Does anyone know when Duane S. Crowther first published this work? I've been Googling my eyeballs out to find that one piece of info but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Joseph Smith made some amazingly correct prophecies.
The specific prophecies that are said to be false or incorrect by critics are typically based on hearsay or unreliable sources or are based on incorrect interpretations of what is said. There is no reliable evidence to say that Joseph Smith fails any sound test based on Deut. 18:22.
Many LDS critics attempt to condemn Joseph Smith using a standard that would, if applied to Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Nathan, an angel of God, and Jonah, also condemn the Old Testament as a fraud.
im not even going to talk to you any more because i just found every single comment you have made word for word coppied from a wesite. thats plagerism and means that you dont know what you are talking about.
In 2 Samuel 7:5-17, we read that the prophet Nathan unequivocally prophesied to David that through his son Solomon the Davidic empire would be established "forever," that the children of Israel would dwell in the promised land "and move no more," and that the "children of wickedness" would no longer afflict them. These things are quite clearly stated. No conditions are attached to these promises, none whatsoever.
Ezekiel provides another example of how true prophets may err or give prophecies of uncertain accuracy. In Ezekiel chapters 26, 27, and 28, we read that Tyre (a fortified island city) would be conquered, destroyed, and plundered by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. The riches of Tyre would go to Babylon (Ezekiel 26:12). Nebuchadnezzar's army did lay siege to Tyre, and its inhabitants were afflicted, apparently so much that they shaved their heads bald, as prophesied in (Ezekiel 27:31).
However, the 13-year Babylonian siege apparently was not quite as successful as Ezekiel had predicted, perhaps because the land-based tactics of Babylonian sieges were less effective against a fortified island city with significant maritime power. The result of the siege may have been a compromise or treaty rather than total destruction and plunder, for (Ezekiel 29:17-20) reports that the predicted plundering did not take place.
Almost as if in compensation, the Lord now announces that He will give Egypt to the Babylonians, which is the theme of chapter 29. Here are verses (Ezekiel 29:17-20)
Yes, Tyre is no more, but its complete destruction apparently did not occur during the Babylonian siege, and certainly the Babylonian army did not get the riches of Tyre as has been prophesied. It is Ezekiel himself who reports this "prophetic failure."[
crime will rise with the more people in an area that is a fact and we are born sinners that is a factb in the book of genesis god didnt like how were were bad people so he created the flood. after the flood he said that he would no longer kill every living thing again due to their wickedness.
The promise was that he would not cause that much Global destruction again and set the 'bow' (rain bow) as a token of that promise, when rain bows cease to be seen on the earth, know then, that the promise has been taken away. God can give and take and He does as He pleases.
the verses he is reading does not mention what land so doesnt mean that north america is cursed or blessed, and he did not continue to say in Alma 45:18 where he left zarahemla. where is zarahemla
The Book of Mormon is a History of the peoples of America, so when they say 'this land' it means the land they are on , America, and also the western hemisphere.
No, i have never been to Zarahemla but i have also never been to the USA or any other part of the Americas. I have also never seen God but i know He lives.
well there is no archeaological evedence of it ever being, unlikeeverywhere in the bible. i know my God lives because he healed me and i feel him every day.
Dr. John L. Sorenson, in his 1985 book An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon, created a model in which he postulated a correlation between certain Book of Mormon locations and the geography in the area centered around the Isthmus of Tehuantepec. Dr. Sorenson assumed a correlation between the ancient ruin of Kaminaljuyu (near Guatemala City) and the city of Nephi, with the surrounding land being the Land of Nephi.
well that just happens to be a mayan city not a nephite city there is only evedence of mayans living there. dont forget if a prophet says at least one thing wrong he is a false prophet.(deuteronomy 18:21-22.
