@pippipepper outtasight, really? have you seen any of your material on youtube? you must have a lot of stories about what the scene was like back then.
@Airman241 WRONG!!! Polly Holliday left for "Flo". Diane Ladd was a movie actress and was unsatisfied with the grind of a TV show. Celia Weston left with the show.
I have an old TV Guide from 1976 with an interview with Linda Lavin where she stated that the friendship between Flo and Alice was important to the show. It's too bad she didn't practice what she preached in real life.
Linda Lavin feuded with both Polly Holliday and Diane Ladd. She was reportedly very jealous of Flo becoming the hit of the show and wasn't nice to Polly and Diane Ladd.
what is it with females in threes? I mean you have a show with three female leads (charlies angels,alice ,) and somebody (or two somebodys ) always end up leaving rthe show...look at this show! i did think Celia Weston was the cutest waitress on Alice, though..after beth howland ( i would do Celia, back then...today no..shes too big)
:36 what's up with the office building in the background? I thought the diner was on a rural hwy stretch? Just pointing out something they might have overlooked on the set.
I liked Belle but still think that Polly Holliday should of stayed on the show! Does anyone know why Polly Holliday left the show? I mean i know she went back to cowtown but i mean why did she leave the set?
polly left when alice was the # 1 rated tv show but it was a bad decision that hurt both shows. proof that you can't break up a good thing thinking good will come out of it.
look at my other comment as to why polly left. alice was #1 on the ratings when polly left mistakenly thinking she could pull off a show on her own. both shows paid a price by flo leaving.
Christ all mighty its been over 20 years since ive seen that intro..i remember now watchhing it as a young child and devolping some wierd crush and that dingy waitress i wanna say vivian was her name...Good god i wonder now how that affected my relations with all other women since LMAO...But seriously great find great clip Thnks
I remember Diane Ladd played "Flo" originally in the Alice movie before it became a tv show,so she could easily have been recast as Flo again instead of Belle.
I always wondered this too. Since Diane Ladd left it would have been perfect, but I don't think she wanted to work with Linda Lavin again or vice versa.
the fact that you are the first to get past 10th grade sums everything up. black people are slaves only to black culture.....you can not get around your black genes which will always lurk underneath the facade of civility you portray. 67% of black africans do not even have indoor plumbing yet you say they were an advanced culture 6000 years ago.....lol.
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black africa is in turmoil, poverty and despair because of black rule. zimbabwe is a prime example of what happens when blacks rule; when it was rhodesia and run by a white man it was the breadbasket of africa. now it is a cesspool whith 1000% inflation!!!! lol
What the hell are you talking about dude? I'm trying to enjoy this "STONER VIDEO". With it's typical "doppler-shift-effect" guitar note modulation. Makes for hillarious aural sensations while under the influence! MELLOW OUT DUDE!
Beth Howland and Allyce Beasley(I think I spelled that right)from "Moonlighting, had this cute little innocence about them..wonder whatever happened to them?
Someone's missing from the opening credits in this version Philip McKeon as Tommy Hyatt...Hmmmm. I agree with 5474 as well Celia Weston did a superb job as Jolene Hunniciut, she remained on the show til it ended in 1985..I like the episode when Boss Hogg and Deputy Enus came to Mel's Diner it's on You Tube, just type in Boar's Nest West.
Celia actually plays a lot of down home kind of characters, but if you see her apart from an acting role, she can look quite elegant even now. (I'd say she's mid-50s now.) I met Celia when I was 19 on the Alice set ... what fun. She was so sweet to me and took the time to take pictures with me even though she was having dinner with other actor friends. I managed to meet Vic and Linda too that night.
I had the chance to meet Celia very recently. She was a guest at a friend's Thanksgiving dinner. Unfortunately I wasn't aware of who she was, as I didn't grow up in the US and have never watched "Alice." She was very nice and regaled us all with tales of his politician Dad. Oh, she's currently shooting a movie with Liam Neesan where she plays Christina Ricci's mom. For all this I decided to look her up here!
i will agree with 5474-she could carry a tune better than any of us on this comments board combined-and she was in character with alice-i used to watch this show all the time!!!
