ρε παιδια ειναι δυνατον να συγκρινουμε golf με vrasta??ας ειναι και πιο γρηγορο το vrasta...εγω στο τιμονι ενος golf θελω να ειμαι..γιατι προσπεραση δεν κανεις μονο με τα γκαζια(ασε που το 160 γαμαει τα περισσοτερα vrasta)και ας μη μιλησουμε για gti..
File mou xairomai pou i vw pleon aposirei to sistima turbo-compressor katalavainontas pia oti itan mia apotiximeni parenthesi stin kathola apotiximeni poreia tis ta teleutaia xronia! kapoios leei ayto......!!!
vres esy ena aytokonito...na keei meso oro 8,5 litra me 25 kila roph kai meta pes poios einai apotyxhmenos....
2010: etos pagkosmia krishs.....vw group:126 dis tsiro ek ton opoion ta 7 dis kerdos.....
oso afora gt me gtc...eimai diathesimos me p.m kai oxi me gt ....to 160ari exw....
oti kai na lene filaraki h alh8eia einai oti to astra to 1,6 einai pio dynato se ippodynamh kai pio grhgoro apo to gt kai to tsi to golf. epishs einai kai ligo elafrytero epomenws den yparxei periptwsh na vre8ei brosta golfaki 1400cc apo to astra 1,6 turbo oso kai na xtypietai o pseytokompressoras tous!
egw eida to astra na rixnei sto golfaki ena ama3i peripou sthn ekkinhsh...Ok..An eixe ta paparia k htan pio grhgoro to golf as to eftane estw k ligo...mhn akousw twra malakies oti den fainontai otan pane makrya...To 8ema peri me to ti eprepe k to ti den eprepe na anoi3ei to astra me to golf to gt h to gti den me afora ka8olou...Gia na anoi3oun shmainei oti htan konta sta idia aloga...Ta ypoloipa 8emata as ly8oun ston dromo...
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kai ego golf 6 tsi exo kai eimai apolita euxaristimenos apo oles tis apopseis...ti na eperna diladi opel astra pou einai stin idia katigoria pou exei tin xeiroteri poiotita kataskeuis toulaxiston esoterika?file mou stin opel doulevei o pateras mou kai ta vlepo kathimerina...den einai opos palia.to idio kai i vw mono downsizing kanei kai oxi downpricing...alla einai kalitera ta vw file esto kai ligo...
@nmoulias File mou pes oti thes alla oxi oti to golf 6 exei kalitero eswteriko apo to astra j ! An ena prama den mporeis na peis gia to astra j einai auto! Pros theou.....
pata golf 6 interior kai astra j interior....
einai i mera me tin nixta! To golf 6 mou thimizei kati apo corolla tou '99 !
VW wird immer gegenüber opel letzter sein. opel hat schon Autos gebaut da mussten ein paar jahrzehnte vergehen dann kahm erst VW durch einen unglücklichen zustand der in deutschland war. Die NS zeit ist und bleibt Geschichte aber mit vw lebt diese zeit irgendwie weiter. Darum Aufruf an alle kauft keinen VW. VW muss Geschichte werden.
perist22 dwse topo stin orgi!!!! eipe o mpampas sto paido tou ta vw einai ta kalitera kai antete paraeksw na deite ti ginete me to group vag kai ta mpourdelocompressorata sas asxetoi!!!!! einai kator8wma na vgaleis 170hp me compressora kai turbo... mallon apotixia einai!!!! oso gia to poio einia pio grigoro kai se olous tous tomeis kalitero den ti8ete 8ema!
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@MrBillaras21 eno ta opc pou vgazoun 192 me kompressora einai kala pou ta pernaei o kathe pikramenos?????tora gia to an ta opel einai amaxia auto to exoun deixei oi protimiseis to kostos kai oi sigkriseis..............mathe balitsa re..ante geia...........ta opel oute oi germanoi den ta empisteuontai
@nmoulias re filaraki eisai malakismenos??? sorry kiolas...! Mpaineis na mou miliseis gia amaksia kai m les oti to opc exei compressora??? plaka mou kaneis twra??? 9 stous 10 einai asxetoi apo amaksia,9 stous 10 dld pernoun oti tous plasaroun,kai auti pou plasarei kalitera einai i vw....to mono pou kserei einai marketing!FIle eisai teliws ilithios... to kostos leei an ena amaksi einai kalo???tote to type-r einai kalitero apo to gti gt einai akrivotero!telos! Re kati vlakes pou kikloforoun!
@MrBillaras21 proto ego den sou milisa etsi...sti eteria pantos lene oti exei kompressora...to an ksero apo amaxia ase na to gnorizo ego...tora to an ta opel einai amaxia simfonei me tin dikh sou erevna sxetika me tin ilithiotita...9 stous 10 pisteuoun oti den einai amaxia...nai i timi ti kathorizei an einai kalo to amaxi giati einai analogi tis poiotitas kataskeuis.kai nai to type r einai kalitero?ti epeidi vlepete mia tourmpina se kapoio amaxi nomizete oti einai kalo.edo na deis zoa...opel????
@nmoulias tespa file apo afta pou les fenete oti den exeis idea!To mono pou simfwnw einai oti to taper einai kalitero!Malon den ksereis tpt apta paixnidia tis vw!I timi einai kathara koroidistiki kai plirwneis to sima.eixa tin atixia na mpw se golf6 k den aksizei ta lefta t oute kata diania! Mesa ta ilika skata! Den kserw an exeis paratirisei kai mia 'diakritiki' propaganda pros ofelos tis vw! An kapoio periodiko kanei test kai iparxei mesa amaksi tis vw kseroume apo tin arxi ton nikiti!
@nmoulias File mou xairomai pou i vw pleon aposirei to sistima turbo-compressor katalavainontas pia oti itan mia apotiximeni parenthesi stin kathola apotiximeni poreia tis ta teleutaia xronia! Ta opel loipon (pou den ta empisteuontai oute oi vlakogermanoi) sinexizoun opws ksekinisan se antithesi me tin vw pou twra anagkazete na pei stous opadous tis... ''aposiroume ta twincharger giati itan mpourdela kai mas valane mesa''.! Elpizw na eides oti to kostos telika den deixnei ti einai kalitero!
grande.astra.c'è l'ho anche io.....pero ho rimappato la centralina...dai 90 cv..sono passato a 120.....pauraaaa!!!!.....golf.........devi esplodere!!
