just wondering are we allow to carry a non restrict firearm to hike or camp for self defense purpose from animals? I am from vancouver, i just ordered one 12.5" barrel from canadaammo
@tillaylomo what you choose to do with your guns is your own choice friendo, I'm sure telling a judge that some nobody on youtube told you what is and was not legal is a good enough defense.
pistol grip only makes it restricted not a prohib.you have one month to reclassify the firearm.They are coming out with a mag fed version of this beast.I should be getting my 8.5 this week.Been a long week preorder this beast months ago.I want to mount this like a masterkey under my ar or vz.for shits and giggles.
@rip2727 S84 of the criminal code reads, “prohibited firearm” means a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted, is less than 660 mm in length. “restricted firearm” means a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise. Key word there being "alteration." That's why i think adding the pistol grip makes it a prohib.
Yeah man federal safety courses and licensing system for the win. And no more registry soon as well, feels good up here. Hey Im thinking of picking up one of the mag loaded versions of these soon. How has yours been treating you since you bought it? Ive bought chinese guns before and dont want something thats gonna fail to fire- its gonna be an animal defense/hiking partner, prolly throw some decent wood on her..
the pistol grip would be illegal since your lowering the total length to under 26", making the gun a prohibited firearm even if factory assembled. the barrel length can be under 18", but the total length needs to be 26"+ inches.
@gimmethatglock I think what you misheard was that this firearm is made in China. It cannot be imported into the USA. If it WAS available, it would be subject to the NFA, and you would pay your tax stamp and register it, etc etc.
@gimmethatglock here in Canada there is no tax stamp requirement, all you need is a non-restricted PAL card and have it registered on purchase. the law allows someone to buy a factory made(not homemade) shotgun with a barrel less then 18.5" as long as the whole gun is 26+ inches long, if you make a shotgun's barrel less 18.5" long outside of a gun factory, it's then considered a prohibited shotgun and could land you in jail for 10+ years in federal prison. in the US they're considered SBS's.....
@gimmethatglock and thus require a tax stamp if it's legal at all to possess them in your state/municipality. the idea behind the law is to allow northern people the ability to carry a shot firearm for bear protection and easier food gathering.
i find it hilarious that Canada has some gun laws that are absolutely bat shit stupid... but on stuff like putting a stock on a pistol or a front vertical grip (from what ive been told) is completely legal which would make sense because it does nothing but make it slightly more accurate... where as in America (not including the communist states) if you put a fvg on a pistol it magically becomes a super killing machine that can spray baby skull seeking lazer grenades....
@vampire847 much of cdn gun law comes from the 1989 L'ecole Polytechnique massacre. These laws have done nothing to protect people as demonstrated in the 2006 Dawson College shootings. Criminals simply don't care about gun laws. That being said, a federal safety course & licensing system is one of the best ways of ensuring responsible firearm ownership and public safety.
@ScreamingReelsTV Well I do believe in background checks... and i think they should teach proper firearms safety in jr high and up... licensing however... i think is a bad idea... just like a national firearms registry... now if its licenses to conceal carry and open carry thats different.. those i like but should be left in the hands of the local cities NOT federal government...
how much with shipping and all that was required to get her to your door? if you don't mind me asking. just curious, I have an R870 with a dlask 12 inch barrel. so you can imagine how expensive that was.
do you guys have all those sbs and sbr laws in canida or can you just go out and buy a 12" shotgun barrel at your locall gun store as same as a regular barrel. also how strict are your gun laws there. are they less or more strict the lets say texas USA "my homestate"
@navysealinsane Gun law in Canada is simple, but complicated. There are three classes of firearms: non-restricted, restricted, and prohibited firearms. This shotgun is non-restricted. Each class is defined by certain peramiters. Semi-auto rifles are limited to 5 rounds. But if the barrel is <18.5" long it is restricted. Handguns are restricted but any with barrels <4" are prohibited. There is also a list of prohibted firearms.To own a restricted firearm, you need a restricted license.
@ScreamingReelsTV I own a Kimber Ultra Carry II, this is a 3 inch barreled officer sized 1911. If I was to move to Canada, would there be a 'surrender' involved if I was to bring it? Would the Canadian government help me in keeping the pistol?
@navysealinsane Just a note about the 12" barrels, yes we can just walk in and buy one the same as a regular barrel. But what is silly is if you cut an existing barrel bellow 18.5 its a prohibited device and will land you in the big house. It has to come from the factory that way. Also this gun has to be over 26" in length so if he put the pistol grip on he has to call the CFC and change the classification. I have the same one they are lots of fun.
