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How did Carl rove give the reps the tea party movement the bush admin gave us no child left behind and expanded Medicare for the elderly I just don't get that comment oh they also gave us tarp or stimulus as it is now called
@michealati2 Thats an interesting view. Was it her saying "I think scars are sexy because they mean that you made a mistake that led to a mess.". I guess that means she would love to see America with even more scars than we already possess?.
John has been an amazing actor for most of his life and because he does'nt follow the same piper you do hes now a kkk member?
If only we could take back the stupid things we write sometimes right? maybe you would not look so ignorant right now.
@rachelabombdotcom Like the others it Sounds like Barry Indeed is losing interest. Even plastic dolls can't deal with diluted tea baggers with minimal education. Try buying your plastic doll a new pair of wing tips to get the spark goin again. Bet you tea baggers didn't know that it was progressive liberals that fought for the right for women to vote. But thats not important now that you have your Barry Indeed blow up doll.
Its funny listening to an uneducated HasBeen mediocre actor trying to sound smart. He impresses tea baggers but bright shiny objects impress tea baggers.
@judedelux Have you ever been to a tea party? I'm going to guess not. FYI before I was anti O I was anti Bush as are many of us. I'll wager the Founding Fathers wouldn't have approved of either of them. Divided we will fall...
@rachelabombdotcom Yes I went to health reform discussion where tea baggers were yelling, screaming and threatening bodily harm to all that were asking questions about the bill resulting in no discussion occurring. The tea baggers had already received their information and direction from the jesters at Fox Newsless like Palin and Beck and AM ahole Rush so a discussion was not needed. Regardless of the consequences you want President Obama to fail.
@judedelux Yeah that sounds more like a town hall than a Tea Party... It was my experience having attended multiple town hall meetings that none of the representatives had even read the bill but the people who showed up to oppose the bill had read the bill or enough of it to see it's going to be a massive takeover of our private sector. Maybe you aren't aware of this but now the Govt. is in control of 51% of the private sector of our economy. That's not the America I know and love.
@judedelux Actually most of the opposition to obamacare took the time necessary to READ THE BILL something even the Dem leadership who brought the bill to the floor FAILED to do. It's the running joke at the white house that obama never read the bill. Do you think if you say "teabagger" enough you'll look smart?
I'm no fan of Faux news or Sarah Palin but I am a tea party supporter. You're assessment is flawed and lacks the necessary logic and critical thinking required.
@rachelabombdotcom Not wasting time debating because all your info iss based on reading all the propaganda pamphlets provided by the insurance industry, special interest groups & the RNC strategy to make America fail so President Obama looks bad. Tea Baggers are just Republicans with less education, money &will vote against America's and their best interest. They eat up the hyperbole and demogogy like free pop corn. Love how tea baggers support socialism for the rich but capitalism for the rest
@rachelabombdotcom LOL. Gee I've never met a tea bagger that doesnt believe in a few conspiracies. The dumber the tea bagger the funnier the conspiracy. Just when we think you can't say anything more ridiculous you post yet another dilly. I'm cutting and pasting most of your responses to add to a web site called 'Is U Smarter than a Tea Bagger'. Like I said, tea baggers are Republicans only they have less money, less to no education and lack intellect. "Delude them with BS" K. Rove 1998
@rachelabombdotcom Sorry Hot Lips but Karl Rove made the Republican Party what it is today and tea baggers are the off spring. As for a drink from your kool-aid barrel: No thanks I drink Scotch on the rocks. Besides you need all the the kool-aid cooked for incoming recruits. I hear the next tea baggers meeting is going to be called 'Night of the Walking Dead Heads". Or was it "Droids Need Freedom Too"
@rachelabombdotcom Bitch who the Fk is Barry? Is that another conspiracy Karl Rove cooked up for you tea bagger morons? I guess youre no longer interested in who stole King Tut’s penis.The reason you find the tax situation so humorous is because you have no idea , concept or notion of the consequences. Its just a stupid political game right Ms. Airhead? But that’s what tea baggers are all about ‘ Make America fail so that Obama looks bad’. Run Rachel run
Barak's Health Care Attempt.... Do you support this administration's bill?? Go to my utube channel and Know exactly why Americans points of view counts !!
