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  • well said mate you did the right thing i tip my hat off to you

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  • All these women are trying to do is make you think about what you are doing. Does it seem right, or are you trying to justify it in your head? Give the child a chance to live because not everyone who has deformities is miserable. Search for this video on Youtube and watch it called "No Arms No Legs No Worries". Even with no arms or legs, you can still be thankful to be alive.

  • @guitarnut06 If you watched the original video you would realize that the child was going to die no matter what. There was definite proof.

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  • @guitarnut06 WERE you watching the video? the man states several times that the baby is already dead. are you saying this woman should carry a dead creature inside of her for 5 more months? they are only removing it because it could harm the mother.

  • @SuperVancouverBC You are incorrect. If you listen at 0:26, you clearly hear him state that his wife has "a nearly dead baby inside her". If the child was already dead, then yes, it should be removed so it will not harm the mother, like you said; however, that is no longer an abortion since the baby is no longer alive.

  • @SuperVancouverBC Ummm the man said that the baby was nearly dead... and he didn't know if the baby would make it or not so they killed it off... good choice. Always the smart thing to do... wonder if we should start doing that to stage four cancer patients since most of them don't make it anyway

  • @hollykharrison he didnt know if the baby would make it? of course the baby wouldnt make it!. it didnt have a bladder or kidneys, so it wouldnt have survived anyways

  • @SuperVancouverBC Hmmm, I don't remember him saying that, but there are such things called donors and dialysis... certainly not a good start for a baby but not impossible for life.

  • @hollykharrison dialysis for a baby? the baby would be hooked up to the machine for the rest of her life, and in lots of pain. and what about a bladder? there is not that many bladders avaliable for babies.

  • @hollykharrison The fetus had no renal system,kidneys,bladder or anus.

  • Damn this guy owned.

  • thats right u tell them bc them bitches dont even know whats going on i would have punched them in the face

  • Funny how everyone who is for abortion had already been born.

  • @LordWellington15 How do you know?

  • Good on this guy...

  • god damn religion makes people so freaking dumb and close minded :(

    what a bunch of dumb cunts..pushing their ignorant religous morals on others...MIND UR OWN BUSINESS,WORRY ABOUT YOURSELVES AND NOT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING OR PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET HIT BY A BUS

  • Those protesters are holding up pictures of fetus pieces. If they regard the fetus as something that important, they should show some damn respect to it and not use those pictures.

  • In case you are wondering, YES I AM ON THE PROTESTOR'S SIDE!! Abortion is sickening and murderous. And NO, the anti-abortion protesters did NOT get "owned". That guy will when the time comes, though.

  • @28804ecorrell you throw your insane comments out here for millions to see and dont expect people to call you on your statements? and then when they do,you email me and say who do i think i am and for me to f' off..you,like the video says,are the lowest common denominator..the weakest link..goodbye!

  • @28804ecorrell Oh sure, abortion is bad! I hope your child will have a mortal deformity because it looks like you will enjoy it.

  • That guy is yelling at the wrong people. If I were there, I would deck that guy in the face, probably go to jail, and not feel guilty or sorry ONE BIT because he deserved it and had it coming! Dealing with protestors that way is not the right choice. That guy needs to shut his face! That guy is the LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR, NOT the protesters!

  • @28804ecorrell your whats wrong with this country

  • @28804ecorrell 'Deck him in the face' aww you superstitious people are so lovely! Why don't christians hold up signs with the Interesting stuff from the bible,like when god orders people to bake bread from human poo in Ezekial?

  • That guy is soooo smart! Yelling at people who are holding up a picture of Jesus. Yeahh...he's reeeaaaallll smart....NOT!!!! When people are at abortion places protesting, they are not trying to make women feel bad, they are trying to prevent women from making a mistake. They are trying to prevent women from killing their own child.

  • @28804ecorrell 'holding a picture of Jesus' you mean holding up a picture of a westernized version of what white christians would like Jesus to look like, who was a jew from Palestine, and obviously not a blue eyed white person. 'Picture of Jesus' you superstitious people are Hilarious! 'She had a photo of Jesus..So anything she screams at passerbys is ok,since she had a photo of Jesus!' ..

  • Love this vid!!

  • This dude is teh baus...

    No seriously though You have my respect sir, wish those women there were ran over honestly..

