not a milk float) there are no charging stations near public buildings! the UK market must be way behind! I have always imagined using existing petrol stations as a location for charging points, the main problems seem to be, how long it takes to charge the car up and how many miles you can get before it needs charging, I'll be sticking with the petrol engine for now!
It takes about three minutes to do a battery swap. Nissan, Renault and Tesla are using standard battery packs that can be removed once empty and replaced with fully charged ones at "Swap stations" that are no more mechanically complex than a car wash. See it in action at video ID: qd0WPw3p2MQ
I've got a GEM car and a moped, both electric, and that's how I do it. I have two batteries for each. I use one while the other charges at home. Because they're li-ion, they don't weigh much either.
That sounds really good! I'm guessing driving an electric is similar to an automatic car! we have a long way to go over here before we have anything like that! it'll be years before its worthwhile to buy an electric in the UK! and they cost too much! like for like petrol cars are still cheaper! and electricity is not as cheap as it used to be! countries like the united states have far more resources to implement such infrastructure changes even hybrid cars are pretty rare!
As much as I love the GEM car, I have to admit, the moped is more practical. Because they use smaller batteries (on account of being more lightweight and having less of a range) they cost less than gasoline mopeds by about $1,000 if you buy one that'll do 30 miles at 20mph. A moped that'll do 60 miles at 45mph costs roughly $2,500, the same as brand new honda Ruckus or comparable gas moped.
It looks like right now, the most cost efficient electric vehicles are bicycles and mopeds.
Actually, I take it back. The Think City will cost about $16,000 which is pretty comparable to what a similar gasoline powered car would run. But that's one of the most affordable EVs out there. The Leaf, at $30,000 is actually pretty cheap as far as EVs go.
Too bad the Think City won't support battery swap. But it can quick-charge in 15 minutes off of a washer/dryer socket at your home, so that's something.
It is not a zero emission car, becuase oil/coal must be burnt to produce electrcity. Anyway it promises to be less expensive. Electric cars will still make our cities air less polluted.
@cippergut Well you are right at some point, but then you can say nothing man-made is zero emmision. Nothing at all. Even the windmill or solar panel must have been made from some material etc etc...
Electric cars make far more efficient use of the energy though, and as a result even if 100% of your power comes from coal (which isn't the case for many of us, remember just over half of America's energy comes from coal, NOT all of it) electric cars still result in a drastic reduction in emissions.
when you label your gas guzzler lean or heavy do you consider the oil drilling, transpo to refinery, truck to gasoline station and the electricity, water, emmissions during those activities???
GREAT!!!. i think this is even better than hybrids, but a step back from "plug-in hybrids" i'd buy one obviously. this will be a daily driver and if cross-country travel is needed. i'll just use my larger ICE car. but for my 97% daily commute. this is perfect. i wonder how much. im tired of gassing my EVO every week and a half and costing 40 some bucks. lets have it EVs. nice job nissan. brining a powerhouse (GT-R & 370Z) and an EV at the same time. you made a believer in me.
so the litzum ion battery is for lease. This may suffer the same fate as the Think of Norway. After all the hype, you kill it by leasing the battery. It's a nissan anyway.
Carlos if u ever read this, please bring this to India..You know how much we r conscious of saveing money and not wasteing money on fuel...also please price it under 10lakhs.. even 9.8lakhs would be good if its only a psychological barrier...
KarthikSoun 4 months ago
Carlos is a nice guy. Don't Judge him by His Physique and Look Down on Him.
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Butchmedic 10 months ago
how long do the batteries last? I mean how many years can you have them before they go "bad"
d3adc0rpse 1 year ago
how are we going to build and maintain all the roads and highways with money coming from gasoline TAX ?
you know where im going with this
emforty2 1 year ago
@emforty2 We're moving towards toll roads and road charging anyway
eldictator1 1 year ago
They should make everybody in Cali drive this thing.
Back4More42 1 year ago
This looks awesome, but for all you people out there that think this is the environment saver. Where do you think all that electricity is going to come from? We are roughly 50 % coal powered here in the United States, or did you think that the energy just appeared magically to your wall socket?
505Viking 1 year ago
@505Viking In terms of environmental effects...Even when charged from the dirtiest coal plant at peak time the C02 levels are still lower, if you still think global warming is a crock, the particulate levels and noxious gas levels that cause so many deaths and diseases are also lower overall
eldictator1 1 year ago
@505Viking Dear, gasoline motors have an energy efficiency of 28% but that is at best. In real life, even a careful driver won't get more than 20% at best and for automatic vehicles this is even lower.
However a fossil fuel electricity production unit - be it with petrol or coal - is constructed to function at a standardised way and it is much more energy efficient - with efficiency that rises about 33%. Since electric motors have 90% efficiency the efficiency will be abotu 29%, i.e. better
notgodsemigod 1 year ago
I want it.
