@missBonBons911 cutting off hair = official sign of vow of chastity (for women). The ladies may cry because they see the queen forsaking the proverbial bliss of marriage.
what about the couple who were arrested? were they excuted too or were they released when elizabeth said she cared for their children and the kindness they displayed before to her
@kackles78 I think, the director doesn't wanted to show a one-to-one picture of the real story. The main-acting person is Elizabeth Tudor, but in the first way I suggest, the film is about power and what power does to you and your closest surrounding. In her case in consequence of power she started as a young girl and became the legendary "virgin queen". And the "break-up" with Robert, the dismissal of Cecil and the execution of Norfolk is used as a kind of metapher.
Anybody else notice this ending is ripped off The Godfather? All the enemies are dealt with in timely fashion with vaguely sinister church music in the background, then the most personal traitor is dealt with by the main man/woman face to face, ostensibly given mercy, but ultimately given the shaft. Main character then completely ascends to role of complete leader, to chagrin of love interest. Hell, main character's actor even got passed over for the Oscar win that year!!
@1597McLovin It's called self-flagellation. Some monks and priests do it as a weird, sadomasochistic way of punishing themselves for their sins. I think it's to mimic the way Christ was whipped before being put on the cross.
@henrycaville One of the best and passionate nude making love scenes in movie history!! I'd love to spend the night with Amanda Ryan who plays Lettice Howard!! That panning shot of her beautiful feet, then her naked body and breasts, then her gorgeous face and lustrous black hair.......WOW!! What a glorious feminine specimen she is!!
@vivianmanlei08 Under torture, the priest (Daniel Craig) confessed the actors in the conspiracy against the Queen of which he was a part. The Queen therefore goes and executes all the men on the list she obtained, out of self-defence.
What did Robert do, almost be sentence to death. In the earlier part of the movie, thought he had the choice to save her and himself. What treason did he commit...
Sir Thomas Walsingham: "Aye madam: to reign supreme. All men need something greater than themselves to look up to and worship. They must be able to touch the divine, here on earth".
@skiltont If you mean from 4:55, it's an arrangement of Variation IX (Adagio) "Nimrod" from Sir Edward Elgar's "Variations on an Original Theme for orchestra ("Enigma")", Op. 36, commonly known as the "Enigma Variations".
@skiltont However, if you mean the music from the very beginning, this is an arrangement (and a very beautiful one) of William Byrd's motet: "Domine secundum actum meum". I made a clip of this with some images on my YouTube channel under "William Byrd" :)
Walsingham is right. People always forget everything and everybody. It's just the truth. They used used sheets of paper that composers like Bach wrote his own music on to wrap up things like butter and other household things not long after his death probably because musicians and composers were just poor artists and didn't carry much weight in society unless they were nobility or something.
The kids are alive, and sleeping. The parents were saying goodbye. The Queen said "do not think we don't care for your children" and it sounds like the children will not be punished for the sins of the parents.
whats up with priest beating himself up till he is injured. im so disapointed in Robert, the queen trusted, and loved him so deeply but he betrayed her in the end.
@hellscradleVII That's his girlfriend, she's with him the entire film, and this is the only scene with sex in it, but her character is basically introduced as "Norfolk's lady." I don't think they're married, though; and he could very well have been married, making her his "mistress", but they don't really clarify that either. I think he did, historically, have a wife and kids.
It must've been hard for Elizabeth to convict the man he loved... and much more harder, because he really was guilty of treason.. but Robert Dudley only did it for he thought it was best for them. After all like the spanish ambassador said,"What can a man not do for love?" oh well... :\ bummer
@stengun1 Maybe, but it makes it much easier to learn about Queen Elizabeth. It only takes a second to go online after the film and search up the inaccuracies. But it takes days to read a boring text book on the woman.
@MajBlood Yes, but a lot of it is made up. Lord Anju never even met the queen, for instance, and her relationship with Dudley was never recorded as that close, or even romantic. Also I think at one point it mixes up the Mary a bit. It's a good film, but it's very inaccurate. It's a good movie, but if you're using this for historical insight, you're probably better off not watching it. There's a looong list of inaccuracies, and the movie has a pretty big bias to it.
@MasterAsra Nonsense. I almost have my BA in history and I love historically innaccurate movies like Braveheart or biased American propoganda like the Patriot. Movies set in history give you an innacurate but broad overview of the period in question. Also many of the costumes are accurate and it inspires you to do more studying. Like wikipedia. Don't use it as an academic source but it is a good jumping point.