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@wologand No you dumbass that's because the Golf is a GT 1.4TSI with what seems to be 140Bhp while the Astra GTC Turbo has a 2.0Litr 200Bhp engine under the hood. Can't you count? Never been good in math or? Power/weight ratio. Put in the Golf VI GTI & it will at the Astra GTC Turbo, because i want it to? No, because it's the logical choice & outcome. People just buy Opels because they are cheap, i've driven VW, tried some others & drive Audi now. Want to know the difference?...
@wologand ti les ore noumero sigkrineis to golf me ena amaxi pou legete opel??gia diavase lifo na deis pio einai edo kai xronia to korifaio stin katigoria tou
Καλά είστε βλάκες? Τι βρίζεστε? Δεν σας καταλαβαίνω. Ανταλλάξτε κινητά, και βρεθείτε να τα πάτε. Οι χουλιγκανισμοί του ίντερνετ σας κάνουν πιό μάγκες, ή πιο γρήγορους???
eseis me ta golf mia zoi malakes tha eiste me tin gia 50 xronia tertragoni malakia sas pou tha einai stroggyli gia ta epomena 50.k anoikste k kanena vivlio na diavasete pos vgainoun ta aloga re vlimata. k oso gia ta punto, file edo milame gia aytokinita oxi gia paixnidia.ante geia! lol
min ksexname oti to golf einai akrws anwtero.edw vgazei kai 3.2 lt ti milate eseis me ta astrakia.mexri ekei eiste.kai epeidi milas gia katigories egw exw ena punto gt 1600.psinesai gia kamia kontra afou to opelaki sou einai toso?fere kai dilitro astra ama theleis.lol
Διαβαζοντας ολα τα ποστ, βλεπω οτι ο φιλος SpAsArXiDi ειπε τις πιο σωστες παρατηρησεις. Αγαπημενοι μου Οπελακηδες σας περιμενουμε να ανοιξουμε...GT 170 λεμε μονο. ααα και μη ξεχνιομαστε...ανταλλακτικα πλεον απο την Fiat, ετσι??? :):):)
και οτι να βαλω διαφορα κλπ.Επειδη λοιπον με προκαλει του ειπα οτι εχω το GTi και αμα του ειπα αμα θελει να ανοιξουμε να δουμε ποιανου θα ποναει ο κωλος.Απλα και ωραια πραγματα.
Μα εγω εχω τα αρχιδια και το λεω οτι το opc ειναι πιο γρηγορο,δεν ειμαι κομπλεξικος.Ειχα πει απο την αρχη οτι η πιο σωστη κοντρα ειναι να γινει με το GT.Εκεινος απανταγε ρουφα το αυγο και τετοια
Filaraki exw dei polla anoigmata me astra vs golf gt kai meta ta 100 trwei ksylo to gt,esy an exeis gti ti sygrineis me to astra to 1.6ari eisai 2.0 gia dokimase me astra 2.0 h kanena leon!!!!!!!!!!!pou einai sta kyvika sou
Εδω ρε περνας κουλαδι με το ζορι το 140....Εγω εχω το GTi οποτε θες κλεινουμε ενα ανοιγμα και θα δουμε ποιανου ο κωλος θα ποναει.Ανεβασε το βιντεο με το GT που λες παραμυθα.ΠΟΥΛΙ ΤΡΩΣ ΑΠΟ GT ανελεητο.....
tora mi me kaneis na sou steilo video me mama gt na to deis me ta matia sou kai meta na valeis to pc ston kolo sou!!ela tora an eisai vlakas ti ftaime emeis na akoume tis pipes sou.....pane na asxolitheis me kanena smart re file,o kathe malakas petaei kai tin pipa tou!!!!
@marinossantorini meu boi de merda o astra é muito mais rapido e melhor que o vw...perdest? estas chateado? compra um opel e verás a diferença...Bye bye Vw...catch me if you can...Opel forever
κανονικα η κοντρα επρεπε να γινοταν με το GT και οχι με το 140 και το GT θα ηταν σιγουρα μπροστα.Απο εκει και περα το Golf καλυτερο σαν αμαξι απο το astra και θεωρω το Golf κορυφη στην κατηγορια του ανετα.
alvanos to odigouse to opel? sigoura gt ksekinise pio mprosta, ala kai pali den pistevo na perase to golf, sta 60 metra kati ekane, ala panta se sigrisi me alvaniko mialo.
Re 64 gia pesmou ti ropi vgazei to honda sou pou den poianoun ta gt kai astra?40 kila?Xalarwse ligo atmosfaira eisai kai den poianeis pamnw apo 17 kila enw ta alla exoun 27 kila!Arakse kai mh les mlks!!!
file johnnyxp64 pou to onoma sou 8imizi pexnidomixani xalarose kai katse sta kivika sou giati pola mou fenete oti les.......ta paidia edo me ta astra kai ta golf kanoun ton xavale tous kai esi os sini8ismenos kai vlamenos petagese san koprano kai prospa8is na tous tin pis...katse ekei me tin mpaxatela tou 90 kai mi les pola..
kala min tsakonesto exo Honda Vti 1.6 pou elafros veltiomeno vgazei 170Ps kai ta exo rixei kai me GTC turbo 1.6 kai to golf GT ta skotosa kai ta 2 aneta! edo eimoun poly konta me to GTI alla sto telos efyge... antaxi ekei, alla ta 180 tou GTC kai ta 140 tou golf i autoi den xeran na ta odigisoun (pou den nomizo) i apla den mporesan na piasoun tis ropes tou Handa mou kai klinei 10etia! alla saronei.-
Japan for ever kai ase tous allous na lene oti theloun :P
san saloni mesa epeidh exw astra 1,6 115ps me kati psiloveltiwsoules k otan epsaxna gia amaxi eida to 1,6fsi kamia sxesh polu ftoxo k xwris esp episis k ta tsi exoun extra to esp an to pareis xwris esp thn pathses dn krtaei pouthena. tespa to GT sta 0-100 einai poio grhgoro apo to 1,6t logo tu oti ta 100 ta pianei me 2a enw to opel thelei 3h apo kei k pera repriz k telikes einai me to meros tou opel. Axiopista k ta 2 amaxia me mia klisi pros to opel logo 1,6 enanti 1,4 ths vw
varethika na diavazw asunartisies k vlakies p dn stekoun polu kalo to golf k h vw htan protoporos sthn kathgoria 1,4turbo anthextikos kinhthras an k polloi lene vgazei provlhmata kati p den exw akousei apla to lene k dn xerw k an oi idioi to pisteuoun pantws se mia sigkrisi me to 1,6t tha protimousa opel k tha pw k gt...
