im sorry i dont understand japanese could any1 tell me please something about the video? why the screams? i find the techniques effective, but why the many hits when u already hit the partner on the head?
@iaijin first of all the screams; screaming is supposedly the way kendoka's express their attitude and energy towards kendo. second, the multiple hits because, well, the more the merrier. and i guess the video supposed to be like a mini showreel of their members... i guess... i can only speak japanese but not read... :))
this sword style(kenjutsu) propose is one kill by my soul, so they hit again after hit partner. this style has no def fence, just offences. moreover, the unique scream meaning is to make falter to others. however, this style is not looks good and not useful now, so unfortunately, it will be obsoleted style, i guess.
1) you are correct. I don't know what I'm seeing. Why don't you be helpful and educate me? It reminds me slightly of Kendo with all the screaming, but I've never seen this before.
2) I am not making fun of the video. I gave it a good rating, and favorited it. I certainly would not want to get in a fight with any of these guys because I'd be dead in no time.
3) I don't need your permission or approval to laugh, but thanks anyway.
@henhun you don't need my permission to laugh for sure and you certainly don't need me to educate you, there is a very well known and old concept called research which is made even easier on the internet by a tool called "search engine", i highly recommend using the one called google. Something else the first laugh was ok since its reason was ignorance which BTW happened to me too but the second laugh comes from stupid inflated ego.
1) I freely admitted I don't know what I'm seeing and that those guys could kick my *ass. These sound like the words of somebody with a "stupid inflated ego?"
2) I don't NEED your help. I merely thought that if you would waste your time nagging me because I laughed then you might actually consider doing something productive like sharing your vast knowledge.
3) I laughed once.
4) I am done arguing on the internet. I will not respond again.
@Defsolid and what exactly should one such as I, who would like to know more about this search for? "screaming like a hobo kenjutsu"? somehow I doubt it is called that. it looked to me like the screaming was edited in but maybe not. with our without the screaming there is some very interesting sword work going on here and I'd like to know what it is. I don't read Japanese well enough to understand some of these posts or the stuff written by the poster.
This is the strangest sword style ive ever seen. Interesting, but strange. However, if it were several hundred years ago and I faced off against someone waving a razor sharp blade around howling like a banshee, id probably slowly back away and run.
i respect the school since i know the style is really effective. only i dont like the guys on this vice. the use the bokken whit theyr arm strenght... instead of using theyr body to dictate the atack. as technique is really good but as actual practice they became lasy on the actual technique. i repit... on this video... i have seen the headmaster of the style and thats amazing.
Guys~ I think that absurd action and "scream", are for the practise only, including the kiai. I don't think they will do the same thing in the real fight.
But any way. I think we always do something "looks" stupit or absurd when we are practising. What ever in IAI, Kendo, driving or playing ball games... but we know that's work...
Hey, I said it "may" the practise. Some kind of worm up. There are many way to do one thing. We are not one of them, so I guest this is not good of us to judge them, because there maybe some thing we don't know the true meaning of they to do this.
But no doubt this is a little bit amusing, I also learn Kendo and Iaido before, and none of us doing this and I shall never doing this, I guest.
I just can say, I won't do it but I can't say they are wrong :P
i think all unnecessary action is to be removed from one's technique, and even though it might be efficient to scream and swing your sword like an idiot, it's a long way from being necessary to do so if you want to defend yourself/kill your enemy
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fuck the samurai the shinobi no mono whipped their asses in fedual japan (bujinkan) i wouldn't fear these retards i'll let them taste my cold steel ninjato. domo arigato***bows
The Jigen Ryu practitioner is screaming like that as a kiai and the constant nature of it is because as you can see they strike with rapidly. Also, the high pitch is to intimidate your opponent and shaken his defence. Think about it, some guy screaming like that at you while swinging a sword at you that fast and constantly pretty intimidating.
Only if they hit you. Going so hard against someone who can defend a few can give the impression of a child throwing a temper tantrum. 'Course that can be used as well.
