MoonFaker: A Puffy Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon. P1

[munkyusm]

Occam's Razor - All things being equal, the most plausible explanation should be accepted unless there is LEGITIMATE evidence proving otherwise.

What is more plausible? The United States created 5 hoax videos, with 5 different astronaut crews to trick the world into believing it went to the moon, and Russia with all of its resources could not disprove it, but some dickhead working on his MacBook could....OR we went to the moon.

[philpw99]

Correction: After analyzing the hammer drop frame by frame. Here is a new light: The hammer did dropped for 1.16 seconds. It seems it fits the moon gravity perfectly and my theory was debunked by myself. However, during that 1 second and 5 frames, I can see that the hammer dropped in one frame, and stopped in the next frame, then it dropped and stop again.

What does that prove? The video was purposely slowed down to fit the timing. There is NO WAY the hammer can stop in the mid-air by itself.

[philpw99]

Do a little math combine with an experiment, and you will know the truth. If a hammer is dropped from 1.2 meter high, on the earth it will take 0.49 seconds to hit the ground. On the moon, due to the 1/6 gravity, the same hammer will keep falling for 1.2 seconds.

[philpw99]

Now go do a simply experiment yourself. First get some object that has little air resistance. Play the video, when the astronaut drop the hammer, drop your object at the same time. You will find out that the hammer hit the ground almost the same time as your object. It didn't take 2.4x of timing to hit the ground.

So it's obvious that both the hammer and the feather were dropped under the earth gravity.

[tjrxk7]

"The United States and Russia were faced with a problem"...they show two scientists. One 'Russian' one 'American'.....BOTH EX-NAZIS from Project Paperclip here and whatever name they gave it in the USSR!!!......LMFAO

[jamilessdodger1]

jarrah they dont like the fact that your work is interesting ..keep the videos coming

[jamilessdodger1]

@NASAvsPETE what a complete dickhead PETE

[charlottewerter]

Ed White suit was different .... simple... Ed White had problems with his spacesuit during first EVA...Some years passed beetween Apollo and Gemini missions. They just improved spacesuits.

[flanksteak2]

Jarrah's voice got that way from choking on too many cocks.

[JGDeRuvo]

So what? First, he stands by his conclusions. Savage has always been open to revisiting myths and haven't you heard? Just about every time they have, the original conclusion is confirmed. Also, you pointed out ONE experiment when confronting him. you made no mention of the photography mythbusting, or even the scientific busting of the flag waving in a vacuum. You also didn't comment on the work they did in the Vomet Comet. Sorry, but there's no there there. Nice try though.

[yesiamawizardjonny]

@JGDeRuvo Anything else you wanna say? In fact I would really hope that I could talk to Phil Plait some day. Please, bring him onto youtube so we can have a conversation..

[JGDeRuvo]

Mythbusters pretty much blew this whole Moon Hoax nonsense clear out of the water. We went to to the moon. Deal with it.

[WhiteJarrah]

@JGDeRuvo You haven't heard? The Mythbusters is just "entertainment, not science".

Here's how Savage reacts when the flaws with the moon hoax special are brought to his attention: watch?v=9TH4BfIwBXs

[JGDeRuvo]

@yesiamawizardjonny OH you got me there. Guess I better reconsider my entire world view because yesimawizardjohnnywithhisredic­ulouslonghandle thinks I'm a dumbass. Well, I was merely using a source I thought you're intelligence level could handle. I could bring out the big boys like Phil Plait if you want. But I'll have to ask him to use small words.

[sssssjjjj1]

hahahhaa. Watch, A funny thing happened to me on the way to the moon. You will know the truth. I'm sick of gov. shills. Use your own head to think. Uh oh, don't do that.......Just watch it by yourself and do the best you can.

[LunarTuner]

Simple: White's suit looks ballooned because the outer layer is more tightly stretched over the restraining layer. The designers learned. The A7L has a looser outer layer which shows wrinkles. The outward appearance is irrelevant if you're trying to discover the internal pressure. These are two different suits. Again--comparing apples to oranges (am I seeing a pattern here?).

