"the evidence is all around you, everywhere....simple as that really. "
Yet I, nor any other reputable health organization in the world sees it. Fancy that. Let's be clear here. You're not just saying that 1 medical org or 1 gov't is deliberately lying but ALL OF THEM. That's quite a conspiracy theory. & your evidence for these wild & potentially libelous accusations? You have none bc your gov't ate your homework. Your agenda is to stick to your vaccine denialist ideology no matter what.
@mjr256 It might help to reply to me instead of just post your inflated ego without cause. I came to recollect DNVC's name, and realised you had commented. I haven't had Influenza (influence..,get it?) for years and I have never had a "flu" shot my 29 years. You can believe what you like about me and try and engage me in silly little faceless fights with pathetic insults, that's fine, you and everybody that agrees with you can take it. Cheers...To your health!!!
MY INFLATED EGO? Your pointing at a mirror, dude. I'm not the one claiming expertise here. YOU ARE. More than that, you're at best claiming special knowledge greater than that of every relevant expert in the world and at worst, calling every every relevant expert in the world a flat-out liar. Either way, it's quite an extraordinary claim to make for any1 & even more extraordinary coming from some1 demonstrating no actual medical training of any kind.
Your failure to see the fallacious logic in your argument that not having a flu vaccine should, if the science is correct, guarantee infection is staggering. For hundreds of thousands of years, the species survived the flu w/o vaccines. No1 denies that. But since the introduction of flu vaccines & modern medicine, flu infection & mortality has dramatically declined in those regions most protected, enhanced by herd immunity. The medical literature is extensive & more than compelling.
Unfortunately, when it comes to vaccines, choosing not to vaccinate doesn't just affect you but also puts at risk others who choose not to vaccinate, those w/ special health conditions preventing them from vaccinating even if they wanted to & even vaccinated populations bc, like condoms, vaccines aren't 100% effective. In 2010 alone 5 Calif. infants under 3-months died of the easily preventable pertussis bc those around them weren't vaccinated. So did 4-week-old Dana McCaffery.
@mjr256 i was thinking last night i honestly don't personally know anybody who has had "flu". A healthy lifestyle and eating correctly are the key. Through all of this you seem to be forgetting that the Pandemrix vaccine certainly has harmful adjuvants in it. I refuse to put anything synthetic into my system, that even goes for MSG in crisps, aspartame in diet crap and fluoride in water. There have been NO health scares whatsoever in my immediate family or friends. Not broke don't try and fix it
Healthy eating is great but it doesn't prevent flu. You seem to think the efficacy of the flu vaccine is just some crazy idea medical experts made up out of whole cloth. It's not. It's empirically demonstrated in countless carefully controlled studies. If you type "flu vaccine efficacy" into Pubmed, you get 1255 entries. And that's not even every study that's been done on the issue. Most of the things you oppose have no proven negative effects. It's not science; it's superstition
@mjr256 ....and it isn't superstition, I'm relying on me to make my decisions and not just entrust my life and my health to a faceless organization. The WHO's activities in themselves are extremely suspicious and have been for years No matter what you say it's not going to convince me to take it or that it's safe. I notice you still didn't acknowledge the Pandemrix report as evidence of extremely harmful chemicals, some of which have only 1 function, such as Octoxynol 9 (or 10) cont...
In other words, you're claiming special knowledge greater than that of all the relevant experts in the world because despite their enormous transparency in this information age, you think they're "faceless." If you're so distrustful of experts, you might as well give up eating altogether...as WHO endorses that too. Then maybe deny evolution, gravity, math & everything that THE MAN says is true.
"No matter what you say it's not going to convince me"
@mjr256 not claiming any sort of special knowledge, I just posted facts. And BTW you're doing the exact same thing o_0 you're just pretty much asleep or working for pharma. vaccine ingredient Octoxynol10 Google it..... and once again, why 666 upload views with no actual videos>>>>??????? "Atheism is next to Satanism"
Facts? Nope. Just conclusions that quite apparently no reputable health organization on the entire planet agrees with you on. But then again, that must be because they're all in on the evil conspiracy. We're done. As you said, your hubris is too great to ever accept the possibility that you're wrong, so you're wasting my time.
@mjr256 cont.......Octoxynol 9 (or10) typically contain traces of the toxins ethylene oxide, dioxane, C9 phenols, or glycol ether. These detergents and emulsifiers promote tumors and cause cells to leak or explode by weakening their walls, with no mechanism for regulating destructive activity. Detergents are used extensively in cell research precisely because of their ability to break cells open for further analysis. This catastrophically mimics the membrane attack complex. W.A.V.E.
@mjr256 Also an ingredient in Tamiflu, Sodium benzoate, when combined with absorbic acid (vitamin C), can form benzene, a known carcinogen.
Propylene glycol is used as a food-grade antifreeze and is the primary ingredient of the paint inside a paintball, it has been deemed "safe" by the the FDA but so has aspartame so that doesn't tell you anything.
@mjr256 and this is from the PDF report on the Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine, Manufactured by Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Ltd. "WARNINGS AND PRECAUTIONS: If Guillain-Barré syndrome has occurred within 6 weeks of receipt of prior influenza vaccine, the decision to give Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be based on careful consideration of the potential benefits and risks. (5.1)" More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu. GBS attacks the cont...