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. "The United States of America Declaration of Independence. July 4. 1776."
This government controlled healthcare is a farce. Leave it up to the individuals instead. Small businesses cannot afford this even if they do get a $4,000 a year tax credit. If you have a dozen employees working for you, you're out $10,000 a year, which will force higher inflation and(or) more layoffs. People had better get their heads out of theeir asses and take action before this country turns into a Socialistic nation.
There was more like 40 thousand people present. Not just "thousands". TENS of thousands called out of work, and came from all over america on 4 DAYS NOTICE.
I salute every single one of you who joined me there on that day. And I hope to see you in August.
@245ti Thank you for the # count. I wasn't there this time. I meant no disrespect to say "thousands" Many thanks for getting there and stopping by the video. I went in Sept and it was so worth the sacrifice my Husband and I made to get there. See you in August!
I don't doubt that. I found it heartbreaking that the people at freedomworks who claim to have "organized" the March on DC can't even get it right. He appeared on CSPAN and stated "thousands" showed up. I was there and it was well over 1 million. As a Tea Party organizer I am so sick of people hijacking the Tea Party for their own ends and then throwing them under the bus. Thanks for your comment MsSpeakthetruth much appreciated. Peace
Thanks MsSpeakthetruth we all need to get involved and work to our best abilities to hold the line on this rogue Gov take over. There are so many people doing all they can with their time and talents. Even calling your Reps office once a week can make a world of difference. Americans forgot who they were for a bit we need to get back there quick!
"United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change"
Obama will sign it and it is TREASON. This will set up a WORLD TAX on global warming. Another TAX w/o representation. We will have NO SAY in the matter!
We DO have an ACE in the hole to stop this!
Please consider the following> As most have heard, there is a controversy over Obama being eligible to serve as POTUS.
An intelligent & WISE voter will investigate this:
Factcheck etc have posted a FRAUDULENT COLB. The Hawaii EMBOSS SEAL IS a FORGERY.
the obamafile[]com/_images/COLBOfficialVsObama[]bmp.
Criminal fraud has taken place to fool the US citizens. Obama has also posted photo shopped photos of his past.
GOOGLE "Obama and grandparents at the park" A photo should appear. enlarge and look at Obama's left hand! He has his Wedding Ring on 9 yrs too early. This photo is a fake as is many other photos.
Bigtex, it's something how the elderly are dropping out of AARP because of they know how AARP has betrayed their trust.
The AARP is LINING THEIR POCKETS with Seniors' money, and they are in with the Democrats to cut Medicare so that when the Seniors have to get this Medigap coverage (conveniently sold by AARP) AARP will make out like a bandit- after all they DO make most of their money off this Medigap supplemental insurance, which Seniors will be forced into when Medicare fails them.
They say it is dead on arrival when it hits the Senate; but Pelosi and Obama won't give up.
They will continue to bribe and threaten.
There is also the issue of Cap and Trade.
YT video "Is Obama poised to cede sovereignty of the USA'
ther is a meeting in Copenhagen in Dec. For Obama to sign the treaty is TREASON agsinst the USA. The democrats and republicans don't seem bothered by it.
You're right. We can't assume that the Senate, dominated by Democrats, isn't going to push through this awful bill. They tried to push through amnesty that time, save for the voices of the American People. We stopped them then & we can stop them now.
But we can't be silent.
They have severely overreached and if they get their Obama/Pelosi care, it will severly & negatively affect our health & well being.
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Thanks for the support. I got to the Capitol early in the morning and got over 100 people to buy a flag in the front of the crowd. It was a lot of fun, and hope we scared a few politicians and media people.
@usrevolution2 That's great! I couldn't make it this time but I'm glad you were able to. As usual estimates were low on the numbers I heard everything from 3,000 to 10,000. It's my understanding 5,000 came just from Ohio.
