Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2

[brainwasher9876]

I'm surprised at Milstein's seemingly sloppy bow technique. Oftentimes it would almost go over the fingerboard. The way he plays the e string is sometimes grating, too. Not trying to troll or anything, just stating my thoughts.

[ortcutt]

@brainwasher9876 I like that he plays this like he means it, including with some grating tone to it. Grating can be good when appropriate.

[2JAMMY]

One of the very few who always gives me inspiration - my dogs love him too!

[ericgable]

I dont understand how this is a bad audience. He probably had to perform another Bach piece after. He played it stunnigly, and you can see if you watched part 1 that people were "mezmorized' by his playing. It was'nt a big audience anyways, and plus Mr. Milstein still felt like he accomplished something after he finished. Sure, its Milstein who wouldnt stand up and clap? I dont know, i guess it was not the right audience for "Bachs" great works.

[Sorcerer2k]

Der Wert dieses Videos ist abseits von materiellen Dingen. Es ist ein unglaublicher Kraft- und Verstandesakt und gleichzeitig eine der bewegendsten musikalischen Erzählungen.

[serpastorg]

Qué cosa mas bella!

Es de lo más hermoso que he oído en mi vida.

Eso es expresión, sentimiento, virtuosidad

No tengo palabras para describir esta música...

No creí oir algo tan hermoso jamás. Sin embargo, ahora sé que existe...

Saludos desde Bogotá, Colombia.

[mareoraft]

@galacticoids he has been beating up his strings too much :D

[CptSchmidt]

What an unappreciative audience...

[LEGOPatriot]

@CptSchmidt I think you misunderstand the audience's silence as unappreciative .They really are enjoying it in silence, as classical music should be enjoyed. :)

[pinball2734]

Watching this, I thought you lucky people to be there on site to listen to this beautiful interpretation of one of the best composed pieces of music and then at the end, that wimpy applause? What the hell were they thinking ?

[zagreen]

Those audience pricks don't know what the fuck they just saw.

[themusicdr]

im not sure about the audience comments, maybe they were simply stunned by the greatness in front of them but certainly at the end the applausewas v muted when indded standing ovatin would have been more appropriate

[delfos96]

Espectacular.. Una de las mejores verciones que he escuchado.. Como es osible que las personas de esa audiencia no llorarn al escuchar esa interpretacion tan magistral.. Y de paso que aplaudieran practicamente sin ganas.. Menos mal que aqui en venezuela cuando escuchamos algo tan marabilloso si sabemos apreciarlo como se merece.. Bravo Nathan Milstein.. Bravooo

[larukukei]

sin palabras,maravilloso

que gran don para hacer sonar asi el violin.

increible una belleza

[Rettihsllub]

At 1:41 he plays a low A but I have always thought it was a B flat that should be there. I will have to check on this.

[moldyoreo]

you are correct - it's a Bb in the manuscript.

[Rettihsllub]

@moldyoreo : Yes, and it makes musical sense because it's part of a line of descent in the bass from C in the previous measure and an implied A in the following.

[cfeAncient]

For a second there I thought it was a rock concert on his violin. :)

This is absolutely amazing. I'm gonna probably listen to this another million times now. lol

[ozirarutnev]

cambada de imbecis na platéia...como disse o amigo acima: não faziam a mínima idéia do que estavam escutando....a complexidade e a beleza da música de Bach realmente não está ao alcance de todos....

[schradiek]

Ah back in the days when an audience really knew how to enthuse about a great performance! Especially the miserable sod with the tache at 3:40!

[MrGunterguerrero]

There is no doubt Nathan Milstein were one of the best violin virtuosos of the 20th Century...how many had played the Bach Sonatas & Partitas like him ? Mr. Milstein made a legendary record for Deutsche Grammophon of them - including marvellous Ciaconna, of course, and won the Grammy 1975...I heard the 2 CD's again and again...

[my666vs777]

Thanks you "salvianojr" for posting this beautiful interpretation of Chaconne by N.Milstein! For me unique and incomparable! THE* BEST ever! How much i listened this one : 60-70 times!!

[howdilydoodily]

Thanks for posting this incredible recording, one of my favorite performances.

It might be better to split the two video halves at the transition between the minor and major, instead of in the middle of the major section. Still, great post.

[TobiramaSenju]

0:47 lovely lady

[Mnacuspia004]

dramathic shots... not like in heifetz´s videos, -thanks god.

[megaluna2]

I think I've listened to this like 5 times today. I had forgotten how in love I am with this interpretation.

I cried (again) at the recapitulation.

This is so gorgeous.

[mareoraft]

I've never heard someone play with such great volume and clarity. This man was truly great.

[hipser]

i now love milstein

[oldgoat5]

... they are half silent or whatever probably because they were dazed...not careless...you cannot go to a concert like this and not care after 12 mins of bach

[munkybrain]

Bach is the only thing that lends the God hypothesis any beauty

[howdilydoodily]

Huh??? What's the "God hypothesis?"