The only time GBS was ever even linked to a vaccine was the 70's H1N1 vaccine when there was a particularly high rate of it & even then no causal relationship was proven. But it was deemed necessary to caution people that it was a possibility, even if a 1 in a million chance. The number of reported GBS cases from the recent H1N1 vaccine = zero. Further GBS is highly treatable; death from flu is not. Vaccines are safer than seatbelts, airbags & condoms combined.
@mjr256 I'm telling you what's in the Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited BLA 1750 from September 2009. If they are worried about it in any way then it makes me suspicious. And healthy eating is extremely beneficial for preventing "flu" & most illness because it's obviously beneficial to your immune system. I think the focus should be put on ensuring people eat healthy instead of being forced to eat GM foods where the important enzymes are removed resulting in vitamin/protein deficiency.
They HAVE to be worried about any potential health issue because, like any company, they want to mitigate the amount of damages they may have to pay if a problem does arrive. Any company that doesn't bother w/ a quality control dept. or worry about any defects & safety issues until a problem gets so large it can't be ignored will be in for a rude awakening (see: Toyota & BP). The goal of any business hoping to be successful is to catch issues BEFORE they become serious problems.
Not only is quality control not suspicious or incriminating but it's a good thing. It doesn't just protect the manufacturer from being wiped out by every frivolous tort claim brought against them but it protects the public from being harmed in the first place. No company benefits from selling a harmful product. Manufacturers have more incentive than any1 to be the 1st to know their product is dangerous so that they can fix the defect before becoming the next Toyota or BP.
@mjr256 So, you're telling me that they HAVE to be worried and in that sense we shouldn't be??...AND that because they have to safeguard their profits they HAVE to tell you the possible and probable illnesses associated with the numerous dangerous chemicals in the vaccine/s? Once again you have deliberately moved away from the point I was making, &once again your statements are of no substance. Shill comes to mind here, again! Why have you got 666 upload views & no vids? Octoxynol 10, Google it.
Yes, companies have to keep on top of potential problems that could lead to their destruction. That's why you can contact virtually any manufacturing company in the world and ask to speak w/ their quality control dept or their complaint dept, etc. But no product is 100% safe, nor does any1 claim otherwise. That's an unrealistic expectation.
We even have a strict liability area of law devoted to handling particular necessary industries that will inevitably cause damages even if no actual negligence occurred. It's in manufacturers' best interests to ensure their product is reasonably safe.
There were 33,963 car-related deaths in the U.S. in 2009 alone, far greater than vaccine deaths combined over the course of decades. Should we all stop driving cars? Or just maybe we can agree some activities are worth some mild risk?
@mjr256 I point you to Bayer, the bastards that dumped the HIV vaccine in developing countries, assigned mainly to haemophiliacs to make profit??????????????????? GET REAL!
"I notice you still didn't acknowledge the Pandemrix report as evidence of extremely harmful chemicals"
You're already expressly stated that you reject inconvenient facts & that no evidence, no matter how compelling, will ever convince you that you're wrong. So what would motivate me to want to continue to waste my time trying to reason w/ you? If no meeting of the minds is possible, this is just an exercise in futility.
You can eat whatever you want; no1 is forcing you to eat GM food. I'm sorry you're so phobic of GM foods but there's no actual basis for these fears outside of the marketing dept's of those shilling far pricier "organic" alternatives. GM foods are scientifically proven to be at least as healthy as "organic," plus w/o them a 3rd of the world WILL in fact starve to death. Organic farming is nice but most of the world simply doesn’t have that option because it'd damned expensive.
@mjr256 cont lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal. Concerns have constantly been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, are unknown.
So you're defense is that you're just a troll. Well, I agree. But you forgot to quote all those comments that clarify your position:
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"Peace will never come until we get these vile monsters at the big pharmaceuticals to STOP and weigh the consequences - and indeed pay the damages for the heartache they've caused and the souls they've condemned with their rampant, egocentric and criminally insane behaviour. "
Like any other company, they DO pay out damages when their products cause injury
"Disgusting genocidal lunatics - and they've taken over the asylum. How the hell did we ever sink this low as a society? People - we HAVE to fight back against this lunacy. Ms Lowe Fisher is a hero and we should all support her work and spread this information."
"Ms Loe Fisher has not said anything untrue or badly researched in this video"
She absolutely has.
I could keep going quoting comments you've made that you now pretend don't exist but I think I've made my point.
@mjr256 Since you have banned me from posting comments on your wall about the proof of ingredients such as Octoxynol 10, Squalene, Thiomersal etc in the vaccines, it's nice to get the opportunity to tell here. First of all one of the main vaccines Pandemrix was originally authorised under ‘exceptional circumstances’, because, for scientific reasons, limited information was available at the time of approval. Indicating severe lack of testing. Secondly, for obvious reasons I cant cont...
3. Thimerosal is used in very few U.S. vaccines, none given to young children
4. Pandemrix is used in Europe. If you object to it, take it up European health authorities.
5. Pandemrix did indeed go through clinical trials w/ the H5N1 strain in Belgium & 11 other countries. This is all added to the thousands of clinical trials already performed on the general flu vaccine.
