i have instant ocean salt, and when i mixed it and put it in the tank alot of it just went to the bottom. is that what happens to you or did i not mix it good enough?
@metallicspades I used to have the same problem. The solution I found best was to take some warm-hot water, de-chlorinate it (with water conditioner) in a 2L clean ice cream pail. Then add marine salt and slowly as you are adding, stir the water with a spoon. This will dissolve the salt more easily. Sometimes after it's been sitting in a bag for a while, it hardens and the moisture goes out of the salt, making it harder to dissolve.
@metallicspades Mollies are a good choice. Also, bumble bee gobies, which have great personality might I add, are also an okay choice. Apparently they are quick and feisty enough to take care of themselves around puffers. Gouramis are usually okay, but they won't be able to survive in brackish water tanks.
@HauntedVDream Larger pufferfish can be either tropical, or brackish, which means found in estuaries and deltas, where fresh river water meets salt ocean water. "Freshwater" puffers fix into the later category. You should be able to buy figure 8 puffers in most specialty fish stores. I live in Toronto, Ontario, and see them from time to time in Big Al's fish store chain, typically well priced and healthy.
@Eliissaa27 Figure 8 Puffers can go with any of the following successfully: Bumble Bee Gobies, Small Fin Mollies, Columbian Sharks, Mono Sebaes, Mono Argentus, Green Scat, Spotted Scats (be careful as these get quite large). They do not works will with angelfish, goldfish, bettas, or guppies (which they eat). They are notorious fin nippers, even to each other.
what's the puffers feeding schedule? how much do u feed him in a day and how often? would i be okay with the frozen blocks and split them in half, giving him half in the morning and half in the evening?
@MissButterycup97 I typically fed them twice a day, just a pinch of dried krill or small freeze-dried shrimp. They are messy eaters, so I would suggest a floating feeding station to keep the tank cleaner. Once in a while I would also purchase a live snail, give the shell a good crack with a hammer, and drop it in the tank for them to eat as a treat, and to keep their beaks short and well maintained.
@MissButterycup97 Some argue that you can, however they are mainly found in the wild in estuaries and delta (brackish) water. All Figure 8 puffers are wild caught, as they cannot be bred in captivity.
@MissButterycup97 puffers like these are definitely NOT fresh water. they're confused for being fresh water because when we catch them, they are usually in a fresh body of water on their way to more brackish water. and while they can thrive in fresh as young babies, they start to do worse over time. I have a baby figure 8 in brackish water and he's doing great! yeah i replied to myself, got a problem with it?
Hey at 0:05 , is that a bubble nest? Cuz bettas make those and i have a betta and it wanted to buy a tiny puffer fish (like yours) but the guy from the pet store said they cant live together. (pls respond)
@drkingslend When doing water changes, you use what's called a hydrometer, which measures the specific "gravity" or salt content of the water. To add the correct salt, you add Marine Salt (such as brands Instant Ocean), NOT "aquarium salt" that is used to help with parasites.
how bigs your tank? i want to put a figure 8 puffer on its own in 30Litre tank but im not sure if i should. do they do alright living alone? the tanks 24 by 8 by 9
@ClaudeyBoy This tank was approximately 38 US Gallons. But figure 8's stay very small, but still can only be put in that small of a tank if you have lots of breaks in line of sight (as puffers are territorial).
@skeezerzz yes, sea stars do not need plants to survive, but they are very very VERY sensitive creatures, just like all echinoderms they are very sensitive to salinity changes so you have to make sure your tank is perfect for them to thrive
@mehdan2 Yes they were. My favorite pets to date. They are very intelligent, and would swim to meet me every morning for feedings. Very cool, if not rare, pet.
@keithj2222 This tank no longer exists, but it was approximately 30 Gal. Technically that's a little small for 4 puffers, but I had plenty of plant cover so they hardly got territorial. I had a Whisper 30-60 overhang filter, with both carbon filtering and the normal refuse filters. I changed them every month as suggested by the manufacturer.
i had one puffer in my ten gallon a while ago, and deinitely have it without any crabs, and no other fish as well, the puffers can be aggressive fish and are known to eat little fish that can fit in their mouthes
Nope. Puffers are carnivores that primarily feed on crustaceans aka crabs. So unless you are okay with the crabs being dinner for your lil puffers, its a terrible idea
how big do they get? i need someone who has a mature one and can tell me. and if u could also recamend a freshwater puffer thats can live in comunnity
MAX size for them is 3 inches, most puffer fish are aggressive so therefore it's not recommended to keep them in a community tank with fish that aren't aggressive.
@Nathan1097 Actually, the molly outlived all of them! He did get nipped from time to time, but he died of a rare blood disorder, not due to the puffers.
@Andydag904 Never had a problem. I think this was due to lots of plant coverage that broke the line of sight and any aggression. They did have a hierarchy, and often hung out together. It was very cool to watch them posture, which basically is them going head to head like they are kissing, then the submissive curling their tail and swimming away.
i have a gsp ( bert ) a fig8 ( devin ) & a bumble bee goby ( l.b.g.) in a 55 gal and their doin' any ideas of what other type of puffers or other fish can put with them.
ok lets clarify brackish for everyone. saltwater is around 1.025 sg (specific gravity), which is the measure of dissolved salt. brackish is around 1.000 sg, which means it does have salt, but not as much as saltwater. only brackish fish, which live in brackish water in the wild, can live in brackish aquariums. this would include figure 8 puffers, mollies, scats, columbian sharks, etc.
Mmm , if that is true I just wonder why on every site I did search ( more than 8 including wikipedia) before I wrote the previous message , says this specie belong to fresh water and is able to support some salt ???
Not offense here , just trying to clarify to what kind of water belongs this specie nowadays .