@MajBlood I suppose it's a good thing to get you interested in something, with various degrees of authenticity depending on the movie. Though it's kind of silly when I go through the comments on all of these videos acting as if the movie were 100% historically accurate at the parts which were thrown in to make it more interesting.
@MasterAsra Of course, all movies take some creative liberties, this one being a bit above average on that apartment. And I wouldn't have it any other way. If I want to read 100% accurate history one should be reading a good book on Elizabeth instead.
@MasterAsra I, too, am both amazed and annoyed at those who seek historical movies yet their comments betray that they treat such movies as holy gospel; not realizing the primary purpose is to entertain, not to educate.
For anyone who wants to understand Elizabeth and the context of her reign, a movie is going to present one point of view and is made for entertainment. That might pique interest but is no replacement for serious reading and wide reading since the history depends very much on who wrote it and when. Judging 16th century social mores from the 21st is nonsense; no doubt, we will also be judged in years to come with equal criticism. These things can only be understood in context.
@elleruskin Go back to your boring university history class where they analyse some dudes fucking shit stained pants to know what the economy was like, bitch.
@Acme633 You know how muslims have radical islam wellwe christians have radical catholism.our guys to this day still whip thsemlseves some even crucify themselves on x-mas.
We can analyse Elizabeth, through this film, as a good princess for Maquiavel. She was cruel when she "needed" to. And at the same time she did what it was necessary to be done.
She killed Norfolk, the guy on the toilet, and the one priest whipping himself only, not the man who gave her his coat at the begining. But who was the man on the toilet?
Intense. This rivals final scene in the church of Godfather 1.
For anyone up for an fascinating character study of the development of a personality who capable of creating an empire, add Elizabeth (1998 with Cate Blanchett) to your list.
She was very strong individual by her own ethics - lived for who she was ment be - the true leader of the antion! If any of our leaders would be like her!
@braveheart1779 no that was a different guy, the old guy they killed was a bishop who wanted her dead and mary queen of scotts on the throne and cathlics restored in to england.
And as for that Norfik, his own woman set him up. Damn shame. Old Sir robert, I believed that Elizabeth let him for the principal to forgive but never forget. Plus on top of it, I believe that he had come down with something. And I'm talking about that something that you get when you are messing around with too many women. That something that turpitine want wash off. So as far as I am concerned maybe because of that, Elizabeth concidered him dead anyways.
She wold have done better to marry an Englishman of noble blood from the lower ranks of the nobility and had heirs. A secured succession would have made way for future peace treaties by marriages of her offspring with the royal houses of Europe.
It seems unlikely that she'd have such eminent men killed privately without trial. When it cam to treason, prosecution was very public. Or, at least it was under Henry VIII. Maybe she had different policies than her father when it came to that. Still, I think it should be done publicly. People will notice when a handful of the country's most powerful men just show up dead. It's better to take ownership of it to consolidate power.
@Sei1863 it is unlikely because it never happened. All these men were brought to trial and publicly executed, the movie went instead in a godfather ending scenario, but not based on fact.
fake--- fake fake fake- bishops who claim to take paths pointed by God.... i assure you he would not point anyone to do malicious sly deeds like that!!!
@am3ri3s Disagree completely during this era it was much more common for God fearing bishops and priests to take orders directly from Rome which very often included the attempt on the British monarchs due to the parting of the church and the formation of the church of England!
@klb2266 Lettice Howard, Norfolk's girlfriend, a fictional character, played by British actress Amanda Ryan, and wow can she make love with her glorious body!! I'm so jealous of Christopher Eccleston in that scene!!
as far as i know,Robert Dudley was not a traitor,he died after an illness(not sure what,but possibly stomach cancer) in 1588 just after the defeat of the Spanish Armada,Elizabeth was devastated by his death and locked herself in her room ,until they were forced to break the door down.
Dudleys great mistake was his wife turning up dead one day in a manner which suggested he may have had something to do with it. As everyone knew he wanted to marry Elisabeth, she became forced to turn on him to avoid looking like she was complaisant in murder. Dudley does not appear to have been involved in the Ridolfi plot, which implicated Norfork.
why did they cut her hair and mistress women cry im confused?
missBonBons911 1 week ago
@missBonBons911 cutting off hair = official sign of vow of chastity (for women). The ladies may cry because they see the queen forsaking the proverbial bliss of marriage.