Okay her singing isn't that bad guys. Also I would imagine she's singing in character!!!! Another thing linda lavin is a well accomplish broadway actress who must have some talent as you don't get there without talent. And compared to singers today ( ie Brittany spears) she's an operetic genius
Looks like they reshot the opening of the car approaching Phoenix, if you view the first couple seasons, a large semi passes, going in the other direction, here you can see a white car or van moving into the oncoming lane to pass.
If you thought that her singing in the opening credits is bad, her singing in the closing credits from 1978-sometime in the early '80s was even worse!!!
LOLOLOLOLOL. This is too funny. I thought that she sang season one very well along with the 1981 version in between those seasons was like she won an amateur contest and got a chance to record her own song in a studio. Kinda like karaoke. During the season two version, it was like she was chewing/overemphasizing the lyrics, "UUUURRRLY TOOOO RIIISE....URRRLY TOO BEEEED".
You noticed that they always tried to replace Flo with a girl from the south? But Flo was funny as hell. She got away with saying a lot for that time huh?
I posted on here about a month ago that ALICE, the Box Set was out on DVD... It's a total farce. DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY TO THE CROOK PEDDLING THIS THING!!! The episodes are (bad) videotapes from reruns on TNN.
Don't fall for this scam, regardless of how real it looks.
For some reason, I didn't really feel Flo that much. And they said she was the "hot" one? I'm sorry, but she reminds me of someone's grandmother. Jolene was much hotter, IMHO.
Linda Lavin had a huge ego and did not like Polly Holiday's popularity, so it's no surprise that after her spin-off failed she never returned to Mel's Diner.
When Shelly Long left Cheers the producers went in another direction when they replaced her prissy and uptight character with Kirtsey Ally's Rebecca. Rebecca was neurotic and unsure of herself. On ALICE they simply went with a carbon copy of Flo, or at least they tried to and it failed. Why didn't Holiday return to ALICE? She didn't want to do the spin-off but Warner Brothers wanted the show.
BIG NEWS 'ALICE' FANS! All 9 seasons (202 episodes) are now available in a box-set. It's 19 discs and retails for $239 (yeesh!). I just discovered this last night and found it online (on sale) and I ordered it immediately.
ALSO: The AOL video channel is now showing reruns of 'Flo'! Check it out!!! This was my 1st chance to see it.
There are actually two openings with Diane Ladd, but you have to be at the right time to catch either. Six episodes from the fourth season featured Ladd, following by something like 16 episodes during the fifth season. The episode that Jolene joins the cast still had Diane Ladd in the credits, but beginning the next episode, Ladd was gone and never referred to again, even on the last episode when Mel closed the Diner and they did flashbacks.
On the originally aired episodes, Philip's name was never removed. Only during daytime reruns and later, in syndication, was his name taken out in episodes he didn't appear in. This was to avoid paying royalties, I'm guessing.
It's very interesting that as late as season 5 (6?)they took the time to remove Philip McKeon from the credits. I'm an Alice FANATIC and I don't remember ever seeing this opening theme over these clips...
I do. IIRC, CBS used to show reruns of this and other sitcoms during the week in the mornings before The Price Is Right and in the afternoons after Guiding Light. Maybe it was the local affiliate, but I DO remember this theme used over these clips (including the net being thrown over Mel) in at least a couple of episodes before they changed it.
Interesting how diff syndicators were able to edit the credits into ? Here in L.A. if Philip McKeon wasn't in a show, they just extended the shots of the Diner roof sign, the "waitress wanted" sign, and Lavin scooting across the diner balancing the huge tray of dishes (over which they put the logo.) After season 4 I don't recall them changing the opening titles.
I always thought the redone theme added interest to the series. I liked the fifth season version (this one) the least though. Also, the sixth through ninth were the same version.
Starting with season 6, the theme song became a jazzier version with Linda singing the first verse and then a trumpet plays, and then the second verse, then a trumpet plays, and at the end there is a piano break and a trumpet ending.
@pippipepper outtasight, really? have you seen any of your material on youtube? you must have a lot of stories about what the scene was like back then.
wallofvideo 2 months ago
@pippipepper what shows were u one. What's your name if you don't mind me asking?
msmithstud 5 months ago
rip vic tayback
winfir0 6 months ago
this singing is terrible...especially the "NEW" in "there's a NEW girl in town.
