I was really wondered. Why the fuck do they have to kill those oliphant instead of killing its rider and control it themself... Tolkin never mentioned in his lore that those olipant are evil (like ther warg) or something like that....
@MariusThePaladin Have you tried controlling an elephant? They only obey what their masters (by which I mean the ones who have trained and raised them) tell them to do.
@GortonMichael I have never been and never tried to contolled one... but I think I understand what you said D:Elephant here is really loyal to their master, yeah...
People should realise that this is a fantasy film made to look and be epic, not be realistic. What would be epic about the Rohirrim retreating into the city and watching the Haradrim wander around while they pelt them with arrows, or the Rohirrim circle round the Oliphants and attack their flanks with arrows? That's boring. Epic charges should be epic, not realistic!
@jackamatyus remember that they did not kill all the orcs outside the city walls, neither did they do anything about the city (which was swarming with orcs. Imagine riding into the city and standing still fighting spear-men while you are on horseback , no charging from the front was actually the only choice they had as they couldn't risk the orcs getting to organized again. And circling around them wouldn't have worked either because remember that there was nazguls riding fell beasts in the sky.
@TheVasilcin you've obviously misunderstood my point.
But for clarification, I wasn't suggesting they ride into the city, I quite obviously meant occupy it and use it to launch arrows from. They could quite easily dismount and fight into the city.
And circling would work perfectly, especially against such a slow moving and spread out enemy. Also, the same amount of soldiers would be in the same amount of space, just in a different area. Therefore the Nazgul point is moot.
@jackamatyus ok let's say they dismount and move into the city, you think they could win over the enemies that where already in the city? i think not. And the nazgul point is anything but moot, because the area of fighting play in greatly, by that i mean that the nazgul probably would have a harder time getting down and killing people between the legs of the mumakil than they would have in an open field. But since what we argue about didn't happen we can't rule the other one out, so goodbye :)
my opinion is that the evil represents the old communist styled military, that didnt care about losses on their side, friendly fire, etc. the only goal is to win, period. regardless of thus mentioned.
@rosydonut It was a group project. One group per Oliphant and they were graded on appearance, and kill ratio. The barb rope between the tusks obviously won the contest. They received an A.
Making a vote for the good warriors here they...Gondorians,Rohan,Dunedain,GreyCompany,Arnor,Faramir's Rangers,Knights of Dol Amoroth,Guards of the fountain court,Army of the Dead,Numorean Warriors,WoodElves,Galadhrim Warriors
@roccomedy i vote for the Noldor. (shown in the battle of the last alliance) best soldiers in LotR HANDS DOWN. thousnds of years of experience realy pay off XD....plus they look kick ass
@roccomedy Morgoth. But seriously, in the time of LOTR it has to be Aragorn's Dunedain of the North. In the entire history, Feanor's company of Noldor. The best single feat of arms in the entire history i can think of is Glorfindel's slaying of Gothmog, Lord of the Balrogs.
Guys im posting a vote on this video and so i want to know which of the evil warriors are the best here are the people... Haradrim, Easterlings, Khandish:note not in movie, Morannon, Morgul, Mordor, Uruk-hai, Goblins, Corsairs of Umbar Vote now!:3
Haha! A wise general knows when he should attack or retreat. If not those undead had come to help them i can assure you that we would be Sauron's servants right know :D
As someone mentioned so is Cavalary not made for frontal attacks against enemies who are prepared. One should try to attack them from the flanks or behind. Or make a suprise attack.
@VictumRoManius No single unit is able to make a frontal attack on a enemy who is prepared. cavalry, infantry, archers. it doesnt matter. when an emeny is prepared you shouldn't fight him. instead, you should disrupt him. lure him into traps, spreading havoc among their lines. and elephants make excelent frontline troops. almost no enemy is able to fight a concentrated elephant force. that is why hannibal made such huge successes. (and yes I know his elepants where destroyed in his last battle)
@joeyka12 Dude, i believe you have read the book "The art of War" from Sun Tzu. Because that is exactly what Master Sun Tzu wold do say. And you are right. ;)
@VictumRoManius Yes indeed i have. I happen to knopw quite a lot about millitary warfare and Sun Tzu or "Master Sun" is one of the wisest people who have wandered this world. And im not right, Sun Tzu is. Im merely reproducing his words.
@GortonMichael A force that wasn't prepared. They had around 5,999 men in the army, and taking those things head on was disastrous, I would have split up and flanked, not as epic, but there wouldn't have been nearly as many people dying.
