Stupid fag ahaha rob this Country? illegal immigrants make this country rich you think a lazy white bastard is going to pick up vegetables and fruits from a field or work minimum wage? I don't think so that's why you need to STFU because you guys don't know shit you fucking white crackers you came here to evade a long time ago and wipe off all the Native Americans and you're calling immigrants that just want a better life criminals? Don't you feel fucking stupid right now :)
@thakidd415 I come from 1000 generations of white farmers. Who the fuck do you think picked the goddamned fruit and veggies before you bean eatin' fucks starting crossing the border en masse? Hmmm?
Lazy white bastard? You little fuck, I wish you were here right now. I'd choke the fucking brown off your inbred, stupid, smelly ass. What's up with the lazy fucking mexbitches that suck the welfare system dry? What about that, dumbass?
@gvman3670 hahaha you funny lil bitch ass cracker yeah that was 1000 generations ago dumb shit what about right now? Just STFU you sound stupid ass fuck and you wouldn't do shit cracker :) I love people like you that say "I will beat your ass" or "choke me to death" because in reality you wouldn't do shit you punk ass scary bitch :)
@thakidd415 I grew up on a farm, so how's that, fuckwad? I am the FIRST generation not to own my own farm as a matter of fact. But that's the fault of the economy and agrofactories.
As for what I'd do, let's just say you wouldn't be the first mouthy punk to take a serious beating. Hell, I used to think fighting was damned sport, just like all redneck white kids. Of course, we actually fight instead of running our mouths and pulling guns and knives. Trust me, you'd be screwed, Jose.
@gvman3670 Breh idgaf bout your fam or what the fuck you did or do or used to or how much you weight or how tall you are or your fighting skills or how many "punks" you beat up or where you lived I really don't care dumb shit and Jose? Can that be my name first? You're an ignorant fuck just by thinking that's my name. I'm not an illegal but I won't let some sukah ass crackers talk shit aight? So have a great life and chill with the "internet thug" it doesn't fit you.
@gvman3670 Yes lazy bastard you lil fuck you read it right? OMG you can read D: and I thought all of you fucks fucked each others relatives my mistake LOL and for your information Welfare only supports LEGAL CITIZENS not IMMIGRANTS so before you start bull shitting make some motherfucking research first you dumb mayonnaise bitch
@thakidd415 My parents grew up 2000 miles apart, asshole. And I happen to be 6' 3" tall and 275#.....nothing little here at all, Jose. I'd rip you and your daddy in half and you wouldn't even slow me down, you tiny, smelly, bean farting panty waste.
I never said all Mexicans were illegal. But illegals need to fucking LEAVE. Mexicans or whatever. Simple, isn't it? If you aren't illegal then have a nice, tall glass of shut the fuck up, munchkin.
@gvman3670 look it up motherfucker it doesn't support an immigrant because to you dumb fuckers every Mexican is "illegal" motherfucker %30 percent of the Economy of this country is provided by immigrants learn your shit first stupid fuck!
Hear that little mexican woman ...."we were here first"
This is why they must be sent back. They do not want to become citizens of the U.S. They want to take it over and make it mexico. Out with the illegals!!
Dear BeanFarts...Please exit border south...and dont ever come back u pooped on America to much!!!!! you're one big FOODSTAMP...Also you plug up all the Walmarts in America....Go home poopoo beanfart! and stop farting out so many bebies
There are pockets of Caucasian peoples in Asia, look up the Uighur in China. Its foolish to deny that facts that Caucasian people had tribes that migrated from Europe to other regions in the far east. Caucasian people have circumnavigated the globe and have moved around on this earth MORE so than any other racial group. That cannot be denied.
The Ainu are Caucasoid and are related to similar groups of people in Russia. Just looking at the images available on Google images of the fair skinned heavily bearded Ainu will be enough to dispel the fallacies you state here. The preponderance of body and facial hair alone puts these people well into the Caucasoid camp, as Caucasians typically have more body hair than any other racial phenotype.
@darkyperv34 What is a gumshoe but a detective? What is a dark pervert but a deviant, a depraved and debased individual? You defined yourself in choosing that name, not I. ROFL!
@TheStoutTeapot Angry? Who is angry? Not I! By the way, a new video examining the EVIDENCE for the predisposition of Caucasians on this continent BEFORE any of the Mongoloid racial types can be found here on YouTube if you search Racial differences and America. Even Latino Anthropologists admit to the evidence supporting Caucasians as the earliest race if man in the Americas.
Really? Are you serious? Paper? LOFL! As IF paper was the nexus to ALL subsequent discoveries and technologies! Laugh on! Clown, you should share in the mirth you dispense. What is your race? Probably one of those indoctrinated Caucasians who like watching Anime, that strange cultural export that Portrays Caucasians rather than Asians.
LOL comments below me. pretty sure "toshiba" is Japanese. Which is not white.
lololol white people created technology. oh you mean like paper, or gun powder? two very key elements that most other types of technology made now would not exists if not of them? and where did they come from?
CHINA. herp derp.
go on and feel proud about your skin color buddy. apparently that's all you've got going for you. otherwise you'd brag about your own accomplishments and not someone else's.
@TheStoutTeapot Toshiba is Japanese, but the technology is ours! As to my accomplishments, I am a well paid professional who had to spend his weekend scrubbing Mara Salvatrucha graffiti off my fence. Yeah, you people were modest at one time, but when you come in large numbers you show your true colors. The white race has been engaged in making everything fair for everyone, but YOU people dream of the day when you can crush us underfoot. Whose the racist? You are.
@stickygumshoes you mean the same technology that wouldn't be possible without paper? would our political borders be the same without the use of gun poweder? how about the millions of people who are alive today and have been saved in the past because of blood banks - something invented by a black man?
oh and what about my people? who are my people? go ahead and tell me tough guy, about my people and my culture. 8D lololol your anger and that bullshit about "your race" is a funny, funny joke.
@TheStoutTeapot are you aware of the Red Haired Caucasoid Mummies in China? Are you aware of the Ainu, the Original Caucasoid people in Japan? Obviously not. Please educate yourself, if you do so, you won't advance these silly arguments that really do nothing to further the validity of your stance.
LMAO, you are pathetic......... the red haired mummies in China are not caucasian and the Ainu are not even caucasian.. LMAo... uneducated much... So what? The ancient Lapp of Europe are supposed to be Mongoloid???
@niamtxiv Its you who are uninformed. The Ainu are indeed Caucasoid. They are a hated racial minority in Japan and represent the original inhabitants of the island.
No, you are the uninformed here. Oh wait, so Indians (from India) should be white since they are caucasoid. Ainu are Australoid, not Caucasoid. The Xirong (western Chinese mummies) are not Caucasoid. I love eurocentric. lol, you do know white people are not the only people that produce blond hair. lol
@niamtxiv The LAST thing the Ainu are Australoid. And yes, Caucasion Europeans are Indoeuropeans. You're waging a losing battle here. Go get an education.
You haven't provided any strong facts and yet, claim I'm losing the battle here? You're the one who needs to get an education. I got my education already.
Guess what? Urm No. The Ainu are Australoid. They are related to Taiwanese natives, Pacific Islanders, Maori, and so on. NOT Caucasoid. So, you're saying a Tamil is Negroid? A Lapp is Mongoloid? A blond hair Fijian is Caucasoid? You're too consume with the notion of race. You have limited understanding of the world people. I suggest you go back to school. Ask any Japanese citizen? Are you stupid? I'm half Japanese.
poor black people. they think white people like them XD if latinos where gone. black people will be blame for everything once again. that's how it works my friend. They blame the minorities.
Even though I'm a LEGAL Mexican, the illegal [Mexicans] can't write their own language. Mexicans are not taking jobs from Americans, your dumb Americans, they are working the jobs that Y'ALL DON'T WANT. Gays and Jews are very hostile when they talk about illegals. Not all illegals are Mexican, they are also illegal Chinese, Central American Immigrants and kept on hating on my heritage.
@hibyeeee2 I don't expect to hear from you again because you are no doubt at this very moment engaged in clearing all modern conveniences, created by whites, from your life. But as a parting shot just KNOW that scientsts HAVE identified Caucasoid remains older than yours in the Americas. This fact is suppressed due to "political correctness" So WHO were the invaders? YOU were. We're back now, and we're in charge! Get used to it.
@hibyeeee2 Are you so ignorant of the meaning of various terms as to think that the concept of "American Indian" refers to a person from the Indian Continent? Oh, but thats right written language was unknown to you before we came and schooled you! Whites BUILT this society AND the technology you now enjoy, tell you what, be true to your people and stop trespassing in OUR world, that of the Internet. Use smoke signals and your oral traditions. You have NO right to enjoy the fruits of OUR labor.
@stickygumshoes dude, the native Americans where happy without all that. they didn't ask for that. The tech kinda ruined our clean planet. So i doubt you should be proud white people invented that just adds to the bad karma >.> Native Americans believe in keeping mother earth save and they worship and took care of it. so don't bring tech up. cause you will lose this argument.oh, and my laptop is toshiba. so.. don't start lololol
@darkyperv34T hen EMBRACE your past! Throw away all the conveniences you have as a result of the White race! After all, if you utilize all these advances you are yourself PARTICIPATING and enriching yourself at the bad 'karma' trough! Hypocrite! BTW the white race INVENTED the technology in your "toshiba"!! The white race is the only race with BOTH the brains AND the creativity to INVENT new technology, the east only mass produces OUR work!
@darkyperv34 Don't even PRETEND you people aren't racist! This isn't even an issue I pay any attention to normally! But when you people wave your Mexican flags and tell US to leave our own land, then you get the horns.
la Raza, what does that mean but the RACE.
The closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values EQUAL rights under the LAW for everyone. It says: "For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing." Come legally, or don't come at all.
@stickygumshoes Judging by a stupid nickname? does it mean you're so retarded that you walk around with gum on your shoe looking like a dumbass? I know you're mad, cause you an the nazi have a large resemblance of having and all white community the way you think your tech is superior, yet the Japanese have crushed you in that. You are indeed racist, i don't need anymore prove, you said it yourself when you though yourself as superior to all other races by bringing that up
again the we were here first argument? so their argument is we lost now give back the land you mostly payed for? if that's their argument doesn't their "country need to become a tiny village again, and the ancestors of the ones they killed to get "their" land get that land back? these people have no real argument so all they say is racist, racist, no not racism, what you preach is racism "white people get out" "black people get out" their words from rallies across the nation
@tigran914 Vil;lage not all of our ancestors lived in small villages. if there were Native civilizations that were more advanced than european ones back than I can only imagine how we'd be right now. You'r abcestors never bought land because any land you bought was stolen you can't buy stolen land. You didn't buy the land from us you bought it from other white people therefore you stole it.