  • My God, I seriously want to bitch slap those women! Good for him for taking a stand!

  • these women are doing it so wrong

  • Dude if you don't fking care what they have to say then just walk away and pretend they are not there stop yelling at people so you can put the video up on youtube the next day to show people how you just owned some lady so you can feel happy about yourself because, damn you are the low life lol

  • @tac0paco

    He cares that his wife was yelled at by a pair of ignorant cunts. You and those fanatic bitches are the fucking lowlifes here.

  • @loner1878 the ignorant cuts did not know his wife's condition

  • @alanbstard4

    Therefore, that's why they are IGNORANT cunts.

  • @loner1878 Wow lol Im not fanatic btw, i just don't understand why he put it on youtube so he could try to humiliate people knowing there was people like you on the internet whom have nothing to do but check other peoples comments to see if he can "own" them so he can get some thumbs up because his wife wouldn't lend a hand, let a lone a thumb, damn you are a loner lol

  • @tac0paco

    Its pretty obvious IMO. He put it on the internet so everyone could see what these fanatics do to women trying to get a legal procedure done. Its called standing up for what's right, no different than recording police abuse on camera. I'm sure he knew there would be plenty of people like you trolling on his video and trying to justify the behavior as well.

    His wife was in SURGERY, genius. How was she supposed to "lend a hand?"

    Moron.

  • @tac0paco

    LOL, so if I had the word "ninja" somewhere in my username you would believe I was really a ninja? Wow, I hope you did better at other subjects in school that didn't require critical thinking skills. Anyways, this is probably too advanced for you, but my username is a literary reference to a character (set in the year 1878), one of his character traits was being a loner.

    What's wrong with being a loner anyway? Can't handle being by yourself for 5 minutes? Aww, you poor baby.

  • the bottom line, if you're against abortion you need to be FOR the use and distrubution of birth control/contraceptives. you can't be against both. the problem i have with people shown in the video is that they live in some alternate reality where they believe teaching abstinence is the only way and completely ignoring evidence that people WILL have sex with or without proper protection. we need to protect and educate rather than stand on a corner and reprimand

  • I am against abortion but if it is necessary to get it then go ahead but you shouldn't get an abortion just because you dont want a baby you should know the consequences of having sex and if you mess up you should have too live with it but I am kind of mixed if a women gets raped and gets impregnated from it

  • @bunghole211

    So you think children are "consequences." How kind of you.

  • @loner1878 in a way yeah I really dont like kids all that much

  • @bunghole211 exactly

  • most abortions are unnecessary. i don't blame the protesters who said medical matters were different. The guy complaining has no right to

  • @alanbstard4

    No right to complain? Those fanatic bitches called his wife a murderer.

    People like you and her are what's unecessary.

  • @loner1878 i didn't hear that bit. They did not know about her condition until they were informed, as far as I knowHowever, there are too many abortions

  • @alanbstard4

    They don't give a shit. Fanatic losers like this hang around clinics to harass women, not caring about their circumstances and only wanting to impose their views on others.

    Who are you to judge whether there are too many abortions? Mind your own fucking business.

  • @loner1878 there are too many abortions. I am not anti abortion.

  • @alanbstard4

    If you think there are too many, then I hope you're active in birth control advocacy.

  • @loner1878 i have no problem with birth control, I just think there are too many abortions

  • @alanbstard4

    I didn't insinuate that you did have a problem with birth control. I asked what you're doing to help make it affordable and accessible for everyone.

  • @loner1878 that depends. In the modern so called multicultural society, whites are being outbred by certain immigrant cultures

    Some cultures do not won't their women on the pill for religious and cultural reason

    In principle, yes, give it to all, but may present social difficulties

  • @alanbstard4

    Some of "those cultures" are right here in the U.S among whites. Catholics aren't supposed to take birth control. Or ever heard of the Duggars or the Quiverfull movement? Religious pharmacists have refused to distribute birth control to women.

    And btw, I lived in central america for a number of years (as well as a spanish translator in women's health clinics) and hispanic women do take birth control and have abortions. Cahtholicism is usally the problem.

  • @loner1878 In modern societies it's feminism

  • @alanbstard4

    Feminism = the social, political and economic equality of men and women. If that's too much for you too handle, I suggest you build a time machine and go back to the Dark Ages where you belong.