@GortonMichael No, they could have easily circled around them and attacked with arrows. Surely some oliphaunts would be able to turn and use their tusks like they did here, but they were obviously designed to inflict massive amounts of damage in a single straight line. The charge was paramount to suicide.
I thought we were talking about the main orc army. That's what I was talking about..
But anyway, about the oliphants, yeah I agree they should have at least tried to flank them, but if they did, the haradrim drivers would just turn and mow them down anyway. You'd get less casulties, sure. But still many. (As you said)
@GortonMichael Not if they completely split up and attacked on the sides, the Mumakil* would have been pretty disoriented and if they had to turn it would make those devastating sweeps awkward to accomplish. Not as epic though, so who can blame them?
@pat5168 "Mumakil*" Ah, yes, that's what they're called, ty.
Agree with the fact that as a film it had to be like that.
But if you seen the scene, the Mumakil can go FAST. They look like 5x the speed of the horses. I'm pretty sure that in the time it takes for them to close, the drivers would have enough tims to realise what's going on and turn.
But meh. I don't really care. I was talking about it being impossible to flank the huge orc army.
i think the best way would've been for them to retreat into the city. the oliphants will only be able to go inside single-file through the gate, if at all. not to mention they won't be maneuverable within the city streets
@endlsswing if they would have retreated they would have been so fucking owned, there was still very many orcs left and not to mention the haradrim archers whom where among the elite. no theoden did the right thing in the open rohan is very good because of the superb cavalry but dismounted they dont stand a chance that outnumberd.
after reviewing the scenes, the olliphants definitely could NOT have fit through with that thing on their backs. if haradrim were great archers, then that means close quarters combat inside the city would give them a disadvantage (they HAVE to dismount to get inside). rohan's horsemen don't have to dismount when they get inside the city gates. in the two towers they proved they're quite capable of fighting and charging through hordes of orcs through helms deep.
@endlsswing Yeah, but cavalry ALWAYS is better out in the open. Furthermore, retreating inside the city puts them back in the same situation as before the arrival of the Rohirram- they'd be stuck inside, waiting for the orcs and trolls to break through. Theoden couldn't retreat, and with an army his size, he couldn't turn his horses to ride around the Haradrim- his best option was to charge, and use whatever soldiers made it through the elephants to continue chasing the orcs.
@endlsswing Well actually in the books Eomer leads the charge after he sees that Theoden and Eowyn died(though she did not die) He shouts Death Death Death and without waiting Gondor troops form city charges. OH btw there were no ghosts in Battle of Pelenor. Aragorn crushed corsars and released ghosts. He gathered Gondor troops from Pelagir and other nearby cities.
@templar684 You are absolutely right. But please remember that this is a movie. In movies people always change a few things to make it more exciting to watch. If the makers would have let aragorn arrive with gondorian reinforcements the film would have last about 15 minutes longer. not to mention that with those undead spreading the battlefield it was way cooler. (it also made the battle of Minas Tirith in LOTR Battle For Middle Earth PC game a lot easier:D)
@endlsswing And do what? Let the at least 50,000 Orcs retreating regroup and renew their assault, while they wait in the city, dismounted, without their greatest weapon (cavalry charge), waiting for the overwhelming enemy force to crush them? Theoden did what was best at the time and won the battle with his move. The Rohirrim suffered heavy casualties to make sure Middle Earth is free...
@minotaur878 yeah there's no denying that :P And the Dunedain are also more comfortable with swords while the elves prefer long knives. I love them both. But if I were to choose what race I could be in Middle Earth I'd still pick elves. They never get sick, and I hate being sick...
I'm trying to figure out what makes the haradrim's horn noise. the rohorrim sounds just like a shofar. does anyone know what makes the haradrim's sound? i want one...
The Rohirrim charging the Mumakil was a damn STUPID move. Historically, elephants have been used as anti-cavalry units. Now elephants 5 times the size of a normal one would be an even more efficient cavalry neutralizer.
As for the Mumaks, your life is at peril, you see monsters you've never seen before, they are coming for you at frightening rate, you can't quickly take a cellphone to call your lieutenants to run around the beasts and the siege of Gondor must be broken by you. Rational thinking is not so simple under those circumstances and the horsemen could try and run around at risk of being flanked themselves. That being said, attack an antheap I bet you can kill many, but not hundreds.
Let's draw the situation. Gondor's people needs urgent aid.