Lets tell the illegal immigrants this, "Fine, you can have all the land you lost during the Mexican-American War. You can have 'Azlan" back, but we're going to blow up every single building we've ever built. "
Fags, Jews and Blacks... haha! lets see who back you up when you want to fight for your rights... I sure as hell aint gonna support gay marriage... F**k you Arpaio... Burn in hell you fat piece of crap.
@hibyeeee2 Ancestors of Asians, you mean the Ainu? The Ainu were the original inhabitants of Japan, and yes they were Caucasoid. A recent documentary has shown that native Americans Europeans and Asians share some genetic markers, so that pretty much validates the inclusion of a Caucasian presence in the Americas.
@stickygumshoes They share similar markers because we're all humans!!!! Humans have 96% in common genetically. It's like saying a german shepperd and a Chihuahua have similar dna markers of course they're both canines just like we're all humans. We're part of the same species. Every crackpot theory that has tried to claim that europeans were here first or africans were here first have always been proven false.
@stickygumshoes It has been proven false you try to claim europeans were here first yet the oldest skull found is a Native not a european. archeology has traced Native groups here beyond 40,000 b.c. You white supremacists just don't wanna see the truth cuz you don't wanna clean up the mess your ancestors made.
@hibyeeee2 Not a white supremcist. But I do follow news and scientific studies made on the various groups that have populated North America. Perhaps if you wish to be taken seriously you should too. Peoples from all over this planet have migrated from various regions since the time the world began. The land continents too used to be attached. To what right do you claim ownership of any land?
@stickygumshoes I do follow scientific studies that's how I know those crackpot theories are proven wrong. I read up into it. This was our home we built advanced civilizations here. We had rich cultures we have a right here cuz this was our home your people are here cuz of invasion not migration. your ancestors came here for immoral greedy evil reasons. migration is not bad but your people's invasion has only led to our demise you wanna live here you should assimilate into our
@stickygumshoes cultures it shouldn't be the other way around. If you wanna live in China you learn a Chinese language and their customs. You wanna got to Japan you learn Japanese and learn their customs. You wanna come here to Abya Yala you learn an Indigenous language and our customs. We have a right to be here cuz before you guys came we prospered here. the same white supremacists telling us that Natives have no right to claim ownership of land are the same people telling us that
@stickygumshoes that we don't belong here and we're illegal. who are they to say we don't belong on a part of our own continent? This is our home. White supremacists imposed their languages ideals and beliefs and now our languages and ideals are the minority which should be the majority on our land. we took nothing from you yet you all took everything from us and continue not to fix what yopur ancestors did. there' good honest white people that have tried to fix their ancetor's wrongs.
@stickygumshoes There's white people I've met who recognize what their ancestors did and support our Indigenous uprise. You all should follow their example. They are true honest good moral human beings.
@hibyeeee2 are you speaking as an American Indian? Or are you a Mexican? Mexicans have no claim to North America, whatsoever. If you want America to be like Mexico, then you are an idiot. Mexicans have very little ability to govern a nation. Thats why the Anglo Mexicans tend to be in charge.
@stickygumshoes I'm not speaking as an American Indian cuz my ancestors aren't from India. I'm speaking as an Indigenous person to Abya Yala (this continent). Whites have no right to claim who has the right on Indigenous land. Whether I'm a Native from Mexico, a Native of Peru, a Native of Brazil, or a Native of Guatemala I have more right to be here than any white person.
@hibyeeee2 so the fact that you're people killed other people to get this land seems to elude your mind does it? cause guess what every nation/ every people has had to kill others and "steal" land, that's how civilizations grow, that's humanity, the weaker and less technologically advanced die and lose their land that is the history of the world, what right do you have to pick and choose which is right and wrong, NONE!!!!! your ancestors killed to get land and so did mine, live with it
@tigran914 My ancestors never committed the same criminal acts as your ancestors. there were fights and conflicts but never did they try to wipe out an entire people. Your ancestors drove some Natives to near extinction. Killed off languages and forced us into slavery. If you think killing, enslaving, and robbing someone of their heritage, language and home is how a civilization grows than your immoral it was disease that killed us your ancestors were not more advanced.
@hibyeeee2 morn you obviously know nothing cause yeah almost all Native Americans were trying to eliminate the villages next to them, they killed enslaved and robbed people but they destroyed the heritage, and the language
bias is a very big deal with your argument, you only care about your people(that's how most people think) but if you're going to preach about morals maybe you should be less biased than it's ok when we did it, it's never ok but as i said that's civilization
@tigran914 Don't be calling me a moron when it's obvious you know nothing about native history. I'm not being biased and I'll admit anything. Id a Native nation every tried to make mine assimilate I'd be fighting against them but such a thing didn't happen. The Maya, The Mexica, The Purepecha, The Zapoteca, etc. did not just pillage slaves were usually criminals. But no they did not destroy anyone's languages or heritage. I am not saying my ancestors were perfect they are only humans but
@tigran914 So yes I know my ancestors weren't perfect. I know of rivalries but it's a fact that they never did anything as bad as europeans have done to us. No comparison at all. Spain broke free from arab rule did anyone say "oh no just let the moors stay the spaniards aren't perfect people so it's for them to be under someone else's rule" no they got rid of the arabs.
@hibyeeee2 good example, but is the U.S. treating them like garbage NO, they come here illegally, when if they come legally no one would give 2 shits about em as long as they don't start killing people, you need to understand this the US is by no means perfect but there is a reason everyone comes here, cause when you come here as equals, like all others in the world have to do you become equal in the blind eyes of the law
@tigran914 The u.s. is treating us like garbage. There telling Natives that we can't go to Native land. and this isn't the U.S. this whole continent is not the Americas it is Abya Yala. Their giving us rules on our land the u.s. government has no right to put up these colonial artificial borders the same goes for every government in this continent. I don't see how equal it is. When you come to America to get a job what do you have to speak most of the time? english.
@tigran914 what is the history being taught to us in school? American history about your european "settlers". Why is our history not being taught as a main focus or our languages. Our languages should the majority on this whole continent. Not english, not spanish, not portuguese, not french. If you all wanted to live in our lands you should have assimilated to our cultures and languages not make us assimilate to yours. And if you know the criminal acts of your ancestors then fix them
@hibyeeee2 sir i've had this conversation with my father MANY times, and he seems to fail to notice as you have that if this is done to one place it will be done to all places, and when done to all places cities and nations will return to being one village, this whole continent was never the land of one Indigenous persons it was the land of thousands so how your argument of this was our land can hold i will never understand because, this land didn't belong to a single village it belonged to many
@tigran914 That's my point. Yes there were many Native Nations the land belonged to and it belongs to all Indigenous Nations. Although we come from different nations we are all still Natives. And if a different nation welcomes me into their land then that's all the permission I need. All Natives I have met despite being from a different nation support that in the end we are all Natives and this is Native land.
@hibyeeee2 any one who's being oppressed deserves to fight against their oppressors. China fought for their liberation against foreign powers. Does anyone say spain is wrong for driving out all the moors from spain who were there for 700 years?
"We were here first" the woman at the end stated. NO you weren't! More and more evidence is being unearthed that proves European migration to this continent BEFORE Asian immigration over the land bridge. Check out Solutrean evidence as well as DNA of skeletal remains dating back to 15,000 years ago!
@stickygumshoes The landbridge from asia to hear is a theory that has been proven wrong the oldest skeleton that has been found i think in brazil has been proven to be a native kennewick man.
@hibyeeee2 Not sure what your point is here, but there is no such thing as "a native Kennewick" there is only "THE" KENNEWICK MAN found in 1996 Kennewick Washington, the remains of which courts have found to HAVE NO LINK to Native American populations and whose remains genetically most closely resemble that of White Europeans. The remains are believed to be 15,000 years old and predate ancient Indian remains found thus far. Other findings of Ancient fossils place Europeans here first before "NA"
@stickygumshoes Kennewick Man was proven tobe a Paleo Indian. Damn white supremacisttried hard to pretend they were here first. The only reason why anyone claimed he was a european was cuz of his more caucasoid looking skull his dna did not resemble europeansit was his skull. And the reason why he had a caucasoid skull was cuz at that time everyone had it. Even ancient asians had that skull shape. Skulls evolved with time to the modern mongoloid shaped skull.
@hibyeeee2 Everyone had that skull shape at one time? Tell that to the Anthropologists who've excavated Ancient mongoloid remains. Far from being Eurocentric, scientists have bent over backwards to hand every minority an anthropological lollipop. I've seen plenty of pure bred Indians who I couldn't even tell from a Caucasian. Less so in the Southwest, put plenty in Northern U.S. And Canada. Would it be so terrible if ancient European blood is also in your heritage? Who is the racist here? You.
@stickygumshoes A racist is someone who claims one race is better than another. I have said no such thing. I have seen no Native that looks like a white person. it is a fact mongoloid skulls did not exist at that point in time go ahead ask an anthropologist they'll say the same. Since when have anthropologists given "minorities" "lollipops" that's horse shit All I been seeing is eurocentric people trying to claim this land.
@stickygumshoes I have seen good white people support our cause. People like you our a disgrace. You wanna live on out land you should have assimilated into our culture not make us assimilate to yours. And you can say 'that was a long time ago" but if you were a moral person you'd fix the mess your ancestors made. Our cultures and languages should be the main spoken ones here.
@hibyeeee2 I see what you mean, yes he was a native of this American continent as well as a Caucasoid with genetic links to Europeans. In other words, he had no similarity to what we commonly refer to as American "Indians" or Modern "Native Americas".
@stickygumshoes You are Incorrect. I heard the only thing he had in common with modern europeans was Skull shape which as I said all races had back then. I heard froma a source that he had more similarities genteicall to the Ainu and a source saying he had more in common with natives.
@hibyeeee2 During college my very liberal Anthropology professor described the Ainu of Japan as having been an Ancient Caucasoid people who had been forced out of their lands by Immigrants from mainland China. It is you who are incorrect. The Ainu of Japan today still bear Caucasoid features, this is why they are pretty much despised and shunned by the Japanese people, who do not take well to integration and do not wish to embrace other races.
@stickygumshoes Fool that eurocentric theory has been debunked. It ain't just me saying so. Geneticists seem to back my claims up. Europeans weren't hee first ge over it.