Wilbtube 1 week ago
sacrifices had to be made then like it is now and wlll be always.that is devine.
chevyss67222 2 weeks ago
so many sex scene here
pearl103082 1 month ago
@pearl103082 Norfolk's lover is beautiful!! Gorgeous body!!
ceredigio 1 week ago
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Lili8015 1 month ago
what about the couple who were arrested? were they excuted too or were they released when elizabeth said she cared for their children and the kindness they displayed before to her
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ThePharaoho 1 month ago
Why is he arrested and killed? Please answer quick!
splitskillsthatkills 1 month ago
i dont like how much they changed the ending, robert didnt betray her, not happy!! why are they trying to rewrite history!!
kackles78 1 month ago
@kackles78 I think, the director doesn't wanted to show a one-to-one picture of the real story. The main-acting person is Elizabeth Tudor, but in the first way I suggest, the film is about power and what power does to you and your closest surrounding. In her case in consequence of power she started as a young girl and became the legendary "virgin queen". And the "break-up" with Robert, the dismissal of Cecil and the execution of Norfolk is used as a kind of metapher.
Lili8015 1 month ago
Anybody else notice this ending is ripped off The Godfather? All the enemies are dealt with in timely fashion with vaguely sinister church music in the background, then the most personal traitor is dealt with by the main man/woman face to face, ostensibly given mercy, but ultimately given the shaft. Main character then completely ascends to role of complete leader, to chagrin of love interest. Hell, main character's actor even got passed over for the Oscar win that year!!
Rennimagus 2 months ago 2
Why was that guy whippinh himself?
1597McLovin 2 months ago
@1597McLovin It's called self-flagellation. Some monks and priests do it as a weird, sadomasochistic way of punishing themselves for their sins. I think it's to mimic the way Christ was whipped before being put on the cross.
Briavel1 2 months ago
@henrycaville One of the best and passionate nude making love scenes in movie history!! I'd love to spend the night with Amanda Ryan who plays Lettice Howard!! That panning shot of her beautiful feet, then her naked body and breasts, then her gorgeous face and lustrous black hair.......WOW!! What a glorious feminine specimen she is!!
ceredigio 3 months ago
" I will have one mistress here..and no masters!" hahahaha
25redzombie 3 months ago
please, someone know the name of the song from the beginning?
homerojsimpsonhlt 4 months ago
@homerojsimpsonhlt I think it's by William Byrd, a Tudor composer.
ceredigio 3 months ago
Norfolk's girlfriend is like the best spy of the whole movie!
33rosyposy 4 months ago 4
@33rosyposy And she's stunning as well!! I'm jealous of Norfolk and her naked in bed!!
ceredigio 3 months ago
The most bad ass line of this movie! "You were Norfolk...the dead have no titles!"
FURepublicans 4 months ago 5
I don't know why they would even bother killing Norfolk, he's just going to regenerate anyway.
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HA! That was funny....
bookwyrm73 3 months ago
@ 0:27 Dat ASS
horrorbaraz 4 months ago
One does not want to have sex if one is in this movie.
GreenTeaGarlic 5 months ago
I don't understand this part of the movie, can anyone explain?
vivianmanlei08 5 months ago
@vivianmanlei08 Under torture, the priest (Daniel Craig) confessed the actors in the conspiracy against the Queen of which he was a part. The Queen therefore goes and executes all the men on the list she obtained, out of self-defence.
Bennuist 1 month ago
"The people will always remember it"
"No - they will forget.."
Best put-down line ever! :D
Evelyn4eva 5 months ago in playlist More videos from volamiominipony 9
The woman at 1:58, is being sentance to death. She was the mother with her children, in the scene where they asked where is your father?
SHAUNERDANIEL 5 months ago
Every time I watch this, I can't help but think of Michael Corleone in the chapel while the dons are being taken out.
SirSirRobin 5 months ago
It's like that mass hit scene from the original Godfather movie.
jonwiley 6 months ago 2
They actually were having real sex.
chloebella17 7 months ago
@chloebella17 No they werent. There are only 14 counts of real sex during a hollywood film, and they are all obscure. And certainly not this one.
JokinglySerious 6 months ago
@chloebella17 How can you tell?
