Not the prettiest sail, huge crease there:) Holy crap though, sure goes well!!!! I would l love a little machine such as this...imagine the places you could sail without having to haul a great big trailer around.
In the UK there is some inflatable Cat on the market...its not the 'Catapult' this new one looks pretty darn ugly but has had some good reviews....but I would prefer the grp/foam board design...where can I get one?
planning hydrocat is nearly finished,,from windsurfing stuff,,the only headache was the double rudder that i had to design and build from scratch,,,its finished now ,,first test at the weekend so i can set it up with slight weather helm
Hi Tony, sorry I don't think I answered this earlier. Pretty sure we set it up with a tiny bit of weather helm .
The amount of helm changed slightly depending how fast it was planing and how much the nose was lifting out of the water but I never remember it with any lee helm
from 4.5 metre to 12 metre-the windsurf sails i have are handbuilt hi tech
and have great wing shape and rake,so although smaller than the sail on this vid
i rather fancy their design will make up for the smaller sail area
i have canted both hulls to allow for pitch,,my only worry is the shape of the boards,,i would prefer long straight hard chines ,,but will have to go with what i have,,a small dagger at the side may help if it bears away to much flying
Good luck with that project. I was wondering how big your sail area will be. I think a normal sailboard rig area might be a bit small unless you expect strong winds.
I found my c.a.d. drawings from 1983 which were used in the 17ft cat design registration.
I have a single photo of my brother shaping the hulls but not the three slides we took of it at the beach. I loaned them to my engineering lecturer to show to his friend years ago and he has since passed .
That rear sitting position was good for locking your feet around the rear beam for hiking and precise control.
Having a flat hull and daggerboards meant the itza could turn and tack faster than any other cat..as fast as any monohull so small tiller movements made rapid changes in direction at speed and a secure position was helpful.
The aft position was good for trim angle for planing before we tried step-hulls, like up-trim on an outboard.
We had it paced by a skiboat around 40km'hr or more.
The friend's ski boat on this day on pittwater when we filmed had no speed meter, just a tacho so I have no idea exactly how fast it was going, but nowhere near as fast as it could with the better sail. Not even close. I wish we had had a vid cam on those days.
I remember blasting past hobie 18s and the incredible almost rock-hard hammering ride when it was really trucking over chop and lifting right over the top, skittering over the wave crests just like a sailboard. It Jiggled the eyeballs!
Notice how it easily keeps pace with the camera skiboat even though the sail used on this particular day was very poorly cut and the boat is generating a fraction of the power possible.
Very tippy rig
stoichiometric 2 months ago
dayum baby thats fangin
CottonSox7 6 months ago
What company produced this when it was still in production? And do you think there is any chance of me finding one in the US?
sailing96 7 months ago
Not the prettiest sail, huge crease there:) Holy crap though, sure goes well!!!! I would l love a little machine such as this...imagine the places you could sail without having to haul a great big trailer around.
In the UK there is some inflatable Cat on the market...its not the 'Catapult' this new one looks pretty darn ugly but has had some good reviews....but I would prefer the grp/foam board design...where can I get one?
robraver 11 months ago
@robraver
They are extremely rare even in Australia and I think only a few ended up in theUK. We stopped making them in the mid 1980s
Yes, very versatile with the car topping.
The best thing would be to try to emulate the design principles yourself unless one crops up on ebay?
The transport cost from anywhere other than the UK might be a bit steep!
Good luck!
GregOrca 11 months ago
confiscated - bloody hell!
doughaines720 1 year ago
planning hydrocat is nearly finished,,from windsurfing stuff,,the only headache was the double rudder that i had to design and build from scratch,,,its finished now ,,first test at the weekend so i can set it up with slight weather helm
kayak sailing for speed frontpage
google the above,,and it should be the top link
tonyboysax 1 year ago
one thing i forgot to ask
did your design naturally want to round up into the wind--slight weather helm
or was it neutral helm
tonyboysax 1 year ago
@tonyboysax
Hi Tony, sorry I don't think I answered this earlier. Pretty sure we set it up with a tiny bit of weather helm .
