Absolutely fantastic performance! You people created something uniquely beautiful. I keep listening to this performance at least once a week and I strongly believe that it will remain in my playlist for at least the next three hundred years. Is there by any chance a version with a higher bitrate available online / on CD?
@ChilSeongGeom Unlikely. If you examine the page where he stopped writing, you can see that the irregular & faulty ruling of the remaining staves did not permit him to continue on that page, and he ended deliberately at a cadence back the tonic. This suggests he continued writing on a new page, lost by his heirs.
His last creative effort "in his blindness" may have been dictation of a few changes to a score someone played for him: the so-called "deathbed chorale" he'd composed years before.
@enecee13 This is music of high complexity.. most of the popular music is just rubbish thats why i prefer to listen to metal or classical as these genres still contain creativity..
Almost 20 years ago when I was 17 I was at the CD store and came across a 2-CD set called Die Kunst Der Fuge performed by Zoltan Kocsis. I had no idea what it was but it was on sale so I bought it. It took a few months listening in my car CD player before it struck me like lightening. This was genius! I became infatuated with the music and listened to it almost every day for years. Like a drug or something. Picking apart the structure. What else is this music hiding? Can make a person crazy.
@matwil74 : I would say Bach's music (aside from the complex structure and counterpoint) is primarily emotionally-driven. His music just pulls at your heart strings and sometimes can make you shed tears, seek solace & comfort or give you joy & contentment. Listening to Bach is a very emotional experience for anyone with a heart.
@gariadara One of the characteristics of the Baroque is "Baroque dissonance." What you're hearing as dissonance in this fugue is the result of passing tones and suspensions, both normal features of counterpoint.
The music is an endless amount of perfect modulation, it has a sense of permanency to it, to have it cut short as it is pains me, saddens me to the core.
So while some of you are listening to the greatest music ever written, being performed by the only ensemble worthy of even touching it/directed for the past three decades by the only man of our time who comes close to understanding Bach's music, you are ARGUING and namecalling....If it wasn't worth more than your pathetic lives, I'd tell Goebel to whip you all with the stick of his bow.....
Thank you for posting these videos, fabian1333. Are they available on DVD?
Un'emozione pura......musica allo stato puro.....tutto il resto puo' chiamarsi musica.... ma niente potra' uguagliare questa purezza!!!!!! Bach divino
The saddest fugue, excellent interpretation, I always thought that the art of fugue will sound better as chamber music, but i also love it on any instrument, cause that what the art of fugue is all about.
The Art of Fugue, along with the B Minor Mass, is Bach pulling the strands of his musical life together. We'll never know if Bach died in the midst of composing Contrapunctus XIV or if his blindness prevented him from finishing the work. My guess is the latter. He was so dedicated to composing that after his blindness fully set in he could no longer see to work, much less perform. Thus, the last notes of music he may have seen with his own eyes were the ones in Contrapunctus XIV.
When I first listened to this astonishing work (c. Rudolf Barshai, Moscow Chamber Orchestra) It was also the first and only time in my life when I had to invent feelings to represent this music with my soul own means. Not anger, not pain, not joy - nothing I had ever experienced before. It's probably the kind of delight the angels have or that 'harmony of the spheres' Pythagoras was talking about. Danke, Herr Bach!
maybe he died after introducing the B-A-C-H theme. but maybe he left it unfinished on purpose, as a challenge to his successors. he was, after all, a teacher, so i wouldn't put it past him to do something like that.
or maybe he did intend to finish it, with a final reappearance of the subject from contrapunctus 1 at the end, only to pass away first.... we will never know
@thegoddescomposer Go to your local record store and say: May I have Musica Antiqua Kölns recording of Die Kunst der Fuge and they will satisfy your needs.
@HerrWarja i am 20 years old people will think this kid is strange <,< i do like hear classical music first not but when i hear Bach
First was k thats was nice but then i want to listening more and i did study his works his fugues and his art of the fugue well i think i order some cd , thanks
Actually, It is thought that Bach wanted to introduce the theme from Contrapunctus 1 as the fourth theme, at which point all themes from "Art of Fugue" would come together in one whole.
Although it does have a bit more of what I call "wow" than I care for.
I like that they maintain the volume and intensity until (almost) the final note. When each instrument plays as if it weren't going to end, and then simply stops when the notes run out, then the effect is like taking off in a jet plane!