Khrys32 6 months ago
@chloebella17 yeah, me too i wonder, was it real? i don't seem to see that couldn't be faked between the actors...
sslohier 5 months ago in playlist Elizabeth (1998)
What did Robert do, almost be sentence to death. In the earlier part of the movie, thought he had the choice to save her and himself. What treason did he commit...
SHAUNERDANIEL 5 months ago
Wow, that guy's last few moments of freedom was on the potty. LOL.
chloebella17 7 months ago
"He shall be keep alive to always remind me of how close i came to danger" Love that line
MrPinker911 7 months ago 10
arrested at the crapper, classic
MultiApansson 7 months ago
Oooookay, that was the realest looking "movie sex" I think I've ever seen!!!
The longer I watch Walsingham, the cuter he gets...
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Queen Elizabeth: "Must I be touched by nothing?".
Sir Thomas Walsingham: "Aye madam: to reign supreme. All men need something greater than themselves to look up to and worship. They must be able to touch the divine, here on earth".
How true.
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AntPDC 8 months ago
What is the name of this song?
skiltont 8 months ago
@skiltont If you mean from 4:55, it's an arrangement of Variation IX (Adagio) "Nimrod" from Sir Edward Elgar's "Variations on an Original Theme for orchestra ("Enigma")", Op. 36, commonly known as the "Enigma Variations".
AntPDC 8 months ago
@skiltont However, if you mean the music from the very beginning, this is an arrangement (and a very beautiful one) of William Byrd's motet: "Domine secundum actum meum". I made a clip of this with some images on my YouTube channel under "William Byrd" :)
AntPDC 8 months ago
Walsingham is right. People always forget everything and everybody. It's just the truth. They used used sheets of paper that composers like Bach wrote his own music on to wrap up things like butter and other household things not long after his death probably because musicians and composers were just poor artists and didn't carry much weight in society unless they were nobility or something.
jrmetmoi 8 months ago
@jrmetmoi I agree - an insightful comment.
AntPDC 8 months ago
The kids are alive, and sleeping. The parents were saying goodbye. The Queen said "do not think we don't care for your children" and it sounds like the children will not be punished for the sins of the parents.
j67554 8 months ago
I love her dress at 8:15 !
ashantifan1224 9 months ago
So were those kids dead or alive? It was hard to tell.
ashantifan1224 9 months ago
@ashantifan1224 the kids are alive, but the father and mother are dead i think
RavenRobin18 8 months ago
1:58 makes me so sad; it makes me think of how children can easily becomes the victims of unstable times- bless- poor youngins...
sslohier 9 months ago in playlist Elizabeth (1998)
beginning at the 6:54 mark the score always sends chills up my spine
prewittj1 9 months ago
whats up with priest beating himself up till he is injured. im so disapointed in Robert, the queen trusted, and loved him so deeply but he betrayed her in the end.
Mandinko23 9 months ago
@Mandinko23 That flagellation is a form of purification or self-penance for ones sins and this practice was common amongst the very devout.
truediabolique69 9 months ago
i wonder how the actors did the sex scenes here. anyone got ideas?
angrycaveman 10 months ago
James Frain dies in everything he is cast in.
Dan101986 10 months ago 4
lol on the pooper
babytrexinabowtie 10 months ago
who is that girl that Norfolk was fucking?
hellscradleVII 10 months ago
@hellscradleVII That's his girlfriend, she's with him the entire film, and this is the only scene with sex in it, but her character is basically introduced as "Norfolk's lady." I don't think they're married, though; and he could very well have been married, making her his "mistress", but they don't really clarify that either. I think he did, historically, have a wife and kids.
MehrunesDaagon 10 months ago
the real lord robert did not betray the queen he remain of her most loyal friends intill his death in 1588
ellie9311 10 months ago 24
@ellie9311 really? but he WAS married and slept with her, aye?
mcsuzzer 1 month ago
All men need something greater than themselves to look up to and worship. They
must be able to touch the divine here on earth
lavendderrable 10 months ago 2
It must've been hard for Elizabeth to convict the man he loved... and much more harder, because he really was guilty of treason.. but Robert Dudley only did it for he thought it was best for them. After all like the spanish ambassador said,"What can a man not do for love?" oh well... :\ bummer
petter830 10 months ago
What happened with Lord Arundel?
hormisdaz 11 months ago
@hormisdaz
Lord Arundel was the third head shown on a spike
shoobedoorocketship 11 months ago
How should I serve thee, Robert?
