I didn't see all your other videos so I'm not sure if he's in there, but Vigor with Empyrial Archangel have really nice synergy together. Granted Vigor will have a big target on his head, but it will definitely stop your opponents from attacking you until he's gone. I sometimes Tooth & Nail for these two in my Rafiq deck :)
@st0mpf3st I didn't run Vigor then and I don't now. I hear your point, but since this deck is PRIMARILY multiplayer, having Vigor is like having a bullseye on my chest asking to be shot. I am considering putting in Tooth and Nail (need to find room) for just being awesome in general, but Vigor (with his 3 green cost) is difficult to fit. I'll definitely keep it in mind, though, thanks a lot.
I enjoyed your primer, my deck has become very aggro and my meta shifted more and more to combo which put me a bit behind. I'm taking out some of the fatties for more utility creatures (Ulamog, akroma are going out). One thing that's defintely never leaving now is blightsteel colossus.
@TheStarfox567 Well, that card is a one-two punch with Rafiq/Finest hour. But I understand and sympathize. I would recommend cards like Mindbreak Trap (now for me a sideboard) to undo pesky combo plays or counter wars. Maybe put in more land destruction lands (aka Wasteland, Tec-edge, ghost quarter, strip mine, etc) to get rid of combo land pieces (like Cabal Coffers). Those two fatties don't seem viable. Maybe use cards like Snapcaster mage, Kira Great Glass spinner, etc. Luck!
@StreeetLethal Two concerns (and you can check out the updated video further up to see what more I've edited so far): 1) Sovereigns is a bit weak without more Auras, and I have found auras to not hold up in high removal metas (like mine) and 2) That would be used in a Rafiq focused deck. This doesn't really use him on his own, he acts more as a buff on my REAL scary guys (aka Inkwell Leviathan, Empyrial, etc) But thanks for the comment :D
i believe finest hour is better then what your saying. the exakted truggers go off again. for example T4 rafiq, T5 finest hour. attack 5/5 double strike, then untap and swimg with a 7/7 double strike
@joejoejoejoe135 Oh. My. God. You're right, I've never thought of that. It totally stacks! And that makes the Storm Leviathan's first attack 10 damage X2 (20) and then 12 damage x2 (24)=44. Wow. Never even realized that. Thanks so much for this comment. It's amazing!
@Greenlexluther But Sky Swallower is just a 6/6 flying trample shroud beast that freaks the board out. People A) are more likely to wrath if they see him around and B) By mid game, he is pointless since he can't be targeted by your own spells or abilities. The only pro I can see is that he a creature who will get pumped by Rafiq/Finest hour. But he does NOTHING on his own. Chancellor hits play and can do stuff, also can do it over and over as it comes in and out of play through recursion
@Roxaboxen90 I would sooner have a large dumb beater than a 5/7 who will do nothing after it hits play, its comes into play is amazing but I really dont see it actuallty connecting for any damage.
@Greenlexluther And you see the Swallower doing that? Believe me, the chances that Swallower will do damage are minimum. AND, Chancellor can be recast and do stuff multiple times/rite of replication. Swallower is ALWAYS a dumb beater in this deck. Besides, I don't expect the Chancellor to do much damage. He is there for his ability, with the bonus that you get a 5/7 flier along with it. And he does something if he starts in your hand.
Mediocre how? This is not a competitive/1v1 deck. The 7cc is not terrible to pay with the ramp you have, and the ability is really helpful, particularly late game. It also happens to be a 5/7 flying body.
I didn't see all your other videos so I'm not sure if he's in there, but Vigor with Empyrial Archangel have really nice synergy together. Granted Vigor will have a big target on his head, but it will definitely stop your opponents from attacking you until he's gone. I sometimes Tooth & Nail for these two in my Rafiq deck :)
st0mpf3st 2 weeks ago
@st0mpf3st I didn't run Vigor then and I don't now. I hear your point, but since this deck is PRIMARILY multiplayer, having Vigor is like having a bullseye on my chest asking to be shot. I am considering putting in Tooth and Nail (need to find room) for just being awesome in general, but Vigor (with his 3 green cost) is difficult to fit. I'll definitely keep it in mind, though, thanks a lot.