@iPhOnDeHelper No. Fresh water is fresh water. This means water from the tap, with dechlorinator in it. Salt water (called Marine), is a very complete salt water/nutrient mix. This is like the water you see in tanks with coral reefs. Brackish water, is water similar to water you find in deltas, where fresh river water meets salty ocean water. So the water is technically fresh water w marine salt added.
HELP my 8 figure got finned nipped by my other puffer and damsels. It has a cut in its tail and about half of its fins are shreadded. I have it in a breeder box which also works for aggressive or injured fish. Is this ok and how long can i leave him here?
not really. they only need.08 salinity so a 25 dollar box of salt will last a while. If you have mollies, guppies, or platies they will be ok in the salt water for 3-4 months. you don't need anything special besides the salt and a hydrometer (20 bucks) for a brackish tank.
The need snails or shelfs to survive!!! No joke!! Without their teeth will grow steadily until the cannot open their mouth anymore. So they will starve to death!!!!
Two puffers? Or mollies? Either way, it wouldn't end too well. Figure 8 puffers need 10 or 15 gallons minimum tank water, and mollies are about the same. Two would probably do OK in the 15-gallon set-up, but I suggest you do your own research.
is it normal for a new porcupine puffer to be rather still at the to of my tanks, i have had him a couple of days now and he dont do much, feeds great tho !
They are cute..I got three tonight with some birthday money..dude can anyone give me some advice? How much room do they need? How much do they usually eat? I bought "freeze dried" blood worms....they are in a really small one gallon air circulating tank..(didnt know any better!) Any advice??
Well first, honestly, your tank is too small for, well, pretty much anything to live happily. Second, these puffer fish need alot of room or else they may get stressed and start attacking each other. bloodworms are a good food source, so you should stick with them. The worms have a lot of protein, and puffer like the figure 8 need more protein then most fish. They also like eating snails and shrimp as snacks! Id suggest putting them in at least a 20gal tank and you'll be fine!
They are not aggressive towards each other? I just started keeping two pufferfish a week ago, I had them in separate tanks, but found they went through too many snails so I gave the 10 gallon to the snails so I wouldnt have to keep making trips to petsmart:) they are so cute! You sound so happy:) Cute little family of fish:)
I have 5 Balloon mollie's in my tank with 2 kinds of puffer fish and they don't kill each other or even chase around. After researching I found out that as long as the puffer fish are babies then they wont be aggresive and kill other fish.
I used to keep my Green spotted puffer with three mollies and they did excellently, though she (the puffer) did get a bit aggressive during feedings, but that is to be expected with puffs.
Hi, nice Puffers, they look very healthy, please, would you like to answer me a question?, What kind of snails do you give them?, I used to have one puffer, but it died, I tried to feed him with some apple snails but they are too big for them, and I have seen here in youtube that some people feed them with smaller snails, very small, like the ones in norareef`s video, if you know them would you tell me their name please, thank you, and keep your puffers healthy, they look great.
Thank you! One of them died recently of an internal parasite. Made me very sad. Your LFS (where you bought the puffers), should carry snails appropriate. Always buy small round shelled snails, as snails that are too large or have thick shells are impossible for puffers to break. Sometimes I would take a hammer and lightly crack the shell on a feeder snail to help out the puffers. Do NOT use snails found in the wild, such as from ponds or lakes, as they have parasites which can kill your puffers.
The Pacu, Jack Dempsey, and the algae eater are all freshwater fish.
Brackish fish are very rare and hard to find unless you come by one by chance. There are few species in the aquarium trade considered brackish. They are: Figure 9 puffers, Green Spotted Puffers (also known as GSP's), Mono Sebae and Mono Argentus (also known as fingerfish), archer fish, columbian and high fin catfish, chromides, and livebearers (like guppies and mollies). Most others are fresh water fish
F8's are much easier to care for then GSP's. GSP's have a very aggressive temperment, and grow much larger then Figure 8 puffer fish. GST's at full size need a tank at least 45Gal! GSP's can grow to almost 6" in length! You don't have to break their teeth. Puffers are like birds, they need something to gnaw on to keep their beak or tooth from growing too large. All this requires is food with a shell - crayfish or small round snails. Be sure to clean up their waste after as they are messy eaters.
You can use a siphon gravel cleaner, however to fully remove the dirt from the sand you will need to remove it, clean it using a non-food cullander under running water, and place it back in the tank. If you have a smaller tank with a lot of tank, sometimes it's easier to keep doing water changes, and clean the sand and all ornaments at the same time, then replace them into the tank.
Someone plz reply!! I have been told by pet experts and I am planning to put a figure 8 puffer(grows to 2.5 inches) by itself in my 10 gallon aquarium. They can be fine by themselves and are not very sociable as it is and will be very happy by itself in my 10 gallon. Is this true and is there any more room for adding any more figure 8 puffers?
1 puffer is fine in a 10 gallon tank in theory, however you wouldn't be able to put any other fish in tank, and he/she would get very lonely. I would suggest nothing smaller then a 20 Gal, so then you could put in something small like an orange chromide or a gobie to keep the puffer company. Those two species can hold their own against a puffer.
You can get them from any large chain fish or pet store. Do NOT gather snails from beaches, as they are contaminated with chemicals from the water and will kill your fish.
No. You need an instrument called a hydrometer, and you need to know the specific gravity (salt content) in order for the puffers to be okay. They can adjust to varying levels of marine salt, however it is far from half/half. That will kill anything. Even the ocean is not that salt. Look up the correct salinity on Badman's Tropical Fish website. He has the correct gravity levels for a brackish puffer tank. I don't know the reading off hand, so please go there.
