@RATPT0I If you go back further into Joker's story then you'll see more. Originally he was a murderer who just killed for the sake of it, really, and promoted anarchy and chaos. If you read the Killing Joke, you'll see slight touches of nihilism in Joker. And he doesn't "dress" as a clown; he was turned into that appearance by chemicals.
As for cliches, Sephiroth was based on some, yes, but he also set new ones. So there was some originality in there.
Kefka! The God of All Atheists. The Usurper of All Tyrants. The Genius of All Fools. The Lover of Hatred. The Parody of Meaning. The Predicate to the "Self-Help Booklet".
@LoneIndividual Red Herring. Atheism is defined as the lack of belief in supernatural deities. It has nothing to do with a person's willingness to die.
"If there is no God, there is no way to live."
Life is certainly possible without gods. Methods of living are also not dependent on the existence of a deity in general.
@LoneIndividual (cont.) "Any Atheist that is unwilling to die, is seeking to become a god, or is seeking to create a god."
It simply not the case. In fact don't any logical link. I mean, just because some does not wish to die, it doesn't mean he therefore wishes to gain supernatural powers (or thinks is such is possible). Nor does it entail that they believe, or are seeking to believe in something supernatural.
So you wouldn't have a problem with me putting a gun to your head?
It's actually quite logical, infact, true logic, to assume someone doesn't want to die, if they haven't already died. If they live for something...their family for instance, and I murder that family, what does that person have to live for? Revenge? After that....what?
NOTHING.
Morality is superstitious by nature.
There is no good or evil, but thinking makes it so. - Shakespeare
@LoneIndividual You have now gone on a tangent to your tangent and have lost me.Again, I was simply stating the definition of atheism, and how said definition makes your initial statement nonsensical. Nothing else.
God or no God, you can manipulate someone with Love or Hate. Drive a herd of cattle, with reward or punishment.
There is reward in doing the right thing in and of itself. There is also punishment in failure. No need for someone to give punishment or take reward.
There is no certainty in life except death. Morality isn't natural, it's artificial, for I can change my morals at will.
@LoneIndividual "That which is really true doesn't change." Gravitational acceleration happens to exist, and yet it changes depending on the mass of the objects involved and the distance between them...
Again though, I have really trouble following your train of thought, and see little relevance to my orginal point.
"for I can change my morals at will."
I am glad that at least you realize the meta-ethical problem of morality (ie. that there is no one set of moral rules that one must follow).
Truth is that which exists and will continue to exist. Everything is annihilated.
Morality functions off of some principles of reality.
If there is an archetype, arcitect, epitome, and epic of all that is the Individual, being Existential and therefore having the Truth...wielding it at his leisure as one would a sword....then God's Law is the confines of the sort of morality that leans towards Eternal Life.
Morality by default DOES NOT EXIST. If you are talking about a system of self-governance (discipline) in order to obtain the object of one's desire...which is what morality IS...to better clarify...that it is the MADE-UP-ARTIFICIAL LOGIC WHICH ISN'T BASED UPON ANYTHING REAL OR FACTUAL.
I could kill you, and the universe wouldn't give a shit.
True Objectivism is Nihilism. Atheists don't accept that, and thus are biased. Their bias distorts the truth.
@LoneIndividual It exists in people's minds (as electronic or atomic states if you wish). It it didn't exists, there would be no way to follow rule based actions.
"I could kill you, and the universe wouldn't give a shit."
Indeed. Relevance?
"DEATH IS TRUTH."
My definitions of those two words make it difficult for me to see their equivalence. For instance if take "x is death" such a sentence could be true or false in general.
@LoneIndividual Again, I remind you fo the definition of what it means to be an atheist: The lack of belief in supernatural deities. Whether or not atheists after the fact wish to be followed or command people is not related to their atheism.
Once an Atheist loses all their family, they long to die. By merely creating another family diminishes the value of the family lost. Unless there is some preservation of what was once loved...LOVE ITSELF BECOMES MEANINGLESS.
Truth is the only thing that has meaning. If Family isn't Forever, then Family is meaningless by nature. TRUTH IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS REAL.
If family appears and then disappears, it's as if it never existence in the first place.
@LoneIndividual The problem here with your assertion is that somehow the unimportance of the person's actions to the grand scheme somehow is a general argument against them pursuing those actions.
I mean, I'm rather aromantic myself, but to say that people generally do not value their romantic relationships after they end, or that the value they place diminishes in some measurable fashion, is I think empirically false.
@LoneIndividual "If family appears and then disappears, it's as if it never existence in the first place."
Not quite; Events in reality have interdependence, and so if one doesn't occur that can change the outcome of others; whatever value you may place on the change, it did still occur.
It doesn't matter if it DID happen. What matters is that it IS and that it keeps happening!
The Truth keeps happening. That is how it is. : | It doesn't have intelligence.The Truth remembers nothing, except what is in the present. The past doesn't exist anymore.
The Truth is lifeless. The Truth is EVERYTHING bound up in ONE REALITY.
A COMPOUND IN ONE. Knowing no misery nor happiness, nor pain nor pleasure, good nor evil.
@LoneIndividual Just what are you talking about now? Truth is a state which a sentence of sentential or predicate logic can take (the others being indeterminacy or falsity).
It is an abstract concept, and so trying to anthropomorphize or give it physical qualities (such being a compound or having memory) is mere poetry, and does contribute any meaningful insight in an academic or intellectual sense.
@LoneIndividual "If this "Cosmos" arose from un-intelligent chaos, then we are doomed to the destiny which is DEATH."
Not so, as that would be an extremely faulty induction. Just because the early universe or the big bang itself may be "chaotic" (Although this term is extremely vague and would qualify for a more rigorous definition) this doesn't mean that the future state of the universe is necessarily going to be so as well (especially considering your glaring lack of evidence for such).
Glaring lack of evidence? The whole history of the Universe is the evidence. Entropy is observed as a constant. Apparently you don't understand the notion of Universality in the arena of Science as it is traditionally practiced.
There has been NOTHING produced by the scientific community (or by anyone for that matter) that constitutes as scientific evidence which definitively points to a reversal of Entropy.