@mjr256 Look, I'm not going to argue with you. Any Google search of either "squalene/thiomersal in american vaccines" will uncover all the reports and articles you or anybody else needs. The fact of the matter is the vaccines not necessary and contain extremely dangerous chemicals which have been proven to have extremely severe long term side affects. The evidence is everywhere.
You're not going to argue w/ me bc your idea of research is Google & you've got no actual substantive medical literature backing up your long debunked assertions. The fact is no credible health authority agrees w/ you & vaccines are necessary if one's goal is to prevent as many infections & deaths from the diseases the vaccines prevent. Vaccines have proven more than reasonably safe & you might as well condemn airbags, which cause far more serious injuries than vaccines.
@mjr256 The FDA has been reviewing reports of abnormal behavior and other brain effects in more than 1,800 children who had taken the flu medicine Tamiflu. The symptoms have included convulsions, delirium or delusions, and in Japan, five deaths have been reported in children under 16 as a result of neurological or psychiatric problems.There have also been nine deaths among older teens and adults, attributed to neuropsychiatric problems or brain infections.
I'd like to know your source for this1,800 reported "brain effects" claim. I'd also like to know why whenever I cite the FDA, that data is immediately dismissed as part of the evil conspiracy & yet when you cite FDA statistics to further your own agenda, then the FDA is suddenly reliable. Seems kinda inconsistent to me. Then I'd like to know if you think seat belts or coconuts have caused more than 14 deaths of young children ever. If so why aren't you crusading against them too?
If this is your great source of medical info, I'm horribly unimpressed. What makes you think some random website created by a non-medical authority selling a rival product to medicine is a reliable source of medical information?
What makes Shirley an unimpeachable source? If the only reason is that she confirms your bias, that's not a legitimate reason. It's like accepting Bill Gates' word that Mac sucks. & Pubmed lists not a single publication by Shirley Lipschutz-Robinson.
@mjr256 the evidence is all around you, everywhere.... simple as that really. It doesn't surprise me that a med agency /gvmnt hasn't come out and made a full blatant admission into the poisons that are in the vaccines, it doesn't strike me as good PR, this is why the alternative media is here. Admittedly, being from UK, I focused on Pandemrix first...seems we have the very worst of a very bad lot. My only "agenda" is to make people think and ask questions about what goes into their body.
@mjr256 paste the link here but I seriously urge you, and anybody else who wants confirmation from a reputable organisation, to Google "Pandemrix EMA Report", it will be the first site to show at the top. It's a PDF report from the European Medicines Agency that highlights the ingredients on page 12. I suggest you do yourself a favour and read it.
Peace will never come until we get these vile monsters at the big pharmaceuticals to STOP and weigh the consequences - and indeed pay the damages for the heartache they've caused and the souls they've condemned with their rampant, egocentric and criminally insane behaviour. Smith.
Disgusting genocidal lunatics - and they've taken over the asylum. How the hell did we ever sink this low as a society? People - we HAVE to fight back against this lunacy. Ms Lowe Fisher is a hero and we should all support her work and spread this information.
I created a facebook fan page that promotes idea of Twins for vaccine safety, simply Identical twins get vaccines at staggered intervals, or one gets a shot and other doesn't, simply go to facebook and search for twins for vaccine safety
Before making such irresponsible public pronoucements, Ms. Fisher should volunteer her own body and the bodies of her children to be infected by deadly vaccine-preventable diseases they're not vaccinated against. I think she'd be an instant convert to more responsible talk, provided she survives that is.
@mjr256 you're mistaken. Ms Loe Fisher has not said anything untrue or badly researched in this video you hvae commented on. Check the facts and come back. Which fact did you prove untrue of what she's said? Nobody said diseases are not bad. The pharmaceutical industry is out of control & needs regulating and IS killing people. Case in point, Ms Loe Fisher lost her own son to a dodgy vaccine. Think about what YOU'RE saying before you make slanderous comments about a very brave lady. Smith.
I have checked my facts & she's dead wrong on every point. Not only does every single reputable medical organization in the world disagree w/ her & have the evidence to support them but her claims have even had their days in court & lost miserably. & instead of humbly accepting she may be wrong she's proven time & time again that no evidence will ever change her mind & is happy slandering people w/ no evidence to back up her conspiracy. This shows nothing but her own hubris.
No1 claims vaccines are 100% safe all the time just like no1 claims cars, seat belts, airbags, or condoms are 100% safe. & yet all 4 items I've mentioned are far more dangerous than vaccines. But because Fisher's kid may or may not have been a very rare victim of serious injury from a vaccine, she will say anything to condemn them in the name of the children. But what about kids like 4-week-old Dana McCaffery or 5-year-old Jack Piper who were victims of her ideology? Where's the outrage?
& to respond to your post on my Wall, my position is that of every reputable medical organization in the world. The day you can provide sufficient evidence that I'm wrong, I'll happily admit as much as you accept your Nobel Prize. Until then, I'm unimpressed by your evidence-free claims of the evils of vaccines.
Just bc you credulously accept the claims of folks like Fisher who reinforce your ideology that doesn't mean every1 else blindly accepts authority. I understand the science. If you did, you'd be able to argue the actual science instead of accusing critics of being ignorant. I find it ironic that you accuse me of lacking humility when you declare yourself a leading expert on vaccines w/a any medical training or practice. What it would take to ever convince you that you're wrong?