Shooting off a distance with arrows would probably lead to even greater disaster since the enemy is more numerous and also armed with bows also it would take too long. The enemy can turn part of it's army towards yours and slowly crush you to a standstill. Your men are war-hardened cavalrymen. If not for that, seeing so many horses storm towards 'em will defenitely scare the crap out of the enemy. The charge seemed a pretty sound idea.
This I dont understand, why couldn't the haradrim just run away, if there is no horses, the elephants are of no use. What are they gonna do? Attack the walls?
@LordNisse111 the Oliphaunts are mobile seige towers. Plus they were used as a counter to fight of any incoming Free People's army from completely retaking the Pelenor fields. The Harad were the Hidden card and they pretty much pwned a huge amount of cavalry. Also the height of the Oliphonts could be utilized so that archers could shoot from the Oliphonts. But basically they were just used a counter assault unit.
well the Rohirrim never rly used any tactics just before the Olliphants, they charged against a line of Pikeman and Archers, they only won by pure mass
yeah that never made sense to me...why in the world would you run straight at something 5 times your size designed to kill people in front of it? and all as a large group?
@MattyIsCool96 no, they were just basically not giving a damn anymore, there were ridin for death and glory. killin a mumakil would get you a hell of a lot of glory lol
@MattyIsCool96 i dont think they had anyother option in taht moment, except from wating untill they get smshed between the walls of minas thirit and the mumakil ;P
Just throwing this out there, but you know for the sake of argument, wouldn't it have been better for Theodan to charge, instead of at the Mumakil, but into the city? The mumakil wouldn't be able to do anything, they're not tall enough to get over the walls, and they're too large to be useful inside Minas Tirith anyways..? lol... Still LOTR is awesome.
my friend there are some reasons why they didn't go in...
they were less than a minute away... so it's dificult for almost 6 thousand horsemen to go through the gate especialy when there are thousands of orcs and monsters there
of course they killed their own soliders. its because they are evil! the ones that make the movies wants to make you hate/dislike the evil characters so that you wont get angry when they die. simple.
I was but a 10 year-old boy when I saw this scene, and the second I heard that horn sound at 0:08 , saw their Giant mumakils and their totally imbah über cool-looking archers on top of the Mumakils (I MEAN THEIR FRIKKIN' ARCHERS, ON TOP OF GIANT ELEPHANTS!!!) I knew I loved the Haradrim ^^
I'd like to have one of these as a pet and ride it through traffic, mobs, small children and cats. And the Kardashians.
lumkiletyesi 6 hours ago
I was really wondered. Why the fuck do they have to kill those oliphant instead of killing its rider and control it themself... Tolkin never mentioned in his lore that those olipant are evil (like ther warg) or something like that....
MariusThePaladin 2 weeks ago
@MariusThePaladin Have you tried controlling an elephant? They only obey what their masters (by which I mean the ones who have trained and raised them) tell them to do.
Now imagine that times 10.
GortonMichael 1 week ago
@GortonMichael I have never been and never tried to contolled one... but I think I understand what you said D:Elephant here is really loyal to their master, yeah...
MariusThePaladin 1 week ago
I hope people actually realise this isn't what happened
alal249 4 months ago
he is a team killer! lol
ruan6774 5 months ago
A soldier had Boromir's grunt
TheLatiosnlatias02 5 months ago
Betrayel
Betrayed
Trev0Rear 5 months ago
People should realise that this is a fantasy film made to look and be epic, not be realistic. What would be epic about the Rohirrim retreating into the city and watching the Haradrim wander around while they pelt them with arrows, or the Rohirrim circle round the Oliphants and attack their flanks with arrows? That's boring. Epic charges should be epic, not realistic!
jackamatyus 5 months ago 4
@jackamatyus remember that they did not kill all the orcs outside the city walls, neither did they do anything about the city (which was swarming with orcs. Imagine riding into the city and standing still fighting spear-men while you are on horseback , no charging from the front was actually the only choice they had as they couldn't risk the orcs getting to organized again. And circling around them wouldn't have worked either because remember that there was nazguls riding fell beasts in the sky.
TheVasilcin 4 months ago
@TheVasilcin you've obviously misunderstood my point.
But for clarification, I wasn't suggesting they ride into the city, I quite obviously meant occupy it and use it to launch arrows from. They could quite easily dismount and fight into the city.
