In the first place it is unconstitutional .You have NO right to ask me to pay your ins and I have no right to ask you .Second if your congressmen and women would stop with the dumbassed earmarks ( tea museums little bridges with their names on it ) Those that truly need assistance would be covered.Children truly infirmed folks of all ages .I say this as a statement I dont ask "stay out of my pockets " if you dont like this that is your right ,it is my right not to have this foisted on me .
"single payer means everybody in and nobody out" ? no single payers means one entity provides the source of funding. In Canada there have been lawsuits brought against the government because a doctor started up a practice to provided MRI's and other medical xrays that are greatly rationed in Canada,, he operated independently of the single payers system and people self payed to get faster service, the government fined him and tried to shut him down he took the government to court,, and he won.
Health care in Canada isn't free. They just pay up front directly out of their paychecks in the form of higher taxes.
A principle of economics is that monopolies are bad for consumers. A monopoly will increase prices and lower the quality of goods/service. Why do some of you think this principle won't apply to health care?
Check cancer survival rates in the US compared to single payer systems. Over 80% of America is happy with health care. Fix it for the 15%, don't wreck the system!
Using your own example about monopolies, the health insurance industry is a monopoly that profits from denying health care. 45+ million uninsured Americans apparently is just fine with their bottom line, but it should be unacceptable for the rest of us.
You did not use my example of a monopoly. Which 1 insurer has the monopoly? Of the 45 million, only 18 million are those that can't afford, or can't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions. 27 million are: illegal immigrants, young adults that don't think they need it, or don't want it, and individuals or families that could afford it, but choose not to buy it. Fix the system for the 18 million that need it. 80% of Americans us are happy with receiving the BEST healthcare in the world.
Any one so out of touch with reality to accept those statements as factual should have a helmet and training wheels for their own protection. They're certainly not qualified to even have an opinion on the discussion because those are all factually incorrect. I recommend a basic sociology course at your local community college. There you will cover basic stats for a more accurate view. Here they are:
Health Insurance is an unobtainable benefit that will not be sold to anyone that might need it. I am self-employed and earn plenty of money, but could not buy insurance at any price in the USA because of a pre-existing condition. So I left. Now I am an American Refugee wandering from country to country trying to earn a living, but at least I have health insurance now... of course it is not valid in the USA.
I am so upset that some of our local reps here in south Florida are not supporting this, when my tax dollars are flipping the bill for their health insurance. WTF I have not had health insurance for over 5 years. America needs to move forward and pass this bill to save jobs, boost our economy and frankly save lives. EVERYONE needs to contact their congressional leaders and GET THIS PASSED!
Health care costs are part of the problem we have with job out sourcing; the burden of health care is put on the workers and employers, why cant we have a hybrid type of health care, use income tax money to pay into a non profit system that will pay for coverage for all Americana and then pay back a percentage in the form of a tax refund to the tax payers that dont use the coverage.
NON PROFIT is the key to take the high cost out!!!
We need HR 676 so bad! I've contacted all my state's and other state reps, who have not voted YES to this bill and all they give me is some bull about how it hasn't popped up in their area for voting yet and/or that they prefer the tax break and free-market CRAP!! All they are doing is keeping health insurance companies in the system! makes me sick!! They must all have stock in them or something.
Sorry for double posting. Anyway, I have also learned that a lot of the media news giants are owned by companies like GE Money (who are also in the insurance business). That's why they don't talk much about it, except in passing or to criticise it. That's why journalists like that Beck dude defend insurance companies because people like him have stock in them. Too many conflicts of interest going on and that's just WRONG!!
People with private insurance stock should pull their money out of these stocks and go invest in something that is better for America, like new companies providing jobs for U.S. workers, or bio-fuel companies to get more bio-fuel pumps at gas stations so more people will feel safe to buy hybrids and also to give competition to the gas companies and bring gas prices back down for the rest of us. Then the bottom will fall out of the private market and open up a chance for HR 676!
We need HR 676 so bad! I've contacted all my state's and other state reps, who have not voted YES to this bill and all they give me is some bull about how it hasn't popped up in their area for voting yet and/or that they prefer the tax break and free-market CRAP!! All they are doing is keeping health insurance companies in the system! makes me sick!! They must all have stock in them or something.
We will see an immediate improvement at the hospital level. Employees will no longer be at the mercy of their employeer for their healthcare benifits. Pre existing conditions will be no more. Your benifits and the cost of those benifits will not change on a yearly basis. The advantages go on and on.
Remember the insurance companies and the drug companies do not want this chnage and will do everything in their power to stop it.
In the first place it is unconstitutional .You have NO right to ask me to pay your ins and I have no right to ask you .Second if your congressmen and women would stop with the dumbassed earmarks ( tea museums little bridges with their names on it ) Those that truly need assistance would be covered.Children truly infirmed folks of all ages .I say this as a statement I dont ask "stay out of my pockets " if you dont like this that is your right ,it is my right not to have this foisted on me .
truckdawg43 6 months ago
There's no such thing as "free health care" no matter the system. If you pay taxes your either paying for your Health Care in premiums or High Taxes.