I just wanted to say thank you, Chrysie, for citing specific parts of this bill that are clearly horrible for the American people. Some of us - including me - get so emotional about it we don't stop to bring our proof to the table. I only wish I could post my senator's letter on here, but it was two pages long. He's against this version of the bill & has an excellent solution. I'll head over to WND - thanks for the tip!!!
Insurance giants like United, Aetna, WellPoint, & Cigna will be the biggest winners in reform legislation that will REQUIRE every American to carry insurance.
Millions of people who now have NO coverage will be ***MANDATED*** to buy policies from these very companies.....
And that, of course, means BILLIONS IN NEW PROFITS.
Meanwhile.. should the "Public Option" pass..
AARP stands to make MILLIONS MORE in "royalties" from UNITED!
AMA's priority throughout the healthcare debate has been to "FIX" the Medicare payment formula that threatens to chop Medicare reimbursement of doctors by 21% this year & more later on.
NOW.... with the current $245 BILLION "DOC FIX" legislation "coupled" with H.R. 3962, doctors will see,
their "payment schedules" INCREASE!
And with the Democrat's MANDATES...
the "number of patients" will INCREASE.. bringing in MORE BUSINESS to their practices!
Why do people continue to reach for a cardboard sign when protest signs have yet to stop any insistent tyrant from doing what he wishes to do? Protesting has not stopped the Iraq War and it has caused the real perpetrators of 9/11 to admit to their crimes.
It's all we have right now and I think it's important to express our views any way we can. I feel your frustration and I do wish like you that there was another way. Maybe soon someone will step up to the plate. Peace
Sec. 59b (pp. 297-299) says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars. Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement.
Sec. 1114 (pp. 391-393) replaces physicians with physician assistants in overseeing care for hospice patients.
just how BAD is this bill? Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a "qualified plan" covers and how much you'll be legally required to pay for it. ....................................................................................That's like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later.
Is it time for revolution or civil war yet? I will not let them know what health care I buy, I will not buy theirs, they have no authority over me. As much as liberals love this Marxist crap, it's unconstitutional. When they come for me, to enforce their unconstitutional laws, I will defend myself and my family at any cost. When the criminals run the gov, I will do anything it will take and I am not afraid of the consequences. What would Washington do?
problem is nobody cares about a word you may say. we are not your audience, you're just forcing yourself on others. that is very impolite. you only inspire me to go back to dc and stand up for the constitution and your freedom.
you're a loser, a boor, a parasite and a pathetic little person.
go back home. your mother sill loves you even though you threw her under the healthcare bus.
why are we allowing these pupets taking the country to the far far far left. WHY?
Socialism, Marxism doesn't work. Our founding fathers are rolling over in theire graves, along with the many men and women who have defended this country against the same type of people.
I am saddened by the shear lack of knowledge of history by so many.
@newdebate haha thanks D! you should have seen his face when I asked him the question on CSPAN's American Journal. After I asked if he thought Obarry could get elected in 2012 without ACORN since they are under indictment and funding has been cut. That was his answer. lol They hung up on me pretty quick or I would have asked him if he had the audacity to ask for the birth certificate before he ran the campaign.
His book
"The Audacity to Win" lol quite an original title...brilliant! lol
Obama (Soetoro) was the ACORN lawyer, so yes his guilt is by association in this case. If he were honest, we would have disclosure of his true history rather than stonewalling.
Funny thing, the racist NAACP allowed Soetoro (Obama) membership on a waiver of the minimum black blood fraction.
The Barry Soetoro cult is over. That was proven in New Jersey.
Obarry's campaign manager says ACORN had nothing to do with getting Obarry elected. That must hurt the little nuts that worked so hard to get Mickey mouse registered thirty times to vote for him...
Loakum, would you like more koolaid? ACORN/SEIU will refresh your drink. The Barry Soetoro cult is old news. He's rotting in office, ask the Oval Office flies, lol!