@mjr256 There is no talking to ppl like you. You've made a lot of sassumptions about me that r not true without having a clue what I do and don't know or believe. And I don't know what it is about the Nobel Prize but you keep bringing it up. I myself don't rate it and have no need for accolades of any type. I love humanity and know what I know based upon my own experiences and research. I would happily present my beliefs (and frequently do) to non-hostile debators here on yt much can be learned
I've made no assumptions of any kind. Everything I've said is backed by mountains of evidence & the opinions of every reputable medical organization in the world. Rather, it's individuals like yourself who have an emotional commitment to a particular ideology, apply confirmation bias, make assertions not backed by credible evidence, arrogantly declare themselves experts despite scientific ignorance & demonstrate an unwillingness to change their mind who cannot be reasoned w/
I on the other hand would happily change my mind & admit to being wrong if provided w/ credible, empirical evidence. No compelling case has been made. And not only have you & Ms. Fisher in particular not presented a compelling case but you've yet to even address the science at all. I respond to evidence not excuses like "My government ate my homework, blah, blah, blah." I'm unimpressed by such transparent BS tactics. The invisible & the non-existent look remarkably similar.
@mjr256 HI - this is tedious. OK. 1 you didn't read my posy properly I said you made assumptions about ME and MY (background/ideals/beliefs)... I only became involved because u were rude to this lady. 2, you HAVE made assumptions... and now you'fre at it again: I quote: "...Fisher who reinforce YOUR ideology"... "accusing critics of being ignorant" ... etc there are loads of examples. YOU DON'T KNOW ME. I debate issues all the time with ppl to whom I have opposing views. It's very educational
@mjr256 continued: It's enjoyable / valuable only because nobody goes personal and says things like: "you declare yourself a leading expert on..." and "I on the other hand would happily admit ..nobel prize ... blah blah" (pomposity beyond belief) I change my mind about issues every day right here on yt. I have as friends many ppl with opposing views and value their views and contributions immensely and NEVER insult or belittle them.
@mjr256 continued: you don't know how much or how little I've looked at any topic from a few lines on a yt comment page. I waded in 2 defend someone who is saying their piece with best motivation. I have worries about the motivation of your beloved 'reputable companies'. Are the scientists at BP some of your heros that u would have us doff our cap to without question? Anyway I really am done with this. Funny thing is you haven't learned anything about my experiences, too busy assuming & fencing.
Paul Offit is a huge idiot. He once said that vitamins were more dangerous than vaccines. He also said that a child could be injected with 10,000 vaccines at once without any risks. Anybody who believes that man should have their brain removed.
@FreeMindNews Before making such irresponsible public pronoucements, Offit should volunteer his own body as an example of the benign effects of 10,000 vaccines at once. I think he'd be an instant convert to more responsible talk.
@FreeMindNews: Anyone who believes that BS, has ALREADY had their brain removed! I've been taking vitamins for about 40 of my 60 years. I won't go near any poison vaccine!
This wins the prize for most idiotic video I've seen all week. It's like watching Sarah Palin giving a physics lecture. It must really kill Barbie that the judge threw out her frivolous lawsuit against Paul Offit because it's not a crime to call a liar a liar.
BTW if anyone here is from MURRIETA area in CALIFORNIA. A young boy is missing, ADRIAN CALLEROS 13 YRS OLD WAS LAST SEEN IN MURRIETA CALIFORNIA AREA on his skateboard 6th April 2010. Or if you do know someone in that area? Could you please, forward this message onto them, thanks.
Barbara and the team at NVIC I think the work that you all do is brilliant. I have reuploaded your video and it is number 1 in News and Politics UK :)
Why isn't this on the mainstream news...oh yes that's right who buys ads during those time slots. Why don't MD's warn us about this...oh yes that's right who subsidizes their education.
GSK is already under US Congressional investigation for withholding research that showed their diabetes drug caused heart attacks. Why is the drug still on the market?
"the evidence is all around you, everywhere....simple as that really. "
Yet I, nor any other reputable health organization in the world sees it. Fancy that. Let's be clear here. You're not just saying that 1 medical org or 1 gov't is deliberately lying but ALL OF THEM. That's quite a conspiracy theory. & your evidence for these wild & potentially libelous accusations? You have none bc your gov't ate your homework. Your agenda is to stick to your vaccine denialist ideology no matter what.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 It might help to reply to me instead of just post your inflated ego without cause. I came to recollect DNVC's name, and realised you had commented. I haven't had Influenza (influence..,get it?) for years and I have never had a "flu" shot my 29 years. You can believe what you like about me and try and engage me in silly little faceless fights with pathetic insults, that's fine, you and everybody that agrees with you can take it. Cheers...To your health!!!
Theitisme400 1 year ago
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MY INFLATED EGO? Your pointing at a mirror, dude. I'm not the one claiming expertise here. YOU ARE. More than that, you're at best claiming special knowledge greater than that of every relevant expert in the world and at worst, calling every every relevant expert in the world a flat-out liar. Either way, it's quite an extraordinary claim to make for any1 & even more extraordinary coming from some1 demonstrating no actual medical training of any kind.