And circling would work perfectly, especially against such a slow moving and spread out enemy. Also, the same amount of soldiers would be in the same amount of space, just in a different area. Therefore the Nazgul point is moot.
jackamatyus 4 months ago
@jackamatyus but again, you have obviously misunderstood my point. There's no point arguing about realism. It's a frickin' film.
jackamatyus 4 months ago
@jackamatyus ok let's say they dismount and move into the city, you think they could win over the enemies that where already in the city? i think not. And the nazgul point is anything but moot, because the area of fighting play in greatly, by that i mean that the nazgul probably would have a harder time getting down and killing people between the legs of the mumakil than they would have in an open field. But since what we argue about didn't happen we can't rule the other one out, so goodbye :)
TheVasilcin 4 months ago
@TheVasilcin Well done for reachingm and reiterating on, the same point that I made four weeks ago. Goodbye.
jackamatyus 4 months ago
That guy can shoot spears from his bow. He must be chuck norris in disguise
crewmannumber7 6 months ago
my opinion is that the evil represents the old communist styled military, that didnt care about losses on their side, friendly fire, etc. the only goal is to win, period. regardless of thus mentioned.
Gizziiusa 7 months ago
1:14 That was one big-ass arrow he had.
MyWorstEnemy96 7 months ago
this is such an epic moment, LOTR4EVER
smithy8u 7 months ago
this wasfreaking funny xD
F0ck93 7 months ago
They should have put the barbed wire that extends from tusk to tusk on all the Oliphants, it would've killed way more people.
rosydonut 7 months ago
@rosydonut It was a group project. One group per Oliphant and they were graded on appearance, and kill ratio. The barb rope between the tusks obviously won the contest. They received an A.
PatronSaint210 7 months ago
frodo was killed in the lord of the rings aswell
DbagProfessor 7 months ago
@MultiG999 the olifant don't gets headshot
TheShinonuma123 7 months ago
the olifant gets headshot...
MultiG999 8 months ago
theyre playing chicken
IonlyWriteComments 8 months ago
Based on his military strategy probably for the best that Theoden didn't stay the King of Rohan
Mowens65 8 months ago
@Mowens65 Based on your retarded comment probably the best that you get banned from Youtube
Cutpurse3 8 months ago
@Cutpurse3 YEAH PROBABLY! : D
Mowens65 8 months ago
TEAM KILLER !
Musketeer17Century 8 months ago
i think i heard a rohirim singing when he was threw away by that mumakill : I BELIVE I CAN FLY !
teostere 9 months ago
@teostere LAME JOKE! ¬¬
dermor18 7 months ago
@dermor18 fuck u !
teostere 6 months ago
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@teostere eat my shit !!
dermor18 6 months ago
i wonder how big there crap is!
kaptinfancy 11 months ago
That is what i call Deathmatch.
KrakenFromBlackSea 11 months ago
good fake
TheBlackrainShow 1 year ago
nice editing
happyroflmonkey 1 year ago
Wow! They're about as efficient as stormtroopers!
GronHatchat 1 year ago
Making a vote for the good warriors here they...Gondorians,Rohan,Dunedain,GreyCompany,Arnor,Faramir's Rangers,Knights of Dol Amoroth,Guards of the fountain court,Army of the Dead,Numorean Warriors,WoodElves,Galadhrim Warriors
Vote Now!
roccomedy 1 year ago
@roccomedy faramir rangers. they arent efective in open batles, put great for ambush with no or very few casualties.
they have a good killing ratio.
if someone says the dead, remember they can only be used ONCE.
Francisco19031994 11 months ago
@roccomedy i vote for the Noldor. (shown in the battle of the last alliance) best soldiers in LotR HANDS DOWN. thousnds of years of experience realy pay off XD....plus they look kick ass
nastrael 11 months ago
@roccomedy Morgoth. But seriously, in the time of LOTR it has to be Aragorn's Dunedain of the North. In the entire history, Feanor's company of Noldor. The best single feat of arms in the entire history i can think of is Glorfindel's slaying of Gothmog, Lord of the Balrogs.
aaronsdavis 10 months ago
@aaronsdavis
How about Fingolfin taking on Morgoth himself and almost winning?
susumu07 8 months ago
@aaronsdavis Gothmog wasn't killed by Glorfindel... he dueled Ecthelion of the Fountain during the siege of Gondolin and they both died...
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roccomedy 1 year ago
Haha! A wise general knows when he should attack or retreat. If not those undead had come to help them i can assure you that we would be Sauron's servants right know :D
As someone mentioned so is Cavalary not made for frontal attacks against enemies who are prepared. One should try to attack them from the flanks or behind. Or make a suprise attack.
Anyways sorry for my off-topic talking.
LOTR and Tolkien are awesome!