Did it get passed? Answer: YES. lol, will it pass the Senate? Answer..more then likely YES. The voters that voted the Dems to hold the majority in the House and senate, are very pleased that the bill passed, with a public option. :-)
Page 94 - Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private individual health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government.
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this bill is ABOUT CONTROL not insuring the uninsured.
You don't have to destroyed the whole health insurance industry to insure those who don't have insurance.
I thought it was appropriate that Pelosi was wearing red while giving her victory speech. Victory for them - not the American people. My congressman has a brilliant plan & voted no so rest assured there is a much better solution than this. My fellow Americans, we still have time to get health care reform that helps us instead of hurts us. Contact your senator - plead your case. Now is the time to PEACEFULLY, LEGALLY be heard and I for one will not "go quietly into the good night".
Who will be the first person fined or imprisoned for failure to comply?
How many companies are going to move their operations offshore to avoid this mess? How many small businesses will simply reduce their work force to pay their portion of this bill? California recently paid workers in IOU's. Will doctors take IOU's? Oh, I forgot, no such thing as real debt or real money, we just pretend and keep digging a deeper debt hole.
Not one of the "Congressmen" that voted yes for this bill will actually have the pleasure of participating in this legislation. No, not one.
They have "special" health care. They have exempted themselves from their own legislation. What a proud day in Amerika.
Next will come the lawyers and the lawsuits interpreting what the bill says and doesn't say. Activist judges will of course tell all us simple folk out here what it really says. In the meantime, this country collapses under mismanagement.
I don't like the Constitution? Oh heavens..when did I utter such a thing? I'm supporting a democratically elected President, and support a bill that was passed by a branch of government. I was under the impression, that I was following the Constitution. Perhaps U're the one that should consider "that door". lol
I am considering using the door as are many small business and people who have the foresight to see what is coming. You're vote for the President doesn't count, the electoral college decides the Presidency not your votes. You see the little people can't be counted on to vote smart enough so they took that away years ago.
Electoral college vote, is apart of the democratic process of electing a US President, which supports my previous statement. Besides, all politics is local, so we "little people" votes do still count for something. :-)
Now rachelabomdotcom, that was completely uncalled for. Why did U feel the need to bring race into the discussion? Did they bring up race when all the other 43 Presidents were all non minority, voted in by mostly non minorities? Answer: NO. For your information Obama was voted in based on his message of CHANGE, that earned him votes from black, white, chinese, latino,ect. I guess the reason why YOU brought up race, because when YOU see people like me..or PRESIDENT Obama, that's ALL YOU SEE!
93% voted for the magical mystery man... and voting for change is a ridiculous concept. He has broken just about every promise he made besides the one about transforming America. I liked it the way it was. The guy doesn't even know how many states are in the union.
"I can see Russia from my house" - Palin. ROTFLMAO!
Hmmm..I guess I must have voted for Alan Keys, Michael Steele...because according to you, we African Americans only vote on skins color, instead of policies that will directly effect our country. See what I did there? Answer: Pointed out the ridiculous-ness in that incredibly flawed argument.
@Loakum, opinions changed quickly among Independent voters. Barry Soetoro is widely known to be not eligible for POTUS. Why does he continue to hide all of his records? Perhaps he has a guilty mind.
Presidential Approval Index: -10
Strongly Approve: 30%
Strongly Disapprove: 40%
Rasmussen Reports survey of likely voters, 11/08/09.
Didn't Regan go through a much simular highs and lows, in his first year? Answer: YES. Approval ratings for a sitting President only matters in year 4, when they are seeking a second term. Obama's approval rating is still over mid 50 percent. (Gallup). Obama is bassically a shoe-in, to win re-election. And I will do everything, in my power to ensure that he will get re-elected. :-)
I called into CSPAN on thursday and spoke with Obarry's campaign manager mr Plouffe...
