@Xiaoization So if you "dwell" on psychology (and, btw, I never claimed to be an "expert" on the subject), then you must be even more mentally disturbed than any typical mental patient.
Hell, you might even be a mental patient in an asylum who has been given some access to the internet!
@Xiaoization You know nothing about "analysis" and "explanation." That is why you are delusional about having done things you actually haven't done in reality.
You type grammatical gibberish, first make a silly generalization, then try to defend it, then try to alter your initial argument, then try to again justify generalization by utilizing false analogy...and up until yesterday you were convinced that Sudan was in Middle East.
As if this was not enough, you just make weird comments.
@Xiaoization Psychology certainly isn't my subject. But I know enough to see how you suffer from projection and delusions. One is not required to be a qualified psychologist to see your pathetic mental state.
@Xiaoization IDIOT, you were talking about Islamic countries of the MIDDLE EAST. And you included in the list Sudan!! Conclusion: you committed a SILLY and EMBARRASSING error of fact.
The Sudan being in the Middle East was not your "main point" still does not alter this fact: that you committed an EMBARRASSING ERROR.
Just accept your mistake rather than playing games over and over again because that makes you appear more and more like a, well, RETARDED!
"and Who Lack Knowledge of this Whole Subject Even Grammar For that Matter?"
It is absolutely ironic that the one who produced the above grammatical nonsense (and regular grammatical gibberish in all his comments) actually has the audacity to give lectures on grammar and insist he writes using good grammar!
Even more amazing is the delusional state of mind of this retard!
@Xiaoization I have replied to your explanation. u are too much of an IDIOT to comprehend it: the fact that u committed a "you too" through your generalization still means that BOTH u and JFA are wrong. Period.
The fact u cannot comprehend this is simply indicative of u being a RETARD.
And I didn't accuse you of making "words" up. I did erroneously make this claim pertaining to only one word. I admitted my error straightaway. At least I am intelligent enough to know that Sudan is in Africa!
@Xiaoization aww...as Shakespeare said, "The lady doth protest too much..." And just in case you are confused, Shakespeare was not from Sudan.
You are here simply because you are an idiot, who suffers from grandiose delusions about himself and who has a seriously projection problem. That's all.
Anyone here can see you write like a retard, that you happen to be a bigot nazi moron, and an idiot par excellence who just goes on and on like a clown...PATHETIC.
@Xiaoization MORON, it would be grammatically nonsense for anyone familiar with elementary English grammar. If you had inserted the above NONSENSE in an English exam paper, you would be getting a big F.
It is BECAUSE you are a COMMON IDIOT that you belligerently insist that the above OBVIOUS GRAMMATICAL NONSENSE is a "valid" and grammatically "correct" sentence.
This is similar to the time when you made use of a blatantly false analogy yet moronically kept insisting you did the right thing
@Xiaoization "And for the Record You dont Wright better than me."
Well, I use your own record to disprove your claim. It is "write" and not "wright."
So yeah, I DO write better than u. It's like one of those unbreakable laws of physics. Just live with it
Again we witness ur projection tendency. U just typed a silly sentence, you don't know when a word does not begin with capitals, and ur posts are littered with incoherent sentences, yet u have convinced yourself that I am the one doing this!
@Xiaoization MORON, it would be grammatically nonsense for anyone familiar with elementary English grammar. If you had inserted the above NONSENSE in an English exam paper, you would be getting a big F.
It is BECAUSE you are a COMMON IDIOT that you belligerently insist that the above OBVIOUS GRAMMATICAL NONSENSE is a "valid" and grammatically "correct" sentence.
This is similar to the time when you made use of a blatantly false analogy yet moronically kept insisting you did the right thing
@Xiaoization let us "analyse" your argument. u reply to my posts because you have fun doing so and others can see it. Well, we see u often posting a plethora of improperly written sentences, as if a 5 year old RETARD is typing, we see u even posting with capitals as if you are screaming in front of ur monitor, and we see u making blunders upon blunders (false analogy, u name it). It just ain't working...sorry! LOL
To correct you: I bashing u and making fun of you ... LIVE WITH IT SUCKER LOL :P
@Xiaoization Dude, it ain't working. That u had to type in capitals shows how frustrated u are, which means you aren't having fun at all. You are angry, frustrated, and just don't know what to do...hence your gibberish sentences.
In contrast, I am having fun replying to your RETARDED comments. I come here for a few minutes hoping to see your new comments, spend some minutes replying and laughing...haha...It's so fun for me to make fun of you...RETARD LOL.
@Xiaoization yeah, IGNORANT people like YOU... got it?
Who lacks knowledge of grammar? It is the dude who writes:
"and you call you self Dicently Educated."
The above is YOU haha...!
Yeah, we all make grammatical mistakes. I do too. But, overall, I write MUCH MORE GRAMMATICALLY ACCURATELY than you...that's a FACT.
And look, again, you are suffering from PROJECTION. We can all see you write like a RETARD and make countless SILLY errors. yet you accuse me of writing the way you write! LOL!
@Xiaoization Moron SHIT FACE, all you can do now is type incoherent nonsense and just give lectures on psychology...are you a first year psychology student who is consistently failing exams? I am sure your knowledge fares no better than your awareness about where such a well known country as Sudan is located LOL
Keep waffling...no time to waste on your NAZI SHIT FACE LOL
@Xiaoization LOL...the fact you are desperately reduced to the point of projection and copying my lines is only indicative of the fact that yours is the DEEPEST GRAVE in the world...deeper than the Mariana Trench! LOL
@Xiaoization shit head, I don't need to "reference" anything about your tendency of projection and, MORON, I did not refer to any "particular study" about "projection disorder." I simply (correctly) observed that YOU suffer from projection and I submitted examples of that. Period. LOL...you are so RETARDED that your SHIT HEAD couldn't even comprehend this simple discussion LOL
And "abnormal psychology", well, I guess YOU suffer from that too! LOL
@Xiaoization yeah, I made one error and it did backfire. Drool in it all u want. Dude, u RETARD, u didn't know what continent Sudan is situated at! That is a dozen times MORE PATHETIC!
And, u made a silly generalized comment about a billion plus people. How RETARDED is that?
Not to mention ur stupid use of false analogy and desperate attempts to change your original assertion.
I mean wow...you are PATHETIC. My one mistake matters not. But your MULTIPLE MISTAKES should make u jump in a pond!
@Xiaoization Let's look at your comment, "Any psychologist or students of such. " - this is a RETARDED sentence. It is broken and grammatically nonsense. I guess this is what u meant by "irrelevant phrases?"
And yes, I did make one mistake: not knowing about the word "analysation." Well, BOOHOO...big deal. I can live with it. At least I do not have to live with your mistake: Sudan is in Middle East. (not to mention ur other atrocious mistakes).
as I said, it is just not working. Sorry. Your delusions that I posted comments "full of" "irrelevant" phrases is just way too desperate...can't you be more creative? Just read your comments before you type them, you type like a fucking retard, in broken English, atrocious grammar etc.
At least I can type much better than you...so you remain a LOOSER.
@Xiaoization You have been continuously whining like a baby. And now you have convinced yourself that I was. ANOTHER PROOF OF YOUR PROJECTION TENDENCY lol.
And please, it ain't working. Do not just copy my objections and foolishly reverse them upon me, because it makes you look more and more pathetic.
U are a weasel who whines, changes his arguments, makes factually erroneous comments over and over again...just accept it. LOL
U have "explained" nothing. U only waffled around.
@Xiaoization Stop talking about "analyse my comments." U have done NO "analysis" here. I, in contrast, exposed you big time. LOL
And I did not have to look up Frued to know you suffered from PROJECTION DISORDER. Unlike you, I am decently educated so knew about projection. It is so so clear from your comments that you suffer BIG TIME from projection and I showed how...
@Xiaoization You didn't write any "accurate depictions." You just got one thing right: analysation. All the rest what you typed was IGNORANT BULL CRAP.
As for name calling, STOP LYING. You started the name calling and I hit you back with the same favor. If you had written politely, I too would have replied politely. But when you got nasty, well I repaid you by your own medicine.
@Xiaoization RETARD, anyone who reads this will conclude u are a looser who got his ass whipped when he tried to post hate comments ...I LOVE to bash up hate mongers, whether Muslims or non-Muslims.
I definitely am an opportunist, but one who preys on LOOSER HATE MONGERS and total BAFOONS like yourself.
And now again we have your DELUSIONS. I know MORE ABOUT society and individuals (and geography!) than you...LOOSER :LOL
I do have the right to lecture IGNORANT people like YOU.
@Xiaoization Or are u now changing ur argument? Do u realize that planets and people/communities are DIFFERENT and not one and the same?
Do u agree or disagree that it is WRONG to make a blatant generalization about groups of people and communities, particularly ones numbering a BILLION PLUS?
If u hit back with "yeah I agree," then ur defense of use of generalization in this discussion CRUMBLES TO DUST.
Are u getting any of this? Seriously, have u even heard the term "false analogy" before?
@Xiaoization you STUPID RETARD, I am talking about "false analogy" and not "sociology." You AGREED above that you simply hit back with a generalization about Muslims because JFA had made a generalization earlier on. My position is that BOTH of you are wrong. And when you then introduced the use of generalization in arguments pertaining to science (shape of earth etc), I stated you cannot make the same sort of generalization here...
So my position is crystal clear. You are the one who, like a SHIT HEAD LOOSER, is changing his position and suffers from grandiose DELUSIONS about his (non-existent) intelligence!
@Xiaoization "you Cant* even analyse your own Situation."
LOL...your psychological condition of PROJECTION is getting worse and worse. How pathetic...no wonder you are known by all as a LOOSER! LOL
I don't need to "analyse" my "situation" as I am very clear on it: 1. you were wrong to make a generalization (as was JFA) and I was CORRECT to correct the two of you. 2. I was right when I educated you about Sudan being in Africa. 3. I was right about educating you on "false analogy."
@Xiaoization Now your second LIE: " theres no point covering up your tracks." - Response: LIAR, I didn't "cover" any of my tracks. ONLY YOU TRIED TO FOOLISHLY COVER YOUR TRACKS:
After being exposed and cornered over your silly generalization, the cover up attempt of changing your original assertion.
There we go! This is additional proof that you suffer from PROJECTION.
You changed your stance, then lied about it, then lied again my accusing me of "covering tracks." LIAR LOOSER.