I know the alto part well since I've played it on treble viol (with 3 other viol players). During the 1st entrance of the 2nd subject in the soprano, the counterpoint in the alto dips down to f, which is in the range of the treble viol but a whole step below the range of the violin. In this performance by 2 violins, viola and cello the the alto part was slightly altered to keep it in the range of the violin: (c'bag fg'f'e') was changed to (c'bag' f'g'f'e').
@Terrdemarzielle Patterns can arise unintentionally, by mere coincidence. One can look at the stars in the sky and see patterns. that does not prove the patterns were designed.
@lordulric42 No. It actually sounds in D minor. Musica Antiqua Koeln is a period instrumental ensemble that tunes to A415, which is a 1/2 step lower than A440.
It sounds in C# minor only if you assume they tune to A440.
Contrary to what you seem to believe, A440 tuning is not a law of nature and people are not born with their ears tuned to A440.
@wcbroccoli We are in 2010, not 1750... this piece sounds in C# (although a little higher due to the fact they are all playing slightly sharp. Not a criticism considering they are all amazing players and in tune with each other - just an observation). I don't think i'm the only person that thinks you're an idiot. Just have a look at some of the ridiculous comments you've posted.
Maybe you should comment on the music rather than wanking yourself off in the comments section.
@wcbroccoli@wcbroccoli We are in 2010, not 1750... this piece sounds in C# (although a little higher due to the fact they are all playing slightly sharp. Not a criticism considering they are all amazing players and in tune with each other - just an observation). I don't think i'm the only person that thinks you're an idiot. Just have a look at some of the ridiculous comments you've posted.
Maybe you should comment on the music rather than wanking yourself off in the comments section.
@lordulric42 Clearly, you are the idiot, for in 2010 the numerous period instrument ensembles tune to A415 or A465, not A440. Apparently you didn't get the memo. Get with the program.
A440 did not even become an international "standard" until the 1950s, before the advent of period ensembles, yet even today some major philharmonics tune even higher than A440.
I AM commenting about the music. As I said, it's in D minor at A415, not C#. Nothing you say will change that FACT.
@wcbroccoli Haha, I am aware about period ensembles. They may in fact be playing in D... but it's sounding in C# as A440 is, as you said, the international standard. FACT.
@lordulric42 Haha. If you were aware of it, then why did you insist "it actually sounds in C#" in the first place? Answer: Because you're an idiot.
FACT: The so-called A440 "standard" wasn't adopted until the to 1950s, BEFORE the advent of period instrument ensembles. By definition, a historically inforrmed performance would not follow a modern tuning standard.
FACT: The so-called A440 "standard" isn't even folowed by all major modern instrument groups. Some tune higher.
@StefanoF87 cause, you know, Bach knew English considering the fact that he was German. Comeon man. And where did the 2 come from? 14/2? You just randomly pulled a two and divided 14 by it to get 7. lol
@StefanoF87 The 1st subject of C14 has 7 notes, the 2nd has 41, the 3rd (the B-A-C-H subject) has 10, and the main subject of AoF, which combines with the three subjects of C14, has 12 notes. I don't see intentional numeric symbolism in these note counts.
If the composer intended numeric symbolism by the note counts of his subjects, then why does the B-A-C-H subject have only 10 notes, instead of 14?
The entire AofF is a treatise on the 12-note theme (T1) introduced in C1. T1 appears in some form in every fugue and every canon of AofF. It has even been shown that C14 was to be a 4-subject fugue with T1 as the 4th subject. The 4 subjects of C14 consist of 7, 41, 10 and 12 notes, respectively.
The last fugue is #14 and B+A+C+H add up to 14. But B, A, C, & H are merely the 1st four notes of the 10 notes that make up the third of FOUR subjects of C14.
@wcbroccoli No one is saying that everything has to be fourteen. We can see how this number is clearly important and relevant since it was Bach's number...He choose the C14 to introduce his name (which adds 14). And if we add 12(t1), 7(t2), 10(t3), and 12(t4, the original AoF theme) it adds 41, which is 14 backwards....