You're being dis-ingenuous. The very act of survival is religion.
@LoneIndividual Strawman. I never denied that entropy has always been observed to be increasing in situations defined by a given volume and given surroundings.
"Strawman. I never denied that entropy has always been observed to be increasing in situations defined by a given volume and given surroundings."
Strawman of a strawman. Volume and surroundings do not define anything regarding Entropy. It's simply a constant that I see in everything presently alive as well as non-living matter. Entropy is Universal.
This is getting petty. I've read your page, and some of the comments. We clearly do not have agreement on Entropy.
@LoneIndividual Entropy is not constant. The second law of thermodynamics states that entropy is always increasing (in the given universe defined). Although I must say the mathematical demonstration of this was absent from my chemistry course on the subject which I took a few years ago.
Nevertheless, you do understand entropy as Q/T I hope.
Atheists have their gods. they are as abstract as the Theist concepts and thus constitutes equal scrutiny.
Theists serve their God(s) in order to obtain their respective promises of immortality. (resurrection, reincarnation)
These idea's are manifest in the Various Theories of Evolution themselves where Genetic Identity is passed down from generation to another. Hinduism itself contains the Theory of Evolution in the concept of reincarnation.
@LoneIndividual I reiterate: By definition an atheist is someone who lacks belief in a supernatural deity. Whether or not genetic characteristics are passed down through natural selection or any general evolutionary way is irrelevant (given it is a natural process).
I just love how you clarified SUPERNATURAL DEITY from just the normal variety of deity. Otherwise, I must be parsing words (albeit with justified suspicion) and you just added redundancies to the word deity...which by it's nature is traditionally viewed by default as supernatural.
Science has been turned into machination of convolutions between religious sophistry and objectivity.
@LoneIndividual It was necessary to make clear; As deity is sometimes commonly used to refer to some revered person, one which does necessarily have supernatural powers (eg. Cult of persona of Soviet Leaders).
Aside you continue to go into red herring and strawman. To the point where your argument as I have said before reassembles a poem rather then any insightful exposition.
At this point I am having the most difficult of time just following what you are saying. For the sake of maintaing any credulity, I suggest, as I have before, a sharp change in language.
Cannibalism in the form of Communism/Capitalism is the first false God of the Atheists and even Masons
Evolution is the second false God of Atheists and Theists alike. Royalty down to Hitler (all nazi's) believed in breeding the Master Race by purifying bloodlines (aka genetic purging) and Slave Owners who breed the master race by cultural diversity (genetic diversity).
Artifice is the third false God, of which is built by mortals
People run on Food. Food is turned into energy. That energy is directed into work. That work is there bought with promisary notes (painted paper) and then the elites partake of the fruits of our labors. :)
I thought you've read Marx...granted, his work isn't original, I mean, Cain slew Able and partook of his labor...which came about because of the energy he received from food. Having someone else digest food in order to do work for, is...hell, you get the point.
@LoneIndividual Um indeed people do eat food which is then turned into energy (albeit in a rather complex manner) some this energy being mechanical work.
And indeed as Marx and many before him noted, the work performed by the individual is more then the minimum necessary to sustain him, thus the idea of surplus, and how such a thing could be requisitioned by others (be they landlords, capitalists, firms, a government, etc.)
This seems quite irrelevant to the rest of our discussion though.
@LoneIndividual I reiterate again: An atheist is someone who lacks belief in a supernatural deity. If they do indeed believe in a supernatural (READ: Not natural) deity, then they are by definition not atheists.
"Stalin died shaking his fist and cursing God, as accounted by his daughter."
I would prefer reports on Koba to be backed up by archival evidence, :)
1. I think it's safe to say that we agree on the definition, it's just that there are clearly false Atheists out there who promote an Atheist agenda for alternative motives than what they've originally stated. But it was not obvious to you that those quasi-atheists are indeed promoting something that couldn't possible by your standard be construed as religion...which of course gets into the greater conspiracy of Malthusian Theory
@LoneIndividual There are indeed obviously atheists who have other motives and beliefs. But those beliefs are dependent on atheism (eg. Someone who wishes to raise the top marginal income tax rate doesn't do so because he lacks belief in a deity).
You're going to die, and your life wouldn't have even mattered. No one will be alive to cherish your name. They too will die. Every last etch of your name, will decay along with the ENTROPY of the COSMOS.
Time is of no consequence. There no use postponing the inevitable. All humanity will succumb.
How can you not despair at this absolute future? Only Theists have an answer to such Everlasting Death.
@LoneIndividual It doesn't really concern me. I simply place little value on people's memory of me. I have goals, and I will attempt to achieve them. Whether or not they are remembered or cherished or survive my death doesn't bother me all too much.
Even so, if someone despairs about something and then is comforted by believing that some supernatural deity or process exists, it does really mean it exists (argument ad populum).
@LoneIndividual Strawman. I do not believe that I am immortal. And my belief that mortals exist is backed up by empirical observation.
"You're going to die, and it never even mattered that you were alive."
Red herring. In fact you are going completely on red herring with your whole argument. I simply defined what it means to be an atheist; Ie. Lacking belief that supernatural deities exist.
Kefka was inspired by the works of Franz Kafka and Fredrich Nietzsche..(An maybe the Joker) but his nihilism is heavily in the realm of Nietzsche. Still, where do I sign up for the cult cuz I wanna destroy the world and create a monument to nonexistance as well. ^_^
Just join the Communist Party and you can centralize power to the max....and then...just like Kefka, coup de ta the benevolent dictator...and then press the big shiny button. Afterwards bathing in the ashes of all life while turning the remains of civilization into a massive tower of garbage...and then metaphorically and literally rape the world with your "light of judgment"...technically giving her a facial.
I haven't yet got the chance to see the game, but the cosplay was so good that I can't help but WANT to worship Kefka! D:
I...am nothing.
I will die.
Hate is forever.
No one loves me. :(
I'll run, run before I'm well done!
