It took me 8 years of learning English to be able to communicate in it. In fact, I had to go for a 2-year language immersion in the USA, because the other 8 years were of frustrating attempts. It took me another 10 years to be able to read English Literature and understand it thoroughly.
It took me 1 month of learning Esperanto to be able to read it, 2 more months to be able to understand it when listening it, and 2 more months to speak it fluidly. And I did it alone in home with no immersion.
@moad1000 Yes, knowing a Romance Language like my native language ,Spanish, helps a lot for learning Esperanto, even if Spanish after Romanian was the last of the Romances considered by Zamenhof.
French contributed more than any to Esperanto vocabulary. But, I think Italian ends up being the closest. Esperanto phonetics is similar to the Mediterranean ones, like the Italian or the Spaniard (Or Greek!). While Esperanto Grammar is not as different from Romance Grammars as some people say.
English is the language. The same way French was the language in the XIX century, or Latin throughout middle Ages.
I've had friends from all nationalities since I was a kid. Can you guess in which language do we speak? No not in Espernto. Do you know how many people I've met in my life that cold speak Esperanto? None. Zero.
So I think Esperanto was a wishful thinking idea. I doubt it would ever have worked. In fact If it hasn't worked it he past, now I would say it's absolutely useless.
Only 10% of the world population can comunicate in English. Of that 10%, 5% do not master English and feels inferior, the other 5% think of itself as a superior kind of people who must and should master the world.
Esperanto has not reach the critical mass to be the International Language, that is true.But, English is not the one; for a non native it is too difficult to learn it,and almost impossible to master it. English pronunciation and spelling are terrible.
Problem is Internet killed Esperanto in the fact that all programming and most of the web is tied to English as the main language even in China, programmers have no choice but to learn at least some English.
So English has de facto became the main language of the world since Internet is all about english.
But some african or other extremely poor non educated countries can adopt esperanto as the main language or something.
@KypHeM I suppose you think so because most of the words derive from those languages however, if you look closer at Spanish, for example, has some strange sounds like 'LL' or 'C'
Being a native speaker of Spanish, I must say that Esperanto sounds like Italian when an Italian speaks in it, but sounds like English when a british speaks it, and sounds like Polish when spoken in Poland. The brazilians speaks the most harmonious Espo.
@powerdriller10 Esperanto souds definatly Italian. Any one can see that. And there is nothing wrong with that . Italian has a lovely sound and it's the language that most resembles Latin, the most influential matrix in european languages. I'm not talian and I don't speak italian but Esperanto sounds a LOT like Italian as anyone can hear. Certainly everyone carries there own mother tongue accent when speaking a 2nd language but Esperanto will never sound like English or Polish. It sounds ITALIAN.
An Italian guy listening a Polish guy who speaks Esperanto will never say that the Polish is speaking sounding like Italian. Just listen to the video ESPERANTO-BLOGO 3: and tell me how the girl in the video sounds when she speaks Esperanto. Hahahah ! I´ll give you some hints: The girl is a self-learning polyglot,and her language acquisition is rather peculiar and not formal, there is not trace of her native language in her Esperanto pronunciation. She speaks in a way unique.
@powerdriller10 Thanks for the video recommendation, she's lovely. And the way she speaks is very charming. And it doesn't quite sound like anything else. I didn't know esperanto could sound so beautiful. I which her videos had subtitles. As to your question, I still think the sound of it resembles more the sound of Italian then any other language; aparently you don't think so. Anyway, thanks.
No! Not the usual anglophone cliché about German being a guttural language. The French 'r' is just as guttural but no-one calls French a guttural language. I suspect it comes from those old war movies when it was nothing but 'Hände hoch!' in as mean a voice as possible.
Dankon Paul! Mi ege aprezas, ke vi aŭdacas paroli (angle kaj en BBC!) pri "imperiismo de la angla". Kiam mi (kies gepatra lingvo estas la itala) faras tion en nia terure kaj neflikeble angle-sklavita lando (Israelo), ĉiufoje mi riskas mian reputacion de "sanmensulo".
Mi bonege ekspluatos viajn aŭtoritatajn vortojn en miaj poresperantaj prelegoj. Gian Piero Savio
english is the new latin
mawehe63 1 month ago
@mawehe63 Yeah, the "new Latin", a difficult language owned by an empire in decadence and condemned to disapear as "more or less" lingua franca.
aleksesco 1 month ago
@aleksesco exactly
mawehe63 1 month ago
Mi aŭskultas 'Radio Cxina Internacia' cxiutage :)
Luxembourglover 2 months ago
It took me 8 years of learning English to be able to communicate in it. In fact, I had to go for a 2-year language immersion in the USA, because the other 8 years were of frustrating attempts. It took me another 10 years to be able to read English Literature and understand it thoroughly.
It took me 1 month of learning Esperanto to be able to read it, 2 more months to be able to understand it when listening it, and 2 more months to speak it fluidly. And I did it alone in home with no immersion.
powerdriller10 6 months ago 10
@powerdriller10 I would like to know from you experience does you first language affect or give you the advantage for learning the language?
moad1000 1 week ago
@moad1000 Yes, knowing a Romance Language like my native language ,Spanish, helps a lot for learning Esperanto, even if Spanish after Romanian was the last of the Romances considered by Zamenhof.
French contributed more than any to Esperanto vocabulary. But, I think Italian ends up being the closest. Esperanto phonetics is similar to the Mediterranean ones, like the Italian or the Spaniard (Or Greek!). While Esperanto Grammar is not as different from Romance Grammars as some people say.
powerdriller10 6 days ago
English is the language. The same way French was the language in the XIX century, or Latin throughout middle Ages.