LOL. hehe...how DELUSIONAL! Let us *analyse* this: since I opposed you, you have learnt that Sudan is an African country, that generalizations about a people is wrong, that false analogy is a poor method of argumentation as you cannot just FOOLISHLY apply science based generalization upon a totally different subject etc etc
So u have lost MULTIPLE TIMES already.... fact u cannot see this only means: U R A LOOSER
"well arent you doing the samething with your "Sudan is not an Arab country" Dance?"
Response: I DIDN'T say Sudan is not an "Arab" country; I said it is not a Middle-Eastern country!! LOL I mean jee...what type of a LOOSER are you dude? Seriously?
There certainly are many many many Arabs in Sudan. But, Sudan is an AFRICAN COUNTRY.
Africa is not located within the Middle East. It is a DIFFERENT CONTINENT altogether.
@Xiaoization Hence my conclusion: YOU ARE A LOOSER AND A RETARD LOL.
I fucking HATE IDIOTS like yourself.
Keep the psycho babble to yourself RETARD. You are in no position to deliver lectures here when you thought a day ago that Sudan was in the Middle East LOL
@Xiaoization Talk about psychology, I believe you suffer from a serious PROJECTION DISORDER. That is, attribute YOUR OWN undesired traits upon others.
Example: you are convinced you know "far more" than me. This despite the fact you did not know Sudan was an African country, despite the fact you used false analogy, despite the fact you usually type in broken incoherent English LOL
@Xiaoization and it is ironic that you speak about "analysing sentences" because you do not even know the difference between an argument and an assertion. And I am sure you know nothing about analysis in argumentation. Thus your silly childish diatribe.
You are a total waste of time and waste of space.
All hate mongers, whether Muslims or non-Muslims, suffer from delusions. They talk about "analysis" while they conduct none themselves. They think they are "smart" while the indulge in rhetoric
@Xiaoization I am in a very good position to lecture you. And, shit head, stop talking about "academics" when you believed - prior to me educating you - that Sudan was in the Middle East.
Grammar wise, I write much better than you. You can only copy and paste me or copy and paste from the internet. You did not even know of a book on logical argumentation. I named you a book on the subject. A book which I possess :)
Look, u do not even know how to argue. You have the mind of a 5 year old kid.
@Xiaoization So you know a lot about chasing tails, I suppose that I cos you come from a family of retarded dogs who molest monkies LOL :)
Let us see your lecture on Sudan being in the Middle East :) I can live with my error of "analysation" - that is all you can really get back to me on. You, on the other hand, being a DOG LOOSER SHIT HEAD LOL blurted out:
Sudan is in the Middle East
LIED and tried to change your original generalization
@Xiaoization u still do not answer my question: "SO WHAT if Muslims "claim" countries where they happen to be MAJORITIES???!"
Let me use this CORRECT analogy: If an American citizen claims that America is his/her country, would u object and blurt out like a MORON, "ooooh, evil American laying a claim upon his/her country, America!" what FUCKING SENSE does it make to state that Muslims lay claims on Sudan, SA etc - countries where THEY ARE MAJORITIES?
@Xiaoization RETARD, you STUPID RETARD, your ORIGINAL comment, AS YOU HAVE ADMITTED, was a generalization as it included ALL Muslims - no exceptions. You have ADMITTED so many many times above that you were indeed making a generalization.
It is only LATER, when CORNERED, that you began CHANGING your original claim.
DO YOU GET IT NOW?
YOU SHIT FUCK FACE ASS HOLE RETARD, DO YOU GET IT NOW?
@Xiaoization You IDIOT you still aren't getting the point. You began with a SILLY GENERALIZATION. When cornered, you began changing your initial claim by introducing caveats such as "some" and "certain percentage" etc. Then you insisted you weren't changing your initial claim. At this point I CORRECTLY labeled you a LIAR.
There was no talk of "certain percentage of Muslims" or "some" in your ORIGINAL assertion.
Do you get it now? Or is there too much shit in your shit head?
@Xiaoization More NONSENSE from you: Sudan is NOT in the Middle East. Period. There is NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO MAKE SUDAN IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THE LAWS OF PHYSICS DO NOT ALLOW THIS! Get over it...it ain't working!
Middle East is no "reference" to Sudan being there...ASS HOLE!
No one in any "field" (unless of course they are LOOSERS like you) states Sudan = Middle East.
WHATEVER your main purpose, you committed an ERROR OF FACT.
This is why u are a RETARD, the continued defense of your ERRORS
@Xiaoization In the world of academics, Sudan is not in the Middle East. And in the world of academics, we do not hear NONSENSE along the lines of "oh jee, evil Mooslims laying claim on Iran, SA, Sudan" etc.
@Xiaoization SHIT HEAD, u LIED and all can see that. You began with a SILLY generalization, then u began changing your initial assertion. And, being awfully confused, u subsequently offered a FALSE ANALOGY.
Everyone can read ur retarded comments above do dont play games.
Talk about credibility, I EASILY have more credibility than a MORON who says Sudan is in the Middle East and one who uses FALSE ANALOGY. LOL.
@Xiaoization it is indeed absolutely fucking simple, if only a RETARD would get it: people, societies, communities are NOT planets. Generalizations in a science related discussion and in discussions about people are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. What may be acceptable in one may not necessarily be acceptable in another.
And I am so tempted to copy and paste your comments about 1. SUDAN IS IN MIDDLE-EAST; 2. HATE-FILLED retarded generalization about Muslims; 3. Stupidly using FALSE ANALOGY etc etc
@Xiaoization So from generalisations you have progressed to what is known as FALSE ANALOGY.
Our discussion is about people and communities and NOT the shape of the earth. You MAY get away with using generalizations in science and debates with young earth creationists and in discussions about the universe etc, but making BLATANT generalizations about PEOPLE only make you HATE-FILLED BIGOT and a RETARD.
Stop mixing people, communities and societies with PLANETS... the two are DIFFERENT!
let me get this straight, 1. generalization is a way of taing the piss out of somebody else. 2. Conclusion: generalization is right? ERRRR WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You still LOSE!
Here is what happened: JFA generalized. You got angry and decided to hit back with your own MORONIC generalization about Muslims - making a rash comment about a community numbering 1 BILLION PLUS, with numerous views on theology and politics shared by them.
@Xiaoization yeah, so you generalized because the other guy generalized. This means, BOTH YOU AND THE OTHER GUY ARE WRONG, right? Then what the F are you bickering with me about?
Do you agree or disagree that your generalization was erroneous and ignorant just as JFA's generalization was ignorant and wrong?
So then, your generalization like JFA's generalization is FALSE and wrong.
You wrote: "a certain percentage of muslims who proposed the globalization of sharia law..."
Later, you wrote: "some Muslims actually try to claim and propose to claim other countries"
RIGHT HERE we see you changing your initial assertion. Initially u didn't mention "some" Muslims or "certain percentage" of Muslims. U introduced these caveats only LATER when cornered once you realized your foolish excuses weren't working.
Have some self-respect and STOP LYING outta your ass
1. You began with this initial claim: "muslims are rooting for the Globalization of Sharia and islamisation of every state in this world." This IS a generalized FAULTY *assertion*.
2. First you attempted to justify this using the "you too" fallacy when you wrote, "what i did was just used JFA's logic againt him or her."
3. Then you began CHANGING your initial hard generalization to make it "acceptable."
@Xiaoization sure, I did not know "analysation." i guess I shouldn't blame you for not knowing in all these years that Sudan, which is often in the news, is an African and not a "Middle Eastern" country. While I am at it, I shouldn't blame you either for not quite knowing what "analysis," "arguments" and "assertions" mean. And yeah, I shouldn't blame you for initially making a SILLY generalization about Muslims and later FOOLISHLY changing your argument.
@Xiaoization And you still repeat a FOOLISH comment: Iran, Sudan, SA etc ARE Muslim majority countries. They have been so for many many centuries. What "logic" is there behind Muslims "claiming" them WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE THEM??? And SO WHAT if Muslims "claim" countries where they happen to be MAJORITIES???!
@Xiaoization yeah right, you added Sudan as an "example" of a country in the MIDDLE EAST!! Shit head! LOL
"Analysation" I can understand, but only a LOOSER is expected to seriously believe that Sudan is located in the Middle East. Oh and, just to help you out more, Africa is not located in the Middle East. It is an entirely different continent. Do you know what a continent is?
@Xiaoization SHIT FACE, so yeah, I got "analysation" wrong. What did you get wrong? Let's see: 1. initial generalization about Muslims; 2. FOOLISH attempt to change your original assertion; 3. not knowing difference between "argument," "assertion" and "analysis"; 4. saying African country Sudan is in "Middle east".
So my 1 (one) error versus your: 4 errors...FOUR errors.
Conclusion: U THE RETARD, SHITFACE IDIOT lol :P
I can live with my little tiny error...but you should jump in a pond you MORON
@Xiaoization hey there RETARD boy... it is funny how u desperately change your original GENERALIZATION. So yeah, you got the "analysation" word right...big deal...let's look at what you got wrong: "Sudan is in Middle East" and, of course, your initial generalization and the subsequent FOOLISH attempt to CHANGE your original erroneous assertion.
And now your new gems: "restricted code of grammar" haha...LOL. Ok, if it makes you feel better retard boy :) lol
@Xiaoization "entry book on arguements?" Here is an *introductory* book on logical argumentation for u: Tracy Bowell, Gary Kemp, "Critical Thinking: A Concise Guide," 2nd Edition, 2002, New York: Routledge. READ IT; it will save you from making words up such as "analysation."
Only if someone is exceptionally DUMB - a RETARD - who thinks "analysation" is a word, doesn't know the difference between "argument," "assertion," and "analysis," only such a FOOL would side with u. LOSER. :) lol
@Xiaoization so you need to get out of your delusions. Anyone with basic commonsense and who knows the difference between "argument" and "assertion" and who knows that "analysation" is NO WORD, can see YOU are a loser here with a capital L. Stop embarassing yourself over and over again and stop making words up. Check an atlas so you know which countries are located in the Middle East and try to use a dictionary now and then just so you do not make new words/terms up.
@Xiaoization look, u obviously do not know the meaning of terms such as "argument," "conclusion," "evaluation," "analysis." So do not use them and "analysation" is not even a word!
u began by making a hard generalized *assertion* (which is different from an *argument*). Once cornered, u decided to change ur initial assertion. u then presented bloopers: Sudan is a Middle Eastern country and the classic, "analysation." Having presented no *argument*, you still convinced u presented "arguments."