79goldmaster1 6 months ago
mmmm love the end...garblegarble
crashkidd34 10 months ago
This opening will not be or is not recommended for my personal iTunes version.
mrremark2 1 year ago
Who from this show is still alive?
Cgatto01 1 year ago
@Cgatto01 all of them are alive except vic tayback who was mel
delidude1999 1 year ago
they kept having to replace third actress Linda Lavin did not like being up staged by nobody
Airman241 1 year ago
@Airman241 WRONG!!! Polly Holliday left for "Flo". Diane Ladd was a movie actress and was unsatisfied with the grind of a TV show. Celia Weston left with the show.
megamanmaniac 1 year ago
@megamanmaniac I always thought Belle was the last waitress and came AFTER Jolene for some reason until I staretd watching this again.
littlebit19801 11 months ago
Vic Tayback, R.I.P.
restlessr84 1 year ago
IS SHE JEWISH??????????????????
kduideo 1 year ago
@kduideo YES!
Brianeddie666 1 year ago
oh gosh....there was suppose to be a REUNION back then but Linda declinded unless more money....typical.
kduideo 1 year ago
@kduideo that sucks.. I have been dyin for a reunion and I have seen Lavin and Weston in person recently wow
MarvinParksJazzPop 1 year ago
that Tommy had a nice tight little ass
zenos12 1 year ago
"You can SUCK MY CLIT!!! Mel Sharples"
zenos12 1 year ago
wow I forgot how hot Jolene was!
crassyfrake 1 year ago
I have an old TV Guide from 1976 with an interview with Linda Lavin where she stated that the friendship between Flo and Alice was important to the show. It's too bad she didn't practice what she preached in real life.
kittygrrlhk 1 year ago
I agree with you Kitty.
kduideo 1 year ago
LOL Levin on :13 sec will make a better looking Iron man then Robert Downey Jr
genx1973 1 year ago
Linda Lavin feuded with both Polly Holliday and Diane Ladd. She was reportedly very jealous of Flo becoming the hit of the show and wasn't nice to Polly and Diane Ladd.
kittygrrlhk 1 year ago
I remember seeing vic tayback on an
episode of cannon
gregersj 1 year ago
Ha just to believe i had a crush on Vera. I guess its true with what they say all your taste in in your mouth when you are a kid.
genx1973 2 years ago
the show died when they can flo off show sorry linda lavin could not act neither could sing either!
Lehnerd57 2 years ago
Vic Tayback died in 1990. He was awesome.
Godzilla1985 2 years ago
Linda Lavin always looked liked she smelled......down there.
store275 2 years ago
Mel Sharples is THE MAN !!!
smizzman 2 years ago 7
rip Vic tayback he was on an episode on
"77 Sunset Strip" i saw TVLAND
HICKSVILLE241 2 years ago
what is it with females in threes? I mean you have a show with three female leads (charlies angels,alice ,) and somebody (or two somebodys ) always end up leaving rthe show...look at this show! i did think Celia Weston was the cutest waitress on Alice, though..after beth howland ( i would do Celia, back then...today no..shes too big)
nealadams70 2 years ago
:36 what's up with the office building in the background? I thought the diner was on a rural hwy stretch? Just pointing out something they might have overlooked on the set.
billybassman21 2 years ago
linda lavin at her best in barney miller.
fluffydolly 2 years ago
*not enough
BeagleLives 2 years ago
I love Jolene on the show! Put this series on DVD! 5 episodes is enough enough!
BeagleLives 2 years ago
They should have had Jolene throwing the plates in slow motion at :38. It would have been super trippy.
clocksetup 2 years ago
WHY ARE NONE OF THESE OUT ON DVD FOR YRS? You can find every other show known to mankind except 'Alice'!
missxradio 2 years ago
Lavin sounds terrible here.
hellskitchennews 2 years ago 2
I liked Belle but still think that Polly Holliday should of stayed on the show! Does anyone know why Polly Holliday left the show? I mean i know she went back to cowtown but i mean why did she leave the set?
Alicefan94 2 years ago
Polly Holliday got her own spinoff show. It only lasted 29 episodes (just over a year).
wtbates 2 years ago
@wtbates
polly left when alice was the # 1 rated tv show but it was a bad decision that hurt both shows. proof that you can't break up a good thing thinking good will come out of it.