KEFKA!!! YOU HAVE JUST MADE ME A FAN!!! -Looks over shoulder- Er, sorry Sephiroth, but he's just so much cooler than you .____. I still love your hair, though.
I was always quick to avoid Kefka's Fallen Angel and attack combo, thank god. Zeromus was just relentless with me. I guess I was just the unlucky one. = /
When I first fought kefka on the snes version in like 95 or 96, I was all of 10 years old and he was fucking impossible. It took me two years to beat the game and two more years to beat him. Damn.
Of course, in those days I frowned on gaining xp and would blitz from one boss to the next, only getting xp and gold from random encounters on the way ( many of which I ran from ) The secret to beating any FF villain is to train train train until you have the biggest numbers around!
I beat Kefka at levels 37-46. I got lucky, though. I didn't have Ultimate or any of the good stuff people like to spam. I went in with very limited supplies and managed to come out on top.
I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything HATE HATE HATE
Kefka is the best variation of the Anti-Christ portrayed in any game EVER.
I love how they picked the description of the clown for kefka. Mostly because of the Joker, but also because of the "mockery/joke/abomination" he is represented as when he poses as a GOD.
Also, I think all Atheists would love Kefka. :)
It's something Theists and Atheists can enjoy together. :)
Kefka was one of very few villians, if not the ONLY villian, in final fantasy history, who did what he set out to do, and SUCCEEDED...HAAAAAAAIILL Kefka!!!
well, technically Chaos/Garland and Ultimecia kinda achieved what they aimed for (Revenge and Time Compression) but Kefka was absolute evil and thats why he's Kewler.
Our Lord Kefka is 100% pixelicious and doesn't need his Mama to fight his battles and kill people for him, Sephiroth is a wuss and i blame his parents, especially Jenova for murdering Shinra and getting the black materia for him. LONG LIVE THE CULT OF KEFKA!
I recently beat FFVI, and Kefka is much harder than Sephiroth. The only thing that the little bastard had on me was three Super Novas. They were tedious but not threatening. Kefka, on the other hand, took me 3-4 hours of failures before I finally beat him. I went in with minimal everything. My levels were 35-45, no good magic like Ultima, and no good weapons or extras. For those saying that Sephiroth is more powerful than Kefka, I have to kindly disagree...
Kefka's battle was longer than Sephiroth's, that's for sure. It's a 4 part battle whereas in VII it was only 2 part (well... you can count Jenova-Synthesis, I guess).
Did you go in with "minimal everything" fighting Sephiroth, as well? To have a honest comparison on who was harder.
Either way, those two (along with the final dungeons themselves) are nothing compared to Zeromus and his respective dungeon. Much harder. All the fucker had to do was use Big Bang. Ugh...
When I fought Sephiroth, I didn't have Omnislash or any of the level 4 Limit Breaks. My characters had high HP thanks to many HP Plus Materias; however, HP doesn't really matter in that battle. I didn't have my Materia leveled up all that much, and I definitely didn't have any Ultimate Weapons. Sephiroth was a long fight (Kefka was longer), but the most threatening thing he did was Super Nova me three times. Kefka took me four hours of miserable failures until I finally conquered him...
Honestly, the battle with Safer Sephiroth was, in my view, psychological all because of the One Winged Angel. It was epic, but it had a psychological impact on me where I just went "oh fuck...." when you hear the first notes. That's what made him seem hard at first, along with his Super Nova and other spells. Of course, this only works on the player 1-2 times tops. He ain't hard at all after you get over the song.
Yeah, I know Sephiroth is easy. I'm just tired of people saying Kefka is easier than Sephiroth. The people who say that spammed Ultima and used Locke + Genji Glove + Ultima Weapon x2 + Master Scroll. Sephiroth is much easier than Kefka.
Really? I beat Zeromus on my second try. He's really not all that hard. Big Bang is manageable with Curaja healing you the next turn. The only thing you really have to worry about is the possibility of a double Meteor. I got hit with that one time and died :(.
20 FUCKING TIMES FOR ME!! AND YES, METEOR SPAMMING WHORE!!! JESUS CHRIST, I TRY TO GET THE UPPER HAND BUT EVERYTIME HE TAKES DOWN ROSA AND CECIL!! AND I'M RACING TO GET THE PHOENIX DOWNS ON THEM BUT FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!
This was when I was at relatively high levels (over 60). I'd like to see someone attempt to beat him at the lowest level possible. I don't know which version was harder (was it the DS or did they dumb that down?), but fuck man. He ain't fun to fight.
Well, the DS version is probably easier with the Phoenix Augment. I put that on Kain, and when he dies, he revives everybody else (as long as he has MP). I always thought the SNES version was easier (people made it look easy), but I think the DS version Zeromus is much easier because of the Augments.
Kefka is so funny... I like him! U know why? Because he's a terrible bastard but STILL u can make fun of him and laugh at what he does and says... even if u'll have u're head cut off after that!
Those in favor of building a monument to non-existence?
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Sephiroth 4 ever
Chidori328 9 months ago
@Chidori328
NO
RATPT0I 5 months ago
@RATPT0I YES
Chidori328 5 months ago
@Chidori328
Sephi is a joke character. Even more than Kefka.
His Supernova is a non-fatal attack that's weaker than Kefka's heartless angel.
RATPT0I 5 months ago
@RATPT0I I honestly don't really care. I like Sephiroth. That's just that :)
Chidori328 5 months ago
@RATPT0I besides Kefka is just a Joker rip off
Chidori328 5 months ago
@Chidori328
Just because they both dress as clowns? They are nothing alike:
Sure both are insane. (So is Sephiroth, and every other villain)
Kefka's character is based on the writer Franz Kafka, who wrote about nihilism.
What is Sephiroth based on, hmm? cliches.
RATPT0I 5 months ago
@RATPT0I If you go back further into Joker's story then you'll see more. Originally he was a murderer who just killed for the sake of it, really, and promoted anarchy and chaos. If you read the Killing Joke, you'll see slight touches of nihilism in Joker. And he doesn't "dress" as a clown; he was turned into that appearance by chemicals.
As for cliches, Sephiroth was based on some, yes, but he also set new ones. So there was some originality in there.