I've had friends from all nationalities since I was a kid. Can you guess in which language do we speak? No not in Espernto. Do you know how many people I've met in my life that cold speak Esperanto? None. Zero.
So I think Esperanto was a wishful thinking idea. I doubt it would ever have worked. In fact If it hasn't worked it he past, now I would say it's absolutely useless.
jupiterswan1 6 months ago
@jupiterswan1
Only 10% of the world population can comunicate in English. Of that 10%, 5% do not master English and feels inferior, the other 5% think of itself as a superior kind of people who must and should master the world.
Esperanto has not reach the critical mass to be the International Language, that is true.But, English is not the one; for a non native it is too difficult to learn it,and almost impossible to master it. English pronunciation and spelling are terrible.
powerdriller10 6 months ago
@powerdriller10 I agree with you on every point. And in a perfect world we would be exchanging these messages in Esperanto.
jupiterswan1 5 months ago 2
@jupiterswan1
Vi ne pravas, char en chi tiu ne perfekta mondo ni ial ajn povas intershangxi mesagxojn Esperante.
powerdriller10 5 months ago
@jupiterswan1
What do you mean, "hasn't worked"?
WilhelmDrake 4 months ago
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jupiterswan1 6 months ago
Problem is Internet killed Esperanto in the fact that all programming and most of the web is tied to English as the main language even in China, programmers have no choice but to learn at least some English.
So English has de facto became the main language of the world since Internet is all about english.
But some african or other extremely poor non educated countries can adopt esperanto as the main language or something.
KypHeM 7 months ago
And since when is Chinese an agglutanitive language?
And is the grammar of Esperanto really based on eastern European languages?
espukr 1 year ago
@espukr Is far as I know only the sounds in Esperanto are Slavic. The grammar is rather Westernish.
ppk89 7 months ago
@ppk89 Yes, I know. Mine was a rhetorical question.
espukr 7 months ago
@ppk89 being a slav myself I must say it does NOT sound like slavic at all more like spanish or italian.
KypHeM 7 months ago
@KypHeM I suppose you think so because most of the words derive from those languages however, if you look closer at Spanish, for example, has some strange sounds like 'LL' or 'C'
ppk89 7 months ago
@KypHeM
Being a native speaker of Spanish, I must say that Esperanto sounds like Italian when an Italian speaks in it, but sounds like English when a british speaks it, and sounds like Polish when spoken in Poland. The brazilians speaks the most harmonious Espo.
powerdriller10 6 months ago
@powerdriller10 Esperanto souds definatly Italian. Any one can see that. And there is nothing wrong with that . Italian has a lovely sound and it's the language that most resembles Latin, the most influential matrix in european languages. I'm not talian and I don't speak italian but Esperanto sounds a LOT like Italian as anyone can hear. Certainly everyone carries there own mother tongue accent when speaking a 2nd language but Esperanto will never sound like English or Polish. It sounds ITALIAN.
jupiterswan1 6 months ago
@jupiterswan1
An Italian guy listening a Polish guy who speaks Esperanto will never say that the Polish is speaking sounding like Italian. Just listen to the video ESPERANTO-BLOGO 3: and tell me how the girl in the video sounds when she speaks Esperanto. Hahahah ! I´ll give you some hints: The girl is a self-learning polyglot,and her language acquisition is rather peculiar and not formal, there is not trace of her native language in her Esperanto pronunciation. She speaks in a way unique.
powerdriller10 6 months ago
@powerdriller10 Thanks for the video recommendation, she's lovely. And the way she speaks is very charming. And it doesn't quite sound like anything else. I didn't know esperanto could sound so beautiful. I which her videos had subtitles. As to your question, I still think the sound of it resembles more the sound of Italian then any other language; aparently you don't think so. Anyway, thanks.
jupiterswan1 5 months ago
No! Not the usual anglophone cliché about German being a guttural language. The French 'r' is just as guttural but no-one calls French a guttural language. I suspect it comes from those old war movies when it was nothing but 'Hände hoch!' in as mean a voice as possible.
espukr 1 year ago
Estis granda laboro kunmeti tiel grandan kaj bonan materialon. Dankon.
Amike Ivano
bujdosxo 1 year ago
Parece mentira que todavía haya gente que no conozca el esperanto.
ansardom 1 year ago
QUITE AN INTERESTING STORY
alkantre 1 year ago
Bona prezento, gratulon!
sezonoj 1 year ago
Bonege!
esperantomaceio 1 year ago
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esperantomaceio 1 year ago
Dankon Paul! Mi ege aprezas, ke vi aŭdacas paroli (angle kaj en BBC!) pri "imperiismo de la angla". Kiam mi (kies gepatra lingvo estas la itala) faras tion en nia terure kaj neflikeble angle-sklavita lando (Israelo), ĉiufoje mi riskas mian reputacion de "sanmensulo".
Mi bonege ekspluatos viajn aŭtoritatajn vortojn en miaj poresperantaj prelegoj. Gian Piero Savio
wwweee2000 1 year ago
Tre shateble parolo (programo). Tio sendube helpos nin plibonigi la publikan imagon pri E-o. Dankon, D-ro Gubbins.
MyCoach101 1 year ago
Ne nur bonega dramisto, ankau bona prezentisto. Doron
bravulo 1 year ago
Paul, ĉu mi lastatempe diris al vi kiom multe mi amas vin? Do, jen! =)
AMIKEMA 1 year ago
Tre koncisa kaj trafa parolo Paul! Iam mi povos paroli kiel vi!
gbmaizol 1 year ago
Saluton Paul,
Tre bona! Excellent Paul.
neilnachum1 1 year ago