  • @loner1878 theory and practise are too different things

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  • @loner1878 Abortion is illegal in mexico and most central American countries only in mexico City can you get an abortion, i don't think any Catholic now a days argues with the fact that using condoms is not bad. Stop pointing fingers at one denomination it is obvious you have a hatred towards Catholics.

  • @tac0paco

    I know genius, I lived in Central America (El Salvador) and saw the terrible consequences of illegal abortions. Poor women suffered through the back alley practitioners when richer women could travel to the US for them.

    You know perfectly well the catholic church fought tooth and nail for decades against condoms, birth control and accurate sex ed. Pointing out reality isn't "hatred." Get over yourself, drama queen.

  • @loner1878 They did not call his wife a murderer, They did not even know what was wrong with his wife they are just out there to let the irresponsible 16 year old girls whom get pregnant every 2 months and go get an abortion to learn to fling be responsible.

  • @tac0paco

    "They did not call his wife a murderer"

    I have seen people like them outside clinics and that is exactly what they love to yell (if not "slut" or "babykiller" etc). And your defense of them is pathetic because the husband was not filming when he and his wife walked inside. You have no clue what happened.

    "They did not even know what was wrong with his wife"

    Exactly, They don't know shit about any of the women who go inside yet they feel justified in screaming abuse at them.

  • @tac0paco

    " they are just out there to let the irresponsible 16 year old girls whom get pregnant every 2 months and go get an abortion to learn to fling be responsible."

    Ignorant people like you love to pretend that's who have abortions. But that is a load of bullshit on your part. 61% of women who have abortions are already mothers. And teens make up the smallest percentage of women who get abortions.

    And abortion IS a responsible choice, like it or not.

  • That awkward moment when you go through 10 pages of comments without finding one thats not part of an argument

  • All the things he said to them is exactly what pro-life people are doing as well. Seems you can't put your money where your mouth is.

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  • These fundamentalist religious women are not trying to help, they are trying to make themselves feel batter, by yelling their idiology at people who dont share it and then they can feel superior. Thats what this is all about, not empathy or anything. Its basicly mental masturbation. If they really would do this out of empathy, they wouldnt attack other women, because even if a women chooses to have an abortion without being raped or the fetus being sick, the decision usually doesnt come easy. :(

  • @Jonathanizer It doesn't matter how easy or difficult the descision is, murder is never an answer... if God doesn't intend for the baby to live outside the womb then that is up to Him but who are we to assume that the baby will not make it or have a good life when we don't know what is five minutes ahead of us... oh and rape only accounts for .09% of abortions so please drop that useless argument.

  • @hollykharrison

    An abortion isnt murder. A fetus is not a person. It has the potential to become a human being, but thats not the same. As long as it is a bunch of cells at the beginning of the pregnancy, the decision is up to the pregnant women.

    And dont even let me get startet on your knockout argument "god", I dont oppose whatever medieval delusions people might believe, thats their own decision, but please dont push these beliefs and the implications on smarter people. Thanx.

  • @Jonathanizer Have you ever seen an abortion? Don't bs me on that. The baby is already a human being. It's a developing human being but that doesn't make it any less of a human. I have seen an abortion first hand. I know that the baby is torn apart limb from limb. You're right, abortion isn't just murder. It's TORTURE. A baby has a heart beat at just 2 weeks gestation, before most women know they are even pregnant. If that baby isn't alive, then explain how its heart is beating.

  • @Jonathanizer And don't question my intelligence because I have faith. I am intelligent enough to know that a heart beat indicates life, and a heart beat inside a developing HUMAN body indicates human life. I don't push my beliefs on others, I simply give my opinion and I will always protest hitleristic legalisms such as abortion because it's wrong. You are ignorant to think that you are smarter than me.

  • @hollykharrison

    I am ignorant because I think I am smarter than you? Hm well, most people are probably ignorant in this regard then. Its hard to operate under the assumption to be wrong, and this accounts for me too.

    But then again, I'm still confident to be right because I look for reason and logic as a foundation of my opinions, and not for some dogmata in ancient books written to drain money from some naive simpletons. So yes I think I'm smarter than you.

  • @hollykharrison

    I still might be wrong, other than people who have "faith" instead of intelligence I'm rarely 100% sure of such things, but to be honest chances are pretty slim, and I dont care if you think this is arrogant or ignorant or whatever. Its just how it is.