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mjr256 1 year ago
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Your failure to see the fallacious logic in your argument that not having a flu vaccine should, if the science is correct, guarantee infection is staggering. For hundreds of thousands of years, the species survived the flu w/o vaccines. No1 denies that. But since the introduction of flu vaccines & modern medicine, flu infection & mortality has dramatically declined in those regions most protected, enhanced by herd immunity. The medical literature is extensive & more than compelling.
mjr256 1 year ago
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@mjr256 I'll take my chances thanks, although I am perplexed at your concern.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@mjr256 I'll take my chances thanks, although I perplexed at your concern.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
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Unfortunately, when it comes to vaccines, choosing not to vaccinate doesn't just affect you but also puts at risk others who choose not to vaccinate, those w/ special health conditions preventing them from vaccinating even if they wanted to & even vaccinated populations bc, like condoms, vaccines aren't 100% effective. In 2010 alone 5 Calif. infants under 3-months died of the easily preventable pertussis bc those around them weren't vaccinated. So did 4-week-old Dana McCaffery.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 i was thinking last night i honestly don't personally know anybody who has had "flu". A healthy lifestyle and eating correctly are the key. Through all of this you seem to be forgetting that the Pandemrix vaccine certainly has harmful adjuvants in it. I refuse to put anything synthetic into my system, that even goes for MSG in crisps, aspartame in diet crap and fluoride in water. There have been NO health scares whatsoever in my immediate family or friends. Not broke don't try and fix it
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
Healthy eating is great but it doesn't prevent flu. You seem to think the efficacy of the flu vaccine is just some crazy idea medical experts made up out of whole cloth. It's not. It's empirically demonstrated in countless carefully controlled studies. If you type "flu vaccine efficacy" into Pubmed, you get 1255 entries. And that's not even every study that's been done on the issue. Most of the things you oppose have no proven negative effects. It's not science; it's superstition
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 ....and it isn't superstition, I'm relying on me to make my decisions and not just entrust my life and my health to a faceless organization. The WHO's activities in themselves are extremely suspicious and have been for years No matter what you say it's not going to convince me to take it or that it's safe. I notice you still didn't acknowledge the Pandemrix report as evidence of extremely harmful chemicals, some of which have only 1 function, such as Octoxynol 9 (or 10) cont...
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
In other words, you're claiming special knowledge greater than that of all the relevant experts in the world because despite their enormous transparency in this information age, you think they're "faceless." If you're so distrustful of experts, you might as well give up eating altogether...as WHO endorses that too. Then maybe deny evolution, gravity, math & everything that THE MAN says is true.
"No matter what you say it's not going to convince me"
Spoken like a true fanatic.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 not claiming any sort of special knowledge, I just posted facts. And BTW you're doing the exact same thing o_0 you're just pretty much asleep or working for pharma. vaccine ingredient Octoxynol10 Google it..... and once again, why 666 upload views with no actual videos>>>>??????? "Atheism is next to Satanism"
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
Facts? Nope. Just conclusions that quite apparently no reputable health organization on the entire planet agrees with you on. But then again, that must be because they're all in on the evil conspiracy. We're done. As you said, your hubris is too great to ever accept the possibility that you're wrong, so you're wasting my time.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 cont.......Octoxynol 9 (or10) typically contain traces of the toxins ethylene oxide, dioxane, C9 phenols, or glycol ether. These detergents and emulsifiers promote tumors and cause cells to leak or explode by weakening their walls, with no mechanism for regulating destructive activity. Detergents are used extensively in cell research precisely because of their ability to break cells open for further analysis. This catastrophically mimics the membrane attack complex. W.A.V.E.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@mjr256 Also an ingredient in Tamiflu, Sodium benzoate, when combined with absorbic acid (vitamin C), can form benzene, a known carcinogen.
Propylene glycol is used as a food-grade antifreeze and is the primary ingredient of the paint inside a paintball, it has been deemed "safe" by the the FDA but so has aspartame so that doesn't tell you anything.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@mjr256 and this is from the PDF report on the Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine, Manufactured by Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Ltd. "WARNINGS AND PRECAUTIONS: If Guillain-Barré syndrome has occurred within 6 weeks of receipt of prior influenza vaccine, the decision to give Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be based on careful consideration of the potential benefits and risks. (5.1)" More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu. GBS attacks the cont...
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
The only time GBS was ever even linked to a vaccine was the 70's H1N1 vaccine when there was a particularly high rate of it & even then no causal relationship was proven. But it was deemed necessary to caution people that it was a possibility, even if a 1 in a million chance. The number of reported GBS cases from the recent H1N1 vaccine = zero. Further GBS is highly treatable; death from flu is not. Vaccines are safer than seatbelts, airbags & condoms combined.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 I'm telling you what's in the Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited BLA 1750 from September 2009. If they are worried about it in any way then it makes me suspicious. And healthy eating is extremely beneficial for preventing "flu" & most illness because it's obviously beneficial to your immune system. I think the focus should be put on ensuring people eat healthy instead of being forced to eat GM foods where the important enzymes are removed resulting in vitamin/protein deficiency.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
They HAVE to be worried about any potential health issue because, like any company, they want to mitigate the amount of damages they may have to pay if a problem does arrive. Any company that doesn't bother w/ a quality control dept. or worry about any defects & safety issues until a problem gets so large it can't be ignored will be in for a rude awakening (see: Toyota & BP). The goal of any business hoping to be successful is to catch issues BEFORE they become serious problems.