This = 10 grand off grid solar home = environment saved :)
Lukeidea 1 year ago
Market this like crazy, please Nissan!!
siliconstate 1 year ago 3
I think I'm a Nissan convert.
marco6981 1 year ago
You should lease the battery, because they could be junk in a short time.
hawkermustang 1 year ago
This is what I've dreamed.
All family cars should be electric
hawkwind2002 1 year ago
The market has spoken and we WANT and our world NEEDs EVs. The battery technology is finally there and affordablility as it is mass produced will bring down prices. Screw you big oil, screw you GM for taking EVs off the road in the 90s. As a whole, civilization can accomplish the impossible.
mycatisromeo 1 year ago
This is a fantastic idea that seems so simple; why has it not been done before? you cant help but think "Will it have the milk float whine that you used to hear at 4am"?
MrMrTaylor 1 year ago
Leasing battery? Doesn't it sound like the Saturn EV1 for you guys? haha we can never have an electric car!
jamessicat25 1 year ago
While I share your apprehension and disappointment in the auto industry, This is the best start I've seen on the road to gas independence and unlike the ev-1 and others from what i've gathered we will be allowed to purchase this car. I'm pretty sure there's a lit of electrical engineer's an the like that will be building battery packs of their own, I'm putting one through collage right now and I'm expecting some pay back :-) Just have to worry about big brother getting in the way.
jvmalum 1 year ago
@jamessicat25 im waiting for the Tesla Model S
benympls 1 year ago
@benympls if you can afford that kind of money you could perhaps have ACpropulsion make you for instance an Audi A4 with a tesla style powertrain right now. my guess is the short range model S will cost near 80k$. not the 57 they've talked about.
DanFrederiksen 1 year ago
@DanFrederiksen short range? teslas can come with either a 160 mile range, a 230 mile range and or a 300 mile range... is that short range to you? i'm on the waiting list witch is a $5,000 deposit on one with a 230 mile range. I already know how much i'm paying, where are you coming up with these numbers? your imagination?
i've already looked at ghetto rigging electric vehicle but i want to support & show demand for electric cars for sale. 50k is a decent amount of money but its not un do able
benympls 1 year ago
@benympls I didn't mean short in an absolute sense. just the shortest of the options. 160miles.
are you contractually promised a fixed known price? if so what?
that would be news to me at least.
DanFrederiksen 1 year ago
Sounds like you're buying the car but only LEASING the batteries. That's a scam, BIGTIME!!!
retrodog63 1 year ago
Its always the batteries that let these cars down in the end! how long before the batteries start to lose charge, and how much to replace them.
katakisLives 2 years ago
#1. About 10-15 years. #2. Nothing. Your monthly lease payments cover the cost of the battery, and it's paid off in full by the time you need a replacement.
Zamboro 2 years ago 2
Only time will tell if these lifespan claims turn out to be true! they made similar claims about energy saving light bulbs which turned out to be greatly overstated, I would like to see this car succeed but its got a lot to prove, so many before it have failed, the infrastructure still Isn't there! its hard not to see electric cars as a joke when they have been one for such a very long time!
katakisLives 2 years ago
Electric car Infrastructure? You mean the electrical grid? It's what you're running your computer off of right now. :P See all those public outlets around the outsides of buildings? That's what I use. There are also paid charge points popping up everywhere, but you might not have noticed if you weren't specifically looking for them.
As for the batteries, the lifetime is a matter of contract. If they die early, no skin off my nose, it's the company's responsibility to replace it.
Zamboro 2 years ago
I have only seen 2 charging stations where I come from! and I have never seen an electric car in real life (that's not a milk float) there are no charging stations near public buildings! the UK market must be way behind! I have always imagined using existing petrol stations as a location for charging points, the main problems seem to be, how long it takes to charge the car up and how many miles you can get before it needs charging, I'll be sticking with the petrol engine for now!
katakisLives 2 years ago
It takes about three minutes to do a battery swap. Nissan, Renault and Tesla are using standard battery packs that can be removed once empty and replaced with fully charged ones at "Swap stations" that are no more mechanically complex than a car wash. See it in action at video ID: qd0WPw3p2MQ
I've got a GEM car and a moped, both electric, and that's how I do it. I have two batteries for each. I use one while the other charges at home. Because they're li-ion, they don't weigh much either.
Zamboro 2 years ago
That sounds really good! I'm guessing driving an electric is similar to an automatic car! we have a long way to go over here before we have anything like that! it'll be years before its worthwhile to buy an electric in the UK! and they cost too much! like for like petrol cars are still cheaper! and electricity is not as cheap as it used to be! countries like the united states have far more resources to implement such infrastructure changes even hybrid cars are pretty rare!
katakisLives 2 years ago
As much as I love the GEM car, I have to admit, the moped is more practical. Because they use smaller batteries (on account of being more lightweight and having less of a range) they cost less than gasoline mopeds by about $1,000 if you buy one that'll do 30 miles at 20mph. A moped that'll do 60 miles at 45mph costs roughly $2,500, the same as brand new honda Ruckus or comparable gas moped.
