Israel should stop dropping bombs on the palestinians and start dropping soap. My God, palestinians are fucking animals. No wonder why other arabs countries allow them to be pseudo-nomads. No one wants the putrid shit. Rachel Corrie, if you're out there listening? Hope you're part of the 72 virgin whores........
i've been studying this conflict now for several months. im am just about to finish a dissertation on the subject and can i just say that if you cant see that this video it is bias and has doesnt take into account any of the israeli efforts at all, then you are an idiot. i am totally objective in this matter and actually i do disagree with 'this' wall i do think its wrong, but sweeping statements by people like 'PaloSoldierofAllah' and 'ZionistsAreLiars' are completley unfounded
we have been opperessed for over half acentury we can live with it and fight for our freedom for another 10 century.we do suffer and tough but we stimulate our stregnth from our holly book the Great Quran !!! meaning will never ever ever give up our rights in this land or any other moslims land,look around you ll know action speaks louder than words ,thanks to Allah almojahdeen are every where fighting back western aggression
There are nobody more dangerous than a brainwashed zionist... Their leaders are experts in lying and decieving them. Which furthers their aim in creating Antisemitism to further their cause for a zionist state..ZIONISM PROMOTES ANTISEMITISM..
It's no wonder why Jews have always been a hated people throughout history. We Americans better wake up soon they are ruining our country at a rapid pace!
This is extremely sad, I never knew what was happening to the Palestinians, all I see on TV is Israel defending itself against "terrorist" Hamas. Nothing is reported about the plight of Palestinians or the activities of Israelis. This is amazing that stuff like this is happening in this day and age. My parents went through colonization by the British and it's pretty much the same thing Israeli's are doing.
I honestly CANNOT see how the Israelis can stomach this if THEY were persecuted, stripped of rights, robbed of their homes, and sent to concentration camps a mere 70 years ago. What can I say...history repeats itself. Its sickening.
Because they never were really persecuted. All people living in Israel has been trained since elementery school to be indoctrinated as "victims", and if they didn't act like nazi's, people would come and destroy them. That is why you find 1000's of these videos and news stories scrubbed from the tv, radio, and newspapers. Even the internet.
lol, they even spy on America!!! Americans just really need a wake up call...i really dont know how...all i can do is hope...they are feeding this zionists...
This video is shocking and the relevant countries of the world just sit back and observe with hands folded. What is happening to Human Rights, UN in 2008? That wall was not built for Israel's claimed protection but to steal and occupy 40% of arrable Palestinian land for the Jews. Israel and America who is funding them are the biggest terrorists today. Wall of shame and countries of shame.
It is because Israel are occupying and oppressing the Palestinians also imprisoning thousands of their men for years without release is why suicide bombers are targeting Israel in retaliation. If Israel withdrew their hundreds of street checkpoints and barbaric soldiers, returned the land to the Arabs,released their men, the bombers would stop. Being fed Israeli propoganda for years just like the western media, this is usually the opinion which you have. No media permited in Gaza, work it out.
Really meg ! I thought it was part of their insidious ideology and the promise of paradise and 40 virgins. So Al Qaida bombed London Underground & crashed into World Trade Centre because UK/USA occupies arab lands ? Now you really make sense ???
It has nothing to with Al Qaida, you are just playing with terms to sympathize with israel. You only see poor people dying because of suicide bombers but do you see poor palestinian kids dying anywhere on your TV? you are just a victim of your media.
meg - No media permitted in Gaza ? Really that's why we have perpetual news reports !
Perhaps the kidnapping of BBC journalist Alan Johnstone and many other journalists has something to do with the reason why so many are afraid to go there.
this wall will terminate itself one day.justice will be restored. I can see it coming. by reading most of the comments on this video i came to the result that truth has been distorted.
Why did Israel have terrorist attacks on its country before the occupation and on the Jews there before the establishment of Israel? The security fence is not there to reenforce Israel's occupation or make Palestinians suffer. It's there to protect Israeli civilians. By the way, Israel no longer occupies Gaza and Sderot is paying the price for the disengagement.
You are right Dendoi - Israel has pulled out of Gaza and they still attack Israel by firing rockets into her Towns. The barrier saves lives and only frustrates the suicide bombers.
Your very wrong my friend, type Israel/Palestine on YouTube and see how wrong you are. That wall was not built to protect the Jews from the Muslims but so that Israel, illegally stole Gaza land for the Jewish settlements. That wall covers half their land making it illegal. They have not left Gaza, far from it, Isr. soldiers have checkpoints on every street in Gaza restricting their livelihood in every sense, oppressing and slaughtering them daily. Watch the films smuggled out of Gaza and learn.
meg - The barrier is in the West Bank & NOT Gaza. Israel evacuated 9000 Jews & 17 settlements in 2005 yet 8000 rockets have been fired into Israel.The checkpoints are in the West Bank & not Gaza - read & learn.
sorry friend this is exactly what Israel wants you to think and why there is no media permitted in Gaza.
If the soldiers at the hundreds of checkpoints, issuing passes to those they wish, not permitting them to move without permission and killing civilians daily, restricting basic amenities, still bulldozing homes are not Israeli who are they then? Watch Israel/Palestine on YouTube and learn. The camera does not lie. It is inhuman, who are the terrorists here?
Israel should take over the middle east, then there will be peace. Or you can leave it the way it is, with Muslims turning into crap worse and worse each year. I'm sorry, but if you're a Muslim, you need to start worrying about your salvation, and quit listening to propoganda by the middle east.
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ALL YOU MUSLIMS HERE ARE FORGETTING A FEW THINGS. THE BLOOD THIRTSY TERRORISTS ARE THE ONES WHO FORCED ISREAL TO PUT UP THIS WALL AND AS YOU CAN TELL ATTACKS ON ISREAL HAVE PLUMMETED. SO THE WALL WORKS! DON'T ANY OF YOU EVER FORGET THAT IT WAS EGYPT, JORDAN, AND SYRIA WHO WERE THE ONES WHO ATTACKED ISREAL IN 1967. NO WAR, NO OCCuPATION. STOP STARTING WARS.
i'm not religious at all, but this support of israel over palestine is sickening. how could any self respecting jew consider this treatment of others fair after their WWII suffering. fu%$ing losers!
I'm finally coming clean and admitting that I'm a proud Turkish Muslim.
I also admit that I'm 100% behind the Iranian Islamic Regime and that Ahmadinejad is my hero.
I'm waiting for the 13th Imam to appear.
When I enter into paradise, I will remind Allah that I like young 12 year old girls. They can be my houris. I will also ask him to throw in some young boys too, as is our Islamic custom.
I have heard that although the Koran forbids homosexual sex, gay sex is very rampent in the Muslim World. It would only stand to reason, Muslims are segregated by gender and they value chaste women. I understand it's very normal for guys to screw around with men until they get married--of course it's totally on the downlow.
Who is not compying with the International Court of Justice in the Hague? Who has nuclear bomb in the area? Who is not complying with UN resolution 242 and 338? Who is building an Apartheid wall? Who is demolishing homes while the inhabitants are inside?
history has proved time and again that might is right, at least as long as the might lasts.israel was jewish who then lost it to the romans who became xns and they then lost it to the muslims who have now lost it to the jews.the jews today have as much right to claim the holy land today as did saladin after the crusades.both sides of the conflict have a lot of geography to rewrite and a lot of history to forget. its in their best interest to do so.if they care for their survival, that is.
Oh please, slautering Palestinians LOL that makes me laugh. You arab scum terrorists send people to blow up nursing homes, you purposely target public places and then try to make yourselves the "victim". This is nothing but arab propaganda.
.SLAUGHTERING `PALESTINIANS AT A RATIO OF "8 to 1" AND THEN CLAIMING YOU ARE THE VICTIM OF TERRORISM^ AND ANTISEMITISM IS SIMPLY LAUGHABLE BY ANY RATIONAL, LOGIC, RELIGION OR CREED. NO EXCUSE* IS CREDIBLE FOR THESE LEVELS OF TERRORISM. NOT EVEN THE JEWISH HOLY TORAH ALLOWS KILL~ING BEYOND AN EYE FOR AN EYE!
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NEOCON...israel killed 25 children in one day. i dont think that your army is that stupid, or mayb they r.we fight behind our wifes skirts like cowards you say,so wt do u call fighting from airplanes like pussies and throwin bombs all over the place as if it was a video game or som shit ... i dont hate jews, i love SOME jews. zach braff is my favourite actor ... but i hate children killers, terrorists who take over lands tht isnt theirs ... PEACE OUT :)
amrel, you live in a dream world, do you remember jenin?? there were no airplanes used. the isrealis always go house to house searching for your evil friends in gaza and kill them like the rats they are! the isrealis only use helicopters to blow your heroes the hamas leaders to paradise where they claim to want to go.
this is the same wall that is responsible for saving the lives of countless jews in isreal. don't you remember in 2001 thru '03 there were countless buses, pizza parlors, discos, market places blown up killing people indiscriminately?? since the wall was built that munber is almost negligible.
i guess you want the wall down so more jews can be murdered.
The purpose of the wall is to rule out the possibility of any future two-state solution. And the Palestinians don't want to kill "the Jews", they just want their land back. I'm sure they will be very happy if the Jews left Palestine, alive. But it seems that you are not giving them any other options.
MESSEDUPMIND860, the purpose of the wall is to save the lives of jews. the proof is that before the wall there were jews being murdered on buses, discos, pizza shops, etc.
after the wall, the amount of jews being killed went down dramatically. this is a fact. your blood thirsty terrorist buddies wish they could still kill jews. instead they are being killed.
If the oppressed can't find a way to overcome the Wall today, I guarantee they will one day.