mjr256 1 year ago
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Not only is quality control not suspicious or incriminating but it's a good thing. It doesn't just protect the manufacturer from being wiped out by every frivolous tort claim brought against them but it protects the public from being harmed in the first place. No company benefits from selling a harmful product. Manufacturers have more incentive than any1 to be the 1st to know their product is dangerous so that they can fix the defect before becoming the next Toyota or BP.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 So, you're telling me that they HAVE to be worried and in that sense we shouldn't be??...AND that because they have to safeguard their profits they HAVE to tell you the possible and probable illnesses associated with the numerous dangerous chemicals in the vaccine/s? Once again you have deliberately moved away from the point I was making, &once again your statements are of no substance. Shill comes to mind here, again! Why have you got 666 upload views & no vids? Octoxynol 10, Google it.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
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Yes, companies have to keep on top of potential problems that could lead to their destruction. That's why you can contact virtually any manufacturing company in the world and ask to speak w/ their quality control dept or their complaint dept, etc. But no product is 100% safe, nor does any1 claim otherwise. That's an unrealistic expectation.
mjr256 1 year ago
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We even have a strict liability area of law devoted to handling particular necessary industries that will inevitably cause damages even if no actual negligence occurred. It's in manufacturers' best interests to ensure their product is reasonably safe.
There were 33,963 car-related deaths in the U.S. in 2009 alone, far greater than vaccine deaths combined over the course of decades. Should we all stop driving cars? Or just maybe we can agree some activities are worth some mild risk?
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 I point you to Bayer, the bastards that dumped the HIV vaccine in developing countries, assigned mainly to haemophiliacs to make profit??????????????????? GET REAL!
Theitisme400 1 year ago
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Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400 **** vaccine contaminated with HIV "virus" !!
/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs
Theitisme400 1 year ago
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"I notice you still didn't acknowledge the Pandemrix report as evidence of extremely harmful chemicals"
You're already expressly stated that you reject inconvenient facts & that no evidence, no matter how compelling, will ever convince you that you're wrong. So what would motivate me to want to continue to waste my time trying to reason w/ you? If no meeting of the minds is possible, this is just an exercise in futility.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 not at all, my main "agenda" as you would put it, is to try to make people think for themselves, and PPL I URGE YOU TO. Goodbye mrj256.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
You can eat whatever you want; no1 is forcing you to eat GM food. I'm sorry you're so phobic of GM foods but there's no actual basis for these fears outside of the marketing dept's of those shilling far pricier "organic" alternatives. GM foods are scientifically proven to be at least as healthy as "organic," plus w/o them a 3rd of the world WILL in fact starve to death. Organic farming is nice but most of the world simply doesn’t have that option because it'd damned expensive.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 Absolute rubbish, I'm done with you. I hope they are paying you well for your soul.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
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Theitisme400 1 year ago
@mjr256 cont lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal. Concerns have constantly been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, are unknown.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@mjr256 .....and on an unrelated matter why do you have 666 upload views with no uploads on you channel?
Theitisme400 1 year ago
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So you're defense is that you're just a troll. Well, I agree. But you forgot to quote all those comments that clarify your position:
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"Peace will never come until we get these vile monsters at the big pharmaceuticals to STOP and weigh the consequences - and indeed pay the damages for the heartache they've caused and the souls they've condemned with their rampant, egocentric and criminally insane behaviour. "
Like any other company, they DO pay out damages when their products cause injury
mjr256 1 year ago
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"Disgusting genocidal lunatics - and they've taken over the asylum. How the hell did we ever sink this low as a society? People - we HAVE to fight back against this lunacy. Ms Lowe Fisher is a hero and we should all support her work and spread this information."
"Ms Loe Fisher has not said anything untrue or badly researched in this video"
She absolutely has.
I could keep going quoting comments you've made that you now pretend don't exist but I think I've made my point.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 Since you have banned me from posting comments on your wall about the proof of ingredients such as Octoxynol 10, Squalene, Thiomersal etc in the vaccines, it's nice to get the opportunity to tell here. First of all one of the main vaccines Pandemrix was originally authorised under ‘exceptional circumstances’, because, for scientific reasons, limited information was available at the time of approval. Indicating severe lack of testing. Secondly, for obvious reasons I cant cont...