[jib1000]

You should move this video the the "comedy" catagory.

What a joke.

[iiXionvx]

"Capseels"?

[MrNeptunebob]

Another thing Andre, why do you have to call me names? Maybe there actually is ILC Dover merchandise and I would like to have an ILC Logo sweater!

[MrNeptunebob]

Now why do you say that? Although I don't think Playtex or ILC Dover ever made sweaters, they specialized in dipping fabric in rubber to make ladies foundation garments. But I would be glad to wear a sweater with the ILC logo on it. Hey, maybe I can try to get a job with them!

[MrNeptunebob]

@andrehsvendsen

But have you seen Moon Machines? It is one of my favorite documentaries and very informative!

[MrNeptunebob]

@andrehsvendsen

Another thing about the gloves is that I am sure they were thicker than what you buy at Lowes. There used to be a show called Newtons Apple, a science show, and they did a demonstration where someone put their hand in a space suit glove and dipped in in boiling water and handled dry ice with no harm. They did warn not to do this with gloves you might buy at a sporting goods or snowboard store. The space gloves were much more complex and made of valuble materials.

[MrNeptunebob]

One reason for the difference in the space suits is they were made by different manufacturers. The David Clark Company made the Geminii suits and ILC Dover made the Apollo suits. The 2 companies likely used different construction methods and materials. ILC used to be part of Playtex so they had experience making ladies foundation garments. Likely what happened is that there is an inner pressure garment that takes the pressure and an outer wear layer loosely over the pressure garment.

[MrNeptunebob]

@MrNeptunebob

Also, the documentary Moon Machines has a very informative episode about ILC Dover and Apollo space suits. It is here on U Tube.

[startwiththeballs]

@coccioloneus, no evidence?

google :jewwatch

scroll down

click on :30 Holocaust Research Videos

and before you say l hate americans or jews or american jews l will say im a selfish person and l dont give a fuck about anyone else, but myself. l dont have in interest put put hatred into people, l would rather learn things. peace out

[nedwieb]

Dumb american hating brit

[kanadiankopite]

and your an incest lovin hick to think this guys a brit

[nasafakedit]

idiot

[markjh2005]

The Apollo and Gemini space suits are not of the same design/construction as each other. I find your argument that the Apollo suit should react in similar fashion to the Gemini suit when in a vacuum to be a bit of a reach.

[northerntruthseeker]

Actually, people like myself do care, and yes, I do have a job... I also know the importance of exposing lies to make sure that we live in a world without deceptions... unlike yourself who obviously wants to continue in some kind of make believe dreamworld!

[northerntruthseeker]

legoking, I do not even know where to begin about how disgraceful your comment is!

Insults, and in very bad english.... Damn, is this the mentality of the average Propagandist?

Use a spell checker first, and then do some real research into Project Apollo.... Once you look at all of the videos, and open your mind, then come back in here and make some intelligent comments..

Damn.... Propagandists not doing research first, and then putting up insulting comments in here, is absolutely astounding!

[travelbytommy]

You are comparing a suit in micro gravity (zero-g) and a suit in lunar gravity (1/6 earth) and that could account for a big change. If you notice the zero-g suit, it is ballooned, but there are still wrinkles. Gravity could form the wrinkles differently. I have seen "moon rocks" in person, and while I did not see the same rocks on the moon, the rocks and dust were unlike anything I had ever seen before. They had abrasive jagged edges, not smooth edges like normal rocks/dust.

[WhiteJarrah]

"I have seen "moon rocks" in person"

So have I. Moon rocks are discussed in "MoonFaker: Exhibit D"

[legoking456]

thankyou!!!!!

[dopje31857]

But nevermind, it's better you do your things here on YT, instead of going 'outside' on the streets and hurting people.

[WhiteJarrah]

Goodbye.

[nrobnas43]

@WhiteJarrah That's what YT is all about. We can discuss the skeletons in our closets without much embarassment. Great site- I'm a subscriber.

[dopje31857]

Well Jarrah, I didn't start the crap.

[WhiteJarrah]

"Well Jarrah, I didn't start the crap."