You want to sound as if you care about the lives of Jews, but you don't. All you care about is the biblical prophecies that will destroy the Jewish nation. The only way to save the Jews is to send all immigrants back where they belong and give the land back to its real owners, the Palestinians. Otherwise, all the Walls of the worlds won't protect them. And we'll see.
believster, the only thing the terrorists were targeting in isreal was civilians. it has been well documented how the hezbollah would parade around the dead for the cameras and bring their dead from one location to the next. don't believe me google"hezbollah propoganda" and see what anderson cooper has to say from cnn. (hardly a right winger). a war was started, not by israel and the blame is squarely were it belongs, with the terrorists!
You rock. you are correct. Thw wall is up to protect Israel from suicide bombings. Other nations would respond like Israel if they had to put up with those daily terrorist attacks from terrorists dedicated to eliminating that country.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not condoning Israeli military actions, because they are disproportionate. However, I do realize why they've decided to build a wall, and don't see that as wrong. I also have a problem with people bitching and complaining about Israel, but not speaking out against hamas and hezbollah killing innocent Israeli citizens. People are hypocrites.
The mass jewish migration to Palestine in the 20th century and the subsequent jewish colonization of Palestinian land is what started all violence in the middle east. The indigenous Palestinian population had no option but to fight for their land, exactly the same thing anyone else would do.
That pretty much sums it up. So the arabs resort to violence because they don't like people migrating? There are lots of Muslims migrating to the uk, should I start a fucking mob and so slaughter their women and children?
Spot the difference: Arabs migrating to Britian with permission of British government AND Jews migrating to Palestine with permission of British government (when the british occupied Palestine). It doesn't take a high IQ to spot the difference. In the first case the indiginous British population of Britain welcomed the incoming Muslims, while in the second, the indiginous Arab population was against foreign Jews settling in Arab's land.
British government, elected by British people, continues to grant visas to Muslim (among other immigrants) to come and work and live in the UK. Compare that to the Jewish immigrants who fled to Palestine during the first half of the 20th century, while Palestinians were under British occupation and Palestinians never approved such mass immigration into their territory. It's a no brainer!
believster, i know we are on the same page politically, however i would like to respectfully disagree that isreali force being disproportionate is wrong.
if you only hit back tit for tat you cannot stop your enemy from attacking you in the future. you must completely destroy your enemies capacity to make war. that is how you stop them and the proof is that attacks from palestinians have almost comepletely stopped. the japenese during world war two would be another example.
I was refering more to Israel's lebanese assault than the palestinians. And bombing the crap out of a people may be a way to stop attacks, but I can't justify that, in the same way as I can't justify the Japanese being a-bombed.
believster, we arent given enough space for me to comment on lebonon. but i'll try anyway. the terrorists are responsible for any and every civilian death on both sides. they fight from behind their womens skirts like cowards. and deliver missiles from civilian locales. there was over 5000 katyusha missiles rained down on isreal, should isreal not respond? if isreal wanted to they can kill 90,000 lebenese. isreal went out of their way to not target civilians.
believster, you said and i quote,"bombing the hell out of people may be a way to stop attacks, but i cant justify that". i bet you could justify it if was your mother who was the one being attacked. these are my mothers and brothers who are being attacked. your damn right i can justify it. and japan, if we would have invaded the island, there would have been an estimated million more deaths on both sides caused. truman actually saved lives with the bomb.
Anyone can claim that by killing one person they are saving thousands, but don't forget that the one person is an innocent person, and by killing him you've just killed an innocent and you'll be held accountable for that in the Day of Judgement.
Israeli military actions disproportionate? Please, I condemn the killing of any innocent civilian but Israel intends to hit the terrorists. why is the USA's acts in Afghanistan not disportionate if Israel's actions are?
The Quran is the only holy scripture that is literally preserved in its original form and is scientifically correct. Although Muslims believe in the Torah of Moses and the Gospels of Jesus, there is undeniable evidence that these have been corrupted by the hand of man. One can clearly see the evident racism among Jews and the evident polytheism among Christians. Only Islam preserves the pure universal monotheistic religion of Abraham.
Quran 28:55 {And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant.'}
messedupmind, calling jews the soms of pigs and apes and refurring to us as people who incur gods wrath isnt racist??? you are a funny person. although truly pathetic.
Peace will return to the Holy Land, to the City of Peace, only when it is ruled by people who believe that the city is holy to Jews, Christians and Muslims. ONLY MUSLIMS DO BELIEVE THAT.
What is happening in Palestine now is a perfect example of how the world looks like when the Jews who consider followers of other religions to be animals, take control.
real muslims dont do that , Our religoun does no teach us to behave like that, not some shit that goes and blows himself up hes just a so called muslim, just by name. We all know who acts barbaric, we all know who live like animals. Everybody knows who are the zionist's.
Peace will return to the Holy Land, to the City of Peace, only when it is ruled by people who believe that the city is holy to Jews, Christians and Muslims. ONLY MUSLIMS CAN BELIEVE THAT.
860, here is another history lesson, before 1967 the jews were forbidden from going to the western wall because jordan would not allow it. only when we kicked your peoples ass in a war they started did the jews finally come home to their holiest sight. today christians and moslims pray where ever they want in jerusalem (when they are not throwing stones). and this is happening when jews are in control. you are just not up to the task of taking me on. this is too easy.
860, you need another history lesson. before 1967 the jews were forbidden from going to the western wall to prey. only after we kicked arab ass in a war they started did we finally come home to our holiest sight. today all people can prey where ever they want(as long as they dont throw rocks) in jerusalem. this is happening while jews are in control. youre just not up to the task of taking me on. this is just too easy.
Israel is building the wall like the CHINA wall not the Berlin wall... to keep the animals out of their country and only pass through correct border crossings.
WOW .. crossing at border crossings ?! THAT is so crazy? Yet palestineans don't do it, so it forces Israel to build a wall.
Plus they are NOT building the wall at Jordanian border. Thats will be Jordanians problem.
jabber, the wall is in a land where peoples from all faiths lived in harmony under the Islamic rule for centuries. The Zionist plot of Jewish mass migration to Palestine, and the subsequent "imposition" of a state of Israel on the native people of Palestine is what sparked all violence in the region. Finally, the Israelis are trying to imprison the Palestinians within that wall, to prevent them from entering a land that has always been theirs. Please put yourself in others shoes for a moment
imposition on the natives. HA! the natives are the jews they have been living in judea for more than 3000 years. a little history lesson, the pals were offered a country next to isreal but they refused. dumb move like everything that comes from the arabic world. instead they chose war and lost badly. TOO BAD. YOUR PEOPLE NEVER MISS A CHANCE, TO MISS CHANCE. your loss.
neocon, interpreting your false claim that "the jews they have been living in judea for more than 3000 years" leads to one of the following conclusions:
1. You know nothing about English, because the use of the present-perfect-continuous tense means that they lived and continued to live up till the moment
2. You know nothing about history, because there were no Jews (<3%) living in Palestine for more than 1300 years until the 20th century mass migration from Eastern Europe and other areas.
860, you just said it yourself,the jews were always there all be it a minority. never the less they were always there. have you ever been to the old city of safad, there are graves from rabbi josoph caro he died in 1575 or rabbi isaac loria who died in 1572 i dont have enough space but i can go on and on. clearly your ignorance is blossoming with every talk back.
neocon, the Jews who have been living in Palestine for 3000 years, as a minority (<3%) are most welcome to continue to live in Palestine peacefully as they always did under Islamic rule. But European Jews are illegal settlers and will be sent back home one day, sooner than you think.
The term "palestine" has been around for a long time BUT
the term "palestineans" has only been around since 1920.
Turkey and British BOTH took population counts and "ISRAEL" area had very few people. Palestineans try to point to "PALESTINEAN" population count but that INCLUDED ALL OF JORDAN AS WELL!!!
jabber, "Palestinians have never been in Palestine"..Oh yeah, it was the Indians. How silly!
And the claim that "Israel land was Empty" is even sillier. Every country in the world has some "empty" land. Name one country that will happily allow millions of people occupy those "empty" lands and establish a state there!
No walls will protect you from God's wrath. No walls will protect you from His punishment. Imprison yourselves in your "kingdom" and wait for His judgement.
what is your answer to p'era adom (wild ass of a man)? do you deny the truly wild nature of your people. this isn't racism this is an accurate description of your people that was prophesized by the torah (g-d) 3800 years ago.
messedupmind860, like i said before, when g-d appears to the muslim people in all his glory and says that you are my nation and i have chosen you above all others like he did with the jews. then i will agree with your premises from the koran. until then it is just a "book" like the new testament.(read exodus, i know your religion does not allow you to do such a thing but maybe you can ask a biblical scholar)
Compare the racism of your version of Judaism, and universality of Islam:
Quran (3:110) talking to Muslims, "You are the best of peoples, brought forth to mankind, you enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong, and believe in God. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
No matter who your parents are, Islam gives you a chance to be among the best people.
I could not verify this however I will respond under the assumption that you are being honest. I could find a scant few cases of anything crappy happening which is no indication of the norm. You'd need numerous cases which represent atleast a moderate percentage of a population. For example in US history rapists murdereds as well as hate crime get off the hook here and there. Not to mention money buying the rich out of trouble. Sometimes the justice system fails people in every area.
This should be renamed "The Wall of Necessity." Israel didn't build it on the spur of the moment thinking, nor as a symbol of racism. They built it only after long deliberation after enduring decades of terrorism. They didn't want to build it, but felt they had to. And the numbers don't lie, it has helped to lower the number of terrorist incidents in Israel. It the "Palestinians" fault that this wall is up.
The wall is an inevitable result of racism, of the injustice that has been done to the Palestinian people. It is the Palestinians fault that they couldn't do enough to stop the Jewish mass migration to Palestine early enough. It's the Palestinians fault that they left the British occupation give the Jewish settlers more and more land and control. God doesn't accept injustice, that's why the Jewish state will perish sooner or later.
messedupmind860, of course its not the palestinians fault they couldnt stop the mass migration of jews to palestine they were never in charge of palestine. it wasnt up to them. however the british did let them in, and they came legally, not like mexicans who cross in the dark of night, but with a passport to the palestinian immigration office run by britain.