@Xiaoization And Sudan is not in the middle-east, btw. It is an African country. "Muslims" (as if "all" of them) do not "claim" these countries. That is because these are MUSLIM MAJORITY countries and have been so for well over 1000 years. So there is no question of "claiming" them.
@Xiaoization You were not stating any "argument." You merely offered a generalized conclusion (an assertion), lacking an argument. My objection is that BOTH you and JFA were indulged in generalizations. That's all. As for your REVISED assertion that "some" fundamentalist Muslims want Islamisation of Europe etc, then I AGREE. This NEW assertion of yours is accurate. It was only your initial generalized statement to which I rightfully objected.
@Xiaoization SO WHAT if "some" fundamentalist Muslims want to have other lands conquered and Islamisation of GB, Denmark etc? There r also SOME Hindus and who want Hindutva adopted in India upon all communities and SOME crazy Christians who want Europe to be Christianized and to kick out all non-whites. SO WHAT? Every community and religious group has extremists among them. Generally speaking, Muslims do not talk about conquering of "islamising" Europe etc. They tend to be peaceful citizens.
@Xiaoization you desperately try to alter your original position. You began with a hard generalization, "your fellow muslims are rooting for the Globalization of Sharia and islamisation of every state in this world." When you were cornered, you began changing your position. u did not talk about "some" Muslims, but now u say u were talking about "some" Muslims! :) There is no problem if you admit you were originally wrong. It is just funny how you now desperately try to wiggle out.
@Xiaoization More retardness from you: "i generalized an argument which in some level is accurate..." I mean, what da? Correction: you made a wholesale clear cut generalized assertion. It is not that the case that it was "in some level" generalized; it was FULLY generalized and silly to say the least. You weren't talking about a "certain level of percentage" of Muslims but about "Muslims" - no exceptions. Period. Just admit your mistake instead of digging a deeper grave for yourself.
@Xiaoization thus, I RIGHTLY criticized you both. And you add to the absurdity by demanding I "analyse" and "evaluate" your unanalysed and unevaluated retarded generalized conclusion, which you admit was no more than a reversal of JFA's "logic" upon him...and you have the audacity to insist you are not to be viewed as an idiot!
@Xiaoization lol, when you made this retarded generalization, "your fellow muslims are rooting for the Globalization of Sharia and islamisation of every state in this world" WHAT was the "argument" and the "analysis" you presented to reach this silly conclusion? NONE. You just made a silly generalized comment. Period. You even agreed to this much when you wrote: "what i did was just used JFA's logic againt him." So, if JFA was wrong in his logic, then YOU TOO were wrong!
@Xiaoization Why "but in?" Because people here are free to comment and respond to anyone's comments. That's why. Got it? And "butting in" does not follow I am somehow "responsible" for someone else's comment. Got it? Elementary logic. Hence my advice: read an introductory book on logical argumentation before posting silly comments.
Conclusion, BOTH you and JFA are wrong and simpletons who like making generalizations.
@Xiaoization So no, it is not my "cognitive thinking" which failed. You just do not know how to make logical arguments. I read, analysed, and correctly critiqued. You need to read an introductory book on logic and reasoning in argumentation (same advice for JFA as well).
You certainly do come across as an idiot if you foolishly ask my why JFA made certain comments (as if I had something to do with it) and when you then try to justify your own errors in a desperate manner.
@Xiaoization Just to make it clear, I am not JFA's daddy or his boss. I am not responsible for his ignorant statements, just as I am not responsible for your ignorant statements. So why ask me why he made such and such a comment? I stated clearly he was wrong and I also stated you were wrong. I spoke against BOTH of you. Now because he is wrong, that does not justify your later erroneous generalization. You replied to his erroneous comments by introducing your own hate-filled generalizations.
@Xiaoization you are both indulged in ignorant generalizations. JFA would have us believe that developed countries "rule" the third world and you would have us believe that monolithic Muslims (there are over 1 billion of them with diverse views and range of opinions) are "rooting" for Shariah and "Islamisation" of "every state" in the world. Both of you are extreme in your views and simpletons. It is just that you are operating at different ends of extremism.
Islam grows fast because they have a lot of kids, and they immigrate a lot. Why do they immigrate? Because their country sucks. Countries where the majority are muslims (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc,) suck. They are very ignorant and do not move forward very fast as a civilization. France, Germany, Canada, Sweden, etc are MUCH better. But with immigration, you guys plan to turn them into places like Saudi Arabia. Is my statement false in ANY way whatsoever?
@Transfectingood Those are really retarded thoughts. Islam grows not only because Muslims are predominantly a young population, but also due to conversions. Immigration just shifts populations; it does not make it "grow." Christians in third world countries immigrate A LOT as well, as do Hindus and others. While many Muslim countries are backwards, quality of life is good in some as well (Saudi, Malaysia, Moroco). You are just making hard generalizations and presenting stereotypes.
@tipusultan007 They are not retarded thoughts you just have trouble understanding. Immigration doesn't by itself cause increase, that's why I said multiply and immigrate like crazy, they grow quickly and spread around quickly. Conversions account for some but if you go on wikipedia it is mainly the "conversion" or ignorant children (multiplying quickly) who never had the chance to learn other religions. Saudi has somewhat ok quality of life...if you're a STRAIGHT MALE ONLY
@Transfectingood They are retarded thoughts when you make hard hate-filled generalizations and sweeping comments about societies and nations, about which you probably know nothing first hand. I certainly have trouble "understanding" your thoughts because they are retarded by default. Just look at the sneer and hate in your above comments. I wonder how this is different from the hate spewed by Aafia and company? Wikipedia is no justification for your bigotry nor an "authority" on the subject.
@tipusultan007 Wikipedia is no justification? So what is, you? The fact is, if people of a certain lifestyle (to put it more politically correct for you) have a much higher birth rate than those without it, and if such people have a high immigration rate, then the countries they immigrate to will become more and more like the one they came from. Turning European countries into Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is not a good idea in anyone's opinion.
@Transfectingood Neither I NOR wikipedia! can't you get something so simple? Namely, no justification for hate. Period. What do you know about immigration patterns besides your Hitler hypothesis on migration? UK, USA, particularly the latter, have rich history of immigration. They have NOT become like the countries from which people are migrating from. You just offered a travesty of logic! No European country is transforming into any Muslim majority nation...stop getting high on crack.
@Transfectingood your hate is clear from comments such as "they grow quickly and spread around quickly." Sounds eerily similar to a sermon given by Hitler about the Jewish people in which the latter are portrayed as a disease and sub-humans. Would you dare talk this way about the growing Hindu population, the growing/booming Christian population in third world countries? NO. Have you had a chance to learn about other religions? NO. Majority of people DO NOT know too much about other religions.
@tipusultan007 I would talk about Christians that way just fine, but they are not growing the way Islam is. People in India are having too many damn kids too but at least Hindu's are less forceful of their beliefs upon others.
@Transfectingood No you would not and you have not spoken about Christians in that way. In the UK, for example, Hindu immigration from India is as high as that of any other group. In India Hindus are a booming people. Christians in Africa and Asia are also a booming population and many immigrate to Europe and North America. It is not just Muslims. You just imagined these aren't booming the way many Muslim populations are just because u do not want that to be true!
@Transfectingood Hindus are "less" forceful"? You are MASSIVELY IGNORANT! They kill THOUSANDS (Christians, Muslims and lower caste fellow hindus) in riots and pogroms EVERY YEAR. In Gujrat they raped, killed and hacked innocent women and children. This happens commonly in India. Of course, overwhelming majority of Hindus are peaceful...just as overwhelming majorities of ALL communities are peaceful. Hate-filled BIGOTS like you are minorities in your own communities and countries. Good for all.
@tipusultan007 You are looking at simple things. I'm speaking more as if their religion came to 90% of a population. If hindu's ruled the world, we'd be a bunch of idiots drinking mouse crap and all that stuff. But at least they don't hate gay people and not allow women to walk alone and kill if you don't marry a 70 year old and all that ignorant shit.
@Transfectingood How do you know "Hindus" do not "hate" gay people? I know a few personally who are Barhamins and who do dislike gay people and homosexual lifestyle. Conclusion: oh all Hindus hate gays! NO NO NO... u make hard generalizations about Muslims as if they are sub-humans, speaking about them as if they are insects, and then u say Hindus do not hate gays as if u know all the millions of hindus!
@Transfectingood Do you know there are millions and millions of Hindus in the globe? How can you be sure some among them do not dislike gays? And do you know that in rural India in villages, child marriages are so common? And sati (burning wife when husband dies) even in this day and age occurs in India now and then? So don't talk about Hindus and Muslims when you clearly know NOTHING about them, their customs, religion, and the ground reality.
You are so civilized. A country that promotes Pornography, A country that promotes homosexuality, A country that Promotes ALcoholism, A country that promotes individualism, meaning putting yourself more than anything else, a country promotes capitalism, where the main tthing everybody focuses is on money, they are willing to leave their own children with a stupid babysitter for money, not caring how the children is raised. I just gave you the description of Hell on Earth,
@BrFaisal ,"U R so civilized.A country that pornography,homosexuality,alcoholism" I suggest U go toYouTube and type in "male sex workers in Pakistan clip2(equinox)musafirkhana clip2" " young boys sold into sex slavery by Taliban!" "Afghanistan news,selling of women & girls in the south" "yalda's kabul-afghanistan" see how young Paki boy are screwed for Rs200,[£2.00] The problem with U muslims is just that main media in the West does not report these things here,U muslims assume it does not .
@filx3tacy "U mean how the Afghan troops that side with the UN and NATO AGAINST the Taliban sell boys? Is this what you understood from my post? Then you lack the knowledge of English. I feel sorry for you. Go play with you toys.You muslims lack some thing? brain. google faithfreedom
And that same civilized country doing this to a poor women???where were those countries you mentioned in the Midages When Islam was the culture that they tried to imitate?? And when did renaissance take place? After the fall of Muslim Spain. All of a sudden Britain got all power hungry and wanted to rule the world. which almost they did.
I am not going to reply to you again because your replied implied that you agree with another holocaust. Your civilized countries is no different than hitler.
@BrFaisal "Your civilized countries is no different than hitler. " Alright dumbshit, have fun hating gays and treating women like objects, then calling ME hitler.
@TheReverts Just curious, how do you know she is completely innocent? I wonder, has any pro-Aafia fellow here even bothered to look at all sides of the stories and investigated the saga in-depth? I can standard if one adopts an agnostic stance and waits for all the details to come out before reaching a hasty conclusion.
