The Final Problem - Part 5 of 6 (Sherlock Holmes)

[x15justice]

Sherlock Holmes dies at the end, alot of people think he doesnt because of the recently made movie. In "the final problem" book it doesnt say anthing about him being alive at the end

[POTCLUVR337]

I cried. A lot. TTT___TTT

[helenlovespaul]

jeremy brett is the only sherlock holmes, was such an amazing actor, RIP Jeremy

[broadwaystar2011]

Overall, a person studying acting(*hem hem* Me...) would say Jeremy Brett is rather an average actor; however, it is truly the subtle things he does that makes him utterly brilliant and possibly one of the best Sherlock Holmes candidate.

[houseandcuddyful]

Aww, poor Watson. I just finished watching the d.v.d. version of it and felt bad for him when he started crying.

[XOnegaiTaichouX]

I friggin' hate that bloody messenger-boy!

That letter from Holmes always makes me sad and when Watson starts crying I feel like the worst!

I am so happy that Doyle decided to resurrect him again that I can not tell!

[aznpimp182]

sherlock died! T_T

[MissNasentier]

where is the "it´s a trap" guy from star wars when you need him???

[harihead2]

God, what gorgeous scenery. It makes me want to go to Switzerland... and not fall in. :)

[TheDawisu]

0:26 "Dankeschön" ^^

[sgauden]

I hope they put elements of The Final Problem in Sherlock Holmes 2, since Professor Moriarty is in it.

[DulBeat]

9:08 - Oh no, Sherlock dropped his action figures!

[JamieHowitt]

According to Moffat, one of the clues for series two of Sherlock is "Reichenbach".

Aw hell no. Steven Moffat, don't you bloody dare.

[antveticaa]

@JamieHowitt Robert Downey Jr said they were doing some filming in Switzerland for the second Sherlock Holmes movie too...

[cha5]

@antveticaa Don't tell me, Guy Ritchie's going to do something like blowing up Reichenbach in a big CGI explosion.

[antveticaa]

@cha5 Er. I can't answer that; I haven't actually seen footage. It was just something RDJ said they were filming in Switzerland...

[atm142]

Oh Moriarty, so self-assured and infinitely confident. You're at least sixty years old, why did your grand plan to defeat Holmes involve a one-on-one fist fight? You're smarter than that...

[sgauden]

@atm142 How do you know that's how old Moriaty is 60 years old? I think he was middle aged.

[naruotno1fangal]

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[TheGoldenTomato]

I THANK Guy Ritchie for redoing Sherlock Holmes. Without that, I, as an 18 year old, wouldn't have been interested. Now I've read the whole works... AND watched the Granada series. People should accept that the Robert Downey Jr version is Hollywood... Just as the Benedict Cumberbatch version is BBC. They're all good in their own ways. Let's not compare them.

[TheFilmWeaver]

@TheGoldenTomato Amen to that! I totally agree. I began to read Sherlock Holmes when I heard that there was a movie coming out, so I wanted to know about it before I saw it. Watched Guy's version, loved it, then began exploring other versions like BBCs and this one. I love Guy Ritchie's because it relates to our current audience but it still sticks to the original idea, but I absolutely adore Jeremy Brett and his portrayal. He lived and breathed Sherlock Holmes.

[GammonAddicted]

@TheGoldenTomato Well, the Hollywood version is Hollywood - not Holmes. I have nothing to say against modernizations - there are lots of good theatrical modernizations of e.g. Shakespeare - the problem is that the Hollywood modernization is far away from the way Holmes was intended to be. Regarded to the presentation I would go so far to say that this series is more about art than entertainment. Jeremy Brett's interpretation is by far the best, most accurate personification I have ever seen.

[wincipoet]

@GammonAddicted The Hollywood version makes me detest Hollywood even more :P

[GammonAddicted]

@wincipoet Well, I agree with you one hundred percent. I don't have much more to say about Hollywood:).

[Logitah]

@TheGoldenTomato Indeed my dear fellow.

[heeroyuy487]

sherlock holmes and proffesor moriarty

[MrSamster911]

it shows his death in 'the league of extraordinary gentlemen" except moriarty jumps at him like a football and holmes just moves and throws him a little farther and moriarty calls him a drug addict as he falls to his doom

[heeroyuy487]

8:39 they both fell

[heeroyuy487]

the great detective and great villain died on the bottom of reichenbach falls

[TNT8900]

i have to do a report on holmes so i picked when he died

[MrSherlockWatson]

Why is almost every episode of this Sherlock Holmes sereies on here, but Granada hasn't taken them off???? Not that I'm complaining....

[Lyrictheac]

RIP Crash dummies.