How does it sound if those Mexicans got into America with a passport to the American immigration office run by the Iranians? Do you expect the Americans to accept this as a legal immigration?
860, if iran was running america there is not much i could do. however, britain was running palestine and was in charge of the gov't. you are talking about things that are not happening and i am talking about actual history. once more 860, CHECKMATE. you lose
If Iran were running America, and you sit back saying happily saying that there is nothing you can do, I will call you a traitor. Real patriots will fight back for their freedom, exactly like Palestinian militants are doing now. Pigs, however, will just eat shit and say that's all we can do.
btw...as a typical idiot, the more you talk the more you embarrass yourself. sometimes shutting yourself up is the best answer.
Laydee Lib - I can't describe just how stupid your comment is. So you're saying that if my ancestors didn't live in a certain place, then I shouldn't even think about living there? I live in the U.S., I was born here, and you know what? I belong here! And so if Arabs should be able to kick Jews out of Israel, then how about we kick all Arabs out of the U.S.? Great! Thanks!
Mr NoGuff the Idiot, Arabs entered the US with full permission from its people, Jews occupied Palestine against the will of its people. You can't see the difference because you are a blind racist zionist.
"mastermind" (now, that's irony!) - There was no recognized (or organized) state of "Palestine." Israel became a recognized nation, and is to this day. That's called "legitimacy." Look it up. The Israelis are not squatters. The issue is moot now.
Mr.Guff, it doesn't matter if you or your colonial masters recognize an illegitimate jewish state that was established on a land confiscated by force . Have you forgotten that the country that gave Israel legitimacy, i.e. the US, is a country that has been created through illegal settlements of colonialists and ethnic cleansing of native inhabitants. Ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, confiscation of the land of Palestine sounds like legitimate, isn't it?
If you want to you could rebuke every legit monarch who rose to the throne through murder, too. Nobody refutes how the US was formed, and today it honestly doesn't matter. Rome was built by force, and you say it wasn't legitimate? How many years did Rome exist? And so if you say, we should just erase it from the history books. How many nations were NOT formed by force, please answer that question.
Mr.Guff. You've just admitted that Israel was formed by force, by a continuous process of land confiscation and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. If you think that this what legitimacy is about, then don't be surprised if others use force to wipe out Israel.
Mr. mastermind, and you just dodged my question. Please name some countries that were either not formed by force, or didn't need to protect themselves by force, from enemies inside or outside their borders. It would be nice to debate with some who's head was not in the sand. Wake up! Violence is part of life, it's just that we tolerate a justified use of force and we don't tolerate terrorism or madness.
Every people have to use force at some point of their history. We are debating whether this is right or wrong, legal or illegal. Your attempt to put occupation and ethnic cleansing in the same basket with self-defense is tasteless. While the Jewish confiscation of Palestinian land and the ethnic cleansing against Palestinian Muslims and Christians is illegal, Palestinian self-defense is perfectly legal.
You think I'm equating ethnic cleansing and self defense. You're wrong. I asked what nations were started without use of force, and you didn't answer, and turned my intention around. I find that tasteless. Plus you agreed with my point that no nation exists without violence, or at least the threat of it.
why are you saying israel was created by force? the u.n. created it. however it was the arabs who ruthlessly attacked the fledgling state in 1948 upon its inception. thus the use of force was used to keep it a state. not the other way around
The United States was created by the signing of a document, but those people had to defend that decision with force. Israel also had to use force to defend its existence at its inception. Thats what I'm talking about. Almost all nations had to use force in some way at their start. This "mastermind" doesn't even know what he's arguing. Libs living in Fairyland think the world's made of gingerbread and lollipops.
messedupmind860 thinks palstinians arent arabs. he hasnt answered any questions posed to him and thinks there is nothing wrong with terrorism and the israelis are involved with ethnic cleansing.if the israelis were doing ethnic cleansing they could wipe out thousands within seconds. however if the pals could do the same they would do it without thinking
Mr.Guff, people thinking like you are the ones giving terrorists legitimacy. Terrorists signed a document that makes the world theirs. Then they are defending that decision by force. Very legitimate!!!
"messedupmind" - It is you and your Liberal (socialist) brethren who are giving terrorists ligitimacy. With your prior statement, you demonstrate that by equating good with evil, which Bill O'Reilly coined as "relativism." And the most saddening part is that you don't even know you're doing it. That makes you a pawn of evil.
So the jewish migratation in hundreds of thousands to the land of Palestine, the forciful displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians i good. The Palestinians fighting back is evil. Got it.
Actually, the fighting is over, been over for decades. It the terrorism that's the problem. They're acting like children who didn't get the one toy they wanted, so they throw a tantrum. Only these tantrums spill blood. They should grow up and make a viable community for themselves.
The fighting is not over until the Muslims give up their God-given right to live with full freedom in the land of their fathers and grandfathers. If your morality is low enough to allow you to accept the Jewish use of force to take over Palestine, and to describe the Palestinian resisitance as child play, then there is no need for this discussion and let's wait until the children grow up and kick the Zionists out of Palestine, forever.
Okay, fine by me. I'm more than happy to stop talking to a wall. So let's go ahead and do as you say, wait. You be sure to let me know when all of this comes to pass. Okay?
History proves that oppression never lasts, and like all transgressors, the zionist empire built on the land of Palestine will eventually fall...again.
Prior to 1948, hundreds of thousands of Jews migrated to Palestine, forming a militia that terrorized the native population of Palestine, committed massacres against the Palestinian, and burned entire Palestinian villages forcing its Palestinian population to flee. When they terrorized enough natives and occupied enough land, the declared a state. Stop pretending that Israel just emrged peacefully, because this sounds so naive and, in fact, pure stupid.
whatnthe hell are you talking about where is your proof. are you talking about during time of war.look at what happened in gaza today. fatah and hamas are killing each other 25 dead. killing is in their blood. i chronicled for you the 1929 massacre. an unprovoked attack on jews. i dont know of the burned villages you are talking about.(maybe dair yassin but this was in 1948 during war)
That kind of violence has been going on for hundreds of years, perpetrated by both sides. Right now Christians are being slaughtered en masse in other Islamic nations, family by family, village by village, and your socialist anti-American anti-Christian main stream media says not a word about it.
Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Somalia, Ethiopia, and some other African nations. Read some news other than the usual anti-American, anti-Christian outlets like CNN, BBC, NBC, etc. And no, I didn't get this info from FNC.
I wouldn't be surprised if Christians got killed in Iraq, but to say "slaughtered" gives the impression that there is an ongoing ethnic cleansing of Christians in the Muslim World, which is completely incorrect. Islam since day one taught Muslims to treat Christians decently and allow them freedom of worship. Incidents against these teachings are only exceptions.
When I write "slaughtered," that's exactly what I mean. Please don't change the definitions of words, your Liberal NewSpeak dictionary is an abomination to the English language. I mean that armed bands of Muslims go to homes of Christians and murder them all, and if a Christian looks at somebody funny that person is chased down and killed by small mobs. And authorities do nothing to stop any of this, because these are Muslim nations, and the murder of "infidels" is not a great crime.
This is such a load of crap. I know numerous Christian Arabs from various countries who are not threatened by Muslims in the least. Furthermore I have actually been to 4 Muslim countries to date and seen the Christian and Muslim populations interacting which is not uncommon. You have no idea about the daily lives of Muslims or Christian Arabs which you make quite apparent.
I live in the US and I see the daily interactions here, and the people are nice and upstanding. I also know that there are 12mil reported violent crimes each year (500 instances per 100k people). In my life, I've never been one of these victims. So my experience and yours sometimes buck the system. So despite your account, there are documented cases of Muslim on Christian violence which go unpunished.
Obviously the myth of "slaughtering christians" existing only in your mind and your filthy sources of hate propaganda.
If you want counter examples, search for the Fremont CA Muslim woman that was shot in the head while going to pick up her kid from the school last October. All she did was wearing a Muslim hijab in a "Christian" nation!
How about the incident where a teenage Christian girl in Pakistan(?) dropped a Christian leaflet at a mosque entrance and was chased all the way into the local police station by Muslims carrying clubs, etc. They chased her into an open cell and killed her, then left. The Muslim policemen did nothing to stop them or arrest them afterwards. These kinds of attacks won't be found in the MSM because the MSM is anti-Western, anti-Christian. And yes, I found it in at least 2 legit sources.
Mr.Guff, you said " I mean that armed bands of Muslims go to homes of Christians and murder them all"... now you come up with a different story from an unknown source. Where in that alleged story did armed bands invade any homes? Aren't you ashamed of yourself? Can't you even keep your lying consistent?
This is just one of the types of incidents happening in Muslim nations. I never said organized armed bands were the only ones killing Christians, I did say Christians were being killed in Muslim nations without any interference from authorities. And you wanted to know of one, and I just provided you with one. What must I do, provide documents, eyewitness accounts, and video footage of everything I write? Why not you?
Guff, First you said "slaughtered" and defended your lousy use of the word. Now you can't support your claims about "documented cases" of Muslim authorites ignoring those alleged masacres. Then you claim that your irrelevant alleged story is an example that I asked for. I know that the slaughtering is a myth, that's why I never asked you for "an example". But it turns out that you want to embarrass yourself.
Why is it you demand full, complete, and indisputable evidence for my "claims" and those of others, while you offer NONE of your own? Then you throw out some witless insult. That's how you debate? Sorry, but from this I conclude you are nothing but a little twit. An annoying little twit who does nothing but offer bottled contrariness to everthing, regardless of its strength of argument, facts, or logic. Twit.