Two of them can probably live together in a 29Gallon tank, no problem. Just to be sure to have a lot of rocks and plants (use plastic plants, as puffers and other brackish species will eat live plants like chocolate). Also, please use sand, not gravel in your tank, as puffers like to zip along the bottom and can get their bellies scratched if you use gravel.
Most brackish species can eat freeze dried shrimp (that's what I feed my puffers), bloodworms, and fresh feeder snails. The snails you have to feed them once every month and a half or so or their beaks (the big tooth they have in their mouth) will grow too large and will inhibit them from eating. Puffers of this kind also love fresh foods, fresh non-frozen shrimp, and krill which you can buy as eggs and they will hatch in the water as live food.
I would suggest you Google "Badman's Tropical Fish". They have a website which has excellent information on starting a tank, and specifically information on puffers and starting up a brackish tank.
GSP's can live with most of the same species that get along with Figure 8's, however, at some point sooner then later, the other fish will suffer an unfortunate fate. The GSP will eventually outgrow and kill all the other fish in the tank. Most people who have GSP's have them with gobies or a figure 8 if you want some variety. Scats can hold their own as well, but they will grow too big to be in a tank with a GSP that's any less then 90 Gal.
No problem. He can ask all the questions he wants. I don't mind helping at all. I just want to make sure he knows what he's getting into. Keeping puffers is a little more difficult then the average fish tank, that's all.
Certain brackish fish can live together. GSP's are a moody bunch, and will not do well with others in the tank at all. Gobies can do well with puffers in general, such as figure 8's, but the water must be brackish.
I have a tank with the following: Silver Scats, a Columbian Shark, and some figure 8's. Other fish that will fit well in a brackish tank are Mono Sebae or Mono Argentus (if you have a huge, huge tank only), gobies, chromides (green and orange varities), etc. There are not a whole lot of species that go well with puffers. Scats, which can grow to close to 5-6" in size, need a large tank. I have two in a 35 Gal, and that's pushing it.
And, you can't have any other fish in the tank, as puffers are territorial and will kill any other fish, especially GSPs. You also can't have fish with big fins, like guppies, angelfish, or goldfish in the tank with them - they will kill them immediately. That, and a goldfish cannot survive in Brackish water.
when i went to walmart yesterday(in the fish section) i saw green spotted puffers and some lady asked for one and one of the employees grabbed the fish net and picked it up out the water and put it in the bag!!!!!! how long would the fish live after puffing up???!!!
Green Spotted Puffers are NOT figure 8 puffers. They are two very different species. GSP's grow much much larger then Figure 8's. In fact a full grown GSP would need it's own tank of over 40 Gal to support it. (It grows up to 9-10 inches long!). Figure eights only grow to about 2.5" or so at the largest.
As to Walmart, their employees are not trained on how to effectively and appropriately handle pets and fish that they sell. Most fish carried at Walmart die much sooner then they should due to improper water treatments, handling, and feeding. Also, Walmart employees are not trained on how to handle fish in the store. They are paid minimum wage for long hours, and are not the best source of information.
The GSP that the Walmart employee took out of the water via net will probably die in days, if not sooner.I would strongly suggest you go to a reputable private or large chain fish store only, discuss what you'd like to have in terms of a tank, and they can give you appropriate instructions and equipment. Also read up on the species you wish to buy, either in books or online, BEFORE you buy anything. Most fish are sold as juviniles, much smaller then they will be in adulthood.
No. If you go to your local fish store, and tell them you want a suction gravel cleaner, that will work for sand. You can get them in various lengths depending on how tall your tank is. They usually consist of a large tube, with a plastic hose and clip attached for siphoning water into a bucket or sink. Some of the fancier ones come with a longer hoze that screws onto your kitchen sink. They are pricey, and range anywhere between $20-$250.
okay thats cool thatnks for the information but what do you do when you clean the sand (whats your daily routine) and how big of an ice cream container.
My tank is small enough that I do a partial vacuum, then once a month I break down the tank and clean the sand by hand.
2L ice cream container is what you need. You also need to clean the tank within a 4 hr window if you don't have a air pump that you can cycle amongst the containers. any longer then that, and they will sufficate.
so how do you take them out of the tank and clean the tank i going to get some soon please tell me everything i need to now because i want mine to live there full long life spand 5-6 years lol so please
To take figure 8 puffers out of the tank you need to use a clean plastic ice cream container. They can't be lifted out of the water or they will puff up and die. You can net them, but you have to put the container half in the water and let them swim out of the hand net into the container. You have to make sure that they don't get lifted out of the water.
Also, you can't put more then one in a container, or they will attack one another while you're cleaning the tank.
Also, puffers need a tank with sand on the bottom or they will scratch their bellies. Cleaning sand can be difficult. You can vacuum it with a suction cleaner from your local pet store, but you really need to take the sand out and clean it by hand every 4-6 weeks at the most.
Can u keep these guys in 3s with neon tetras ??? Somone reply
FunE4life 1 month ago
can u keep them with other breed of puffer fish even the smaller ones dwarf puffers?
johnnyfisalive 2 months ago
can u keep these fish with shrimp?
johnnyfisalive 2 months ago
@johnnyfisalive no puffers are known to eat shrimp,smaller fish,and anything that's smaller than them
gekkoguy911 2 months ago
how can u tell which is male and female?
johnnyfisalive 2 months ago
Dont these fish need salts?
Z3kedog 2 months ago
i have instant ocean salt, and when i mixed it and put it in the tank alot of it just went to the bottom. is that what happens to you or did i not mix it good enough?
metallicspades 2 months ago
@metallicspades I used to have the same problem. The solution I found best was to take some warm-hot water, de-chlorinate it (with water conditioner) in a 2L clean ice cream pail. Then add marine salt and slowly as you are adding, stir the water with a spoon. This will dissolve the salt more easily. Sometimes after it's been sitting in a bag for a while, it hardens and the moisture goes out of the salt, making it harder to dissolve.
janfow365 2 months ago
My puffer fish eats frozen peas! just pinch them first to get the peel off.