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
1. I've never banned your comments from my wall
2. Squalene is not used in any U.S. vaccines
3. Thimerosal is used in very few U.S. vaccines, none given to young children
4. Pandemrix is used in Europe. If you object to it, take it up European health authorities.
5. Pandemrix did indeed go through clinical trials w/ the H5N1 strain in Belgium & 11 other countries. This is all added to the thousands of clinical trials already performed on the general flu vaccine.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 Look, I'm not going to argue with you. Any Google search of either "squalene/thiomersal in american vaccines" will uncover all the reports and articles you or anybody else needs. The fact of the matter is the vaccines not necessary and contain extremely dangerous chemicals which have been proven to have extremely severe long term side affects. The evidence is everywhere.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
You're not going to argue w/ me bc your idea of research is Google & you've got no actual substantive medical literature backing up your long debunked assertions. The fact is no credible health authority agrees w/ you & vaccines are necessary if one's goal is to prevent as many infections & deaths from the diseases the vaccines prevent. Vaccines have proven more than reasonably safe & you might as well condemn airbags, which cause far more serious injuries than vaccines.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 The FDA has been reviewing reports of abnormal behavior and other brain effects in more than 1,800 children who had taken the flu medicine Tamiflu. The symptoms have included convulsions, delirium or delusions, and in Japan, five deaths have been reported in children under 16 as a result of neurological or psychiatric problems.There have also been nine deaths among older teens and adults, attributed to neuropsychiatric problems or brain infections.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
I'd like to know your source for this1,800 reported "brain effects" claim. I'd also like to know why whenever I cite the FDA, that data is immediately dismissed as part of the evil conspiracy & yet when you cite FDA statistics to further your own agenda, then the FDA is suddenly reliable. Seems kinda inconsistent to me. Then I'd like to know if you think seat belts or coconuts have caused more than 14 deaths of young children ever. If so why aren't you crusading against them too?
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 one last site for you. This covers most of it.
shirleys-wellness-cafe(dot)com(slash)flu(dot)htm
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@Theitisme400
If this is your great source of medical info, I'm horribly unimpressed. What makes you think some random website created by a non-medical authority selling a rival product to medicine is a reliable source of medical information?
What makes Shirley an unimpeachable source? If the only reason is that she confirms your bias, that's not a legitimate reason. It's like accepting Bill Gates' word that Mac sucks. & Pubmed lists not a single publication by Shirley Lipschutz-Robinson.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 the evidence is all around you, everywhere.... simple as that really. It doesn't surprise me that a med agency /gvmnt hasn't come out and made a full blatant admission into the poisons that are in the vaccines, it doesn't strike me as good PR, this is why the alternative media is here. Admittedly, being from UK, I focused on Pandemrix first...seems we have the very worst of a very bad lot. My only "agenda" is to make people think and ask questions about what goes into their body.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
@mjr256 paste the link here but I seriously urge you, and anybody else who wants confirmation from a reputable organisation, to Google "Pandemrix EMA Report", it will be the first site to show at the top. It's a PDF report from the European Medicines Agency that highlights the ingredients on page 12. I suggest you do yourself a favour and read it.
Theitisme400 1 year ago
Peace will never come until we get these vile monsters at the big pharmaceuticals to STOP and weigh the consequences - and indeed pay the damages for the heartache they've caused and the souls they've condemned with their rampant, egocentric and criminally insane behaviour. Smith.
doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN 1 year ago
Disgusting genocidal lunatics - and they've taken over the asylum. How the hell did we ever sink this low as a society? People - we HAVE to fight back against this lunacy. Ms Lowe Fisher is a hero and we should all support her work and spread this information.
doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN 1 year ago
I created a facebook fan page that promotes idea of Twins for vaccine safety, simply Identical twins get vaccines at staggered intervals, or one gets a shot and other doesn't, simply go to facebook and search for twins for vaccine safety
golcynski 1 year ago
Before making such irresponsible public pronoucements, Ms. Fisher should volunteer her own body and the bodies of her children to be infected by deadly vaccine-preventable diseases they're not vaccinated against. I think she'd be an instant convert to more responsible talk, provided she survives that is.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 you're mistaken. Ms Loe Fisher has not said anything untrue or badly researched in this video you hvae commented on. Check the facts and come back. Which fact did you prove untrue of what she's said? Nobody said diseases are not bad. The pharmaceutical industry is out of control & needs regulating and IS killing people. Case in point, Ms Loe Fisher lost her own son to a dodgy vaccine. Think about what YOU'RE saying before you make slanderous comments about a very brave lady. Smith.
doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN 1 year ago
@doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN
I have checked my facts & she's dead wrong on every point. Not only does every single reputable medical organization in the world disagree w/ her & have the evidence to support them but her claims have even had their days in court & lost miserably. & instead of humbly accepting she may be wrong she's proven time & time again that no evidence will ever change her mind & is happy slandering people w/ no evidence to back up her conspiracy. This shows nothing but her own hubris.
mjr256 1 year ago
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No1 claims vaccines are 100% safe all the time just like no1 claims cars, seat belts, airbags, or condoms are 100% safe. & yet all 4 items I've mentioned are far more dangerous than vaccines. But because Fisher's kid may or may not have been a very rare victim of serious injury from a vaccine, she will say anything to condemn them in the name of the children. But what about kids like 4-week-old Dana McCaffery or 5-year-old Jack Piper who were victims of her ideology? Where's the outrage?
mjr256 1 year ago
@doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN
& to respond to your post on my Wall, my position is that of every reputable medical organization in the world. The day you can provide sufficient evidence that I'm wrong, I'll happily admit as much as you accept your Nobel Prize. Until then, I'm unimpressed by your evidence-free claims of the evils of vaccines.