It can be looked at that way. But keep in mind that this was the dominant style for the entire Province of Satsuma and was quite feared throughout Japan. Even today it is considered the most aggressive style of kenjutsu in existance as well as the most combat effective style left today.
o Yes,Jigen for sure,glad that it is not Hoki-ryu!2Hoki ryu kata in Zen Nippon Kendo Renmei Iaido..:Soete tsuki and Kesa giri.but no kiai,never..the kiaithat we see in the vid is so funny..you can make a man laugh to death!maybe that is the purpose,the moment your opponent starts smiling..kirioroshi!haha
見た目の綺麗さこそないが驚くほど実践的だ…
木刀での演習だと笑ってしまうようだけど、
小太刀での連打のシーンなど真剣だったらと思うとゾッとする。
自分が名のある剣豪だったとしても絶対斬り合いたくない剣法だ。
JinseiGame28 3 months ago
腕を小刻みに切りつけたり
遠い間合いから足を切りつけたり
一刀両断というイメージからは遠いな。
anzen79 6 months ago
初めて真剣でした場合はド緊張するものだが、この剣においては初戦で死ぬ確立が低そうだと思った。教えも単純でとにかく切れのみだから実戦において最強かも・・・・。
真剣においては、生きてこそ宮本武蔵の境地にいけるのだから
kamo202 6 months ago 2
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spinach5drink 6 months ago
激剣と言うより怪剣だな。
inuoh1000 6 months ago
示現流の独特な喝が相手を怯ませ、左右交互に繰り出される強烈な斬撃が人を肉塊にするそうです。
まさに必殺剣
Kagerou0218 7 months ago
近藤勇曰く 「薩摩っぽの初撃は交わせ」
KontaroOki 7 months ago 3
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KontaroOki 7 months ago
im guessing this is jigen ryu?
LanLanW 7 months ago
@LanLanW
exactly
MultiJudge777 2 months ago
再起はんぱないwwww
ryouya02 7 months ago
im sorry i dont understand japanese could any1 tell me please something about the video? why the screams? i find the techniques effective, but why the many hits when u already hit the partner on the head?
iaijin 8 months ago
@iaijin first of all the screams; screaming is supposedly the way kendoka's express their attitude and energy towards kendo. second, the multiple hits because, well, the more the merrier. and i guess the video supposed to be like a mini showreel of their members... i guess... i can only speak japanese but not read... :))
dexudus 7 months ago
@iaijin
this sword style(kenjutsu) propose is one kill by my soul, so they hit again after hit partner. this style has no def fence, just offences. moreover, the unique scream meaning is to make falter to others. however, this style is not looks good and not useful now, so unfortunately, it will be obsoleted style, i guess.
MultiJudge777 2 months ago
現代人が表面的な印象で捉えても仕方がないと思います。話題に上る初度「再起(せき)」は
多人数を想定した技とのことで、現代剣道と比べられるものではありません。
以下、横瀬知行・著『日本の古武道』(日本武道館)の示現流兵法剣術の項より。
・熾烈な立木打の稽古や、一刀のもとに敵を斬り伏せる太刀筋などから、一般に示現流は
質実にして剛健な印象が持たれている。それは確かに示現流の一面ではあるのだが、
同流にはきわめて高度で緻密な剣術理論が伝承されていることはあまり知られていないようである。
・小太刀は脇差しなどの小太刀の技、再起、三ツ太刀は多数の敵を想定した型である。
・立木打によって徹底した斬撃力と気力を養成し、段階的に精妙な剣技を学んでいく。
その両面が完成して、初めて伝説に聞くような強さを発揮するのではないだろうか。
5kasen 9 months ago
足の動きがまったくわからない!!!
すげぇな、示現流。
hiyosuchin 9 months ago
怖くて当たり前。抜き身でこんな斬りかかり方されたら誰でも怯む、怯んでる間にバッサリ、そんな剣。武士や剣客すらも怯ませる気迫こそが真髄。技術をタイマンで勝てる域まで磨き上げるにはどうしても本人の素養とか体格とかが必要になるけど、これなら人を斬れる程度の打ち込みさえできれば後は気迫だけ。こうして日本中が恐れる薩摩隼人が量産された。
ddjunk0007 9 months ago
剣道やっている者ですが・・・真剣でも木刀でも、やられたら絶対に怖いですね・・・
minntyoutai 10 months ago
狂気じみててこわいな・・・
kontsnagta 11 months ago
再起。
chiou711 11 months ago
近藤勇の「初太刀は外せ」は、示現&自顕問わず両方だと思われます。
あと、「俺でも勝てる」的なことを言ってる人もいましたが、そんな程度の強さなら現代まで残ってません。
大体、極意とかそういう技は人前で見せないしね。
sirbine0ab 1 year ago
lol... WTF was that supposed to be?
del885 1 year ago
@del885 lol yoooo i have no clue but that was priceless
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
この木刀持った事ある人なら知ってるだろうけど
意外と重い。 素人なら連続で打つのもしんどい。
ちなみに示現流は上級武士で自源流は下級武士が習っていたらしい。
基本の打ち込みをしっかりやっていれば実戦において差はないと思う。
junhamamura8 1 year ago
00:31(´・ω・`)!!
manatsunoyonoyume 1 year ago
what is that, it looks so strange
Blausamurai 1 year ago
30秒のやつ、自分の木刀で試したけどあんなに早く振れないよ。
すごいな。
kuraya7 1 year ago
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えっこれ お笑いで作ったんじゃないの?