@hibyeeee2 You're wrong about that. There is diverse evidence to support the existence of European peoples in the Americas. One thing that can ALWAYS be said about us, we DO get around. History shows that fact even to those who try to block the truth by disparaging "Eurocentic" claims. No doubt this accounts for the fact that American Indians in the East looked nothing like the Indians of the Southwest. Of course also there is the anecdotal evidence of explorers and even the natives themselves.
@hibyeeee2 Odd that A white and a Native American can have children and bear blue eyed children? Now that can happen in just one generation. Not so with Hispanics blacks or Asians, with them it would take at least two generations of interbreeding with whites. My parents had a friend who was pure Blackfeet Indian, he married a Dutch woman and they had blue eyed kids. And yes they looked like their father too. Of course Kennewick man is an ancestor of Native Americans, but he was Caucasian too.
@youngoldbones We're not hispanics Mexicans, Guatemalans, Salvadoreans, Bolivians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians etc are all natives. Any way if Kennewick man is considered caucasian then so are the ancestors of asians.
I think that this is nothing but a whole piece of bullshit. America doesn´t belong to whites, blacks or Jews. Let me clear up that I´m not an American, and I see American citizens claiming America as theirs, when obviously indigenous people, who are the true Americans, have been discriminated and decreased to second class citizens. That fucking sheriff Joe is ITALIAN, for heaven´s sake!
@as26266 American's are many colors, many races, and from many peoples. But we cease to be those different things, and we become simply Americans. America is a place of diversity. But we do have laws, and those who do not respect our laws, will be punished. Sheriff Joe is a great man who is upholding the law of the land. I'm proud of him. I'm proud to be an American and I will also help to uphold the law of my land. Any who are unjust and unlawful in my land will be punished.
Why Is This Gay Man Against Illegal Immigration? When His OWN Country Wont Let Him Get Married? So Hes Saying Im Gonna Stand Up For MY Country When They Wont Stand Up For HIm? Hmm This Is My Point Of View.
Haha, a gay who doesn't want Mexicans to cross the border. Why? Because Mexico is one of the most "Christian" countries the world has and if they invade this country (which I don't really care about with the crossing borders stuff), they'll hang this fucker and beat him like a pinhata.
@SuperFilosofo69 They didn't stick around so speak English! Where do you think you are, in the bodega eating a burrito? Spanish was not the first language it was every dialect of Native Americans fool! I want to let you know that I don't say anything to people who speak a different language in front of me. I stare at them in the eyeballs until they look away, establishing my dominance. Then I like to hum the national anthem or the Air Force song, tribute to boys 106th.
Your hypocrisy is laughable. That's right, Native American languages fool NOT English. This is NOT England therefore speaking English is not a requirement here.
@apachicana Its called conquest. We kicked the shit out of the Native Americans and took it, then we kicked the shit out of the Mexicans and drove them off in the southwest cause we wanted it. Thats how conquest works. We kill you, you go away, we take your shit. Then we make the laws. And then they are followed by the new rulers. You idiots need to learn that the past is just that, the past. We won, WAH WAH, get the fuck over it.
@apachicana If your a "First Nation" then you have nothing to do with Illegal Immigration...so why are you even commenting? Your here, or more likely in Canada, legally. So who cares. We're talking about a bunch of illegal immigrants from Mexico and other hispanic countries. So just shut up.
You are a non Indigenous settler, so what the fuck do you even have an opinion for? And I ACTUALLY live in Arizona so I am a part of this. I'm commenting to reveal your sides hypocrisy. And I am tired of all this "Speak English" bullshit, this is NOT fucking England magaani and if you want to hear English only you can take your clown ass to England.
Why!? What kind of idiotic question is that? Because it is non Indigenous settlers who are here trying to claim power to determine who is here rightfully or not and unlike you I AM A FIRST NATION, INDIGENOUS. This land is my land, therefore I have a say what goes on in my land, that's why.
@apachicana Well no, this isn't "YOUR" land as you put it. Its the land belonging to the United States Citizenry. It "was" your ancestors land. But they failed to hang on to it. That is all in the past and over with. IF you have the power to take it back, by force, then you can make new laws. Otherwise it has new owners now, and new law makers. You should be glad that we didn't totally genocide everyone here. If we had, you wouldn't be here to complain. The language was voted upon, its English.
I am my ancestors and we are still here.Try again baby boy, by definition that would be called theft, meaning taking something that does not belong to you. Anyone can steal of course however that does not make you the rightful owner of what has been stolen. Everything Hitler did was legal, the killings of innocent Native Americans (no matter if it were a man, woman, child or the elderly) was legal and owning slaves was legal, but does that make it right? Of course not.
Sure, settlers can make all the "laws" they want, however if those "laws" are unjust, not all will follow them, especially those who actually Indigenous to America (unlike European descendants) and that's apparent. Like it or not Mexicans were here prior to the European invasion and they're not going anywhere. Hate it :)
And no dumbass there is no official language in the United States. There have many proposals and attempts however those have all failed and nothing has ever been passed. Next time, save yourself the embarrassment and do your research before commenting me shit-for-brains. By the way, I love how threatened you feel by my words that you feel the need to tell me to "shut up"..haha typical behavior of a White Supremacist. Good to know I get to you so much :)
Haha I can say the same to you. Although your side worked so hard to keep this a "Whites only" "nation" those attempts are failing. This country ain't looking so White anymore, sorry but you loose.
@apachicana Okay, Mexicans did not exist before Euro's, they are product of Euro's and natives. Almost no one in this part of the world is not some level of mix. And if your mix, your the same. They're ancestry is as much European as it is Native American. And just so you know, the State Power are more important than Federal powers, and Arizona has an English-only Law. And we definitely have not tried to keep this country only white, anyone here legally is welcome! I don't care about skin.
FALSE. Mexicans did in fact exist before the European invasion. "Mexican" is English for "Mexica" (meh-shee-kah) a Native American TRIBE/NATION. Like I said if you are going to comment me at least do your research first or pehaps maybe you just like looking like a complete and total jackass? Haha fine by me.
I will repeat, English is NOT the official language in the United States as you were claiming so anyone can speak the language they please and seeing how I am a First Nation I will speak whatever the hell I want and if you don't like tough shit. Again if you have such a big problem with it you can take your White Supremacist ass to England, then the problem will be solved.
Haha keep dreaming baby boy, the DNA testings say otherwise. The majority are in fact of Native American descent. And if what you say is true then how is it that Mexico has the 2nd LARGEST Native American population in (ALL of) America? It's called demographics, brush up on that.
@apachicana The funny thing is you call me a white supremacist and I have no once made this about color. I've been talking about legal vs. illegal immigration. And it doesn't matter if the United States as a nation has a national language, the states have more power than the federal government. And if the state has defined its language as over 25+ states have, then it is law in that state. And Latino is a race created by the Spanish raping the natives they found on the continent.
You are talking out of your ass silly child, "Latino" has nothing to do with this. I find it hilarious how every time you are proven wrong you want to change subjects. "Latino" is NOT a race and no "Latino" in it's original meaning means someone of Roman descent..Italians, Portuguese etc. Very basic shit I shouldn't have to be explaining to you.
I call you a White Supremacist because that is indeed what you are since you keep babbling on about this "English only" bullshit. THIS IS NOT FUCKING ENGLAND. Like I said your side can make all the laws they want but that does not mean people will follow them. "English only" in AZ will NEVER happen especially considering there are 21+ tribes here, something that was clearly not considered and just ignorantly ignored which just goes to show how racist your side truly is.
Is that all you got? Try again. Racism is a belief of superiority and by White Americans believing they have the right to claim who is here rightfully or not is a direct reflection of that belief of superiority which is indeed racism, which is exactly what you are defending. Keep talking.
@apachicana We took it and we'll keep it... no ifs, ands or buts about that! I agree we took it by BS reasons and I agree that Manifest Destiny was a very racist policy but if you know history the Indians were massacring each other way before the first European arrived. The Hunkpapa Lakota Sioux started out in Minnesota, who kicked them out of Minnesota? Who did they massacre for the Black Hills? Do you condemn other Indian tribes? Look in your own backyard before you call racism!
2. by trying to whitewash history and attempting to justify European terrorism.
"Indians" are the people of India, get it straight. Lastly, you're comparing apples to oranges. WE weren't "massacring each other" SOME Native tribes fought each other, sure, we're all human afterall but those tribes never waged wars of extermination the way the European/American governments AND we didn't sail to another continent as your people did to steal land. Keep embarrassing yourself fool.
1. You're talking out of your ass, silly child. I am Ndé so get your facts straight, my tribe did not steal land from anybody. Secondly, you're contradicting yourself by saying "We took it and we'll keep it..." you are agreeing with Manifest Destiny which not only makes you racist but a hypocrite as well, which makes this second statement of yours "I agree that Manifest Destiny was a very racist policy" pure bullshit. It's funny how you're avoiding the actual issue at hand
(1.) Try again, the people you are referring to are NOT "Aztecs", they are MEXICA. Secondly, human sacrifice was for the most part voluntary and considered an honor because they killed to please their god, not for land and pure greed like the Europeans did (and are continuing to do today might I add). Thirdly, when did any tribe in "America" kill 80-90% of a people as the Europeans did? Tell me, which tribe is responsible for an entire holocaust? Can't think of any right? Why?
@apachicana And taking Europeans as a whole group is a BIG MISTAKE. Europe is a union of countries with enormous differences. Do you consider France and Spain remotely similar?
You "can´t manage to understand" because you obviously didn't read all of my comments in which I already went over all of this. Read them or don't bother responding next time.
(2.) Because they never waged wars of extermination. No tribe ever became extinct due to sacrifice and Mexico's indigena populations were never in danger of extinction up until the European invasion. Lastly, human sacrifice happened in Europe as well as other parts of the world so attacking one group for it is awfully foolish and ignorant of you. But if you're going to talk trash about a people at least get your facts straight, I'm not into the propaganda.
@apachicana Let me inform you. When my ancestors colonised South America, they wanted to establish a friendly relationship based on exchange. But when they arrived, they saw nothing but indians eating each other, slaves being misstreated by the chiefs, and constant war between the different tribes. You have no information on the tribes that could disappear before Spanish Occupation, that´s obvious. And I consider it wild to justify such asasinations with honor or fake gods.
Wow, that's quite the twisted logic you have there. You are in dire need of a reality check & a history lesson. What did the Europeans kill for? What did they kill for then & what are they killing for now? GREED AND POWER. Like I said already human sacrifice in Mexica culture was considered an honor. They killed to please their god, NOT for gold & other greedy purposes as the Europeans did. So reciting their religious practices' & your thoughts about them is ignorant & irrelevant.