[WlshMaggot]

i love this Ep and the return of homes, but there are some huge mes en sien mistakes, like - they use a different stick, it also in the wrong place, landscape is different list goes on......I still love it though :)

[idislikesand]

@mozeus5 Watson was married like, 2 times. I have no idea about sherlock though

[mozeus5]

@mozeus5 Ok, thanks for the info.

[Lyrictheac]

@mozeus5 Holmes wasn't gay, he simply didn't have any interest in relationships; he was too obsessed with his work for that. Him and Watson were close friends and nothing more.

[mozeus5]

@Lyrictheac Thanks for your reply. Yes, I suppose he was "Married to his work" as he put it in the new series.

[jazzchristineart]

@Lyrictheac yes..I agree

thankyou

[jazzchristineart]

@Lyrictheac yes..I agree

thank you

[TNT8900]

@Lyrictheac in one story he has a lover 

[Lyrictheac]

@TNT8900 In a way, but not really. He took advantage of her love to get information. It's possible that he may have had some feelings about her, but the books imply otherwise.

[SuperFlouss]

"No way you live, no way."

[Songsmirth]

Moriarty is an old man! Doesn't make sense. . .And the dummies at the last were obvious.

[ranma763]

@Songsmirth A little early for CGI, don't you think?

[DarthLego100]

He doesnt die there is a series called the return of sherlock holmes,

[Songsmirth]

@DarthLego100 Ruin it for other Darth. . . 

[digikate813]

2:12 Well that's got "Trap" written all over it.

[zooeyhall]

Was this actually shot in Switzerland?

[BicPentameter]

@zooeyhall,

Probably was Switz., definitely not UK. France, Italy, Austria, Leichtenstein, Czech Rep also have beautiful mountains, but Switzerland has them topped, for Europe. Could have also been Norway.

[obiwanobiwan13]

"I began to remember Holmes' methods, and to try to practice them."

Since when did Holmes, in a tight situation requiring delicacy and stealth, bellow "WAATTSSOOOOONNN!!!!!!" ;)

[sedecim]

Watson was a little thick there.

[Imverycute2]

I felt SO bad for Watson! Even though I knew Holmes wasn't really dead, I could feel the Doctor's grief over losing his best friend. I wanted to scream at Holmes to come out from wherever he was hiding and let Watson know he was all right -- don't you hear him shouting for you? Can't you see how badly you've hurt him? Even I had to keep muttering to myself "He's not dead, he's not dead, he's not dead....." Good thing I live alone!

[sitithesecond]

Moriarty may be an arch-criminal, but he is a gentleman, not a mere ruffian!

[pearlgirl121]

Nice sepia montage at the falls.

[PiggyofGuinea]

Wow, the last fight i was waiting for Holmes to bust out the Robert Downey Jr Wing Chun moves...to no avail...alas.

[MrHoppers002]

it's weird I thought holmes was a top notch boxer.

[cha5]

@MrHoppers002 Well he was, although remember this scene is Watson's interpretation of the Holmes/Moriarty battle, the battle involved Holmes slipping through Moriarty's grasp dropping to one knee gripping Moriarty's heel and pushing it up and away from himself and also at the same time with his other hand capturing the groin of the captured leg, applying leverage causing Moriarty to lose his balance and fall, basic jujitsu or 'baritsu' (actually bartitsu) at which Holmes "Had some knowledge of".

[MrHoppers002]

I was responding to someone else saying holmes should be shown using wing chun like in the new movie but I liked holmes using boxing like in the novels. I know this is through watson's eyes. Actually in holmes actual fight he easily dispatches moriarty and was being sniped which is how I would expect it to go. :)

[decidererer]

That seemed a fairly obvious ruse for both Holmes and Watson to fall for. Then screaming for Holmes instead of summoning help. Duhhhhh...

[tephygirl23]

Actually I think Moriaty just didn't want to deal with Watson. His feud was with Holmes not watson. The prof. was the kind of person (in my opinion) that wouldn't deal with casualties. It reminds me of the old quote, "this is between you and me." In other words, Watson had nothing to do with their feud so he didn't want to deal with him. Now one might argue that Moriarty wanted to get him out of the way so he could have Holmes to his self. Watson being a retired army doc, would put up a fight.

[kingfuzzy2]

sumtimes too much immorality in movies

[Krizushi]

Darm Mariaty! D:<

[BarnabasFrid]

c'mon... Holmsey could send Mr. Woodley home in a cart yet could not take Moriarty?

[lollipopfop]

@BarnabasFrid nope M is his equal in every way.

[BarnabasFrid]

Ahhhh... okay.  You win... I agree!

