Stanley Kubrick: The Prophecy of 2001 Part 1

[RideMyGMC]

2001 : the ultimate conspiracy film...If they (the elites) find aliens, if they make contact, they´ll be damned if they let us (regular folk) in on it.

[983215ljhlkadbspig6y]

The spinning ring to simulate gravity would work in space, but not the way they depict it in the film. You need gravity in the first place to have centripital force. If there's no gravity, you can't spin a ring to spread that force out. You would need to use the force of drag. If there's no gravity, and you're floating in a ring, and then started spinning it, how is it possible to stick to the outside rim? You would keep floating, until you bumped into a verticle wall, or partition.

[cowboyx1970]

ok, what the guy said about science fiction having a terrible record predicting things is just wrong beyond belief, what a dunce.

[cowboyx1970]

really they have a guy from star wars II making any sort of comment? He must need a wheelbarrow to carry his balls around.

[charms71]

what is more dangerous in space? temperature?

[madahad9]

Several years ago Keir Dullea did a q & a at the movie theater I work at and I got to speak to him privately for a brief time but now continue to have questions I wished I asked him. I should have prepared a little better. I just didn't want to come off as another geek. These were questions that aspired a little higher. I wished I asked him what he thought the movie was about. Like Kubrick's favorite film Eraserhead, 2002 is multi-interpretational. I still see no religion.

[MannySteinerBIeeky]

@madahad9 - another (more off topic sort of anyway) link from Alphaville to latter fims - Brazil, in Brazil there is also a change of name that confuses the machinations of the state (lemmy caution / harry tuttle).

[MannySteinerBIeeky]

@TheParadiseIsNow - if he'd done AI, it would have probably have been like all the best anime mecha rolled into one film.

[roachy333]

When Stan was talking about this in a religious sense....he obviously was referring to the kabbalah....the film is absolutely stuffed with it!

[MannySteinerBIeeky]

@roachy333 - the Ka'ab-allah, a large black Metatrons cube - from outer space....

[roachy333]

@MannySteinerBIeeky

Yes the stone @ mecca is an aspect....but kabbalah (as I meant it) as in Jewish mysticism....tree of life/death etc. Search out Weidner's piece Alchemical Kubrick....for a good opener to the subject.

[MannySteinerBIeeky]

@roachy333 - i meant that too, is why i put a Metatron mention in. ta for link.

cube = six-pointed star when it's 2d, by way of say, the stella octangula merkabah (chariot) ( 8 points in 3d, but the Seal of Solomon is a 2d rendering of it ).

[roachy333]

@MannySteinerBIeeky

Ok Manny...I hear ya, I just made a quick response....sorry for not noticing. Interesting that Metatron is compared to Enoch (some say the real inspiration for St John's Revelation) by the kabbalists and as for the whole platonic solids issue... its a pretty deep well, we could be dealing with micro & macro frequencies of reality....but this is only youtube!

[MannySteinerBIeeky]

@roachy333 - oh yeah, Book of Enoch is about the watchers etc, in their chariots.

Enoch went up to heaven, possibly Nibiru, maybe a less dense physicality, in his chariot.

depends whether you stay in a kind of physical-form astral, or you go into the non-symbol-realms might be a good description.

[FrightNightTV]

@TheParadiseIsNow OMG, its a shitty soulless movie packed with dumb loads of sfx, Michaeal Bay is a moneyfiend without taste in cinema. Püh! Spit on that. Its easy watching, this movie is amazing and more than that. imho

[SilverShamrock71]

04:04 no stars lmfao..

[madahad9]

I've always interpreted HAL as god, He is an omnipotent being who can on a melicious whim kill off a species that it is supporting and not give the matter a second thought. When Dave Bowman disconnects (kills) HAL he is reiterating the Nietzsche proclomaation GOD IS DEAD. When he exits the Discovery he is taking his fate and future into his own hands. Kubrick has called this a "religious" film. I don't really see this. I do think it is his most optimistic film.