Funny. Disagreeing with a person about Apollo is one thing, posting childish and immature cheap shots is another. If you wish to continue posting I suggest you refrain from posting these kinds of messages.

[dopje31857]

Great comments! You probably are investigating the way that NOAA was organazing the Tsunami, too.

CIA?

.

Conspiracy Idiots Alliance

.

[WhiteJarrah]

"You probably are investigating the way that NOAA was organazing the Tsunami, too."

Either provide something intelligent to say, or fuck off.

[northerntruthseeker]

Interesting comments, TheGreat911HOAX, based on logic and reasoning.....

Be careful, because now the Propagandists will come in, in vain attempts to cloud and distort your comments!

[northerntruthseeker]

This is getting absolutely ridiculous... We expose the cheap gloves for what they are... cheap! and this clown zakabog continues to try to support the obvious... Very cheap, and very disturbing gloves used in a dangerous vacuum...

Hundreds of thousands of dollars spent, and the protective silicone tips fall off, exposing a deep empty space through to the pinky itself. Where is the underlying protection, zakabog? The video does not lie... There is none!

[johnxxx9]

i SUGGEST that you people stop acting so stupid and somethin else useful!

[TheGreat911HOAX]

just think of actually sending Men to Land on a Planet 240,000 miles away in Unknown territory. The Risks, the complications.

It was never done before. Yet we are to believe that this entire mission was Perfection ? it was flawless, they land, plant the Flag on there, dance around, ride around like children in a 'go kart' waving to us etc.

Just utterly ridiculous , so the crowd back home can chant USA...USA...USA

give me a break, this is absurd and obviously so fake

[TheGreat911HOAX]

I do not believe way back in 69 ' any country had the Technology and massive amount of engineering complexity to pull this off , No Way.

Especially when you study the huge political and social , within and outside of the USA , pressure that was behind all this, it literally was 'do or die' and if it failed, Americas image to its own citizens and around the world have been utterly disasterous.

Plus all that Money that was spent , it HAD to be successful or else, its a Scam

[northerntruthseeker]

And another point of conjecture... These supposed gloves made to survive in the harsh environment of the moon cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.... And nobody bothers to construct them in such a way as to assure that the silicone finger endings don't fall off, and therefore put the Astronauts at risk??? Come on now!!!!

How phony does it have to be to make people realize that something was terribly wrong, and terribly fake!

[zakabog]

"And nobody bothers to construct them in such a way as to assure that the silicone finger endings don't fall off, and therefore put the Astronauts at risk???"

The silicone fingertips are only for improving grip, they do nothing for the safety of the astronaut. The inner glove does that.

[northerntruthseeker]

I do admire the Propagandists for trying at least, and coming up with some plausible explanations...

But for a glove to fail kilometers away from the LEM in the vacuum of the moon is catastrophic!

This Apollo 16 astro-NOT just continues to do his work and not even bother to mention to Houston about the silicone cover falling off which is absolutely insane. It is a life or death environment they were supposedly on, and he doesn't give a damn??? It does make you stop and think....

[northerntruthseeker]

What is this propagandist talking about now?? The exposed pinky piece would have caused the suit itself to fail because it it pressurized.. and this Apollogist continues to try to dismiss it as just a cover falling off (?) !!!

You look closely at that video, and you can see the hole through to the pinky obviously, and a point at which the pressurized air within the suit can escape into the vacuum, causing catastrophic failure! And this Astro-NOT continues on his merry way not worrying! Wow!

[zakabog]

"The exposed pinky piece would have caused the suit itself to fail because it it pressurized.. "

You obviously don't understand how the suit is designed, the outer layer holds no pressure, the silicone piece on the gauntlet is only there to improve grip.

[northerntruthseeker]

sorry NASA PANs... There is a new video out that clearly shows a HOLE through a spacesuit through to a little finger, during the Apollo 16 mission....

The video is: "Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 16: Astronaut Shows His Bare Finger Through a Cut Hole in His Glove"

It must have been extremely hot on the moonsets, and therefore they needed to ventilate those phony spacesuits to allow the astro-NOTS to stay cool!