Ironically, Bach himself would be disgusted by your ignorance and bizarre form of flattery. Bach--nor believers alike--don't need your pathetic token of sympathy just because a great composer happened to be deeply religious.

No, the greatest thing for the "God hypothesis" is in the fruit of faith itself that millions have experienced.

Bach's Chaconne is certainly one evidence of faith--and incredible vision of the power of music.

[munkybrain]

You must know what the 'God hypothesis' is.

I was going too far when i made that comment and my opinion has since changed. Religious feeling has catalysed many great things besides Bach's music.

I maintain, though, that Bach's faith was monumental because he was great; his genuis simply expressed itself in the most ready way.

If you want to correspond on the question that's fine but plz don't insult me. I might have offended you but i don't think i insulted you

[Korsair777]

even any1 non-christians cannot deny bach's genious

[poochy00k9]

it's hard for even the Christians you know!

[TheManSAberi]

im pretty sure monkeys would have have given him a more suitable recognition.

[my666vs777]

agree, This public even not monkeys but chikens with a small brains, they dont merit to listen Maestro N.Milstein and his beautiful interpretations of Chaconne

[anisometropie]

the chaconne is a miracle in the universe

[aurilind]

i love the bach effect, the people are just hypnotized.

[pudin008]

Bach Effect xDDD LOL ^^

[zicekanelo]

esa gente no sabia lo que acabaab de escuchar

[matzuz]

Lucky people,could listen this live :)

[ax0lotl]

It looks as though he is about to perform another piece. It's not the right time for a standing ovation.

Why would you assume that only you, and not this audience who were present, are capable of ascertaining the value of this performance? How arrogant.

[stm333]

Bach and Milstein = Genius x 2. And may both RIP.

[sinharvivetempt]

i like 0:14

[viewur33]

Some things transcend applause. The evening that Pres. Kennedy was killed in Dallas TX, Isaac Stern had a concert there; to play selections w piano accompaniment. Instead of that program, he played one piece: The Chaconne., since the music of Bach was as close to prayer as anything he could play. He asked that there be no applause when he finished, & there wasnt. Since then I havent been able to listen to the Chaconne without hearing the beauty mixed with sadness.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

I can only say we are blessed with this film clip-a performance that literally reaches in and seizes the heart. For me this Chaconne is like no other--sublime.

[firstwanderer]

I heartily agree with previous comments. Shame on this audience! Couldn't they show some emotion after hearing such a prodigy? Either they were dead or perfect idiots.

[belmany]

They probably didn't really understand music. :P

[hdavis147]

well, really think about it.

these people probably paid high dollar to attend this.

theyre classy people.

and really, yelling and screaming in that auditorium would probably be too loud and could translate happy-excited energy into rude-disruptive energy.

[AlamoCityCello]

Milstein, the COMPLETE violinist

[jeongalex]

Pascalbabs is right.

At 1:41, the low note is supposed to be a B flat, but Milstein plays an A natural.

Nonetheless, this is an amazing performance and I really love his interpretation.

[jazzpsalti]

lol jeon and babs, it's just a B "very flat," not quite A.

Give the guy a break he don't got no frets LOL

[somdeviolinos]

Puta que o pariu, esse cara é muito foda.

excelente msm esse video.

[johntomfoolery]

My only criticism is the point at which the poster cut the film. It is separated at exactly the height of the entire movement. It is the apex of the entire 14 minutes that happens right there at 9:55. I almost cried to hear that note split up like that.

[AuneseuleMain]

This is so beautiful ! I'm crying ... This guy is SO amazing ! Especially the part from 1:47 to 2:25.

Holy shit ... Bach = God

[anisometropie]

so true.. so true

[over18start100]

the reaction of the audience is absolutely unbelievable !

for me milstein is one of the greatest bach performers

a master is playing and no one notice it.

[Doctor550]

Yes it is you should clean your ears!

[pascalbabs]

in 1:41 he made a mistake ! i never thought misltein would make a false note...

but this is beautiful...and we all now is played by a human

not the typical virtuoso...

[milstein91]

ohhh big deal!!who cares after hearig this historycal performance of the bach chaconne about a fucking note that was a litlle bit out of tune you idiot ignorant kid go play pokemon

[milstein91]

I didn t excpect that french people were so igorant that they didn t recognize the best performance ever of this piece in front of them!idiots...what i would give to be there.

[issavestheworld]

Such articulation is amazing......

[glassnipple]

I think more, longer applause at the end would have been appropriate :-)

[felixmendelssohn]

The fingering from 1:26 to 1:36 is badass. I'm going to have to try that.