CBS News: google (CBS5 Afghan woman shot) and choose I'm feeling lucky
I carefully avoided asking you for your sources to give you an opportunity to cover your ass and give up the "slaughtering" myth. But there seems to be no hope that you realize the difference between facts and rumors until you stop listening to those radio talk shows and their hate propaganda.
Also, I'm wondering if you've come up with an answer to my question of what you believe is an "illegal war," since you never answered. I'm dying to read your definition.
An illegal war is a war against "the law that you ask others to abide by". Take for example, the Americans created and sponsored the United Nations and expect nations to abide by its international laws. That makes the invasion of Iraq, against UN's will, illegal. Israel claims its legitimacy based on the UN's recognition. But they are in violation of dozens of UN resolutions, including a resolution against the WALL. That's what illegal means. That's what hypocrisy is.
Sorry, you're wrong. And since when did UN rules supercede US law? I don't recall that one. Its called sovereignty. You can't be sovereign if you bow to another's will. And yes, the UN did give us permission to go into Iraq, they just chose to redefine they're threats after we made good on them. The UN is not the world's government, and we don't have to abide by their rules, we do so when its in our own interests. Please try again!
Guff, so you mean that if Iran wiped Israel (or maybe the US) off the map that will be perfectly legal and we will hear you, Mr. Guff, defending the Iranians for doing what serves "their interest". How hypocritical!
Your comments are so foolish because you don't even uderstand what you're debating. International law, like paper money, is meaningless. Its only value is given to it by people's willingness to give it value. When I say legal or illegal war, I'm not talking about "UN law."
Guff, you said "International law, like paper money".. How is American law any different? Your criminal personality make your interest supersede law. If you can break the law and go unpunished, you will definitely do it. Now I know that I should be looking for you in jails.
With US law there is a law enforcement authority, created by the Constitution of a sovereign nation. With int'l law, there is only the willingness of nations to adhere to it in order to maintain other agreements such as trade, extradition, & diplomatic safety. For a "mastermind" you sure don't have a clue about much, do you? You yourself say that Israel has broken int'l law many times. What punishment have they received? Who has authority over a sovereign nation? You're the one who is pathetic.
Guff, you are basically saying that the UN is nothing but a cover that strong nations use to subdue weaker nations, using a the work "law" to deceive peoples into believing that the UN has any legitimacy. The UN, according to you, is nothing but a colonialist tool. I heard your ideas in a speech by Osama bin Laden. Are you related somehow?
"mushmind" I didn't say that, YOU said that. Because that's what you WANT the UN to be. The UN was created ONLY to be a place where nations could discuss their problems in a diplomatic setting. That's all. And no, it has no real authority over anybody, unless we choose to let it. You really have no clue about what the real world is like, do you? You live in a bubble. And no, I doubt I'm related to bin Laden. But you should ask him in your next love letter.
Guff..you think that I have no clue about what the real world is. The fact is, I know how it should be. Your immoral "myself first, and to the hell with others" is what makes any attempt to solve problems diplomatically useless. You and your likes are the cause of instability in the world.
"mushmind" - EVERYBODY knows how the world "should" be, because everybody has their own opinion, or in your case, fantasy. Some, like you, believe the world should be made of chocolate and lolipops, but as adults we live in the real world. So go learn about that for a change. What an idiot.
So you agree that the world should be governed by a fair law? Why do you defend those who break the law then? Why do you try to justify transgression by the worthlessness of law??
The criminals who try to justify their sins by blaming the the "reality" of the world, are the very reason why the "reality" of the world is so mean.
messedupmind860, i think any country could try to make the bomb, and i also think any country has the right to try to stop that country from making the bomb. YOU LOSE!
Neocon, so you believe that you should have the bomb but others shouldn't. What's next? I think the difference between our beliefs and personalities are clear. You care only about yourself, your race, your interests, while I call for justice for all. God approves not injustice.
860,anybody who says they will wipe another country off the map should not have the bomb like iran. however i do not have any problem with responsible countries who dont threaten their neighbors with having the bomb. just not jihadists like your people. so i am racist. a racist against murdering theocratic dictatorships. what is your country of origin?
So those who threaten to use bombs shouldn't have it? And why are the others keeping their bombs then, to use them for fireworks on July 4th?
If those who threaten shouldn't have it, why should those who already used it keep it? about countries that have already done it? Have you ever heard of Hiroshima?
860, you are lobbing soft balls right over the plate and i am knocking you out of the park every time. hiroshima probably saved 300,000 lives bec. the usa would have had to invade the island of japan causing untold amounts of casualties. so lets get this straight you believe evil countries who threaten genocide should have the bomb? you are not a formidable opponent. you are a joke. do you really believe what you just wrote?
do you believe that a murderous dictatorship like iran should have the bomb. YES OR NO! I WANT AN ANSWER.dont talk about isreal bec she already has the bomb. should iran have the bomb. its not that complicated.
What a silly question from a silly person. No one ever should have the bomb, you idiot. Not Iran, not the US and definitely not the aggressive and critically unstable Israel. Because Israel is allowed to keep its bombs, Iran claims they have the right to seek it. Solution: ban everyone from using it, starting with the Israel. The entire world should unite against that monster bomb that can wipe out humanity any minute.
860, you are not living in the real world. there is a bomb isreal and the usa have it and evil countries like iran want it. here is another question is iran an evil regime was saddam evil. yes or no. stop dodging the question. your naivety from your last comment is very telling about your knowledge of world affairs. maybe if we just make nice with mr. terrorist he would just leave us alone.
Wow, you really know how to twist ideas around to suit your retarded logic. Nobody said law was worthless. I wrote that the UN has NO AUTHORITY to enforce any of their "laws." The UN does not have sovereign rule over any nation. Its a give and take. Why can't you understand? If it isn't this way, where in the Constitution does it say the UN must be consulted before attacking another country in our defense?
Only western leftists could define protecting your lives and the lives of your children as "Hate"
oldstock1607 1 year ago
Israel should stop dropping bombs on the palestinians and start dropping soap. My God, palestinians are fucking animals. No wonder why other arabs countries allow them to be pseudo-nomads. No one wants the putrid shit. Rachel Corrie, if you're out there listening? Hope you're part of the 72 virgin whores........
kcufmalsi 1 year ago
i've been studying this conflict now for several months. im am just about to finish a dissertation on the subject and can i just say that if you cant see that this video it is bias and has doesnt take into account any of the israeli efforts at all, then you are an idiot. i am totally objective in this matter and actually i do disagree with 'this' wall i do think its wrong, but sweeping statements by people like 'PaloSoldierofAllah' and 'ZionistsAreLiars' are completley unfounded
tank0you0cum0agen 1 year ago
we have been opperessed for over half acentury we can live with it and fight for our freedom for another 10 century.we do suffer and tough but we stimulate our stregnth from our holly book the Great Quran !!! meaning will never ever ever give up our rights in this land or any other moslims land,look around you ll know action speaks louder than words ,thanks to Allah almojahdeen are every where fighting back western aggression
PaloSoldierofAllah 2 years ago
There are nobody more dangerous than a brainwashed zionist... Their leaders are experts in lying and decieving them. Which furthers their aim in creating Antisemitism to further their cause for a zionist state..ZIONISM PROMOTES ANTISEMITISM..
ZionistsAreLiars 2 years ago
shame on jews who occupied palestine
mohsinlover66 3 years ago
Oh Allah, Please help these Palestine people! You're Most Gracious Most Mercifull.
myzonedr 3 years ago
It's no wonder why Jews have always been a hated people throughout history. We Americans better wake up soon they are ruining our country at a rapid pace!
alphamaleman7 3 years ago
This is extremely sad, I never knew what was happening to the Palestinians, all I see on TV is Israel defending itself against "terrorist" Hamas. Nothing is reported about the plight of Palestinians or the activities of Israelis. This is amazing that stuff like this is happening in this day and age. My parents went through colonization by the British and it's pretty much the same thing Israeli's are doing.
raburu 3 years ago
fuck Israel
zaidpakistan 3 years ago 5
I honestly CANNOT see how the Israelis can stomach this if THEY were persecuted, stripped of rights, robbed of their homes, and sent to concentration camps a mere 70 years ago. What can I say...history repeats itself. Its sickening.
chaosbringer127 3 years ago 2
Because they never were really persecuted. All people living in Israel has been trained since elementery school to be indoctrinated as "victims", and if they didn't act like nazi's, people would come and destroy them. That is why you find 1000's of these videos and news stories scrubbed from the tv, radio, and newspapers. Even the internet.
iggy6 3 years ago
how could USA and UN support this
abboooody 3 years ago 4
lol, they even spy on America!!! Americans just really need a wake up call...i really dont know how...all i can do is hope...they are feeding this zionists...
plakkie123456 3 years ago
This video is shocking and the relevant countries of the world just sit back and observe with hands folded. What is happening to Human Rights, UN in 2008? That wall was not built for Israel's claimed protection but to steal and occupy 40% of arrable Palestinian land for the Jews. Israel and America who is funding them are the biggest terrorists today. Wall of shame and countries of shame.
meg28scot 3 years ago 2
Ther wall has stopped the suicide bombers and saves lives.
historicrecord 3 years ago
It is because Israel are occupying and oppressing the Palestinians also imprisoning thousands of their men for years without release is why suicide bombers are targeting Israel in retaliation. If Israel withdrew their hundreds of street checkpoints and barbaric soldiers, returned the land to the Arabs,released their men, the bombers would stop. Being fed Israeli propoganda for years just like the western media, this is usually the opinion which you have. No media permited in Gaza, work it out.
meg28scot 3 years ago
Really meg ! I thought it was part of their insidious ideology and the promise of paradise and 40 virgins. So Al Qaida bombed London Underground & crashed into World Trade Centre because UK/USA occupies arab lands ? Now you really make sense ???
historicrecord 3 years ago
It has nothing to with Al Qaida, you are just playing with terms to sympathize with israel. You only see poor people dying because of suicide bombers but do you see poor palestinian kids dying anywhere on your TV? you are just a victim of your media.
bazzoola 3 years ago
true...thats how they attacked Iraq...just using the word Al Qaida...
plakkie123456 3 years ago
meg - No media permitted in Gaza ? Really that's why we have perpetual news reports !