It looks like right now, the most cost efficient electric vehicles are bicycles and mopeds.
Zamboro 2 years ago
Actually, I take it back. The Think City will cost about $16,000 which is pretty comparable to what a similar gasoline powered car would run. But that's one of the most affordable EVs out there. The Leaf, at $30,000 is actually pretty cheap as far as EVs go.
Too bad the Think City won't support battery swap. But it can quick-charge in 15 minutes off of a washer/dryer socket at your home, so that's something.
Zamboro 2 years ago
cool mr bean runs nissan now
HIHGSCHOOL 2 years ago
I dont like it.
living4fire 2 years ago
So basically if you want more bang for your buck go with the LEAF.
..,and as an added bonus we get to improve Air quality. For me this is a win win,
malgacho 2 years ago 9
the govt will not allow to lose sales tax from gasoline consumption if you don't consume gasoline they will hit you somewhere i guarantee you
in the end you don't save money but maybe cleaned up the environment just a little bit !
emforty2 2 years ago
emforty2, here in the UK it won't be long before the government starts charging motorists by the mile.
That's how the government will recoup all the tax revenues lost from gasoline.
worthlessdollar1 2 years ago
It is not a zero emission car, becuase oil/coal must be burnt to produce electrcity. Anyway it promises to be less expensive. Electric cars will still make our cities air less polluted.
cippergut 2 years ago
@cippergut Well you are right at some point, but then you can say nothing man-made is zero emmision. Nothing at all. Even the windmill or solar panel must have been made from some material etc etc...
Nerte85 2 years ago
Electric cars make far more efficient use of the energy though, and as a result even if 100% of your power comes from coal (which isn't the case for many of us, remember just over half of America's energy comes from coal, NOT all of it) electric cars still result in a drastic reduction in emissions.
Zamboro 2 years ago
motherfuckers ghosn see his video
( nissan bait & switch ) or ( nissan tent sale attack ) ( car pimps ceo ) he is asshole all the way
workingmaninaz 2 years ago
"zero emmission" is misleading. It would be "zero emmission" if our nation's energy grid was "zero emmissions".
But, still pretty damn cool!
cavemanillustrations 2 years ago
when you label your gas guzzler lean or heavy do you consider the oil drilling, transpo to refinery, truck to gasoline station and the electricity, water, emmissions during those activities???
raceclean 2 years ago
Thanks for pointing that out. I think a lot of people disregard how many steps are involved in energy production. ^^
It can only ever be zero emission if the entire energy grid goes clean and renewable, which isn't going to happen anytime soon at all.
calibris 2 years ago 2
SOLAR POWER + ELECTRIC CARS = FREEDOM !
kostea13 2 years ago
Brazilian or Lebanese or French. The irony is not an American CEO (oil junkies) to see the obvious!
roykaz 2 years ago
he ripoff motherfucker see hin on the tube NISSAN TENT SALE ATTACK
DAWCRC 2 years ago
americans, don't buy nissan because carlos ghosn is lebanese (ARAB)....
lol, just kidding...i was pointing out the stupidity of some of my fellow americans...
carlos and nissan rocks! screw GM and volt!
lavakava 2 years ago
Hey stupid! Ghosn is brazilian...
putzgrila2008 2 years ago
he's brazilian by nationality, but arab (lebanese) by race/birth...GHOSN is a typical lebanese name.
look it up in wikipedia, fool!
lavakava 2 years ago
where's the us car companies on this?
gst69man 2 years ago
BRAVO NISSAN ! EV RULES !
kostea13 2 years ago 3
cost?
kevsterma 2 years ago
GREAT!!!. i think this is even better than hybrids, but a step back from "plug-in hybrids" i'd buy one obviously. this will be a daily driver and if cross-country travel is needed. i'll just use my larger ICE car. but for my 97% daily commute. this is perfect. i wonder how much. im tired of gassing my EVO every week and a half and costing 40 some bucks. lets have it EVs. nice job nissan. brining a powerhouse (GT-R & 370Z) and an EV at the same time. you made a believer in me.
cyberian2000 2 years ago 10
lucky to have the $ for buy one, envy hurts.
Alfisus 2 years ago
so the litzum ion battery is for lease. This may suffer the same fate as the Think of Norway. After all the hype, you kill it by leasing the battery. It's a nissan anyway.
monicapie90 2 years ago
leechom ion?
lakersph1 2 years ago
I want one!
sweetlinaa 2 years ago 2
cool
Exoskull969 2 years ago