SkyThief 1 year ago
好強
不過有必要叫成這樣嗎= =
LP30KM 1 year ago
あの近藤勇でさえ「薩摩っぽの初撃は外せ」って言ってるくらいだからね。
KontaroOki 1 year ago
てか20秒と36秒、、、容赦ねえ
miura21991387 1 year ago
It is scary.
suteramarinn 1 year ago
なんかわかるような気がする
実際に真剣持ってあの感じで来られたらめちゃめちゃ怖いよね
ryoubun2009 1 year ago
流石です。
arahanman 1 year ago
ん、薬丸自顕流ではないのですか?某所で行われた奉納演武で実際に見ました。
なんというか、すごいですよね。叫びながら飛びかかるとか。
多くの他流派の居合とは全く違って一線を画していると思います。
sayakakkk 1 year ago
Awesome.. that shit is so funny. It remind me of the fighting scene in the 2001 movie "Stereo Future".
tubetubetube 1 year ago
wha...wha.. was tha can do with anything?!! O-o
bmw9098 1 year ago
ahahahahhhhh haaaaaaaaaaaa
henhun 1 year ago
@henhun laughing is ok since you don't know what you're seeing.
Defsolid 1 year ago
@Defsolid
1) you are correct. I don't know what I'm seeing. Why don't you be helpful and educate me? It reminds me slightly of Kendo with all the screaming, but I've never seen this before.
2) I am not making fun of the video. I gave it a good rating, and favorited it. I certainly would not want to get in a fight with any of these guys because I'd be dead in no time.
3) I don't need your permission or approval to laugh, but thanks anyway.
henhun 1 year ago
@henhun you don't need my permission to laugh for sure and you certainly don't need me to educate you, there is a very well known and old concept called research which is made even easier on the internet by a tool called "search engine", i highly recommend using the one called google. Something else the first laugh was ok since its reason was ignorance which BTW happened to me too but the second laugh comes from stupid inflated ego.
Defsolid 1 year ago
@Defsolid
1) I freely admitted I don't know what I'm seeing and that those guys could kick my *ass. These sound like the words of somebody with a "stupid inflated ego?"
2) I don't NEED your help. I merely thought that if you would waste your time nagging me because I laughed then you might actually consider doing something productive like sharing your vast knowledge.
3) I laughed once.
4) I am done arguing on the internet. I will not respond again.
henhun 1 year ago
@Defsolid and what exactly should one such as I, who would like to know more about this search for? "screaming like a hobo kenjutsu"? somehow I doubt it is called that. it looked to me like the screaming was edited in but maybe not. with our without the screaming there is some very interesting sword work going on here and I'd like to know what it is. I don't read Japanese well enough to understand some of these posts or the stuff written by the poster.
Ianflaer 1 year ago
cazz so scemi questi??
manumole 1 year ago
東郷重位の古流を伝える貴重な映像です。裂帛の気合いに粛然とします。
028135 1 year ago
This is the strangest sword style ive ever seen. Interesting, but strange. However, if it were several hundred years ago and I faced off against someone waving a razor sharp blade around howling like a banshee, id probably slowly back away and run.
LotusDragon09 1 year ago
@LotusDragon09 my sentiments exactry.
henhun 1 year ago
ㄜ...好傻眼= =我的嘴巴一直開著....
werth568 1 year ago
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死日本鬼子!!!!
通通給我下地獄啦!!!!!!!!!!!