I asked him if he thought Obarry had a chance in 2012 without ACORN since they are going down in flames with indictments and investigations, and all the funding being cut. He claimed ACORN had nothing to do with Obarry getting elected! That's the kind of people who are going to be in between you and your DR...
cap and trade would pay money from YOUR pockets, (via taxes passed down from corporations)to the world bank.
the world bank which is controlled by and owned by the same evil bastards that own the federal reserve-rothschilds, warburgs, rockefellers. . .the feds' policy of "fractional reserve banking" is fraud, and designed from implementation to crash OUR financial institutions into one world bank. the root of all EVIL is the FEDERAL RESERVE whose interests are implemented by
the workings of the federal reserve and their corporate counterparts are being illuminated, the latest being al gore(the carbon whore)/general electric/NBC/world bank.
NBC gives carbon whore 75 free minutes to broadcast his propaganda.
GE stands to sell one trillion of wind turbines when cap and trade bill is passed
"al gore is sued by 30,000 scientists for fraud" (see on youtube)
"Shocking Hypocrisy Audio Found Obama didn't like it when Bush Rushed Through Legislation"
radio interview with Randi Rhodes in 2004. like page 425 of the obamacare bill that says a government stooge will decide what medical treatment my 88 year old Mom can get.
OBAMA WANTS TO KILL OUR MOMMAS
(sung to Frank Zappa and the Mothers' of Invention -"My Guitar Wants to Kill your Momma")
the sold out cretins forced members of congress to vote on cap and trade without even seeing the actual bill being voted on. the official copy voted on did not include 300 pages of amendments. health care fraud is no different.
PROSTITICIANS ARE STEAMROLLING THIS BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP DAILY TO SEE THE GOVERNMENTAL CORRUPTION, LIES AND THEFT
oh ... and Phillip ... about your wealth. Did you make your money without worrying about cap and trade? Did you have to worry how to put food on the table, pay for your own health care and be forced to pay for your employee's health care? Or did you become wealthy BECAUSE of democracy? Mmm hmmm. I THOUGHT so. Don't YOUR children and grandchildren deserve the same opportunities in life you had?
"I believe the Council of Foreign Relations and its ancillary elitist groups are indifferent to communism. The have no ideological anchors. In their pursuit of a new world order they are prepared to deal without prejudice with the communist state, a socialist state, a democratic state, monarchy, oligarchy -- it's all the same to them."
If you want to know what really is going on, watch Glenn Beck. You can't argue with the facts he has gotten ahold of, and others sending him info.
You have to ask your self, if this healthcare is suppose to cover those who don't have, then why is it going to leave out 34milllion and won't start until 2012?
This is all about control, they want to control everything you do, and to spread the wealth.
This must be stopped everywhere and people need to let the voices be heard
What you folks don't take into account is our governments past record. The right to keep and bear arms does not really mean that? The right to pursue happiness qualifies as abortion rights. Lawyers will turn this thing into just one more governmental nightmare and you are naive to think otherwise. It's not that we don't want health care, we just do not believe one word these politicians say.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 2962 times, shame on me.
Page 297 - Section 501 imposes a 2.5 percent tax on all individuals who do not purchase "bureaucrat-approved" health insurance - the tax would apply on individuals with incomes under $250,000, thus breaking a central promise of then-Senator Obama's presidential campaign.
That "Bureacrat Approved" insurance you are talking about is YOUR insurance company. YOUR insurance company will no longer be able to deny care because of a pre-existing condition, or cap what they pay once you get sick. ALL PHI companies will have to adhere to these rules, (which they should have done on their own!) Yes, what is different between you and me is that 2.0% is nothing compared to what we are paying now for the un-insured!! Wake up man!
Page 111 - Section 223 establishes a new board of federal bureaucrats (the "Health Benefits Advisory Committee") to dictate the health plans that all individuals must purchase.
Page 211 - Section 321 establishes a new government-run health plan that, according to non-partisan actuaries at the Lewin Group, would cause as many as 114 million Americans to lose their existing coverage.