kai opoios leei oti ta astra dn strivoun as to dwsei se kana palikari pou kserei na to strivei gt epeidei dn mporoun polloi na to stripsoun dn paeina pei oti dn strivoun ta astra
re paidia egw gt exw anoiksei me to astra gsi 2ltt 16v 150 hp enos filou mou kai exw ksekoliasei rx-8(cosmo)???tespa sto thema mas.. ti tsi kai mlkies lete mwre????autos o groovey prepei na exei piei polla tsagakia apo astra kai vgazei to kompleks tou sto youtube ela se parakalw agori mou pou tha peis oti to tsi pernaei to gtc emeis dld pou zoume kai vlepoume to antitheto????
Αν αλλαχτούν και κουμπόσεις μια τουρμπίνα θα παίζεις άνετα στα 280+ αλλα δεν νομίζω ότι υπάρχει νοημα να ρίχνουμε περισσότερα χρήματα μετα απο ενα καλό full πρώτο στάδιο.
Το μοτέρ δεν θα σπάσει γιατι έχει πολύ καλα μέταλα(TSi) αλλα αμα το δουλευεις έτσι σίγουρα θα πάρεις τουρμπίνα στο χέρι σε 10.000χιλιόμετρα,επίσης η αντλια δεν του φτάνει και κάνει κοψίματα και υπάρχει πρόβλημα.
twra ti to koutazete to thema kai ta duo autokinhta einai polu kala kathena sthn kathgoria tou thelw na dw sigkrish GT 170 me 180ari kai meta vgazete sumberasmata. korifi kai ta 2 amaxia
ase mas k su re papara me ta ispanika sou....edw exoume sovaro thema....k su tou mouniou to panyguri??????telos pantwn...to astra nikise an auto rwtouses....xaxaxa
To thema einai aplo. To TSI me 140 den nikaei to GTC me ta 180. Fisika kala ta pige, esto kai an ekane kakisti ekkinisi.
Tora an einai na sigkrinoume to GTC me to TSI tha eprepe i sggrisi na ginotan me to TSI ton 170. Ekei ta pragmata tha einai poli diskola gia to GTC afou stin ekkinisi to TSI 170 einai poli pio grigoro.
Monaxa se kinisi exei elpides to GTC enanti to TSI 170. Apo stasi to GTC einai xameno.
grooveya antithetos aytoi me ta tsi to paizoun grigoroi!1o amaksaki tou pitsirika tourmpaki me 140 kai nomizoun oti gamane oti kinhte!astra me 180 den pernas pouthena!Akoma kai se strofi an aytos kopsi pou den tha exei provlima alla to lew gia kati xazous pou lene oti ta opel den strivoun pali den tha ton ftaseis giati me to pou sikwsei 28 kila ropi esy me ta 20 tha eisai polu ma polu pisw!Epomenos to 180ari eseis me ta tsi min to pianetai sta logia sas giati pote den tha to ftasete sto dromo!!
exw petuxei kati astra se fanaria pou mou to paizoun grigora kai otan ftanoume se strofi pernaw apo panw tous me to golfaki.tsi 140hp kinitiras diamanti.
spasta spasta adriko treloibizakia me alfa romeo 2.2 me ta 160 poy einai 140 se 1.5 tono amaji?exeis dikaio de mporeis na valeis mia 2.2 dipla se ena astra giati apla den tha to ftaseis pote!!!!!!!!
grafeis me megala grammata gia na deikseis oti fwnazeis h gia na prospa8hseis na me phseis oti exeis dikio?gt einai skoupidia?epeidh einai liga pou kykloforoun sto dromo h epeidh kaigetai syxna to lampaki pou anavei otan anoigoun oi portes?ase mas re file..an einai toso skoupidia vale th brera dipla apo to gtc na doume.kai mh m les gia bmw giati to exw psaksei filaraki.alla mallon den exeis mpei se kalh alfa.mexri kai h kia evgale turbato.g afto sou lew.asto na paei sto diaolo.
EOE KADETT OE OE..me turbo kai komoressores doulevete oloi e?atmosfaira?you know?mpeite se kamia brera h estw se mia 159 2.2 kai 8a sas pw egw meta golfakides kai astrakides..
grafeis me megala grammata gia na deikseis oti fwnazeis h gia na prospa8hseis na me phseis oti exeis dikio?gt einai skoupidia?epeidh einai liga pou kykloforoun sto dromo h epeidh kaigetai syxna to lampaki pou anavei otan anoigoun oi portes?ase mas re file..an einai toso skoupidia vale th brera dipla apo to gtc na doume.kai mh m les gia bmw giati to exw psaksei filaraki.alla mallon den exeis mpei se kalh alfa.mexri kai h kia evgale turbato.g afto sou lew.asto na paei sto diaolo.
o odigos tou astra viastike kai ksekinise pio grigora...alla kai pio arga na ksekinouse pali tha exane to golf..exo astra kai to ksero kala to amaksi..kati golf tsi otan ta vrisko ston dromo ta exo gia zestama mou..exo kanei kontra stimeni me rx8 kai stin triti taxitita ton eixa ena amaksi piso..rx8(192ps)...ante geia stous golfakides!!!!
oikonomiko apo thema katanalwsis nai.poiotiko den tha to elega.idia piotita exoun.elpizw na vrikane meriki tropo pou trizei i kentriki konsola :P aksiopisto nai alla exei kai ayto provlimata opws oloi oi protoemfanizomeni kinitires
Ego Yposthrizo Tsi GT Eimai Golfakias Kai Ayto To AMaksi Exo KAi Ama Thelete Na Deite KAnonikh Ekinhsh TSi DEite To Vid ME To Golf TSi 140PS 0-215kph Se 55 sec Kapos Etc Tsi Rules 1,4Ltr KAi Vgazei 140Hp Kai Einai Kai Apolyta Oikonomiko Opos Kai Poiotiko Kai Aksiopisto!!!