You're gana have a LOT of haters on this tryna make themselves heard! It just goes to show how ignorant && daft they can be to rely on the Zionist Controlled Media that they actually feel the need to hate out against our Sis. Aafia even in the cyberworld!
We like to reach a broader audience and it also excuses us for people's hate and ignorance because we tried to get information out and people just refused to look at it. We cannot spoon-feed but we can be patient so we will resort to the latter with those who are looking to argue.
@JusticeforAafia Would you be humble enough to acknowledge that perhaps you can be wrong and misguided and not know the full story? Can you be humble enough to grant the possibility that perhaps Aafia and her family's version of events cannot be blindly trusted just as we cannot blindly trust the other side of the story? I expressed all my thoughts very politely...why don't you indulge in a discussion with me?
The youtube account is not set up for discussion, but JFAC can be reached for such. The address above is not directed to people with different opinions. It is being directed to people who will not even bother looking into her case due to blind hate. Please feel free to write an article on your views and send us a link so that we can respond in more just fashion. I apologize for any inconvenience.
@JusticeforAafia sorry, which wall? And as for your previous comment, then fine...I guess I will write an essay on the subject in the near future and invite others to critique it.
@ahmalala not a good thing to say when we do not yet know all the facts. There are so many crazy naive and ignorant Americans around who are racists, bigots and some even members of KKK and other white supermacist organizations. Many have not committed an actual crime, though their views are twisted. Probably Aafia is such an extremist as well. Instead of cursing her, we should hope she recovers and learns the errors of her ways.
@tipusultan007 When people try to defend her actions or deny that she even committed those actions, probably an example needs to be made.
Did you hear her lawyers arguments? Why did they notice her or how was someone so small able to carry the gun? These are desperate arguments that attempt to let free a clearly guilty person who deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law.
@ahmalala I agree with you that the argument borders on the absurd. I still have a tough time believing how someone can argue "she so weak, how she lifted the gun?" Unfortunately, many in our part of the world think in these simple ways and critical thinking is not much to be seen. I also do agree that Aafia was almost certainly involved with nasty individuals. But, did she commit an actual crime besides the one on which she was rightfully found guilty? God knows best.
Don't get me wrong. I am not suggesting she is "guilty." But only that there is more than meets the eye here and that her activities do raise questions (marriage to al-Balochi?). There's little doubt she had sympathies for extremists was almost certainly attempting to make it to Afghanistan. It is also possible that FBI and ISI were trying to make her gather intelligence for them, though her real sympathies were for Taliban. In end, all are liars: her mum, herself, fawzia, and Aafias x-husband.
4. Did Aafia not significantly weaken her case in court when she failed to give a straight story about precisely how she ended up in Afghanistan? She had the opportunity to reveal the story and her defense wanted to touch on this, but Aafia just couldn't tell a straight story, no? 5. And, moreover, when she made anti-Semitic outbursts and even refused to cooperate with her defense, claimed she could make peace between US and Taliban in "one day", I wonder how this helped her case?
I wish to ask those who support Aafia: 1. why does Fawzia Siddiqui not allow Aafia's son to reveal the whole story? What are they trying to hide? 2. Aafia's uncle says Aafia came to visit him in 2008 in Isl. He says Aafia's mother was there also. So, Aafia's mother and sisters are lying when they say they didn't see Aafia since 2003? 3. In court Aafia denied ever using gun. But was she not caught in a lie when it was said she underwent gun shooting training in US?
"How could a frail 90 pound woman lift the gun anyway?"
That is ridiculous! I was 97 pounds when I had my daughter and I was carrying her up 5 flights of stairs when she was 20 lbs and more. And I've shot rifles too.
Not to mention the fact that adrenalin can make you much stronger..and heck if I'd been raped I'd really want to shoot the people who did it, wouldn't you?
Really? I assure you, you are already judging this case through videos. Ones made by people with their own agendas. We are not here to make videos and provoke people into believing her innocence. We are here to provide you resources the mainstream media holds back. Hear and read for yourself all the sides of the story and then judge.
@JusticeforAafia JfA...whatever happened to Aafia is a tragedy. The innocent people confined and harmed in Abu Ghraib and Bagram are a tragedy, and all the innocents killed, maimed and rendered homeless in the wars are a tragedy.
But we won't stop that tragedy without careful religious impartiality and critical thought. I don't watch TV; I haven't for almost 30 years. You are "assuring" me of something that is false. I have ONLY seen pro-Siddiqui videos sent by Moslem friends.
It is simply a fact which is relevant..it shows for example how much information is moving around in ghettos rather than crossing between communities, which I am about to change a little by sending part of that 5-part frontline video you posted on your channel to people.
But...you have ducked the issue that you made a false..and completely unfounded assertion about me. That kind of thinking and talking is not the way to creditably make a case and does not serve Aafia's interests.
No issues have been ducked here. You said we can't judge a case through videos. The response was the whole world is informed through the media so it would be one's denial to say no video has an effect on society or individual, including yourself. If you would like to justify Aafia's position, justify her kidnapping, torture, rape, and the treatment of her children. It is one thing to be a criminal, another to be a torture victim, and yet another to be lied to about.
No J, your response was not that "the whole world is informed through the media"... your response was the making an unfounded, overconfident assertion about me, personally "I ASSURE you, YOU are already judging this case through videos". Well, when you leap to wrong conclusions about me, what am I supposed to think about the credibility of the conclusions you have drawn from whatever evidence has been available to you about Aafia? FYI, I have not made a judgement.
I think it is good you are trying to draw attention to the case, because innocent, guilty or somewhere in between, I don't doubt she has been subjected to damaging treatment, and she needs all the support she can get to recover. Which I hope she gets. But..being blindly self-righteous isn't going to help anyone. Although whatever is wrong in the conduct of the war should be exposed and stopped, before condemning Americans as depraved, perhaps Pakistanis should remember the Bangladesh war.
This was not a judgment. It is a fact. Media shapes our world indiscriminate to who we are. The word "you" was used in a general sense. Please do not feel personally attacked. You have said you do not watch TV. It made me wonder, is youtube not a substitute to television? Anyhow, I have not concluded anything about you nor do I seek to. Have a nice day.
@givebirthathome I agree it is a silly argument from Afia apologists. People like Mushahid Husain are responsible for promoting this argument (i.e. how can she lift gun when she is so frail?). She was obviously not so frail as she became after getting shot and even small kids (in waring African countries for example) often are seen with heavy rifles. In any case, the rifle in question is actually not that heavy. During trial jury was able to lift and handle it.
May Allah protect our Sister by those Devils, who never know what is the women and how to treat with them. Shame on U.S.A. they are kidnapping the innocents peoples, and call them Terrorist.
They're terrorist themself. May Allah protact our siter and guide them Americans to the right path.
May Allah ease the affairs of our sister Aafia && hasten her release from captivity. May He break free her shackles && the shackles of all of our oppressed prisoners. May Allah give them the strength to deal with their ordeal.
May Allah punish those who have oppressed our sister Aafia && continue to oppress her, may He defeat them && smite them, && may Allah forgive us for being negligent towards our Muslim brothers && sisters.
, ist sehr traurig und schmerzhaft.
wenn sowas meine frau passieren würde , ich weiß nicht wie ich reagieren werde.
MrEngEmad 1 year ago
I am shock! This is very sad news.May Allah help her most.
this is not humanity.May Allah give Hidayat to the western society.
May Allah help whole MUSLIMS in the World.
duke734 1 year ago 4
Subhaanallah I am shock! This Sister most have so much eeman!! The Hypocritical USA is evil inside and out!!
AmatullahTheTraveler 1 year ago
@Xiaoization So if you "dwell" on psychology (and, btw, I never claimed to be an "expert" on the subject), then you must be even more mentally disturbed than any typical mental patient.
Hell, you might even be a mental patient in an asylum who has been given some access to the internet!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization You know nothing about "analysis" and "explanation." That is why you are delusional about having done things you actually haven't done in reality.
You type grammatical gibberish, first make a silly generalization, then try to defend it, then try to alter your initial argument, then try to again justify generalization by utilizing false analogy...and up until yesterday you were convinced that Sudan was in Middle East.
As if this was not enough, you just make weird comments.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Psychology certainly isn't my subject. But I know enough to see how you suffer from projection and delusions. One is not required to be a qualified psychologist to see your pathetic mental state.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization IDIOT, you were talking about Islamic countries of the MIDDLE EAST. And you included in the list Sudan!! Conclusion: you committed a SILLY and EMBARRASSING error of fact.
The Sudan being in the Middle East was not your "main point" still does not alter this fact: that you committed an EMBARRASSING ERROR.
Just accept your mistake rather than playing games over and over again because that makes you appear more and more like a, well, RETARDED!
LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization
"and Who Lack Knowledge of this Whole Subject Even Grammar For that Matter?"
It is absolutely ironic that the one who produced the above grammatical nonsense (and regular grammatical gibberish in all his comments) actually has the audacity to give lectures on grammar and insist he writes using good grammar!
Even more amazing is the delusional state of mind of this retard!
Pathetic LOOSER LOL.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization I have replied to your explanation. u are too much of an IDIOT to comprehend it: the fact that u committed a "you too" through your generalization still means that BOTH u and JFA are wrong. Period.
The fact u cannot comprehend this is simply indicative of u being a RETARD.
And I didn't accuse you of making "words" up. I did erroneously make this claim pertaining to only one word. I admitted my error straightaway. At least I am intelligent enough to know that Sudan is in Africa!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization aww...as Shakespeare said, "The lady doth protest too much..." And just in case you are confused, Shakespeare was not from Sudan.
You are here simply because you are an idiot, who suffers from grandiose delusions about himself and who has a seriously projection problem. That's all.
Anyone here can see you write like a retard, that you happen to be a bigot nazi moron, and an idiot par excellence who just goes on and on like a clown...PATHETIC.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization MORON, it would be grammatically nonsense for anyone familiar with elementary English grammar. If you had inserted the above NONSENSE in an English exam paper, you would be getting a big F.
It is BECAUSE you are a COMMON IDIOT that you belligerently insist that the above OBVIOUS GRAMMATICAL NONSENSE is a "valid" and grammatically "correct" sentence.
This is similar to the time when you made use of a blatantly false analogy yet moronically kept insisting you did the right thing
tipusultan007 1 year ago
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@Xiaoization Just look at this typical sentence of yours:
"and the Particular Grammar that i used is Actually Understandable to the Layman and the Academic of Such."
