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  • Ovo je jedna od najvecih sramoti savremenog covecanstva...ali onaj koji krivi celokupan jedan narod za ovo je blago receno retardiran i glup.Tako da nisu Srbi krivi za ovo , nego pojedinci , dakle ljudska kuga.

  • Gde su sad' Laurel i Hardi I ovaj ljuti zrika, i njegov beli psiæ O, svi su mrtvi, odnešeni Bršljan je davno prekrio stih Od zla i briga su rešeni Al' divna ludost, k'o oreol, još rominja oko njih Bila je berba, osta' fotka od nje Leto neznano gospodnje No, uglavnom, ta su burad otkad popijena cale s' kacketom, cuvenim, od tvida Putunju sa leða skida Deda pred vranca spušta otkose sena
  • U smeðoj senci bresaka Samo po bluzi poznam majku I k'o da cujem mobu i kikote niz drum Al' svi su mrtvi i blaženi Bršljan je davno prekrio stih Od zlih vremena su spašeni A trag poštenja i dobrote K'o oreol još rominja oko njih U godišnjaku škole Važna lica šmekera i bubalica Ali samo jedan moto: Drži se, Planeto Sanjari, genijalci, šampioni Žrtvovani k'o pioni.
  • Bog nas sacuvo sta smo sve uradili sa yugoslavije zbog nekoliko pojedinaca koji su nam isprali mozak..pozz iz Bosne i da se nikad ne zaboravi i ne ponovi.

  • Sve je bacila niz rijeku Pijesma od Clip-a :)

  • i vi bi ovo nekome oprostili ...nema oprosta ni zaborava za ŽGADIJU...NEMA OPROSTA ZA MARVU

  • Jbt sta smo radili, tuga.

    Kako se zove muzika? Mnogo je dobro zvuci.

  • @mrprotox1 praški filharmonski orkestar.. ne znam ime djela

  • Vi Srbi ma kako vas nije sram? Tamo ste I ubijali svoju krv!

  • p.s sada su neka druga vremena MI Živi se moramo sijećati žrtava svak poštuje svoje Heroje, mi Hrvati s jedne strane , Bosanci s druge, i vi Srbi s trece...

    Govor mržnje ne prihvaćam, a pogotovo vidim da su neki zadojeni SLOBINOM politikom, Slobo je umro, isto kao i Franjo... IDEMO DALJE u ŽIVOT, necemo stalno gledati iza sebe lijepo se sijetit ljudi i zapaliti svijecu.poz KAPETAN

  • OVAKO BI I ZADAR IZGLEDAO DA NISU DOBILI NAREDBU ZA POVLACENJE ! BOGU HVALA STO JESU !

  • @LightSpeedCripple HRVATSKA JE IZAUVALA RAT TUDJMANOVOM POLITIKOM PREMA SRBIMA !

  • Djeco,pazite se Cetnika i dan danas.Jos oni sanjaju veliku srbiju.za dom spremni!

  • @Paintballerfromhell1 ajde kopilane ne pali tuda nego se obračunavaj sa njima ako već znaš sta oni sanjaju

  • @aqwaist Ja sam se prosli put 2 godine obracunavao.I opet cu ako zatreba. Doci ces i ti na red.ne brini ;)

  • @Paintballerfromhell1 he he ko zna sta je tebi u glavi i sa kim se ti obracunavas , rat je učinio svoje, ali nije ti lako

  • @LightSpeedCripple MALO JE REČ ''POBJEDILA'' PONIZILA PRED CILIM SVJETOM 4 ARMIJU HAHA,JE KAD SMO I MI BILI U TOJ ARMIJI,AL KAD SU HRVATI OTIŠLI PALI SU NA 94 MJESTO!!TI NJIHOVI MITOVI SU SAME LAŽI I UVELIČAVANJA,CIGANI BILI-CIGANIOSTALI!...OVO nije ništa posjetite Youtube pa čete čut Srpske bajke!

  • Iz krvi i boli rasti će cvijeće,Hrvatska nikad zaboravit neće Vukovar!!!!