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mjr256 1 year ago
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Just bc you credulously accept the claims of folks like Fisher who reinforce your ideology that doesn't mean every1 else blindly accepts authority. I understand the science. If you did, you'd be able to argue the actual science instead of accusing critics of being ignorant. I find it ironic that you accuse me of lacking humility when you declare yourself a leading expert on vaccines w/a any medical training or practice. What it would take to ever convince you that you're wrong?
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 There is no talking to ppl like you. You've made a lot of sassumptions about me that r not true without having a clue what I do and don't know or believe. And I don't know what it is about the Nobel Prize but you keep bringing it up. I myself don't rate it and have no need for accolades of any type. I love humanity and know what I know based upon my own experiences and research. I would happily present my beliefs (and frequently do) to non-hostile debators here on yt much can be learned
doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN 1 year ago
@doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN
I've made no assumptions of any kind. Everything I've said is backed by mountains of evidence & the opinions of every reputable medical organization in the world. Rather, it's individuals like yourself who have an emotional commitment to a particular ideology, apply confirmation bias, make assertions not backed by credible evidence, arrogantly declare themselves experts despite scientific ignorance & demonstrate an unwillingness to change their mind who cannot be reasoned w/
mjr256 1 year ago
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I on the other hand would happily change my mind & admit to being wrong if provided w/ credible, empirical evidence. No compelling case has been made. And not only have you & Ms. Fisher in particular not presented a compelling case but you've yet to even address the science at all. I respond to evidence not excuses like "My government ate my homework, blah, blah, blah." I'm unimpressed by such transparent BS tactics. The invisible & the non-existent look remarkably similar.
mjr256 1 year ago
@mjr256 HI - this is tedious. OK. 1 you didn't read my posy properly I said you made assumptions about ME and MY (background/ideals/beliefs)... I only became involved because u were rude to this lady. 2, you HAVE made assumptions... and now you'fre at it again: I quote: "...Fisher who reinforce YOUR ideology"... "accusing critics of being ignorant" ... etc there are loads of examples. YOU DON'T KNOW ME. I debate issues all the time with ppl to whom I have opposing views. It's very educational
doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN 1 year ago
@mjr256 continued: It's enjoyable / valuable only because nobody goes personal and says things like: "you declare yourself a leading expert on..." and "I on the other hand would happily admit ..nobel prize ... blah blah" (pomposity beyond belief) I change my mind about issues every day right here on yt. I have as friends many ppl with opposing views and value their views and contributions immensely and NEVER insult or belittle them.
doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN 1 year ago
@mjr256 continued: you don't know how much or how little I've looked at any topic from a few lines on a yt comment page. I waded in 2 defend someone who is saying their piece with best motivation. I have worries about the motivation of your beloved 'reputable companies'. Are the scientists at BP some of your heros that u would have us doff our cap to without question? Anyway I really am done with this. Funny thing is you haven't learned anything about my experiences, too busy assuming & fencing.
doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN 1 year ago
Paul Offit is a huge idiot. He once said that vitamins were more dangerous than vaccines. He also said that a child could be injected with 10,000 vaccines at once without any risks. Anybody who believes that man should have their brain removed.
FreeMindNews 1 year ago
@FreeMindNews Before making such irresponsible public pronoucements, Offit should volunteer his own body as an example of the benign effects of 10,000 vaccines at once. I think he'd be an instant convert to more responsible talk.
leafwatch 1 year ago
@FreeMindNews: Anyone who believes that BS, has ALREADY had their brain removed! I've been taking vitamins for about 40 of my 60 years. I won't go near any poison vaccine!
RandyBful1 1 year ago
Thank you so much I posted this on Face book too....
tanteditastruppi 1 year ago
This wins the prize for most idiotic video I've seen all week. It's like watching Sarah Palin giving a physics lecture. It must really kill Barbie that the judge threw out her frivolous lawsuit against Paul Offit because it's not a crime to call a liar a liar.
dangeroustalk net/a-team/Vaccines
mjr256 1 year ago
BTW if anyone here is from MURRIETA area in CALIFORNIA. A young boy is missing, ADRIAN CALLEROS 13 YRS OLD WAS LAST SEEN IN MURRIETA CALIFORNIA AREA on his skateboard 6th April 2010. Or if you do know someone in that area? Could you please, forward this message onto them, thanks.
RussAimz 1 year ago
Thanks Barbara for putting up this new vid and informing us all, it's appreciated.
RussAimz 1 year ago
Thanks for posting! I will make sure to share!
SabrinaMBowen 1 year ago
Barbara and the team at NVIC I think the work that you all do is brilliant. I have reuploaded your video and it is number 1 in News and Politics UK :)
Keep up the great work.
91177info 1 year ago
Thank you for post this
8712222q 1 year ago
this is why i will never take any of their new 'vax'. the FDA *doesn't know* no surprise there.
cv1122 1 year ago
Thank you.
hann21921 1 year ago
Why isn't this on the mainstream news...oh yes that's right who buys ads during those time slots. Why don't MD's warn us about this...oh yes that's right who subsidizes their education.
thinkingman07 1 year ago
GSK is already under US Congressional investigation for withholding research that showed their diabetes drug caused heart attacks. Why is the drug still on the market?
quixoticwn 1 year ago
Thank you so very much for all you do. Your efforts and time are much appreciated.
Thank you.
StarrJaded 1 year ago