    And I'm not just claiming stuff, studies have shown that the level of a persons IQ and the intensity a person is religiously involved are negativly correlated. In simple words: religious people tend to be stupid.

  • @hollykharrison

    -3-

    So if you come and claim abortion is murder, and your first argument is "god", this just showes to me the lack of coherent actual arguments you have. You use polarizing phrases instead, god is just one example. You know the Hitler-reference doesnt help your case either, its just an insult to all the millions of millions Holocaust victims and WW2 deads and their families that you would put a monster like Hitler on a level with a person having an abortion.

  • @hollykharrison

    -4-

    Shame on you for doing so. Shame on you for trying to utilize a sad part of the worlds history to push your political views. It just shows my assumption to be true: anti-abortionists arent about empathy for a human being with a beating heart, they are all about putting themselves over others, and trying to push their views on others. If it would be about empathy, the tactics using religiously charged phrasing or Nazi allusions would not take place.

  • @hollykharrison

    -5-

    And btw, even though I dont think this is any of your business, I would personally never be for an abortion, I'm a proud dad and so glad my daughter exists. Never in my life I would have ever told a woman pregnant with my kid to have an abortion, and I never will. And if she wants an abortion, I will try to talk her out of it. But thats my personal feeling. I would not dare to ask the government to issue a law that everybody is forced to decide like I would.

  • @hollykharrison

    -6-

    And you know why I wouldnt ask the government to force my personal decision in this highly complicated question as a law on every person - no matter their circumstances? Because this is wrong and morally bankrupt. Because I'm (as a reasonable human being) never sure to be 100% right, and this way people can individually decide after their moral feelings, not the governments. Because I'm not ignorant. Because this is a difficult matter of privacy.

  • @hollykharrison

    -7-

    PS: I was thinking if I should dignify your really stupid argument "if it has a heartbeat it is a human being" with a response. I dont think any sane human being above the intellectual age of lets say 6 would take this serious. But since you think it's a serious counter to my "theres a lot more to being a person" riddle me this:

    -

    If a working heartbeat defines if you are a human being or not, is it okay to kill a person with a pacemaker?

  • I used to be "pro life' (against abortion) until I knew a girl in HS that had an abortion at 9. Giving birth would have killed her. SO she was an exception. Then I met another exception & another. That's when I realized I was in no position to decide this for someone else.

    These guys may say they would make exceptions of health but the laws they promote say differently. They are so busy deciding who is worthy & unworthy, that in the end no one is worthy of compassion or help in their eyes.

  • should of pushed them on the road

  • i would bash there fuckingheads in if they yelled at my mrs. dog cunts

  • By this logic, every time I masturbate, I am killing millions of babies?

    Well, I love masturbating. So I guess I love killing babies.

  • @Gunner3210 - These women were not protesting masturbation. They save that expression of sanctimonious aggression for their sexually frustrated husbands.

  • this should not be allowed in front of any store do to the fact it takes away your rights threw verbal badgering if they dont believe in abortion well good for them this is america we have the right to choose what we want to do with our bodies and voices and if they verbally bash you witch is slander they should be arrested on the spot what if there is a woman that was raped and was impregnated by that she shouldnt have to listen to the jaw jacking parasites yelling at her!!!!

  • @thebearjewkiller1976 Please tell me you do not support the Occupy movement then. After all I shouldn't have to hear their moronic chants, or have to walk around them, or smell them.

  • @colkestrel - What, you're rooting for the plutocracy?

  • @KarenLeFemme What mumbo jumbo are you slinging? thebearjewkiller1976 made a statement that these protests should not be allowed for what ever reasons he gives. I simply put that if he feels that way about these protests then he should feel the same way about OWS. The right to protest isn't given to just what you like.

  • @colkestrel - Oops, I see that now. Sorry, I missed the sarcasm. And while I think it's indecent and unchristian behavior to shout at or otherwise accost people as these women admittedly did, I'd never support legislation prohibiting free speech or the right to protest. In my mind, the OWS people are heroic, while the protestors in this video, like the Westboro bunch, et al, are doing more harm than good. Also I am opposed to mumbo jumbo outside of comedy, art and literature. .