TheBsk5150 3 months ago
Hey is a Pufferfish tropical? and where can I buy it? Thanks
HauntedVDream 3 months ago
@HauntedVDream anything that wont be eaten by them. mollies are all i know of
metallicspades 2 months ago
@metallicspades Mollies are a good choice. Also, bumble bee gobies, which have great personality might I add, are also an okay choice. Apparently they are quick and feisty enough to take care of themselves around puffers. Gouramis are usually okay, but they won't be able to survive in brackish water tanks.
janfow365 2 months ago
@HauntedVDream Larger pufferfish can be either tropical, or brackish, which means found in estuaries and deltas, where fresh river water meets salt ocean water. "Freshwater" puffers fix into the later category. You should be able to buy figure 8 puffers in most specialty fish stores. I live in Toronto, Ontario, and see them from time to time in Big Al's fish store chain, typically well priced and healthy.
janfow365 2 months ago
What other fish can these puffers go with
Eliissaa27 5 months ago
@Eliissaa27 Figure 8 Puffers can go with any of the following successfully: Bumble Bee Gobies, Small Fin Mollies, Columbian Sharks, Mono Sebaes, Mono Argentus, Green Scat, Spotted Scats (be careful as these get quite large). They do not works will with angelfish, goldfish, bettas, or guppies (which they eat). They are notorious fin nippers, even to each other.
janfow365 2 months ago
LOL AT THE LAUGH IN THE BEGINNING XD.
bxzel0915 6 months ago
@bxzel0915 I know. I can be a bit of a kid! :)
janfow365 2 months ago
what's the puffers feeding schedule? how much do u feed him in a day and how often? would i be okay with the frozen blocks and split them in half, giving him half in the morning and half in the evening?
MissButterycup97 6 months ago
@MissButterycup97 I typically fed them twice a day, just a pinch of dried krill or small freeze-dried shrimp. They are messy eaters, so I would suggest a floating feeding station to keep the tank cleaner. Once in a while I would also purchase a live snail, give the shell a good crack with a hammer, and drop it in the tank for them to eat as a treat, and to keep their beaks short and well maintained.
janfow365 2 months ago
i love f8 puffers mine are lush and so friendly i could watch them 4 hours and are sooooooooo clever xx
princessbetsyboo89 7 months ago
is it possible to keep a figure 8 puffer in fresh water? because many other people say they thrive better in fresh. it's definitely up for debate.
MissButterycup97 8 months ago
@MissButterycup97 Some argue that you can, however they are mainly found in the wild in estuaries and delta (brackish) water. All Figure 8 puffers are wild caught, as they cannot be bred in captivity.
janfow365 6 months ago
@MissButterycup97 puffers like these are definitely NOT fresh water. they're confused for being fresh water because when we catch them, they are usually in a fresh body of water on their way to more brackish water. and while they can thrive in fresh as young babies, they start to do worse over time. I have a baby figure 8 in brackish water and he's doing great! yeah i replied to myself, got a problem with it?
MissButterycup97 6 months ago
Hey at 0:05 , is that a bubble nest? Cuz bettas make those and i have a betta and it wanted to buy a tiny puffer fish (like yours) but the guy from the pet store said they cant live together. (pls respond)
TheNorthernFury 8 months ago
@TheNorthernFury Not it's not a bubble nest.
janfow365 6 months ago
hey i have a 30 gallon fishtank whit a 1 oscar and 1 pleco
i want a puffer how do i introduce salt to my fishtank ??? did my oscars is gonna die if i do that?
joestar112890 9 months ago
@joestar112890 those 2 fish will not tolerate the salt. If you want a puffer, get a seperate tank, or give away your current fish.
harrison210993 8 months ago
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@joestar112890 those 2 fish will not tolerate the salt. If you want a puffer, get a seperate tank, or give away your current fish.
harrison210993 8 months ago
@joestar112890 Yes. Your oscars are fresh water fish. If you add marine salt you will kill your other fish. Puffers are specialty fish.
janfow365 2 months ago
wat r they eating?
zgoler123456 9 months ago
@zgoler123456 I was feeding them both freeze dried shrimp, bloodworms, and from time to time, a pre-cracked snail so their beaks can be maintained.
janfow365 6 months ago
Nice fish! When you do a water change how do you know how much salt to put in ?
drkingslend 10 months ago
@drkingslend When doing water changes, you use what's called a hydrometer, which measures the specific "gravity" or salt content of the water. To add the correct salt, you add Marine Salt (such as brands Instant Ocean), NOT "aquarium salt" that is used to help with parasites.
janfow365 6 months ago
can i put one or two of these in a 5 gallon tank?
zunedog31 1 year ago
how bigs your tank? i want to put a figure 8 puffer on its own in 30Litre tank but im not sure if i should. do they do alright living alone? the tanks 24 by 8 by 9
ClaudeyBoy 1 year ago
@ClaudeyBoy This tank was approximately 38 US Gallons. But figure 8's stay very small, but still can only be put in that small of a tank if you have lots of breaks in line of sight (as puffers are territorial).
janfow365 6 months ago
very cool
travelin6661 1 year ago
I want a puffer fish sooooo bad!
Malikascoffee15 1 year ago
get a fahaka puffer! i have one hes sooooo cute lol he even dances for food XD
halo3boredom 1 year ago
How big is the tank and did the puffers get any bigger?