you still havent found me some thing that hasent come true in the bible
well you are cutting and pasting from other sites and are taking scripture out of context and are not reading the whole chapter. you still havent found me a prophrcey that hasnt come true in bible
Such unfulfilled prophecies include Jeremiah's prediction of the ignominious fate of Jehoiakim (Jer. 22:19), which was belied by 2 _Kings 24:6, and Ezekiel's foretelling the destruction of Tyre by Nebuchadnezzar (Ez. 26:7-21), which was later admitted to have failed but was to be compensated by the Babylonian king's attack on Egypt (Ez. 29:17-20)"
Be careful in how you apply Deut. 18:22, for you threaten to reject some true prophets in the Bible! There are examples where a true prophet prophesied something which did not happen as he stated, to the best of our knowledge. An example is found in the story of Jonah, who was told by God to prophecy to the people of Nineveh. Jonah prophesied that the people would be destroyed in 40 days (Jonah 3:4).
no loopholes were offered, just imminent doom. God changed things, however, when the people repented and He chose to spare them—much to the chagrin of that imperfect (yet still divinely called) prophet, Jonah.
Jonah, in fact, was "displeased ... exceedingly" and "very angry" (Jonah 4:1) about this change from God, perhaps because it made Jonah look bad. In spite of an "incorrect" prophecy and in spite of the obvious shortcomings of Jonah, he was a prophet of God and the Book of Jonah in the Bible is part of the Word of God.
Wow...Fraser, THANK YOU for these videos. I have read a few of Duane S. Crowther's books and the one book mentioned here is sitting collecting dust on my shelf which i bought 15+ years ago...hmmm, it's no coincidence....Amazing...His Tender Mercies.
Does anyone know when Duane S. Crowther first published this work? I've been Googling my eyeballs out to find that one piece of info but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
ToXicL0gic 11 months ago
The Book of Mormon is the evidence that Joseph Smith is the Prophet of the Restoration.
MrFitzwilly 11 months ago
No i just basically showed you that your reasoning is without substance.
And it wasn't meridian magazing either, it was
FAIRLDSdotORG
and FAIRWIKIdotORG
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
Joseph Smith made some amazingly correct prophecies.
The specific prophecies that are said to be false or incorrect by critics are typically based on hearsay or unreliable sources or are based on incorrect interpretations of what is said. There is no reliable evidence to say that Joseph Smith fails any sound test based on Deut. 18:22.
cont.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
Many LDS critics attempt to condemn Joseph Smith using a standard that would, if applied to Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Nathan, an angel of God, and Jonah, also condemn the Old Testament as a fraud.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
im not even going to talk to you any more because i just found every single comment you have made word for word coppied from a wesite. thats plagerism and means that you dont know what you are talking about.
davidericburrows 2 years ago
the website you copied frome is meridian magazine
davidericburrows 2 years ago
Nathan
Other examples include Nathan:
In 2 Samuel 7:5-17, we read that the prophet Nathan unequivocally prophesied to David that through his son Solomon the Davidic empire would be established "forever," that the children of Israel would dwell in the promised land "and move no more," and that the "children of wickedness" would no longer afflict them. These things are quite clearly stated. No conditions are attached to these promises, none whatsoever.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
Ezekiel
Ezekiel provides another example of how true prophets may err or give prophecies of uncertain accuracy. In Ezekiel chapters 26, 27, and 28, we read that Tyre (a fortified island city) would be conquered, destroyed, and plundered by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. The riches of Tyre would go to Babylon (Ezekiel 26:12). Nebuchadnezzar's army did lay siege to Tyre, and its inhabitants were afflicted, apparently so much that they shaved their heads bald, as prophesied in (Ezekiel 27:31).
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
However, the 13-year Babylonian siege apparently was not quite as successful as Ezekiel had predicted, perhaps because the land-based tactics of Babylonian sieges were less effective against a fortified island city with significant maritime power. The result of the siege may have been a compromise or treaty rather than total destruction and plunder, for (Ezekiel 29:17-20) reports that the predicted plundering did not take place.
cont.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
Almost as if in compensation, the Lord now announces that He will give Egypt to the Babylonians, which is the theme of chapter 29. Here are verses (Ezekiel 29:17-20)
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
Yes, Tyre is no more, but its complete destruction apparently did not occur during the Babylonian siege, and certainly the Babylonian army did not get the riches of Tyre as has been prophesied. It is Ezekiel himself who reports this "prophetic failure."[
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
crime will rise with the more people in an area that is a fact and we are born sinners that is a factb in the book of genesis god didnt like how were were bad people so he created the flood. after the flood he said that he would no longer kill every living thing again due to their wickedness.
davidericburrows 2 years ago
The promise was that he would not cause that much Global destruction again and set the 'bow' (rain bow) as a token of that promise, when rain bows cease to be seen on the earth, know then, that the promise has been taken away. God can give and take and He does as He pleases.