  • @KarenLeFemme how are the protestors in these situations worse the the OWS protestors? OWS has started riots. Accosted people while trying to go to work. Create tent cities with rape and thievery. Prevented a handicap woman from leaving a building because they blocked the handicap ramp. Seriously go look at all the crimes committed by OWS protestors and their camps. Make sure you set aside at least an hour to view them all.

  • Abortion is awful. Awful things happen to good people and not every abortion is the result of selfishness... Some are, and ,those are wrong and amount to murder. Others are compassionate and sensible.

  • @finight9 You are totally right; 97% of women abort just because they want or because they are sadly forced to do it. I'm from Spain, 110.000 abortions every year, 100.000 abortions just because the mother wants to; the foetus was ready to live and dies; in the USA, I guess is about a million abortions just because the woman decides to kill her baby or she's forced to do it. This is going to explode some day

  • Wow what an incredible douche. Great way to talk to your elders you moron, people have the right to chose what they want to support. If he ever came up to me like that I'll probably just do the right thing !

    Plug in my ipod and keep doing what I came to do. :)

  • @SiiNTi You just contradicted yourself you dumbass! "People have the right to choose what they want to support," your words. This man chose to support his wife by confronting two women who didn't know their story or what they'd been through. Women who get off by making other people feel misreable when already at their lowest. Cunts like these two shrivelled up, resentful, holier-than-thou bitches would make the world a little bit better by perhaps being pro-contraception. You fucking hypocrite!

  • @astrokat1000

    Hypocrite? listen to yourself before you call me a hypocrite you ignorant minded fool. This country supports the freedom of speech! If you don't like the anti abortion protest for ANY reason then take your sad storys into your own considerations and take your anger, depression, sadness somewhere else. You're not supporting anyone by bringing in more hate to other people, grow from your experiences and focus on your OWN DAMN life instead.

  • @SiiNTi Listen you little litter runt, listen to your fucking self! It's quite obvious that in your little mind no one else's opinions matter other than your own! You keep bleating on about freedom of speech, etc, UNLESS someone is saying something you don't agree with! Like I said cunt, you are a hypocrite! Don't go on about how people have the right to do this and that, and then take an affront to my rights - you two-faced, little fuck!! Fuck off and die! HYPOCRITE!

  • @astrokat1000

    LOL umad? I support my cause but i I WILL NOT let some pissed of douchebag come up to me and bring up his sad lil story's. Get some f*cking manners before you decide to stand up for your cause, MAYBE THEN people will listen, you f*cking hypocrite yourself.

  • @SiiNTi

    "Get some f*cking manners before you decide to stand up for your cause"

    I suppose you think calling a woman losing a wanted pregnancy a slut and a murderer is a shining example of perfect manners, then. And calling their experience a "sad lil story" tell VOLUMES about what a douchebag YOU are.

    And you want people to listen to you respectfully? What a fucking disgusting hypocrite you are.

  • @loner1878

    You pathetic youtubers to jump in conclusion, you're so blinded by what other people say you jump into conclusion to think everyone else says the same thing. THAT already tells you how hypocrite you are, haha you think by making excuses to make me look bad is going to work. You Foolish kid. Yes, I will call someone a douchebag if some person came up to me like that and just call their story's "sad", Yes, I will just plug in my ipod and resume to my work. Dont like it? GTFO. (:

  • @SiiNTi

    If reading all your idiotic comments is what you call "jumping to conclusions" then you're dumber than I thought.

    Yeah, about what I could expect from trash like you. Go join your cunt friends on the sidewalk and show the world what a piece of judgemental shit you are.

  • @loner1878

    Trash, c*nt, idiotic. Thank you, I just hope the next person you try to talk to and push your stupidity and ignorance won't be intimidated by a lil f*ck like you. ANYWHO. back to this video. YOU GO GIRLS don't let some random douchebag scare you. :)

  • @SiiNTi

    Look at you, trying to make yourself look big by accusing everyone else of ignorance and stupidy when you are the shining example of both here.

    You're not fooling anyone, little shit.

  • @loner1878

    Well I'm glad you think that way, but I have already proved your anger alongside your ignorance of trying to prove a point. Little boy, you're only fooling yourself. Keep doing it you lil f*ck (oyes nice comeback btw taking the same word as mine) I know you have nothing better to do in your sad life,I mean your name says it all LOL,.

  • @SiiNTi

    You don't even have the guts to post your big opinion on the original video where the guy who filmed this can reply to you himself.