Enoeite oti exei ilektriko gazi to astra!Kai an to odigei enas kalos odigos einai 2 aytokinita mprosta apo to golf!Sto siggekrimeno video o odigos ekane mlk to aytokinito emeine sto topo stin 1h kai ti 2a!Epomenos...
kaneis den eipe oti to tsi einai pio grhgoro!allwste h kontra egine gia na ginei!to astra apla viasthke ligo!deite to"golf tsi 0-215"!ayth einai ekinhsh!odhgos toy tsi
An itan gt to sizitousame!Twra gia to oti to golf to eftase meta eleos...deite ligo kalitera h diafora anoigei synexos!Filika alla min eiste kolimenoi golfakides!!!
Diladi ti thelete na peite re paidia?Oti to tsi kovei to astra?LOLEN ti alo tha akousoume diladi?Exoun panw apo misw deyterolepto diafora!!!Epomenos kopste tis m@l*ki*s...
me xalari xrisi aderfe 10/100km me skliri xrisi 13-14/100km
giati den rotises kalutera protou to kleiseis?
mas exei katastrepsei to astraki!!!!
perist22 9 months ago
@perist22 daxei to peira...ola ok..!!! kaei vevea alla goustaro afantasta!! :)
raptisbas 6 months ago
KAPOIOS NA MOU PEI PARAKALW TIN KATANALOSI TOU GTC 1.6 180 HP...GT T PERNW TO SAVVATO..!! SE PROSOPIKO MUN APANTISTE OSTE NA TO DW! EYXARISTW!
raptisbas 9 months ago
ρε παιδια ειναι δυνατον να συγκρινουμε golf με vrasta??ας ειναι και πιο γρηγορο το vrasta...εγω στο τιμονι ενος golf θελω να ειμαι..γιατι προσπεραση δεν κανεις μονο με τα γκαζια(ασε που το 160 γαμαει τα περισσοτερα vrasta)και ας μη μιλησουμε για gti..
georgerelax7302 9 months ago
File mou xairomai pou i vw pleon aposirei to sistima turbo-compressor katalavainontas pia oti itan mia apotiximeni parenthesi stin kathola apotiximeni poreia tis ta teleutaia xronia! kapoios leei ayto......!!!
vres esy ena aytokonito...na keei meso oro 8,5 litra me 25 kila roph kai meta pes poios einai apotyxhmenos....
2010: etos pagkosmia krishs.....vw group:126 dis tsiro ek ton opoion ta 7 dis kerdos.....
oso afora gt me gtc...eimai diathesimos me p.m kai oxi me gt ....to 160ari exw....
alexandrosgolfioo 11 months ago
oti kai na lene filaraki h alh8eia einai oti to astra to 1,6 einai pio dynato se ippodynamh kai pio grhgoro apo to gt kai to tsi to golf. epishs einai kai ligo elafrytero epomenws den yparxei periptwsh na vre8ei brosta golfaki 1400cc apo to astra 1,6 turbo oso kai na xtypietai o pseytokompressoras tous!
pilotf18 11 months ago
egw eida to astra na rixnei sto golfaki ena ama3i peripou sthn ekkinhsh...Ok..An eixe ta paparia k htan pio grhgoro to golf as to eftane estw k ligo...mhn akousw twra malakies oti den fainontai otan pane makrya...To 8ema peri me to ti eprepe k to ti den eprepe na anoi3ei to astra me to golf to gt h to gti den me afora ka8olou...Gia na anoi3oun shmainei oti htan konta sta idia aloga...Ta ypoloipa 8emata as ly8oun ston dromo...
trtvoutas 1 year ago 4
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kai ego golf 6 tsi exo kai eimai apolita euxaristimenos apo oles tis apopseis...ti na eperna diladi opel astra pou einai stin idia katigoria pou exei tin xeiroteri poiotita kataskeuis toulaxiston esoterika?file mou stin opel doulevei o pateras mou kai ta vlepo kathimerina...den einai opos palia.to idio kai i vw mono downsizing kanei kai oxi downpricing...alla einai kalitera ta vw file esto kai ligo...
nmoulias 1 year ago
@nmoulias File mou pes oti thes alla oxi oti to golf 6 exei kalitero eswteriko apo to astra j ! An ena prama den mporeis na peis gia to astra j einai auto! Pros theou.....
pata golf 6 interior kai astra j interior....
einai i mera me tin nixta! To golf 6 mou thimizei kati apo corolla tou '99 !
MrBillaras21 1 year ago 10
VW wird immer gegenüber opel letzter sein. opel hat schon Autos gebaut da mussten ein paar jahrzehnte vergehen dann kahm erst VW durch einen unglücklichen zustand der in deutschland war. Die NS zeit ist und bleibt Geschichte aber mit vw lebt diese zeit irgendwie weiter. Darum Aufruf an alle kauft keinen VW. VW muss Geschichte werden.
281086js 1 year ago
@281086js und weil opel so gut ist brauchten die hilfe weil sie pleite sind und einfach zu wenig verkaufen? :D aso ok ;)
Heiza06 10 months ago
perist22 dwse topo stin orgi!!!! eipe o mpampas sto paido tou ta vw einai ta kalitera kai antete paraeksw na deite ti ginete me to group vag kai ta mpourdelocompressorata sas asxetoi!!!!! einai kator8wma na vgaleis 170hp me compressora kai turbo... mallon apotixia einai!!!! oso gia to poio einia pio grigoro kai se olous tous tomeis kalitero den ti8ete 8ema!
MrBillaras21 1 year ago 6
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@MrBillaras21 eno ta opc pou vgazoun 192 me kompressora einai kala pou ta pernaei o kathe pikramenos?????tora gia to an ta opel einai amaxia auto to exoun deixei oi protimiseis to kostos kai oi sigkriseis..............mathe balitsa re..ante geia...........ta opel oute oi germanoi den ta empisteuontai
nmoulias 1 year ago
@nmoulias re filaraki eisai malakismenos??? sorry kiolas...! Mpaineis na mou miliseis gia amaksia kai m les oti to opc exei compressora??? plaka mou kaneis twra??? 9 stous 10 einai asxetoi apo amaksia,9 stous 10 dld pernoun oti tous plasaroun,kai auti pou plasarei kalitera einai i vw....to mono pou kserei einai marketing!FIle eisai teliws ilithios... to kostos leei an ena amaksi einai kalo???tote to type-r einai kalitero apo to gti gt einai akrivotero!telos! Re kati vlakes pou kikloforoun!