CoolBre78 1 year ago
@CoolBre78 The tank is 38 US Gallons. Figure 8 puffers will not get any longer than 2-2.25 inches.
janfow365 6 months ago
hi i just bought 2 can u plz tell me do this puffer reall puff out lol and do u need to brirish the water for this fish thx plz get back to me
steveoace123 1 year ago
Half fresh half salt means half the salt of ocean water. Brackish is the water around where a river joins the ocean.
silverscreenname 1 year ago
can you put starfish in a tank with fake plants??? please respond
skeezerzz 1 year ago
@skeezerzz I don't know.
janfow365 1 year ago
@skeezerzz If you are unable to keep plants, you are probably unable to be proficient enough to look after starfish ;)
I wouldn't the way they eat what they want involves putting their stomach onto a surface, and I wouldn't want a starfish trying to dissolve plastic.
drsquirrel0 1 year ago
@drsquirrel0 Who said i wasn't lol..thanks for the help though but not sure if you are qualified to give me help i'll just ask a professional
skeezerzz 1 year ago
@skeezerzz yes, sea stars do not need plants to survive, but they are very very VERY sensitive creatures, just like all echinoderms they are very sensitive to salinity changes so you have to make sure your tank is perfect for them to thrive
Thebassmster 1 year ago
@skeezerzz yup
911kratos 10 months ago
@skeezerzz Sure, why not?
MEGAONE302 7 months ago
are they friendly to the other fish. thanks
jordy427 1 year ago
what you feed this puffer
coolman8000 1 year ago
How happy everybody is!!
mehdan2 2 years ago
@mehdan2 Yes they were. My favorite pets to date. They are very intelligent, and would swim to meet me every morning for feedings. Very cool, if not rare, pet.
janfow365 1 year ago
how many gallons is ur tank and wha tkind of filtration do you have?
keithj2222 2 years ago
@keithj2222 This tank no longer exists, but it was approximately 30 Gal. Technically that's a little small for 4 puffers, but I had plenty of plant cover so they hardly got territorial. I had a Whisper 30-60 overhang filter, with both carbon filtering and the normal refuse filters. I changed them every month as suggested by the manufacturer.
janfow365 1 year ago
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curiousgirl1981 2 years ago
How may of these can live in a 10-gallon aquarium? And can they live with 5 small crabs?
LiberalHunter72 2 years ago
about 1-2. deffinetly no crabs, they will kill them then eat them
featherfinkeeper 2 years ago
i had one puffer in my ten gallon a while ago, and deinitely have it without any crabs, and no other fish as well, the puffers can be aggressive fish and are known to eat little fish that can fit in their mouthes
Celticninja011 2 years ago
@LiberalHunter72
Nope. Puffers are carnivores that primarily feed on crustaceans aka crabs. So unless you are okay with the crabs being dinner for your lil puffers, its a terrible idea
kashanclaws 2 years ago
nice puffers
featherfinkeeper 2 years ago
is the molly alright in a brackish tank because mine are really sencitive to water change
SuperLeatherface 2 years ago
Yes, Mollies can be kept in Saltwater tanks. I've successfully bred Mollies in Salt Water and they tend to have more color quality.
mspanomc 2 years ago
how big do they get? i need someone who has a mature one and can tell me. and if u could also recamend a freshwater puffer thats can live in comunnity
WaldoElectronics 2 years ago
MAX size for them is 3 inches, most puffer fish are aggressive so therefore it's not recommended to keep them in a community tank with fish that aren't aggressive.
dreamerguy91 2 years ago
but he did. and i had a puffer but my baby bro killed it. it stayed away from my other fish. i was ganna get it a companion but. it died
WaldoElectronics 2 years ago
@ WaldoElectronics: There's always exceptions so that's why i said "most"
dreamerguy91 2 years ago
How are they doing now?
I had mollies with baby green spotted puffs and they at all the food first.
Four figure 8 s is enough to balance with personalities and food. That Molly may be okay now but do t be surprised if he is lunch one day.
Nathan1097 2 years ago
@Nathan1097 Unfortunately, these fish all died a couple of years ago. This is an old vid of mine.
janfow365 2 years ago
@Nathan1097 Actually, the molly outlived all of them! He did get nipped from time to time, but he died of a rare blood disorder, not due to the puffers.
janfow365 1 year ago
they do better in brackish
monkynutzuk 2 years ago
you shouldn't mix puffers with more puffers and other fish....especially in that tank. they will attack each other
Andydag904 2 years ago 2
@Andydag904 Never had a problem. I think this was due to lots of plant coverage that broke the line of sight and any aggression. They did have a hierarchy, and often hung out together. It was very cool to watch them posture, which basically is them going head to head like they are kissing, then the submissive curling their tail and swimming away.
janfow365 1 year ago
buncha fatties.. lmao. thats all mine want to do is eat.. every time you walk by the tank.. they follow and wait. haha.
alljackedup408 2 years ago
Are the plants real or fake?
Kaimanfisch 2 years ago
@Kaimanfisch The plants were fake. Puffers will rip up live plants mostly.
janfow365 1 year ago
@janfow365 They fooled me
Kaimanfisch 1 year ago
i have a gsp ( bert ) a fig8 ( devin ) & a bumble bee goby ( l.b.g.) in a 55 gal and their doin' any ideas of what other type of puffers or other fish can put with them.
ItzReece 2 years ago
@ItzReece You may do well with a couple of silver scats, but they get quite large, so be careful of space.
janfow365 1 year ago
ok lets clarify brackish for everyone. saltwater is around 1.025 sg (specific gravity), which is the measure of dissolved salt. brackish is around 1.000 sg, which means it does have salt, but not as much as saltwater. only brackish fish, which live in brackish water in the wild, can live in brackish aquariums. this would include figure 8 puffers, mollies, scats, columbian sharks, etc.