OMG, are you kidding? In 2013 if you are still happy with your private health insurance company, the government will NOT force you to do anything. I have read both HR 3200 and HR 3962 and NO where in both of those bills does it state you have to chose out of the exchange or the public option. Quit lying, that is why your party consists of 21% of the voting public! Most people WANT to gut the fuck out of the PHI industry. They have been killing people for way too long!
then why, if it is "voluntary" does section 7203 specify a misdemeanor willful failure to pay being punishabele by a fine of up to $25,000 and imprisonment up to one year? or section which is a felony-fine up to $250,000 and jail for up to five years?
2000pages-400,00words-2million per word- last week, of our" government announced stimulus success-600,000 jobs created for a cost of 323,000 per job-what a bargain! the "pass this or unemployment will go above 8%". . . . with "it" we are a 10%-but, don't hold them accountable. . . .
(bush did it. . . )
one firm in georgia says shamulus created 90 jobs-they have 45 employees. . . .a woman sold nine pairs of boots-gov't say 9 jobs were saved. . . .
People need to stop & contemplate the sheer outrageousness of a foreign country making campaign contributions in our elections. American elections are for American citizens! Period.
"our" government announced success of the stimulus bill this week-600,000 jobs created, at a cost of only 323,000 per job-what a bargain! and unemployment rises to above 10%. these "jobs" created , if full time may pay a max of 40K/year-so, where did the difference go? to the JUNKIE-"government".
government is not the answer, government is cancer.
nancy lugosis' bill?2000pages-400,000words-2million per word
JEWS- CATHOLIC JESUITS.VACCINE IS DESIGNED TO KILL US, AND SEPETATE US, QUARANTINE.SHIT IS GONNA GET REAL SERIOUS THIS MONTH. NEW WORLD ORDER, MEDIA, JEW ZIONIST, RFID CHIP, MARSHAL LAW, THE ILLUMINATI AND THEIR SATANIC CULT control by the devil ROTHSCHILD
Mag all this liberal phillip sees is "free healthcare" and thats all he wants. Most of these types can't or will not see this plan will just bancrupt us. He is really lying about the va as I'm from a millitary family and no one loves it. He is probably one of those people you hear about that are being paid to lie for Obamabummer!
So you are from a military family eh? What do you think VA health care is? GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE. Ask your dad about it. The VA's Office of Public Health is a public government run institution. And vets by and large love it. Hypocrite.
Bowlshit. You know who vets gave the most money to in 2008? Ron Paul. Not your typical REpublican. You know who led the charge to fix Walter Reade hospital while Bush was clearing brush down in Texas? Democrat (and veteran) Congressman Murtha.
Cheeny was a draft dodger, btw. 5 deferments. Suck it.
Since I am the corporation and believe in limited government, no brain washing necessary. It is the right way to think, rather than to suck at the tit of the government, while producing nothing but waste. Sounds like yourself doesn't it??
I can think of 3 TRILLION reasons why the invasion of Iraq was an illegal, immoral, and needless war! I don't hear anyone bitching about that! Where were the tea parties then? (All estimates show that by the time that cluster fuck is over, the cost will exceed 3 TRILLION. That includes all VA costs for all the veterens!)
I'll throw you a bone - the overspending started long before Obama. But it sounds to me, Phillip, like you want this bill for revenge over a war you disagree with. Since you brought it up, though, veterans fought for the Constitution & Bill of Rights. Obama Care is completely unconstitutional as my body is MY property to do with as I choose .... not gov't property to do with as they see fit.
Yes, the spending did start before President Obama! And yes, the Iraq war's ghosts have yet to come back to haunt us. I just can't believe the hypocracy of the Republicans. Their party would be so much better off if they had started their little tea parties under the last administration. There is NOTHING "unconditional" about this reform bill. Many constitutional lawyers have reviewed the bill.
Choices? This reform bill is all about CHOICES! Read it!
I have read it unlike you. It funds abortions forces people into lower coverages with higher costs. Tell me why are you intent on being a dmocrat clown? Tell me with real world debt being 53 trillion that you insist on bancrupting the country?
I have read HR 3200 and HR 3962. Completely! The bills adhere to the Hyde amendment.