I was thinking of getting the exactly the same model, but I was a little concerned about to the velocity that you'd get with only an 8" barrel. Have you ever had it chronographed? Thanks.
@ThomasCrown79 I do not have access to a chronograph, but i would imagine the gun cannot create the pressure needed to really push heavy slugs out at high velocity. Would be interesting to know.
@vb6041 this firearm is only 'illegal' in the states because its made in china. The Serbu Super Shorty is a 8" barreled 12guage shot gun based on the remington870 which is available in the US. Depending on the local laws.
that is really cool
makeuplover1935 2 weeks ago
are these legal in cali
Dubswitch 3 weeks ago
@Dubswitch how would i know what is legal and not legal in california?
ScreamingReelsTV 3 weeks ago
just wondering are we allow to carry a non restrict firearm to hike or camp for self defense purpose from animals? I am from vancouver, i just ordered one 12.5" barrel from canadaammo
tillaylomo 4 weeks ago
@tillaylomo what you choose to do with your guns is your own choice friendo, I'm sure telling a judge that some nobody on youtube told you what is and was not legal is a good enough defense.
ScreamingReelsTV 3 weeks ago
So much history searching required to find this again -.-
Carbide195 1 month ago
Pistol grip hmmmmm. Just discretely throw that off to the side lol
zulu547 2 months ago
pistol grip only makes it restricted not a prohib.you have one month to reclassify the firearm.They are coming out with a mag fed version of this beast.I should be getting my 8.5 this week.Been a long week preorder this beast months ago.I want to mount this like a masterkey under my ar or vz.for shits and giggles.
rip2727 2 months ago
@rip2727 S84 of the criminal code reads, “prohibited firearm” means a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted, is less than 660 mm in length. “restricted firearm” means a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise. Key word there being "alteration." That's why i think adding the pistol grip makes it a prohib.
ScreamingReelsTV 2 months ago
Canada ammo has them in stock, just ordered mine! free shipping and about $400 bucks.
zulu547 2 months ago
Yeah man federal safety courses and licensing system for the win. And no more registry soon as well, feels good up here. Hey Im thinking of picking up one of the mag loaded versions of these soon. How has yours been treating you since you bought it? Ive bought chinese guns before and dont want something thats gonna fail to fire- its gonna be an animal defense/hiking partner, prolly throw some decent wood on her..
DeathscytheBleh 2 months ago
ACCURACY/ PATTERN TEST?:)
SteviePeeOutDoorLife 5 months ago
you should get a +1 or +2 tube extension it wouldent matter if your going hiking with it if it looks funny
MrLolerblader 5 months ago
the pistol grip would be illegal since your lowering the total length to under 26", making the gun a prohibited firearm even if factory assembled. the barrel length can be under 18", but the total length needs to be 26"+ inches.
flamedrag18 7 months ago
All I wanna know is how much? Oh and you mentioned no tax stamp? Or did I hear you wrong
gimmethatglock 8 months ago
@gimmethatglock I think what you misheard was that this firearm is made in China. It cannot be imported into the USA. If it WAS available, it would be subject to the NFA, and you would pay your tax stamp and register it, etc etc.
ScreamingReelsTV 8 months ago
@gimmethatglock here in Canada there is no tax stamp requirement, all you need is a non-restricted PAL card and have it registered on purchase. the law allows someone to buy a factory made(not homemade) shotgun with a barrel less then 18.5" as long as the whole gun is 26+ inches long, if you make a shotgun's barrel less 18.5" long outside of a gun factory, it's then considered a prohibited shotgun and could land you in jail for 10+ years in federal prison. in the US they're considered SBS's.....
flamedrag18 7 months ago
@gimmethatglock and thus require a tax stamp if it's legal at all to possess them in your state/municipality. the idea behind the law is to allow northern people the ability to carry a shot firearm for bear protection and easier food gathering.
flamedrag18 7 months ago
what type of victorianox is that knife?
zhagray 10 months ago
i find it hilarious that Canada has some gun laws that are absolutely bat shit stupid... but on stuff like putting a stock on a pistol or a front vertical grip (from what ive been told) is completely legal which would make sense because it does nothing but make it slightly more accurate... where as in America (not including the communist states) if you put a fvg on a pistol it magically becomes a super killing machine that can spray baby skull seeking lazer grenades....
vampire847 11 months ago
@vampire847 much of cdn gun law comes from the 1989 L'ecole Polytechnique massacre. These laws have done nothing to protect people as demonstrated in the 2006 Dawson College shootings. Criminals simply don't care about gun laws. That being said, a federal safety course & licensing system is one of the best ways of ensuring responsible firearm ownership and public safety.