Jee...do you really see nothing wrong in the above? I mean seriously? Amazing!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization "And for the Record You dont Wright better than me."
Well, I use your own record to disprove your claim. It is "write" and not "wright."
So yeah, I DO write better than u. It's like one of those unbreakable laws of physics. Just live with it
Again we witness ur projection tendency. U just typed a silly sentence, you don't know when a word does not begin with capitals, and ur posts are littered with incoherent sentences, yet u have convinced yourself that I am the one doing this!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization MORON, it would be grammatically nonsense for anyone familiar with elementary English grammar. If you had inserted the above NONSENSE in an English exam paper, you would be getting a big F.
It is BECAUSE you are a COMMON IDIOT that you belligerently insist that the above OBVIOUS GRAMMATICAL NONSENSE is a "valid" and grammatically "correct" sentence.
This is similar to the time when you made use of a blatantly false analogy yet moronically kept insisting you did the right thing
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization let us "analyse" your argument. u reply to my posts because you have fun doing so and others can see it. Well, we see u often posting a plethora of improperly written sentences, as if a 5 year old RETARD is typing, we see u even posting with capitals as if you are screaming in front of ur monitor, and we see u making blunders upon blunders (false analogy, u name it). It just ain't working...sorry! LOL
To correct you: I bashing u and making fun of you ... LIVE WITH IT SUCKER LOL :P
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization I know what you are, but what am I? hehe LOL...
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Dude, it ain't working. That u had to type in capitals shows how frustrated u are, which means you aren't having fun at all. You are angry, frustrated, and just don't know what to do...hence your gibberish sentences.
In contrast, I am having fun replying to your RETARDED comments. I come here for a few minutes hoping to see your new comments, spend some minutes replying and laughing...haha...It's so fun for me to make fun of you...RETARD LOL.
hehe... Dude, seriously, u r pathetic
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization yeah, IGNORANT people like YOU... got it?
Who lacks knowledge of grammar? It is the dude who writes:
"and you call you self Dicently Educated."
The above is YOU haha...!
Yeah, we all make grammatical mistakes. I do too. But, overall, I write MUCH MORE GRAMMATICALLY ACCURATELY than you...that's a FACT.
And look, again, you are suffering from PROJECTION. We can all see you write like a RETARD and make countless SILLY errors. yet you accuse me of writing the way you write! LOL!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Talk about "colossal embarrassing mistake" (note you misspelled the first two words!), you wrote:
"and you call you self Dicently Educated."
Hahaha... we are getting lectures on psychology and education and "analysis" from one who produces the above type of NONSENSICAL sentences!
Your comments are LITTERED with such GIBBERISH sentences!
English is obviously not your first language. They are ruining you in the Nazi Academy in Berlin. Get enrolled in a different school MORON
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Moron SHIT FACE, all you can do now is type incoherent nonsense and just give lectures on psychology...are you a first year psychology student who is consistently failing exams? I am sure your knowledge fares no better than your awareness about where such a well known country as Sudan is located LOL
Keep waffling...no time to waste on your NAZI SHIT FACE LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization LOL...the fact you are desperately reduced to the point of projection and copying my lines is only indicative of the fact that yours is the DEEPEST GRAVE in the world...deeper than the Mariana Trench! LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization shit head, I don't need to "reference" anything about your tendency of projection and, MORON, I did not refer to any "particular study" about "projection disorder." I simply (correctly) observed that YOU suffer from projection and I submitted examples of that. Period. LOL...you are so RETARDED that your SHIT HEAD couldn't even comprehend this simple discussion LOL
And "abnormal psychology", well, I guess YOU suffer from that too! LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization yeah, I made one error and it did backfire. Drool in it all u want. Dude, u RETARD, u didn't know what continent Sudan is situated at! That is a dozen times MORE PATHETIC!
And, u made a silly generalized comment about a billion plus people. How RETARDED is that?
Not to mention ur stupid use of false analogy and desperate attempts to change your original assertion.
I mean wow...you are PATHETIC. My one mistake matters not. But your MULTIPLE MISTAKES should make u jump in a pond!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
I am BETTER OFF with my one mistake as opposed to ur MULTIPLE ERRORS LOL.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Let's look at your comment, "Any psychologist or students of such. " - this is a RETARDED sentence. It is broken and grammatically nonsense. I guess this is what u meant by "irrelevant phrases?"
And yes, I did make one mistake: not knowing about the word "analysation." Well, BOOHOO...big deal. I can live with it. At least I do not have to live with your mistake: Sudan is in Middle East. (not to mention ur other atrocious mistakes).
tipusultan007 1 year ago
as I said, it is just not working. Sorry. Your delusions that I posted comments "full of" "irrelevant" phrases is just way too desperate...can't you be more creative? Just read your comments before you type them, you type like a fucking retard, in broken English, atrocious grammar etc.
At least I can type much better than you...so you remain a LOOSER.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization You have been continuously whining like a baby. And now you have convinced yourself that I was. ANOTHER PROOF OF YOUR PROJECTION TENDENCY lol.
And please, it ain't working. Do not just copy my objections and foolishly reverse them upon me, because it makes you look more and more pathetic.
U are a weasel who whines, changes his arguments, makes factually erroneous comments over and over again...just accept it. LOL
U have "explained" nothing. U only waffled around.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Stop talking about "analyse my comments." U have done NO "analysis" here. I, in contrast, exposed you big time. LOL
And I did not have to look up Frued to know you suffered from PROJECTION DISORDER. Unlike you, I am decently educated so knew about projection. It is so so clear from your comments that you suffer BIG TIME from projection and I showed how...
Get a life you sorry little weasel LOOSER.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization You didn't write any "accurate depictions." You just got one thing right: analysation. All the rest what you typed was IGNORANT BULL CRAP.
As for name calling, STOP LYING. You started the name calling and I hit you back with the same favor. If you had written politely, I too would have replied politely. But when you got nasty, well I repaid you by your own medicine.
SO STOP WHINING LIKE A BABY.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization and if I am allegedly pathetic and you spending all this time to respond to me, then I suppose you are MORE PATHETIC haha LOL.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization RETARD, anyone who reads this will conclude u are a looser who got his ass whipped when he tried to post hate comments ...I LOVE to bash up hate mongers, whether Muslims or non-Muslims.
I definitely am an opportunist, but one who preys on LOOSER HATE MONGERS and total BAFOONS like yourself.
And now again we have your DELUSIONS. I know MORE ABOUT society and individuals (and geography!) than you...LOOSER :LOL
I do have the right to lecture IGNORANT people like YOU.
SHIT HEAD LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Or are u now changing ur argument? Do u realize that planets and people/communities are DIFFERENT and not one and the same?
Do u agree or disagree that it is WRONG to make a blatant generalization about groups of people and communities, particularly ones numbering a BILLION PLUS?
If u hit back with "yeah I agree," then ur defense of use of generalization in this discussion CRUMBLES TO DUST.
Are u getting any of this? Seriously, have u even heard the term "false analogy" before?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization you STUPID RETARD, I am talking about "false analogy" and not "sociology." You AGREED above that you simply hit back with a generalization about Muslims because JFA had made a generalization earlier on. My position is that BOTH of you are wrong. And when you then introduced the use of generalization in arguments pertaining to science (shape of earth etc), I stated you cannot make the same sort of generalization here...
Do you get it now RETARD! ?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
So my position is crystal clear. You are the one who, like a SHIT HEAD LOOSER, is changing his position and suffers from grandiose DELUSIONS about his (non-existent) intelligence!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
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@Xiaoization "you Cant* even analyse your own Situation."
LOL...your psychological condition of PROJECTION is getting worse and worse. How pathetic...no wonder you are known by all as a LOOSER! LOL
I don't need to "analyse" my "situation" as I am very clear on it: 1. you were wrong to make a generalization (as was JFA) and I was CORRECT to correct the two of you. 2. I was right when I educated you about Sudan being in Africa. 3. I was right about educating you on "false analogy."
tipusultan007 1 year ago
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@Xiaoization Now your second LIE: " theres no point covering up your tracks." - Response: LIAR, I didn't "cover" any of my tracks. ONLY YOU TRIED TO FOOLISHLY COVER YOUR TRACKS:
After being exposed and cornered over your silly generalization, the cover up attempt of changing your original assertion.
There we go! This is additional proof that you suffer from PROJECTION.
You changed your stance, then lied about it, then lied again my accusing me of "covering tracks." LIAR LOOSER.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization
"you lost the moment you opposed me. "
LOL. hehe...how DELUSIONAL! Let us *analyse* this: since I opposed you, you have learnt that Sudan is an African country, that generalizations about a people is wrong, that false analogy is a poor method of argumentation as you cannot just FOOLISHLY apply science based generalization upon a totally different subject etc etc
So u have lost MULTIPLE TIMES already.... fact u cannot see this only means: U R A LOOSER
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization SHIT HEAD, no analysis is required to correct u: Sudan is in Africa. This is an incontrovertible FACT. No "analysis" is required here.
As I said, while u use big words like "analysis" and "argument," u just do not know what they actually mean.
Unlike u, I readily admit one ONE (1) minor mistake: analysation. Big deal. At least I did not commit a plethora of errors as u did!!
So, my one tiny error verses ur MULTIPLE FOOLISH ERRORS.
Yeah, I can live with it. SHIT FACE LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
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@Xiaoization
"well arent you doing the samething with your "Sudan is not an Arab country" Dance?"
Response: I DIDN'T say Sudan is not an "Arab" country; I said it is not a Middle-Eastern country!! LOL I mean jee...what type of a LOOSER are you dude? Seriously?
There certainly are many many many Arabs in Sudan. But, Sudan is an AFRICAN COUNTRY.
Africa is not located within the Middle East. It is a DIFFERENT CONTINENT altogether.
Do you get it now...I mean seriously? LOOSER LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Hence my conclusion: YOU ARE A LOOSER AND A RETARD LOL.
I fucking HATE IDIOTS like yourself.
Keep the psycho babble to yourself RETARD. You are in no position to deliver lectures here when you thought a day ago that Sudan was in the Middle East LOL
I did waste my time: on a LOOSER like yourself.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Talk about psychology, I believe you suffer from a serious PROJECTION DISORDER. That is, attribute YOUR OWN undesired traits upon others.
Example: you are convinced you know "far more" than me. This despite the fact you did not know Sudan was an African country, despite the fact you used false analogy, despite the fact you usually type in broken incoherent English LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization and it is ironic that you speak about "analysing sentences" because you do not even know the difference between an argument and an assertion. And I am sure you know nothing about analysis in argumentation. Thus your silly childish diatribe.