ShadowsDecember 2 years ago 2
someone please reply how is it half fresh half salt does tht mean both salt and fresh can live in it
iPhOnDeHelper 2 years ago
No , 3 kinds of water , fresh , salt and brackish .
Brackish is not totally fresh and not totally salt is on the middle of both .
And actually in particular this kind of Puffers (Tetraodon biocellatus ) are strictly from fresh water .
Btw nice Puffers. :)
hector7878 2 years ago
not true, some live in brackish streams in asia, they are a brackish puffer.
ShadowsDecember 2 years ago
Mmm , if that is true I just wonder why on every site I did search ( more than 8 including wikipedia) before I wrote the previous message , says this specie belong to fresh water and is able to support some salt ???
Not offense here , just trying to clarify to what kind of water belongs this specie nowadays .
hector7878 2 years ago
nobody really knows...im keeping mine in freshwater and its fine..
kempogirl101 2 years ago
they can live in fresh but better in brackish
monkynutzuk 2 years ago
Actually as the figure of eights reach maturity they NEED brackish to survive. Ignorance is no excuse for cruelty
digglesify 2 years ago
low salinity brackish... 1.005
mikeymacaque 2 years ago
no it means fish that originated in rivers perhaps by the ocean .
OCtrackiepac 2 years ago
no it means that it has salt water in it but not as much as pure salt water.
kempogirl101 2 years ago
@iPhOnDeHelper No. Fresh water is fresh water. This means water from the tap, with dechlorinator in it. Salt water (called Marine), is a very complete salt water/nutrient mix. This is like the water you see in tanks with coral reefs. Brackish water, is water similar to water you find in deltas, where fresh river water meets salty ocean water. So the water is technically fresh water w marine salt added.
janfow365 1 year ago
my puffers wont swollow anything. they chew it up and spit it out. ive tried krill and brine shrimp. Any suggestions?
rkn4x4 2 years ago
they like snails quite a bit, try those.
brettsheakirk 2 years ago
i tried them and they worked but the next day, one of puffers killed the other one and then died the next day.
rkn4x4 2 years ago
dang, you are scaring me with my puffer. haha
comradevinh 2 years ago
HII =)) Very nice=))))
badstorm23 2 years ago
i had some and they killed my oscar it was terrible they first ate his eyes out T-T
lizardman1214 2 years ago
I have 6 of these and they attack my glass catfish
antdaweeze13 2 years ago
HELP my 8 figure got finned nipped by my other puffer and damsels. It has a cut in its tail and about half of its fins are shreadded. I have it in a breeder box which also works for aggressive or injured fish. Is this ok and how long can i leave him here?
yugiohcardtrader1996 2 years ago
my gaurami killed my puffer : (
gallosupreme 2 years ago
how many gallons is your tank and what other fish is in thier?
trainkid12 2 years ago
will these be ok living the first 3-4 months of their life in freshwater then ill upgrade to brackish?
initbludz 3 years ago
not really. they only need.08 salinity so a 25 dollar box of salt will last a while. If you have mollies, guppies, or platies they will be ok in the salt water for 3-4 months. you don't need anything special besides the salt and a hydrometer (20 bucks) for a brackish tank.
michaelcoolen 3 years ago
The need snails or shelfs to survive!!! No joke!! Without their teeth will grow steadily until the cannot open their mouth anymore. So they will starve to death!!!!
fischen80 3 years ago
That's what happened to our puffer fish. He died last night and he was not eating
XtraCash7 2 years ago
i just head they need hard alkaline water any idea what that is
DisturbedAndMore 3 years ago
ya can someone tell me if it would be ok to put two in a 2.5 gallon tank
DisturbedAndMore 3 years ago
Two puffers? Or mollies? Either way, it wouldn't end too well. Figure 8 puffers need 10 or 15 gallons minimum tank water, and mollies are about the same. Two would probably do OK in the 15-gallon set-up, but I suggest you do your own research.
Hope that helps :)
Trustthapo 3 years ago
can u put them with coommunity fish plz respond
12addictedfish 3 years ago
is it normal for a new porcupine puffer to be rather still at the to of my tanks, i have had him a couple of days now and he dont do much, feeds great tho !
thanks
brAd200008 3 years ago
How big is the tank?
xBenawesomex 3 years ago
They are cute..I got three tonight with some birthday money..dude can anyone give me some advice? How much room do they need? How much do they usually eat? I bought "freeze dried" blood worms....they are in a really small one gallon air circulating tank..(didnt know any better!) Any advice??
sinatrafan1987 3 years ago
Well first, honestly, your tank is too small for, well, pretty much anything to live happily. Second, these puffer fish need alot of room or else they may get stressed and start attacking each other. bloodworms are a good food source, so you should stick with them. The worms have a lot of protein, and puffer like the figure 8 need more protein then most fish. They also like eating snails and shrimp as snacks! Id suggest putting them in at least a 20gal tank and you'll be fine!
ShadowsDecember 3 years ago
are they saltwater fish? do they fight with other fish? how big of tank do they need?
Yorki306 3 years ago
They are not aggressive towards each other? I just started keeping two pufferfish a week ago, I had them in separate tanks, but found they went through too many snails so I gave the 10 gallon to the snails so I wouldnt have to keep making trips to petsmart:) they are so cute! You sound so happy:) Cute little family of fish:)
MelissaAsAriel 3 years ago
Hey, nice F8's! Do they not attack your mollie?
mikefreegan 3 years ago
I have 5 Balloon mollie's in my tank with 2 kinds of puffer fish and they don't kill each other or even chase around. After researching I found out that as long as the puffer fish are babies then they wont be aggresive and kill other fish.