Perhaps the kidnapping of BBC journalist Alan Johnstone and many other journalists has something to do with the reason why so many are afraid to go there.
historicrecord 3 years ago
The wall stops everything!
Why don't just kill them all and take their land wouldn't that also stop suicide bombing?
bazzoola 3 years ago
this wall will terminate itself one day.justice will be restored. I can see it coming. by reading most of the comments on this video i came to the result that truth has been distorted.
horsefacehorseface 4 years ago
Well of "elemental evil Lv5"
lol islamofags.
LongShlong125 4 years ago
Why did Israel have terrorist attacks on its country before the occupation and on the Jews there before the establishment of Israel? The security fence is not there to reenforce Israel's occupation or make Palestinians suffer. It's there to protect Israeli civilians. By the way, Israel no longer occupies Gaza and Sderot is paying the price for the disengagement.
Dendoi 4 years ago
You are right Dendoi - Israel has pulled out of Gaza and they still attack Israel by firing rockets into her Towns. The barrier saves lives and only frustrates the suicide bombers.
historicrecord 4 years ago
Your very wrong my friend, type Israel/Palestine on YouTube and see how wrong you are. That wall was not built to protect the Jews from the Muslims but so that Israel, illegally stole Gaza land for the Jewish settlements. That wall covers half their land making it illegal. They have not left Gaza, far from it, Isr. soldiers have checkpoints on every street in Gaza restricting their livelihood in every sense, oppressing and slaughtering them daily. Watch the films smuggled out of Gaza and learn.
meg28scot 3 years ago
meg - The barrier is in the West Bank & NOT Gaza. Israel evacuated 9000 Jews & 17 settlements in 2005 yet 8000 rockets have been fired into Israel.The checkpoints are in the West Bank & not Gaza - read & learn.
historicrecord 3 years ago
sorry friend this is exactly what Israel wants you to think and why there is no media permitted in Gaza.
If the soldiers at the hundreds of checkpoints, issuing passes to those they wish, not permitting them to move without permission and killing civilians daily, restricting basic amenities, still bulldozing homes are not Israeli who are they then? Watch Israel/Palestine on YouTube and learn. The camera does not lie. It is inhuman, who are the terrorists here?
meg28scot 3 years ago 2
Israel should take over the middle east, then there will be peace. Or you can leave it the way it is, with Muslims turning into crap worse and worse each year. I'm sorry, but if you're a Muslim, you need to start worrying about your salvation, and quit listening to propoganda by the middle east.
AngelusOctavius 4 years ago
dirty jews!
longlivePersia 4 years ago
Hello cousin
OOOOOOOOOOOH, you arrrre mekin mowa controversy wid ya lil vidoe posts
we still llve you though. and yoooh are coolio
Bye Bye
Love,
Haifa and Meem
08000838383 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
ALL YOU MUSLIMS HERE ARE FORGETTING A FEW THINGS. THE BLOOD THIRTSY TERRORISTS ARE THE ONES WHO FORCED ISREAL TO PUT UP THIS WALL AND AS YOU CAN TELL ATTACKS ON ISREAL HAVE PLUMMETED. SO THE WALL WORKS! DON'T ANY OF YOU EVER FORGET THAT IT WAS EGYPT, JORDAN, AND SYRIA WHO WERE THE ONES WHO ATTACKED ISREAL IN 1967. NO WAR, NO OCCuPATION. STOP STARTING WARS.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
the UN is so quiet on this. injustice in the world. D=
prana888 4 years ago
i'm not religious at all, but this support of israel over palestine is sickening. how could any self respecting jew consider this treatment of others fair after their WWII suffering. fu%$ing losers!
schmoonzer1 4 years ago 7
I'm finally coming clean and admitting that I'm a proud Turkish Muslim.
I also admit that I'm 100% behind the Iranian Islamic Regime and that Ahmadinejad is my hero.
I'm waiting for the 13th Imam to appear.
When I enter into paradise, I will remind Allah that I like young 12 year old girls. They can be my houris. I will also ask him to throw in some young boys too, as is our Islamic custom.
Bantbum 4 years ago
You are bull shetting ediot
Who sayed you can be gay in Islam ...!!!
perazh 4 years ago
I have heard that although the Koran forbids homosexual sex, gay sex is very rampent in the Muslim World. It would only stand to reason, Muslims are segregated by gender and they value chaste women. I understand it's very normal for guys to screw around with men until they get married--of course it's totally on the downlow.
magickmatt138 3 years ago
and how is this related to the video?
bazzoola 3 years ago
hey u stupid stinky ass, can't u c whats going on in this world?
bedalaga 3 years ago
Who are they enemy now Im confussed .
uncledave10 4 years ago
Time will come when Europe and the Muslims will unite against the zionist terror!
batman4e 4 years ago 3
Who is using "targeted killing" ?
Who is not compying with the International Court of Justice in the Hague? Who has nuclear bomb in the area? Who is not complying with UN resolution 242 and 338? Who is building an Apartheid wall? Who is demolishing homes while the inhabitants are inside?
Leave the occupied territories!!!!
batman4e 4 years ago 2
You're the stupid, dude. The zionist terror has no respect for international law.
batman4e 4 years ago 2
history has proved time and again that might is right, at least as long as the might lasts.israel was jewish who then lost it to the romans who became xns and they then lost it to the muslims who have now lost it to the jews.the jews today have as much right to claim the holy land today as did saladin after the crusades.both sides of the conflict have a lot of geography to rewrite and a lot of history to forget. its in their best interest to do so.if they care for their survival, that is.
yish007 4 years ago
Oh please, slautering Palestinians LOL that makes me laugh. You arab scum terrorists send people to blow up nursing homes, you purposely target public places and then try to make yourselves the "victim". This is nothing but arab propaganda.
MonkeesLuv62 4 years ago
.SLAUGHTERING `PALESTINIANS AT A RATIO OF "8 to 1" AND THEN CLAIMING YOU ARE THE VICTIM OF TERRORISM^ AND ANTISEMITISM IS SIMPLY LAUGHABLE BY ANY RATIONAL, LOGIC, RELIGION OR CREED. NO EXCUSE* IS CREDIBLE FOR THESE LEVELS OF TERRORISM. NOT EVEN THE JEWISH HOLY TORAH ALLOWS KILL~ING BEYOND AN EYE FOR AN EYE!
PLEASE MEMORIZE AND HELP POST THIS COMMENT ON MANY OTHER ISRAEL RELATED VIDEOS.
alphautubeone 4 years ago
dna 1987, shut the hell up, the palestinean race deserves to be slaughtered completely
bobafett13921 4 years ago
"ynetnews: Get out of there
Idan Ben-Barak, who lives in Australia, tells fellow Israelis it's time to leave Jewish State.
Published: 04.25.07, 19:40 / Israel Opinion"
At least there is one smart Jew!
mastermind860 4 years ago
God doesn't like oppression. Justice will win in the end.
mastermind860 4 years ago
new york post 4/23/07
a boy about 12 years old cut off the head of a member of the taliban suspected of spying for america in afghanistan
the muslims are blood thirsty murderers and child abusers. their culture is sickening.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
What do you expect New York to say about the Taliban?! And suddenly "the Taliban" are exchangeable with "the Muslims". Very objective indeed!
mastermind860 4 years ago 2
Again, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you got it totally wrong.
mastermind860 4 years ago
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but evil is bound to perish.
mastermind860 4 years ago
zionist's are devils alive, they dont just hate palestenian's they hate them self.. 1 day they will all Vanish .Evil does not stay.
dudulicious 4 years ago 2
NEOCON...israel killed 25 children in one day. i dont think that your army is that stupid, or mayb they r.we fight behind our wifes skirts like cowards you say,so wt do u call fighting from airplanes like pussies and throwin bombs all over the place as if it was a video game or som shit ... i dont hate jews, i love SOME jews. zach braff is my favourite actor ... but i hate children killers, terrorists who take over lands tht isnt theirs ... PEACE OUT :)
amrelsayyed 4 years ago
amrel, you live in a dream world, do you remember jenin?? there were no airplanes used. the isrealis always go house to house searching for your evil friends in gaza and kill them like the rats they are! the isrealis only use helicopters to blow your heroes the hamas leaders to paradise where they claim to want to go.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
humanity is at stake ???
galuiot 4 years ago
all walls will fall.the wall must fall, and so it will
luxretia 4 years ago
lux, you say the wall must fall and it will.
this is the same wall that is responsible for saving the lives of countless jews in isreal. don't you remember in 2001 thru '03 there were countless buses, pizza parlors, discos, market places blown up killing people indiscriminately?? since the wall was built that munber is almost negligible.
i guess you want the wall down so more jews can be murdered.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
The purpose of the wall is to rule out the possibility of any future two-state solution. And the Palestinians don't want to kill "the Jews", they just want their land back. I'm sure they will be very happy if the Jews left Palestine, alive. But it seems that you are not giving them any other options.
mastermind860 4 years ago
MESSEDUPMIND860, the purpose of the wall is to save the lives of jews. the proof is that before the wall there were jews being murdered on buses, discos, pizza shops, etc.
after the wall, the amount of jews being killed went down dramatically. this is a fact. your blood thirsty terrorist buddies wish they could still kill jews. instead they are being killed.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
If the oppressed can't find a way to overcome the Wall today, I guarantee they will one day.
You want to sound as if you care about the lives of Jews, but you don't. All you care about is the biblical prophecies that will destroy the Jewish nation. The only way to save the Jews is to send all immigrants back where they belong and give the land back to its real owners, the Palestinians. Otherwise, all the Walls of the worlds won't protect them. And we'll see.
mastermind860 4 years ago
Shit Happens!
