you bring up valid points about the whole us postal thing being a scam, but im not sure if live strong is a scam. lots of people raise money for cancer, but it doesnt mean their profiting from it. i think its more likely that if lance did cheat, they made livestrong to get on the good side of the public. That being said im still hoping he's innocent though it seems unlikely at this point.
@cozybeehiveful Thanks for posting the link to this on a cycling forum we both read/post to. I go by a different username there but glad I pulled up that thread so I could see this. As always, so many different interesting takes on things. Gotta love it!
@jamiesomersuk What exactly is the "new message to the world in relation to the fight against cancer"? And, for what it is worth, I am a cancer survivor so I am involved, informed, and actually do care about all things cancer in general.
lance armstrong's radioshack team stand on the podium with the eyes of the world watching them at the end of the tour de france today with a new message to the world in relation to the fight against cancer,and you get a stupid,pathetic, no life scum bag of a man making videos like this
@jamiesomersuk Michael Ashenden develops tests for the Olympic committee to detect dopers and cheaters, "there is no doubt in my mind he (Lance Armstrong) took EPO during the '99 Tour." Ashenden led the Australian Instit of Sport to focus on battling blood doping. Google his 2009 interview with nyvelocity. No trial, but the expert scientist has NO DOUBT versus you the blind fanatic uninformed grasping at straws.Teammates, Ferrarri, Ashenden all say you lose Frankyboy, sorry. AssProng doped.
@musicNsoccer Never failed or refused a dope test you can line up all the experts you want one thing you can never dispute, he never failed one of them. So called expert scientists have been after Armstrong since his first Tour victory. He must be the only athlete in history where so many were out to prove him doping and never caught him.
@jamiesomersuk Betsy Andreu, Frankie Andreu testified against him. Greg Lemond showed Mcllvain was lying for him. Anderson saw him use adrostenone. Landis, Hamilton, Hincape all saw him. He employed Ferarri the infamous doping doctor. Idiots who think like you would have elected him governor of Texas, the 2bit cheating doping scumbag. You make peace with this. Conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, racketeering, drug trafficking and defrauding the US
Relax and do some research before jumping all over. His style of speed is rapid fire and thats the way some people are. Fred had polio as a kid and transverse myelitis in ‘93, which is akin to MS.
@cozybeehiveful so is that an excuse for the bullshit he comes out with. If he has had health problems himself then he should recognise a person, who has overcome an illness to succeed in his field, not claim the cancer was 'faked'. Total bullshit.
the one thing with this video that makes this probably the sickest thing i have ever heard is forget about these untrue accusations, its the fact that you doubt that lance even had cancer, i hope lance armstrong takes you through every court there is over this tripe
@ Cozy Beehive, freelance investigator = conspiracy theory loon who mouths off on the internet without any logic or reason, to make themselves feel important.
Get back to working out who put the dynamite in building 7 and leave our sport alone.
You're asking bad questions and promoting wild conspiracy theory drivel - implying Armstrong faked cancer and that the whole USPS sponsorship was part of some wider corruption to begin with - but be ready for lots of people praising you for this fuckwittery. For these guys, anyone who throws dirt against Armstrong, no matter how ignorant, is someone they must praise.
You're asking good questions Fred. Keep digging. Meanwhile, be ready for plenty of hate messages from LA's die-hard fans. Both here and in your inbox. Its a stigma that anyone who "questions" the cancer messiah has to go through.
@cozybeehiveful Is Fred a medical expert from what I hear he is not. He should concentrate on breathing as he doesn't seem to be able to breath and talk at the same time leave the difficult stuff to us humans. Funny how Lance was seen doping by all his team mates who had the same doctors but Lance was never tested positive unlike them although he is the most tested athlete in world sport.
For those of you who are not hard-wired into cycling, this is very similar to what many experts are saying including the Wall Street Journal. New York Times, and USA Today.
The pre/post/ cancer history (on the bike) is generally accurate, as is the hsitory of accusations.
US Postal wanted to sponsor a bike racing team to raise awareness in Europe so they could land contracts to to package delivery between there (where it's FedEx or nothing, pretty much) and the USA.