    18.11.1991.-18.11.2011. GRAD HEROJ

  • naravno da je partnerstvo komunističkih generala i srpskih nacionalista u projektu male jugoslavije za prve i velike srbije za druge , pokrenulo rat i u Vukovaru postavilo standarde krajnje brutalnosti i neljudskosti koje su kasnije usvajali i dijelovi obrambenih vojski. Poklonimo se svim žrtvama svih neljudi i shvatimo da moramo uvažavati sami sebe i svoje susjede. Moramo pomoći sve one koji promiču pomirenje i kažnjavanje zločinaca. Budućnost moramo graditi prožimanjem. Hrvatska će biti EU,

  • ...grad oslobođen-do temelja...

  • Gorit će u paklu oni koji su ovo napravili!

  • Prokleli su ih Vukovarci..mora nikad imat neće svi oni koji Palili i Ubijali Hrvate U Vukovaru!

  • gorit cete u paklu za ovo!

  • I Istra će vam reći samo jedno - Zapamtite Vukovar!

  • ... zapamtite Vukovar braćo... koliko god tužan ovaj datum danas bio, 20 godina je prošlo, Hrvatska je pobijedila u ratu, danas slobodno šećemo našom Hrvatskom... Sjetite se svih naših heroja, branitelja i civila koji su nedužni stradali... Bog i Hrvati...

  • Nadam se da se ovakvi uzasi vise nece ponoviti u nasoj zemlji

  • hvala vam Branitelji moji šta danas živim u svojoj Republici Hrvatskoj !!

    :(

    a vi četnici, PROPADATE !

  • Nikad Hrvat zaboravit neće Vukovar - počast svim braniteljima iz Pule.

  • I was in Vukovar in Sept '91 and witnessed what was. The people of Vukovar have touched my life life ever since. I met the wonderful Siniša and his team at Radio Vukovar. I met others who tried to defend themselves from an onslaught, regardless of ethnicity. I even took up arms to for the first and last time in my life. I have always felt that what happened in Vukovar was a travesty and should not be repeated. Went to Bosnia to photograph other things, other countries. But never forget Vukovar

    

  • @IfThisIsKipling i would love to see your pictures

  • @IfThisIsKipling Thank you for your help and courage.God bless you and your family.Greetings from Slavonija near Vukovar(Croatia).We will never forget the people that helped us in our hour of need.

  • @LightSpeedCripple Па не можемо да вас оставимо на миру, прво нам вратите отету имовину и вратите протеране Србе и извините се за поклане Србе у другом светском рату, па можда и размислимо о остављању вас на миру, до тада ћемо и даље да показујемо свету какви сте ви крвожедни манијаци.

    Хрватска политика добра? Како да не, прво мало Јасеновац и Градишка Стара, па онда мало Бљесак и Олуја, па онда хоћете да вас оставимо на миру, а кад узвратимо, певате песме "Стап д вар ин Кроејша".

  • @LightSpeedCripple Немаш аргументе... Довиђења.

  • @LightSpeedCripple Погелдај мало по јутубу, само се Хрвати и даље поносе фашизмом и сањају некакве НДХ државе, НДХ која се чак и Хитлеру згадила.

    Европа вас много цени и поштује, похаписала вам генерале и послала их у затвор, а вашу велику победу над српском "агресијом" је прогласила вашим етничким чишћењем.

    Мени таква Европа и не треба, Европа која је изопачена и слуша само Америку, тамо иду слаби народи попут хрватског који по цео дан пева "данке дојчланд".

  • @LightSpeedCripple Па да, ви се никада не борите, само поклекнете пред јачима, а онда причате Србима о храбрости... Шта се тебе тиче где дал су Турци крочили у Сплиту, Дубровнику, нисте их ви спречили, спречили су их Млечани, Аустријанци, Мађари, Срби Крајишници, ви сигурно нисте. Хрвати су били нико и ништа до 1867. године у Мађарској када сте добили бановину која је имала бана МАЂАРА ахахах, који је одговарао мађарском парламенту, а мађарски парламент аустријском цару. Ви сте нула.