[MannySteinerBIeeky]

@madahad9  - "Kubrick has called this a "religious" film."

it got a Vatican seal of approval too, a thing missed by oh so many people, as to why any church is agreeing not only are monkeys involved in evolution, but yes - evolution, and yes - evolution via things placed into here purposely by aliens or creator beings / consciounsess etc.

[MannySteinerBIeeky]

@madahad9 - HAL looks like the Alpha-60 (in Alphaville), Godard also wrote an essay or article in the 60s that used a pen name sounding like Star Wars characters, just as another link to this film (the models being inspirational for Star Wars).

hero with a thousand faces (Campbell book) = the missing or deaded superheros in Alphaville

[MannySteinerBIeeky]

@madahad9 - another (more off topic sort of anyway) link from Alphaville to latter fims - Brazil, in Brazil there is also a change of name that confuses the machinations of the state (lemmy caution / harry tuttle).

[iwantoldschool]

IMHO 2001: A Space Odyssey was never a science or technology film but in fact a religious film. The higher life forms behind the monolith were a nod at a spiritual presence - Spinoza's "Not He who is, but That which is" - and the monolith was kind of a quick key for whatever you call "God". If you Wiki it, Kubrick felt the same way, that his film was religious; and I never knew that until after his death. The above, once again, is only my opinion of it.

[Jabberwock156]

I don't think Kubrick's intention with this film was to portrait a realistic future or depict acurrate space images, that's just the most superficial aspect of the movie. It is true that most of the movies develops in space and in the future, which is typical in sci-fi movies, however, ironically, I wouldn't even classify Space Odyssey as a sci-fi movie, so much as an spiritual movie.

[thisNewFoundLand]

...Kubrick's 2001 is staggering in its technical genius; and sublime in its challenge to the viewer to examine the nature of consciousness engaging consciousness...

thanks for the many uploads goodfellaOS!

[straker2]

Kubrick's movies are researched to the nth degree and controlled to absolute perfection and so he gave us the best thing anyone could, a film which predicts accurately the general nature of our current world. He kicked the ball right out of the park when he predicted that we would have dependency on computers but also that this technology would be dangerous if not handled right. Flat screens, computer chess games, watching TV as we eat, our modern world is inside the Discovery!

[revolutionary47]

'Sci-Fi didn't predict personal computers, feminism, international terrorism.'

Well why didn't it predict feminism? This is my biggest regret of Science Fiction is that it did not predict feminism. I wish I would have seen that wave coming on...

[Bo0stStudios]

One of those guys was an idiot lol

[lukebccb]

We didn't get there cause we didn't burn enough witches at the stake.

[stiggyh]

i cant believe how far behind we are now in 2012 in comparison to the movie wich is too optimistic as to how the space technology is

[inaband]

I fucking hate the stock dramatic music that the documentary makers have used for the soundtrack of this documentary. When it coinsides with 'silent' clips from the film, it utterly destroys them and changes the whole quality of the film. One of the best things about this film is that it is mostly silent, and what music there is, is Strauss and adds a completely undramatic beauty to the film - hardly the cheap star wars style dramatic music as featured on this documentary.

[lordnecro82]

star wars 1,2,3 really sucks!!!!. 2001 rules!!!

[hozayamz]

2001 is a cryptic expose of the NWO and NASA- everything point to Bowman and Poole as Gemini- the Discovery ship represents project Mercury, and 3 frozen astronauts represent Apollo- Gemini was being "killed" in favor of Apollo. The moon missions could not have been accomplished with the stage-props we were shown. Lucas- who has said that 2001 was a better movie than Star Wars- is according to Cathy O'Brien, working for the NSA. Interesting. Why the interest in shaping our fantasies?