    Anger? LOL, mild amused annoyance if anything. I don't get that bothered by insignificant things like you that easily.

    LOL, so if my username had the word "ninja" in it you would take that seriously? LOL wow, I hope you did better in other subjects at school than anything requiring critical thinking.

  • @loner1878

    *yawn* good for you kid. now watch me leave as I DONT waste my time anymore with a lowlife youtuber, I must get back to my NYE party, buh bye.//

  • @SiiNTi

    If I'm a "lowlifeyoutuber", what are you exactly?

    Wow, must be a lame ass party if you decided to troll on youtube in the middle of it - your yawning can't be a good sign either. Sorry you're stuck there for the new year...NOT XD

  • @SiiNTi

    This is probably too advanced for you, but my username is a literary reference to a story set in the year 1878, the character my username alludes to was a loner.

    Anyways, what's wrong with being a loner? Can't handle being by yourself for five minutes? Aww...poor little wimp.

    BTW, ad hominems are the sure sign of shit debaters who have nothing of substance to say and can barely hide it. Seeing as that is your bread and butter here, I'd say you're at the end of your rope.

  • @loner1878 ...'bread and butter'...You know that thing in the bible, in Ezekial where gawd tells his followers to make bread from human poop? Why don't fundies hold up signs with that written on it, instead of the same tired overused ones they normally do? You know there was a whole christian spritual movement(movement!) that ate human poop for gawd? Not content with hair shirts and self flagulation, there were poo eaters.But they did for Jesus,so it wasn't Sacher Masoch kinda stuff.

  • @dianalee84

    They do have an interesting habit of ignoring inconvinient bible passages XD

  • @SiiNTi You really are a dickhead. You just don't get what I'm trying to say. You talk about freedom of speech but what about this man's rights to stand up for his wife? Freedom of speech is the right of EVERYONE, it's not exclusive. That's why I said you're a hypocrite! Practice what you preach you lame little cunt!! How's that for manners, fuck-knuckle?

  • @SiiNTi - Are you arguing from a Christian perspective? Because if you are, this would be a good time for reflection as you evaluate your persona in regard to New Testament codes of conduct. Those two women's right to protest does not preclude the man's right to counter protest, and by addressing his wife personally, they moved the protest from a public demonstration to a personal confrontation. And that action demanded him to respond. PS, name calling destroys your credibility.

  • this guy is just and incredibly emotionally distrot individual at the news that his unborn child was diagnosed with a fatal diformity. i wonder what he would say not infront of protesters and not on the day of his wife's abortion.

  • I am very saddened to hear that happened to you and if that was the reason for one of your abortions, then that is one I agree with. You are in my prayers, I know stuff like that leaves a lasting mark on a person. You may be unique, but most I know who had them are to some extent regretful of it.

  • the women in this video are heroes

  • I can barely tell what anyone is saying.

  • I'm also against doctors performing abortions!

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  • As a pro-choice woman, I support whole-heartedly support the woman's right to choose what to do with her body. If you don't agree with abortions, then don't get one. every person has their own reasons for the decision they make. pills fail, condoms break, people get raped, its none of anyone else's business what someone's reason is. Stay out of my pants and I'll stay out of yours. It's THAT simple

  • @poeticnerd1990 maybe you should try to swallow. it would solve all the problems plus it would get your dumb ass feminist mouth shut for while

  • @Vulturu this coming from a SLA reject? thats rich.*note the sarcasm*

  • @poeticnerd1990 no, coming from an atheist human with a higher IQ then room temperature, unlike the creator of the video or you. i can't believe you said "the woman's right to choose what to do with her body" when you talk about abortion. cut one of your arm, or better, both, and no one will protest against that. no-one cares what you do with YOUR body, bitch, but abortion is another thing. ps: pretend you've cut your arms and don't reply

  • @Vulturu You're so quick to judge when people show support for the continued legalization of abortion, but have you ever stopped to consider that it's none of your business if someone gets one? it's not your body carrying a child, but a woman's body, and therefore HER right to choose. We are not just incubators with no further purpose than to carry a man's seed. PS. I have a proven IQ of 152, which is obviously more than can be said for you.