@wcbroccoli You're right... it's way off... Still, i don't think everything has to spell 14 on it. I think it was Bach number and he did find the ways to include it on his work,
@MUSCEDEHP But what qualifies as inclusion? Various orderings of the notes B A C H, all of which add up to 14, are common to many compositions by composers who died before Bach was ever born. E.g., the chromatic scales C H B A and A B H C and are found in Renaissance music. But show me where Bach spelled out his name in consecutive notes B A C H in, say, prelude #1 from WTC?
Or in this YouTube aria from BWV 132: /watch?v=bss-rU_zgWo
@anisometropie the comments field doesn't allow URLs to be posted so that I had to add spaces. It's the most convincing ending I've ever heard. It's definitely not by me. I shall not say who.
gorgeous... this is one of the few recordings I've heard of this in the Baroque temperament (sounding in c# minor rather than d minor), and it's dazzling... my favorite moment is the cello subject entry between 3:00-3:15
you're talking about tonality, not temperament which is a way of tuning your instrument ( equal temperament, Pythagorean tuning. But temperament has nothing to do with the art of fugue, but more likely with the well tempered clavier
I mentioned tonality (d-minor), pitch (A415) and the fact that the pitch to which an ensemble tunes had nothing to do with the temperament in which they PLAY.
A string ensemble tunes the open strings to perfect 5ths and 8ves, but this does not relieve them of the responsibility of TEMPERING notes to obtain pure triads. The result is that they tend to PLAY in a temperament that resembles mean tone.
E.g, G# in a E-major triad is not the same pitch as A-flat in an A-flat major triad.
The first subject is played very beautifully. Being surrounded by those giant, soft waves of mezmorizing harmonies is a good way to spend time. The way they play the 2nd and 3rd fugue subkects isn't much to my taste though. Thanks for posting!
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I found it as notes and then i made it with a music notation program
Enlightenment82 1 week ago
Too fucking fast.
HerlockSholmes123 1 month ago
Absolutely fantastic performance! You people created something uniquely beautiful. I keep listening to this performance at least once a week and I strongly believe that it will remain in my playlist for at least the next three hundred years. Is there by any chance a version with a higher bitrate available online / on CD?
ulih79 2 months ago
Contrappuntisticamente parlando sicuramente superiore a Dio
AlessandroGradi 2 months ago
@AlessandroGradi e c'e' chi ritiene che Sorabij col suo opus clavicembalisticum abbia fatto di meglio....poracci
vinciano 1 month ago
PRIMUS INTERPARES!!! BACH LOVES JESUS AND I WILL SEE HIM IN HEAVEN ONE DAY! PRAISE GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zinpgh 3 months ago
Bach, Monteverdi, then everybody else.
jeffwyss 5 months ago
This music is so sad to listen to, because it's Johann's last piece...
but you find solace in that you know he died doing what he loved most.
ChilSeongGeom 6 months ago
@ChilSeongGeom Unlikely. If you examine the page where he stopped writing, you can see that the irregular & faulty ruling of the remaining staves did not permit him to continue on that page, and he ended deliberately at a cadence back the tonic. This suggests he continued writing on a new page, lost by his heirs.
His last creative effort "in his blindness" may have been dictation of a few changes to a score someone played for him: the so-called "deathbed chorale" he'd composed years before.
wcbroccoli 5 months ago
How can you ever listen to anything and call it music after youve heard this
enecee13 8 months ago 8
@enecee13 This is music of high complexity.. most of the popular music is just rubbish thats why i prefer to listen to metal or classical as these genres still contain creativity..
benniebees 2 months ago
the end gives me goosebumps every single time..
DylanAKAoXi 10 months ago
Happy birthday, big guy. /singletear
sohanstag 10 months ago
Almost 20 years ago when I was 17 I was at the CD store and came across a 2-CD set called Die Kunst Der Fuge performed by Zoltan Kocsis. I had no idea what it was but it was on sale so I bought it. It took a few months listening in my car CD player before it struck me like lightening. This was genius! I became infatuated with the music and listened to it almost every day for years. Like a drug or something. Picking apart the structure. What else is this music hiding? Can make a person crazy.
matwil74 1 year ago 9
@matwil74 : I would say Bach's music (aside from the complex structure and counterpoint) is primarily emotionally-driven. His music just pulls at your heart strings and sometimes can make you shed tears, seek solace & comfort or give you joy & contentment. Listening to Bach is a very emotional experience for anyone with a heart.