[enoc24]

es hermoso su sonido natan es el mejor

[drremlaw]

The audience definitely had no idea what they were hearing - note the polite applause at the end where a standing ovation really would have been in order.

[CelloNerd314]

lol I was JUST about to post a comment saying the same thing, but you beat me to it.

The audience was incompetent in this case - they had no idea how excellent a performance they were getting.

[DrumminJoe]

Exactly! I was looking at them going "Stand UP!!" This was a fantastic performance. Seems very much from the heart of the music, not from the "look how fast i can play these figures" school. Just Wonderful

[Doctor550]

I would kill that idiot ignorant audience members.

[taborviolinscom]

Oh god yes sensitive women who brood over Bach!

[321pavel123]

today (in this time or future) nobody write this amazing music.

[GraniteQuarrier]

no coughing:) must be a bug we caught later.

5 stars

[Matheusgsouza]

omg... lots of feelings...

really a great interpretation...

thanks for that video!!

[fphilippus]

I dont really like classical music. But i love baroque end especially Bach. Vivaldi is very great too. Very well interpretated. Very god for doing homework when you are stressed!

[arzdiamondbacks]

the people in the audience piss me off so much!

[areneth]

I'm not so sure they know what they're listening to.

[anandramanathan]

He brings out so much more out of the piece. It was amazing from the start to finish. In my opinion, the Chaconne sounds good no matter who plays it. Yet, when someone like Milstein plays it(or Pletnev on the piano), it is so much richer. Bravo

[smenjare]

que erfeccion en la ultima nota, simplemente increible, y que claridad, evidentemente un gran violinista, fui capaz de escuchar cada nota, increible la habilidad adquirida de este hombre, bravo

[rob333c]

Ignorant audience, who invited those assholes to listen the great Milstein?

I'm sure they didn't know the difference between an exceptional and a mediocre violinist.

[Zvax]

I must say that my first thought was:

He could play slower

but the end washed away all traces of whatever difficulties I could have with his playing

great

sublime

i don't have the words

and the final note, on an up bow...

just magical

[smithsherman]

It's mechanical like Malmsteen...without the Averarching Egomaniacal,(mommy,mommy...loo­k at me!) of Malmsteen's playing.

[theman21]

smithsherman, i have been looking at all of your comments and NONE of them have any basis whatsoever on anything going on in this video. Are you a musician? Do you know anything about classical music? Do you even go to CLASSICAL concerts? I have been a professional musician my entire life and it always pisses me off to see even amateurs who know something about REAL music make a comment like yours. If you can't duplicate it don't talk.

[iiirdeyeheretik]

This reminds me of malmstein.

in the sense that it's the exact opposite of malmstein.

In the sense that this is good.

And malmstein is quite possibly the worst "famous" musician on the face of this planet. Yep...

[AbsoluteZ3R0]

At first I was thinking "what an idiot" until I read the rest of your comment lol. although there are SEVERAL worse famous musicians than Malmsteen, I would have to agree with that when it pertains strictly to the classical field.

[Hashnew]

Amazing.

[monelleny]

What a performance. This audience must have been on tranquilizers!

[schnellpiloten]

The Chaconne should occupy a special place in music all its own. One commenter used the word sublime - how appropriate!! I clasp the Chaconne to my heart always and this- such a heart rending performance!

[rob333c]

Ignorant audience, who invited those assholes to listen the great Milstein?

[eykatz]

This how the audience were in the sixties.

not joking

repressed repressed repressed

[PoseidonRM]

Pearls before swine. man, you guys are right about that audience.

[violaplayer1995]

have you guys seen the paganiniana one? the audience members are always assholes for milstein

[bohemiatotal]

Amazing playing....stunning soul!

[savvaslagou]

perfect...

[candyrox21]

this sound. one of the greatest violin players in existence and his crowd gave the weakest applause i have ever seen.

its sad

[allisonforeva]

u know i wont be surprised if he plz witha satrasivarius its my dream to own one of them... or a fling V Violin ^_^ but i have a pretty good chance of making a famous golf player so i could buy one ^_^

[jabsomdoc]

milstein played exclusively on strads. i know first hand from a friend of his.

[KoganSvetlanov]

I have noticed that Beares sold his bow and his strad 5 months ago...

[brian777999]

Ungrateful audience ; who were they waiting for, I wonder ?

That was brilliant.

[2934703]

He plays it in a more straightforward style than they do now. Now they almost romantisize it by laying on the smalz and tricky bowing so we'll know they are great artists. Milstein just played with geat tone, and intonation and didn't try to make a love song out of it.

[genmaximus110]

Could've done without the exaggerated end of that very last note, though...

[2934703]

Surely you aren't going to quarrel over the last note. Count all the notes that came before it. They were very, very well done by an accomplished artist.

[genmaximus110]

Yes, he did do a great job. I was just simply saying I hated that last note.