The096757 2 years ago
@Alicefan94
look at my other comment as to why polly left. alice was #1 on the ratings when polly left mistakenly thinking she could pull off a show on her own. both shows paid a price by flo leaving.
The096757 2 years ago
Christ all mighty its been over 20 years since ive seen that intro..i remember now watchhing it as a young child and devolping some wierd crush and that dingy waitress i wanna say vivian was her name...Good god i wonder now how that affected my relations with all other women since LMAO...But seriously great find great clip Thnks
mindofmorrison 2 years ago
Celia Weston is in the new Seth Rogan movie, "Observe and Report". She's playing his mom.
nettle97008 2 years ago
I remember Diane Ladd played "Flo" originally in the Alice movie before it became a tv show,so she could easily have been recast as Flo again instead of Belle.
yandrfan4ever 2 years ago
Kiss My grits.
amcfan100 3 years ago
the video and sound need much work
tubedudeT2000 3 years ago
Listen to those opening chords, they sound like they've been lifted straight out of "Peg" by Steely Dan....
NameNotaNumber 3 years ago
What happened to Belle?
why did she leave? And why didn't they bring Flo back after her show tanked?
BobsWorld666 3 years ago
I always wondered this too. Since Diane Ladd left it would have been perfect, but I don't think she wanted to work with Linda Lavin again or vice versa.
jmsweat 3 years ago
Maybe Polly had too much pride to want to go back
rjam1974 2 years ago
vic tayback was the true satr of that show.
reh629 3 years ago
Ah, this is when Linda Lavin "dyked up" with that butch hairdo and they replaced Flo with standard issue blondie.
agenttorpor 3 years ago
Ladd is a Legend! Love Diane.
fayedunawayfan 3 years ago
Sucked after Flo left.
mthivier 3 years ago
I hated this show yet I watched it every week.
cornjuicy 3 years ago
This reminds me of how great 'One Day At A Time' was.
caper454 3 years ago
iirc the show was kind of busted up by this point in the run
quixNYC 3 years ago
This is FREAKIN' HILLAARIOUS.....listen to the first 10 seconds...the sound is droaning hillariously like as if I WAS SMOKING WEEEEEEDDD!
navyman4 3 years ago
the fact that you are the first to get past 10th grade sums everything up. black people are slaves only to black culture.....you can not get around your black genes which will always lurk underneath the facade of civility you portray. 67% of black africans do not even have indoor plumbing yet you say they were an advanced culture 6000 years ago.....lol.
happyluckytime 3 years ago
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black africa is in turmoil, poverty and despair because of black rule. zimbabwe is a prime example of what happens when blacks rule; when it was rhodesia and run by a white man it was the breadbasket of africa. now it is a cesspool whith 1000% inflation!!!! lol
happyluckytime 3 years ago
What the hell are you talking about dude? I'm trying to enjoy this "STONER VIDEO". With it's typical "doppler-shift-effect" guitar note modulation. Makes for hillarious aural sensations while under the influence! MELLOW OUT DUDE!
navyman4 3 years ago
man, Lavin really sucked...
orchote 3 years ago
Beth Howland and Allyce Beasley(I think I spelled that right)from "Moonlighting, had this cute little innocence about them..wonder whatever happened to them?
heyheyheydude 3 years ago
Did Linda Lavin have a thing for performing in male drag? It seems to be a recurring theme in these openers...
And Celia Weston was quite striking. It's a shame that she became rather haggish as an older woman.
noprahwinfrey2007 4 years ago
I`m woundering if she is a lesbian. Her hair was cut real short.
ih1s1bila1n 4 years ago
Someone's missing from the opening credits in this version Philip McKeon as Tommy Hyatt...Hmmmm. I agree with 5474 as well Celia Weston did a superb job as Jolene Hunniciut, she remained on the show til it ended in 1985..I like the episode when Boss Hogg and Deputy Enus came to Mel's Diner it's on You Tube, just type in Boar's Nest West.
adamdicy 3 years ago
Celia actually plays a lot of down home kind of characters, but if you see her apart from an acting role, she can look quite elegant even now. (I'd say she's mid-50s now.) I met Celia when I was 19 on the Alice set ... what fun. She was so sweet to me and took the time to take pictures with me even though she was having dinner with other actor friends. I managed to meet Vic and Linda too that night.