Time to face reality PANs.... Apollo busted!

[zakabog]

"It must have been extremely hot on the moonsets, and therefore they needed to ventilate those phony spacesuits to allow the astro-NOTS to stay cool!"

Yeah, it's not like they have massive cooling systems on their back with actual vent holes in front of the suit that they could use, instead they ventilate through the gloves, where the hand will block most (if not all) of the air flow.

That's a reasonable argument...

Or it could be that the silicone rubber piece just fell off the pinky...

[pt1gard]

hey zaka,

ever see any wires while going thru nasa's extensive video collection?

[zakabog]

"ever see any wires while going thru nasa's extensive video collection?"

Nope

[xismxist]

Edward White had a G4C, on the moon they used a A7L... two different suits

[philkarn]

What utter bullshit. First, the Gemini and Apollo suits were completely different. Flexibility was a major design concern for Apollo.

Second, the Apollo relief valve did NOT set the Apollo suit operating pressure at 5.2 psi. After the valve closed, the astronaut BREATHED DOWN THE O2 until the suit reached 3.75 psi. Only then did the PLSS add oxygen to keep the pressure at that level. (The breathed O2 became CO2 absorbed in the LiOH canister).

[100ocean]

dude your a clown, do something with your life.

I'll bet you get so many girls with this shit tho. douche bucket.

[cadu1995]

watch?v=0XJFwcA7TOI

WATCH GRUMMAN MOON LANDING LONG ISLAND.

WOW I SEE YOON U ASSHOLES R EVERYWHERE.SURE U DON'T WORK FOR NASA??SOMETHINGS FISHY UTUBE

[LunarTuner]

What nonsense that took 11 minutes to explain!

I see wrinkles on Ed White's EVA suit. I see wrinkles on the Shuttle EVA suit. I see the "Micheline Man" effect clearly on the Apollo A7L. Compare it to an unpressurized A7L!! The A7L's pressurized layer is covered with 5 layers of aluminized Mylar, and 2 layers of Teflon cloth.

Wrinkle? You're reading wrinkles? Try tea leaves. At least you can drink something when you're done.

[Baszottbivaly]

Damn, it took you long to make the point. To answer your question: because their suits were different. Epic fail.

[ImTheSecretSquare]

lol, that's an external covering on the suit called the TEMA. That's why it has wrinkles -- it's not pressurized. The Gemini suit did not have this external covering because they didn't plan to be walking around on a surface with lots of sharp rocks.

You even openly admit that the restraining layer on Apollo was "internal"! On the site about the Gemini suit (which, of course, you don't link to), it clearly says the restraining layer is external.

[ImTheSecretSquare]

"lol, that's an external covering on the suit called the TEMA."

Sorry -- it's called the TMG. I have literally no idea where I got "TEMA" from. Still, though, point remains -- the Gemini and Apollo suits are completely different.

[erelriuj]

You talk annoying

[erelriuj]

This is too confusing for me to understand.

[gen57b]

They tested the Moon vacuum on the gravity of Jupiter's albedo times the square root of the movie slowed down by 64.89999887699898976567%and then it looked just right. And that my friends, proves it.

[7oXiCm4n]

Have a look at this footage (last few minutes) watch?v=gCcwKjaOpfQ

[zakabog]

"Have a look at this footage (last few minutes) watch?v=gCcwKjaOpfQ"

That was from some news channel, they were doing a special along with the moon landings to show people what it would be like when astronauts land on the moon.

[imnazhole]

WAITAMINUTE!! Gravity on earth is 32fps squared. If they did that experiment on the moon, the downward accelleration should be one sixth the accelleration, meaning both feather and hammer should suspend in place for at least a couple of seconds before accellerating to the ground.

[HeadLikeARock]

azhole

I don't think even the most robust Apollo CT proponent is going to agree with that statment.

Stick to the booty vids ;)

[Djclyve]

I wish I had your editing/recording equipment.

[WhiteJarrah]

"I wish I had your editing/recording equipment."

The program I use is called Sony Vegas. I use Vegas 7, it was given to me as a gift. You can purchase Sony Vegas 8 off the internet.