12345fraser 2 years ago
the verses he is reading does not mention what land so doesnt mean that north america is cursed or blessed, and he did not continue to say in Alma 45:18 where he left zarahemla. where is zarahemla
davidericburrows 2 years ago
The Book of Mormon is a History of the peoples of America, so when they say 'this land' it means the land they are on , America, and also the western hemisphere.
12345fraser 2 years ago
but have you ever been to zarahemla
davidericburrows 2 years ago
No, i have never been to Zarahemla but i have also never been to the USA or any other part of the Americas. I have also never seen God but i know He lives.
12345fraser 2 years ago
well there is no archeaological evedence of it ever being, unlikeeverywhere in the bible. i know my God lives because he healed me and i feel him every day.
davidericburrows 2 years ago
@12345fraser You lived with God for more that 250Billion years
baznet 2 months ago
Dr. John L. Sorenson, in his 1985 book An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon, created a model in which he postulated a correlation between certain Book of Mormon locations and the geography in the area centered around the Isthmus of Tehuantepec. Dr. Sorenson assumed a correlation between the ancient ruin of Kaminaljuyu (near Guatemala City) and the city of Nephi, with the surrounding land being the Land of Nephi.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
Palenque was a Nephite city.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
well that just happens to be a mayan city not a nephite city there is only evedence of mayans living there. dont forget if a prophet says at least one thing wrong he is a false prophet.(deuteronomy 18:21-22.
you still havent found me some thing that hasent come true in the bible
davidericburrows 2 years ago
You're abusing the scriptures. You need help! scripture abuse is not wise.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
well you are cutting and pasting from other sites and are taking scripture out of context and are not reading the whole chapter. you still havent found me a prophrcey that hasnt come true in bible
davidericburrows 2 years ago
Such unfulfilled prophecies include Jeremiah's prediction of the ignominious fate of Jehoiakim (Jer. 22:19), which was belied by 2 _Kings 24:6, and Ezekiel's foretelling the destruction of Tyre by Nebuchadnezzar (Ez. 26:7-21), which was later admitted to have failed but was to be compensated by the Babylonian king's attack on Egypt (Ez. 29:17-20)"
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
Jonah
Be careful in how you apply Deut. 18:22, for you threaten to reject some true prophets in the Bible! There are examples where a true prophet prophesied something which did not happen as he stated, to the best of our knowledge. An example is found in the story of Jonah, who was told by God to prophecy to the people of Nineveh. Jonah prophesied that the people would be destroyed in 40 days (Jonah 3:4).
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
no loopholes were offered, just imminent doom. God changed things, however, when the people repented and He chose to spare them—much to the chagrin of that imperfect (yet still divinely called) prophet, Jonah.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
Jonah, in fact, was "displeased ... exceedingly" and "very angry" (Jonah 4:1) about this change from God, perhaps because it made Jonah look bad. In spite of an "incorrect" prophecy and in spite of the obvious shortcomings of Jonah, he was a prophet of God and the Book of Jonah in the Bible is part of the Word of God.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
somewhere in the isthmus of Darien.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
I am going to enjoy this video set.
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
I have his 'prophetic warnings' book, and it is very good.
factsanddata 2 years ago
I didn't realize he was that prolific of a writer.
omiolo 2 years ago
Wow...Fraser, THANK YOU for these videos. I have read a few of Duane S. Crowther's books and the one book mentioned here is sitting collecting dust on my shelf which i bought 15+ years ago...hmmm, it's no coincidence....Amazing...His Tender Mercies.
87kids 2 years ago 2
You must Here this
younkipper 2 years ago
Great info!
germans1 2 years ago