VictumRoManius 1 year ago 20
@VictumRoManius No single unit is able to make a frontal attack on a enemy who is prepared. cavalry, infantry, archers. it doesnt matter. when an emeny is prepared you shouldn't fight him. instead, you should disrupt him. lure him into traps, spreading havoc among their lines. and elephants make excelent frontline troops. almost no enemy is able to fight a concentrated elephant force. that is why hannibal made such huge successes. (and yes I know his elepants where destroyed in his last battle)
joeyka12 5 months ago
@joeyka12 Dude, i believe you have read the book "The art of War" from Sun Tzu. Because that is exactly what Master Sun Tzu wold do say. And you are right. ;)
VictumRoManius 5 months ago
@VictumRoManius Yes indeed i have. I happen to knopw quite a lot about millitary warfare and Sun Tzu or "Master Sun" is one of the wisest people who have wandered this world. And im not right, Sun Tzu is. Im merely reproducing his words.
joeyka12 5 months ago
@joeyka12 Amen to that. ;)
VictumRoManius 5 months ago
@VictumRoManius When your entire army is cavalry though, you don't have much of an option.
But, considering they have like ten thousand or more,that charge would have completely crushed pretty much any force.
As it did.
GortonMichael 1 month ago
@GortonMichael A force that wasn't prepared. They had around 5,999 men in the army, and taking those things head on was disastrous, I would have split up and flanked, not as epic, but there wouldn't have been nearly as many people dying.
pat5168 1 week ago
@pat5168 Flanked what? The army was covering the space between Minas Tirith and Osgiliath. No matter where they attacked, they'd get the same result.
GortonMichael 1 week ago
@GortonMichael No, they could have easily circled around them and attacked with arrows. Surely some oliphaunts would be able to turn and use their tusks like they did here, but they were obviously designed to inflict massive amounts of damage in a single straight line. The charge was paramount to suicide.
pat5168 1 week ago
@pat5168 Oh, we're talking about the oliphants?
I thought we were talking about the main orc army. That's what I was talking about..
But anyway, about the oliphants, yeah I agree they should have at least tried to flank them, but if they did, the haradrim drivers would just turn and mow them down anyway. You'd get less casulties, sure. But still many. (As you said)
GortonMichael 6 days ago
@GortonMichael Not if they completely split up and attacked on the sides, the Mumakil* would have been pretty disoriented and if they had to turn it would make those devastating sweeps awkward to accomplish. Not as epic though, so who can blame them?
pat5168 6 days ago
@pat5168 "Mumakil*" Ah, yes, that's what they're called, ty.
Agree with the fact that as a film it had to be like that.
But if you seen the scene, the Mumakil can go FAST. They look like 5x the speed of the horses. I'm pretty sure that in the time it takes for them to close, the drivers would have enough tims to realise what's going on and turn.
But meh. I don't really care. I was talking about it being impossible to flank the huge orc army.
GortonMichael 6 days ago
Friendly Fire, Friendly Fire !!! XD
SchukiMaluki 1 year ago
so what are the haradrim exactly?
danguhz0n3 1 year ago
@danguhz0n3 nnomadic tribe tribe to the far east who decided to serve sauran to avoid ass rapeage and a promise of a ring
hellsingownzfool 1 year ago 2
@hellsingownzfool Far south actually.
nofatlip 1 year ago
@nofatlip I knew was thinking of someone else damn thanks for the info though xP
hellsingownzfool 1 year ago
@hellsingownzfool best summary ever, not even joking bro
banmen0w 7 months ago
i think the best way would've been for them to retreat into the city. the oliphants will only be able to go inside single-file through the gate, if at all. not to mention they won't be maneuverable within the city streets
endlsswing 1 year ago 30
@endlsswing Absolutely. It was brave and all, but Theoden king was a piss poor general. Hell, if he wanted to attack that badly, why head on?
latinoheat300 1 year ago
@endlsswing if they would have retreated they would have been so fucking owned, there was still very many orcs left and not to mention the haradrim archers whom where among the elite. no theoden did the right thing in the open rohan is very good because of the superb cavalry but dismounted they dont stand a chance that outnumberd.