[professorsiebelink]

3:22...Watson could've saved Holmes had he known that that man in black was the Professor!!!

[lollipopfop]

@professorsiebelink How could he not guess?

[Johnnycatmeow]

"Whatever you do, you can't miss the Reichenbach falls."

Ha ha, classic irony and foreshadowing.

[cassandra5322]

what a pleasant good bye letter. that slow motion fall was LONG

[JvxSherlock]

i don't quite get it... did Prof. Moriarty give some time to Sherlock so that Sherlock can write a letter before they can actually have a duel??? (Like duhuh) if i was prof. MOriarty i'll directly shot sherlock and throw his body over the falls.

and regarding the fight scene... the acting is not really good... it was some sort of a huddling-till-we-drop-over-the­-falls fight scene.

*sorry about this, but I'm really a hundred pecent Sherlock Holmes Fanatic. =)

[cha5]

Well there are things about

The Final Problem that alot of Sherlockians have been questioning

like why wasn't Moriarty's body ever recovered downstream if he died at the falls? Was Holmes telling Watson the truth about what happened on that day during 1891 and 'The Great Hiatus?'

(the period 1891-1893 when Holmes was supposedly travelling through Europe and Asia and the world believed him to be dead)

[haakon555]

Well, there is a theory that Moriarty never existed, that would explain the letter.

[WishingOne]

@JvxSherlock Yep. Moriarty let him write a little note to Watson before the final showdown. I guess it's just...respect, or something. They are equals in just about every single way, except for the fact that they are on opposite ends of the spectrum. (Detective-Villian thing.)

[lollipopfop]

@WishingOne Detective criminal. Not detective villain. He also got Watson out of there instead of killing him which is very kind

[Raeyven76]

@lollipopfop Doubt it was anything to do with kindness, more the fact that taking on Holmes alone would have been a task but to have Watson to deal with as well? Getting Watson out of the way was just Moriarty's way of making things easier for himself and ensuring no one got in the way of what he planned.

[WishingOne]

@lollipopfop Sorry! xD And thank you for the correction.

[pal2able]

Since they're so close why don't they call each other David and Sherlock.

[bandi138138]

English Gentleman thing

[Johnnycatmeow]

@pal2able You mean JOHN and Sherlock :-) ?

[pal2able]

Yeah, I think i must have mixed him up with a character named David who was based on Watson.

[Banminator]

When this was written, it WAS intended that Holmes was to die.

Knowing that makes reading this scene powerful =(

[scottdavis0801]

I feel what makes this episode so beautiful, is Watson and Holmes last few moments together. And also the loneliness of this scenery with the quiet waterfall. A great backdrop for a final curtain?

[flameandshadow]

That note actually hurt to hear.  Despite knowing what happens later on, it seriously depressed me.

[ArvindanT]

I feel like absolute crap for Watson :(

[Poirottvfan]

So two brilliant minds -- one that solves crime and the other commiting crime -- settle the final score by a showdown via hand-to-hand combat on a dangerous cliff. On the other hand a "final" civilized game of chess would not have made a good story or good TV -- but couldn't we have had some kind final, deciding challenge where Moriarty pulls off THE grand crime and Sherlock either catches him and delivers him to jail or failing to catch Moriarty, Sherlock hands himself over to Moriarty ...

[ZolotayaKoshka]

@ Poirottvfan: If you think a final civilized game of chess would not make a good story, PLEASE watch "The Seventh Seal" by Bergman. Magnificent story! A man plays chess with Death while trying to figure out the meaning of life.If he wins, Death must give him up. (I would have liked to see Holmes in that particular contest, though Block did well too.)You can find it with English subs on YT.And the question "who beats whom?" is not all that easy to solve - just as in the Holmes/Moriartycase here.

[Poirottvfan]

@Zolo, yes thank you for the recommendation. I've known about Bergman's Seventh Seal but never got down to actually watching it -- one of those things. But now with your recommendation, I certainly shall/must. It is a classic, isn't it? Variations of it adopted and adapted by many filmmakers afterwards.

[RedPenguin2]

The major thing I noticed about this is that it's not mentioned at all about the Professors background in Math and the rumors that made him resign at a small university.

[McCoyFan]

Run like the wind, Watson!!!

[southern2716]

If you watch this in High Definition, you can see the cables holding the stunt men as they "fall." Still, the producers had a nice budget to work with to do this kind of outdoor location shoot. In regards to the shots whizzing past Holmes in "The Empty House, " it was Colonel Moran, and in the book he threw rocks at Holmes instead of shooting at him. The gun makes more sense...Why would Moran throw rocks when he had the Von Herder air gun at his disposal?