The amount of helm changed slightly depending how fast it was planing and how much the nose was lifting out of the water but I never remember it with any lee helm
GregOrca 11 months ago
i have 8 different size sails to test
from 4.5 metre to 12 metre-the windsurf sails i have are handbuilt hi tech
and have great wing shape and rake,so although smaller than the sail on this vid
i rather fancy their design will make up for the smaller sail area
i have canted both hulls to allow for pitch,,my only worry is the shape of the boards,,i would prefer long straight hard chines ,,but will have to go with what i have,,a small dagger at the side may help if it bears away to much flying
tonyboysax 1 year ago
are there any plans to buils this?
squarcitto 1 year ago
@squarcitto
This was a production boat sold in Australia and the USA in the early 1980s
I'd like one day to make a production version of the two man step hull 17ft boat we made back then as a single prototype.
A bit busy at the moment to get around to that
GregOrca 1 year ago
@GregOrca
I was thinking that I already have two big longboards, and maybe would be pretty easy to work on...Is there any similar project that you know?
Thanks!
squarcitto 1 year ago
@squarcitto i am using my windsurf boards
there are pics on my facebook page
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tonyboysax 1 year ago
@tonyboysax Very interesting blog tony. Cheap&chic ;)
squarcitto 1 year ago
hi greg
just wondered if you had tracked down the pics of the 17ft cat
my windsurf board cat is coming along nicely,,im,e ready to put the mast on now
and rig it,,last thing is building the double rudder,,thats giving me a headache
tonyboysax 1 year ago
@tonyboysax
Hi Tony.
Good luck with that project. I was wondering how big your sail area will be. I think a normal sailboard rig area might be a bit small unless you expect strong winds.
I found my c.a.d. drawings from 1983 which were used in the 17ft cat design registration.
I have a single photo of my brother shaping the hulls but not the three slides we took of it at the beach. I loaned them to my engineering lecturer to show to his friend years ago and he has since passed .
GregOrca 1 year ago
@tonyboysax Hope you got your windsurf board cat done I'll look for posts if not I have lots of ideas to fix your double rudder problems.
johnjtech 1 year ago
Nice boat but where is the skippers life jacket?
superhobieboy 1 year ago
how long is this version in ft,,somewhere around 14ft i guess
tonyboysax 1 year ago
@tonyboysax
Hi tony. 3.7metres
GregOrca 1 year ago
@GregOrca Oh, sorry, that means 12ft
GregOrca 1 year ago
very simalar to windsurf boards
i bet two w/s boards with this set up would perform well
tonyboysax 1 year ago
LOL. Fantastic.
KOYOTE33 1 year ago
Nice, You would go 2 times faster if You could get it to plane like a windsurfer.
FrekeOne 2 years ago
look how twisted up it is a 1:25
lego720 2 years ago
where's the hydrofoil stuff?
eNopLuSuS 2 years ago
That itzacat has four hydrofoils. ie, two daggerboards and two rudders.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
nice, it looks cool. Although a bit flat from what I'm used.
eNopLuSuS 2 years ago
@MeanMarthur there is no hydrofoils,,just two dagger board and tiller rudders
tonyboysax 1 year ago
Yours is definitely more stable than mine was. You seem a bit far aft.
That sail is rubbish - just as mine was.
What was the best speed you achieved?
beachcomber2008 2 years ago
That rear sitting position was good for locking your feet around the rear beam for hiking and precise control.
Having a flat hull and daggerboards meant the itza could turn and tack faster than any other cat..as fast as any monohull so small tiller movements made rapid changes in direction at speed and a secure position was helpful.
The aft position was good for trim angle for planing before we tried step-hulls, like up-trim on an outboard.
We had it paced by a skiboat around 40km'hr or more.
GregOrca 2 years ago
The friend's ski boat on this day on pittwater when we filmed had no speed meter, just a tacho so I have no idea exactly how fast it was going, but nowhere near as fast as it could with the better sail. Not even close. I wish we had had a vid cam on those days.
I remember blasting past hobie 18s and the incredible almost rock-hard hammering ride when it was really trucking over chop and lifting right over the top, skittering over the wave crests just like a sailboard. It Jiggled the eyeballs!
GregOrca 2 years ago
Notice how it easily keeps pace with the camera skiboat even though the sail used on this particular day was very poorly cut and the boat is generating a fraction of the power possible.
GregOrca 2 years ago