RehobothBeach 4 years ago
believster, the only thing the terrorists were targeting in isreal was civilians. it has been well documented how the hezbollah would parade around the dead for the cameras and bring their dead from one location to the next. don't believe me google"hezbollah propoganda" and see what anderson cooper has to say from cnn. (hardly a right winger). a war was started, not by israel and the blame is squarely were it belongs, with the terrorists!
NEOCON999 4 years ago
You rock. you are correct. Thw wall is up to protect Israel from suicide bombings. Other nations would respond like Israel if they had to put up with those daily terrorist attacks from terrorists dedicated to eliminating that country.
Dendoi 5 years ago
Don't get me wrong, i'm not condoning Israeli military actions, because they are disproportionate. However, I do realize why they've decided to build a wall, and don't see that as wrong. I also have a problem with people bitching and complaining about Israel, but not speaking out against hamas and hezbollah killing innocent Israeli citizens. People are hypocrites.
believerster 5 years ago
The mass jewish migration to Palestine in the 20th century and the subsequent jewish colonization of Palestinian land is what started all violence in the middle east. The indigenous Palestinian population had no option but to fight for their land, exactly the same thing anyone else would do.
mastermind860 5 years ago
That pretty much sums it up. So the arabs resort to violence because they don't like people migrating? There are lots of Muslims migrating to the uk, should I start a fucking mob and so slaughter their women and children?
believerster 5 years ago
Spot the difference: Arabs migrating to Britian with permission of British government AND Jews migrating to Palestine with permission of British government (when the british occupied Palestine). It doesn't take a high IQ to spot the difference. In the first case the indiginous British population of Britain welcomed the incoming Muslims, while in the second, the indiginous Arab population was against foreign Jews settling in Arab's land.
mastermind860 5 years ago
And why would arabs oppose jews moving onto arab land? Maybe because of inherant anti-antisemitism?
believerster 5 years ago
What's your evidence for saying that the indigenous British population welcomes incoming Muslims?
archdukemaximilian 4 years ago
British government, elected by British people, continues to grant visas to Muslim (among other immigrants) to come and work and live in the UK. Compare that to the Jewish immigrants who fled to Palestine during the first half of the 20th century, while Palestinians were under British occupation and Palestinians never approved such mass immigration into their territory. It's a no brainer!
mastermind860 4 years ago
believster, i know we are on the same page politically, however i would like to respectfully disagree that isreali force being disproportionate is wrong.
if you only hit back tit for tat you cannot stop your enemy from attacking you in the future. you must completely destroy your enemies capacity to make war. that is how you stop them and the proof is that attacks from palestinians have almost comepletely stopped. the japenese during world war two would be another example.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
Your name being neocon, I doubt we are on the same page politically :P
believerster 4 years ago
believe, i dont really care if we are on the same page politically. why dont you answer the comment i sent you.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
I was refering more to Israel's lebanese assault than the palestinians. And bombing the crap out of a people may be a way to stop attacks, but I can't justify that, in the same way as I can't justify the Japanese being a-bombed.
believerster 4 years ago
believster, we arent given enough space for me to comment on lebonon. but i'll try anyway. the terrorists are responsible for any and every civilian death on both sides. they fight from behind their womens skirts like cowards. and deliver missiles from civilian locales. there was over 5000 katyusha missiles rained down on isreal, should isreal not respond? if isreal wanted to they can kill 90,000 lebenese. isreal went out of their way to not target civilians.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
believster, you said and i quote,"bombing the hell out of people may be a way to stop attacks, but i cant justify that". i bet you could justify it if was your mother who was the one being attacked. these are my mothers and brothers who are being attacked. your damn right i can justify it. and japan, if we would have invaded the island, there would have been an estimated million more deaths on both sides caused. truman actually saved lives with the bomb.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
Anyone can claim that by killing one person they are saving thousands, but don't forget that the one person is an innocent person, and by killing him you've just killed an innocent and you'll be held accountable for that in the Day of Judgement.
mastermind860 4 years ago
Israeli military actions disproportionate? Please, I condemn the killing of any innocent civilian but Israel intends to hit the terrorists. why is the USA's acts in Afghanistan not disportionate if Israel's actions are?
Dendoi 4 years ago
what can i do to help palistineans from the true terrorist
dahlfaze 5 years ago
The Quran is the only holy scripture that is literally preserved in its original form and is scientifically correct. Although Muslims believe in the Torah of Moses and the Gospels of Jesus, there is undeniable evidence that these have been corrupted by the hand of man. One can clearly see the evident racism among Jews and the evident polytheism among Christians. Only Islam preserves the pure universal monotheistic religion of Abraham.
mastermind860 5 years ago
You are an idiot. Scientific evidence in the Quran, lol.
believerster 5 years ago
Quran 28:55 {And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant.'}
mastermind860 5 years ago
messedupmind, calling jews the soms of pigs and apes and refurring to us as people who incur gods wrath isnt racist??? you are a funny person. although truly pathetic.
NEOCON999 4 years ago
Peace will return to the Holy Land, to the City of Peace, only when it is ruled by people who believe that the city is holy to Jews, Christians and Muslims. ONLY MUSLIMS DO BELIEVE THAT.
What is happening in Palestine now is a perfect example of how the world looks like when the Jews who consider followers of other religions to be animals, take control.
mastermind860 5 years ago
And how do Muslims intend to take the Holy Land? By acting like barbaric animals?
musicmaniacmann 4 years ago
real muslims dont do that , Our religoun does no teach us to behave like that, not some shit that goes and blows himself up hes just a so called muslim, just by name. We all know who acts barbaric, we all know who live like animals. Everybody knows who are the zionist's.
dudulicious 4 years ago
Peace will return to the Holy Land, to the City of Peace, only when it is ruled by people who believe that the city is holy to Jews, Christians and Muslims. ONLY MUSLIMS CAN BELIEVE THAT.
mastermind860 5 years ago
860, here is another history lesson, before 1967 the jews were forbidden from going to the western wall because jordan would not allow it. only when we kicked your peoples ass in a war they started did the jews finally come home to their holiest sight. today christians and moslims pray where ever they want in jerusalem (when they are not throwing stones). and this is happening when jews are in control. you are just not up to the task of taking me on. this is too easy.
NEOCON999 5 years ago
860, you need another history lesson. before 1967 the jews were forbidden from going to the western wall to prey. only after we kicked arab ass in a war they started did we finally come home to our holiest sight. today all people can prey where ever they want(as long as they dont throw rocks) in jerusalem. this is happening while jews are in control. youre just not up to the task of taking me on. this is just too easy.
NEOCON999 5 years ago
Man what a load of CRAP.
Israel is building the wall like the CHINA wall not the Berlin wall... to keep the animals out of their country and only pass through correct border crossings.
WOW .. crossing at border crossings ?! THAT is so crazy? Yet palestineans don't do it, so it forces Israel to build a wall.
Plus they are NOT building the wall at Jordanian border. Thats will be Jordanians problem.
jabberwolf 5 years ago
jabber, the wall is in a land where peoples from all faiths lived in harmony under the Islamic rule for centuries. The Zionist plot of Jewish mass migration to Palestine, and the subsequent "imposition" of a state of Israel on the native people of Palestine is what sparked all violence in the region. Finally, the Israelis are trying to imprison the Palestinians within that wall, to prevent them from entering a land that has always been theirs. Please put yourself in others shoes for a moment
mastermind860 5 years ago
imposition on the natives. HA! the natives are the jews they have been living in judea for more than 3000 years. a little history lesson, the pals were offered a country next to isreal but they refused. dumb move like everything that comes from the arabic world. instead they chose war and lost badly. TOO BAD. YOUR PEOPLE NEVER MISS A CHANCE, TO MISS CHANCE. your loss.
NEOCON999 5 years ago
neocon, interpreting your false claim that "the jews they have been living in judea for more than 3000 years" leads to one of the following conclusions:
1. You know nothing about English, because the use of the present-perfect-continuous tense means that they lived and continued to live up till the moment
2. You know nothing about history, because there were no Jews (<3%) living in Palestine for more than 1300 years until the 20th century mass migration from Eastern Europe and other areas.
mastermind860 5 years ago
860, you just said it yourself,the jews were always there all be it a minority. never the less they were always there. have you ever been to the old city of safad, there are graves from rabbi josoph caro he died in 1575 or rabbi isaac loria who died in 1572 i dont have enough space but i can go on and on. clearly your ignorance is blossoming with every talk back.
NEOCON999 5 years ago
neocon, the Jews who have been living in Palestine for 3000 years, as a minority (<3%) are most welcome to continue to live in Palestine peacefully as they always did under Islamic rule. But European Jews are illegal settlers and will be sent back home one day, sooner than you think.
mastermind860 5 years ago
860, there is no substance to your comments. i'm getting bored
NEOCON999 5 years ago
Everything must be under "ISLAMIC" rule for you.
Guess what... NO
NO MORE LIES, NO MORE RULE
NO MORE FAKE RELIGION, NO MORE FAKE HISTORY!
The world says NO MORE !!
jabberwolf 5 years ago
They have not lived in peace for centuries. For centuries there were wars after wars.
British and French returned lands to Arabs.
But Arabs rejected Balfour, 1948 and numerous times tried to destroy Israel.
IMPRISON? there is only 1 wall.. between Israel and West bank!!!! STUPID IDIOT !!!
They can go anywhere they want... but they MUST pass through secure border first!
Muslims NOW must deal with a WALL because they are animals and cannot learn this!
jabberwolf 5 years ago
PALESTINEANS HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE!!
The term "palestine" has been around for a long time BUT
the term "palestineans" has only been around since 1920.
Turkey and British BOTH took population counts and "ISRAEL" area had very few people. Palestineans try to point to "PALESTINEAN" population count but that INCLUDED ALL OF JORDAN AS WELL!!!