MrBillaras21 1 year ago 12
@MrBillaras21 proto ego den sou milisa etsi...sti eteria pantos lene oti exei kompressora...to an ksero apo amaxia ase na to gnorizo ego...tora to an ta opel einai amaxia simfonei me tin dikh sou erevna sxetika me tin ilithiotita...9 stous 10 pisteuoun oti den einai amaxia...nai i timi ti kathorizei an einai kalo to amaxi giati einai analogi tis poiotitas kataskeuis.kai nai to type r einai kalitero?ti epeidi vlepete mia tourmpina se kapoio amaxi nomizete oti einai kalo.edo na deis zoa...opel????
nmoulias 1 year ago
@nmoulias tespa file apo afta pou les fenete oti den exeis idea!To mono pou simfwnw einai oti to taper einai kalitero!Malon den ksereis tpt apta paixnidia tis vw!I timi einai kathara koroidistiki kai plirwneis to sima.eixa tin atixia na mpw se golf6 k den aksizei ta lefta t oute kata diania! Mesa ta ilika skata! Den kserw an exeis paratirisei kai mia 'diakritiki' propaganda pros ofelos tis vw! An kapoio periodiko kanei test kai iparxei mesa amaksi tis vw kseroume apo tin arxi ton nikiti!
MrBillaras21 1 year ago 8
@nmoulias File mou xairomai pou i vw pleon aposirei to sistima turbo-compressor katalavainontas pia oti itan mia apotiximeni parenthesi stin kathola apotiximeni poreia tis ta teleutaia xronia! Ta opel loipon (pou den ta empisteuontai oute oi vlakogermanoi) sinexizoun opws ksekinisan se antithesi me tin vw pou twra anagkazete na pei stous opadous tis... ''aposiroume ta twincharger giati itan mpourdela kai mas valane mesa''.! Elpizw na eides oti to kostos telika den deixnei ti einai kalitero!
MrBillaras21 1 year ago
grande.astra.c'è l'ho anche io.....pero ho rimappato la centralina...dai 90 cv..sono passato a 120.....pauraaaa!!!!.....golf.........devi esplodere!!
ichonanik 1 year ago
No1 is GTC!
ADLERMANIA89 2 years ago 51
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fullLady 2 years ago
bye bye gti.
andyveccyv6 2 years ago 27
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koutsa moularia VS psofia aloga!
ta kseroume ta germanika aloga pws einai...!
----my v-tec can and will kick your turbo's ass -----
---- v-tec rules-----
teksanos 2 years ago
@teksanos: Your fucking V-Tec sucks like all the other shit that Honda built. Engine size like a coke can and absolutely no stability.
Turbos will always kick ur Hondas ass!
16VCalibra 2 years ago 27
The Golf has only 140 and the gtc 180?
I
ventodriver1337 2 years ago 29
BYE BYE VW...OPEL IS ALWAYS THE WINER
wologand 2 years ago 62
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@wologand No you dumbass that's because the Golf is a GT 1.4TSI with what seems to be 140Bhp while the Astra GTC Turbo has a 2.0Litr 200Bhp engine under the hood. Can't you count? Never been good in math or? Power/weight ratio. Put in the Golf VI GTI & it will at the Astra GTC Turbo, because i want it to? No, because it's the logical choice & outcome. People just buy Opels because they are cheap, i've driven VW, tried some others & drive Audi now. Want to know the difference?...
AgonisNewt 1 year ago
@AgonisNewt you also have 1.6 turbo with 180 hp
Stagobos 1 year ago
@wologand ti les ore noumero sigkrineis to golf me ena amaxi pou legete opel??gia diavase lifo na deis pio einai edo kai xronia to korifaio stin katigoria tou
nmoulias 1 year ago
opc exo alla den antexo na akouo gia fiat allo eleos na mhlame gia ta honda ok alla oxi gia tous koubades ta gt eleos
gghoro99 2 years ago 32
OAXAXA Honda tou 1990+ oaxaxa ayto einai sapio apo tin igrasia panto gia aposirsi ore pou thes kai kontres...
poromenos64 2 years ago 24
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Eprepe na itan kana vti 10etias kai vale na fate kala kai oi dio oi germanoi...Honda vtec
ntinoupt 2 years ago
Poia les? ayta ta vti me ta 160 aloga?? Oi dynates ekdoseis tou Golf, alla kai tou Astra gia kolatsio ta exoun.
RedGTsport170 2 years ago
K ti na leei?? Palia amaxia re t na to kaneis??
xilies fores ena gtc...
xronisxronis 2 years ago 6
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K ti na leei?? Palia amaxia re t na to kaneis??
xilies fores ena gtc...
xronisxronis 2 years ago
Καλά είστε βλάκες? Τι βρίζεστε? Δεν σας καταλαβαίνω. Ανταλλάξτε κινητά, και βρεθείτε να τα πάτε. Οι χουλιγκανισμοί του ίντερνετ σας κάνουν πιό μάγκες, ή πιο γρήγορους???
OunosAthens 2 years ago 12
eseis me ta golf mia zoi malakes tha eiste me tin gia 50 xronia tertragoni malakia sas pou tha einai stroggyli gia ta epomena 50.k anoikste k kanena vivlio na diavasete pos vgainoun ta aloga re vlimata. k oso gia ta punto, file edo milame gia aytokinita oxi gia paixnidia.ante geia! lol
UNIQUE83ful 2 years ago
hello?
UNIQUE83ful 2 years ago
min ksexname oti to golf einai akrws anwtero.edw vgazei kai 3.2 lt ti milate eseis me ta astrakia.mexri ekei eiste.kai epeidi milas gia katigories egw exw ena punto gt 1600.psinesai gia kamia kontra afou to opelaki sou einai toso?fere kai dilitro astra ama theleis.lol
labiri21 2 years ago
Διαβαζοντας ολα τα ποστ, βλεπω οτι ο φιλος SpAsArXiDi ειπε τις πιο σωστες παρατηρησεις. Αγαπημενοι μου Οπελακηδες σας περιμενουμε να ανοιξουμε...GT 170 λεμε μονο. ααα και μη ξεχνιομαστε...ανταλλακτικα πλεον απο την Fiat, ετσι??? :):):)
RedGTsport170 2 years ago
δες πιο κατω τα μυνηματα και θα καταλαβεις.Η ημιμαθεια ειναι χειροτερη απο την αμαθεια.