[yeees123]

This looks more like a parody of Holmes than a serious and real one. LOL

[mrUsenik]

Dude, it's funny as shit!!!!

[yeees123]

agree.. I don't know what the director was thinking... It clearly is not supposed to be that... silly :D

[ShawDAMAN]

"I began to remember Holmes' methods, and to try to practice them:

"HOOOOOLLMMMES!!"

It's not funny but it made me laugh :P

[alguien1234]

It IS funny XDDDDD. But the Holmes' death is sad :(((

[minaina12345]

well he doesn't die. at leaast he came back in the empty house.

[MasterfulD]

@ShawDAMAN I was actually thinking of the same thing. I don't recall Holmes using that particular method before...

[hoppers001]

I'm surprised as to the difficulty of holmes's struggle with moriarty in combat when holmes is the better fighter. I like the depiction in sherlock holmes the 22nd century.

[SammyT100]

Remember, it's only how Watson sees it! We see how it actually happened in 'The Empty House.'

[hoppers001]

I know that, it's how watson imagined the fight, he should've known holmes is a better fighter than that. :)

[RedPenguin2]

Darn rating system, I wanted to give you a thumbs up not down.

[hoppers001]

who cares it's youtube.

[Sherlock910]

A sad but fitting ending for world famous detective Sherlock Holmes

[yeees123]

The Russian version of The Final problem is even sadder... I really like that one with Vasily Livanov as Holmes...

[ericthefrootbat]

7:40 - POOR WATSON! :(

[dragongirl114]

i love to watch this and read the book in order to compare.

[MVeyn]

it really gives you the chills when you read it on the book. glad that doyle didn't end it there, no matter that the later adventures are not the same (common sense, holmes has by that time reached middle age and moriarty is no longer there)

[2000Erich]

Is it me? Or did Watson actually SEE Moriarty going up the hill? And then blew it off? That's just screwed up.

[MVeyn]

in the book he says he just saw a black figure.... it could have been anyone.. well..

[alguien1234]

I think he sees him but doesn't know who is.

[2000Erich]

True, I forget that Holmes told Watson who Moriarty is, but has never seen his appearance. Not as if there was a picture Holmes was showing around to people. You make a very good point.

[talic864]

what a fitting end i must say.

A champion in deduction in a personal contest with his arch rival

[OTimeMasterXO]

I'm sorry but Conan Doyle should have ended Holmes here, where it meant something. The later Holmes novels always feel hollow and unimportant compared to this one.

[sailorearth2007]

FYI he tried to end it here, but the public out cry at the loss of such a great literary figure changed his mind...(I for one am glad it did).

[morgan5154]

the films usually add a few things to the books story

[roseanne74]

This series was extremely close to the way Conan Doyle wrote the stories. Yes a few minor embellishments here and there, but the dialogue is, to all intents and purposes, verbatim.

[morgan5154]

oh yes, Ive read some of the original Conanian books, including The Red Headed League, and these episodes are very close. And Jeremy Brett was the perfect actor for Holmes. I think the character was positively perfectly depicted.

[silentbob8201]

Well of course you know i mean if he didnt he never would of made the Hound of Baskerville one of the most famous Holmes stories. Grant it it's a prequel to this but still.

[alguien1234]

However, I'm glad that Holmes survived. I also would been of those who lobbied Doyle to resurrect him.

Sorry for my bad English.

[WomaninBlack215]

Holmes knew there was no dying woman...He just didn't want Watson to get hurt.

[kaisenji]

He also knew that Watson would have never left him even if ordered so better to let him follow then be tricked to returning to safety than be killed by Moriarty or gangmember. I think that would have wounded Holmes more than anything.

[sailorearth2007]

Dying woman or friend facing death...I would have run after Moriarty. I know it's how the book goes but still.

[kaisenji]

Watson would be no doctor if he did not follow that oath he took when he became one. My guess is even though Sherlock was on alert he kept assuring Watson he had seen no one. So long as Sherlock played "all is well" Watson probably felt comfortable.

[sailorearth2007]

I can understand that...I'm not a doctor and didn't know about the oath...still the feelings he had after finding out it was a trick can be seen all over his face...it would have killed me (figuratively speaking).

[wrght9185]

It is called the Hippocratic Oath. If you are curious, look for it on Wikipedia for the details.

[ithejuggernaut]

You must not forget that Dr.Watson has never seen Prof.Moriarty before.

Also, this did not completely adhere to what the book said. I don't remember having read in the book about a shot whizzing past Holmes while in the pastures. Correct me if I am wrong.

[MisuPekka]

Poor watson, it must be awful to know that he was fooled to leave his best friend's side : (

[sowhatever92]

That looks a little wrong in 8:30