@jamiesomersuk This is factually incorrect. In 1999, LA failed a drug test at the Tour when he tested positive for corticosteroids (for which he later supplied a doctor’s note, also called a TUE). Over the years, he has denied numerous accusations and testimonies from the people closest to him during those Tours. It must also be said that during those years, it was near to impossible to detect doping through autologuous blood injections.
you bring up valid points about the whole us postal thing being a scam, but im not sure if live strong is a scam. lots of people raise money for cancer, but it doesnt mean their profiting from it. i think its more likely that if lance did cheat, they made livestrong to get on the good side of the public. That being said im still hoping he's innocent though it seems unlikely at this point.
sleepyhead7391 6 months ago
Liestrong
thurso1968 9 months ago
i don't understand hilly billy dialect... :(
triwillb 1 year ago
@cozybeehiveful Thanks for posting the link to this on a cycling forum we both read/post to. I go by a different username there but glad I pulled up that thread so I could see this. As always, so many different interesting takes on things. Gotta love it!
swillersby 1 year ago
@jamiesomersuk What exactly is the "new message to the world in relation to the fight against cancer"? And, for what it is worth, I am a cancer survivor so I am involved, informed, and actually do care about all things cancer in general.
May the truth be revealed, whatever it may be.
swillersby 1 year ago
Not the best speaker, and a bit too Gonzo, but much of this info has been reported on and corroborated by major news publications in recent weeks.
zenmachinefilms 1 year ago
lance armstrong's radioshack team stand on the podium with the eyes of the world watching them at the end of the tour de france today with a new message to the world in relation to the fight against cancer,and you get a stupid,pathetic, no life scum bag of a man making videos like this
get a life you SAD OLD MAN
jamiesomersuk 1 year ago
@jamiesomersuk Michael Ashenden develops tests for the Olympic committee to detect dopers and cheaters, "there is no doubt in my mind he (Lance Armstrong) took EPO during the '99 Tour." Ashenden led the Australian Instit of Sport to focus on battling blood doping. Google his 2009 interview with nyvelocity. No trial, but the expert scientist has NO DOUBT versus you the blind fanatic uninformed grasping at straws.Teammates, Ferrarri, Ashenden all say you lose Frankyboy, sorry. AssProng doped.
musicNsoccer 8 months ago
@musicNsoccer Never failed or refused a dope test you can line up all the experts you want one thing you can never dispute, he never failed one of them. So called expert scientists have been after Armstrong since his first Tour victory. He must be the only athlete in history where so many were out to prove him doping and never caught him.
bampie1 7 months ago
@bampie1 I have only one response for you ... Barry Bonds. Dope Strong!
musicNsoccer 7 months ago
@jamiesomersuk Betsy Andreu, Frankie Andreu testified against him. Greg Lemond showed Mcllvain was lying for him. Anderson saw him use adrostenone. Landis, Hamilton, Hincape all saw him. He employed Ferarri the infamous doping doctor. Idiots who think like you would have elected him governor of Texas, the 2bit cheating doping scumbag. You make peace with this. Conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, racketeering, drug trafficking and defrauding the US
musicNsoccer 8 months ago
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@jamiesomersuk Some of Ferarri's clients: Berzin - suspended 2000 elevated hematocrit, Bortolami - 2003 cortisone, EPO, Ciapucci 1997 - files seized, Landis - 2007 2year ban, Mazzoleni - 2008 2 yr ban, Mentheour - 1997 EPO, Moser - 199 doping, Riis - 1996 epo, hgh, cortisone, Simeoni - 1999 suspended EPO, Sinkewitz 2007 - suspended testosterone, Vinokorov - 2007 suspended homologous transfusion - ArmProng - 2004 US Postal team 7 tour de france wins --- go figure it out, go deny truth, be blind.
musicNsoccer 8 months ago
Relax and do some research before jumping all over. His style of speed is rapid fire and thats the way some people are. Fred had polio as a kid and transverse myelitis in ‘93, which is akin to MS.
cozybeehiveful 1 year ago
@cozybeehiveful so is that an excuse for the bullshit he comes out with. If he has had health problems himself then he should recognise a person, who has overcome an illness to succeed in his field, not claim the cancer was 'faked'. Total bullshit.