[tiarnan76]

@hozayamz Its called indoctrination - Kubrick did the moon landings at the same time as 2001 - and nearly went insane because of it - thats what the shining was really about - he used kings novel as a vehicle to tell what he had to do ....they want to create an illusory space war to bring the world into a 1 world govt and they can only do it if we all believe in ET's and space travel - (its impossiblle to go beyond the van allen belt and et's dont exist)

[Beamshipcaptain]

@tiarnan76 Ets exist, it is a mathematical iposibility for them not to, and we found worlds orbiting other stars recently that are similar to Earth, scientists said the possibility of life there was "100%". Plus, you can go thru the Van Allen belts if you go quicly, but its better to avoid them altogether by going thru the poles, as the belts are equatorial.

[tiarnan76]

@Beamshipcaptain Todays aliens are just the reappaearance of the demons of old - For example The Ashtar Command, are named after a Babylonian demon known as Ashtoreth. This is spoken of in Ephesians - "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." The rest of the universe is uninhabited, and was created by God for us.

[Beamshipcaptain]

@tiarnan76 That is absurd. There are no supernatural agencies, only CREATION force, and Nature. THe same processes that led to the evolution of life on Earth operate in the entire cosmos, which is so vast we cannot conceive. PLUS science has conceded to the reality of innumerable ather universes, and parallel dimensions. It is a statistical impossibility for there NOT to be life elsewhsere, at all stages of development. We are NOT unique. The military knows of at least 4 alien species.

[TheTobyimages]

Interesting that no one in this vid really gets the message kubrick was trying to make. The film is about the fact that there is much much more to reality beyond what we can conceive.

[983215ljhlkadbspig6y]

@TheTobyimages It's about more than just that too. It's packed with ideas. The idea that the tools we use to benefit it us have the possibility of rendering us obselete, is just one idea worth mentioning. I view the film as a complete philosophical work, that provides explanations and opinions of just about everything concerning the human condition. It addresses questions of This World, and and even Other Worlds too.

[madman778]

Errr..... Arthur C Clarke wrote 2001. I don't think you can't credit Kubrick for the predictions... Arthur C Clarke also went on to help design the Moon lander. These people are fucking retards if they think this was Kubrick's vision of the future

[tomfoyfx]

@madman778 They wrote it together.

[vAmpyr616]

@madman778 am you do know that Kubrick asked clarke to write the book for him. they both came up with the ideas and the film and book were being made at the same time. arthur c clarke even says that kubrick should have been credited as a co-author. also clarke would come in to kubrick and ask him what was next in the book and anything kubrick didnt like, clarke had to get rid of

[alexlee7773]

star wars prequels...what a bag of wank.

[Jimster666]

why are they just comparing the film to what 2001 was in real life?

pointing out all the 'inaccuracies'. this 'special feature' doesn't give the film the credit deserves.

[VexT916]

Star Wars is not even Sci-Fi, it's nerd space fantasy dammit!!!

2001 Space Odyssey rules 4 lyfe!

[DOMuricu]

The main reason the year 2001 was chosen was that it was the start of a new Millenium: a major landmark in history that features, in the film, the next step in human evolution. I don't know if Kubrick really thought that most of what was in the film was likely to occur by 1999/2001. Remember the Discovery scenes take place during 2001, 18 months after the previous scenes in Earth orbit or on the moon.

[roloug95]

rob coleman who ever the fuck you are shut your fat mouth you dickhead. i can say right now that his space is better than anything you've ever done in your shitty star wars movies

[boriato]

Why do these guys say no one had seen Earth from space? Yuri Gagarin, Valentina Tereshkova, Alexei Leonov, Alan Shepard, John Glenn come to mind. Leonov probably got an awesome view. And he was a bit of an artist himself, and probably would have been happy to work with artists tasked with the effects in the film. Did anyone make an effort to call 'em up & have dinner with him?

And the lunar surface does NOT look authentic; it looks water-eroded!

[boriato]

This film's space travel scenes have plenty of impossibilities (I call 'em "astro-bloopers") but still, they give you the feeling of being in space so much better than so many other films! Compare with Star Wars: sound audible through a vacuum, laser beams visible before they even hit anything (and travelling at visible velocities), FLT with no explanation, multiple alien species speaking fluent English (& understaning each other when they don't). At least 2001 avoided much of such silliness.