You are a total waste of time and waste of space.
All hate mongers, whether Muslims or non-Muslims, suffer from delusions. They talk about "analysis" while they conduct none themselves. They think they are "smart" while the indulge in rhetoric
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization I am in a very good position to lecture you. And, shit head, stop talking about "academics" when you believed - prior to me educating you - that Sudan was in the Middle East.
Grammar wise, I write much better than you. You can only copy and paste me or copy and paste from the internet. You did not even know of a book on logical argumentation. I named you a book on the subject. A book which I possess :)
Look, u do not even know how to argue. You have the mind of a 5 year old kid.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization So you know a lot about chasing tails, I suppose that I cos you come from a family of retarded dogs who molest monkies LOL :)
Let us see your lecture on Sudan being in the Middle East :) I can live with my error of "analysation" - that is all you can really get back to me on. You, on the other hand, being a DOG LOOSER SHIT HEAD LOL blurted out:
Sudan is in the Middle East
LIED and tried to change your original generalization
made FALSE analogy
LOOSER LOL :)
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization and SHIT HEAD, since you still can't figure it out, before your LOOSER arrival, I was ALREADY objecting to JFA and his friends.
And when I CORRECTLY refuted your hate-filled generalization, I made clear to criticize JFA.
You are just a pathetic little queer LOOSER. LOL.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization u still do not answer my question: "SO WHAT if Muslims "claim" countries where they happen to be MAJORITIES???!"
Let me use this CORRECT analogy: If an American citizen claims that America is his/her country, would u object and blurt out like a MORON, "ooooh, evil American laying a claim upon his/her country, America!" what FUCKING SENSE does it make to state that Muslims lay claims on Sudan, SA etc - countries where THEY ARE MAJORITIES?
So ASS HOLE..are u getting it?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization RETARD, you STUPID RETARD, your ORIGINAL comment, AS YOU HAVE ADMITTED, was a generalization as it included ALL Muslims - no exceptions. You have ADMITTED so many many times above that you were indeed making a generalization.
It is only LATER, when CORNERED, that you began CHANGING your original claim.
DO YOU GET IT NOW?
YOU SHIT FUCK FACE ASS HOLE RETARD, DO YOU GET IT NOW?
LOL...what a LOOSER :) LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization You IDIOT you still aren't getting the point. You began with a SILLY GENERALIZATION. When cornered, you began changing your initial claim by introducing caveats such as "some" and "certain percentage" etc. Then you insisted you weren't changing your initial claim. At this point I CORRECTLY labeled you a LIAR.
There was no talk of "certain percentage of Muslims" or "some" in your ORIGINAL assertion.
Do you get it now? Or is there too much shit in your shit head?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization More NONSENSE from you: Sudan is NOT in the Middle East. Period. There is NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO MAKE SUDAN IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THE LAWS OF PHYSICS DO NOT ALLOW THIS! Get over it...it ain't working!
Middle East is no "reference" to Sudan being there...ASS HOLE!
No one in any "field" (unless of course they are LOOSERS like you) states Sudan = Middle East.
WHATEVER your main purpose, you committed an ERROR OF FACT.
This is why u are a RETARD, the continued defense of your ERRORS
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization In the world of academics, Sudan is not in the Middle East. And in the world of academics, we do not hear NONSENSE along the lines of "oh jee, evil Mooslims laying claim on Iran, SA, Sudan" etc.
Only in your LOOSER world do we get the above.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization you are so big a LOOSER than you can do nothing more than COPY my lines...haha...as I said, LOOSER with a capital L! lol :)
And your inherent nature of a LOOSER is now even more obvious from ur above SILLY comment:
1. I stated it makes NO SENSE to say Muslims "claim" countries where they already happen to constitute MAJORITY. And, secondly, SO WHAT?
2. I corrected you when you said Sudan was in the Middle East!
Now you hit back with pure WAFFLE by mashing the above two. LOL.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization SHIT HEAD, u LIED and all can see that. You began with a SILLY generalization, then u began changing your initial assertion. And, being awfully confused, u subsequently offered a FALSE ANALOGY.
Everyone can read ur retarded comments above do dont play games.
Talk about credibility, I EASILY have more credibility than a MORON who says Sudan is in the Middle East and one who uses FALSE ANALOGY. LOL.
u are a waste of time and a waste of space.
I RIGHTFULLY cornered and exposed u
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization oh and silly attempts to alter your initial claim.
You ARE pathetic, an IDIOT, and a BIGOTED LOSER!
Shit-head...total waste of time LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization it is indeed absolutely fucking simple, if only a RETARD would get it: people, societies, communities are NOT planets. Generalizations in a science related discussion and in discussions about people are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. What may be acceptable in one may not necessarily be acceptable in another.
And I am so tempted to copy and paste your comments about 1. SUDAN IS IN MIDDLE-EAST; 2. HATE-FILLED retarded generalization about Muslims; 3. Stupidly using FALSE ANALOGY etc etc
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization So from generalisations you have progressed to what is known as FALSE ANALOGY.
Our discussion is about people and communities and NOT the shape of the earth. You MAY get away with using generalizations in science and debates with young earth creationists and in discussions about the universe etc, but making BLATANT generalizations about PEOPLE only make you HATE-FILLED BIGOT and a RETARD.
Stop mixing people, communities and societies with PLANETS... the two are DIFFERENT!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization
let me get this straight, 1. generalization is a way of taing the piss out of somebody else. 2. Conclusion: generalization is right? ERRRR WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You still LOSE!
Here is what happened: JFA generalized. You got angry and decided to hit back with your own MORONIC generalization about Muslims - making a rash comment about a community numbering 1 BILLION PLUS, with numerous views on theology and politics shared by them.
You just showed you are AS BAD as JFA.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization yeah, so you generalized because the other guy generalized. This means, BOTH YOU AND THE OTHER GUY ARE WRONG, right? Then what the F are you bickering with me about?
Do you agree or disagree that your generalization was erroneous and ignorant just as JFA's generalization was ignorant and wrong?
So then, your generalization like JFA's generalization is FALSE and wrong.
End of story.
YOU LOOSE I WIN
LOL
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization
You wrote: "a certain percentage of muslims who proposed the globalization of sharia law..."
Later, you wrote: "some Muslims actually try to claim and propose to claim other countries"
RIGHT HERE we see you changing your initial assertion. Initially u didn't mention "some" Muslims or "certain percentage" of Muslims. U introduced these caveats only LATER when cornered once you realized your foolish excuses weren't working.
Have some self-respect and STOP LYING outta your ass
tipusultan007 1 year ago
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@Xiaoization stop LYING and playing games here.
1. You began with this initial claim: "muslims are rooting for the Globalization of Sharia and islamisation of every state in this world." This IS a generalized FAULTY *assertion*.
2. First you attempted to justify this using the "you too" fallacy when you wrote, "what i did was just used JFA's logic againt him or her."
3. Then you began CHANGING your initial hard generalization to make it "acceptable."
cont...
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization sure, I did not know "analysation." i guess I shouldn't blame you for not knowing in all these years that Sudan, which is often in the news, is an African and not a "Middle Eastern" country. While I am at it, I shouldn't blame you either for not quite knowing what "analysis," "arguments" and "assertions" mean. And yeah, I shouldn't blame you for initially making a SILLY generalization about Muslims and later FOOLISHLY changing your argument.
Why? Answer: because u r a RETARD.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization And you still repeat a FOOLISH comment: Iran, Sudan, SA etc ARE Muslim majority countries. They have been so for many many centuries. What "logic" is there behind Muslims "claiming" them WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE THEM??? And SO WHAT if Muslims "claim" countries where they happen to be MAJORITIES???!
Does any of this make sense...RETARD!?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization yeah right, you added Sudan as an "example" of a country in the MIDDLE EAST!! Shit head! LOL
"Analysation" I can understand, but only a LOOSER is expected to seriously believe that Sudan is located in the Middle East. Oh and, just to help you out more, Africa is not located in the Middle East. It is an entirely different continent. Do you know what a continent is?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization you better know by now...you will loose every time you come here because you are a retard by nature and retards and bound to lose. LOL :P
C'mon...you think Sudan is in "Middle East" haha...get outta here you IGNORANT LOSER :p
And hey...will you again FOOLISHLY try to LIE and say you weren't making a generalization? MORON lol.
Go back to your home: RUBBISH BIN. LOL :P
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization SHIT FACE, so yeah, I got "analysation" wrong. What did you get wrong? Let's see: 1. initial generalization about Muslims; 2. FOOLISH attempt to change your original assertion; 3. not knowing difference between "argument," "assertion" and "analysis"; 4. saying African country Sudan is in "Middle east".
So my 1 (one) error versus your: 4 errors...FOUR errors.
Conclusion: U THE RETARD, SHITFACE IDIOT lol :P
I can live with my little tiny error...but you should jump in a pond you MORON
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization hey there RETARD boy... it is funny how u desperately change your original GENERALIZATION. So yeah, you got the "analysation" word right...big deal...let's look at what you got wrong: "Sudan is in Middle East" and, of course, your initial generalization and the subsequent FOOLISH attempt to CHANGE your original erroneous assertion.
And now your new gems: "restricted code of grammar" haha...LOL. Ok, if it makes you feel better retard boy :) lol
Now SHIT FACE, u go back to LOSER LAND
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization lol, dance all u can like a monkey over you "analysation," you still remain a loser. As per ur copy/paste:
"To examine methodically by separating into parts and studying their interrelations."
When did u do this? u didn't. u just made a blatant generalized comment and then tried to change ur position.
LOL And Sudan is in Middle East? doubt LOL :)
You are copy paster, not me... knowing nothing about assertions and analysis. You still remain the biggest loser :P lol
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization "entry book on arguements?" Here is an *introductory* book on logical argumentation for u: Tracy Bowell, Gary Kemp, "Critical Thinking: A Concise Guide," 2nd Edition, 2002, New York: Routledge. READ IT; it will save you from making words up such as "analysation."