mtv565 1 year ago 3
@matwil74 yeah theres just so much to hear and each time you listen to it you discover something new...
benniebees 2 months ago
Amazing. Just amazing. Close your eyes when you listen to it. Depth.
sosome57 1 year ago
It's mind-boggling how much dissonance there is in this piece, and to have it come from the Baroque period.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara One of the characteristics of the Baroque is "Baroque dissonance." What you're hearing as dissonance in this fugue is the result of passing tones and suspensions, both normal features of counterpoint.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
B= Bb
A=A
C=C
H=B
That is the first theme in the fugue
hatstalker 1 year ago
@hatstalker No. That is the beginning of the 3rd subject. The 1st is D A G F G A D.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
The music is an endless amount of perfect modulation, it has a sense of permanency to it, to have it cut short as it is pains me, saddens me to the core.
hatstalker 1 year ago
So while some of you are listening to the greatest music ever written, being performed by the only ensemble worthy of even touching it/directed for the past three decades by the only man of our time who comes close to understanding Bach's music, you are ARGUING and namecalling....If it wasn't worth more than your pathetic lives, I'd tell Goebel to whip you all with the stick of his bow.....
Thank you for posting these videos, fabian1333. Are they available on DVD?
OldFashionedMama23 1 year ago
Un'emozione pura......musica allo stato puro.....tutto il resto puo' chiamarsi musica.... ma niente potra' uguagliare questa purezza!!!!!! Bach divino
Bach45ex 1 year ago
This ending is so ghostly, as though Bach managed to preserve the moment of his death within his music. Beautiful interpretation.
klyde4parliament 1 year ago
my favorite classical composer... thank you for posting this.
worthmoremusic 1 year ago
There's no music that can touch me emotionally so strong like Contrapunctus 14.
I dont know why, its the best music ever composed. I think its impossible to do something better than this.
JHLGuitar 1 year ago
The saddest fugue, excellent interpretation, I always thought that the art of fugue will sound better as chamber music, but i also love it on any instrument, cause that what the art of fugue is all about.
tommyIglesias 1 year ago
The Art of Fugue, along with the B Minor Mass, is Bach pulling the strands of his musical life together. We'll never know if Bach died in the midst of composing Contrapunctus XIV or if his blindness prevented him from finishing the work. My guess is the latter. He was so dedicated to composing that after his blindness fully set in he could no longer see to work, much less perform. Thus, the last notes of music he may have seen with his own eyes were the ones in Contrapunctus XIV.
PrecicyJax 1 year ago
E' di una modernità e complessità sconvolgenti.
SeverusSnape70 1 year ago
When I first listened to this astonishing work (c. Rudolf Barshai, Moscow Chamber Orchestra) It was also the first and only time in my life when I had to invent feelings to represent this music with my soul own means. Not anger, not pain, not joy - nothing I had ever experienced before. It's probably the kind of delight the angels have or that 'harmony of the spheres' Pythagoras was talking about. Danke, Herr Bach!
PrickStanda 1 year ago
maybe he died after introducing the B-A-C-H theme. but maybe he left it unfinished on purpose, as a challenge to his successors. he was, after all, a teacher, so i wouldn't put it past him to do something like that.
or maybe he did intend to finish it, with a final reappearance of the subject from contrapunctus 1 at the end, only to pass away first.... we will never know
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
trying to talk about music is like dancing to architecture, why bother to try ? Be happy that you walked the planet with these cats :)
Minor8Flat4 1 year ago
Will there ever someone to compose something like this again?
a little question from Venezuela.....
WladimirKowtun 1 year ago
how can i download this master piece i need it
thegoddescomposer 1 year ago
@thegoddescomposer Go to your local record store and say: May I have Musica Antiqua Kölns recording of Die Kunst der Fuge and they will satisfy your needs.
HerrWarja 1 year ago
@HerrWarja i am 20 years old people will think this kid is strange <,< i do like hear classical music first not but when i hear Bach
First was k thats was nice but then i want to listening more and i did study his works his fugues and his art of the fugue well i think i order some cd , thanks
thegoddescomposer 1 year ago
@thegoddescomposer Im no kid! Glad you liked Bach!
