Throne of Tides, pt 1, DK tank perspective, Cataclysm beta

[Iamawesomeo666]

stop breathing and swallowing into the mic. fuckin annoying.

[ishotyaaa]

well if green is bad, its a tanks responsibility to provide the dps with space to dps from behind and not fail to move and complain about them.

[killer341000]

isent frost tanking?

[xXenoChristx]

Is that the PvP 2-hander or the weapon from Blood Council?

[TheDeistAngle]

Hell yes, Gravity

[Thryce23]

Nothing personal, but if your site is the top DK tanking site we're all in trouble. Slow reaction time, improper use of abilities at many points in the video (relative to the situation at hand).

I dno..

Half your important abilities are macro'd "6" - "="  ....keybinds bro

[MrClaive23]

@Thryce23 dude your a moron. read how long ago this video was posted. MEANING have the stuff that was suppose to work didn't work. And threat for all tanks was no where to be found. They had to do a lot of changes and this video was "BETA". Keyword beta. Look before you post.

[Thryce23]

@MrClaive23

I've been a main tank in a very successful raiding guild since Wrath's launch. I've cleared all content and have obtained the majority of prestigious achievements while doing so. With that being said, you failed to respond to my actual criticisms of "Slow reaction time" "poor keybinds" . Neither of which are affected by being BETA or not.

Moron? LOL get owned

[MrClaive23]

@Thryce23 i'll agree with slow reaction time. But keybinds.. dude if think keybinds makes a tank then you don't shit. Which brings me to believe you haven't tanked shit. Keybinds are easy. Lets see we have a keyboard with 6 keys for movement. So that leaves the keybinds that hard to reach with the left hand while moving to be clicked with the mouse. But then again with your poor tanking skill i guess that's a little much for a retarded fool like you to do. That's getting owned bitch.

[live4bass]

what do you use to get agro???

[hotrod232086]

just a tip, you didnt use deathgrip really at all to grab any range, and you reacted fairly slow on any changes, i dont ever use deathstrick as my rotation doesnt allow it, but im guess deathstrike becomes more important im curios what your talent build currently is.

[hotrod232086]

Well, i signed into my youtube account (somthign i havnt done in ages) to get on here and flame the crap out of you, but i realize (and after reading some of your comments) i shouldnt say a dam thing, i tank a mainly frost spec for the howling blast on the live servers because we dont have to worry about CC really, but with blood becoming the tanking spec (ive tried the current blood tanking specs and IT DOES NOT WORK) i can see why you might have a few problems, though you need moreworkontankin

[porcodiosecondo]

tank : 'anyone been here before?'

healer leave group, dps look around confused for some sec then hit a bit the spacebar and leave group too

[pimpownzu]

love how you call your team noobs but you pull skull and let moon run right past you near the end there....

I see a mess with aggro-handling on your part., at least make an attempt to pick up the new adds. Move the mob so dps dont have to stand in slime... Good DPS attacks from BEHIND...

[Bakudan666]

No offense m8...but you don't know how to tank.first pull you should have dropped DnD ON the mobs....you lost aggro immidiately there.

[Autaris]

@Bakudan666

put DnD on the mobs... so when they're cc'd... they break..

cool thinking there jim. Aside from that, i do agree that he could do alot better.

[Dehlvien]

^ worst dk tank I've ever seen.

[MarsJz]

You didn't use Death Strike? Are you kidding me? It gives you a bubble of 75% hp healed by Death Strike if im not wrong.

[pwnwear]

@MarsJz I'm sure I would have used it. It's self-heal is 17.5% of max HP, with bubble of same value. In this video however, in this version of beta, the bubble was not implemented.

[WafflePirate]

amen for CC

[Muco808]

thank god! for the return of CC!

[Hecket]

Sadly beta invites are random... all sort of fucktards in it :(

[sulkhan]

Frost presence is not required for tanking anymore?

[pwnwear]

@sulkhan blood presence is the new tank presence.

[jesmondrules]

looks interesting..nice vid

[symillickg]

fucking hate ignorant scrubs!!!

[BadFilmProductions]

you dont use heartstrike?????????? and in blood presence lol

[pwnwear]

@BadFilmProductions hello retard. Blood presence is the new tanking presence.

[jacobislucas]

@pwnwear hey just wondering since you sayed blood presence is the new tanking presence right? im just curious on what changes did they do with it. that and what did they change with frost since it isent the tanking presence anymore.

[pwnwear]

@jacobislucas aye blood presence is for tanking. Frost presence is for dps (gives you more RP), and Unholy presence for dps too (gives haste).

[jacobislucas]

@pwnwear i see, thanks pal :)

[symillickg]

@BadFilmProductions lol

[Chainsawyourhead]

Not clear enough...how much xp between levels?

[Soulkatti]

@Chainsawyourhead 80-81 it is something like 3 million 81-82 i believe it is 4 million and so on.