  • @poeticnerd1990 maybe you're autist or something then. you keep talking about abortion like is a kind of liposuction. well is not. it's not a contraceptive measure either. it's murder. it should treated as such unless in some extraordinary like rape or something like that. any other cases it should be treated as murder. you can't deny a child's right to live at the time he depends at his mother the most. is a "he" not an "it"! period

  • @Vulturu it IS an it until it hits about 20 weeks, when the fetus develops sex organs. I'm not acting like it's liposuction, or anything less serious than what it is. when a fetus is viable outside the womb, THEN it's legally a person. They have a 24-hr waiting period for abortions in most states for a reason!

  • @poeticnerd1990 you say you're a genius, but fail to understand i was talking about the morality of abortion, and not the legal issue...

  • @Vulturu unless men start getting pregnant, or stop asking their girlfriends to get abortions to avoid parental responsibility, then you'll be able to argue the morality of abortion. When you look at most pro-life boards, there not a woman amongst them. Which is pretty interesting since neither your body or life is affected by this. HER body, HER choice. End. Of. Story.

  • @Vulturu 'abortion is murder' in your ideal world, what should happen to women who get illegal abortions,if it wasn't legal? Bear in mind the legality of abortion has no impact on the numbers of abortions. So, since 4 of 10 US women will have an abortion, what should the punishment be? Life in jail or the death penalty?What about manslaughter for miscarriages? And by the way, abortion Is contraception/birth control. It stops women being pregnant, and giving birth...ie it Is birth control.

  • @poeticnerd1990 so if I were to murder some random person on the streets, just don't worry about it, right? like i mean, it doesn't really effect you at all, so why should anybody get in the way of me being able to murder someone on my own free will? makes total sense

  • @allstrbasebal73 Pretty sure a random person is not tied biologically to you. so what reason would you have to do that?

    But lets say you have a point of sorts. Many would agree that it is wrong to stand around and let someone be harmed & even killed by the actions of another

    So where were these "pro life" people when insurance companies were denying care & cops are taser people to death. Why dont' they have a problem with wars?

    Their love of life seems very narrow. it stops at birth.

  • @booley I don't know, ask the murderers themselves. People kil other people who arent related to them all the time, and they have motives.embryos and mothers are not biologicaly tied, merely dependant. they are two separate people.

    but insurance companies denying care isn't killing somone. and if a cop tasers a person to death, I'm sure the person who was tasered did something really bad, not to mention the fact there aren't 55 million taser deaths a year. embryos are COMPLETELY innocent.

  • @allstrbasebal73 so you can't think of any reasons why or how randomly killing stranger sis like a woman choosing to get an abortion and want me to research for you.

    And yes insurance denying claims IS killing someone. Because w/o that money someone wont' get the treatment they need to live.

    Did you forget how our medical industry works the way you forgot how pregnancy works?

  • @booley also, I'm sure you would see many pro life people protesting these taserings and lack of insurance, it simply does not compare in scope to abortion

  • @allstrbasebal73 No I would not see these "pro-life" people protesting that because when given a chance they never do.

    Indeed considering how these people vote, they seem quite all right with taserings and lack of insurance.

  • @booley Oh really? Pro lifers vote people in office who support tasering people to death and denying people health dare? Shut up, no they don't, because no candidates do. No pro lifers support letting people die or tasering people to death at all. We support human life, at all stages, in all conditions, and at all modes of consciousness. To think otherwise is ridiculous, a contradiction of morals society holds.

  • @allstrbasebal73 yes. Were you asleep for the last 30 years?

    or the last few republican debates?

    They have no problem letting people die if they aren't a cluster of cells. That includes from lack of health care or police brutality (though they wouldnt' phrase it as such pro lifers tend ot also be authoritarians), wars, poverty..whatever.

    OR as Frank once put it, for pro lifers, life begins at conception and ends at birth.

  • @booley Oh my God not allowing universal health care doesn't mean killing someone retard, that's like saying not donating to Africa right now is killing a kid. You don't know what you're saying, indirectly not supporting funds that may eventually result in someone possibly not living their full life expectancy because they didn't receive 100% the treatment they should have is NOT the same as sticking a needle in someone and killing them.

  • @allstrbasebal73 if you dont' have access to health care that you need to live, you die.

    It's not complicated.

    So when an insurance company refuses to pay for a treatment someone needs, it means that person dies.