BlazeIgnitus 4 months ago
Who else tried to pause and read everything it said? Just me? Awesome.
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@21tiger12
"Just me?"
You are not an unique snowflake :P.
Seymour13 3 months ago
Kefka! The God of All Atheists. The Usurper of All Tyrants. The Genius of All Fools. The Lover of Hatred. The Parody of Meaning. The Predicate to the "Self-Help Booklet".
Before there was God, there was Atheism.
Before there was God, there was Kefka.
LoneIndividual 11 months ago 7
@LoneIndividual Atheism is the non-belief in supernatural deities...
Scientisticsoviet 5 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Atheism is an oxymoron considering Atheists are unwilling to die
If there is no God, there is no way to live. If there is a God, there is only one right way to live.
Entropy is Observed, Extinction is Assured, Death is Absolute.
How do Atheists get by in a Godless world? They artifice their own immortality.
Religion = The Search for Immortality.
Religion isn't the Opiate of the Masses.
Religion is the Cause of the Individual.
ps: Marx (the liar) knew Nietzsche
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Red Herring. Atheism is defined as the lack of belief in supernatural deities. It has nothing to do with a person's willingness to die.
"If there is no God, there is no way to live."
Life is certainly possible without gods. Methods of living are also not dependent on the existence of a deity in general.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Red Herring? Entertainment & lies are the ultimate Red Herring.
Death is reality.
So at which point are you willing to die?
If you're unwilling to die right now, then what on Earth will make you change your mind?
We are alive right now, but when we approach death, we see the need for there to be a God.
Regardless, this world is a comical tragedy.
Any Atheist that is unwilling to die, is seeking to become a god, or is seeking to create a god.
Morality is Superstition
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Your argument is red herring to my definition.
Now, even if death is inevitable, it doesn't mean that therefore one must want to die. Naturalistic fallacy (see the s-ought problem).
"We are alive right now, but when we approach death, we see the need for there to be a God."
Perhaps, although that would be an empirical question (as stated). Now to imply from that therefore a deity exists is ad populum fallacy.
(cont.)
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual (cont.) "Any Atheist that is unwilling to die, is seeking to become a god, or is seeking to create a god."
It simply not the case. In fact don't any logical link. I mean, just because some does not wish to die, it doesn't mean he therefore wishes to gain supernatural powers (or thinks is such is possible). Nor does it entail that they believe, or are seeking to believe in something supernatural.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
So you wouldn't have a problem with me putting a gun to your head?
It's actually quite logical, infact, true logic, to assume someone doesn't want to die, if they haven't already died. If they live for something...their family for instance, and I murder that family, what does that person have to live for? Revenge? After that....what?
NOTHING.
Morality is superstitious by nature.
There is no good or evil, but thinking makes it so. - Shakespeare
cont
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual You have now gone on a tangent to your tangent and have lost me.Again, I was simply stating the definition of atheism, and how said definition makes your initial statement nonsensical. Nothing else.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Faith leads to delusion
Fear leads to confusion
God or no God, you can manipulate someone with Love or Hate. Drive a herd of cattle, with reward or punishment.
There is reward in doing the right thing in and of itself. There is also punishment in failure. No need for someone to give punishment or take reward.
There is no certainty in life except death. Morality isn't natural, it's artificial, for I can change my morals at will.
That which is really true doesn't change.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual "That which is really true doesn't change." Gravitational acceleration happens to exist, and yet it changes depending on the mass of the objects involved and the distance between them...
Again though, I have really trouble following your train of thought, and see little relevance to my orginal point.
"for I can change my morals at will."
I am glad that at least you realize the meta-ethical problem of morality (ie. that there is no one set of moral rules that one must follow).
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Truth is that which exists and will continue to exist. Everything is annihilated.
Morality functions off of some principles of reality.
If there is an archetype, arcitect, epitome, and epic of all that is the Individual, being Existential and therefore having the Truth...wielding it at his leisure as one would a sword....then God's Law is the confines of the sort of morality that leans towards Eternal Life.
No one set of morals? You're joking right....
cont
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Morality by default DOES NOT EXIST. If you are talking about a system of self-governance (discipline) in order to obtain the object of one's desire...which is what morality IS...to better clarify...that it is the MADE-UP-ARTIFICIAL LOGIC WHICH ISN'T BASED UPON ANYTHING REAL OR FACTUAL.
I could kill you, and the universe wouldn't give a shit.
True Objectivism is Nihilism. Atheists don't accept that, and thus are biased. Their bias distorts the truth.
DEATH IS TRUTH.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual It exists in people's minds (as electronic or atomic states if you wish). It it didn't exists, there would be no way to follow rule based actions.
"I could kill you, and the universe wouldn't give a shit."
Indeed. Relevance?
"DEATH IS TRUTH."
My definitions of those two words make it difficult for me to see their equivalence. For instance if take "x is death" such a sentence could be true or false in general.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Atheism is a religion. Stalin, Mao, Einstein, Shaw, AND MANY MORE, actually endeavored to ARTIFICE DIVINITY.
google COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS OF HUMANITY...or that God = ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
I mean seriously, there is so much religion in atheism...I just look at all atheists as hypocrites and idiots.
Entertainment by itself has become religion. Salvation through escape. Escape from what? Reality. All Entertainment is, is a distraction from reality.
cont
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Again, I remind you fo the definition of what it means to be an atheist: The lack of belief in supernatural deities. Whether or not atheists after the fact wish to be followed or command people is not related to their atheism.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Once an Atheist loses all their family, they long to die. By merely creating another family diminishes the value of the family lost. Unless there is some preservation of what was once loved...LOVE ITSELF BECOMES MEANINGLESS.
Truth is the only thing that has meaning. If Family isn't Forever, then Family is meaningless by nature. TRUTH IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS REAL.
If family appears and then disappears, it's as if it never existence in the first place.
cont
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual The problem here with your assertion is that somehow the unimportance of the person's actions to the grand scheme somehow is a general argument against them pursuing those actions.