Get your facts straight you idiot!
jabberwolf 5 years ago
jabber, "Palestinians have never been in Palestine"..Oh yeah, it was the Indians. How silly!
And the claim that "Israel land was Empty" is even sillier. Every country in the world has some "empty" land. Name one country that will happily allow millions of people occupy those "empty" lands and establish a state there!
mastermind860 5 years ago
No walls will protect you from God's wrath. No walls will protect you from His punishment. Imprison yourselves in your "kingdom" and wait for His judgement.
mastermind860 5 years ago
what is your answer to p'era adom (wild ass of a man)? do you deny the truly wild nature of your people. this isn't racism this is an accurate description of your people that was prophesized by the torah (g-d) 3800 years ago.
NEOCON999 5 years ago
My answer is: who do you think my people are? The sons of Ismael, or Muslims from every race including many of the sons of Isaac?
mastermind860 5 years ago
messedupmind860, like i said before, when g-d appears to the muslim people in all his glory and says that you are my nation and i have chosen you above all others like he did with the jews. then i will agree with your premises from the koran. until then it is just a "book" like the new testament.(read exodus, i know your religion does not allow you to do such a thing but maybe you can ask a biblical scholar)
NEOCON999 5 years ago
Compare the racism of your version of Judaism, and universality of Islam:
Quran (3:110) talking to Muslims, "You are the best of peoples, brought forth to mankind, you enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong, and believe in God. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
No matter who your parents are, Islam gives you a chance to be among the best people.
mastermind860 5 years ago
I could not verify this however I will respond under the assumption that you are being honest. I could find a scant few cases of anything crappy happening which is no indication of the norm. You'd need numerous cases which represent atleast a moderate percentage of a population. For example in US history rapists murdereds as well as hate crime get off the hook here and there. Not to mention money buying the rich out of trouble. Sometimes the justice system fails people in every area.
Linaverse 5 years ago
This should be renamed "The Wall of Necessity." Israel didn't build it on the spur of the moment thinking, nor as a symbol of racism. They built it only after long deliberation after enduring decades of terrorism. They didn't want to build it, but felt they had to. And the numbers don't lie, it has helped to lower the number of terrorist incidents in Israel. It the "Palestinians" fault that this wall is up.
NoGuff 5 years ago
The wall is an inevitable result of racism, of the injustice that has been done to the Palestinian people. It is the Palestinians fault that they couldn't do enough to stop the Jewish mass migration to Palestine early enough. It's the Palestinians fault that they left the British occupation give the Jewish settlers more and more land and control. God doesn't accept injustice, that's why the Jewish state will perish sooner or later.
mastermind860 5 years ago
messedupmind860, of course its not the palestinians fault they couldnt stop the mass migration of jews to palestine they were never in charge of palestine. it wasnt up to them. however the british did let them in, and they came legally, not like mexicans who cross in the dark of night, but with a passport to the palestinian immigration office run by britain.
NEOCON999 5 years ago
How does it sound if those Mexicans got into America with a passport to the American immigration office run by the Iranians? Do you expect the Americans to accept this as a legal immigration?
mastermind860 5 years ago
860, if iran was running america there is not much i could do. however, britain was running palestine and was in charge of the gov't. you are talking about things that are not happening and i am talking about actual history. once more 860, CHECKMATE. you lose
NEOCON999 5 years ago
If Iran were running America, and you sit back saying happily saying that there is nothing you can do, I will call you a traitor. Real patriots will fight back for their freedom, exactly like Palestinian militants are doing now. Pigs, however, will just eat shit and say that's all we can do.
btw...as a typical idiot, the more you talk the more you embarrass yourself. sometimes shutting yourself up is the best answer.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Laydee Lib - I can't describe just how stupid your comment is. So you're saying that if my ancestors didn't live in a certain place, then I shouldn't even think about living there? I live in the U.S., I was born here, and you know what? I belong here! And so if Arabs should be able to kick Jews out of Israel, then how about we kick all Arabs out of the U.S.? Great! Thanks!
NoGuff 5 years ago
Mr NoGuff the Idiot, Arabs entered the US with full permission from its people, Jews occupied Palestine against the will of its people. You can't see the difference because you are a blind racist zionist.
mastermind860 5 years ago
"mastermind" (now, that's irony!) - There was no recognized (or organized) state of "Palestine." Israel became a recognized nation, and is to this day. That's called "legitimacy." Look it up. The Israelis are not squatters. The issue is moot now.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Mr.Guff, it doesn't matter if you or your colonial masters recognize an illegitimate jewish state that was established on a land confiscated by force . Have you forgotten that the country that gave Israel legitimacy, i.e. the US, is a country that has been created through illegal settlements of colonialists and ethnic cleansing of native inhabitants. Ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, confiscation of the land of Palestine sounds like legitimate, isn't it?
mastermind860 5 years ago
If you want to you could rebuke every legit monarch who rose to the throne through murder, too. Nobody refutes how the US was formed, and today it honestly doesn't matter. Rome was built by force, and you say it wasn't legitimate? How many years did Rome exist? And so if you say, we should just erase it from the history books. How many nations were NOT formed by force, please answer that question.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Mr.Guff. You've just admitted that Israel was formed by force, by a continuous process of land confiscation and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. If you think that this what legitimacy is about, then don't be surprised if others use force to wipe out Israel.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Mr. mastermind, and you just dodged my question. Please name some countries that were either not formed by force, or didn't need to protect themselves by force, from enemies inside or outside their borders. It would be nice to debate with some who's head was not in the sand. Wake up! Violence is part of life, it's just that we tolerate a justified use of force and we don't tolerate terrorism or madness.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Every people have to use force at some point of their history. We are debating whether this is right or wrong, legal or illegal. Your attempt to put occupation and ethnic cleansing in the same basket with self-defense is tasteless. While the Jewish confiscation of Palestinian land and the ethnic cleansing against Palestinian Muslims and Christians is illegal, Palestinian self-defense is perfectly legal.
mastermind860 5 years ago
You think I'm equating ethnic cleansing and self defense. You're wrong. I asked what nations were started without use of force, and you didn't answer, and turned my intention around. I find that tasteless. Plus you agreed with my point that no nation exists without violence, or at least the threat of it.
NoGuff 5 years ago
why are you saying israel was created by force? the u.n. created it. however it was the arabs who ruthlessly attacked the fledgling state in 1948 upon its inception. thus the use of force was used to keep it a state. not the other way around
NEOCON999 5 years ago
The United States was created by the signing of a document, but those people had to defend that decision with force. Israel also had to use force to defend its existence at its inception. Thats what I'm talking about. Almost all nations had to use force in some way at their start. This "mastermind" doesn't even know what he's arguing. Libs living in Fairyland think the world's made of gingerbread and lollipops.
NoGuff 5 years ago
messedupmind860 thinks palstinians arent arabs. he hasnt answered any questions posed to him and thinks there is nothing wrong with terrorism and the israelis are involved with ethnic cleansing.if the israelis were doing ethnic cleansing they could wipe out thousands within seconds. however if the pals could do the same they would do it without thinking
NEOCON999 5 years ago
Mr.Guff, people thinking like you are the ones giving terrorists legitimacy. Terrorists signed a document that makes the world theirs. Then they are defending that decision by force. Very legitimate!!!
mastermind860 5 years ago
"messedupmind" - It is you and your Liberal (socialist) brethren who are giving terrorists ligitimacy. With your prior statement, you demonstrate that by equating good with evil, which Bill O'Reilly coined as "relativism." And the most saddening part is that you don't even know you're doing it. That makes you a pawn of evil.
NoGuff 5 years ago
So the jewish migratation in hundreds of thousands to the land of Palestine, the forciful displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians i good. The Palestinians fighting back is evil. Got it.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Actually, the fighting is over, been over for decades. It the terrorism that's the problem. They're acting like children who didn't get the one toy they wanted, so they throw a tantrum. Only these tantrums spill blood. They should grow up and make a viable community for themselves.
NoGuff 5 years ago
The fighting is not over until the Muslims give up their God-given right to live with full freedom in the land of their fathers and grandfathers. If your morality is low enough to allow you to accept the Jewish use of force to take over Palestine, and to describe the Palestinian resisitance as child play, then there is no need for this discussion and let's wait until the children grow up and kick the Zionists out of Palestine, forever.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Okay, fine by me. I'm more than happy to stop talking to a wall. So let's go ahead and do as you say, wait. You be sure to let me know when all of this comes to pass. Okay?
NoGuff 5 years ago
History proves that oppression never lasts, and like all transgressors, the zionist empire built on the land of Palestine will eventually fall...again.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Prior to 1948, hundreds of thousands of Jews migrated to Palestine, forming a militia that terrorized the native population of Palestine, committed massacres against the Palestinian, and burned entire Palestinian villages forcing its Palestinian population to flee. When they terrorized enough natives and occupied enough land, the declared a state. Stop pretending that Israel just emrged peacefully, because this sounds so naive and, in fact, pure stupid.
mastermind860 5 years ago
whatnthe hell are you talking about where is your proof. are you talking about during time of war.look at what happened in gaza today. fatah and hamas are killing each other 25 dead. killing is in their blood. i chronicled for you the 1929 massacre. an unprovoked attack on jews. i dont know of the burned villages you are talking about.(maybe dair yassin but this was in 1948 during war)
NEOCON999 5 years ago
That kind of violence has been going on for hundreds of years, perpetrated by both sides. Right now Christians are being slaughtered en masse in other Islamic nations, family by family, village by village, and your socialist anti-American anti-Christian main stream media says not a word about it.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Mr.Guf the liar, can you mention the name of the country where Christians are slaughtered? I can only remember Israel.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Somalia, Ethiopia, and some other African nations. Read some news other than the usual anti-American, anti-Christian outlets like CNN, BBC, NBC, etc. And no, I didn't get this info from FNC.