fijifive 3 years ago
I had the chance to meet Celia very recently. She was a guest at a friend's Thanksgiving dinner. Unfortunately I wasn't aware of who she was, as I didn't grow up in the US and have never watched "Alice." She was very nice and regaled us all with tales of his politician Dad. Oh, she's currently shooting a movie with Liam Neesan where she plays Christina Ricci's mom. For all this I decided to look her up here!
dance2tango 3 years ago
jolene was my favorite I never could stand vera and I hated belle
eci4r 4 years ago
Flo was the best,but I kinda liked Joleen too.Belle sucked!
SweetLemon2008 4 years ago
Agreed
greendragon94 2 years ago
i will agree with 5474-she could carry a tune better than any of us on this comments board combined-and she was in character with alice-i used to watch this show all the time!!!
afanofoldradio 4 years ago
Okay her singing isn't that bad guys. Also I would imagine she's singing in character!!!! Another thing linda lavin is a well accomplish broadway actress who must have some talent as you don't get there without talent. And compared to singers today ( ie Brittany spears) she's an operetic genius
lavb5474 4 years ago
i tend to disagree, linda lavin is a talentless slut
somewhatlongdong 4 years ago
that is an awful thing to say, especially after having met her in person and after hearingher perform live(and yes she sang 'it' in the show)
WindsofChange2008 4 years ago
I think her singing was great not to many shows had openings like that... It was a unique opening and ending....Classic:o}
csebrigh 4 years ago
Femme waitresses in their little dresses are HAWT. If I were Mel, I'd take every opportunity to smack their little booties.
funkmike 4 years ago
now, 25 years later, there is no such thing as a waitress with a "little booty." they are all as big as a bus.
somewhatlongdong 4 years ago
I love the VHS "Video Calibration" text at the beginning, TOTALLY takes me back! Awesome, thanx for posting!
godroxdahowse 4 years ago
Looks like they reshot the opening of the car approaching Phoenix, if you view the first couple seasons, a large semi passes, going in the other direction, here you can see a white car or van moving into the oncoming lane to pass.
werewolfantipaladin 4 years ago
Linda Lavin singing scares small children and pets
somewhatlongdong 4 years ago 10
If you thought that her singing in the opening credits is bad, her singing in the closing credits from 1978-sometime in the early '80s was even worse!!!
megamanj2007 4 years ago
oh yeah, i remember she did a sequence of bah-bah-bah instead of saying the words to the theme song. nasty
somewhatlongdong 4 years ago
LOLOLOLOLOL. This is too funny. I thought that she sang season one very well along with the 1981 version in between those seasons was like she won an amateur contest and got a chance to record her own song in a studio. Kinda like karaoke. During the season two version, it was like she was chewing/overemphasizing the lyrics, "UUUURRRLY TOOOO RIIISE....URRRLY TOO BEEEED".
JhomasE 4 years ago
That's what I'm thinking in watching these reruns. Her singing on the openings and closings leaves a lot to be desired!
jmsweat 4 years ago
@somewhatlongdong Amen to that. She thinks she can sing and she thinks she's sexy - NOT!
MrCzechers 4 months ago
cool
emceejoke 4 years ago
You noticed that they always tried to replace Flo with a girl from the south? But Flo was funny as hell. She got away with saying a lot for that time huh?
honeegrrl 4 years ago 2
Whoever told Linda Lavin she could sing lied.
vjmlhds 4 years ago 4
OMG! If I was drinking soda, I would have spit it out. This comment was simple and cracked me the h#ll up! No offense to Ms. Lavin.
JhomasE 4 years ago
Hi folks.
I posted on here about a month ago that ALICE, the Box Set was out on DVD... It's a total farce. DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY TO THE CROOK PEDDLING THIS THING!!! The episodes are (bad) videotapes from reruns on TNN.