I mean, I'm rather aromantic myself, but to say that people generally do not value their romantic relationships after they end, or that the value they place diminishes in some measurable fashion, is I think empirically false.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual "If family appears and then disappears, it's as if it never existence in the first place."
Not quite; Events in reality have interdependence, and so if one doesn't occur that can change the outcome of others; whatever value you may place on the change, it did still occur.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
It doesn't matter if it DID happen. What matters is that it IS and that it keeps happening!
The Truth keeps happening. That is how it is. : | It doesn't have intelligence.The Truth remembers nothing, except what is in the present. The past doesn't exist anymore.
The Truth is lifeless. The Truth is EVERYTHING bound up in ONE REALITY.
A COMPOUND IN ONE. Knowing no misery nor happiness, nor pain nor pleasure, good nor evil.
It's the closest thing to NOTHING we can arrive.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Just what are you talking about now? Truth is a state which a sentence of sentential or predicate logic can take (the others being indeterminacy or falsity).
It is an abstract concept, and so trying to anthropomorphize or give it physical qualities (such being a compound or having memory) is mere poetry, and does contribute any meaningful insight in an academic or intellectual sense.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
If there is a God, he would have to be the very definition of EXISTENTIALISM in order to defeat the reality that is Nihilism.
If this "Cosmos" arose from un-intelligent chaos, then we are doomed to the destiny which is DEATH.
Only God (theoretical existential intelligence who gives a shit) can save us from such an end.
For me...Sleep is the salvation of the weary. Death is the immortality of the hopeless.
God vs Death. Feeling-Intelligence vs Unfeeling-Non-Intelligence
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual "If this "Cosmos" arose from un-intelligent chaos, then we are doomed to the destiny which is DEATH."
Not so, as that would be an extremely faulty induction. Just because the early universe or the big bang itself may be "chaotic" (Although this term is extremely vague and would qualify for a more rigorous definition) this doesn't mean that the future state of the universe is necessarily going to be so as well (especially considering your glaring lack of evidence for such).
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Glaring lack of evidence? The whole history of the Universe is the evidence. Entropy is observed as a constant. Apparently you don't understand the notion of Universality in the arena of Science as it is traditionally practiced.
There has been NOTHING produced by the scientific community (or by anyone for that matter) that constitutes as scientific evidence which definitively points to a reversal of Entropy.
You're being dis-ingenuous. The very act of survival is religion.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Strawman. I never denied that entropy has always been observed to be increasing in situations defined by a given volume and given surroundings.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
"Strawman. I never denied that entropy has always been observed to be increasing in situations defined by a given volume and given surroundings."
Strawman of a strawman. Volume and surroundings do not define anything regarding Entropy. It's simply a constant that I see in everything presently alive as well as non-living matter. Entropy is Universal.
This is getting petty. I've read your page, and some of the comments. We clearly do not have agreement on Entropy.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Entropy is not constant. The second law of thermodynamics states that entropy is always increasing (in the given universe defined). Although I must say the mathematical demonstration of this was absent from my chemistry course on the subject which I took a few years ago.
Nevertheless, you do understand entropy as Q/T I hope.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Atheists have their gods. they are as abstract as the Theist concepts and thus constitutes equal scrutiny.
Theists serve their God(s) in order to obtain their respective promises of immortality. (resurrection, reincarnation)
These idea's are manifest in the Various Theories of Evolution themselves where Genetic Identity is passed down from generation to another. Hinduism itself contains the Theory of Evolution in the concept of reincarnation.
cont
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual I reiterate: By definition an atheist is someone who lacks belief in a supernatural deity. Whether or not genetic characteristics are passed down through natural selection or any general evolutionary way is irrelevant (given it is a natural process).
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
I just love how you clarified SUPERNATURAL DEITY from just the normal variety of deity. Otherwise, I must be parsing words (albeit with justified suspicion) and you just added redundancies to the word deity...which by it's nature is traditionally viewed by default as supernatural.
Science has been turned into machination of convolutions between religious sophistry and objectivity.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual It was necessary to make clear; As deity is sometimes commonly used to refer to some revered person, one which does necessarily have supernatural powers (eg. Cult of persona of Soviet Leaders).
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
Aside you continue to go into red herring and strawman. To the point where your argument as I have said before reassembles a poem rather then any insightful exposition.
At this point I am having the most difficult of time just following what you are saying. For the sake of maintaing any credulity, I suggest, as I have before, a sharp change in language.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
cont
Cannibalism in the form of Communism/Capitalism is the first false God of the Atheists and even Masons
Evolution is the second false God of Atheists and Theists alike. Royalty down to Hitler (all nazi's) believed in breeding the Master Race by purifying bloodlines (aka genetic purging) and Slave Owners who breed the master race by cultural diversity (genetic diversity).
Artifice is the third false God, of which is built by mortals
cont....
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual How are economic systems the same as a dietary orientation? N"importe quoi...
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
People run on Food. Food is turned into energy. That energy is directed into work. That work is there bought with promisary notes (painted paper) and then the elites partake of the fruits of our labors. :)
I thought you've read Marx...granted, his work isn't original, I mean, Cain slew Able and partook of his labor...which came about because of the energy he received from food. Having someone else digest food in order to do work for, is...hell, you get the point.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Um indeed people do eat food which is then turned into energy (albeit in a rather complex manner) some this energy being mechanical work.
And indeed as Marx and many before him noted, the work performed by the individual is more then the minimum necessary to sustain him, thus the idea of surplus, and how such a thing could be requisitioned by others (be they landlords, capitalists, firms, a government, etc.)
This seems quite irrelevant to the rest of our discussion though.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual And evolution is simply the change in genetic and phenotypic traits. It's a descriptive theory, not a normative one...
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
Atheism as a definition may be THE LACK OF BELIEF OF DEITY but ATHEISTS absolutely do not fit that definition with their actions.
I have given you a short list of people who honestly have tried to obtain immortality without GOD.
Stalin died shaking his fist and cursing God, as accounted by his daughter.
Einstein as well as Shaw promoted the Idea of a Collective Consciousness
ASIMOV HIMSELF PROMOTED THE IDEA OF AN ARTIFICIAL GOD!