  • @LightSpeedCripple АХахахахахаххаахахахахах, све неке заједнице, нема ту никакве државе, ахахахахахах па могу и ја да кажем Србија део отоманског царстав 1499-1804. ахахахах како сте бедни.

  • A koliko je srbocetnika palo da bi se ovo napravilo, hiljade

  • @LightSpeedCripple Ааа, дакле немаш одговор где је Хрватска била кроз наведене векове. Нама ваше смрдљиво Загорје и не треба, смрди на мађарска говна, ми само хоћемо назад нашу Крајину и Барању, знаш она месте где сте ви побили и протерали Србе, па сте сад умислили да је то ваше. Следећи пут ћемо да уништимо Загреб, то село ионако није вредно ни помена на временској прогнози. Па не можете ви да побијете све Србе и протерате и да остане на томе, мора да падне освета.

  • @3SRBIJACCCC  hahahahahahahahahaahahaha, AJD SRBINE ŠUTI , ISPADAŠ PUNO MANJE GLUP :)

  • @LightSpeedCripple Ахахахха, Мирослав како? Србија је била у романтизму и класицизму са својим писцима у Дубровнику и АустроУгарској. Ако ћемо тако где је Хрватска била у 12. 13. 14. 15. 19. и скоро целом 20. веку? Нигде... Били сте негде између мађарских гована. Беше и 11. век нигде? а? Подсети ме твоје бедне историје.

    Вама је државни празник геноцид над Србима, ви нисте нормални, паћеници крвожедни.

  • @LightSpeedCripple Немате језик, цео свет вам се смеје што искомплексирано покушавате да измените свој језик само да не би личио на српски. Нисте имали државу 1000 година, сем ако ниси поносан на своју квази НДХ, лутку Хитлерову. Дуг вам броји преко 60 милијарди долара, а сереш о српској економији.

    Ваш идентитет се заснива на мржњи према Србима, зато вам је идентитет снажан ко глинени голуб. Сва ваша историја се огледава у песми "Данке Дојчланд" аххаха.

  • @LightSpeedCripple Имбецилу ретардирани, да је 1000 тенкова ЈНА продужило аутопутем до Загреба ти би сада јео говна у Словенији.

    Погледај своју историју, имали сте једног краља без писаног доказа да је имо краљевску круну, онда 1000 година ништа, онда дошли Срби, отерали Аустријанце и Мађаре јер ви сами нисте могли, па онда имате ту мало своје часне историје у Јасеновцу и НДХ, и то је ваша историја, а нама си кренуо да кењаш о историји, боље ме не подсећај на њу да те не бих прозивао. Усташо!

  • @LightSpeedCripple Вуковар је била намештаљка за глупе људе попут тебе. Тенкови из Србије су могли да продуже аутопутем до Загреба, ту нема препрека, и направили би од Загреба оно што смо направили у Вуковару, руину!

    Захвали ти НАТОу зато што је она бомбардовала Книн пре сам пад, и зато што НАТО и Америка нису дозвољавали Србији да ратује на страни Срба после 1992. године. Зато не једи говно овде и покриј се ушима.

  • Могли смо и Загреб овако да нас Америка и НАТО нису смарали.

  • Jebeno dobro ako nismo mogli da ga dobijemo barem smo ga ocistili :D

  • @Filipovski994 Ako ti je ovo smijesno, moja je duboka zelja da i ti jednom prodjes kroz ovako nesto. Ali ne sad, dok si jos evidentno balavac nego kasnije, da i cijela tvoja obitelj sa djecom moraju to trpiti. Platio bih dobre pare da ti tad vidim osmjeh na licu.

  • VICTORY!

  • serbs made this shit in vukovar, croats were only defending their city!

    but serbs died for nothing during the siege of vukovar. cause today croatian flag flyes over vukovar. with so much pride!

    serbs are loosers in this war. some 10000 died during the battle and they had to crush down everything as you see in this movie. 7 years later croats came to town without any bullet and any casualty. god were on croatian side and they won this battle! never again shouldnt happen like this. croatia foreve

  • hehehehe.. LOL is this something, or is this something (-_-) hehehhehe

  • @888johngalt Whatever Americans have to do with the EU / Germany, bro?