[pwnwear]

@Chainsawyourhead at L82, I need to get 6.45M exp for L83.

[welzen]

why were you in blood presence? Is blood the new presence for tanking in cata?

[mcmatanmc]

@welzen

It is



[Eilatar]

I recommend you do something ELSE than tanking... Because that's a lost cause from i can see.. sorry to say this

[Akira1422]

This is already making me miss frost tanking.

[MrWrathGiver]

umm...they dont speak english...lol

[spaceyy]

I really mean no offense by any of the following, just calling my opinion as I see it:

I've watched a few of your videos and have never found anyone so smug about their position as a "beta tester". You, my friend, at absolute best have been given a beta key as a gateway to spread the beta to a wider audience via these videos and your blog. At worst it could very well be due to the fact you are what is commonly known as a "baddy", which is to say you don't seem to be the brightest spark

[spaceyy]

- missreading quest objectives, having no grasp of how the new rune system works etc. - and seem to have below average control of your character. This makes you prime testing material as they want to make the game as accessible as possible.

I would encourage you to note that whislt you feel this indignation towards a rogue that was quite rightly stood behind a mob -

[spaceyy]

who was quite aware he was in the goo by his rapid movement (which basically means "move the mob, idiot") - that you can prevent him from dying whilst doing his job properly. Let's be honest though, you probably understand none of this.

You are self righteous, proven past the lip smacking and nonchelant demeanor by your disbelief that anyone would fail to respond to your incessant pestering in party chat.

Fair enough for uploading the videos though.

[pwnwear]

@spaceyy wow, you've reminded me why I hate youtube.

[spaceyy]

@pwnwear ditto.

[MrWrathGiver]

@pwnwear lol never mind the retarted trolls...i love ure vids esp ure uncut and unedited live videos as you playing.....keep up the good work...LOVED your hyjal vids...cant wait for you to do deepholm (if you have time ofc)....but personally..i love Egypt,,,and cant fucking wiat for uldum...

[zwfhill]

@spaceyy

Rogues aren't Feral Druids. They don't need to be behind the mob to use all their abilities. The Rogue should have just moved to the side. It's their fault they died.

[spaceyy]

@zwfhill sounds great on paper mate. I'm in no doubt most people expect a tank to be reactive enough to move a mob. Sitting on it's side waiting for the mob to be turned and get the cheeky cleave or parry in is mega smart. Defend whichever side you want but anyone with half a clue knows what went wrong here.

[chronofantasy5]

This is kinda funny to me. When I tanked it was the other way around, I never talked and all my group members tried to chat with me. Finally, one group with 3 hunters all thought it'd be fun to misdirect everything in the freaking room to me when I refused to speak just to try and get my attention. Had to pop all my cooldowns, trinkets and crap, healer was a priest and decided to AoE fear the mobs by running in after PW:Shielding me with a renew. It was funny crap.

[pwnwear]

@chronofantasy5 haha :) you slacker, got your just desserts! :D

[chronofantasy5]

@pwnwear No, because I was tanking while I wasn't talking to my group. If I was just sitting there doing nothing then yeah it would've been deserved lol

[DbzInfiniteMaster]

theyre all russians FUCK!

[MediaNoche87]

I guess silence is golden :)

[danieldc89]

Love your vids. Awesome commentary. I'm still really concerned how we're supposed to handle pulls of 4 mobs orso. I mean warriors can shockwave to get initial threat AND control them all for 4 seconds - without applying any CC breaking effects so your group can continue applying their own CCs to them after. What comparable tool do we have? How will we handle pulls in a productive CC friendly way?

[pwnwear]

@danieldc89 At the moment, I'm worried about it too but trust it'll be balanced out. I'll give some feedback on this once I have a better feel. Look at how much trouble I have tanking in here, and I'm a dedicated tank. I can tank Halls of Reflection or any other content without trouble, but because I'm learning new buttons here and new threat styles, it's really tough to judge whether it's my learning that's the problem, or the design.

[Vyl4n]

@pwnwear spam bloodboil untill you are down to about 3 or 2 mobs, then switch to heart strike works wonders

[pwnwear]

@Vyl4n aye, that will be the technique. Takes some adjusting. On Live, I run either frost or unholy AOE spec, and Blood for single-target. I haven't had to multi-target tank in blood for for ages.

[danieldc89]

@pwnwear You mention "new threat styles", I'm guessing you mean the lack of AoE and Death and Decay. What about Heart Strikes triple-cleave, Is it any good? Is it noticeable it's hitting an additional target? Are there any situations you prefer using Blood Boil over HS (seeing as most pulls are quite small).

[pwnwear]

@danieldc89 Plus manually hitting rune strike and icy touch not having the threat multiplier anymore (on Live I can use IT to pull loose mobs). I'm still adjusting to using heart strike in a 3-mob situation, and you'll see I didn't use it enough.

[Vyl4n]

Sigh, germans