@apachicana You obviously have no idea on the reasons Europeans conquered America for. Isabel la Católica wanted to extend Catholic faith. And excuse me, but catholic moral based on respect and love is, as I see it, better than a fake religion which suppports assasinations and war, along with wild, tremendous rituals like eating slaves´ hearts.
I was referring to the European settlers who came to our land not all Europeans. "exchange"? "friendly"? - my ass. YOUR PEOPLE CAME HERE FOR GOLD which IS greed. Claiming that they came peacefully & with good intentions is BULLSHIT. Attempting to whitewash history & the crimes of Europeans is pointless & pathetic. The intentions of those European settlers is documented by Bartoleme de las Casas & Christopher Columbus whom wrote all about it in their diaries that are now books.
@apachicana" Attempting to whitewash history is pointless and pathetic". So, attempting to justify wild and unacceptably bloody rituals is equally unjustifiable. And you should respect Bartolomé de las Casas or Hernán Cortés, people who wanted to extend fraternity and Catholic religion. The means might have not been the right ones and I accept that murder was done. However, it´s the same blood that was spoilt in Aztec rituals.
"they saw nothing but indians eating each other, slaves being misstreated by the chiefs, and constant war between the different tribes."
Care to elaborate since you apparently seem to think you know it all? What tribes "ate each other"? Funny you should bring slaves up when it is YOUR own people whom owned thousands of slaves and beat the shit out of the people who disobeyed and resisted (which includes Natives and later Africans), quite literally. We did not have chattel slavery.
@apachicana You indeed had slavery. The soldiers from Tenoctitlán, as an example, in order to please the chiefs, conquered the small villages of the surroundings and brought the inhabitants of those villages to the city, in order to cut their heads and eat their hearts. However, the order was not this; they firstly took the heart and afterwards cut the head. And everything was done against their will. Maybe you´re not the right person to talk about slavery or misstreatment.
And as I said already to the previous clown: WE were NOT at "constant war", SOME Native tribes fought each other, sure, we're all human after all but those tribes never waged wars of extermination (unlike the Europeans) and if we were at "constant war" then how is it we intermarried with tribes different from our own so often? By ignoring my questions and then changing the subject is proof your only sources is that Eurocentric nonsense your fed. Try picking up a book.
@apachicana You indeed were at constant war, and the worst thing was that those wars caused as much extermination as Spanish soldiers. You again say Europeans when referring to extermination wars, and so many Euorpean cultures are so peaceful and have never had any extermination war (Greece, Poland, France, etc.). Not only should you pick up a book, but you should also learn how to read.
"You again say Europeans when referring to extermination wars"
I said European settlers so I can't possibly be talking about those who are actually in Europe and "peaceful", fool. And the French were NOT peaceful. You obviously never heard of "The French and Indian War" have you? Clearly, you have no idea about what happened to the Natives in Canada by French "Quebecers".
"Racist French tried to Stone & Kill Indians In Quebec Canada" - Youtube it & LEARN you racist pig.
@as26266 "You have no information on the tribes that could disappear before Spanish Occupation, that´s obvious."
"could" you say? You went from asserting that they did wage wars of extermination, to now claiming they "could" have. Why the change? BECAUSE YOU WERE CAUGHT IN A LIE & YOU KNOW YOU ARE WRONG. So, let's get factual shall we? Which tribes became extinct due to the direct result of my people? Go on, list em. Your word choice alone is proof of propaganda. Keep talking.
@apachicana I just said that you have no idea on it because of the very simple fact that there´s no information: they dissapeared. And, taking into account the wildness of native indian tribes, let me say that there´s nothing strange about thinking so. I´m not wrong, and I´ll keep talking against people like you, people who don´t like others expressing their opinions.
"And you should respect Bartolomé de las Casas or Hernán Cortés, people who wanted to extend fraternity and Catholic religion."
HAHA you don't have the power to tell me who I should & should not respect. But I suppose I should respect rapists, thieves & genocidalists as well right? Catholicism doesn't have anything to do with this! I couldn't give two shits about it seeing as how everyone has the right to follow their own religion without some nutcase racist harassing them for it.
"the worst thing was that those wars caused as much extermination as Spanish soldiers"
Really? Tell me, when did the Spaniards become extinct like the Taino, Mayaimi, Karankawa, Yana, Tocobaga, Guale, Potano, Timucua and many MANY more? Would you really like me to continue? You clearly don't know the meaning of the term "extermination". AGAIN, we are NOT responsible for a holocaust as your people are.
You ignored the question: AGAIN, if we were at "constant war" then how is it we intermarried with tribes different from our own so often? How is it that I am 4 nations? And once AGAIN, "WE" were NOT at "constant war", SOME Native tribes fought each other, sure, we're all human after all but those tribes NEVER waged wars of extermination (unlike the European settlers).
"And I consider it wild to justify such asasinations with honor or fake gods."
I consider your denial & intolerance of different religions awfully "wild". Correction: that would be assassinations NOT "asasinations". An assassination is a planned murder due to a suprise attack, meaning there is no consent involved as there was with sacrifice. The two are unrelated, get it straight. Lastly, that's merely YOUR opinion. They're "fake gods" simply because you claim so, is that right?
@apachicana I can´t but laugh at your correction. Are you so pathetic that, having run out of arguments, you try to oppose me by correcting my English? Hablamos en español, a ver quién lo habla mejor? Estoy más que seguro de que te doy mil vueltas en cualquier idioma. Hablo cuatro. Tú cuántos hablas? Dos? Uno? Seguro que ni siquiera hablas quechua o guaraní.
"You obviously have no idea on the reasons Europeans conquered America for."
I obviously do seeing as how I actually read the "colonizers" thoughts that came straight from their own books. AGAIN, the intentions of those European settlers is well documented in books written by those Europeans WHO WERE THERE, not by some whitewashing Eurocentric moron babbling on about propaganda instead of actually taking the time to read up on the actual facts stated in the "colonizers" diaries.
WE DON'T NEED GAYS, BLACKS, HISPANICS OR ANYOTHER PARASITES THAT DON'T LOOK AND ACT CHRISTIAN AMERICAN. WE DON'T NEED JEWS OR MUSLIMS.
MRWHITERSHADEOFPALE 2 weeks ago
@DASOUTHWILLRISE AMEN!
thakidd415 1 month ago
Stupid fag ahaha rob this Country? illegal immigrants make this country rich you think a lazy white bastard is going to pick up vegetables and fruits from a field or work minimum wage? I don't think so that's why you need to STFU because you guys don't know shit you fucking white crackers you came here to evade a long time ago and wipe off all the Native Americans and you're calling immigrants that just want a better life criminals? Don't you feel fucking stupid right now :)
thakidd415 1 month ago
@thakidd415 I come from 1000 generations of white farmers. Who the fuck do you think picked the goddamned fruit and veggies before you bean eatin' fucks starting crossing the border en masse? Hmmm?
Lazy white bastard? You little fuck, I wish you were here right now. I'd choke the fucking brown off your inbred, stupid, smelly ass. What's up with the lazy fucking mexbitches that suck the welfare system dry? What about that, dumbass?
gvman3670 1 month ago
@gvman3670 hahaha you funny lil bitch ass cracker yeah that was 1000 generations ago dumb shit what about right now? Just STFU you sound stupid ass fuck and you wouldn't do shit cracker :) I love people like you that say "I will beat your ass" or "choke me to death" because in reality you wouldn't do shit you punk ass scary bitch :)
thakidd415 1 month ago
@thakidd415 I grew up on a farm, so how's that, fuckwad? I am the FIRST generation not to own my own farm as a matter of fact. But that's the fault of the economy and agrofactories.
As for what I'd do, let's just say you wouldn't be the first mouthy punk to take a serious beating. Hell, I used to think fighting was damned sport, just like all redneck white kids. Of course, we actually fight instead of running our mouths and pulling guns and knives. Trust me, you'd be screwed, Jose.
gvman3670 1 month ago
@gvman3670 Breh idgaf bout your fam or what the fuck you did or do or used to or how much you weight or how tall you are or your fighting skills or how many "punks" you beat up or where you lived I really don't care dumb shit and Jose? Can that be my name first? You're an ignorant fuck just by thinking that's my name. I'm not an illegal but I won't let some sukah ass crackers talk shit aight? So have a great life and chill with the "internet thug" it doesn't fit you.
thakidd415 1 month ago
@gvman3670 Yes lazy bastard you lil fuck you read it right? OMG you can read D: and I thought all of you fucks fucked each others relatives my mistake LOL and for your information Welfare only supports LEGAL CITIZENS not IMMIGRANTS so before you start bull shitting make some motherfucking research first you dumb mayonnaise bitch
thakidd415 1 month ago
@thakidd415 My parents grew up 2000 miles apart, asshole. And I happen to be 6' 3" tall and 275#.....nothing little here at all, Jose. I'd rip you and your daddy in half and you wouldn't even slow me down, you tiny, smelly, bean farting panty waste.
I never said all Mexicans were illegal. But illegals need to fucking LEAVE. Mexicans or whatever. Simple, isn't it? If you aren't illegal then have a nice, tall glass of shut the fuck up, munchkin.
gvman3670 1 month ago
@gvman3670 look it up motherfucker it doesn't support an immigrant because to you dumb fuckers every Mexican is "illegal" motherfucker %30 percent of the Economy of this country is provided by immigrants learn your shit first stupid fuck!
thakidd415 1 month ago
Hear that little mexican woman ...."we were here first"
This is why they must be sent back. They do not want to become citizens of the U.S. They want to take it over and make it mexico. Out with the illegals!!
No free ride...no amnesty...no dream act!! Never!
tinaw1969 3 months ago
Dear BeanFarts...Please exit border south...and dont ever come back u pooped on America to much!!!!! you're one big FOODSTAMP...Also you plug up all the Walmarts in America....Go home poopoo beanfart! and stop farting out so many bebies
dakota7609 3 months ago
lol "we were here first"
yeah, cunt, and we conquered you 150 years ago. cry about it, bitch.
yippe kayay muthafucka!