marinossantorini 2 years ago
και οτι να βαλω διαφορα κλπ.Επειδη λοιπον με προκαλει του ειπα οτι εχω το GTi και αμα του ειπα αμα θελει να ανοιξουμε να δουμε ποιανου θα ποναει ο κωλος.Απλα και ωραια πραγματα.
marinossantorini 2 years ago
Μα εγω εχω τα αρχιδια και το λεω οτι το opc ειναι πιο γρηγορο,δεν ειμαι κομπλεξικος.Ειχα πει απο την αρχη οτι η πιο σωστη κοντρα ειναι να γινει με το GT.Εκεινος απανταγε ρουφα το αυγο και τετοια
marinossantorini 2 years ago
Filaraki exw dei polla anoigmata me astra vs golf gt kai meta ta 100 trwei ksylo to gt,esy an exeis gti ti sygrineis me to astra to 1.6ari eisai 2.0 gia dokimase me astra 2.0 h kanena leon!!!!!!!!!!!pou einai sta kyvika sou
nikosopc 2 years ago
Εδω ρε περνας κουλαδι με το ζορι το 140....Εγω εχω το GTi οποτε θες κλεινουμε ενα ανοιγμα και θα δουμε ποιανου ο κωλος θα ποναει.Ανεβασε το βιντεο με το GT που λες παραμυθα.ΠΟΥΛΙ ΤΡΩΣ ΑΠΟ GT ανελεητο.....
marinossantorini 2 years ago
Παντου σε ρεαβει το GT και ειναι και 1400cc...........0-100 και στα 0-160 σε γαζωνει.Αντε γεια εσυ ασχετε παραμυθα.
marinossantorini 2 years ago
tora mi me kaneis na sou steilo video me mama gt na to deis me ta matia sou kai meta na valeis to pc ston kolo sou!!ela tora an eisai vlakas ti ftaime emeis na akoume tis pipes sou.....pane na asxolitheis me kanena smart re file,o kathe malakas petaei kai tin pipa tou!!!!
perist22 2 years ago 7
@marinossantorini meu boi de merda o astra é muito mais rapido e melhor que o vw...perdest? estas chateado? compra um opel e verás a diferença...Bye bye Vw...catch me if you can...Opel forever
wologand 1 year ago
κανονικα η κοντρα επρεπε να γινοταν με το GT και οχι με το 140 και το GT θα ηταν σιγουρα μπροστα.Απο εκει και περα το Golf καλυτερο σαν αμαξι απο το astra και θεωρω το Golf κορυφη στην κατηγορια του ανετα.
marinossantorini 2 years ago
mpouli royfa to avgoylaki soy....eidame kai tora poy to golf einai 175 ps ti psolies troei apo ta astrakia.....ante geia....re ante geia......
perist22 2 years ago 3
astra rulez
wojas25 2 years ago 2
jeder poppel fährt nen opel
anderti222 3 years ago
alvanos to odigouse to opel? sigoura gt ksekinise pio mprosta, ala kai pali den pistevo na perase to golf, sta 60 metra kati ekane, ala panta se sigrisi me alvaniko mialo.
amaruz 3 years ago
HAHAHA shit Golf!!!!
and87gamer 3 years ago
Re 64 gia pesmou ti ropi vgazei to honda sou pou den poianoun ta gt kai astra?40 kila?Xalarwse ligo atmosfaira eisai kai den poianeis pamnw apo 17 kila enw ta alla exoun 27 kila!Arakse kai mh les mlks!!!
poromenos64 3 years ago
file johnnyxp64 pou to onoma sou 8imizi pexnidomixani xalarose kai katse sta kivika sou giati pola mou fenete oti les.......ta paidia edo me ta astra kai ta golf kanoun ton xavale tous kai esi os sini8ismenos kai vlamenos petagese san koprano kai prospa8is na tous tin pis...katse ekei me tin mpaxatela tou 90 kai mi les pola..
stathissti 3 years ago 2
kala min tsakonesto exo Honda Vti 1.6 pou elafros veltiomeno vgazei 170Ps kai ta exo rixei kai me GTC turbo 1.6 kai to golf GT ta skotosa kai ta 2 aneta! edo eimoun poly konta me to GTI alla sto telos efyge... antaxi ekei, alla ta 180 tou GTC kai ta 140 tou golf i autoi den xeran na ta odigisoun (pou den nomizo) i apla den mporesan na piasoun tis ropes tou Handa mou kai klinei 10etia! alla saronei.-
Japan for ever kai ase tous allous na lene oti theloun :P
johnnyxp64 3 years ago
140 PS Golf vs 180 PS Astra
Not fair.
For this the Astra was slow.
Naflord 3 years ago
san saloni mesa epeidh exw astra 1,6 115ps me kati psiloveltiwsoules k otan epsaxna gia amaxi eida to 1,6fsi kamia sxesh polu ftoxo k xwris esp episis k ta tsi exoun extra to esp an to pareis xwris esp thn pathses dn krtaei pouthena. tespa to GT sta 0-100 einai poio grhgoro apo to 1,6t logo tu oti ta 100 ta pianei me 2a enw to opel thelei 3h apo kei k pera repriz k telikes einai me to meros tou opel. Axiopista k ta 2 amaxia me mia klisi pros to opel logo 1,6 enanti 1,4 ths vw
xarisvectragts2200 3 years ago
varethika na diavazw asunartisies k vlakies p dn stekoun polu kalo to golf k h vw htan protoporos sthn kathgoria 1,4turbo anthextikos kinhthras an k polloi lene vgazei provlhmata kati p den exw akousei apla to lene k dn xerw k an oi idioi to pisteuoun pantws se mia sigkrisi me to 1,6t tha protimousa opel k tha pw k gt...
xarisvectragts2200 3 years ago
Opel is Opel!No doubt!