MehrunesDaagon 11 months ago
I just love Geoffrey Rush, very good actor. Part of the reason i went to see the King's Speech.
RelxBichItsJustUtube 1 year ago 9
No matter how much plotting the Spanish Ambassador would have done, he would never have been assassinated!!! As that would provoke war!!
DramaticallyAbbie 1 year ago
@DramaticallyAbbie now now, that's why a big spanish armada arrived right? -_-
petter830 10 months ago
Edward Elgar- Nimrod Variations
felknerr 1 year ago
The deepest circle of hell is reserved for traitors alone...
IvanBeSerious 1 year ago 4
Can someone tell me what song is playing at 05:15 please. Thanks for any help.
MrDeano324 1 year ago
@MrDeano324 elgar's nimrod
michael1916 11 months ago
lol and cromwell dies again
AnnetheQueene16 1 year ago 6
1:37 Busted on the shitter!
Jelperman 1 year ago
one of the greatiest movies i've ever watched. just amaizing historical show!
DonaBeata 1 year ago
What did Robert Do? I got confused...
smallvillehailey 1 year ago
these women are so well dressed, campy, I love it
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"You had not the courage to be loyal. Merely the conviction of your own vanity." wow!
At the end, Walsingham has tears in eyes!
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At least Walsingham was kind enough to let Norfolk get some pussy before beheading him.
lilze96 1 year ago 90
@lilze96 yeah! he quite lucky for that...
jomx100 11 months ago
@lilze96 Kind? He probably didn't even know! LOL
jrmetmoi 8 months ago
This film is a political science class
pirulitonervoso 1 year ago 41
@pirulitonervoso Except that most of it is historically inaccurate
stengun1 9 months ago 2
@stengun1 Maybe, but it makes it much easier to learn about Queen Elizabeth. It only takes a second to go online after the film and search up the inaccuracies. But it takes days to read a boring text book on the woman.
MajBlood 9 months ago
@MajBlood Yes, but a lot of it is made up. Lord Anju never even met the queen, for instance, and her relationship with Dudley was never recorded as that close, or even romantic. Also I think at one point it mixes up the Mary a bit. It's a good film, but it's very inaccurate. It's a good movie, but if you're using this for historical insight, you're probably better off not watching it. There's a looong list of inaccuracies, and the movie has a pretty big bias to it.
MasterAsra 7 months ago
@MasterAsra Nonsense. I almost have my BA in history and I love historically innaccurate movies like Braveheart or biased American propoganda like the Patriot. Movies set in history give you an innacurate but broad overview of the period in question. Also many of the costumes are accurate and it inspires you to do more studying. Like wikipedia. Don't use it as an academic source but it is a good jumping point.
MajBlood 7 months ago 2
@MajBlood I suppose it's a good thing to get you interested in something, with various degrees of authenticity depending on the movie. Though it's kind of silly when I go through the comments on all of these videos acting as if the movie were 100% historically accurate at the parts which were thrown in to make it more interesting.
MasterAsra 7 months ago
@MasterAsra Of course, all movies take some creative liberties, this one being a bit above average on that apartment. And I wouldn't have it any other way. If I want to read 100% accurate history one should be reading a good book on Elizabeth instead.
MajBlood 7 months ago
@MasterAsra I, too, am both amazed and annoyed at those who seek historical movies yet their comments betray that they treat such movies as holy gospel; not realizing the primary purpose is to entertain, not to educate.
jonwiley 6 months ago
@de116925 the couple with those 2 children the ones who kissed them goodnight
andysixxforeverily 1 year ago
the song of the angels
baraovonbufas 1 year ago
0:56 opus dei in the house!
halkiphulkiben 1 year ago
4:58 That's "Nimrod" from Elgar's Enigma Variations!
sayz25 1 year ago
1:12 is DISGUSTING who would do that with a old man?
TheIsabella91126 1 year ago
@TheIsabella91126 Um....the Duke of Norfolk was in his 30s when he was executed.
UsagiDreams 1 year ago
@UsagiDreams Stilll...............
TheIsabella91126 1 year ago
@UsagiDreams
That's the least of the inaccuracies that make up this film.
abrondarbit 1 year ago
For anyone who wants to understand Elizabeth and the context of her reign, a movie is going to present one point of view and is made for entertainment. That might pique interest but is no replacement for serious reading and wide reading since the history depends very much on who wrote it and when. Judging 16th century social mores from the 21st is nonsense; no doubt, we will also be judged in years to come with equal criticism. These things can only be understood in context.
elleruskin 1 year ago 4
@elleruskin Exactly!!!!!! Hat off to you sir/madam!