LoveFCU 1 year ago
剣道はスポーツではありません。
武道です。
xhxrxkx 1 year ago 3
やはり実践では一撃が勝負決めるし非常に分かりやすく単純な故最強だったんだと思う
剣道はスポーツだからど真剣で人は切れない、やはり第一撃が勝負は理にかなってる
hypnotyze3333 1 year ago
真剣勝負では思い切りが大事なんですね。
実戦じゃ進むか引くかしかないですから。
中途半端が一番良くない。
竹刀剣道でも大事な所は同じでしょう。
junhamamura8 1 year ago 3
技のバリエーションは無く、とにかく相手の体を切ればよい。
防御は考えず、自分の命一個で、敵の命一個を取ればよい、という発想の剣です。
日本剣道から消えていくのが分かる感じですね。
Ak74mn545 2 years ago 30
Very interesting
Shahkhalfranco 2 years ago
すごい気迫ですね(汗
怖いただ実演されてる方、
小手先の剣に見えました。
自分も注意されたことがあるので
しかし、流石示現流新撰組にも
恐れられただけありますね!
totsugekibanzai 2 years ago
率直に真剣だったらこの方々達はヤバイと思う。確かに「気狂いの剣法」だったかな?そのように形容されるのもわかるが攻撃は最大の防御、その気合といい(猿なんとか、といった)私は凄いと思うけれど。
TENGMAN2 2 years ago 2
太刀筋が人体の中でも太い血管が集中かつ表層に近い場所を連打してますね。
実際、日本刀の切れ味を考えて、この勢いで一太刀浴びれば。
競技としての一本とは違う世界。
非常に理に適った実戦的な剣術と感心致しました。感服。
azarasi222 2 years ago 7
なるほど
戦場の刀は毒的なもの塗ってあるとか言いますしね、当たれば致命傷。
実際に立ち会ったら
いろんな意味で戸惑いそうな動きですw
だから実戦向けなんでしょうね。
MsRedled 2 years ago
自分は剣術は知りませんが、高校時代の友人が(鹿児島出身です)毎朝、示現流の稽古をしてから学校にきていました。
樫の棒みたいなので、立ち木をひたすら撃つそうです。示現流は一の太刀だけ、だそうですので、集団で戦う時に、全員でこれを徹底すれば、相当、怖いのではないかなと思います。
jun11280 2 years ago 2
刀はよく切れる大きな、そして相当重量がある包丁だとしたら、コンコンと当てるだけでダメージは十分あるのではないか。だとしたらチョイチョイと切り込む動作は一見ふざけて見えるが理に敵ってはいないだろうか。
kimjh555 2 years ago 2
示現流、とんぼの構えで有名な薩摩伝統の流派ですね
しかしこれはひどいw やっている人がひどいと見るべきでしょう
shaltreas 2 years ago
lol
bowley4 2 years ago
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this is a joke, right?
ryankihoon 2 years ago
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I would ask the same question. Wow. = \
JoshMattia 2 years ago
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示現流か・・・これなら勝てるわ
kinakomochi2617 2 years ago
@kinakomochi2617 史実ではそうではなかったわけで。
hiyosuchin 1 year ago
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司馬遼太郎の《翔ぶが如く》でこの薩摩示現流を知った。でも、申し訳ありませんが、あまり馬鹿そうです明治十年の戦争の時、薩摩士族は本当この流派で戦いましたか。
vc05349 2 years ago
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Foolish Chinese...
69kapa 2 years ago
this cry vois is 「猿叫(enkyou)」 =monkey cry.
jigenryu is most strong samurai budou.
lock like fool.but. they are formidable opponent.
urojio 2 years ago 4
Every human obey's the laws of steel
never the less, Jigen Ryu trains speed and power. Kiai sounds like shit, but it probably scares ur opponents away
Pakkaslordi 2 years ago
No these practitioners do not believe they are Samurai. Only tossers like Karl Beattie believes themselves to be Samurai for real.
FredDude27 2 years ago
i respect the school since i know the style is really effective. only i dont like the guys on this vice. the use the bokken whit theyr arm strenght... instead of using theyr body to dictate the atack. as technique is really good but as actual practice they became lasy on the actual technique. i repit... on this video... i have seen the headmaster of the style and thats amazing.
imthemaker 2 years ago
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I don't understand this. I just got a picture of an old woman chasing someone with her walking stick.
Trgvo 2 years ago
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they are samurai? rsrsrsrs.........only in their crazy mind!!!
darie1 2 years ago
hahahhhahahaha
iceymanjack 2 years ago
これが...薩摩示現流か...何だかすげ
m92custom 2 years ago 3
ごめんけど爆笑したw
でも全くブレないのは本当に凄い。
shushivick 2 years ago 2
凄い連射!
funagakoi 2 years ago
Guys~ I think that absurd action and "scream", are for the practise only, including the kiai. I don't think they will do the same thing in the real fight.
But any way. I think we always do something "looks" stupit or absurd when we are practising. What ever in IAI, Kendo, driving or playing ball games... but we know that's work...
hermanht 2 years ago
Are you kidding? A screaming banshee lunging at you like that would be terrifying!