[USTUBE4000]

@boriato Don't forget, using lightsabers with no safety feature for accidental activation plus the laser feature of the blade somehow stops at about 4 feet without hitting any object. Just stupid and down right impossible. Speaking of which, not only should sound not be audible in space, but John Williams score should not be heard either. And, how does roll up text appear and disappear in space? Weird. But the multiple aliens speak fluent English 'cause they studied it in school.

[boriato]

@USTUBE4000 The point is, at least 2001 made an attempt to be consistent with science, though it made mistakes. It's therefore respectable as sci-fi. If you're in the generation that saw 2001 in theaters & later saw Strek, SW, BSG, etc., you likely noticed that these others didn't even try. The SW series even has a subtle (or not) anti-science theme - okay (barely) for fantasy, but annoying for sci-fi. It's just a little ironic that people who worked on the SW prequels are admiring 2001.

[polghirstenskoetter]

Thanks for uploading! My original DVD edition doesn't contain anything besides the main film, so this is great to see.

[USA4July1776]

Thanks to Leftists, instead of space travel we have welfare.

[boriato]

@USA4July1776 I agree with the late Carl Sagan on this one: we won't be able to settle on another world in the foreseeable future. For now, Earth is where we make our stand (or where we fall). If you want space travel (and you should), start by making THIS world a better place for the poorest & most vulnerable among us. Then, with fewer social ills to worry about, space travel will be a more realistic & justifiable option.

[almanacofsleep]

@USA4July1776 lol that got to be the stupidest thing I read in a while

[vladrvladr]

@USA4July1776 unfortunately fort you, teabagging moron, it is thanks to the commies and nazis that you had space travel.when you did -- the nazis provided the scientists, and the commies provided the motivation.

[USA4July1776]

@vladrvladr Despite your moronic slight which reduced only you, I totally agree with your assessment of the enviornmental factors which engaged America into the space age... yet everything I've said remains true and uncontested by your otherwise legitimate statement.

[rdecredico]

Fascinating to hear all these talking heads missing the point entirely.  Of course some of them may have gotten it, but need to address the more commercial aspects of releasing a DVD and tailoring their perspective to the masses that will never come close to taping into the hidden narrative Kunrick embedded in his work,

[dangkoen]

The chapter "Jupiter and beyond the infinite" in the movie reminds me of a line in the book: "and he (Bowman)slept for the last time" or something similar. The image in the film looks more like a dream if we look close and it's possible Bowman was actually already in his sleep, experiencing his transformation. So the scenes (infinite and the final one)are imo kinda reversed. The ship is just still there bcz he is on it and so automatically dreams about it...

[joshgura]

i dont trust any of these faces.

[lifeson46]

every frame of 2001 is a feast,every detail just amazing.

[rhetoricalparadox]

Kubrick never said or thought that all of this would take place in space by the year 2001....he used the year 2001 to suggest it would happen some time after the year 2000.

[GhostSnake]

LOL at Arthur's shirt.

[IfIfsandands]

The most accurate vision of the future was in William Gibson's books about cyberspace in the 80's. I think that has more to do with life imitating art than anything else.

[eirikmatias]

I just watched Moon from 2009, and though it has some of the style as 2001, the special effects in 2001 is waaayyy better

[dangkoen]

@eirikmatias It's 2010 xD

[migueldj1980]

hope that some time in the future the mayority of people will get the real meaning of this movie and all the symbology that is display here Kubrick went much farder than just a sci-fi film!!!

[PIKlynch]

actually , kubrick was working with the movie at the same time clarke wrote the book.......

[davidrodgersNJ]

They seem to be giving credit for the "vision of the future" to Stanley Kubric, when in fact it was Arthur Clarke's vision.

[NuclearPlanet]

@davidrodgersNJ actually they wrote the book together. It's just stanley didn't won't credit.

[davidrodgersNJ]

Clarke is an author, and Kubrick is a director. I'm still quite confident it was Clarke's "vision" much more than it was Kubrick's. However, thanks for your comment.