These are Atheists, but not in their deeds.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual I reiterate again: An atheist is someone who lacks belief in a supernatural deity. If they do indeed believe in a supernatural (READ: Not natural) deity, then they are by definition not atheists.
"Stalin died shaking his fist and cursing God, as accounted by his daughter."
I would prefer reports on Koba to be backed up by archival evidence, :)
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
1. I think it's safe to say that we agree on the definition, it's just that there are clearly false Atheists out there who promote an Atheist agenda for alternative motives than what they've originally stated. But it was not obvious to you that those quasi-atheists are indeed promoting something that couldn't possible by your standard be construed as religion...which of course gets into the greater conspiracy of Malthusian Theory
2. Your searches brought up nothing?
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual There are indeed obviously atheists who have other motives and beliefs. But those beliefs are dependent on atheism (eg. Someone who wishes to raise the top marginal income tax rate doesn't do so because he lacks belief in a deity).
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
You're going to die, and your life wouldn't have even mattered. No one will be alive to cherish your name. They too will die. Every last etch of your name, will decay along with the ENTROPY of the COSMOS.
Time is of no consequence. There no use postponing the inevitable. All humanity will succumb.
How can you not despair at this absolute future? Only Theists have an answer to such Everlasting Death.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual It doesn't really concern me. I simply place little value on people's memory of me. I have goals, and I will attempt to achieve them. Whether or not they are remembered or cherished or survive my death doesn't bother me all too much.
Even so, if someone despairs about something and then is comforted by believing that some supernatural deity or process exists, it does really mean it exists (argument ad populum).
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
"How do Atheists get by in a Godless world? They artifice their own immortality."
You know it to be true.
Faith in Mortals is just as absurd as Faith in God.
You're going to die, and it never even mattered that you were alive.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Strawman. I do not believe that I am immortal. And my belief that mortals exist is backed up by empirical observation.
"You're going to die, and it never even mattered that you were alive."
Red herring. In fact you are going completely on red herring with your whole argument. I simply defined what it means to be an atheist; Ie. Lacking belief that supernatural deities exist.
It's a dictionary definition.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@Scientisticsoviet
"Life is certainly possible without gods. Methods of living are also not dependent on the existence of a deity in general."
Deity = Providence
Anything you devote yourself to, expecting reciprocation from , is worshiped as a god.
ex: Mammon (God of Money). Form and Manner of worship? Greed, TO GET GAIN, etc.
It's foolish to believe that an artificial system can produce supernatural results.........as in..... results not found naturally....or at all.
LoneIndividual 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Aside, I think it would be useful to transfer this discussion to our walls, so as not to clog up this video any longer.
Scientisticsoviet 4 months ago
@LoneIndividual Who is the one hating?
havocwing910 3 weeks ago
Kefka was inspired by the works of Franz Kafka and Fredrich Nietzsche..(An maybe the Joker) but his nihilism is heavily in the realm of Nietzsche. Still, where do I sign up for the cult cuz I wanna destroy the world and create a monument to nonexistance as well. ^_^
MalignantNarcizzizm 1 year ago
@MalignantNarcizzizm
Just join the Communist Party and you can centralize power to the max....and then...just like Kefka, coup de ta the benevolent dictator...and then press the big shiny button. Afterwards bathing in the ashes of all life while turning the remains of civilization into a massive tower of garbage...and then metaphorically and literally rape the world with your "light of judgment"...technically giving her a facial.
Entertaining, yes? *waits for kefka laughter*
LoneIndividual 11 months ago
@LoneIndividual Slava Sovietsky Soyuz?
Scientisticsoviet 5 months ago
waah whoop-whoop whoop
OXG2221 1 year ago
if i get to hear that laugh again ill join
zombiezoom161 1 year ago
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
ShinShenrron 1 year ago 2
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orangeblossom03 1 year ago
Hmm, I wonder if mdotstrange is a part of this cult. :)
dilps 1 year ago
I'd join this cult, i feel i can really connect with Kefka. i feel as if we have a lot in common.
SerasXHarkonnen 1 year ago
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CRUSHER2983 1 year ago
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@CRUSHER2983 nice try troll
maestermatt 1 year ago
@CRUSHER2983 You realize all of this is a joke, yes?
EmpeorJaden 1 year ago 4
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SerasXHarkonnen 1 year ago
@CRUSHER2983 Ha, someone can't take a joke. I love you thick headed bible thumping jackasses like you.
XixisII 1 year ago
@CRUSHER2983 Yessir, we're really worshipping a fictional character. I have a statue of him in my closet, built out of crushed Fanta cans.
inferno232 1 year ago
@inferno232
lol'd @ Fanta cans
PMS154 1 year ago 4
@CRUSHER2983
Kefka is the epitome of Hate...so don't be a hater unless you want to be like Kefka.
HerrQuixota 1 year ago
@CRUSHER2983 How Christ-like of you. Jesus spent his 33 years hurling capslock profanity at people.
billybones69420 1 year ago
the perfect pet for kefka would be hypnotoad! :D
together they would be unbeatable! xDDD NOONE would dominate the entire universe!!!! °A°
MIsfitsGraves 1 year ago
Muuuusssssttttttt fooooolllloooowwwww kefka...........
sharinganstudios2 1 year ago
I haven't yet got the chance to see the game, but the cosplay was so good that I can't help but WANT to worship Kefka! D:
I...am nothing.
I will die.
Hate is forever.
No one loves me. :(
I'll run, run before I'm well done!
KEFKA!!! YOU HAVE JUST MADE ME A FAN!!! -Looks over shoulder- Er, sorry Sephiroth, but he's just so much cooler than you .____. I still love your hair, though.
YaoiCookie 1 year ago 2
All Hail Lord Kefka!!!~grovels @ Kefka~
xXRiekoRuzakiXx 1 year ago
Kefka will destory all that is impure in the world, follow the great leader, HAIL KEFKA!
draikx3 1 year ago
@draikx3
He will not only destroy what is impure in the world, but the world in its ENTIRETY!
