Have to respect these Christians for hosting this conversation with Jim Underdown. They could so easily have taken offence at some of the things he said, such as comparing hating God to hating Fred Flintstone. They don't take themselves too seriously :)
Jim Underdown was brave to do this and did a great job getting his points of view across.
But the thing about Science is the fact that Science can cure death. Science has already found the aging gene and is working on a way to in a sense turn it off. Yeah you would still die if you were like in a horrible accident or something but aging death would stop completely. Science has real answers. Religion has nothing to offer this world but ignorance.
For Stupid People Aliens Would Not Fall Into The Group Of Paranormal Because We Ourselves Prove That Life Can Exist In The Universe We Are Aliens To Aliens 100s of New Planets are Being Found There are Billions Of Star In The Milky Way We Only Have One Star Out Of Those Billions In The Universe So Yes Its Safe To Say There Are Aliens We Just Haven't Found Them Yet And They Haven't Found Us. There's A Lot Of Space Out There Aliens Are Not Paranormal.
The host seems to be playing dumb in order to get the answers he wants. The questions are lame. "Do atheists believe in aliens?" Really? Atheists aren't a group! It is a lack of one belief, or one belief, that there isn't a god. You can believe in Marklar and not believe in god or vice versa. You can believe meatball sandwiches are the best and not believe in PB&Js.
Question to ALL Christians: If God knows everything that has happened, is happening, and is going to happen, WHY did he even allow the fruit of knowledge to even be on the Earth? He KNEW we would eat that fruit being the gullible human beings that we are. Not only that, but sin was created when we ate that fruit. So technically, we shouldn't have been allowed to make that choice if sin wasn't even in the equation yet. So what the hell? Is this all a sick fucking joke?
No such thing as a dumb question? OH YES THERE IS! That first question is a goddamn DUMB one. Atheists do not BELIEVE there is no god. They DON'T BELIEVE there's a god, like christians have deluded themselves into. You are profoundly DUMB if you don't see the difference between "believe" and "don't believe."
I would also strongly recommend that anyone interested, examine a very powerful analysis of Mr. Harris' secularist perspective & subjectivism by Jackson Lears. The article is called, "The same old new atheism" . It can be read in the May 2011 issue of the Nation Magazine.
Have to respect these Christians for hosting this conversation with Jim Underdown. They could so easily have taken offence at some of the things he said, such as comparing hating God to hating Fred Flintstone. They don't take themselves too seriously :)
Jim Underdown was brave to do this and did a great job getting his points of view across.
LsBaba 3 months ago 2
But the thing about Science is the fact that Science can cure death. Science has already found the aging gene and is working on a way to in a sense turn it off. Yeah you would still die if you were like in a horrible accident or something but aging death would stop completely. Science has real answers. Religion has nothing to offer this world but ignorance.
KamidakeRed 4 months ago
For Stupid People Aliens Would Not Fall Into The Group Of Paranormal Because We Ourselves Prove That Life Can Exist In The Universe We Are Aliens To Aliens 100s of New Planets are Being Found There are Billions Of Star In The Milky Way We Only Have One Star Out Of Those Billions In The Universe So Yes Its Safe To Say There Are Aliens We Just Haven't Found Them Yet And They Haven't Found Us. There's A Lot Of Space Out There Aliens Are Not Paranormal.
KamidakeRed 4 months ago
Should be renamed to "Churchies humbly accept a philosophical schooling".
BeBoBli 4 months ago
The host seems to be playing dumb in order to get the answers he wants. The questions are lame. "Do atheists believe in aliens?" Really? Atheists aren't a group! It is a lack of one belief, or one belief, that there isn't a god. You can believe in Marklar and not believe in god or vice versa. You can believe meatball sandwiches are the best and not believe in PB&Js.
shabido1 4 months ago
very thypical quastions from the audience, but also a very nice and open feeling bonus points to the congregation in question
IVscythia 5 months ago
What a surprise, California. Suggests the 'political' attitudes are the real problem, not the religion.
SelfImmolator 5 months ago
atleast their are some open minded christians!
FreeworldJTP 5 months ago
I love these church debates and atheist talks..
endthedisease 5 months ago
Question to ALL Christians: If God knows everything that has happened, is happening, and is going to happen, WHY did he even allow the fruit of knowledge to even be on the Earth? He KNEW we would eat that fruit being the gullible human beings that we are. Not only that, but sin was created when we ate that fruit. So technically, we shouldn't have been allowed to make that choice if sin wasn't even in the equation yet. So what the hell? Is this all a sick fucking joke?
ArechancE 5 months ago
I love this Church! I must go!
iamdavin 6 months ago
Kudos to a Church allowing discussion and inviting alternative view points. Thumbs up to you guys.
BarryE1958 6 months ago 2
It also seems that the presentor is asking the questions in a way to make Jim look good.
svenleeuwen 6 months ago
Wow, love his respons to "Isn't science based on beliefs?" at 11:11m - 11:38m.
svenleeuwen 6 months ago
No such thing as a dumb question? OH YES THERE IS! That first question is a goddamn DUMB one. Atheists do not BELIEVE there is no god. They DON'T BELIEVE there's a god, like christians have deluded themselves into. You are profoundly DUMB if you don't see the difference between "believe" and "don't believe."
indignant99 6 months ago
No such thing as a dumb question.. ->so long as it's sincere.<- I think that's a legitimate statement.
TheRyanofSmiths 6 months ago
Neither Jim nor I believe in superstition. That's what it boils down to.
Lewcifer 6 months ago
Nice not to be painted as evil as is usually done.
Greyhound1405 6 months ago
this video makes Christians look so sensible and accepting....gross.
Bring back the evil, hateful Christians: those are the guys that make more atheists.
creejay 6 months ago 4
@creejay I'm sure it's just because the camera is rolling. =p
theRedPress 6 months ago
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I would also strongly recommend that anyone interested, examine a very powerful analysis of Mr. Harris' secularist perspective & subjectivism by Jackson Lears. The article is called, "The same old new atheism" . It can be read in the May 2011 issue of the Nation Magazine.
shieldsff 3 months ago
Now these are loving Christians. Jesus would be proud.
jwissick 6 months ago
An excellent interview, but I would have liked to see more emphasis that you do not have to be an atheist to be a secular humanist.
toppledgod 6 months ago
This is how it should be done.
jfinite 6 months ago 8