    That's just people with insurance. Those without are estimated to die 45,000 every year because they didnt' have it. (another study showed uninsured are 3 times more likely to die in emergency rooms)

    con'td

  • @allstrbasebal73 I mean clearly people die from lack of care from things that by rights they should not have died from.

    Your earlier point was that pro lifers cared about ALL human life and so would care about this.

    Now you are back tracking, trying to claim this doesn't count somehow.

    That's very telling to me.

  • @allstrbasebal73 Killing people on the street is just the pro-choice option; because I choose to kill somebody on the street, why not??? I am on my right to do it; the pro-death option wins

  • @BlackSkyThunder thank you, a very sickening argument indeed

  • @allstrbasebal73 This society is the only sickening thing; a society that gives facilities to interrupt human lifelines in stead of other solutions; or maybe the world has no solution; ok, most women abort just because they want to and this is the reality; selfishness and evilness are the forces behind! You will get frightened if you read some of the testimonies of the women who aborted

  • @allstrbasebal73 excuse me? I didnt say anything like that.You must have confused mine with another comment.

  • @poeticnerd1990 no no, directed at you completely. you said "if you don't agree with abortions, then don't get one," and "its noone else's busisness what someone's reason is," essentially stating the argument that if it doesn't concern you, don't worry about it. but that's a silly argument, because we know very well it is not morally right to ignore such things as murder even if they do not effect you

  • @allstrbasebal73 OK look, not agreeing with the procedure is one thing, but trying to force your beliefs on other people is another thing entirely. When men start getting pregnant and has to face such an ordeal, then we'll talk about who it effects.

  • @poeticnerd1990 well, we force the belief that murder is wrong on everyone in society, whether they believe in it or not. so why should abortion be any different? and i hate that argument, "you don't know what it's like." men have experienced pain just like women have, no matter what the pain it is no excuse to kill

  • @allstrbasebal73 Noone gives a damn about your moral agenda. It's not like every single woman who gets an abortion does so for the sake of an abortion. What if you had a little sister who was raped and became pregnant as a result, and carrying the fetus to term would prove dangerous, if not life-threatening. What then?

  • @poeticnerd1990 the only time abortion is allowed is if it is life threatening. then it is okay because you have to save one life. BUT, lets not forget that only 3 PERCENT of cases are either rape or are life threatening, so do not bring that argument into this. I'm more worried about the 97 percent. and you don't care about morals???? get the hell out of here, if we didn't care about morals slavery would still be legal in America

  • @allstrbasebal73 And you just took what little intelligence you brought to this argument and threw it right out the window. Good Day Sir.

  • @poeticnerd1990 I'm sure you were referring to my slavery comment. I wasn't drawing a parallel between abortion and slavery, simply stating you do have to consider morals when deciding issues like this

  • @poeticnerd1990 or maybe your done responding because you have nothing else to say to that, either way goodbye

  • @poeticnerd1990 It is not pro-choice, it is pro-death; if you are so fucking stupid to think that abortion is not interrupting a human lifeline it is because you have not studied basic biology. Humans is the only animal who aborts; someday we'll pay for this...

  • @BlackSkyThunder Pro-choice is NOT Pro-death, Pro-choice is the firm belief in a woman's right to CHOOSE the direction of her own life. Women are NOT incubators, and an abortion is a private decision between a woman and her health care provider. Do. Your. Research.

  • @poeticnerd1990 sorry, you think that her decision only chooses the direction of HER life??? very far from the truth, she in fact ends another life. when an issue such as murder comes up, it goes WAY past just a woman and her health care provider

  • @allstrbasebal73 The government shouldnt have a say in what I do with my body. Her body. Her choice

  • @poeticnerd1990 well, going off your argument, are you for the legalization of cocaine and crystall meth? your body, your choice. but this is even worse than the drug cases, because in this case the woman's "choice" is effecting more than herself, but a completely different human being

  • @poeticnerd1990 A doctor who dedicates his life to extract human foetus is the clear existance of evilness in this world. Women trasmit life? It used to be something good, now it seems to be something awful. I cannot understand how many people can be in favor of this repulsive action; i just cannot understand it.

  • @BlackSkyThunder the abortion procedure is taught to every med student who hopes to be a doctor. and do you have any idea how many men try to pressure their girlfriends to get an abortion to escape paternal responsibility? yeah. It's not just women in the wrong here. it goes both ways