Syber032 3 years ago
einai pisw to tsi apo to gtc kamia sxesi ase pou vgazei kai ena swro provlima to tsi
Vxr0pC 3 years ago
astra win;]
bboymati 3 years ago
kai opoios leei oti ta astra dn strivoun as to dwsei se kana palikari pou kserei na to strivei gt epeidei dn mporoun polloi na to stripsoun dn paeina pei oti dn strivoun ta astra
germanrullz 3 years ago
re paidia egw gt exw anoiksei me to astra gsi 2ltt 16v 150 hp enos filou mou kai exw ksekoliasei rx-8(cosmo)???tespa sto thema mas.. ti tsi kai mlkies lete mwre????autos o groovey prepei na exei piei polla tsagakia apo astra kai vgazei to kompleks tou sto youtube ela se parakalw agori mou pou tha peis oti to tsi pernaei to gtc emeis dld pou zoume kai vlepoume to antitheto????
germanrullz 3 years ago
Διαβάστε απο κάτω προς τα πάνε γιατι δεν χόραγαν όλα αυτα σε ένα post. ;)
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
Αν αλλαχτούν και κουμπόσεις μια τουρμπίνα θα παίζεις άνετα στα 280+ αλλα δεν νομίζω ότι υπάρχει νοημα να ρίχνουμε περισσότερα χρήματα μετα απο ενα καλό full πρώτο στάδιο.
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
Απο την άλλη ο 1.6Τ δεν έχει πρόβλημα με αντλια μπεκ ,του φτάνουν για 300hp αλλα έχει μάπα μπίελες και πιστόνια.
Γι αυτό πρέπει να προσέχουν πολύ την ροπή για να μην κουράζοντε οι μπιέλες.
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
TSi με άλλη τουρμπίνα και αντλια χωρίς να ανοίξεις μοτέρ φτάνει 260 άφοβα!
Όποιος θέλει ένα full πρώτο στάδιο θα με κανονικές πιέσης θα υπολογίζει στα 220hp.
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
Το μοτέρ δεν θα σπάσει γιατι έχει πολύ καλα μέταλα(TSi) αλλα αμα το δουλευεις έτσι σίγουρα θα πάρεις τουρμπίνα στο χέρι σε 10.000χιλιόμετρα,επίσης η αντλια δεν του φτάνει και κάνει κοψίματα και υπάρχει πρόβλημα.
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
Ενα Astra μπορεί να φτάσει 240 με 1.5 over ενδιάμεσα 1.3 και κόφτη 1 bar.
Ενα TSi-GT για να φτάσει 240 πρέπει να κάνει 1.9 over 1.5 στις 5.000 στροφές και κόφτη 1.3
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
Απο θέμα βελτίωση τώρα.
Ενα Astra GTC 1.6 με πρόγραμμα εξάτμιση i/c φτάνει 240hp και 310ΝΜ άφοβα αρκεί να προσέξει ο προγραμματιστής την ροπή.
Και το λέω αυτό γιατι ποιό ευκολα σπάει ένα 1.6 παρά το 1.4TSi.
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
Μερικοί μιλάνε για την βελτίωση των 2 αυτοκινήτων και δν έχουν ιδέα τι λένε!
Ας τα πάρουμε απο την αρχή.
Golf TSi vs Astra GTC
σίγουρα μπροστά το Astra
Golf GT VS Astra GTC
είναι θέμα οδηγού εκει.Μέχρι τα 160 πάντως το Golf είναι μπροστά μετα το Astra μαζευει.
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
twra ti to koutazete to thema kai ta duo autokinhta einai polu kala kathena sthn kathgoria tou thelw na dw sigkrish GT 170 me 180ari kai meta vgazete sumberasmata. korifi kai ta 2 amaxia
xarisvectragts2200 3 years ago
ase mas k su re papara me ta ispanika sou....edw exoume sovaro thema....k su tou mouniou to panyguri??????telos pantwn...to astra nikise an auto rwtouses....xaxaxa
andrikos23kast 3 years ago 2
ma come si fa? golf contro astra???la vw contro opel gm??? oro e merda...
giambabest 3 years ago
oxi mereda, tsagaki to leme sto ellada
markk8432 3 years ago
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alexisrodos 3 years ago
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einai piesmeno poli to eipe eksalou kai o bob o mastoras poios ta leei re paidia ayta?
geoleo3978 3 years ago
To thema einai aplo. To TSI me 140 den nikaei to GTC me ta 180. Fisika kala ta pige, esto kai an ekane kakisti ekkinisi.
Tora an einai na sigkrinoume to GTC me to TSI tha eprepe i sggrisi na ginotan me to TSI ton 170. Ekei ta pragmata tha einai poli diskola gia to GTC afou stin ekkinisi to TSI 170 einai poli pio grigoro.
Monaxa se kinisi exei elpides to GTC enanti to TSI 170. Apo stasi to GTC einai xameno.
frixos80 3 years ago
astra won
perist22 3 years ago 8
who won??:D
smenu1716 3 years ago
grooveya prepei na exeis faei poles pikres apo astra...
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
oso gia to diamanti...Gamata ta ladia na min ksexnas mazi sou prin to taksidi!
poromenos64 3 years ago
grooveya antithetos aytoi me ta tsi to paizoun grigoroi!1o amaksaki tou pitsirika tourmpaki me 140 kai nomizoun oti gamane oti kinhte!astra me 180 den pernas pouthena!Akoma kai se strofi an aytos kopsi pou den tha exei provlima alla to lew gia kati xazous pou lene oti ta opel den strivoun pali den tha ton ftaseis giati me to pou sikwsei 28 kila ropi esy me ta 20 tha eisai polu ma polu pisw!Epomenos to 180ari eseis me ta tsi min to pianetai sta logia sas giati pote den tha to ftasete sto dromo!!
poromenos64 3 years ago 3
exw petuxei kati astra se fanaria pou mou to paizoun grigora kai otan ftanoume se strofi pernaw apo panw tous me to golfaki.tsi 140hp kinitiras diamanti.
grooveya 3 years ago
spasta spasta adriko treloibizakia me alfa romeo 2.2 me ta 160 poy einai 140 se 1.5 tono amaji?exeis dikaio de mporeis na valeis mia 2.2 dipla se ena astra giati apla den tha to ftaseis pote!!!!!!!!
nikosopc 3 years ago
ti sxesei exoun autes oi m.....es me to video poios kserei...tespa kwsta pame na tous valoume agio pavlo re file na to voulwsoun oloi....
ante mhn ta spasw twra!!!!
andrikos23kast 3 years ago
ti sxesei exoun twra auta pou lene me to video poios kserei...tespa kwsta pame na tous valoume agio pavlo na to boulwsoun re file.....
andrikos23kast 3 years ago
ti sxesei exoun twra auta me to video enas theos kserei....kwsta pame na tous valoume agio pavlo na to boulwsoun re file......
andrikos23kast 3 years ago
grafeis me megala grammata gia na deikseis oti fwnazeis h gia na prospa8hseis na me phseis oti exeis dikio?gt einai skoupidia?epeidh einai liga pou kykloforoun sto dromo h epeidh kaigetai syxna to lampaki pou anavei otan anoigoun oi portes?ase mas re file..an einai toso skoupidia vale th brera dipla apo to gtc na doume.kai mh m les gia bmw giati to exw psaksei filaraki.alla mallon den exeis mpei se kalh alfa.mexri kai h kia evgale turbato.g afto sou lew.asto na paei sto diaolo.