TheVasilcin 1 year ago
@TheVasilcin
after reviewing the scenes, the olliphants definitely could NOT have fit through with that thing on their backs. if haradrim were great archers, then that means close quarters combat inside the city would give them a disadvantage (they HAVE to dismount to get inside). rohan's horsemen don't have to dismount when they get inside the city gates. in the two towers they proved they're quite capable of fighting and charging through hordes of orcs through helms deep.
endlsswing 1 year ago
@endlsswing Yeah, but cavalry ALWAYS is better out in the open. Furthermore, retreating inside the city puts them back in the same situation as before the arrival of the Rohirram- they'd be stuck inside, waiting for the orcs and trolls to break through. Theoden couldn't retreat, and with an army his size, he couldn't turn his horses to ride around the Haradrim- his best option was to charge, and use whatever soldiers made it through the elephants to continue chasing the orcs.
TelleoStar 1 year ago
@endlsswing Well actually in the books Eomer leads the charge after he sees that Theoden and Eowyn died(though she did not die) He shouts Death Death Death and without waiting Gondor troops form city charges. OH btw there were no ghosts in Battle of Pelenor. Aragorn crushed corsars and released ghosts. He gathered Gondor troops from Pelagir and other nearby cities.
templar684 6 months ago
@templar684 You are absolutely right. But please remember that this is a movie. In movies people always change a few things to make it more exciting to watch. If the makers would have let aragorn arrive with gondorian reinforcements the film would have last about 15 minutes longer. not to mention that with those undead spreading the battlefield it was way cooler. (it also made the battle of Minas Tirith in LOTR Battle For Middle Earth PC game a lot easier:D)
joeyka12 5 months ago
@endlsswing And do what? Let the at least 50,000 Orcs retreating regroup and renew their assault, while they wait in the city, dismounted, without their greatest weapon (cavalry charge), waiting for the overwhelming enemy force to crush them? Theoden did what was best at the time and won the battle with his move. The Rohirrim suffered heavy casualties to make sure Middle Earth is free...
M1cool1 6 months ago
i LOOOOVE the haradrim horn xD i want it xDxD
chiloooooo 1 year ago
LOTR4EVER :**
19mateosz91 1 year ago 4
i dont want to clean there crap lol
ZombieHntr15 1 year ago
@ZombieHntr15 Their crap is probably used as amunition for catapults. Getting hit by a 10 tonne peice of crap would kill you.
GrrrIamMad 1 year ago
@GrrrIamMad LOL
ZombieHntr15 1 year ago
Wheres the sad music and gimlis ooops reaction?
chevyracer4 1 year ago
rohirim got the smack in their pussies...HARADRIM 4eva!
uzickismrad 1 year ago
Haradrim archers is the best archers after rangers..............
SerbianDeathDealer 1 year ago
@SerbianDeathDealer Actually Rangers stillcome second to Elven Archers of the elven realms Lothlorien and Mirkwood.
orliluvr1432 1 year ago
@orliluvr1432 Yeah but the dunedain are still awesome.
minotaur878 1 year ago
@minotaur878 yeah there's no denying that :P And the Dunedain are also more comfortable with swords while the elves prefer long knives. I love them both. But if I were to choose what race I could be in Middle Earth I'd still pick elves. They never get sick, and I hate being sick...
orliluvr1432 1 year ago
@SerbianDeathDealer noway, elfs are the best
maseAK47 1 year ago
@SerbianDeathDealer after elves and rangers
HappyDaysRUs1 1 year ago
@SerbianDeathDealer They are THE best archers 2nd only to elves... Who practice for 200 years o_o
nyhmrocks1 1 year ago
Yes that is part of the army and I said the main Orc army, you'll know what I mean soon
iKhicken 1 year ago
u know what they should have done, rig a mumakil with a balistae on it
paydafee 1 year ago
The fact they called them Oliphants is really annoying - they're Mumakils :S
JagoReedJones 1 year ago 3
no to be really annoying it's only mumakil they are called mumak in singular
vomitbrown 1 year ago
Seriously charging is a stupid idiot. Fire that general!! Use fire arrows or something or ballistias!!!
JacobTheIndoAmerican 1 year ago
I'm trying to figure out what makes the haradrim's horn noise. the rohorrim sounds just like a shofar. does anyone know what makes the haradrim's sound? i want one...
nkognitoh 1 year ago
My favorite part of that scene is when the guy gets stomped on by a mumakil, gets me everytime, like, what did you think would happen?
TheAndiePerson 1 year ago
@TheAndiePerson you would see a pancake on the floor...a bloody one with a horse, person, and all the guts and armor all smashed
sirtyeson1 1 year ago
You gotta love when large ceatures collide and fall to teh ground
gadduste 1 year ago
instant roti prata.
karmapolice247 1 year ago
The Rohirrim charging the Mumakil was a damn STUPID move. Historically, elephants have been used as anti-cavalry units. Now elephants 5 times the size of a normal one would be an even more efficient cavalry neutralizer.