Don't fall for this scam, regardless of how real it looks.
scboy28 4 years ago
if you listen to the first season the words to the song is different ..
musicvideosrock4me 4 years ago
For some reason, I didn't really feel Flo that much. And they said she was the "hot" one? I'm sorry, but she reminds me of someone's grandmother. Jolene was much hotter, IMHO.
megamanj2004 4 years ago
Linda Lavin had a huge ego and did not like Polly Holiday's popularity, so it's no surprise that after her spin-off failed she never returned to Mel's Diner.
maryfan5 4 years ago 2
When Shelly Long left Cheers the producers went in another direction when they replaced her prissy and uptight character with Kirtsey Ally's Rebecca. Rebecca was neurotic and unsure of herself. On ALICE they simply went with a carbon copy of Flo, or at least they tried to and it failed. Why didn't Holiday return to ALICE? She didn't want to do the spin-off but Warner Brothers wanted the show.
adelgado75 4 years ago
I agree I always wondered why Polly Holiday never returned after her replacement failed.
csebrigh 4 years ago
I named my cat Flo after Polly Holidays chartacter from this show... she just died 8 months ago :(
Cynphx 4 years ago
Hello,
I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. My condolences to you.
-Matt
Matto2t 4 years ago
Thank you I appreciate that Matt-
Ken
Cynphx 4 years ago
BIG NEWS 'ALICE' FANS! All 9 seasons (202 episodes) are now available in a box-set. It's 19 discs and retails for $239 (yeesh!). I just discovered this last night and found it online (on sale) and I ordered it immediately.
ALSO: The AOL video channel is now showing reruns of 'Flo'! Check it out!!! This was my 1st chance to see it.
scboy28 4 years ago
Flo was the shit. I used to jerk it thinking about doing nasty style with her on Mel's counter.
dmon8rx 4 years ago
What was with Linda Lavin dressing in male dragg?? Remember when she dressed up as that gomba?? Thing is she said she already has the clothes??
dmon8rx 4 years ago
the show went downhill when Flo left...
mooky9669 4 years ago 2
anyone got clip episode with boss hogg n enos
MikeLutton 4 years ago
Whoever told Linda Lavin she could sing or act lied.
vjmlhds 4 years ago
Mel, Kiss my grits.......The shows of the 70's was the best...
csebrigh 4 years ago
Does anyone have the opening with Diane Ladd? Please post it if you do!
bostonkid1979 4 years ago
There are actually two openings with Diane Ladd, but you have to be at the right time to catch either. Six episodes from the fourth season featured Ladd, following by something like 16 episodes during the fifth season. The episode that Jolene joins the cast still had Diane Ladd in the credits, but beginning the next episode, Ladd was gone and never referred to again, even on the last episode when Mel closed the Diner and they did flashbacks.
fijifive 3 years ago
I can't believe I actually remember all of this.
killerbees2K6 4 years ago
On the originally aired episodes, Philip's name was never removed. Only during daytime reruns and later, in syndication, was his name taken out in episodes he didn't appear in. This was to avoid paying royalties, I'm guessing.
fijifive 4 years ago
I'd like to see one from Season 5 that has Diane Ladd in it.
bellbm 4 years ago
It's very interesting that as late as season 5 (6?)they took the time to remove Philip McKeon from the credits. I'm an Alice FANATIC and I don't remember ever seeing this opening theme over these clips...
scboy28 4 years ago
I do. IIRC, CBS used to show reruns of this and other sitcoms during the week in the mornings before The Price Is Right and in the afternoons after Guiding Light. Maybe it was the local affiliate, but I DO remember this theme used over these clips (including the net being thrown over Mel) in at least a couple of episodes before they changed it.
tsntana 4 years ago
Interesting how diff syndicators were able to edit the credits into ? Here in L.A. if Philip McKeon wasn't in a show, they just extended the shots of the Diner roof sign, the "waitress wanted" sign, and Lavin scooting across the diner balancing the huge tray of dishes (over which they put the logo.) After season 4 I don't recall them changing the opening titles.
scboy28 4 years ago
The 3rd season was the absolute best
ElJefeNLA 4 years ago
I always thought the redone theme added interest to the series. I liked the fifth season version (this one) the least though. Also, the sixth through ninth were the same version.
fijifive 5 years ago 2
Starting with season 6, the theme song became a jazzier version with Linda singing the first verse and then a trumpet plays, and then the second verse, then a trumpet plays, and at the end there is a piano break and a trumpet ending.
drummerbraves 4 years ago
It's interesting how they found it necessary to redo the theme almost every season, when the original was the best by far.
maryfan5 5 years ago 2