UltraProle21 3 months ago
There are pockets of Caucasian peoples in Asia, look up the Uighur in China. Its foolish to deny that facts that Caucasian people had tribes that migrated from Europe to other regions in the far east. Caucasian people have circumnavigated the globe and have moved around on this earth MORE so than any other racial group. That cannot be denied.
youngoldbones 4 months ago
The Ainu are Caucasoid and are related to similar groups of people in Russia. Just looking at the images available on Google images of the fair skinned heavily bearded Ainu will be enough to dispel the fallacies you state here. The preponderance of body and facial hair alone puts these people well into the Caucasoid camp, as Caucasians typically have more body hair than any other racial phenotype.
youngoldbones 4 months ago
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stickygumshoes 5 months ago
@darkyperv34 What is a gumshoe but a detective? What is a dark pervert but a deviant, a depraved and debased individual? You defined yourself in choosing that name, not I. ROFL!
stickygumshoes 5 months ago
@TheStoutTeapot Angry? Who is angry? Not I! By the way, a new video examining the EVIDENCE for the predisposition of Caucasians on this continent BEFORE any of the Mongoloid racial types can be found here on YouTube if you search Racial differences and America. Even Latino Anthropologists admit to the evidence supporting Caucasians as the earliest race if man in the Americas.
youngoldbones 5 months ago
Really? Are you serious? Paper? LOFL! As IF paper was the nexus to ALL subsequent discoveries and technologies! Laugh on! Clown, you should share in the mirth you dispense. What is your race? Probably one of those indoctrinated Caucasians who like watching Anime, that strange cultural export that Portrays Caucasians rather than Asians.
youngoldbones 5 months ago
LOL comments below me. pretty sure "toshiba" is Japanese. Which is not white.
lololol white people created technology. oh you mean like paper, or gun powder? two very key elements that most other types of technology made now would not exists if not of them? and where did they come from?
CHINA. herp derp.
go on and feel proud about your skin color buddy. apparently that's all you've got going for you. otherwise you'd brag about your own accomplishments and not someone else's.
TheStoutTeapot 5 months ago
@TheStoutTeapot Toshiba is Japanese, but the technology is ours! As to my accomplishments, I am a well paid professional who had to spend his weekend scrubbing Mara Salvatrucha graffiti off my fence. Yeah, you people were modest at one time, but when you come in large numbers you show your true colors. The white race has been engaged in making everything fair for everyone, but YOU people dream of the day when you can crush us underfoot. Whose the racist? You are.
stickygumshoes 5 months ago
@stickygumshoes you mean the same technology that wouldn't be possible without paper? would our political borders be the same without the use of gun poweder? how about the millions of people who are alive today and have been saved in the past because of blood banks - something invented by a black man?
oh and what about my people? who are my people? go ahead and tell me tough guy, about my people and my culture. 8D lololol your anger and that bullshit about "your race" is a funny, funny joke.
TheStoutTeapot 5 months ago
@TheStoutTeapot are you aware of the Red Haired Caucasoid Mummies in China? Are you aware of the Ainu, the Original Caucasoid people in Japan? Obviously not. Please educate yourself, if you do so, you won't advance these silly arguments that really do nothing to further the validity of your stance.
youngoldbones 5 months ago
@youngoldbones
LMAO, you are pathetic......... the red haired mummies in China are not caucasian and the Ainu are not even caucasian.. LMAo... uneducated much... So what? The ancient Lapp of Europe are supposed to be Mongoloid???
niamtxiv 4 months ago
@niamtxiv Its you who are uninformed. The Ainu are indeed Caucasoid. They are a hated racial minority in Japan and represent the original inhabitants of the island.
youngoldbones 4 months ago
@youngoldbones
No, you are the uninformed here. Oh wait, so Indians (from India) should be white since they are caucasoid. Ainu are Australoid, not Caucasoid. The Xirong (western Chinese mummies) are not Caucasoid. I love eurocentric. lol, you do know white people are not the only people that produce blond hair. lol
niamtxiv 4 months ago
@niamtxiv The LAST thing the Ainu are Australoid. And yes, Caucasion Europeans are Indoeuropeans. You're waging a losing battle here. Go get an education.
youngoldbones 4 months ago
@youngoldbones
You haven't provided any strong facts and yet, claim I'm losing the battle here? You're the one who needs to get an education. I got my education already.
niamtxiv 4 months ago
@niamtxiv The Ainu are Caucasoid. EVERYONE knows that. Ask any Japanese citizen you flaming ass.
youngoldbones 4 months ago
@youngoldbones
Guess what? Urm No. The Ainu are Australoid. They are related to Taiwanese natives, Pacific Islanders, Maori, and so on. NOT Caucasoid. So, you're saying a Tamil is Negroid? A Lapp is Mongoloid? A blond hair Fijian is Caucasoid? You're too consume with the notion of race. You have limited understanding of the world people. I suggest you go back to school. Ask any Japanese citizen? Are you stupid? I'm half Japanese.
niamtxiv 4 months ago
poor black people. they think white people like them XD if latinos where gone. black people will be blame for everything once again. that's how it works my friend. They blame the minorities.
darkyperv34 5 months ago
WAT THE DCK> MEXiCANS TAKING JOBS FROM BLACK PEOPLE?? SINCE WHN HAVE i SEEN BLACK PEOPLE TRYING 2 LUK FOR JOBS...LMAO THATZ FUNNY!! HAHAHAHA
chicobar313 5 months ago
The Jews should go to China, both of them were mistreated in the past.
EddyJamLatino 5 months ago
Even though I'm a LEGAL Mexican, the illegal [Mexicans] can't write their own language. Mexicans are not taking jobs from Americans, your dumb Americans, they are working the jobs that Y'ALL DON'T WANT. Gays and Jews are very hostile when they talk about illegals. Not all illegals are Mexican, they are also illegal Chinese, Central American Immigrants and kept on hating on my heritage.
EddyJamLatino 5 months ago
F'n faggots!
EddyJamLatino 5 months ago
@hibyeeee2 I don't expect to hear from you again because you are no doubt at this very moment engaged in clearing all modern conveniences, created by whites, from your life. But as a parting shot just KNOW that scientsts HAVE identified Caucasoid remains older than yours in the Americas. This fact is suppressed due to "political correctness" So WHO were the invaders? YOU were. We're back now, and we're in charge! Get used to it.
stickygumshoes 6 months ago
@hibyeeee2 Are you so ignorant of the meaning of various terms as to think that the concept of "American Indian" refers to a person from the Indian Continent? Oh, but thats right written language was unknown to you before we came and schooled you! Whites BUILT this society AND the technology you now enjoy, tell you what, be true to your people and stop trespassing in OUR world, that of the Internet. Use smoke signals and your oral traditions. You have NO right to enjoy the fruits of OUR labor.
stickygumshoes 6 months ago
@stickygumshoes dude, the native Americans where happy without all that. they didn't ask for that. The tech kinda ruined our clean planet. So i doubt you should be proud white people invented that just adds to the bad karma >.> Native Americans believe in keeping mother earth save and they worship and took care of it. so don't bring tech up. cause you will lose this argument.oh, and my laptop is toshiba. so.. don't start lololol
darkyperv34 5 months ago
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stickygumshoes 5 months ago
@darkyperv34T hen EMBRACE your past! Throw away all the conveniences you have as a result of the White race! After all, if you utilize all these advances you are yourself PARTICIPATING and enriching yourself at the bad 'karma' trough! Hypocrite! BTW the white race INVENTED the technology in your "toshiba"!! The white race is the only race with BOTH the brains AND the creativity to INVENT new technology, the east only mass produces OUR work!
stickygumshoes 5 months ago
@stickygumshoes And this is why i know your racist. You have the same ideals as the nazi. The superior race huh?
darkyperv34 5 months ago
@darkyperv34 Don't even PRETEND you people aren't racist! This isn't even an issue I pay any attention to normally! But when you people wave your Mexican flags and tell US to leave our own land, then you get the horns.
la Raza, what does that mean but the RACE.
The closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values EQUAL rights under the LAW for everyone. It says: "For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing." Come legally, or don't come at all.
stickygumshoes 5 months ago
@darkyperv34 I think your screen name sums you up. What a joke you are!
stickygumshoes 5 months ago
@stickygumshoes Judging by a stupid nickname? does it mean you're so retarded that you walk around with gum on your shoe looking like a dumbass? I know you're mad, cause you an the nazi have a large resemblance of having and all white community the way you think your tech is superior, yet the Japanese have crushed you in that. You are indeed racist, i don't need anymore prove, you said it yourself when you though yourself as superior to all other races by bringing that up
darkyperv34 5 months ago
again the we were here first argument? so their argument is we lost now give back the land you mostly payed for? if that's their argument doesn't their "country need to become a tiny village again, and the ancestors of the ones they killed to get "their" land get that land back? these people have no real argument so all they say is racist, racist, no not racism, what you preach is racism "white people get out" "black people get out" their words from rallies across the nation
tigran914 6 months ago
@tigran914 Vil;lage not all of our ancestors lived in small villages. if there were Native civilizations that were more advanced than european ones back than I can only imagine how we'd be right now. You'r abcestors never bought land because any land you bought was stolen you can't buy stolen land. You didn't buy the land from us you bought it from other white people therefore you stole it.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
war againts the sistem
sistemoneonone 6 months ago
Lets tell the illegal immigrants this, "Fine, you can have all the land you lost during the Mexican-American War. You can have 'Azlan" back, but we're going to blow up every single building we've ever built. "
MandragGanon 7 months ago
geez you may have been here first but DOESNT ANYBODY LOOK AT MEXICO LOOK WHAT THEY DID ITs bad in mexico so WHY DO THEY wANNA destroy the US.....
ITS because we LET them.
marijuanag2 8 months ago
Fags, Jews and Blacks... haha! lets see who back you up when you want to fight for your rights... I sure as hell aint gonna support gay marriage... F**k you Arpaio... Burn in hell you fat piece of crap.