[vladrvladr]

@NuclearPlanet actually IIRC they reached an agreement: Clarke would not be credited in the movie, Kubrick would not be credited in the book.

[LittleEmoBoy001]

everything in this movie would have happened if the government didn't slow things down so damned much with their archaic economy.

[davidrodgersNJ]

Amen, brother.

[BuddhaMaster84]

2001 a space odyssey for me still and will always stand above the rest. It just looks real.... It would be so awesome if film-makers would go back to model's and old-shool style, but combine it with all technical improvements, advantages, inovations... you could do 10'000 times more realistic shot's than you ever get with computers... I just don't dam understand it :(

[blabla727]

@BuddhaMaster84 Its probably because the cost would be gargantuan.

[BuddhaMaster84]

@blabla727 excuse me, but cost s, for miniature models? How about millions for computer graphics artists, they are not exactly what you call cheap!

[TheClaraWhisperer]

@randomlaughingman Thank you for that crazy explanation I thought I was going to have to ask the Amazing Kreskin but now I won't have to.

P.S. Who is more worthy of your praise the Care Bears or Winnie The Pooh?

[randomlaughingman]

@TheClaraWhisperer = child-molester cult member.

kill yourself faggotscum.

[TheClaraWhisperer]

@randomlaughingman Won't you be my neighbor Clara?

[randomlaughingman]

@TheClaraWhisperer = child-molester cult member, youtube know all about it and how many channels it has, all used for harassment and abuse.

kill yourself faggot.

[SocratesTheGadfly]

@BuddhaMaster84 budgets and money. old school style was EXPENSIVE because you must PAY people to make those things and today the EXPERTISE would be EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE because there are very few of them still living. computers are cheaper, easier, faster and are very easy to work with as long as you have someone controlling the computer.

[PIKlynch]

this is not a movie for a perception of those who worked in star wars, it´s just that simple. 2001:a space odyssey is millions of years ahead the rest, in which special effects are at service of the audience, just like spielberg´s style.

[PIKlynch]

Such a shame that all this fellas are thinking just in technology used in the film. When a movie like this that indeed goes so beyond the superficial, it´s so poor to talk just about the authenticity of sciene used in the film. This is a movie that deals with everything concerning evolution , man vs machine, life,death and an eventual rebirth in the unknown of the universe. i´m almost sure that Kubrick would prefer to talk about the fund of the film more than the way of making it

[BUDDY6414724297]

Silent Running's art direction was what future sci-fi filmmakers imitated instead of 2001.

But it is still a great movie.

[buckj54]

I guarantee that Kubrick was more concerned with the subversive and unspoken themes of the film than possible scientific accuracy thirty years down the road. There is a reason he used a circular rotating station...not because he thought it would become 'reel', but because of its symbolic meaning...read Rob Ager's film analysis (more in depth) or look up the video version here on youtube.

[ausseratem]

@buckj54

You hit the mark. The exoteric and the esoteric...

I also strongly recommend Alan Watt's analysis, you can find it in our Alan Watt playlist.

Truth rising in the Globe Theatre!

[darkfox404]

2:47 never happened yet ;)

[Ponylony]

He can hardly be credited with such a visionary mind, when in reality what he really did was check his background stuff. It's not a case of standing and thinking "Hmm, we'll probably see these in 2001", instead he carefully studied material about technology and what was being developed and so forth, as he did with all his films.

[Russenliebchen]

Ich halte Stanley Kubrick für den Dostojewski des 20. Jahrhunderts

[ErikJoeNoise02]

indeed!!!

[singana1]

@wittenbergdoor haha what a travesty

[GiantEnemyCrab63]

@wittenbergdoor win win win win

[alexlee7773]

@wittenbergdoor ha exactly

[kenm31388]

can you tell me what the music is at 7:46? if not, do you know who was the composer was for this featurette? thanks

[iaralillylynosjohn]

kubrick was a visionary, people like him gives me inspiration

[gruff5]

Thanks for putting this up, I'm a big 2001 fan!