[harooni22]

its rather obvious that in 1969 there was no way to land a man on the moon and return him safely, hell they can't do it today nearly 40 years later. nixon was full of lies.

great video jarrah

[zakabog]

"its rather obvious that in 1969 there was no way to land a man on the moon and return him safely..."

They can't do it today only because of tighter safety restrictions, not because it's impossible. Landing a craft on the moon isn't impossibly difficult and was certainly not impossible back in the 1960s.

[zakabog]

"According to other sources the relief valve never decreased the suit pressure until after it hit 5.5 psi..."

A website as official as the Japanese run fan based "Apollo Maniacs" website couldn't possibly be wrong...

Then on the lunar surface journal you ignore the part below where it says "Thereafter, pressure in the Suit Circuit was maintained at 3.8 psi by the Demand Regulators."

Although that doesn't help your case so of course you ignore it.

[zakabog]

... Jarrah, why are you comparing different style suits?

The Apollo space suits had a layer of neoprene coated nylon to hold the pressure -

tinyurl[dot]com/5aug89

The white layer of the suit is not pressurized and goes on over the pressurized layers.

You're doing exactly what I figured you would do, you're not researching anything anymore, now Ralph Rene tells you something and you make a video about it with no resarch.  Did you even bother to look up the construction of the A7L spacesuit?

[michaelstmark]

" The white layer of the suit is not pressurized and goes on over the pressurized layers."

Goes on over the PRESSURIZED layers? Are you sure? Wouldn't it make more sense to put the white layer on first before pressurization.

[zakabog]

"Goes on over the PRESSURIZED layers? Are you sure? Wouldn't it make more sense to put the white layer on first before pressurization."

... you don't put that part of the suit on yourself. When the suit is manufactured the white layer goes over the top of the layers that would be pressurized, then it stays there. When an astronaut puts on the suit they don't put on each individual layer one at a time.

[michaelstmark]

" That WOULD be pressurized"

Yes, that makes sense... so your "goes on over the pressurized layers" isn't accurate - as it's already incorporated into the UNpressurized clothing system.

Just getting the basics straight - as we all know you like to shade the truth 'bog.

[zakabog]

"Yes, that makes sense... so your "goes on over the pressurized layers" isn't accurate - as it's already incorporated into the UNpressurized clothing system."

Which is later pressurized. Although I don't see how it matters when it's put over the outer layer (although I'm sure it's much easier to put it on when the suit is in pieces) the point is the outer layer is never pressurized, it's over the pressurized layer.

[michaelstmark]

Okay. We finally get the correct Apollo suit basics out of you 'bog. Now, what else might you be shading from your "fastideous" 'net searches we wonder...

[zakabog]

"Okay. We finally get the correct Apollo suit basics out of you 'bog.

Now, what else might you be shading from your "fastideous" 'net searches we wonder..."

... my statement wasn't entirely wrong before

"The white layer of the suit is not pressurized and goes on over the pressurized layers."

It isn't pressurized and it does go over the pressurized layer. I don't exactly see why this is even relevant? Do you have a point?

[michaelstmark]

Sure. You're not always accurate when incorporating your trademark 'net search info' into YT comments.

[zakabog]

"Sure. You're not always accurate when incorporating your trademark 'net search info' into YT comments."

... is that it?  The information was accurate, the wording could have better described the detailed process of making the suit but most people would have understood what I meant from the short statement I made.

Do you agree that the Apollo space suits shouldn't be ballooned because the outer material held no pressure?

[michaelstmark]

Wrong. The wording you gave out gave a false impression. That the outer white layer was fitted over the inner suit once it was pressurized.

Maybe not of earth-shattering import in this instance, but it could be a habit that you're applying to other more vital info.

Just hopefully setting you straight a little, 'bog.

[zakabog]

"Wrong. The wording you gave out gave a false impression. That the outer white layer was fitted over the inner suit once it was pressurized."

I doubt anyone who would have read my comment would think it meant the astronauts had to get the outer nylon layer over the pressurized suit themselves but it's irrelevant now.