Nextraker 8 months ago
You go gay man fuck illegals FALL THE FUCK BACK NEW YORK STAND UP EVEN THE GAYS DONT LIKE THAT SHIT NEW YORK STAND UP
xxxlzak 9 months ago
@hibyeeee2 Ancestors of Asians, you mean the Ainu? The Ainu were the original inhabitants of Japan, and yes they were Caucasoid. A recent documentary has shown that native Americans Europeans and Asians share some genetic markers, so that pretty much validates the inclusion of a Caucasian presence in the Americas.
stickygumshoes 9 months ago
@stickygumshoes They share similar markers because we're all humans!!!! Humans have 96% in common genetically. It's like saying a german shepperd and a Chihuahua have similar dna markers of course they're both canines just like we're all humans. We're part of the same species. Every crackpot theory that has tried to claim that europeans were here first or africans were here first have always been proven false.
hibyeeee2 7 months ago
@hibyeeee2 It certainly HASN'T been proven false. Nice try. Unless you can back it up, go fish!
stickygumshoes 7 months ago
@stickygumshoes It has been proven false you try to claim europeans were here first yet the oldest skull found is a Native not a european. archeology has traced Native groups here beyond 40,000 b.c. You white supremacists just don't wanna see the truth cuz you don't wanna clean up the mess your ancestors made.
hibyeeee2 7 months ago
@hibyeeee2 Not a white supremcist. But I do follow news and scientific studies made on the various groups that have populated North America. Perhaps if you wish to be taken seriously you should too. Peoples from all over this planet have migrated from various regions since the time the world began. The land continents too used to be attached. To what right do you claim ownership of any land?
stickygumshoes 6 months ago
@stickygumshoes I do follow scientific studies that's how I know those crackpot theories are proven wrong. I read up into it. This was our home we built advanced civilizations here. We had rich cultures we have a right here cuz this was our home your people are here cuz of invasion not migration. your ancestors came here for immoral greedy evil reasons. migration is not bad but your people's invasion has only led to our demise you wanna live here you should assimilate into our
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@stickygumshoes cultures it shouldn't be the other way around. If you wanna live in China you learn a Chinese language and their customs. You wanna got to Japan you learn Japanese and learn their customs. You wanna come here to Abya Yala you learn an Indigenous language and our customs. We have a right to be here cuz before you guys came we prospered here. the same white supremacists telling us that Natives have no right to claim ownership of land are the same people telling us that
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@stickygumshoes that we don't belong here and we're illegal. who are they to say we don't belong on a part of our own continent? This is our home. White supremacists imposed their languages ideals and beliefs and now our languages and ideals are the minority which should be the majority on our land. we took nothing from you yet you all took everything from us and continue not to fix what yopur ancestors did. there' good honest white people that have tried to fix their ancetor's wrongs.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@stickygumshoes There's white people I've met who recognize what their ancestors did and support our Indigenous uprise. You all should follow their example. They are true honest good moral human beings.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@hibyeeee2 are you speaking as an American Indian? Or are you a Mexican? Mexicans have no claim to North America, whatsoever. If you want America to be like Mexico, then you are an idiot. Mexicans have very little ability to govern a nation. Thats why the Anglo Mexicans tend to be in charge.
stickygumshoes 6 months ago
@stickygumshoes I'm not speaking as an American Indian cuz my ancestors aren't from India. I'm speaking as an Indigenous person to Abya Yala (this continent). Whites have no right to claim who has the right on Indigenous land. Whether I'm a Native from Mexico, a Native of Peru, a Native of Brazil, or a Native of Guatemala I have more right to be here than any white person.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@hibyeeee2 so the fact that you're people killed other people to get this land seems to elude your mind does it? cause guess what every nation/ every people has had to kill others and "steal" land, that's how civilizations grow, that's humanity, the weaker and less technologically advanced die and lose their land that is the history of the world, what right do you have to pick and choose which is right and wrong, NONE!!!!! your ancestors killed to get land and so did mine, live with it
tigran914 6 months ago
@tigran914 My ancestors never committed the same criminal acts as your ancestors. there were fights and conflicts but never did they try to wipe out an entire people. Your ancestors drove some Natives to near extinction. Killed off languages and forced us into slavery. If you think killing, enslaving, and robbing someone of their heritage, language and home is how a civilization grows than your immoral it was disease that killed us your ancestors were not more advanced.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@hibyeeee2 morn you obviously know nothing cause yeah almost all Native Americans were trying to eliminate the villages next to them, they killed enslaved and robbed people but they destroyed the heritage, and the language
bias is a very big deal with your argument, you only care about your people(that's how most people think) but if you're going to preach about morals maybe you should be less biased than it's ok when we did it, it's never ok but as i said that's civilization
tigran914 6 months ago
@tigran914 Don't be calling me a moron when it's obvious you know nothing about native history. I'm not being biased and I'll admit anything. Id a Native nation every tried to make mine assimilate I'd be fighting against them but such a thing didn't happen. The Maya, The Mexica, The Purepecha, The Zapoteca, etc. did not just pillage slaves were usually criminals. But no they did not destroy anyone's languages or heritage. I am not saying my ancestors were perfect they are only humans but
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@tigran914 So yes I know my ancestors weren't perfect. I know of rivalries but it's a fact that they never did anything as bad as europeans have done to us. No comparison at all. Spain broke free from arab rule did anyone say "oh no just let the moors stay the spaniards aren't perfect people so it's for them to be under someone else's rule" no they got rid of the arabs.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@hibyeeee2 good example, but is the U.S. treating them like garbage NO, they come here illegally, when if they come legally no one would give 2 shits about em as long as they don't start killing people, you need to understand this the US is by no means perfect but there is a reason everyone comes here, cause when you come here as equals, like all others in the world have to do you become equal in the blind eyes of the law
tigran914 6 months ago
@tigran914 The u.s. is treating us like garbage. There telling Natives that we can't go to Native land. and this isn't the U.S. this whole continent is not the Americas it is Abya Yala. Their giving us rules on our land the u.s. government has no right to put up these colonial artificial borders the same goes for every government in this continent. I don't see how equal it is. When you come to America to get a job what do you have to speak most of the time? english.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@tigran914 what is the history being taught to us in school? American history about your european "settlers". Why is our history not being taught as a main focus or our languages. Our languages should the majority on this whole continent. Not english, not spanish, not portuguese, not french. If you all wanted to live in our lands you should have assimilated to our cultures and languages not make us assimilate to yours. And if you know the criminal acts of your ancestors then fix them
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@tigran914 by making a change today.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@hibyeeee2 sir i've had this conversation with my father MANY times, and he seems to fail to notice as you have that if this is done to one place it will be done to all places, and when done to all places cities and nations will return to being one village, this whole continent was never the land of one Indigenous persons it was the land of thousands so how your argument of this was our land can hold i will never understand because, this land didn't belong to a single village it belonged to many
tigran914 6 months ago
@tigran914 That's my point. Yes there were many Native Nations the land belonged to and it belongs to all Indigenous Nations. Although we come from different nations we are all still Natives. And if a different nation welcomes me into their land then that's all the permission I need. All Natives I have met despite being from a different nation support that in the end we are all Natives and this is Native land.
hibyeeee2 6 months ago
@hibyeeee2 any one who's being oppressed deserves to fight against their oppressors. China fought for their liberation against foreign powers. Does anyone say spain is wrong for driving out all the moors from spain who were there for 700 years?
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stickygumshoes 9 months ago
"We were here first" the woman at the end stated. NO you weren't! More and more evidence is being unearthed that proves European migration to this continent BEFORE Asian immigration over the land bridge. Check out Solutrean evidence as well as DNA of skeletal remains dating back to 15,000 years ago!
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@stickygumshoes The landbridge from asia to hear is a theory that has been proven wrong the oldest skeleton that has been found i think in brazil has been proven to be a native kennewick man.
hibyeeee2 9 months ago
@hibyeeee2 Not sure what your point is here, but there is no such thing as "a native Kennewick" there is only "THE" KENNEWICK MAN found in 1996 Kennewick Washington, the remains of which courts have found to HAVE NO LINK to Native American populations and whose remains genetically most closely resemble that of White Europeans. The remains are believed to be 15,000 years old and predate ancient Indian remains found thus far. Other findings of Ancient fossils place Europeans here first before "NA"
stickygumshoes 9 months ago
@stickygumshoes Kennewick Man was proven tobe a Paleo Indian. Damn white supremacisttried hard to pretend they were here first. The only reason why anyone claimed he was a european was cuz of his more caucasoid looking skull his dna did not resemble europeansit was his skull. And the reason why he had a caucasoid skull was cuz at that time everyone had it. Even ancient asians had that skull shape. Skulls evolved with time to the modern mongoloid shaped skull.
hibyeeee2 9 months ago
@hibyeeee2 Everyone had that skull shape at one time? Tell that to the Anthropologists who've excavated Ancient mongoloid remains. Far from being Eurocentric, scientists have bent over backwards to hand every minority an anthropological lollipop. I've seen plenty of pure bred Indians who I couldn't even tell from a Caucasian. Less so in the Southwest, put plenty in Northern U.S. And Canada. Would it be so terrible if ancient European blood is also in your heritage? Who is the racist here? You.
stickygumshoes 9 months ago
@stickygumshoes A racist is someone who claims one race is better than another. I have said no such thing. I have seen no Native that looks like a white person. it is a fact mongoloid skulls did not exist at that point in time go ahead ask an anthropologist they'll say the same. Since when have anthropologists given "minorities" "lollipops" that's horse shit All I been seeing is eurocentric people trying to claim this land.
hibyeeee2 7 months ago
@stickygumshoes I have seen good white people support our cause. People like you our a disgrace. You wanna live on out land you should have assimilated into our culture not make us assimilate to yours. And you can say 'that was a long time ago" but if you were a moral person you'd fix the mess your ancestors made. Our cultures and languages should be the main spoken ones here.
hibyeeee2 7 months ago
@stickygumshoes So yes he was a Native.
hibyeeee2 9 months ago
@hibyeeee2 I see what you mean, yes he was a native of this American continent as well as a Caucasoid with genetic links to Europeans. In other words, he had no similarity to what we commonly refer to as American "Indians" or Modern "Native Americas".
stickygumshoes 9 months ago
@stickygumshoes You are Incorrect. I heard the only thing he had in common with modern europeans was Skull shape which as I said all races had back then. I heard froma a source that he had more similarities genteicall to the Ainu and a source saying he had more in common with natives.
hibyeeee2 9 months ago
@hibyeeee2 During college my very liberal Anthropology professor described the Ainu of Japan as having been an Ancient Caucasoid people who had been forced out of their lands by Immigrants from mainland China. It is you who are incorrect. The Ainu of Japan today still bear Caucasoid features, this is why they are pretty much despised and shunned by the Japanese people, who do not take well to integration and do not wish to embrace other races.
stickygumshoes 9 months ago
@stickygumshoes He was a paleo Indian. He was our ancestor not a european ancestor.
hibyeeee2 9 months ago
@hibyeeee2 Riiiiight, cause YOU say so. I think I will trust the geneticists over your opinion. Kenewick man ISN'T the only evidence they've found.
stickygumshoes 9 months ago
@stickygumshoes Fool that eurocentric theory has been debunked. It ain't just me saying so. Geneticists seem to back my claims up. Europeans weren't hee first ge over it.