SirEthelo 1 year ago
@elleruskin Go back to your boring university history class where they analyse some dudes fucking shit stained pants to know what the economy was like, bitch.
MajBlood 1 year ago
Why is that guy whipping himself? Does it hurt or not?
Acme633 1 year ago
@Acme633 You know how muslims have radical islam wellwe christians have radical catholism.our guys to this day still whip thsemlseves some even crucify themselves on x-mas.
zephonlucifer 1 year ago
@zephonlucifer True . There is always an extreme side of everything .
EmperorMeowMeow 1 year ago
@Acme633
He is doing penance.
Kypris11 1 year ago
she is my idol
1536anne 1 year ago
"Cut off my head and make me a martyr. The people will always remember it."
"No. They will forget."
“I beg to differ. In the future I shall be played by a handsome actor and you shall be played by Mel Gibson’s understudy”
That’s how I would have written it.
rudigero 1 year ago 7
1:12 BEST PART
alexkoong123 1 year ago
@alexkoong123 but shes got no boobies!!! =[[[[
pfftlollol 1 year ago
my favorite scene - the night of the long knifes...
viapodiensis 1 year ago
We can analyse Elizabeth, through this film, as a good princess for Maquiavel. She was cruel when she "needed" to. And at the same time she did what it was necessary to be done.
canalrebelde 1 year ago
i can not have any sympathy for the person killed Mary Stuart
Chevalier765 1 year ago
@Chevalier765 Mary Stuart was guilty of treason, and she's such a bitch she's Mary of Scots -_-
petter830 10 months ago
@petter830 Yes that is exactly what Elisabeth wanted you to think
I feel sorry for you
Chevalier765 10 months ago 4
Elizabeth is the Michael Corleone of Godfather I
IRP01 1 year ago
"He shall be kept alive to always remind me of how close I came to danger."
evachinoy 1 year ago
"He shall be kept alive to always remind me of how close I came to danger."
evachinoy 1 year ago
Wouldn't it be pretty damn embarrassing to have swords held at your throat when you're trying to go to the bathroom :S
TheSuzieQs 1 year ago
She killed Norfolk, the guy on the toilet, and the one priest whipping himself only, not the man who gave her his coat at the begining. But who was the man on the toilet?
SammiKC 1 year ago
@SammiKC the guy on the toilet was Sussex
Nicollie1062 1 year ago 3
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Ahhhh, Thanks!
SammiKC 1 year ago
Intense. This rivals final scene in the church of Godfather 1.
For anyone up for an fascinating character study of the development of a personality who capable of creating an empire, add Elizabeth (1998 with Cate Blanchett) to your list.
katherinebennett1 1 year ago
She was very strong individual by her own ethics - lived for who she was ment be - the true leader of the antion! If any of our leaders would be like her!
ludmilalloyd 1 year ago 2
What is the soundtrack when the scene where she meets Lord Robert and decides to keep him alive ?
louise8158 1 year ago
So she still killed the old man who had given her his coat? I thought she had forgiven him?
I guess not.
braveheart1779 1 year ago
@braveheart1779 no that was a different guy, the old guy they killed was a bishop who wanted her dead and mary queen of scotts on the throne and cathlics restored in to england.
jane911 1 year ago
hooootttttttt
thehighcoco1 1 year ago
they leave out most of the conflict the Mary queen of Scott's in this one. They only touch on it slightly in the second one
skylierautumn 1 year ago
And as for that Norfik, his own woman set him up. Damn shame. Old Sir robert, I believed that Elizabeth let him for the principal to forgive but never forget. Plus on top of it, I believe that he had come down with something. And I'm talking about that something that you get when you are messing around with too many women. That something that turpitine want wash off. So as far as I am concerned maybe because of that, Elizabeth concidered him dead anyways.
dollazndiamondz 1 year ago
She wold have done better to marry an Englishman of noble blood from the lower ranks of the nobility and had heirs. A secured succession would have made way for future peace treaties by marriages of her offspring with the royal houses of Europe.
pillowtalk1980 1 year ago
It seems unlikely that she'd have such eminent men killed privately without trial. When it cam to treason, prosecution was very public. Or, at least it was under Henry VIII. Maybe she had different policies than her father when it came to that. Still, I think it should be done publicly. People will notice when a handful of the country's most powerful men just show up dead. It's better to take ownership of it to consolidate power.