  • croats are bastards which are always try to catholicize Serbs in croatia but if they don't accept catholic they kill them.....

  • @orthodoxknight88 shut up you nazi scum. 

  • @Casio21970 Nazis are croats they was supported by SS divisions and they created SS handschar in Bosnia and ustaše were pro nazi.

  • @orthodoxknight88 Nazi are Serbs - Belgrade was the first judenfrei in Europe and Serbs also was supported by ss divisions like ss division Princ Eugen

  • @Casio21970 Belgrade was German occupied city so what you expect....

  • @orthodoxknight88 hahaha Serb Milan Nedic was Serbian president like Pavelic in Croatia

  • @Casio21970 He was not nazi lol...

  • @orthodoxknight88 Yes the Nedic  was nazi like Pavelic.

  • Who ever reads this, this guy is lieying.... simply.

  • Vukovar beautiful Serbian city, brave Serbian Chetniks have liberated it from ustasa croat genocidal agression.

  • @888johngalt theyre not, already geting into EU and already in NATO

  • @sqoTowiec why ?

  • @sqoTowiec good job? then the nazis attack on Warsaw is a GREAT job!!!! ;]

  • ŐSI MAGYAR FÖLDÉRT MARAKODTAK A DÉL SZLÁVOK...BASZD MEG TRIANON...

  • vidi gamadi što nam napravi od heroja!

  • odmazda će uslijediti..kad tad

  • It was my powerful dick !

  • UDRUZENI ZLOCINACKI PODUHVAT! Hrvatska je izgradjena na PROTERIVANJU I UBISTVIMA AUTOHTONONG STANOVNISTVA!

    Hrvatska mora da odgovara za svoja zlodela!

    Gotovina mora istruliti u zatvoru jer pravda je spora ali dostižna! :)

  • @AspectOfThePack kONJU GLUPI UMOBOLNI .. vi srpski rasisti i debili mislite da smo mi agresori, daj pogledaj malo video i procitaj ostale komentare koje su napisali ne srbe i ne hrvati nego drugi ljud iz drugih drzava koji nisu imali veze sa ovim .. Idiote jedan glupi

  • This video shows a completely decimated city, the aggressors were Serbs backed by the Yugoslav Army.

    Croatia will never forget.

    There was one group that created this destruction and they were Serbian.

  • Wow, pari mapa iz S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-a ili neke slične kul igrice, i to u mojoj zemlji! Ah šteta šta više nije ovako predivan da se mogu šetat okolo i gledat tu postapokaliptičnu ljepotu.

  • DAR MAR VUKOVAR

  • Vukovar = Srpski grad

  • @AspectOfThePack Majmune jedan,Vukovar nikada nije bio srpski grad niti će ikada biti! To je ponos cijele Hrvatske pogotovo slavonije,stoga se vi srbi poklopite usima i pjevajte za srbiju,tri put ratovala,tri put kurac popušila -.-"

  • @AspectOfThePack Vukovar nije nikad bi srpski grad,niti ce !!! a neznan samo kako se neko moze ponosit time da je njegov narod ubia tisuce dice,zen ai ranjenika !!!! puu ti jebem takve heroje i ratnike ! BOG I HRVATI !!!!!!!

  • mrs cetnicku ti glavu jebem, dobro ste prosli, a sada vas skoro vise i nema

  • al smo ga sravnili sa zemljom hohoho :D ovo je bili karanje u bulju...ma cuti, bolje ste prosli od srebrnickih poturica....moglo je da vas nema, sad vas samo traume i kompleksi muce...ma proci ce vas to, ne brinite, al tek kad umrete hahaha xD

  • @CCCCXD "smo ga sravnili"? Balavac, ti jedva da si se rodio kad se ovo dešavalo zato lagano prošeći. Kakio si u pelene tad, a sigurno bi kakio i danas da moraš prolaziti kroz ovako nešto. Internet junačina, ima vas na milijune.