hibyeeee2 9 months ago
@hibyeeee2 You're wrong about that. There is diverse evidence to support the existence of European peoples in the Americas. One thing that can ALWAYS be said about us, we DO get around. History shows that fact even to those who try to block the truth by disparaging "Eurocentic" claims. No doubt this accounts for the fact that American Indians in the East looked nothing like the Indians of the Southwest. Of course also there is the anecdotal evidence of explorers and even the natives themselves.
stickygumshoes 9 months ago
@stickygumshoes No I'm not wrong. Your crack pot theories have been debunked.
hibyeeee2 7 months ago
@hibyeeee2 Odd that A white and a Native American can have children and bear blue eyed children? Now that can happen in just one generation. Not so with Hispanics blacks or Asians, with them it would take at least two generations of interbreeding with whites. My parents had a friend who was pure Blackfeet Indian, he married a Dutch woman and they had blue eyed kids. And yes they looked like their father too. Of course Kennewick man is an ancestor of Native Americans, but he was Caucasian too.
youngoldbones 9 months ago
@youngoldbones We're not hispanics Mexicans, Guatemalans, Salvadoreans, Bolivians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians etc are all natives. Any way if Kennewick man is considered caucasian then so are the ancestors of asians.
hibyeeee2 9 months ago
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chapulin559 9 months ago
I think that this is nothing but a whole piece of bullshit. America doesn´t belong to whites, blacks or Jews. Let me clear up that I´m not an American, and I see American citizens claiming America as theirs, when obviously indigenous people, who are the true Americans, have been discriminated and decreased to second class citizens. That fucking sheriff Joe is ITALIAN, for heaven´s sake!
as26266 10 months ago
@as26266 American's are many colors, many races, and from many peoples. But we cease to be those different things, and we become simply Americans. America is a place of diversity. But we do have laws, and those who do not respect our laws, will be punished. Sheriff Joe is a great man who is upholding the law of the land. I'm proud of him. I'm proud to be an American and I will also help to uphold the law of my land. Any who are unjust and unlawful in my land will be punished.
ShenMerrick 9 months ago
This gay dude is triiiiippping.
Guayo510 10 months ago
Why Is This Gay Man Against Illegal Immigration? When His OWN Country Wont Let Him Get Married? So Hes Saying Im Gonna Stand Up For MY Country When They Wont Stand Up For HIm? Hmm This Is My Point Of View.
LoveBieberandWayne 10 months ago 3
@LoveBieberandWayne hahaha true
MarkuPro 10 months ago
@MarkuPro Hah Yeah It Just Didnt Make Sense To Me(: Haha
LoveBieberandWayne 10 months ago
Haha, a gay who doesn't want Mexicans to cross the border. Why? Because Mexico is one of the most "Christian" countries the world has and if they invade this country (which I don't really care about with the crossing borders stuff), they'll hang this fucker and beat him like a pinhata.
Hitmonchan107 11 months ago
WE LATINOS ARE NOT RACISTS!
WE COME IN EVERY SINGLE COLOR, Black, White, Brown EVEN Yellow...
The Fujimori Family is a great example of what we LATINOS REPRESENT "DIVERSITY"!
We LATINOS keep growing in numbers and we keep growing in power!
We MUST UNITE and face these few BUT STRONG white supremacist terrorists who are destroying millions of LATINO families!
LOVE N RESPECT those GOOD WHITE AMERICANS who help poor families
LATINO PRIDE!
LATINOS FIRST, OUR FRIENDS SECOND, OUR ENEMIES LAST!
TheLatinoNation 1 year ago
Im so sick of mexicans thinking they own the southwest
parkerboggs89 1 year ago
fuck yea i'd rather have a white gay man than a greasy ugly ass mexican
parkerboggs89 1 year ago
If your gay you shouldnt even be complaining about illegal immigration!!whats next deport all gays out of the u.s. lol
mike3000gt7 1 year ago
FUckin gay guy, is just lashing out on another minority because prop 8 passed. WELL THATS WHAT YOU GET FAG [YES I WANT YOU TO BURN YOU RACIST]
erik4727 1 year ago
@SuperFilosofo69 They didn't stick around so speak English! Where do you think you are, in the bodega eating a burrito? Spanish was not the first language it was every dialect of Native Americans fool! I want to let you know that I don't say anything to people who speak a different language in front of me. I stare at them in the eyeballs until they look away, establishing my dominance. Then I like to hum the national anthem or the Air Force song, tribute to boys 106th.
1corinth1x20 1 year ago
@1corinth1x20
Your hypocrisy is laughable. That's right, Native American languages fool NOT English. This is NOT England therefore speaking English is not a requirement here.
apachicana 1 year ago
@apachicana Its called conquest. We kicked the shit out of the Native Americans and took it, then we kicked the shit out of the Mexicans and drove them off in the southwest cause we wanted it. Thats how conquest works. We kill you, you go away, we take your shit. Then we make the laws. And then they are followed by the new rulers. You idiots need to learn that the past is just that, the past. We won, WAH WAH, get the fuck over it.
ShenMerrick 1 year ago
@ShenMerrick
Everything you just said is completely irrelevant.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. We were here first and we're not going anywhere, I agree, get the fuck over it :)
apachicana 1 year ago
@apachicana How were you here first? Explain this backwards logic to me, please!
ShenMerrick 1 year ago
@ShenMerrick
I am a First Nation, you retard.
apachicana 11 months ago
@apachicana If your a "First Nation" then you have nothing to do with Illegal Immigration...so why are you even commenting? Your here, or more likely in Canada, legally. So who cares. We're talking about a bunch of illegal immigrants from Mexico and other hispanic countries. So just shut up.
ShenMerrick 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
You are a non Indigenous settler, so what the fuck do you even have an opinion for? And I ACTUALLY live in Arizona so I am a part of this. I'm commenting to reveal your sides hypocrisy. And I am tired of all this "Speak English" bullshit, this is NOT fucking England magaani and if you want to hear English only you can take your clown ass to England.
apachicana 11 months ago 3
@ShenMerrick
Why!? What kind of idiotic question is that? Because it is non Indigenous settlers who are here trying to claim power to determine who is here rightfully or not and unlike you I AM A FIRST NATION, INDIGENOUS. This land is my land, therefore I have a say what goes on in my land, that's why.
apachicana 11 months ago 7
@apachicana Well no, this isn't "YOUR" land as you put it. Its the land belonging to the United States Citizenry. It "was" your ancestors land. But they failed to hang on to it. That is all in the past and over with. IF you have the power to take it back, by force, then you can make new laws. Otherwise it has new owners now, and new law makers. You should be glad that we didn't totally genocide everyone here. If we had, you wouldn't be here to complain. The language was voted upon, its English.
ShenMerrick 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
I am my ancestors and we are still here.Try again baby boy, by definition that would be called theft, meaning taking something that does not belong to you. Anyone can steal of course however that does not make you the rightful owner of what has been stolen. Everything Hitler did was legal, the killings of innocent Native Americans (no matter if it were a man, woman, child or the elderly) was legal and owning slaves was legal, but does that make it right? Of course not.
apachicana 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
Sure, settlers can make all the "laws" they want, however if those "laws" are unjust, not all will follow them, especially those who actually Indigenous to America (unlike European descendants) and that's apparent. Like it or not Mexicans were here prior to the European invasion and they're not going anywhere. Hate it :)
apachicana 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
And no dumbass there is no official language in the United States. There have many proposals and attempts however those have all failed and nothing has ever been passed. Next time, save yourself the embarrassment and do your research before commenting me shit-for-brains. By the way, I love how threatened you feel by my words that you feel the need to tell me to "shut up"..haha typical behavior of a White Supremacist. Good to know I get to you so much :)
apachicana 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
"That is all in the past and over with."
Haha I can say the same to you. Although your side worked so hard to keep this a "Whites only" "nation" those attempts are failing. This country ain't looking so White anymore, sorry but you loose.
apachicana 11 months ago
@apachicana Okay, Mexicans did not exist before Euro's, they are product of Euro's and natives. Almost no one in this part of the world is not some level of mix. And if your mix, your the same. They're ancestry is as much European as it is Native American. And just so you know, the State Power are more important than Federal powers, and Arizona has an English-only Law. And we definitely have not tried to keep this country only white, anyone here legally is welcome! I don't care about skin.
ShenMerrick 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
FALSE. Mexicans did in fact exist before the European invasion. "Mexican" is English for "Mexica" (meh-shee-kah) a Native American TRIBE/NATION. Like I said if you are going to comment me at least do your research first or pehaps maybe you just like looking like a complete and total jackass? Haha fine by me.
apachicana 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
I will repeat, English is NOT the official language in the United States as you were claiming so anyone can speak the language they please and seeing how I am a First Nation I will speak whatever the hell I want and if you don't like tough shit. Again if you have such a big problem with it you can take your White Supremacist ass to England, then the problem will be solved.
apachicana 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
Haha keep dreaming baby boy, the DNA testings say otherwise. The majority are in fact of Native American descent. And if what you say is true then how is it that Mexico has the 2nd LARGEST Native American population in (ALL of) America? It's called demographics, brush up on that.
apachicana 11 months ago
@apachicana The funny thing is you call me a white supremacist and I have no once made this about color. I've been talking about legal vs. illegal immigration. And it doesn't matter if the United States as a nation has a national language, the states have more power than the federal government. And if the state has defined its language as over 25+ states have, then it is law in that state. And Latino is a race created by the Spanish raping the natives they found on the continent.
ShenMerrick 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
You are talking out of your ass silly child, "Latino" has nothing to do with this. I find it hilarious how every time you are proven wrong you want to change subjects. "Latino" is NOT a race and no "Latino" in it's original meaning means someone of Roman descent..Italians, Portuguese etc. Very basic shit I shouldn't have to be explaining to you.
apachicana 11 months ago
@ShenMerrick
I call you a White Supremacist because that is indeed what you are since you keep babbling on about this "English only" bullshit. THIS IS NOT FUCKING ENGLAND. Like I said your side can make all the laws they want but that does not mean people will follow them. "English only" in AZ will NEVER happen especially considering there are 21+ tribes here, something that was clearly not considered and just ignorantly ignored which just goes to show how racist your side truly is.
apachicana 11 months ago
@apachicana Here we go with the race card... If anyone is racists it's you...
lonedove1981 11 months ago
@lonedove1981
Is that all you got? Try again. Racism is a belief of superiority and by White Americans believing they have the right to claim who is here rightfully or not is a direct reflection of that belief of superiority which is indeed racism, which is exactly what you are defending. Keep talking.
apachicana 11 months ago
@apachicana We took it and we'll keep it... no ifs, ands or buts about that! I agree we took it by BS reasons and I agree that Manifest Destiny was a very racist policy but if you know history the Indians were massacring each other way before the first European arrived. The Hunkpapa Lakota Sioux started out in Minnesota, who kicked them out of Minnesota? Who did they massacre for the Black Hills? Do you condemn other Indian tribes? Look in your own backyard before you call racism!
lonedove1981 11 months ago
@lonedove1981
2. by trying to whitewash history and attempting to justify European terrorism.