Only if someone is exceptionally DUMB - a RETARD - who thinks "analysation" is a word, doesn't know the difference between "argument," "assertion," and "analysis," only such a FOOL would side with u. LOSER. :) lol
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization so you need to get out of your delusions. Anyone with basic commonsense and who knows the difference between "argument" and "assertion" and who knows that "analysation" is NO WORD, can see YOU are a loser here with a capital L. Stop embarassing yourself over and over again and stop making words up. Check an atlas so you know which countries are located in the Middle East and try to use a dictionary now and then just so you do not make new words/terms up.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization look, u obviously do not know the meaning of terms such as "argument," "conclusion," "evaluation," "analysis." So do not use them and "analysation" is not even a word!
u began by making a hard generalized *assertion* (which is different from an *argument*). Once cornered, u decided to change ur initial assertion. u then presented bloopers: Sudan is a Middle Eastern country and the classic, "analysation." Having presented no *argument*, you still convinced u presented "arguments."
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization And Sudan is not in the middle-east, btw. It is an African country. "Muslims" (as if "all" of them) do not "claim" these countries. That is because these are MUSLIM MAJORITY countries and have been so for well over 1000 years. So there is no question of "claiming" them.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization You were not stating any "argument." You merely offered a generalized conclusion (an assertion), lacking an argument. My objection is that BOTH you and JFA were indulged in generalizations. That's all. As for your REVISED assertion that "some" fundamentalist Muslims want Islamisation of Europe etc, then I AGREE. This NEW assertion of yours is accurate. It was only your initial generalized statement to which I rightfully objected.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization SO WHAT if "some" fundamentalist Muslims want to have other lands conquered and Islamisation of GB, Denmark etc? There r also SOME Hindus and who want Hindutva adopted in India upon all communities and SOME crazy Christians who want Europe to be Christianized and to kick out all non-whites. SO WHAT? Every community and religious group has extremists among them. Generally speaking, Muslims do not talk about conquering of "islamising" Europe etc. They tend to be peaceful citizens.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization you desperately try to alter your original position. You began with a hard generalization, "your fellow muslims are rooting for the Globalization of Sharia and islamisation of every state in this world." When you were cornered, you began changing your position. u did not talk about "some" Muslims, but now u say u were talking about "some" Muslims! :) There is no problem if you admit you were originally wrong. It is just funny how you now desperately try to wiggle out.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization More retardness from you: "i generalized an argument which in some level is accurate..." I mean, what da? Correction: you made a wholesale clear cut generalized assertion. It is not that the case that it was "in some level" generalized; it was FULLY generalized and silly to say the least. You weren't talking about a "certain level of percentage" of Muslims but about "Muslims" - no exceptions. Period. Just admit your mistake instead of digging a deeper grave for yourself.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization thus, I RIGHTLY criticized you both. And you add to the absurdity by demanding I "analyse" and "evaluate" your unanalysed and unevaluated retarded generalized conclusion, which you admit was no more than a reversal of JFA's "logic" upon him...and you have the audacity to insist you are not to be viewed as an idiot!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization lol, when you made this retarded generalization, "your fellow muslims are rooting for the Globalization of Sharia and islamisation of every state in this world" WHAT was the "argument" and the "analysis" you presented to reach this silly conclusion? NONE. You just made a silly generalized comment. Period. You even agreed to this much when you wrote: "what i did was just used JFA's logic againt him." So, if JFA was wrong in his logic, then YOU TOO were wrong!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Why "but in?" Because people here are free to comment and respond to anyone's comments. That's why. Got it? And "butting in" does not follow I am somehow "responsible" for someone else's comment. Got it? Elementary logic. Hence my advice: read an introductory book on logical argumentation before posting silly comments.
Conclusion, BOTH you and JFA are wrong and simpletons who like making generalizations.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
Mann this video is a very sad video.
IslamHP 1 year ago
Please think before typing, have patience with one another, and reply with a cool mind. Thank you.
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
@Xiaoization So no, it is not my "cognitive thinking" which failed. You just do not know how to make logical arguments. I read, analysed, and correctly critiqued. You need to read an introductory book on logic and reasoning in argumentation (same advice for JFA as well).
You certainly do come across as an idiot if you foolishly ask my why JFA made certain comments (as if I had something to do with it) and when you then try to justify your own errors in a desperate manner.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization Just to make it clear, I am not JFA's daddy or his boss. I am not responsible for his ignorant statements, just as I am not responsible for your ignorant statements. So why ask me why he made such and such a comment? I stated clearly he was wrong and I also stated you were wrong. I spoke against BOTH of you. Now because he is wrong, that does not justify your later erroneous generalization. You replied to his erroneous comments by introducing your own hate-filled generalizations.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Xiaoization you are both indulged in ignorant generalizations. JFA would have us believe that developed countries "rule" the third world and you would have us believe that monolithic Muslims (there are over 1 billion of them with diverse views and range of opinions) are "rooting" for Shariah and "Islamisation" of "every state" in the world. Both of you are extreme in your views and simpletons. It is just that you are operating at different ends of extremism.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
Here's some truth.
Islam grows fast because they have a lot of kids, and they immigrate a lot. Why do they immigrate? Because their country sucks. Countries where the majority are muslims (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc,) suck. They are very ignorant and do not move forward very fast as a civilization. France, Germany, Canada, Sweden, etc are MUCH better. But with immigration, you guys plan to turn them into places like Saudi Arabia. Is my statement false in ANY way whatsoever?
Transfectingood 1 year ago
@Transfectingood Those are really retarded thoughts. Islam grows not only because Muslims are predominantly a young population, but also due to conversions. Immigration just shifts populations; it does not make it "grow." Christians in third world countries immigrate A LOT as well, as do Hindus and others. While many Muslim countries are backwards, quality of life is good in some as well (Saudi, Malaysia, Moroco). You are just making hard generalizations and presenting stereotypes.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@tipusultan007 They are not retarded thoughts you just have trouble understanding. Immigration doesn't by itself cause increase, that's why I said multiply and immigrate like crazy, they grow quickly and spread around quickly. Conversions account for some but if you go on wikipedia it is mainly the "conversion" or ignorant children (multiplying quickly) who never had the chance to learn other religions. Saudi has somewhat ok quality of life...if you're a STRAIGHT MALE ONLY
Transfectingood 1 year ago
@Transfectingood They are retarded thoughts when you make hard hate-filled generalizations and sweeping comments about societies and nations, about which you probably know nothing first hand. I certainly have trouble "understanding" your thoughts because they are retarded by default. Just look at the sneer and hate in your above comments. I wonder how this is different from the hate spewed by Aafia and company? Wikipedia is no justification for your bigotry nor an "authority" on the subject.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@tipusultan007 Wikipedia is no justification? So what is, you? The fact is, if people of a certain lifestyle (to put it more politically correct for you) have a much higher birth rate than those without it, and if such people have a high immigration rate, then the countries they immigrate to will become more and more like the one they came from. Turning European countries into Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is not a good idea in anyone's opinion.
Transfectingood 1 year ago
@Transfectingood Neither I NOR wikipedia! can't you get something so simple? Namely, no justification for hate. Period. What do you know about immigration patterns besides your Hitler hypothesis on migration? UK, USA, particularly the latter, have rich history of immigration. They have NOT become like the countries from which people are migrating from. You just offered a travesty of logic! No European country is transforming into any Muslim majority nation...stop getting high on crack.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Transfectingood your hate is clear from comments such as "they grow quickly and spread around quickly." Sounds eerily similar to a sermon given by Hitler about the Jewish people in which the latter are portrayed as a disease and sub-humans. Would you dare talk this way about the growing Hindu population, the growing/booming Christian population in third world countries? NO. Have you had a chance to learn about other religions? NO. Majority of people DO NOT know too much about other religions.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@tipusultan007 I would talk about Christians that way just fine, but they are not growing the way Islam is. People in India are having too many damn kids too but at least Hindu's are less forceful of their beliefs upon others.
Transfectingood 1 year ago
@Transfectingood No you would not and you have not spoken about Christians in that way. In the UK, for example, Hindu immigration from India is as high as that of any other group. In India Hindus are a booming people. Christians in Africa and Asia are also a booming population and many immigrate to Europe and North America. It is not just Muslims. You just imagined these aren't booming the way many Muslim populations are just because u do not want that to be true!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Transfectingood Hindus are "less" forceful"? You are MASSIVELY IGNORANT! They kill THOUSANDS (Christians, Muslims and lower caste fellow hindus) in riots and pogroms EVERY YEAR. In Gujrat they raped, killed and hacked innocent women and children. This happens commonly in India. Of course, overwhelming majority of Hindus are peaceful...just as overwhelming majorities of ALL communities are peaceful. Hate-filled BIGOTS like you are minorities in your own communities and countries. Good for all.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@tipusultan007 You are looking at simple things. I'm speaking more as if their religion came to 90% of a population. If hindu's ruled the world, we'd be a bunch of idiots drinking mouse crap and all that stuff. But at least they don't hate gay people and not allow women to walk alone and kill if you don't marry a 70 year old and all that ignorant shit.
Transfectingood 1 year ago
@Transfectingood How do you know "Hindus" do not "hate" gay people? I know a few personally who are Barhamins and who do dislike gay people and homosexual lifestyle. Conclusion: oh all Hindus hate gays! NO NO NO... u make hard generalizations about Muslims as if they are sub-humans, speaking about them as if they are insects, and then u say Hindus do not hate gays as if u know all the millions of hindus!
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@Transfectingood Do you know there are millions and millions of Hindus in the globe? How can you be sure some among them do not dislike gays? And do you know that in rural India in villages, child marriages are so common? And sati (burning wife when husband dies) even in this day and age occurs in India now and then? So don't talk about Hindus and Muslims when you clearly know NOTHING about them, their customs, religion, and the ground reality.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
You are so civilized. A country that promotes Pornography, A country that promotes homosexuality, A country that Promotes ALcoholism, A country that promotes individualism, meaning putting yourself more than anything else, a country promotes capitalism, where the main tthing everybody focuses is on money, they are willing to leave their own children with a stupid babysitter for money, not caring how the children is raised. I just gave you the description of Hell on Earth,
BrFaisal 1 year ago
@BrFaisal ,"U R so civilized.A country that pornography,homosexuality,alcoholism" I suggest U go toYouTube and type in "male sex workers in Pakistan clip2(equinox)musafirkhana clip2" " young boys sold into sex slavery by Taliban!" "Afghanistan news,selling of women & girls in the south" "yalda's kabul-afghanistan" see how young Paki boy are screwed for Rs200,[£2.00] The problem with U muslims is just that main media in the West does not report these things here,U muslims assume it does not .
simba1936 1 year ago
@simba1936
You mean how the Afghan troops that side with the UN and NATO AGAINST the Taliban sell boys? watch?v=iL5inZxCELQ
filx3tacy 1 year ago
@filx3tacy "U mean how the Afghan troops that side with the UN and NATO AGAINST the Taliban sell boys? Is this what you understood from my post? Then you lack the knowledge of English. I feel sorry for you. Go play with you toys.You muslims lack some thing? brain. google faithfreedom
simba1936 1 year ago
@simba1936
Nice way of dogding the question. If you watch the video, you will get owned. Have a nice one!
filx3tacy 1 year ago
And that same civilized country doing this to a poor women???where were those countries you mentioned in the Midages When Islam was the culture that they tried to imitate?? And when did renaissance take place? After the fall of Muslim Spain. All of a sudden Britain got all power hungry and wanted to rule the world. which almost they did.