    Ovi "kompleksi" zbog Vukovara su ništa prema vašim kompleksima zbog Opšte Bežanije 1995, u koju ni sami ne možete očito još povjerovati. "Komšije", učinili ste nam uslugu što ste otarasili Hrvatsku takvih susjeda. Uživajte svi tamo u Čačku ili kamo god ste već pobjegli

  • HAHAHA THE SERBS FUCKED UP VUKOVAR SO MUCH

  • FUCK YOU ALL WITH THEE WORLD WAR 2 ,LOOK AT THE VIDEO AND ASK SOMEBODY WHERE IS VUKOVAR

  • @ivo2908 europians know.... if they dont they are stupid....

  • from this war what were the major battles? besides this one of course

  • @sekytwo well there was a small one in osijek(most of it was heavy shelling and bombardment,whitout a single shot fired) and there was also dubrovnik

  • It was not sacrificed, it was just not strategically viable to reinforce. We had NO standing army at the time of Vukovar, during the we had to build our military completely from scratch. You are saying there was something that could be done about Vukovar? Well ask the fucking British who blocked an EU intervention, we finally had to rely on American guidance in Operation Storm to get our country back.

  • holy shit.... so the national guard defended this city against the serbs. how long did they hold them off for.?? what brave people they must have been

  • @sekytwo 87 days

  • @sekytwo

    87 days a single national guard division held out against Serbia's best mechanized divisions. These men saved our country and broke Serbia's war machine by putting it to a complete stop. The anniversary of this tragedy I always travel to Vukovar from America and look up at the water tower. I will always do this, and so will my kids.

    Za dom spremni!

  • @AuschwitzSummerCamp ...i za domovinu voljni

    živio vukovar i svi njegovi pali heroji :,)

  • @sekytwo

    Yep, JNA was the 4th strongest army on the world, and they stopped them

  • @sekytwo The defenders had one thing going for them and that is the JNA and chetniks were dumb enough not to realize they have to launch a coordinated attack on all sectors at once to overwhelm the small number of defenders. Prior to the last two weeks of the battle, they mostly attacked in isolated sectors which the defenders reinforced with anti-tank squads where necessary. Once the coordinated attack started at the end of October '91 and ammo ran out , defenders' lines started to collapse.

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  • strašno.. koliko mržnje... nema jedne kuće koja nije uništena.

    bio sam nedavno u Vukovaru i svaka im čast kako su obnovili grad iako ima još dosta objekata sa vidljivom štetom. svaki građanin Hrvatske treba posjetiti Vukovar. da se ne zaboravi <3<3<3

    a vi nacionalisti ispod u komentarima koji komentiraju svaki video vezan uz rat možete se samo gristi i sramiti ako uopće imate imalo srama ;)

    pozdrav iz zagreba

  • God Bless Vukovar and its people... You took a verry hell of a beating and took it back... Croatia a thousand welcomes from Ireland...

  • @woodkerne i love Ireland , one day must go there ( when i collect some money :P ) love the irish beers :)....Your history is also marked with very difficult times...Your history is quite similar to ours, fights against oppression...

  • Gledam ovo i razmisljam i jednostavno ne mogu vjerovati da se to sve desilo...da se tolika krv prolila i toliki zivoti nestali, tolike obitelji unistene. I cijelo vrijeme se pitam...Zasto?

  • sta se ne vratite u vukovar i izgradite ga,ne nego ste zbrisali i sad iz drugih krajeva HR serete i placete za vukovarom,vukovar ovo vukovar ono... ma daj daj

  • @MetaMen33 jer još srbija nije isplatila ratnu odštetu ( malo prati politiku ) ....

  • @numerocro

    ma zaboli me za srbiju ima pun k vukovaraca u istri pa pljuju istra za k istra ovo istra ono odi si u vukovar ako ti tu nije dobro vrlo jednostavno

  • @MetaMen33 šta budalo ima istra veze sa vukovarom 

  • @gravon1

    budala ti stari jer te napravio,a kakve veze ima,ima jer vas je previse tu i trosite svjezi istarski zrak i serete kvake

    vukovar ovo vukovar ono,sta niste tamo pa izgradite svoj sruseni grad???