NoGuff 5 years ago
I wouldn't be surprised if Christians got killed in Iraq, but to say "slaughtered" gives the impression that there is an ongoing ethnic cleansing of Christians in the Muslim World, which is completely incorrect. Islam since day one taught Muslims to treat Christians decently and allow them freedom of worship. Incidents against these teachings are only exceptions.
mastermind860 5 years ago
When I write "slaughtered," that's exactly what I mean. Please don't change the definitions of words, your Liberal NewSpeak dictionary is an abomination to the English language. I mean that armed bands of Muslims go to homes of Christians and murder them all, and if a Christian looks at somebody funny that person is chased down and killed by small mobs. And authorities do nothing to stop any of this, because these are Muslim nations, and the murder of "infidels" is not a great crime.
NoGuff 5 years ago
This is such a load of crap. I know numerous Christian Arabs from various countries who are not threatened by Muslims in the least. Furthermore I have actually been to 4 Muslim countries to date and seen the Christian and Muslim populations interacting which is not uncommon. You have no idea about the daily lives of Muslims or Christian Arabs which you make quite apparent.
Linaverse 5 years ago
I live in the US and I see the daily interactions here, and the people are nice and upstanding. I also know that there are 12mil reported violent crimes each year (500 instances per 100k people). In my life, I've never been one of these victims. So my experience and yours sometimes buck the system. So despite your account, there are documented cases of Muslim on Christian violence which go unpunished.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Obviously the myth of "slaughtering christians" existing only in your mind and your filthy sources of hate propaganda.
If you want counter examples, search for the Fremont CA Muslim woman that was shot in the head while going to pick up her kid from the school last October. All she did was wearing a Muslim hijab in a "Christian" nation!
mastermind860 5 years ago
How about the incident where a teenage Christian girl in Pakistan(?) dropped a Christian leaflet at a mosque entrance and was chased all the way into the local police station by Muslims carrying clubs, etc. They chased her into an open cell and killed her, then left. The Muslim policemen did nothing to stop them or arrest them afterwards. These kinds of attacks won't be found in the MSM because the MSM is anti-Western, anti-Christian. And yes, I found it in at least 2 legit sources.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Mr.Guff, you said " I mean that armed bands of Muslims go to homes of Christians and murder them all"... now you come up with a different story from an unknown source. Where in that alleged story did armed bands invade any homes? Aren't you ashamed of yourself? Can't you even keep your lying consistent?
mastermind860 5 years ago
This is just one of the types of incidents happening in Muslim nations. I never said organized armed bands were the only ones killing Christians, I did say Christians were being killed in Muslim nations without any interference from authorities. And you wanted to know of one, and I just provided you with one. What must I do, provide documents, eyewitness accounts, and video footage of everything I write? Why not you?
NoGuff 5 years ago
Guff, First you said "slaughtered" and defended your lousy use of the word. Now you can't support your claims about "documented cases" of Muslim authorites ignoring those alleged masacres. Then you claim that your irrelevant alleged story is an example that I asked for. I know that the slaughtering is a myth, that's why I never asked you for "an example". But it turns out that you want to embarrass yourself.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Why is it you demand full, complete, and indisputable evidence for my "claims" and those of others, while you offer NONE of your own? Then you throw out some witless insult. That's how you debate? Sorry, but from this I conclude you are nothing but a little twit. An annoying little twit who does nothing but offer bottled contrariness to everthing, regardless of its strength of argument, facts, or logic. Twit.
NoGuff 5 years ago
CBS News: google (CBS5 Afghan woman shot) and choose I'm feeling lucky
I carefully avoided asking you for your sources to give you an opportunity to cover your ass and give up the "slaughtering" myth. But there seems to be no hope that you realize the difference between facts and rumors until you stop listening to those radio talk shows and their hate propaganda.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Also, I'm wondering if you've come up with an answer to my question of what you believe is an "illegal war," since you never answered. I'm dying to read your definition.
NoGuff 5 years ago
An illegal war is a war against "the law that you ask others to abide by". Take for example, the Americans created and sponsored the United Nations and expect nations to abide by its international laws. That makes the invasion of Iraq, against UN's will, illegal. Israel claims its legitimacy based on the UN's recognition. But they are in violation of dozens of UN resolutions, including a resolution against the WALL. That's what illegal means. That's what hypocrisy is.
mastermind860 5 years ago
Sorry, you're wrong. And since when did UN rules supercede US law? I don't recall that one. Its called sovereignty. You can't be sovereign if you bow to another's will. And yes, the UN did give us permission to go into Iraq, they just chose to redefine they're threats after we made good on them. The UN is not the world's government, and we don't have to abide by their rules, we do so when its in our own interests. Please try again!
NoGuff 5 years ago
Guff, so you mean that if Iran wiped Israel (or maybe the US) off the map that will be perfectly legal and we will hear you, Mr. Guff, defending the Iranians for doing what serves "their interest". How hypocritical!
mastermind860 5 years ago
Your comments are so foolish because you don't even uderstand what you're debating. International law, like paper money, is meaningless. Its only value is given to it by people's willingness to give it value. When I say legal or illegal war, I'm not talking about "UN law."
NoGuff 5 years ago
Guff, you said "International law, like paper money".. How is American law any different? Your criminal personality make your interest supersede law. If you can break the law and go unpunished, you will definitely do it. Now I know that I should be looking for you in jails.
mastermind860 5 years ago
With US law there is a law enforcement authority, created by the Constitution of a sovereign nation. With int'l law, there is only the willingness of nations to adhere to it in order to maintain other agreements such as trade, extradition, & diplomatic safety. For a "mastermind" you sure don't have a clue about much, do you? You yourself say that Israel has broken int'l law many times. What punishment have they received? Who has authority over a sovereign nation? You're the one who is pathetic.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Guff, you are basically saying that the UN is nothing but a cover that strong nations use to subdue weaker nations, using a the work "law" to deceive peoples into believing that the UN has any legitimacy. The UN, according to you, is nothing but a colonialist tool. I heard your ideas in a speech by Osama bin Laden. Are you related somehow?
mastermind860 5 years ago
"mushmind" I didn't say that, YOU said that. Because that's what you WANT the UN to be. The UN was created ONLY to be a place where nations could discuss their problems in a diplomatic setting. That's all. And no, it has no real authority over anybody, unless we choose to let it. You really have no clue about what the real world is like, do you? You live in a bubble. And no, I doubt I'm related to bin Laden. But you should ask him in your next love letter.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Guff..you think that I have no clue about what the real world is. The fact is, I know how it should be. Your immoral "myself first, and to the hell with others" is what makes any attempt to solve problems diplomatically useless. You and your likes are the cause of instability in the world.
mastermind860 5 years ago
"mushmind" - EVERYBODY knows how the world "should" be, because everybody has their own opinion, or in your case, fantasy. Some, like you, believe the world should be made of chocolate and lolipops, but as adults we live in the real world. So go learn about that for a change. What an idiot.
NoGuff 5 years ago
So you agree that the world should be governed by a fair law? Why do you defend those who break the law then? Why do you try to justify transgression by the worthlessness of law??
The criminals who try to justify their sins by blaming the the "reality" of the world, are the very reason why the "reality" of the world is so mean.
mastermind860 5 years ago
messedupmind860, i think any country could try to make the bomb, and i also think any country has the right to try to stop that country from making the bomb. YOU LOSE!
NEOCON999 5 years ago
Neocon, so you believe that you should have the bomb but others shouldn't. What's next? I think the difference between our beliefs and personalities are clear. You care only about yourself, your race, your interests, while I call for justice for all. God approves not injustice.
mastermind860 5 years ago
860,anybody who says they will wipe another country off the map should not have the bomb like iran. however i do not have any problem with responsible countries who dont threaten their neighbors with having the bomb. just not jihadists like your people. so i am racist. a racist against murdering theocratic dictatorships. what is your country of origin?
NEOCON999 5 years ago
So those who threaten to use bombs shouldn't have it? And why are the others keeping their bombs then, to use them for fireworks on July 4th?
If those who threaten shouldn't have it, why should those who already used it keep it? about countries that have already done it? Have you ever heard of Hiroshima?
mastermind860 5 years ago
860, you are lobbing soft balls right over the plate and i am knocking you out of the park every time. hiroshima probably saved 300,000 lives bec. the usa would have had to invade the island of japan causing untold amounts of casualties. so lets get this straight you believe evil countries who threaten genocide should have the bomb? you are not a formidable opponent. you are a joke. do you really believe what you just wrote?
NEOCON999 5 years ago
neocon, so all you are left with is putting words in my mouth. That's what I call the greatest loss.
mastermind860 5 years ago
do you believe that a murderous dictatorship like iran should have the bomb. YES OR NO! I WANT AN ANSWER.dont talk about isreal bec she already has the bomb. should iran have the bomb. its not that complicated.
NEOCON999 5 years ago
What a silly question from a silly person. No one ever should have the bomb, you idiot. Not Iran, not the US and definitely not the aggressive and critically unstable Israel. Because Israel is allowed to keep its bombs, Iran claims they have the right to seek it. Solution: ban everyone from using it, starting with the Israel. The entire world should unite against that monster bomb that can wipe out humanity any minute.
mastermind860 5 years ago
860, you are not living in the real world. there is a bomb isreal and the usa have it and evil countries like iran want it. here is another question is iran an evil regime was saddam evil. yes or no. stop dodging the question. your naivety from your last comment is very telling about your knowledge of world affairs. maybe if we just make nice with mr. terrorist he would just leave us alone.
NEOCON999 5 years ago
Wow, you really know how to twist ideas around to suit your retarded logic. Nobody said law was worthless. I wrote that the UN has NO AUTHORITY to enforce any of their "laws." The UN does not have sovereign rule over any nation. Its a give and take. Why can't you understand? If it isn't this way, where in the Constitution does it say the UN must be consulted before attacking another country in our defense?
NoGuff 5 years ago