Diemedes 1 year ago
bad editing.....
caibarien71 1 year ago
This would have been so much more fun if the Rohirrim had rocket launchers...
stelvak 1 year ago
haha, that just shows just how bad those archers are at aiming.
AmaterasuSpiritWolf 1 year ago
As for the Mumaks, your life is at peril, you see monsters you've never seen before, they are coming for you at frightening rate, you can't quickly take a cellphone to call your lieutenants to run around the beasts and the siege of Gondor must be broken by you. Rational thinking is not so simple under those circumstances and the horsemen could try and run around at risk of being flanked themselves. That being said, attack an antheap I bet you can kill many, but not hundreds.
diekerel 1 year ago
Let's draw the situation. Gondor's people needs urgent aid.
Shooting off a distance with arrows would probably lead to even greater disaster since the enemy is more numerous and also armed with bows also it would take too long. The enemy can turn part of it's army towards yours and slowly crush you to a standstill. Your men are war-hardened cavalrymen. If not for that, seeing so many horses storm towards 'em will defenitely scare the crap out of the enemy. The charge seemed a pretty sound idea.
diekerel 1 year ago
This I dont understand, why couldn't the haradrim just run away, if there is no horses, the elephants are of no use. What are they gonna do? Attack the walls?
LordNisse111 1 year ago
@LordNisse111 the Oliphaunts are mobile seige towers. Plus they were used as a counter to fight of any incoming Free People's army from completely retaking the Pelenor fields. The Harad were the Hidden card and they pretty much pwned a huge amount of cavalry. Also the height of the Oliphonts could be utilized so that archers could shoot from the Oliphonts. But basically they were just used a counter assault unit.
SUPERBAD119 1 year ago
That horn is AWESOME! I want one
LordNisse111 1 year ago
how much rohirim horses where there left when they begun fighting the oliphaunts?
and how many of them survived that batttle? :P
codymurdoch1 1 year ago
@codymurdoch1 before fighting: a lot
After fighting: still quite a lot
greenracoon505 1 year ago
well the Rohirrim never rly used any tactics just before the Olliphants, they charged against a line of Pikeman and Archers, they only won by pure mass
derNeue2 2 years ago 2
Yeah, they're much mobile, they shold've evade them, then attack from the back or the rear, 3 times the chance they'll last longer.
SzakacsFerenc 2 years ago
yeah that never made sense to me...why in the world would you run straight at something 5 times your size designed to kill people in front of it? and all as a large group?
YouTub3Usernam3 2 years ago 3
I think its mainly because Theoden was having his midlife crisis and was determined to die in battle ;-)
TheBiggestBiscuit 2 years ago 4
RUN AWAY RUN AWAY, fall bak to te city
burnticeblues 2 years ago 5
lol
JippiiX3 2 years ago
Try putting one of those Olliphants in the zoo
nickcarterroxs 2 years ago 46
0:08 god i love that horn!!! :P
kingmcbrian 2 years ago 3
That charge wasn't a great idea if you ask me.
TarEldamir 2 years ago
the rohirrim are smart, lets take 20 giant elephant things on head on and see what happens!!
i know they're called mumakil or oliphont
MattyIsCool96 2 years ago 44
20 mumaks took like 3000 rohirims? there were 6000 rohirims wich arrived to battle and mumaks killed many of them
REXXORDER 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96
oliphaunts not oliphont
hahahi20 1 year ago
@hahahi20 gawd sorryyy :)
MattyIsCool96 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 they should have used archers from a range
97Wc 1 year ago
@97Wc hmm yes, come to think about it, wth happened to all the orcs that ran behind the oliphaunts.? they too wimpy to re-enter the fray?
MattyIsCool96 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 they went back to fight the rohhirim but they werent that useful
97Wc 1 year ago
@97Wc lol oh yeah i remember, yeah they didnt do much did they, merry killed a few of them lol
MattyIsCool96 1 year ago
@97Wc yeah like firing into the air randomly while charging at the rohirim :D
loofens 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 no, they were just basically not giving a damn anymore, there were ridin for death and glory. killin a mumakil would get you a hell of a lot of glory lol
badtodabone1983 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 called oliphaunts are the large ones mumakil are smaller ones or at least thats how i remember it
xXBerethorXx 1 year ago
@xXBerethorXx in the book, Oliphant was Hobbitish Westron. Mumakil was the Gondorian language.