Roxaboxen90 2 weeks ago
I enjoyed your primer, my deck has become very aggro and my meta shifted more and more to combo which put me a bit behind. I'm taking out some of the fatties for more utility creatures (Ulamog, akroma are going out). One thing that's defintely never leaving now is blightsteel colossus.
TheStarfox567 2 months ago
@TheStarfox567 Well, that card is a one-two punch with Rafiq/Finest hour. But I understand and sympathize. I would recommend cards like Mindbreak Trap (now for me a sideboard) to undo pesky combo plays or counter wars. Maybe put in more land destruction lands (aka Wasteland, Tec-edge, ghost quarter, strip mine, etc) to get rid of combo land pieces (like Cabal Coffers). Those two fatties don't seem viable. Maybe use cards like Snapcaster mage, Kira Great Glass spinner, etc. Luck!
Roxaboxen90 2 months ago
Your deck is quite good but u need soverings of lost alara + eldrazi conscription easy one shot combo :D
StreeetLethal 3 months ago
@StreeetLethal Two concerns (and you can check out the updated video further up to see what more I've edited so far): 1) Sovereigns is a bit weak without more Auras, and I have found auras to not hold up in high removal metas (like mine) and 2) That would be used in a Rafiq focused deck. This doesn't really use him on his own, he acts more as a buff on my REAL scary guys (aka Inkwell Leviathan, Empyrial, etc) But thanks for the comment :D
Roxaboxen90 3 months ago
i believe finest hour is better then what your saying. the exakted truggers go off again. for example T4 rafiq, T5 finest hour. attack 5/5 double strike, then untap and swimg with a 7/7 double strike
joejoejoejoe135 6 months ago
@joejoejoejoe135 Oh. My. God. You're right, I've never thought of that. It totally stacks! And that makes the Storm Leviathan's first attack 10 damage X2 (20) and then 12 damage x2 (24)=44. Wow. Never even realized that. Thanks so much for this comment. It's amazing!
Roxaboxen90 6 months ago
@thatguywithyourfry I don't want too much control, because in large multiplayer you quickly become a major target. And I am getting a Sphinx! Yay!
Roxaboxen90 7 months ago
@thatguywithyourfry How does he run it? Aggro or more like mine, with a balance and variety?
Roxaboxen90 7 months ago
I would remove the chancellor of the spires for a simic sky swallower.
Greenlexluther 7 months ago
@Greenlexluther But Sky Swallower is just a 6/6 flying trample shroud beast that freaks the board out. People A) are more likely to wrath if they see him around and B) By mid game, he is pointless since he can't be targeted by your own spells or abilities. The only pro I can see is that he a creature who will get pumped by Rafiq/Finest hour. But he does NOTHING on his own. Chancellor hits play and can do stuff, also can do it over and over as it comes in and out of play through recursion
Roxaboxen90 7 months ago
@Roxaboxen90 I would sooner have a large dumb beater than a 5/7 who will do nothing after it hits play, its comes into play is amazing but I really dont see it actuallty connecting for any damage.
Greenlexluther 7 months ago
@Greenlexluther And you see the Swallower doing that? Believe me, the chances that Swallower will do damage are minimum. AND, Chancellor can be recast and do stuff multiple times/rite of replication. Swallower is ALWAYS a dumb beater in this deck. Besides, I don't expect the Chancellor to do much damage. He is there for his ability, with the bonus that you get a 5/7 flier along with it. And he does something if he starts in your hand.
Roxaboxen90 7 months ago
Mediocre how? This is not a competitive/1v1 deck. The 7cc is not terrible to pay with the ramp you have, and the ability is really helpful, particularly late game. It also happens to be a 5/7 flying body.
Roxaboxen90 7 months ago
Chancellor of the Spires is so "meh" here. 7CC with 3U is really mediocre here. I'd heavily recommend finding something else to replace it.
ryfralic 7 months ago