HerrWarja 1 year ago
@HerrWarja no i was talking about my self xD u miss understood it :(
thegoddescomposer 1 year ago
@thegoddescomposer I see. Indeed I did. But still glad you liked Bach!
HerrWarja 1 year ago
such a beautifully somber rendition. the sound of mournful reflection.
FuggyWug 1 year ago
Right when Bach "signed" his name in musical notes, God decided to take him away. R.I.P.
pieguyfry22 1 year ago
give it the bach!
recrea33 1 year ago
Magnificent performance. Took my breath away.
StevenShields29 2 years ago
Exquisita la transcripción e interpretación.
Inacabada.
Bach,se convierte en el eterno retorno.
paradoxicus 2 years ago
What if Bach had one day or one week more to write the end ?
Would this fugue be more of less impressive ? Is this dramatic end more intense as it is ?
pierrot79 2 years ago
@pierrot79
Actually, It is thought that Bach wanted to introduce the theme from Contrapunctus 1 as the fourth theme, at which point all themes from "Art of Fugue" would come together in one whole.
That would have been (even) more impressive.
Dynomiss 2 years ago
7:35............holy lord
drlawitts 2 years ago 3
very beautiful. Tender and sad, full of spirit. Thank you.
heinrichschwettmann 2 years ago 2
Very, VERY nice. I love arte and I love bach and most his fugues! Great!
Echnaton1993 2 years ago
Oh... my goodness! This is such a beautiful interpretation... and it does bring tears to my eyes too!
Josicauc 2 years ago 4
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55penta55 2 years ago
Simply beautiful :)
Thanks for posting.
MusicPortray 2 years ago 2
This brings tears to my eyes.
RainMan34 2 years ago 3
Healing music for the soul.
sataviah93 2 years ago 3
bach is the greatest composer ever!
So a final...
patoa94 2 years ago 5
Transcripción e interpretación muy buena.
debartzen 3 years ago 2
最爱巴赫最后两部伟大的音乐巨作《赋格的艺术》和《音乐的奉献》!不过这个演录视频是否业余四重奏组所为的?
sanqiutang 3 years ago
Very nice - 5 stars.
Although it does have a bit more of what I call "wow" than I care for.
I like that they maintain the volume and intensity until (almost) the final note. When each instrument plays as if it weren't going to end, and then simply stops when the notes run out, then the effect is like taking off in a jet plane!
LDixon007 3 years ago 2
Superb, simply wondeful
nakaza3421 3 years ago
I know the alto part well since I've played it on treble viol (with 3 other viol players). During the 1st entrance of the 2nd subject in the soprano, the counterpoint in the alto dips down to f, which is in the range of the treble viol but a whole step below the range of the violin. In this performance by 2 violins, viola and cello the the alto part was slightly altered to keep it in the range of the violin: (c'bag fg'f'e') was changed to (c'bag' f'g'f'e').
Just thought I'd mention that. LOL
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
B=2 A=1 C=3 H=8 B+A+C+H=14
The Fugues in "Die Kunst der Fuga" are 14.
The last contrapunctus, that had the fugue on "B-A-C-H" theme, is the number 14.
The first subject of the Contrapunctus XIV consists in 7 notes (=14/2).
In my opinion, Bach is the greatest genious of all time.
Sorry for my english.
StefanoF87 3 years ago 33
Don't look for patterns where they don't exist.
Scrithe 3 years ago
Intentional or not, it exists.
Terrdemarzielle 3 years ago
nothings in His music was done by luck...
HelveteKeiser 3 years ago 2
@Terrdemarzielle Patterns can arise unintentionally, by mere coincidence. One can look at the stars in the sky and see patterns. that does not prove the patterns were designed.
wcbroccoli 5 months ago
@wcbroccoli Certainly. But why are you telling me this?
Terrdemarzielle 5 months ago
His earlier version of AOF, written 8 years before he died, had 14 movements consisting of 12 fugues and 2 canons.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
@wcbroccoli you're an idiot. And by the way... it actually sounds in C#. Not D.
lordulric42 1 year ago
@lordulric42 No. It actually sounds in D minor. Musica Antiqua Koeln is a period instrumental ensemble that tunes to A415, which is a 1/2 step lower than A440.
It sounds in C# minor only if you assume they tune to A440.
Contrary to what you seem to believe, A440 tuning is not a law of nature and people are not born with their ears tuned to A440.