I'd like to know if you believe the Apollo space suits outer material should have looked wrinkled the way it did or do you feel it should look ballooned?

[michaelstmark]

I'm still investigating the (to me) newish subject, 'bog. Will get back to you on that in a while.

( wouldn't want to post inaccurate data now :-) )

[zakabog]

"I'm still investigating the (to me) newish subject, 'bog."

Don't you mean zakabog? I don't see anyone named 'bog posting comments, is this what you call research? *sarcasm*

Do you see how your previous point was irrelevant and unnecessarily pedantic? I fully understood how the suit was designed, I accurately explained the layered methods, you failed to understand that I used "pressurized layer" to refer to the layer that would hold pressure (a correct meaning of the term, go look it up.)

[michaelstmark]

No, I mean my abbreviation for your YT ID, and the same as I do with many others, prop' flockers or not.

If you want to use your real name I'll of course fully respect that.

And no it's not pedantic, it's a valid point because it's a generic tendency of yours - shading the 'net research you're constantly doing.

btw How are you getting on with your A15 tent pole flag "rig"?

[zakabog]

"No, I mean my abbreviation for your YT ID, and the same as I do with many others, prop' flockers or not."

It was sarcasm... I know you meant Zakabog, it was quite obvious and I don't have a problem with shortening it to 'bog.

Anyway, my point was the statement was accurate, the word pressurized in my statement meant "designed to hold pressure" and the statement was accurate.

I've got the design of the hinge figured out, just gotta buy some extra poles (so I don't ruin mine.)

[apollotls]

Here's the pressurised part of the suit

3ws (dot)hq(dot)nasa(dot)gov(slash­)office(slash)pao(slash)Histor­y(slash) alsj/a17/ap17-72-H-251(dot)jpg

And if you look at this page, you'll see just how unpressurised White's suit looked during his EVA.

nssdc(dot)gsfc(dot) nasa(dot) gov/planetary/ gemini_4_eva(dot) html

[zakabog]

"btw How are you getting on with your A15 tent pole flag "rig"?"

Good news, the Mythbusters latest episode shows a rig they would have used on the moon, first in an atmosphere and then in a vacuum. I'm sorry to say that the flag in an atmosphere stops moving rather quickly, the pole doesn't add to the flags swinging very much (they moved the pole around, the cross support bounced around a bit but the corner of the flag wasn't swinging.) In a vacuum the flag swung for quite some time.

[Aurinkohirvi]

In a vacuum where? They tested it vacuum on the Moon gravity?

Did they slow the movie 50% too?

[zakabog]

"In a vacuum where? They tested it vacuum on the Moon gravity?"

They tested it in on earth, which is correct because according to the hoax the thing was filmed on earth. The flag stops moving very quickly in earth gravity at atmospheric pressure and the bouncing bar would not account for the flag swinging as long as it does.

[Aurinkohirvi]

A-ha. So they would confirm it was done in a vacuum. Okay, makes sense to do "Moon" footage in vacuum. But what if you slow the video by half? Would it then wave long enough?

[zakabog]

"But what if you slow the video by half? Would it then wave long enough?"

Nope, still swings for only a couple of seconds if you slow it down by half.

[Aurinkohirvi]

Is a couple of seconds longer than in the Apollo 15 video clip? Well, then. If it was a vacuum, how the hell it waves then? Many explanations tried already, no luck so far.

[zakabog]

"Is a couple of seconds longer than in the Apollo 15 video clip?"

Not at all, the Apollo 15 video clip shows the flag swinging for at least 20 seconds.

"If it was a vacuum, how the hell it waves then?"

Don't know for sure but I'd say it was static, others might say something else.

Although it obviously wasn't in an atmosphere due to how much the flag swung after the initial movement. Also, how it moved initially wasn't indicative of it catching air so that theory just doesn't work.

[greenmagoos]

"Also, how it moved initially wasn't indicative of it catching air so that theory just doesn't work."

Have you ever considered stand up comedy as a career zakabog?