"Indians" are the people of India, get it straight. Lastly, you're comparing apples to oranges. WE weren't "massacring each other" SOME Native tribes fought each other, sure, we're all human afterall but those tribes never waged wars of extermination the way the European/American governments AND we didn't sail to another continent as your people did to steal land. Keep embarrassing yourself fool.
apachicana 11 months ago
@lonedove1981
1. You're talking out of your ass, silly child. I am Ndé so get your facts straight, my tribe did not steal land from anybody. Secondly, you're contradicting yourself by saying "We took it and we'll keep it..." you are agreeing with Manifest Destiny which not only makes you racist but a hypocrite as well, which makes this second statement of yours "I agree that Manifest Destiny was a very racist policy" pure bullshit. It's funny how you're avoiding the actual issue at hand
apachicana 11 months ago
@apachicana Do you support latinos living in Arizona? I just ask it because I can´t manage to understand the ideas hidden in your statements.
as26266 10 months ago
@as26266
(1.) Try again, the people you are referring to are NOT "Aztecs", they are MEXICA. Secondly, human sacrifice was for the most part voluntary and considered an honor because they killed to please their god, not for land and pure greed like the Europeans did (and are continuing to do today might I add). Thirdly, when did any tribe in "America" kill 80-90% of a people as the Europeans did? Tell me, which tribe is responsible for an entire holocaust? Can't think of any right? Why?
apachicana 10 months ago
@apachicana And taking Europeans as a whole group is a BIG MISTAKE. Europe is a union of countries with enormous differences. Do you consider France and Spain remotely similar?
as26266 9 months ago
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@as26266
You "can´t manage to understand" because you obviously didn't read all of my comments in which I already went over all of this. Read them or don't bother responding next time.
apachicana 10 months ago
@lonedove1981
*those tribes never waged wars of extermination the way the European/American governments did
apachicana 11 months ago
@apachicana That's 100% Bullshit...
lonedove1981 11 months ago
@lonedove1981
Haha is that all you can say? You're a joke and it's good to know I leave you practically speechless.
apachicana 11 months ago
@apachicana That´s not right. As a matter of fact, Aztecs killed thousands of slaves in their rituals.
as26266 10 months ago
@as26266
(2.) Because they never waged wars of extermination. No tribe ever became extinct due to sacrifice and Mexico's indigena populations were never in danger of extinction up until the European invasion. Lastly, human sacrifice happened in Europe as well as other parts of the world so attacking one group for it is awfully foolish and ignorant of you. But if you're going to talk trash about a people at least get your facts straight, I'm not into the propaganda.
apachicana 10 months ago
@apachicana Let me inform you. When my ancestors colonised South America, they wanted to establish a friendly relationship based on exchange. But when they arrived, they saw nothing but indians eating each other, slaves being misstreated by the chiefs, and constant war between the different tribes. You have no information on the tribes that could disappear before Spanish Occupation, that´s obvious. And I consider it wild to justify such asasinations with honor or fake gods.
as26266 9 months ago
@as26266
Wow, that's quite the twisted logic you have there. You are in dire need of a reality check & a history lesson. What did the Europeans kill for? What did they kill for then & what are they killing for now? GREED AND POWER. Like I said already human sacrifice in Mexica culture was considered an honor. They killed to please their god, NOT for gold & other greedy purposes as the Europeans did. So reciting their religious practices' & your thoughts about them is ignorant & irrelevant.
apachicana 9 months ago
@apachicana You obviously have no idea on the reasons Europeans conquered America for. Isabel la Católica wanted to extend Catholic faith. And excuse me, but catholic moral based on respect and love is, as I see it, better than a fake religion which suppports assasinations and war, along with wild, tremendous rituals like eating slaves´ hearts.
as26266 9 months ago
@as26266
I was referring to the European settlers who came to our land not all Europeans. "exchange"? "friendly"? - my ass. YOUR PEOPLE CAME HERE FOR GOLD which IS greed. Claiming that they came peacefully & with good intentions is BULLSHIT. Attempting to whitewash history & the crimes of Europeans is pointless & pathetic. The intentions of those European settlers is documented by Bartoleme de las Casas & Christopher Columbus whom wrote all about it in their diaries that are now books.
apachicana 9 months ago
@apachicana" Attempting to whitewash history is pointless and pathetic". So, attempting to justify wild and unacceptably bloody rituals is equally unjustifiable. And you should respect Bartolomé de las Casas or Hernán Cortés, people who wanted to extend fraternity and Catholic religion. The means might have not been the right ones and I accept that murder was done. However, it´s the same blood that was spoilt in Aztec rituals.
as26266 9 months ago
@as26266
"they saw nothing but indians eating each other, slaves being misstreated by the chiefs, and constant war between the different tribes."
Care to elaborate since you apparently seem to think you know it all? What tribes "ate each other"? Funny you should bring slaves up when it is YOUR own people whom owned thousands of slaves and beat the shit out of the people who disobeyed and resisted (which includes Natives and later Africans), quite literally. We did not have chattel slavery.
apachicana 9 months ago
@apachicana You indeed had slavery. The soldiers from Tenoctitlán, as an example, in order to please the chiefs, conquered the small villages of the surroundings and brought the inhabitants of those villages to the city, in order to cut their heads and eat their hearts. However, the order was not this; they firstly took the heart and afterwards cut the head. And everything was done against their will. Maybe you´re not the right person to talk about slavery or misstreatment.
as26266 9 months ago
@as26266
And as I said already to the previous clown: WE were NOT at "constant war", SOME Native tribes fought each other, sure, we're all human after all but those tribes never waged wars of extermination (unlike the Europeans) and if we were at "constant war" then how is it we intermarried with tribes different from our own so often? By ignoring my questions and then changing the subject is proof your only sources is that Eurocentric nonsense your fed. Try picking up a book.
apachicana 9 months ago
@apachicana You indeed were at constant war, and the worst thing was that those wars caused as much extermination as Spanish soldiers. You again say Europeans when referring to extermination wars, and so many Euorpean cultures are so peaceful and have never had any extermination war (Greece, Poland, France, etc.). Not only should you pick up a book, but you should also learn how to read.
as26266 9 months ago
@as26266
"You again say Europeans when referring to extermination wars"
I said European settlers so I can't possibly be talking about those who are actually in Europe and "peaceful", fool. And the French were NOT peaceful. You obviously never heard of "The French and Indian War" have you? Clearly, you have no idea about what happened to the Natives in Canada by French "Quebecers".
"Racist French tried to Stone & Kill Indians In Quebec Canada" - Youtube it & LEARN you racist pig.
apachicana 9 months ago
@apachicana I´ve no time to answer to you now. I´ll continue later.
as26266 9 months ago
@as26266 "You have no information on the tribes that could disappear before Spanish Occupation, that´s obvious."
"could" you say? You went from asserting that they did wage wars of extermination, to now claiming they "could" have. Why the change? BECAUSE YOU WERE CAUGHT IN A LIE & YOU KNOW YOU ARE WRONG. So, let's get factual shall we? Which tribes became extinct due to the direct result of my people? Go on, list em. Your word choice alone is proof of propaganda. Keep talking.
apachicana 9 months ago
@apachicana I just said that you have no idea on it because of the very simple fact that there´s no information: they dissapeared. And, taking into account the wildness of native indian tribes, let me say that there´s nothing strange about thinking so. I´m not wrong, and I´ll keep talking against people like you, people who don´t like others expressing their opinions.
as26266 9 months ago
@as26266
"And you should respect Bartolomé de las Casas or Hernán Cortés, people who wanted to extend fraternity and Catholic religion."
HAHA you don't have the power to tell me who I should & should not respect. But I suppose I should respect rapists, thieves & genocidalists as well right? Catholicism doesn't have anything to do with this! I couldn't give two shits about it seeing as how everyone has the right to follow their own religion without some nutcase racist harassing them for it.
apachicana 9 months ago
@as26266
"the worst thing was that those wars caused as much extermination as Spanish soldiers"
Really? Tell me, when did the Spaniards become extinct like the Taino, Mayaimi, Karankawa, Yana, Tocobaga, Guale, Potano, Timucua and many MANY more? Would you really like me to continue? You clearly don't know the meaning of the term "extermination". AGAIN, we are NOT responsible for a holocaust as your people are.
apachicana 9 months ago
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@as26266
"You indeed were at constant war"
You ignored the question: AGAIN, if we were at "constant war" then how is it we intermarried with tribes different from our own so often? How is it that I am 4 nations? And once AGAIN, "WE" were NOT at "constant war", SOME Native tribes fought each other, sure, we're all human after all but those tribes NEVER waged wars of extermination (unlike the European settlers).
apachicana 9 months ago 2
@as26266
"And I consider it wild to justify such asasinations with honor or fake gods."
I consider your denial & intolerance of different religions awfully "wild". Correction: that would be assassinations NOT "asasinations". An assassination is a planned murder due to a suprise attack, meaning there is no consent involved as there was with sacrifice. The two are unrelated, get it straight. Lastly, that's merely YOUR opinion. They're "fake gods" simply because you claim so, is that right?
apachicana 9 months ago
@apachicana I can´t but laugh at your correction. Are you so pathetic that, having run out of arguments, you try to oppose me by correcting my English? Hablamos en español, a ver quién lo habla mejor? Estoy más que seguro de que te doy mil vueltas en cualquier idioma. Hablo cuatro. Tú cuántos hablas? Dos? Uno? Seguro que ni siquiera hablas quechua o guaraní.
as26266 9 months ago
@as26266
"You obviously have no idea on the reasons Europeans conquered America for."
I obviously do seeing as how I actually read the "colonizers" thoughts that came straight from their own books. AGAIN, the intentions of those European settlers is well documented in books written by those Europeans WHO WERE THERE, not by some whitewashing Eurocentric moron babbling on about propaganda instead of actually taking the time to read up on the actual facts stated in the "colonizers" diaries.
apachicana 9 months ago