And by the way... you're an idiot.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli We are in 2010, not 1750... this piece sounds in C# (although a little higher due to the fact they are all playing slightly sharp. Not a criticism considering they are all amazing players and in tune with each other - just an observation). I don't think i'm the only person that thinks you're an idiot. Just have a look at some of the ridiculous comments you've posted.
Maybe you should comment on the music rather than wanking yourself off in the comments section.
lordulric42 1 year ago
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@wcbroccoli @wcbroccoli We are in 2010, not 1750... this piece sounds in C# (although a little higher due to the fact they are all playing slightly sharp. Not a criticism considering they are all amazing players and in tune with each other - just an observation). I don't think i'm the only person that thinks you're an idiot. Just have a look at some of the ridiculous comments you've posted.
Maybe you should comment on the music rather than wanking yourself off in the comments section.
lordulric42 1 year ago
@lordulric42 Clearly, you are the idiot, for in 2010 the numerous period instrument ensembles tune to A415 or A465, not A440. Apparently you didn't get the memo. Get with the program.
A440 did not even become an international "standard" until the 1950s, before the advent of period ensembles, yet even today some major philharmonics tune even higher than A440.
I AM commenting about the music. As I said, it's in D minor at A415, not C#. Nothing you say will change that FACT.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli Haha, I am aware about period ensembles. They may in fact be playing in D... but it's sounding in C# as A440 is, as you said, the international standard. FACT.
You're an idiot. FACT.
lordulric42 1 year ago
@lordulric42 Haha. If you were aware of it, then why did you insist "it actually sounds in C#" in the first place? Answer: Because you're an idiot.
FACT: The so-called A440 "standard" wasn't adopted until the to 1950s, BEFORE the advent of period instrument ensembles. By definition, a historically inforrmed performance would not follow a modern tuning standard.
FACT: The so-called A440 "standard" isn't even folowed by all major modern instrument groups. Some tune higher.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli hey idiot... because it does sound in C#, not D. It is played in D, it doesn't sound in D. You need to get yourself some pitch, brother.
lordulric42 1 year ago
-sorry for my english-
thank you for your ideas
HelveteKeiser 3 years ago
@StefanoF87 cause, you know, Bach knew English considering the fact that he was German. Comeon man. And where did the 2 come from? 14/2? You just randomly pulled a two and divided 14 by it to get 7. lol
mjvsbj 1 year ago
@StefanoF87 well, quite interesting, but i doubt Bach planed this fugue to be the last
Bataja706 1 year ago
@Bataja706 Maybe not the last but he knew it was coming soon...
veliusmemnoch 5 months ago
@StefanoF87 gues what the last 2th motif on his last repeating it has 41 notes
thegoddescomposer 1 year ago
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wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@StefanoF87 The 1st subject of C14 has 7 notes, the 2nd has 41, the 3rd (the B-A-C-H subject) has 10, and the main subject of AoF, which combines with the three subjects of C14, has 12 notes. I don't see intentional numeric symbolism in these note counts.
If the composer intended numeric symbolism by the note counts of his subjects, then why does the B-A-C-H subject have only 10 notes, instead of 14?
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli because BACH already has the number fourteen on it... B=2, A=1, C=3, H=8 (counting the alphabet)
MUSCEDEHP 5 months ago
@MUSCEDEHP What does that prove?
The entire AofF is a treatise on the 12-note theme (T1) introduced in C1. T1 appears in some form in every fugue and every canon of AofF. It has even been shown that C14 was to be a 4-subject fugue with T1 as the 4th subject. The 4 subjects of C14 consist of 7, 41, 10 and 12 notes, respectively.
The last fugue is #14 and B+A+C+H add up to 14. But B, A, C, & H are merely the 1st four notes of the 10 notes that make up the third of FOUR subjects of C14.
wcbroccoli 5 months ago
@wcbroccoli No one is saying that everything has to be fourteen. We can see how this number is clearly important and relevant since it was Bach's number...He choose the C14 to introduce his name (which adds 14). And if we add 12(t1), 7(t2), 10(t3), and 12(t4, the original AoF theme) it adds 41, which is 14 backwards....
MUSCEDEHP 5 months ago
@MUSCEDEHP Your note counts and total are off.