FuckYouSuckMyDick 3 years ago
I used to keep my Green spotted puffer with three mollies and they did excellently, though she (the puffer) did get a bit aggressive during feedings, but that is to be expected with puffs.
Trustthapo 3 years ago
Hi, nice Puffers, they look very healthy, please, would you like to answer me a question?, What kind of snails do you give them?, I used to have one puffer, but it died, I tried to feed him with some apple snails but they are too big for them, and I have seen here in youtube that some people feed them with smaller snails, very small, like the ones in norareef`s video, if you know them would you tell me their name please, thank you, and keep your puffers healthy, they look great.
Withoutfeelings44 3 years ago
Thank you! One of them died recently of an internal parasite. Made me very sad. Your LFS (where you bought the puffers), should carry snails appropriate. Always buy small round shelled snails, as snails that are too large or have thick shells are impossible for puffers to break. Sometimes I would take a hammer and lightly crack the shell on a feeder snail to help out the puffers. Do NOT use snails found in the wild, such as from ponds or lakes, as they have parasites which can kill your puffers.
janfow365 3 years ago
Hi iphone12302,
The Pacu, Jack Dempsey, and the algae eater are all freshwater fish.
Brackish fish are very rare and hard to find unless you come by one by chance. There are few species in the aquarium trade considered brackish. They are: Figure 9 puffers, Green Spotted Puffers (also known as GSP's), Mono Sebae and Mono Argentus (also known as fingerfish), archer fish, columbian and high fin catfish, chromides, and livebearers (like guppies and mollies). Most others are fresh water fish
janfow365 3 years ago
sorry, i meant figure 8 puffers
janfow365 3 years ago
im 10 and have a lot of cool fish i will show you my vid and are those freash water fish?
iphone12302 3 years ago
a jan if i buy a figure 8 puffer are they harder to take care of than a GSP?? do you still have to break that tooth that the have???
Legoman2255 3 years ago
F8's are much easier to care for then GSP's. GSP's have a very aggressive temperment, and grow much larger then Figure 8 puffer fish. GST's at full size need a tank at least 45Gal! GSP's can grow to almost 6" in length! You don't have to break their teeth. Puffers are like birds, they need something to gnaw on to keep their beak or tooth from growing too large. All this requires is food with a shell - crayfish or small round snails. Be sure to clean up their waste after as they are messy eaters.
janfow365 3 years ago
can i use a siphon gravelcleaner for cleaning a fish tank with sand
Legoman2255 3 years ago
You can use a siphon gravel cleaner, however to fully remove the dirt from the sand you will need to remove it, clean it using a non-food cullander under running water, and place it back in the tank. If you have a smaller tank with a lot of tank, sometimes it's easier to keep doing water changes, and clean the sand and all ornaments at the same time, then replace them into the tank.
janfow365 3 years ago
one in the 10 gallon would be fine though? i heard that they dont need company and are pretty independent? it would not get lonely they said
iversunfan 3 years ago
they have also told me that they dont care much at all for company and are territorial as it is
iversunfan 3 years ago
alot of people have told me that two in a ten would be perfect do you think that is too much?
iversunfan 3 years ago
Yes. The puffers are territorial and would begin to attack one another eventually. Not a good move to make.
janfow365 3 years ago
can i use a siphon gravelcleaner for cleaning a fish tank with sand
Legoman2255 3 years ago
Yes you can.
janfow365 3 years ago
alot of people have told me that two in a ten would be perfect do you think that is too much?
iversunfan 3 years ago
Someone plz reply!! I have been told by pet experts and I am planning to put a figure 8 puffer(grows to 2.5 inches) by itself in my 10 gallon aquarium. They can be fine by themselves and are not very sociable as it is and will be very happy by itself in my 10 gallon. Is this true and is there any more room for adding any more figure 8 puffers?
iversunfan 3 years ago
1 puffer is fine in a 10 gallon tank in theory, however you wouldn't be able to put any other fish in tank, and he/she would get very lonely. I would suggest nothing smaller then a 20 Gal, so then you could put in something small like an orange chromide or a gobie to keep the puffer company. Those two species can hold their own against a puffer.
janfow365 3 years ago
where do you get the pond snails from
Legoman2255 3 years ago
You can get them from any large chain fish or pet store. Do NOT gather snails from beaches, as they are contaminated with chemicals from the water and will kill your fish.
janfow365 3 years ago
3 teaspoons of marine salt( 1 teaspoon= 5 galllons) so it can be half salt and half fresh?
Legoman2255 3 years ago
No. You need an instrument called a hydrometer, and you need to know the specific gravity (salt content) in order for the puffers to be okay. They can adjust to varying levels of marine salt, however it is far from half/half. That will kill anything. Even the ocean is not that salt. Look up the correct salinity on Badman's Tropical Fish website. He has the correct gravity levels for a brackish puffer tank. I don't know the reading off hand, so please go there.
janfow365 3 years ago
can 2 of them live in a 29 gallon
Legoman2255 3 years ago
Two of them can probably live together in a 29Gallon tank, no problem. Just to be sure to have a lot of rocks and plants (use plastic plants, as puffers and other brackish species will eat live plants like chocolate). Also, please use sand, not gravel in your tank, as puffers like to zip along the bottom and can get their bellies scratched if you use gravel.
janfow365 3 years ago
can i also feed them ghost shrimp??
Legoman2255 3 years ago
Yes
janfow365 3 years ago
what do GSP eat?