  • @gravon1 jebo te damir kajin govno fašističko usrano jebem ti mater konjino usrana maloumna idiotska ti si obični srbin srbineeeeeeeeeeeee srbooo trofazni prokleti

  • Bog i Hrvati -3

    Zapamtite Vukovar!!

  • Can you please tell me what music is this?

  • @guanoapes0801990 Sarabande by Handel ;)

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  • this is not early 1990! this is 1994. this is scene from the Serbian movie "Vukovar - jedna prica". The war in Vukovar was in 1991

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  • Discussions are always passionate and angry when the event has passed. Vukovar was forgotten when convenient to forget it. Remember posters around Zagreb saying "Vukovar, the last stand". When Vukovar fell they disappeared and were quickly replaced with posters saying "Vinkovci, the last stand" Nobody gave a fuck, including Tuđman, the man who said he would save/create Croatia and the EEC “ice cream men”. I want to remember Siniša and all the others who lived to believe not in hatred but hope.

  • Sinisa Glavasevic was Croatian, why Serbs killed him if he wasn't armed, his arm was love - the truth

  • what music is this?

  • what music is this?

  • tužno

  • vukovar ce za uvijek biti un nasin srcima

    NEVER FORGET VUKOVAR!!!

  • Ante Gotovina Heroj!

  • szerbek nem emberek

  • Serbia = Cacncer of Europe

  • @QuickSixx Hungary = Piece of shit

  • The rats Serbs, the Romanians to be traitors, this is demonstrated during World War II!!

  • mocskos szerb állatok!

  • Megdöbbentő ez az értelmetlen rombolás....

  • There is a video somewhere on youtube where you can see one of the "liberators" of Vukovar talking to the camera, saying: "All that you see here was done by Ustashe. They placed bombs in houses and blew them up. When the army came (YNA) the town was already destroyed"

  • why is there not many films about this?

  • Am a Bosnian Muslim, and I wish no one, would go through this kind of thing.

    Not even Serbs.

    For these young Innocent Croat Christians who died , and other's who were brutally executed by the Serb forces. Let them rest in peace.

    NEVER FORGET WHAT HAPPENED IN BOSNIA,CROATIA,KOSOVO, AND SLOVENIA!

    AND!

    REMEMBER WHO DID THIS TO YOU.

    REMEMBER SO THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!

    Because the Serbs WILL TRY TO BE NICE WITH US AGAIN, and DO THE SAME THING OVER!!

  • @Sp1nS1ide yes that is truth

  • @Sp1nS1ide ...hey, this time Croatia needs support from the Bosnjaks. Did you all forget Gotovina helped free Bihac? i don't know you personally but where are all my bosnian friends on facebook supporting Croatia ? There is only silence....

  • moralo je tako...

  • Tuga i bol...prevelika bol

  • ...very simple people, it was the test who was stronger and who was not. Croatians wanted to fight, they lost the fight fair and square.... then they cried to america and they got vukovar back.... if america didnt get involved, i would be living in Vukovar today and not in western country where you don't feel welcome..

  • @goran2009 lost a fair fight, o jebem, li te sjebanog tako moj sinko 

  • TESTIMONY TO THE SERBIAN PEOPLE FOR EVER MORE... this is what they represent ..hatred ,death and destruction........and for what??? VUKOVAR WAS AND ALWAYS SHALL BE CROATIAN....

  • Ne želim nikome nauditi ili uvrijediti ali Srbi su u Vukovaru pokazali šta su sposobni.....

  • @MrOzora da sposobni su slat svoje ljude u smrt skoro 18000 njihovih je poginulo tu a jednu 100-200 tenkova srušeno,to je pirova pobjeda ,a to šta vidiš na kraju svega zauzeli su ništa,samo ruševine simbola

  • @MrOzora

    Kako te nije sramota da to kazes!?

    Mogu i ja reci sledece: hrvati su posle jasenovca pokazali sta su sposobni....mogu ali necu jer to vodi u zacarani krug osvete,poravnanje mora da postoji,neka Vukovar bude poravnanje izmedju Srba i Hrvata i tacka.