DonMeaker 1 year ago
what would you do flee?? the purpose of that is surrounding the mumakils back and reaching its rear...
alahad 1 year ago
@alahad flanking? would probably have worked
MattyIsCool96 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96
They had no choice. They had to charge unless they wanted to be sandwiched between the Mumaks and the main Orc army.
iKhicken 1 year ago
@iKhicken the orcs were infront of them. retreating behind the mumakil
MattyIsCool96 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 Good Point. However, this shows how B-f***in'-A Eomer and Theoden are, since either are harmed at all in doing so.
TheKNH86 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 well no one said wannabe-vikings have brains :P
cloner98 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 And what do you suggest that they should have done, O Great Tactician?
TheKNH86 1 year ago
@TheKNH86 HMMMMMM, hit and run tactic maybe?
scienceman89 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 i dont think they had anyother option in taht moment, except from wating untill they get smshed between the walls of minas thirit and the mumakil ;P
bandit198066 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 oliphaunt
hondkut 1 year ago
@MattyIsCool96 oliphaunt
hondkut 1 year ago
Nice compilation! Very well done!
irianthul 2 years ago
lol
EHSinister 2 years ago
Funny, but first minute is completly unnecessary. 3-/5
Moooras 2 years ago
that's what she said
Monkeyboy92037 2 years ago
Well, who cares if you kill a few fleeing deserters, should encourage the others to get back in line if anything!
lamz0rs 2 years ago
That's not what the video shows! Lol.
Sephiroth2oo6 2 years ago
Just throwing this out there, but you know for the sake of argument, wouldn't it have been better for Theodan to charge, instead of at the Mumakil, but into the city? The mumakil wouldn't be able to do anything, they're not tall enough to get over the walls, and they're too large to be useful inside Minas Tirith anyways..? lol... Still LOTR is awesome.
Dudekahedron 2 years ago
lol nerd
gugge92 2 years ago
my friend there are some reasons why they didn't go in...
they were less than a minute away... so it's dificult for almost 6 thousand horsemen to go through the gate especialy when there are thousands of orcs and monsters there
valmadasss 2 years ago
oh, yeah i suppose it'd be pretty crowded in minas tirith already.
Dudekahedron 2 years ago
i think that that exact thing everytime i watch the movie lol
blooddesire7 2 years ago
this is like Legolas betraying the fellowship xD.
ummonk 2 years ago
lol the bad guys are so bad even other bad guys think their bad
Ermundos 2 years ago
man the rohan peeple at least got da balls to take on a giant elaphant army
smoof24 2 years ago
does any one else think that they have the coolest sounding horn ever!
mrsbloom2007 2 years ago 2
@mrsbloom2007 agreed
elmerion 2 years ago
yeah it's great
valmadasss 2 years ago
Noob Team Killer ...
farqald 2 years ago
OMG MUMAKIL TKER!!!
TheDragonLordX96 2 years ago
@TheDragonLordX96
OMFG NOOB PILOT LRN2DRIVE!
HAO DO I SHOT ROCKETZ???
TripleBarrel06 2 years ago
of course they killed their own soliders. its because they are evil! the ones that make the movies wants to make you hate/dislike the evil characters so that you wont get angry when they die. simple.
JJnnaatt 2 years ago
Coulda just cut out the first 30 seconds of the video.
kellorkleft02 2 years ago
This is gonna sound so stupid but it took me and my friend ages to actually realise that the elephants were massive!! XD
hovis2007 2 years ago
Lol... Looks like somebody graduated at the Stormtrooper Academy of fine Marksmanship!
mailchibi88 2 years ago 2
team killer! i just love the battle of pelennor fields scene, the mumakil with barbed wire strung between his tusks is my favorite.
KossunKaataja 2 years ago
yeah...it must have been a bright idea..:P
DonCorleoneGR 2 years ago
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6nbay 2 years ago
haha
Davyjones274 2 years ago
WTF!!!!The MUMAKILS have 4 horns?
JACK33630 2 years ago 4
it's called tusks
FreakyGremlinDK 2 years ago 2
HAHA win!! xD
oly355 2 years ago
I was but a 10 year-old boy when I saw this scene, and the second I heard that horn sound at 0:08 , saw their Giant mumakils and their totally imbah über cool-looking archers on top of the Mumakils (I MEAN THEIR FRIKKIN' ARCHERS, ON TOP OF GIANT ELEPHANTS!!!) I knew I loved the Haradrim ^^