[2934703]

You are right. He did come off that lasty note with an extra shove. Probably won't do it aggin. I have heard him ply this piece before and didn't notice a shove at the end. It is not something he customarily does on other pieces either.

[Bigstan2000]

The studio recording I have does have the shove at the end. Personally, I like that effect however.

[skrzypek6]

Genius.

[my666vs777]

speechless....

[ohnoestehbanhammer]

This is the most metal thing I have ever heard. \m/ the power chords rip my heart apart.

[nadyart]

Could I know when was this recital?

[skrzypek6]

Filmed in London, 9 June 1963

[nadyart]

Thank you very much.

[violin144000]

He definitely has a consistent tempo. I also like it when they show the faces of the audience especially the chics.

[jlamour]

I think Milstein admitted he hit a few wrong notes in this performance but the overall feeling was correct for the performance so he let it go.

[candyrox21]

yeah your a fucking moron heifetzsucks.

Who the hell is stupid enough to say heifetz sucks?

are you a dumbass?

[123mortimer]

It is indeed a wrong note. He slides low, playing an A instead of a Bb. So what of it? Does that in your view diminish his accomplishment?

[HeifetzSucks]

Is that a wrong note I hear at 1:41? *gasps*

[firebreathone]

Mister Heifetzsucks (strange name btw), that is not a wrong note.

[HeifetzSucks]

um, yes it is. The note is supposed to be a B flat, but it was an A. If you actually knew the score and had at least an inkling of pitch, you would know

[GreatPianists]

My good man, this is perhaps THE definitive interpreter of the Bach violin sonatas if there ever was one (maybe Szeryng could give him a run for his money, but other than that...).

Faced with such greatness as in this recording, playing an A accidentally instead of a Bb is so trivial. Nobody's perfect, though Milstein was pretty darn close.

[firebreathone]

weak applause.

[DrMontague]

People were much more reserved in those days, not at all like the ten thousand decibel yelping screeching yanks we have to put up with these days. The gentle applause reflected the mood of the music. BTW I've just smashed another violin up! The ain't half been some clever bastards, lucky bleeders!

[gawgul]

he ends on an up bow,?! cool. Deep sound, open sound, not held back, not refined or stuffy, this time around.

[waxenwings89]

Haha. Sounds just like his recording.

[Schnabel87]

Stunning. To borrow a term from Rachmaninov, Milstein really gets 'the point' of this masterpiece.

[koushirou]

I am wondering about the applause, why it was so week!? He just played like a god!

[salvianojr]

I agree. The audience looks distant and cold. Maybe they didn't know the difference between an exceptional and a mediocre musician.

[felixmendelssohn]

Moreover, the chaconne is not an easy piece to wrap one's mind around. They may simply not have "gotten it"--I remember when I was a kid I thought this piece was terribly boring, and I thought Sarasate's 'Zigeunerweisen' was profound.

At any rate, this is mind-blowing. Thanks for posting.

[AbsoluteZ3R0]

Yeah, i didn't like this piece until recently, but i used to be in love with zigeunerweisen (which i still think is a great piece). But seriously, he deserved a standing ovation.

[felixmendelssohn]

Yeah.

[Pianowrestler]

After such a sublime performance of a profound masterpiece, one shouldn't applause at all - it is most disturbing.

[smithsherman]

Again,another moving but uninteresting performance.The modern anti-expressives of the

20th century insist that with a fabulous

tone,precise dead-even rhythm,and brilliant

execution all will be well.But This music

shorn of most rhetorical devices such as all

portamentos,Accelerandi,and varying beat

placement strip the interest from "the

composers intent"...and reveal intellectual

vapidity.Kubelik,Hubermann,Elm­an,Joachim,and Thibaud were moving and INTERESTING at this.

[qixoty]

...and must we not also bemoan the vacuaty of soul of this Soviet educated music mashine...?

muzak like (t)his could only resonate in vessels as empty and vapid as milstein's own fiddle,heart and mind...

yes, yes we must be strict...strict but just!

[qixoty]

-shiranu ga hotoke-

mine unschooled ears

were moved to tears

[qixoty]

i think the audience where just

dumb dummies...random picked

to fill the empty ranks with (empty!) faces

[qixoty]

why can't we edit here ?

(kill the "h" !)

[qixoty]

also

why doesn't all this Hitler adulation dirt Killed from this site (even if repeatedly flagged as inappropriate!!) ?

Why isn't it blocked for a German audience? German laws forbid SStuff like that being freely peddeled in its sovereign borders!

[qixoty]

i think that calls for action!

anybody willing (and erudite enough) to assist?

come on, win yourself a place in heaven !!!

[AchtungWolff]

Yeah I'm wondering the same question... These public are not so grateful...

It's a little bit disturbing... if these man don't deserve a euphoric ovation... who deservs it???

[davesurgeon]

Wonderful.