danielb123 1 year ago
@danielb123 We'll let the Feds find that out. You dont need to get ahead of us. Thank you sir.
cozybeehiveful 1 year ago
I can't understand this guy - His speech or his point in life!
paulcuthbert 1 year ago
Never mind his false accusations, I want to know what drugs the 'star' of this video has nailed.
danielb123 1 year ago
man, I was down there last weekend. really wish I could have talked to this guy.
emcb1230 1 year ago
Lance (by his doping) is the cancer of cycling. Paul Kimmage
u368 1 year ago
I can't understand a word he is saying... Is he drunk?
eshlads 1 year ago
the one thing with this video that makes this probably the sickest thing i have ever heard is forget about these untrue accusations, its the fact that you doubt that lance even had cancer, i hope lance armstrong takes you through every court there is over this tripe
jamiesomersuk 1 year ago
Wow, LeMond has sure aged!!!
Theimmik 1 year ago
I better quit this before I get owned by TTF.
ChuckHenderson1 1 year ago
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ChuckHenderson1 1 year ago
@ Cozy Beehive, freelance investigator = conspiracy theory loon who mouths off on the internet without any logic or reason, to make themselves feel important.
Get back to working out who put the dynamite in building 7 and leave our sport alone.
ChuckHenderson1 1 year ago
Wow, that loon Dr Maserati agrees with you that Tailwind sports are a CIA front company.
If a crazed moonbat like him is backing you, we know you're up shit creek.
ChuckHenderson1 1 year ago
This tea party thing has gotten totally out of control.
ChuckHenderson1 1 year ago
You're asking bad questions and promoting wild conspiracy theory drivel - implying Armstrong faked cancer and that the whole USPS sponsorship was part of some wider corruption to begin with - but be ready for lots of people praising you for this fuckwittery. For these guys, anyone who throws dirt against Armstrong, no matter how ignorant, is someone they must praise.
ChuckHenderson1 1 year ago
Wow, what a rambling loon. This is precisely what I believe ThoughtforFood from cycling news is like.
ChuckHenderson1 1 year ago
You're asking good questions Fred. Keep digging. Meanwhile, be ready for plenty of hate messages from LA's die-hard fans. Both here and in your inbox. Its a stigma that anyone who "questions" the cancer messiah has to go through.
cozybeehiveful 1 year ago 5
@cozybeehiveful ARE YOU KIDDING ME? This guy cannot even TALK!!! Investigative report on what...? Pathetic... simply pathetic ignorance...
DarkSideStef 1 year ago
@cozybeehiveful Is Fred a medical expert from what I hear he is not. He should concentrate on breathing as he doesn't seem to be able to breath and talk at the same time leave the difficult stuff to us humans. Funny how Lance was seen doping by all his team mates who had the same doctors but Lance was never tested positive unlike them although he is the most tested athlete in world sport.
bampie1 7 months ago
For those of you who are not hard-wired into cycling, this is very similar to what many experts are saying including the Wall Street Journal. New York Times, and USA Today.
The pre/post/ cancer history (on the bike) is generally accurate, as is the hsitory of accusations.
US Postal wanted to sponsor a bike racing team to raise awareness in Europe so they could land contracts to to package delivery between there (where it's FedEx or nothing, pretty much) and the USA.
NixonAgonistes 1 year ago 3
Some people have a lot of spare time on their hands to make shit like this.
Can't you accept the guy is the greatest athlete of his generation.
p.s may be you should take some elocution lessons before you do your next video.
danielb123 1 year ago
he's never been proved to of cheated EVER, get a life you silly little OLD man
jamiesomersuk 1 year ago
@jamiesomersuk This is factually incorrect. In 1999, LA failed a drug test at the Tour when he tested positive for corticosteroids (for which he later supplied a doctor’s note, also called a TUE). Over the years, he has denied numerous accusations and testimonies from the people closest to him during those Tours. It must also be said that during those years, it was near to impossible to detect doping through autologuous blood injections.
cozybeehiveful 1 year ago 2