The 1st subject of C14 has 7 notes, not 12; the 2nd has at least 41 notes, not 7; the 3rd has 10 notes; the 4th has 12 notes.
Add them up and you get 7 + 41 + 10 + 12 = 70, not 41.
The letters in "J.S. Bach" add up to 41 only if you use the old Roman alphabet, which Bach did not use when he abbreviated "Jesu, juva" as "JJ".
Furthermore, the 2nd subject may have more than 41 notes, depending on what you take to be the last note.
wcbroccoli 5 months ago
@wcbroccoli You're right... it's way off... Still, i don't think everything has to spell 14 on it. I think it was Bach number and he did find the ways to include it on his work,
MUSCEDEHP 5 months ago
@MUSCEDEHP But what qualifies as inclusion? Various orderings of the notes B A C H, all of which add up to 14, are common to many compositions by composers who died before Bach was ever born. E.g., the chromatic scales C H B A and A B H C and are found in Renaissance music. But show me where Bach spelled out his name in consecutive notes B A C H in, say, prelude #1 from WTC?
Or in this YouTube aria from BWV 132: /watch?v=bss-rU_zgWo
wcbroccoli 5 months ago
It just stuns me to hear it end like that.
Makes me think just how short our time in this world is.
ShinAkiraX 3 years ago
memento mori
HelveteKeiser 3 years ago
the world could stop to exist when this music ends, everything has already be said
anisometropie 3 years ago 3
I never imagined this done by string quartet but it is astonishingly beautiful.
tnix80 3 years ago
Jesus i reached the end ! it can't finish like that !!!!
anisometropie 3 years ago 3
@anisometropie Art of Fugue, Unfinished Fugue's ending:
i1105 . photobucket . com / albums / h352 / artoffugueend / artoffugue_ending . jpg
mtv565 6 months ago
@mtv565 "The image was deleted"
anisometropie 6 months ago
@anisometropie It's still there. You need to delete away the spaces to form one complete URL.
mtv565 6 months ago
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ok there was this strange invisible character. it works now
whose this ending ?
anisometropie 6 months ago
@anisometropie the comments field doesn't allow URLs to be posted so that I had to add spaces. It's the most convincing ending I've ever heard. It's definitely not by me. I shall not say who.
mtv565 6 months ago
how can this possibly exist? it is beyond any music ever composed, and any music that will ever be composed.
anisometropie 3 years ago 39
@anisometropie It is beyond existence. It merely is. It's not just beyond any music ever composed. It's beyond any thing ever created.
It is.
roman1akid 1 year ago
speechless. What a treasure of a recording. Thanks a lot!
radurak 3 years ago 3
gorgeous... this is one of the few recordings I've heard of this in the Baroque temperament (sounding in c# minor rather than d minor), and it's dazzling... my favorite moment is the cello subject entry between 3:00-3:15
BlindfoldBach 3 years ago
It's really sounding in D minor. The pitch to which they've tuned (A415) has nothing to with temperament in which they play.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
you're talking about tonality, not temperament which is a way of tuning your instrument ( equal temperament, Pythagorean tuning. But temperament has nothing to do with the art of fugue, but more likely with the well tempered clavier
anisometropie 3 years ago
I mentioned tonality (d-minor), pitch (A415) and the fact that the pitch to which an ensemble tunes had nothing to do with the temperament in which they PLAY.
A string ensemble tunes the open strings to perfect 5ths and 8ves, but this does not relieve them of the responsibility of TEMPERING notes to obtain pure triads. The result is that they tend to PLAY in a temperament that resembles mean tone.
E.g, G# in a E-major triad is not the same pitch as A-flat in an A-flat major triad.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
If they still play barouqish they could lose those shoulderrests
adaswet 3 years ago
The first subject is played very beautifully. Being surrounded by those giant, soft waves of mezmorizing harmonies is a good way to spend time. The way they play the 2nd and 3rd fugue subkects isn't much to my taste though. Thanks for posting!
Norbeone 3 years ago
"...surrounded by those giant, soft waves of mezmorizing harmonies..."? You sound like a commentator from the 19th century.
I'm curious. How could they have played the 2nd and 3rd subjects to suit your taste?
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
Absolutely gorgeous.
brinmat 3 years ago 2
Wow
davidator321 3 years ago