I am not going to reply to you again because your replied implied that you agree with another holocaust. Your civilized countries is no different than hitler.
BrFaisal 1 year ago
@BrFaisal "Your civilized countries is no different than hitler. " Alright dumbshit, have fun hating gays and treating women like objects, then calling ME hitler.
Transfectingood 1 year ago
i urge all my sisters and brothers in humanity to help this innocent lady please please support this cause in any way shape or form you can.
may god almighty help this lady.... aameen
TheReverts 1 year ago
@TheReverts Just curious, how do you know she is completely innocent? I wonder, has any pro-Aafia fellow here even bothered to look at all sides of the stories and investigated the saga in-depth? I can standard if one adopts an agnostic stance and waits for all the details to come out before reaching a hasty conclusion.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
May Allah grant victory to Aafia and the Muslims
Ameen
DerivativeXY 1 year ago
You're gana have a LOT of haters on this tryna make themselves heard! It just goes to show how ignorant && daft they can be to rely on the Zionist Controlled Media that they actually feel the need to hate out against our Sis. Aafia even in the cyberworld!
AllahuAkbar!!
TheMuslimahSouljette 1 year ago
We have a lot of haters following her case. This is exactly what we are aiming for :)
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
We like to reach a broader audience and it also excuses us for people's hate and ignorance because we tried to get information out and people just refused to look at it. We cannot spoon-feed but we can be patient so we will resort to the latter with those who are looking to argue.
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
@JusticeforAafia Would you be humble enough to acknowledge that perhaps you can be wrong and misguided and not know the full story? Can you be humble enough to grant the possibility that perhaps Aafia and her family's version of events cannot be blindly trusted just as we cannot blindly trust the other side of the story? I expressed all my thoughts very politely...why don't you indulge in a discussion with me?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@tipusultan007
The youtube account is not set up for discussion, but JFAC can be reached for such. The address above is not directed to people with different opinions. It is being directed to people who will not even bother looking into her case due to blind hate. Please feel free to write an article on your views and send us a link so that we can respond in more just fashion. I apologize for any inconvenience.
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
@tipusultan007
Please check your wall for a short response to your inquiries.
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
@JusticeforAafia sorry, which wall? And as for your previous comment, then fine...I guess I will write an essay on the subject in the near future and invite others to critique it.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@JusticeforAafia err...you are aiming for "haters" to follow her case rather than aim for the truth to come out?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
I hope they crucify that devil women!
ahmalala 1 year ago
@ahmalala not a good thing to say when we do not yet know all the facts. There are so many crazy naive and ignorant Americans around who are racists, bigots and some even members of KKK and other white supermacist organizations. Many have not committed an actual crime, though their views are twisted. Probably Aafia is such an extremist as well. Instead of cursing her, we should hope she recovers and learns the errors of her ways.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
@tipusultan007 When people try to defend her actions or deny that she even committed those actions, probably an example needs to be made.
Did you hear her lawyers arguments? Why did they notice her or how was someone so small able to carry the gun? These are desperate arguments that attempt to let free a clearly guilty person who deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law.
ahmalala 1 year ago
@ahmalala I agree with you that the argument borders on the absurd. I still have a tough time believing how someone can argue "she so weak, how she lifted the gun?" Unfortunately, many in our part of the world think in these simple ways and critical thinking is not much to be seen. I also do agree that Aafia was almost certainly involved with nasty individuals. But, did she commit an actual crime besides the one on which she was rightfully found guilty? God knows best.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
Don't get me wrong. I am not suggesting she is "guilty." But only that there is more than meets the eye here and that her activities do raise questions (marriage to al-Balochi?). There's little doubt she had sympathies for extremists was almost certainly attempting to make it to Afghanistan. It is also possible that FBI and ISI were trying to make her gather intelligence for them, though her real sympathies were for Taliban. In end, all are liars: her mum, herself, fawzia, and Aafias x-husband.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
4. Did Aafia not significantly weaken her case in court when she failed to give a straight story about precisely how she ended up in Afghanistan? She had the opportunity to reveal the story and her defense wanted to touch on this, but Aafia just couldn't tell a straight story, no? 5. And, moreover, when she made anti-Semitic outbursts and even refused to cooperate with her defense, claimed she could make peace between US and Taliban in "one day", I wonder how this helped her case?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
I wish to ask those who support Aafia: 1. why does Fawzia Siddiqui not allow Aafia's son to reveal the whole story? What are they trying to hide? 2. Aafia's uncle says Aafia came to visit him in 2008 in Isl. He says Aafia's mother was there also. So, Aafia's mother and sisters are lying when they say they didn't see Aafia since 2003? 3. In court Aafia denied ever using gun. But was she not caught in a lie when it was said she underwent gun shooting training in US?
tipusultan007 1 year ago
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tipusultan007 1 year ago
"How could a frail 90 pound woman lift the gun anyway?"
That is ridiculous! I was 97 pounds when I had my daughter and I was carrying her up 5 flights of stairs when she was 20 lbs and more. And I've shot rifles too.
Not to mention the fact that adrenalin can make you much stronger..and heck if I'd been raped I'd really want to shoot the people who did it, wouldn't you?
We can't judge a case through videos.
givebirthathome 1 year ago
@givebirthathome
"We can't judge a case through videos."
Really? I assure you, you are already judging this case through videos. Ones made by people with their own agendas. We are not here to make videos and provoke people into believing her innocence. We are here to provide you resources the mainstream media holds back. Hear and read for yourself all the sides of the story and then judge.
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
@JusticeforAafia JfA...whatever happened to Aafia is a tragedy. The innocent people confined and harmed in Abu Ghraib and Bagram are a tragedy, and all the innocents killed, maimed and rendered homeless in the wars are a tragedy.
But we won't stop that tragedy without careful religious impartiality and critical thought. I don't watch TV; I haven't for almost 30 years. You are "assuring" me of something that is false. I have ONLY seen pro-Siddiqui videos sent by Moslem friends.
givebirthathome 1 year ago
@givebirthathome
"we won't stop that tragedy without careful religious impartiality and critical thought"
I agree with you. So why does it matter that all your pro-Siddiqui friends are Muslim?
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
It is simply a fact which is relevant..it shows for example how much information is moving around in ghettos rather than crossing between communities, which I am about to change a little by sending part of that 5-part frontline video you posted on your channel to people.
But...you have ducked the issue that you made a false..and completely unfounded assertion about me. That kind of thinking and talking is not the way to creditably make a case and does not serve Aafia's interests.
givebirthathome 1 year ago
@givebirthathome
No issues have been ducked here. You said we can't judge a case through videos. The response was the whole world is informed through the media so it would be one's denial to say no video has an effect on society or individual, including yourself. If you would like to justify Aafia's position, justify her kidnapping, torture, rape, and the treatment of her children. It is one thing to be a criminal, another to be a torture victim, and yet another to be lied to about.
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
@JusticeforAafia
No J, your response was not that "the whole world is informed through the media"... your response was the making an unfounded, overconfident assertion about me, personally "I ASSURE you, YOU are already judging this case through videos". Well, when you leap to wrong conclusions about me, what am I supposed to think about the credibility of the conclusions you have drawn from whatever evidence has been available to you about Aafia? FYI, I have not made a judgement.
givebirthathome 1 year ago
I think it is good you are trying to draw attention to the case, because innocent, guilty or somewhere in between, I don't doubt she has been subjected to damaging treatment, and she needs all the support she can get to recover. Which I hope she gets. But..being blindly self-righteous isn't going to help anyone. Although whatever is wrong in the conduct of the war should be exposed and stopped, before condemning Americans as depraved, perhaps Pakistanis should remember the Bangladesh war.
givebirthathome 1 year ago
@givebirthathome
This was not a judgment. It is a fact. Media shapes our world indiscriminate to who we are. The word "you" was used in a general sense. Please do not feel personally attacked. You have said you do not watch TV. It made me wonder, is youtube not a substitute to television? Anyhow, I have not concluded anything about you nor do I seek to. Have a nice day.
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
@givebirthathome I agree it is a silly argument from Afia apologists. People like Mushahid Husain are responsible for promoting this argument (i.e. how can she lift gun when she is so frail?). She was obviously not so frail as she became after getting shot and even small kids (in waring African countries for example) often are seen with heavy rifles. In any case, the rifle in question is actually not that heavy. During trial jury was able to lift and handle it.
tipusultan007 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
fuck islam and fuck christianity.. fuck religion and fuck this skank ass arab bitch
jtboll00 1 year ago
very informative video, i will keep track of these.
by the way, does anyone know the nasheed in this video?
TheHosay 1 year ago
@TheHosay
It's called "Ghurabah", it's a very popular nasheed.
watch?v=GcGTd3Z1Rlo
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
where is she held a prisoner
turkmuslim4ever 1 year ago
@turkmuslim4ever
Right now in METROPOLITAN DETENTION CENTER in Brooklyn, New York
JusticeforAafia 1 year ago
May Allah protect our Sister by those Devils, who never know what is the women and how to treat with them. Shame on U.S.A. they are kidnapping the innocents peoples, and call them Terrorist.
They're terrorist themself. May Allah protact our siter and guide them Americans to the right path.
waqaralisial 1 year ago 4
Excellent upload. Free sister Aafia Siddiqui.
no2facism 1 year ago 6
May Allah ease the affairs of our sister Aafia && hasten her release from captivity. May He break free her shackles && the shackles of all of our oppressed prisoners. May Allah give them the strength to deal with their ordeal.
May Allah punish those who have oppressed our sister Aafia && continue to oppress her, may He defeat them && smite them, && may Allah forgive us for being negligent towards our Muslim brothers && sisters.
'Ameen ya Rab al'Alameen!!
Jazakamullah khair for the upload.
TheMuslimahSouljette 1 year ago 5