Sei1863 1 year ago
@Sei1863 it is unlikely because it never happened. All these men were brought to trial and publicly executed, the movie went instead in a godfather ending scenario, but not based on fact.
bigbossman999 1 year ago
Great scene..It's like the Godfather..lol..
scott797 1 year ago 2
@rocketdive9887 if you mean the music from 5:42 on, it's Elgar's Enigma variation No. 9, "nimrod"...
gollumkushka 1 year ago
@rocketdive9887 Mozart's The Requiem.
alrewyrn 1 year ago
@alrewyrn No, it's a renaissance-choir by an earlier composer ... a piece of mozarts requiem is used for the last scene of the film.
so ... what about THIS piece of music? what's its name?
RoLorenz 1 year ago
@RoLorenz "Domine noli me iudicare secundum actum meum" I believe
NapoleonCalland 1 year ago
The most powerful scene/ decision that has led England to where it stand with glory today. The rest is history...pun intended! :)
Abrideatlast 1 year ago
Wow!! The most incredible segment of the film!
barbardme 1 year ago
fake--- fake fake fake- bishops who claim to take paths pointed by God.... i assure you he would not point anyone to do malicious sly deeds like that!!!
am3ri3s 1 year ago
@am3ri3s Disagree completely during this era it was much more common for God fearing bishops and priests to take orders directly from Rome which very often included the attempt on the British monarchs due to the parting of the church and the formation of the church of England!
qdespana 1 year ago
ok who is the black haired chick in the bed? i forget...
klb2266 1 year ago
@klb2266 Lettice Howard, Norfolk's girlfriend, a fictional character, played by British actress Amanda Ryan, and wow can she make love with her glorious body!! I'm so jealous of Christopher Eccleston in that scene!!
ceredigio 3 months ago
y was that guy whipping himself?
3101jimbo 1 year ago
XD it's the Tudor era, they probably did it for laughs ...
xxAkitoandSanaxx 1 year ago
I hate how this movie twists all the historical facts just for entertainment
pumpkinflowers 2 years ago
@pumpkinflowers well thats like every historical drama, but yah in the case of this movie sooo sooo off
watchesyoushower 1 year ago
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pumpkinflowers 2 years ago
7:32 OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
achrismascarol 2 years ago
as far as i know,Robert Dudley was not a traitor,he died after an illness(not sure what,but possibly stomach cancer) in 1588 just after the defeat of the Spanish Armada,Elizabeth was devastated by his death and locked herself in her room ,until they were forced to break the door down.
mrsrickman4eva 2 years ago 5
Dudleys great mistake was his wife turning up dead one day in a manner which suggested he may have had something to do with it. As everyone knew he wanted to marry Elisabeth, she became forced to turn on him to avoid looking like she was complaisant in murder. Dudley does not appear to have been involved in the Ridolfi plot, which implicated Norfork.
warzybok 2 years ago
indeed mrsrickman4eva!
tessaming 2 years ago
I liked that Spanish ambassador guy with the curly hair D:
PansyMk 2 years ago 3
yeah me too!! xD
achrismascarol 2 years ago
@PansyMk the spanish ambasador played in where the heart is.... as the library guy
Bellacanto0708 1 year ago
robert didn't betray her right? he was innocent wasn't he
fleurgi 2 years ago
of course he WASN'T
Meroviggian 2 years ago
so he did betray her. is this movie historically acurate at all?
fleurgi 2 years ago
There was a plot against her, yes. But i dont know if Robert was an actual figure. I think so... :)
Meroviggian 2 years ago
This is a bit upsetting. The movie is good especially at the beginning but the historical facts continues to go downhill as the film progress.
kurovlinder 2 years ago 6
@kurovlinder agree
stitchgrl777 1 year ago
He is seriously straining at 1:40. He should try to get more fibre in his diet.
mrchrisdavis09 2 years ago
Haha..That was kind of random @mr.Chrisdavis
PansyMk 2 years ago
Wow, this movie confuses me a bit xO
and @p3 shadow, it believe they are talking about the Virgin mary.
Arixzone 2 years ago
who was she talking about? at 8:39? Anne Boleyn, her mother?
p3shadows 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure that she is talking about the Virgin Mary