Legoman2255 3 years ago
Most brackish species can eat freeze dried shrimp (that's what I feed my puffers), bloodworms, and fresh feeder snails. The snails you have to feed them once every month and a half or so or their beaks (the big tooth they have in their mouth) will grow too large and will inhibit them from eating. Puffers of this kind also love fresh foods, fresh non-frozen shrimp, and krill which you can buy as eggs and they will hatch in the water as live food.
janfow365 3 years ago
I would suggest you Google "Badman's Tropical Fish". They have a website which has excellent information on starting a tank, and specifically information on puffers and starting up a brackish tank.
janfow365 3 years ago
so i have to feed them snails so it can break there big tooth that they have in the front of there mouth and alsocan i feedthe gost shrip!!
Legoman2255 3 years ago
is there any fish that can live with the green spotted puffer
Legoman2255 3 years ago
GSP's can live with most of the same species that get along with Figure 8's, however, at some point sooner then later, the other fish will suffer an unfortunate fate. The GSP will eventually outgrow and kill all the other fish in the tank. Most people who have GSP's have them with gobies or a figure 8 if you want some variety. Scats can hold their own as well, but they will grow too big to be in a tank with a GSP that's any less then 90 Gal.
janfow365 3 years ago
srry for all the questions my brothers wants to get a figur 8 puffer and he wants to know how to take goooooooooood care of it.
Legoman2255 3 years ago
No problem. He can ask all the questions he wants. I don't mind helping at all. I just want to make sure he knows what he's getting into. Keeping puffers is a little more difficult then the average fish tank, that's all.
janfow365 3 years ago
what about a goby violet(look it up on youtube) there are like 12 inches long and they live in brackish water???
Legoman2255 3 years ago
Certain brackish fish can live together. GSP's are a moody bunch, and will not do well with others in the tank at all. Gobies can do well with puffers in general, such as figure 8's, but the water must be brackish.
janfow365 3 years ago
I have a tank with the following: Silver Scats, a Columbian Shark, and some figure 8's. Other fish that will fit well in a brackish tank are Mono Sebae or Mono Argentus (if you have a huge, huge tank only), gobies, chromides (green and orange varities), etc. There are not a whole lot of species that go well with puffers. Scats, which can grow to close to 5-6" in size, need a large tank. I have two in a 35 Gal, and that's pushing it.
janfow365 3 years ago
And, you can't have any other fish in the tank, as puffers are territorial and will kill any other fish, especially GSPs. You also can't have fish with big fins, like guppies, angelfish, or goldfish in the tank with them - they will kill them immediately. That, and a goldfish cannot survive in Brackish water.
janfow365 3 years ago
so if i want a green spottedpuffer fish i have to have a tank that is 40gal!!!!!!
Legoman2255 3 years ago
In short, yes.
janfow365 3 years ago
wow!!! that is huge!!! wow that is a very big fish!! ummmmmmmmmmm i dont know what to say lol
Legoman2255 3 years ago
when i went to walmart yesterday(in the fish section) i saw green spotted puffers and some lady asked for one and one of the employees grabbed the fish net and picked it up out the water and put it in the bag!!!!!! how long would the fish live after puffing up???!!!
Legoman2255 3 years ago
Two things:
Green Spotted Puffers are NOT figure 8 puffers. They are two very different species. GSP's grow much much larger then Figure 8's. In fact a full grown GSP would need it's own tank of over 40 Gal to support it. (It grows up to 9-10 inches long!). Figure eights only grow to about 2.5" or so at the largest.
janfow365 3 years ago
As to Walmart, their employees are not trained on how to effectively and appropriately handle pets and fish that they sell. Most fish carried at Walmart die much sooner then they should due to improper water treatments, handling, and feeding. Also, Walmart employees are not trained on how to handle fish in the store. They are paid minimum wage for long hours, and are not the best source of information.
janfow365 3 years ago
The GSP that the Walmart employee took out of the water via net will probably die in days, if not sooner.I would strongly suggest you go to a reputable private or large chain fish store only, discuss what you'd like to have in terms of a tank, and they can give you appropriate instructions and equipment. Also read up on the species you wish to buy, either in books or online, BEFORE you buy anything. Most fish are sold as juviniles, much smaller then they will be in adulthood.
janfow365 3 years ago
sorry for all the comments but what knid of vaccum is it a special king for sand??
Legoman2255 3 years ago
No. If you go to your local fish store, and tell them you want a suction gravel cleaner, that will work for sand. You can get them in various lengths depending on how tall your tank is. They usually consist of a large tube, with a plastic hose and clip attached for siphoning water into a bucket or sink. Some of the fancier ones come with a longer hoze that screws onto your kitchen sink. They are pricey, and range anywhere between $20-$250.
janfow365 3 years ago
okay thats cool thatnks for the information but what do you do when you clean the sand (whats your daily routine) and how big of an ice cream container.
Legoman2255 3 years ago
My tank is small enough that I do a partial vacuum, then once a month I break down the tank and clean the sand by hand.
2L ice cream container is what you need. You also need to clean the tank within a 4 hr window if you don't have a air pump that you can cycle amongst the containers. any longer then that, and they will sufficate.
janfow365 3 years ago
lol i was reading to fast and didnt see the 2L
Legoman2255 3 years ago
so how do you take them out of the tank and clean the tank i going to get some soon please tell me everything i need to now because i want mine to live there full long life spand 5-6 years lol so please
Legoman2255 3 years ago
To take figure 8 puffers out of the tank you need to use a clean plastic ice cream container. They can't be lifted out of the water or they will puff up and die. You can net them, but you have to put the container half in the water and let them swim out of the hand net into the container. You have to make sure that they don't get lifted out of the water.
janfow365 3 years ago
Also, you can't put more then one in a container, or they will attack one another while you're cleaning the tank.
Also, puffers need a tank with sand on the bottom or they will scratch their bellies. Cleaning sand can be difficult. You can vacuum it with a suction cleaner from your local pet store, but you really need to take the sand out and clean it by hand every 4-6 weeks at the most.
janfow365 3 years ago