SoList17 3 years ago
EOE KADETT OE OE..me turbo kai komoressores doulevete oloi e?atmosfaira?you know?mpeite se kamia brera h estw se mia 159 2.2 kai 8a sas pw egw meta golfakides kai astrakides..
SoList17 3 years ago
ASE RE FILE ME TA SKOUPIDIA TA ITALIKA!aN EINAI NA MILISOUME GIA ATMOSFAIRA MONO BMW ola ta alla einai skoupidia...
poromenos64 3 years ago
grafeis me megala grammata gia na deikseis oti fwnazeis h gia na prospa8hseis na me phseis oti exeis dikio?gt einai skoupidia?epeidh einai liga pou kykloforoun sto dromo h epeidh kaigetai syxna to lampaki pou anavei otan anoigoun oi portes?ase mas re file..an einai toso skoupidia vale th brera dipla apo to gtc na doume.kai mh m les gia bmw giati to exw psaksei filaraki.alla mallon den exeis mpei se kalh alfa.mexri kai h kia evgale turbato.g afto sou lew.asto na paei sto diaolo.
SoList17 3 years ago
ni el astra es el turbo ni el golf el TSi asin ke.....¬¬
chakal999 3 years ago
o odigos tou astra viastike kai ksekinise pio grigora...alla kai pio arga na ksekinouse pali tha exane to golf..exo astra kai to ksero kala to amaksi..kati golf tsi otan ta vrisko ston dromo ta exo gia zestama mou..exo kanei kontra stimeni me rx8 kai stin triti taxitita ton eixa ena amaksi piso..rx8(192ps)...ante geia stous golfakides!!!!
alexisrodos 3 years ago
pesta re file!!!!!tha mas tin poun tora kai oi malakes oi golfakides....!!!!
perist22 3 years ago
ase re file pou gamises kai rx8..
mounoklabarxido 3 years ago
fere ena rx8,oxi to aplo gia to cosmo milame kai ta leme.......an den kserete ti exei to amaksi toy alloy min to paizetai eksipnoi.....
perist22 3 years ago
akrivws ksereis esu ti exw kanei sto rx8?
mounoklabarxido 3 years ago
those look soo slow compared to the british ones!! the golf in the uk has 200ps and the astra 240ps as standard.
markyd984 3 years ago
so what?
fuck british!!!!!!!!
greek power you crazy fucked!!!!!
perist22 3 years ago
"Oikonomiko Opos Kai Poiotiko Kai Aksiopisto!!!"
oikonomiko apo thema katanalwsis nai.poiotiko den tha to elega.idia piotita exoun.elpizw na vrikane meriki tropo pou trizei i kentriki konsola :P aksiopisto nai alla exei kai ayto provlimata opws oloi oi protoemfanizomeni kinitires
SpAsArXiDi 3 years ago
Ego Yposthrizo Tsi GT Eimai Golfakias Kai Ayto To AMaksi Exo KAi Ama Thelete Na Deite KAnonikh Ekinhsh TSi DEite To Vid ME To Golf TSi 140PS 0-215kph Se 55 sec Kapos Etc Tsi Rules 1,4Ltr KAi Vgazei 140Hp Kai Einai Kai Apolyta Oikonomiko Opos Kai Poiotiko Kai Aksiopisto!!!
kaulogiatros 3 years ago
Enoeite oti exei ilektriko gazi to astra!Kai an to odigei enas kalos odigos einai 2 aytokinita mprosta apo to golf!Sto siggekrimeno video o odigos ekane mlk to aytokinito emeine sto topo stin 1h kai ti 2a!Epomenos...
poromenos64 3 years ago
to astra exei ilektiko gazi kai simplekti ?
giati to golf den mporeis na to ksekiniseis me terma to gazi..
mikailparidio 3 years ago
o odigos tou astra einai gia ton poutso to kserw kala a re ksaderfe olo malakeies eisai pote tha valeis myalo
ALHTHS22 3 years ago
golf 140 & 170 ???
07alfonso007 3 years ago
140, no lleva ni el escape ni la parrilla GT.
TDIvsGTI 3 years ago
me ena dsg,hsastan mazi.
MacGyver80ssssss 3 years ago
stis apokries o odigos tou tsi ntithike petalouditsa.......ti na perimeneis meta .....
perist22 3 years ago
kaneis den eipe oti to tsi einai pio grhgoro!allwste h kontra egine gia na ginei!to astra apla viasthke ligo!deite to"golf tsi 0-215"!ayth einai ekinhsh!odhgos toy tsi
jnemki 3 years ago 2
paidia stin triti to astra itan 2 amaksia mprosta....apla to video den leei kai polla!!!!odigos tou astra!
perist22 3 years ago
An itan gt to sizitousame!Twra gia to oti to golf to eftase meta eleos...deite ligo kalitera h diafora anoigei synexos!Filika alla min eiste kolimenoi golfakides!!!
poromenos64 4 years ago 2
Diladi ti thelete na peite re paidia?Oti to tsi kovei to astra?LOLEN ti alo tha akousoume diladi?Exoun panw apo misw deyterolepto diafora!!!Epomenos kopste tis m@l*ki*s...
poromenos64 4 years ago
to golf gia ta alogatou paei kala efyge ligo meta to astra kai sxedon to eftase!!ti kanei to varos!are driver tsi!
jimmythess1988 4 years ago
stimeno den einai...alla to astra viasthke!(o odhgos toy tsi...)
jnemki 4 years ago
stimeno einai!!!!!!!!!!!
ALHTHS22 4 years ago
astra started early
sero26 4 years ago
el golf saca 20cv de mas.
bowieGT 4 years ago
opel astra gtc 1.6 turbo 180ps
vw golf 1.4 tsi 140 ps
perist22 4 years ago
Que es el gtc turbo de 170cv o el de 200cv??
z20ler 4 years ago