ScreamingReelsTV 11 months ago 4
@ScreamingReelsTV Well I do believe in background checks... and i think they should teach proper firearms safety in jr high and up... licensing however... i think is a bad idea... just like a national firearms registry... now if its licenses to conceal carry and open carry thats different.. those i like but should be left in the hands of the local cities NOT federal government...
vampire847 11 months ago
@ScreamingReelsTV I totally support the safety courses and tests but I have mixed feelings about the licensing system.
mrrobotica 10 months ago
ScreamingReelsTV - I visited CanadaAmmo but the 8.5 isnt avail until summer 2011, did you wait long? You know if I can pre-pay for one?
briandbrian 11 months ago
nice shotgun! how does it shoot??
dssin 1 year ago
how much with shipping and all that was required to get her to your door? if you don't mind me asking. just curious, I have an R870 with a dlask 12 inch barrel. so you can imagine how expensive that was.
ChromeArty 1 year ago
Can you lug this on any hiking trail? Or do some hiking trails restrict them?
brentrnelson 1 year ago
As soon as the long gun registry is done for, this will be on my doorstep ASAP.
MegaMonkeyChunk 1 year ago
do you guys have all those sbs and sbr laws in canida or can you just go out and buy a 12" shotgun barrel at your locall gun store as same as a regular barrel. also how strict are your gun laws there. are they less or more strict the lets say texas USA "my homestate"
navysealinsane 1 year ago
@navysealinsane Gun law in Canada is simple, but complicated. There are three classes of firearms: non-restricted, restricted, and prohibited firearms. This shotgun is non-restricted. Each class is defined by certain peramiters. Semi-auto rifles are limited to 5 rounds. But if the barrel is <18.5" long it is restricted. Handguns are restricted but any with barrels <4" are prohibited. There is also a list of prohibted firearms.To own a restricted firearm, you need a restricted license.
ScreamingReelsTV 1 year ago
@ScreamingReelsTV I own a Kimber Ultra Carry II, this is a 3 inch barreled officer sized 1911. If I was to move to Canada, would there be a 'surrender' involved if I was to bring it? Would the Canadian government help me in keeping the pistol?
Reynard13Fuchs 5 months ago
@ScreamingReelsTV also, Victorinox Pioneer FTW!
Reynard13Fuchs 5 months ago
@navysealinsane Just a note about the 12" barrels, yes we can just walk in and buy one the same as a regular barrel. But what is silly is if you cut an existing barrel bellow 18.5 its a prohibited device and will land you in the big house. It has to come from the factory that way. Also this gun has to be over 26" in length so if he put the pistol grip on he has to call the CFC and change the classification. I have the same one they are lots of fun.
G50Mrvl 1 year ago
I was thinking of getting the exactly the same model, but I was a little concerned about to the velocity that you'd get with only an 8" barrel. Have you ever had it chronographed? Thanks.
ThomasCrown79 1 year ago
@ThomasCrown79 I do not have access to a chronograph, but i would imagine the gun cannot create the pressure needed to really push heavy slugs out at high velocity. Would be interesting to know.
ScreamingReelsTV 1 year ago
Illegal in the states, legal in Canada. Ironic isn't it.
vb6041 1 year ago
@vb6041 this firearm is only 'illegal' in the states because its made in china. The Serbu Super Shorty is a 8" barreled 12guage shot gun based on the remington870 which is available in the US. Depending on the local laws.
ScreamingReelsTV 1 year ago
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davbeel 1 year ago
Pistol grip included? awesome
MultiCamo 1 year ago
Thanks for this video! It sounds like these chinese guns aren't too bad after all!
Goatlips54 1 year ago
Nice bear gun, if they come out with a mag fed in this I will buy a few.
Ignerence 1 year ago
@Ignerence They do have Mag fed versions, but they're longer.
MrColdghost 1 year ago
great unboxing dude, thanks for the vid.
RFjunk 1 year ago
Good video unboxing and that shotgun looks sweet , Planning on buying it in the near future ..
ThePHENOMZ24 1 year ago