HerrQuixota 1 year ago
i am nothing kefka is everything
TheAntman2006 1 year ago
All Hail God Kefka!! We love you. -rubs my face on his legs- Nyaaaaa!!!!!
0Inuzuka8Kiba0 1 year ago
All hail lord Kefka!
chronodude10 1 year ago 2
Kefka will save this plantet from the disease that is human...
I love it =')
Georgie17xx 2 years ago
@Georgie17xx
He wishes to build a monument to non-existence. I wouldn't say that he wants to save anything from anyone.
HerrQuixota 1 year ago
I was always quick to avoid Kefka's Fallen Angel and attack combo, thank god. Zeromus was just relentless with me. I guess I was just the unlucky one. = /
deadpisser88 2 years ago
what is the name of the music
21hanon 2 years ago
When I first fought kefka on the snes version in like 95 or 96, I was all of 10 years old and he was fucking impossible. It took me two years to beat the game and two more years to beat him. Damn.
Of course, in those days I frowned on gaining xp and would blitz from one boss to the next, only getting xp and gold from random encounters on the way ( many of which I ran from ) The secret to beating any FF villain is to train train train until you have the biggest numbers around!
SanguineUltima 2 years ago
I beat Kefka at levels 37-46. I got lucky, though. I didn't have Ultimate or any of the good stuff people like to spam. I went in with very limited supplies and managed to come out on top.
JenovaMember 2 years ago
Kefka must be the only evil clown-god.
He is whom the Joker worships.
brokeanddrive 2 years ago 52
@brokeanddrive its the source of his power
shotgunguyy 11 months ago
WTF!?
ElFenixdePlata 2 years ago
he needs to be better imo. His costume is a bit...off.... :)
RofllWaffles 2 years ago
His portrayal as Kefka greatly makes up for his costume.
deadpisser88 2 years ago
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Sephiroth>Ultimecia>Kuja>>>>>>>Kefka
INBHJU 2 years ago
You misspelled his name. It's written "Momma's Boy". Boy being his last name.
deadpisser88 2 years ago
KEFKA IS GOD!
HittokiriBattousai17 2 years ago 2
Kefka>God
Nowis46C 2 years ago 4
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!!! HAHAHAHA!!
HittokiriBattousai17 2 years ago
haha a bunch of my friends were forced into the cult of Kefka during a class presentation.
They said it felt like mind rape!
GaaradancepartyX 2 years ago
@GaaradancepartyX what kind of presentation was it?
lazzriel 2 years ago
i don't know i wasn't in the class though i think it was some kind of computer/ tech class
GaaradancepartyX 2 years ago
:3 i love you kefka
holychaosmadness 2 years ago
I heard the way they brainwash the cultists is by giving them Ritalin!
DO YOUR PART! *downs a prescription bottle of Ritalin* All hail Lord Kefka...
N3bu14Gr4y 2 years ago
Sephiroth isn't even worthy of wiping the sand from Kefka's boot. That's how awesome Kefka is.
Dracoa79 2 years ago 8
I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything I am nothing Kefka is everything HATE HATE HATE
ElFreakinCid 2 years ago 2
slay the heathen sephirothinists, their cult calls for incest!
Deathrune456 2 years ago 3
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Fuck..is this that one guy who dresses up like Kefka?
fag
haggardagram 2 years ago
Kefka is the best variation of the Anti-Christ portrayed in any game EVER.
I love how they picked the description of the clown for kefka. Mostly because of the Joker, but also because of the "mockery/joke/abomination" he is represented as when he poses as a GOD.
Also, I think all Atheists would love Kefka. :)
It's something Theists and Atheists can enjoy together. :)
WE CAN BUILD A MONUMENT TO NON-EXISTENCE!
HerrQuixota 2 years ago 57
Im an ATHEIST and I love Kefka =D My dream is to be burned alive by him.
DemonShirubia 2 years ago 2
I am Theist, and I hate Kefka =D My dream is to keep him from burning you alive.
lol.
On second thought...I'll grab some popcorn and have Kefka warm it up for me while I watch you and I burn. :)
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
Nihilism? lol....
strongnoob 1 year ago
@strongnoob
To the unth degree. :)
HerrQuixota 1 year ago
@HerrQuixota It's actually the other way around
havocwing910 4 months ago
If he came to Otakon....
Oh, world domination would be so easy! Imagine all who would bow to his mercy there!
crawlerkat 2 years ago
Kefka is god.
Exkalipoor 2 years ago
All hail Lord Kefka. I will give all my possesions to Lord Kefka in return for him sparing my life.
masterlinkx101 2 years ago 5
kefka will save this planet OF the disease that is human....
kodeetheregulator 2 years ago 3
hail kefka the rule of the world
Jadenyuki6 2 years ago 5
Kefka Owns badly
wolfman6696 2 years ago
i
want
to
meet
KEFKA!!!!
COMETO BOSTON!!!
ed4409 2 years ago
Must... Kill.... Human...
GaMEChld 2 years ago
all hail Kefka,Kefka is all, marry me Kefka
coterack 2 years ago
... Suddenly I am a self-hating Kefka-worshipping nihilist.
Agh, fuck, no, resist! D:
DrSandweech 2 years ago
May Kefka rid us of life (we are nothing)
LetsBurnJillings 2 years ago 2
Jillings, you're becoming a bit too obsessed now...
Dart616 2 years ago
Kefka was one of very few villians, if not the ONLY villian, in final fantasy history, who did what he set out to do, and SUCCEEDED...HAAAAAAAIILL Kefka!!!
JamesThurmond25 2 years ago 2
well, technically Chaos/Garland and Ultimecia kinda achieved what they aimed for (Revenge and Time Compression) but Kefka was absolute evil and thats why he's Kewler.
Sephirothwolf 2 years ago 2
And I bet you've never even played 11 like I have.
Everyone has different opinions though. I like FF7 better, but I think Kefka is pretty awesome :o.
Axiaon 2 years ago
Heil kefka o/
netman446 2 years ago
the returners > kefka
crapfromthestreet 2 years ago
AHEM. There's sand in my boots!