I think the kiai are the most essential part of the Jigen Ryu fighting element... This is Jigen, isn't it?
ItsNotABaton 2 years ago
Hey, I said it "may" the practise. Some kind of worm up. There are many way to do one thing. We are not one of them, so I guest this is not good of us to judge them, because there maybe some thing we don't know the true meaning of they to do this.
But no doubt this is a little bit amusing, I also learn Kendo and Iaido before, and none of us doing this and I shall never doing this, I guest.
I just can say, I won't do it but I can't say they are wrong :P
hermanht 2 years ago
That is true, this is Jigen Ryu and you are right, the screaming is all about intimidation, psychological intimidation mostly.
MysteryManoLove 2 years ago
i think all unnecessary action is to be removed from one's technique, and even though it might be efficient to scream and swing your sword like an idiot, it's a long way from being necessary to do so if you want to defend yourself/kill your enemy
lORDELO2 2 years ago
すり足がすごい!!
上下に全くぶれないのね。
ロボットみたい。
pentatonic0425 3 years ago 5
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What in the WORLD IS THIS?!?!
TonyNhollywood 3 years ago
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fucking GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
maceioninjutsu 3 years ago
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fuck gay dikes
thatonekidownz 3 years ago
on9
milkiorange 3 years ago
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fuck the samurai the shinobi no mono whipped their asses in fedual japan (bujinkan) i wouldn't fear these retards i'll let them taste my cold steel ninjato. domo arigato***bows
maceioninjutsu 3 years ago
実戦で人を殺しまくった剣術だからね・・・。
滑稽に見えても、実績がこの技術の裏づけをしてる。
映画みたいに派手なもの見たければ中国拳法でも見てればいいよ。
YAMATOKUNI 3 years ago 49
@YAMATOKUNI もともとの示現流は、もう残ってないはずです。おそらく、文献を基にしたものか、完全なるパチモンですよ。
narutosuki 6 months ago
Yamkumaru Jigen Ryu, kick ass :)
Devastacja 3 years ago
受け方が引くときにまったく上下に動いてないのが凄い
1234Gorilla 3 years ago
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r they high and gay? are they fa-real? weirdo's
maceioninjutsu 3 years ago
The Jigen Ryu practitioner is screaming like that as a kiai and the constant nature of it is because as you can see they strike with rapidly. Also, the high pitch is to intimidate your opponent and shaken his defence. Think about it, some guy screaming like that at you while swinging a sword at you that fast and constantly pretty intimidating.
kitsune511 3 years ago 2
Only if they hit you. Going so hard against someone who can defend a few can give the impression of a child throwing a temper tantrum. 'Course that can be used as well.
JinsukeHP 3 years ago
It can be looked at that way. But keep in mind that this was the dominant style for the entire Province of Satsuma and was quite feared throughout Japan. Even today it is considered the most aggressive style of kenjutsu in existance as well as the most combat effective style left today.
kitsune511 3 years ago
Jigen ryu awesome. No wonder Satsuma Samurai were so scary.
cooluke 3 years ago
はは
ryth0305 3 years ago
que porra!!!
semaviso 3 years ago
滑稽に見えるけど実際あんなの相手にしたら怖いだろうな。
受けきれずに押し切られそう。
nikudorei 3 years ago 2
o Yes,Jigen for sure,glad that it is not Hoki-ryu!2Hoki ryu kata in Zen Nippon Kendo Renmei Iaido..:Soete tsuki and Kesa giri.but no kiai,never..the kiaithat we see in the vid is so funny..you can make a man laugh to death!maybe that is the purpose,the moment your opponent starts smiling..kirioroshi!haha
w8untill 4 years ago
Is this Hoki ryu?i thought they use that kind of kiai?
w8untill 4 years ago
It looks like Jigen ryu from Kyushu
pan788 4 years ago
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THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING EVER!!! BUT I LOVE MY MOM AND DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY CHANCES!
If you do not copy and paste this onto 10 videos your mom will die in 4 hours
xenx121 4 years ago
哈哈
paholisi 4 years ago
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I'm only 14 and i have a more manly voice than that!
youngaikidoka 4 years ago
高校時代の俺流剣法にそっくりだ。
rakutenpoinyo 4 years ago
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はいはい
wakia94 4 years ago
お前がものを知らないだけ。
粗雑な頭と精神を鍛えなおせよ。
yamatosimane 4 years ago 6
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この人たち、頭は大丈夫?
wakia94 4 years ago