  • @Luxfero616 Jasenovac je bio tvorevina nacističkog logora koji se osnovao po nalogu nacističkih vlasti.....Njemačke,ustvari ne vrijedi ti objašnjavat ništa jer ionako ćeš opet po svome....čuvaj se prijatelju i budi zahvalan Bogu što se Vukovar i podunavlje vratilo Hrvatskoj mirnim putem......jer bi u suprotnom svaki Srbin dobrano zapamtio dan kada je htio silom mijenjat granice i dan kada je kročio na hrvatsko tlo......Jasenovac bi bio nula za ono što bi vam se dogodilo

  • sta uradi jedan ludak od Slobe...

  • Izvinite, da ovde slucajno nije pala atomska bomba? :)

  • Never forget and never forgive, that's all I can say ...

  • Möge Gott erbarmen mit Ihren Seelen haben denn Sie wussten nicht was tun!

  • @skky8822

    Murderers of Vukovar aren't God's children.

    They are the children of the devil.

    Let them burn in hell forever.

  • but the best serbian justification of the damage done to Vukovar is:

    "Ustaše did this by their own, they were blowing up bombs on the streets"

    I think, if you are already lying, then they should have come up with a far more better thing than this.

  • serbia should be fucking bombed ,by the way i laughed so hard when i saw a clip when beograd got bombed and the serbian sluts where crying som much they deserved it serbia kan suck cock!! jebem im mater

  • And the final point, let´s believe fmr croatian president Franjo Tudjman when he said "There would not be a war if Croatia did not want it. But we have assessed that only through war we will succeed gaining independence". End quote. And here they keep on talking about evil Serbs. That is nonsense.

  • Do you include RSK and RS separatists separatists?

    Vukovar might have been truly sacraficed by the Zagreb leadership (no reinforcements), but the Serbs have destroyed it and killed the hospital.

  • What reinforcements? With what weapons? Croatia was bleeding on all sides... not just in Vukovar.

  • the truth is that Vukovar was sacrificed to present Croatia as a victim and speed up the recognition of Croatia as independent state

    ..........

    yeah, yeah... Croats were killing Croats, Bosniaks were killing Bosniaks ...

    all just to make Serbs look like bad guys. >>  Makes a lot of sense

    /sarcasm

  • Vukovar was sacrificed? Hmm... maybe you're right... why else Tudjman didn't sent that super secret army that "Ustashe were building underground since WWII, preparing for a new genocide", or why didn't he sent those "7.5k Kurdish terrorists that speak Arabian"? Or "black mercenaries from Africa"? ...

    Since we know none of them were sent to aid Vukovar's defenders, it's clear that Vukovar was sold, right?

    And it also completely justifies all the things Serbs did.

    /sarcasm

  • That's not only this.

    Tudjman sabotaged Croatian preparations for the war and then the war effort all the time.

    For example, he rejected the plan to seize the JNA weapon storages and lay sieges to the bases before the war started.

    He did this because he did not want to antagonize the Serbs and to divide Bosnia with them.

    Shortly after Vukovar, he agreed for the ceasefire just as the Croats were gaining the upper hand.

    Later he did the same when the BiH and Croat forces almost won in Bosnia.

  • And then of course, while he tolerated the Serb occupation of large parts of Croatia, ethnically cleansed, for years, Tudjman ordered the Croats in Bosnia to attack... their allies against the Serbs in Bosnia. So it's not that he was just peaceful or something.

    And the weapons originally destined for Vukovar went to Dalmatia. And never even arrived there, but this doesn't even matter, because there was no real war in Dalmatia anyway.

  • Attacking YNA in '90 or early '91 would have been a very bad move. Thank god he didn't listen to the likes of Špegelj on this one. Barracks were attacked in September when there was no more point in waiting. What YNA did in August made it clear whose army it really was.

    My point is; it's easy to be a general after the battle. I don't think Vukovar could have been saved, at least not without sacrificing some other Croatian town that had a much higher strategical importance then Vukovar.

  • @PitajMamu vukovar was sacrificed for another plan just before Milosevic and tudjman agree to divide Bosnia and Herzegovina. After the "peace" was sign in dayton, serbs had leave vukovar and eastern slavonia was again croatian.