FRSFreeStateES 1 year ago
"single payer means everybody in and nobody out" ? no single payers means one entity provides the source of funding. In Canada there have been lawsuits brought against the government because a doctor started up a practice to provided MRI's and other medical xrays that are greatly rationed in Canada,, he operated independently of the single payers system and people self payed to get faster service, the government fined him and tried to shut him down he took the government to court,, and he won.
juxtn 2 years ago
Health care in Canada isn't free. They just pay up front directly out of their paychecks in the form of higher taxes.
A principle of economics is that monopolies are bad for consumers. A monopoly will increase prices and lower the quality of goods/service. Why do some of you think this principle won't apply to health care?
Check cancer survival rates in the US compared to single payer systems. Over 80% of America is happy with health care. Fix it for the 15%, don't wreck the system!
bman546 2 years ago
Using your own example about monopolies, the health insurance industry is a monopoly that profits from denying health care. 45+ million uninsured Americans apparently is just fine with their bottom line, but it should be unacceptable for the rest of us.
Single-payer now!
rasaxSF 2 years ago 2
You did not use my example of a monopoly. Which 1 insurer has the monopoly? Of the 45 million, only 18 million are those that can't afford, or can't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions. 27 million are: illegal immigrants, young adults that don't think they need it, or don't want it, and individuals or families that could afford it, but choose not to buy it. Fix the system for the 18 million that need it. 80% of Americans us are happy with receiving the BEST healthcare in the world.
bman546 2 years ago
Any one so out of touch with reality to accept those statements as factual should have a helmet and training wheels for their own protection. They're certainly not qualified to even have an opinion on the discussion because those are all factually incorrect. I recommend a basic sociology course at your local community college. There you will cover basic stats for a more accurate view. Here they are:
tinyurl - dot - com/2su3p .
rasaxSF 2 years ago
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Health Insurance is an unobtainable benefit that will not be sold to anyone that might need it. I am self-employed and earn plenty of money, but could not buy insurance at any price in the USA because of a pre-existing condition. So I left. Now I am an American Refugee wandering from country to country trying to earn a living, but at least I have health insurance now... of course it is not valid in the USA.
lamppost2k 2 years ago
I am so upset that some of our local reps here in south Florida are not supporting this, when my tax dollars are flipping the bill for their health insurance. WTF I have not had health insurance for over 5 years. America needs to move forward and pass this bill to save jobs, boost our economy and frankly save lives. EVERYONE needs to contact their congressional leaders and GET THIS PASSED!
supertayon 2 years ago
Health care costs are part of the problem we have with job out sourcing; the burden of health care is put on the workers and employers, why cant we have a hybrid type of health care, use income tax money to pay into a non profit system that will pay for coverage for all Americana and then pay back a percentage in the form of a tax refund to the tax payers that dont use the coverage.
NON PROFIT is the key to take the high cost out!!!
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
I've contacted my representative awhile back and I was very enthused recently to see that she had signed on. Go Tammy Baldwin!
coffeebuzzz2 3 years ago
NADER/Gonzalez are for single-payer Health Care
so ALL Americans will have it and the MAJORITY want.
NO more PAY-or-DIE Healthcare $ystem!
18,000 Americans WILL DIE next year who lack access to health care!
47 Million Americans HAVE NO health care!
Vote Nader/Gonzalez '08!
travelfar22 3 years ago
We need HR 676 so bad! I've contacted all my state's and other state reps, who have not voted YES to this bill and all they give me is some bull about how it hasn't popped up in their area for voting yet and/or that they prefer the tax break and free-market CRAP!! All they are doing is keeping health insurance companies in the system! makes me sick!! They must all have stock in them or something.
odetomy 3 years ago
Sorry for double posting. Anyway, I have also learned that a lot of the media news giants are owned by companies like GE Money (who are also in the insurance business). That's why they don't talk much about it, except in passing or to criticise it. That's why journalists like that Beck dude defend insurance companies because people like him have stock in them. Too many conflicts of interest going on and that's just WRONG!!
odetomy 3 years ago
People with private insurance stock should pull their money out of these stocks and go invest in something that is better for America, like new companies providing jobs for U.S. workers, or bio-fuel companies to get more bio-fuel pumps at gas stations so more people will feel safe to buy hybrids and also to give competition to the gas companies and bring gas prices back down for the rest of us. Then the bottom will fall out of the private market and open up a chance for HR 676!
odetomy 3 years ago
We need HR 676 so bad! I've contacted all my state's and other state reps, who have not voted YES to this bill and all they give me is some bull about how it hasn't popped up in their area for voting yet and/or that they prefer the tax break and free-market CRAP!! All they are doing is keeping health insurance companies in the system! makes me sick!! They must all have stock in them or something.
odetomy 3 years ago
Write your congeressman to support HR bill 676
We will see an immediate improvement at the hospital level. Employees will no longer be at the mercy of their employeer for their healthcare benifits. Pre existing conditions will be no more. Your benifits and the cost of those benifits will not change on a yearly basis. The advantages go on and on.
Remember the insurance companies and the drug companies do not want this chnage and will do everything in their power to stop it.
michaelchapmanrn 3 years ago