DropletOfSour 2 years ago
YES.
HuggalotXOmocha 2 years ago
Our Lord Kefka is 100% pixelicious and doesn't need his Mama to fight his battles and kill people for him, Sephiroth is a wuss and i blame his parents, especially Jenova for murdering Shinra and getting the black materia for him. LONG LIVE THE CULT OF KEFKA!
Sephirothwolf 2 years ago 2
no.
Axiaon 2 years ago
12 FANBOY! *evil glare* try playing the Fianl Fantasy games BEFORE 7! 4, 6, 8, 1 and 11 are all better.
Sephirothwolf 2 years ago
I have played them all. So, your comment is meh.
Axiaon 2 years ago
blah, i admit it, i am a 12 fanboy, along with all of the other ff's
supertrinko 2 years ago
I am nothing, Kefka is everything...
I am nothing, Kefka is everything...
I am nothing, Kefka is everything...
I am nothing, Kefka is everything...
I am nothing, Kefka is everything...
I am nothing, Kefka is everything...
Nowis46C 2 years ago 10
"You are not a unique snowflake"
HAIL KEFKA!
nastyguard007 2 years ago 5
Aaaaahhhhh, subliminal messages! They have brainwashed me.
But hey, now that my brain is washed, it smells nice!
BarrytheChopperfan14 2 years ago 4
I recently beat FFVI, and Kefka is much harder than Sephiroth. The only thing that the little bastard had on me was three Super Novas. They were tedious but not threatening. Kefka, on the other hand, took me 3-4 hours of failures before I finally beat him. I went in with minimal everything. My levels were 35-45, no good magic like Ultima, and no good weapons or extras. For those saying that Sephiroth is more powerful than Kefka, I have to kindly disagree...
JenovaMember 2 years ago 2
both are pretty damn hard if you aren't prepared. Likewise, both are ridiculously easy if you have your shit together.
I do think Kefka's final form is ten times cooler, though. Divine Comedy reference, in MY Final Fantasy??? MORE PLEASE!
KayneArcheron 2 years ago 2
Kefka's battle was longer than Sephiroth's, that's for sure. It's a 4 part battle whereas in VII it was only 2 part (well... you can count Jenova-Synthesis, I guess).
Did you go in with "minimal everything" fighting Sephiroth, as well? To have a honest comparison on who was harder.
Either way, those two (along with the final dungeons themselves) are nothing compared to Zeromus and his respective dungeon. Much harder. All the fucker had to do was use Big Bang. Ugh...
deadpisser88 2 years ago
When I fought Sephiroth, I didn't have Omnislash or any of the level 4 Limit Breaks. My characters had high HP thanks to many HP Plus Materias; however, HP doesn't really matter in that battle. I didn't have my Materia leveled up all that much, and I definitely didn't have any Ultimate Weapons. Sephiroth was a long fight (Kefka was longer), but the most threatening thing he did was Super Nova me three times. Kefka took me four hours of miserable failures until I finally conquered him...
JenovaMember 2 years ago
Ok then.
Honestly, the battle with Safer Sephiroth was, in my view, psychological all because of the One Winged Angel. It was epic, but it had a psychological impact on me where I just went "oh fuck...." when you hear the first notes. That's what made him seem hard at first, along with his Super Nova and other spells. Of course, this only works on the player 1-2 times tops. He ain't hard at all after you get over the song.
That's just my take, anyway.
deadpisser88 2 years ago
Yeah, I know Sephiroth is easy. I'm just tired of people saying Kefka is easier than Sephiroth. The people who say that spammed Ultima and used Locke + Genji Glove + Ultima Weapon x2 + Master Scroll. Sephiroth is much easier than Kefka.
JenovaMember 2 years ago
But like I said, Zeromus is harder than the both of them.
BIG BANG!
BIG BANG!
BIG BANG!
deadpisser88 2 years ago
Really? I beat Zeromus on my second try. He's really not all that hard. Big Bang is manageable with Curaja healing you the next turn. The only thing you really have to worry about is the possibility of a double Meteor. I got hit with that one time and died :(.
JenovaMember 2 years ago
20 FUCKING TIMES FOR ME!! AND YES, METEOR SPAMMING WHORE!!! JESUS CHRIST, I TRY TO GET THE UPPER HAND BUT EVERYTIME HE TAKES DOWN ROSA AND CECIL!! AND I'M RACING TO GET THE PHOENIX DOWNS ON THEM BUT FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!
This was when I was at relatively high levels (over 60). I'd like to see someone attempt to beat him at the lowest level possible. I don't know which version was harder (was it the DS or did they dumb that down?), but fuck man. He ain't fun to fight.
deadpisser88 2 years ago
@deadpisser88
Well, the DS version is probably easier with the Phoenix Augment. I put that on Kain, and when he dies, he revives everybody else (as long as he has MP). I always thought the SNES version was easier (people made it look easy), but I think the DS version Zeromus is much easier because of the Augments.
JenovaMember 2 years ago
I never played the SNES version. I played the Playstation port, FF Chronicles.
deadpisser88 2 years ago
@deadpisser88
Ugh, no wonder... He's the hardest on that one from what I've heard. Trust me, he's much easier on the DS version.
JenovaMember 2 years ago
Ha. Lucky me...
deadpisser88 2 years ago
Fail troll is fail.
AngelofKaos 2 years ago
What? = /
deadpisser88 2 years ago
Hey Kefka...I'll help you kill that mama's boy!
FraggedMind 2 years ago 2
Hihihihihihihihihihihi!!!!
Nothing can beat the sound of thousands of voice´s screaming at unison!!
HittokiriBattousai17 2 years ago 3
i am yours lord kefka being killed by you would be an honour
superkefkacosplay 2 years ago
I wanna join!
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MrKarlozz 2 years ago
Kefka is so funny... I like him! U know why? Because he's a terrible bastard but STILL u can make fun of him and laugh at what he does and says... even if u'll have u're head cut off after that!
Qtro 2 years ago
I WANNA JOIN!
Kefka will rule the world!
MiracleKD18 2 years ago