You could do funny skits for the mythbusters show in between expts while not mentioning the fluttering Apollo 15 flag.( it appears Dr Plait and the Utah oik also forgot to mention that clip to those two while helping out with the research)

[zakabog]

"You could do funny skits for the mythbusters show in between expts while not mentioning the fluttering Apollo 15 flag."

You mean the one that swings way too long to be in an atmosphere? The one that shows the footage was obviously in a vacuum? That Apollo 15 flag? Or is there another one that swings for a second and stops (without anyone touching it) just like a flag would in an atmosphere?

[greenmagoos]

Yes it so obviously on the Moon the Utah oik doesn't mention it at moon base pick and choose and obviously forgot to discuss it with the mythbusters despite helping research the programme.

[zakabog]

"Yes it so obviously on the Moon the Utah oik doesn't mention it at moon base pick and choose and obviously forgot to discuss it with the mythbusters despite helping research the programme."

There's no definitive answer as to how it moved, only that it couldn't have been in an atmosphere. There are various possible answers but I don't think there will be an explanation posted on clavius until all the possible answers are tested and one exactly replicates the movement of the flag.

[greenmagoos]

"Also, how it moved initially wasn't indicative of it catching air so that theory just doesn't work."

Would you mind explaining this statement of yours?

[zakabog]

"Would you mind explaining this statement of yours? "

The way the flag moved initially, it isn't catching air the flag doesn't ripple only the corner swings.

On top of that there's no explanation as to how the corner would swing for more than a second in an atmosphere, so it's obviously in a vacuum.

[garydal]

Zakabog is exactly correct in what he says. The Moon Faker argument is without any science or intelligent thought so they split hairs in order to gain "some credibility" without fact or intelligent thought, they need "smoke" to cloud their "non-existent science" so other conspiracy idiots get more pointless strings to their bow.

[garydal]

It was all part of the suit. Nobody seen an Apollo walkout? The suits they were wearing as they boarded the van are the SAME ACTUAL suit they wore on the surface. A good clarification of being over the pressurized inner suit is this. It was part of the suit at construction the BETA cloth outer had more material that went over the internal pressure layer that Would be pressurized. The beta fabric was just a NON PRESSURIZED cover. A wrinkled car cover doesn't mean car underneath is wrinkled etc

[garydal]

The white outer layer is a material called Beta Cloth. Invented at JSC, Houston by Dr. Frank Dawn. The reason for the wrinkles is this. As stated above and correctly, the outer beta layer does not get pressurized. In the Apollo lunar suits there were rubber convolutes(sp) at elbows, knees etc. The beta fabric was put on over that with EXTRA material so the when the astronaut moved the elbows etc there was enough material to allow the bed and not act like a strain relief and restrict movement.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

Oh please, do a little research for yourself.

Jarrah does post (from a production point of view)good videos, but mis-presents information to produce a result he wants.

Research for yourself the differences between Lunar EVA suits and the others listed. You might be surprised by your findings (and then pass them on to JW).

[northerntruthseeker]

Really??? And no ballooning outward due to a vacuum??

So what happened with the shuttle EVA's and how that same, or if not better, suits ballooned up, but never on Apollo?

Yes, you can try again harder next time!

[snakehipsohoolihan]

-Five layers of aluminized Mylar interwoven with four layers of Dacron for heat protection

-Two layers of Kapton for additional heat protection

-A flame-resistant layer of Teflon-coated cloth for protection from scrapes

-A flame-resistant layer of white Teflon cloth

Try again.Harder next time.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

The Apollo suit consisted of the following layers:

-A water-cooled nylon undergarment with long tubes sewn into the fabric

-A multi-layered pressure suit:

-----inside layer - lightweight nylon with fabric vents

-----middle layer - neoprene-coated nylon to hold pressure

-----outer layer - nylon to restrain the pressurized layers beneath (cont)

[northerntruthseeker]

Great job again, you crazy Aussie!

The Propagandists will be in shortly....It just takes them a bit of time to huddle together, decide on the latest excuse for NASA, and decide who's turn it is to attack and distort this video!

[Yagshemash10749]

Jarrah, you rock! As always. Thanks for the series.

[PepsiAddict18]

This is really interesting, Jarrah. Excellent work!