Why are the REPUBLICANS intent on bankrupting the country? No problem spending trillions on wars, but 1.2 Trillion in 10 years to help your fellow Americans? Oh fuck, we can't do that!
I would love for you to admit how much money are the democrats paying you? Tell me the trillions Obama has already spent that has raised unemployement. Tell me why you can't comprehend basic math that if you spend more than you take in that you go under?
Are you serious? Do you think that the Democrat party is paying me to blog on this site? Good God Almighty, everything is a big conspiracy . No, I am just your basic Liberal who cares about people less fortunate than me!
The bill does not cover abortion. A few democrats wanted it to, but that ammendment was cut out today by other democrats who wanted the bill to pass. The bill passed the house, btw, so you lose. And the whole point of the health care bill is that it will end up SAVING money over the long term, not "bankrupt" America.
Like I said you're uninformed and uneducated about the bill. Read it then you might know something other than being a begger on Obama's tit crying for him to drop his drawers so you can get the real candy cane that you want.
I have read the real bill. What you have read are cut and pasted bits on early versions of the bill on right wing blogs. Don't believe everything you read on blogs.
I DID read it. It takes away MY freedom to decide what to do with MY body which is MY private property - not the gov'ts. The gov't will tell docs the path they should follow - again unconstitutional as it's clearly allowing the govt to interfere with my private proerty - my body. It also will allow abortions which breeches religious freedom. And this is your idea of being reasonable? I throw you a bone & you go off on me? Tea parties serve a purpose - they give the people a voice.
That is a lie. The government will NOT be telling you what to do with your body. The only people who intervene with what you or your family can do with a body are Republicans. Remember Terry Shaivo? Now THAT is the government intruding on a personal health matter.
He wants to tax the top 1 percent of Americans. Is that you? Are you making over a million a year? Obama promised he will not raise taxes on any family making $250K a year. He has kept that promise and will keep it. He is raising taxes on the rich because we need to get money back into the system that Bsh took out. Our roads are crumbling and we need to start re-investing in America. No one wants to "force me to work out." What the fuck are you talking about?
You are so uninformed and lacking that it is really funny. You keep hearing "free" and thats it. He will raise taxes on everything. Ever hear of cap and trade? Ever hear of the extra tax on gas he wants? I bet not, you can't hear it when you're still chanting and singing his songs.
I never said "free." It will cost all of us. But Obama will NOT be taxing those making 250K or less. But it will cost us all LESS than it does now. The system is broken. Democrats have the balls and the smarts to fix the system. All Republicans have is scare tactics and wanting to keep the status quo because the insurance companies are making a killing off the middle class (and lining the pockets of GOP Congressmen who are playing you like a fool).
Do you really think? Can all you do is repeat Obama lies? Is his candy cane already in your mouth? You are too stupid to even debate, so piss off. You liberals are such a joke, no facts all on your knees begging for handouts, no understanding of hard work.
Here is some truth for you. Individuals in the Army, Navy and Air Force made those branches of the armed services among the top contributors in the 4th Quarter, of 2007--ranking No. 13, No. 18 and No. 21, respectively. In 2007, anti war candidate Ron Paul, who opposes U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, was the top recipient of money from donors in the military, collecting at least $212,000 from them. Barack Obama, another war opponent, was second with about $94,000.
Here are some facts for you Obama took a 1.5 million dollar donation from the Chinese goverment. 230 million dollar donation from unions. Why did China donate to Obama? They knew he would raise our debt with them and weaken our military. Tell me why Obama broke more donation laws than any has in the history of our country?
oh wow! 1.5 million!!! That's, like, so much money. And so what if he took money from unions. They represent the working men of America and he has to take money to compete on the airwaves against McCain (who is rich).
They don't represent the working man as 75 % of the workforce isn't union. They donated to the man that would give them the most payback. Tell me are you really a teen or preteen since you don't seam to know anything about the real world?
I know a lot more than you do "truth." And I'm 35, btw, so suck it. And the only reason more of the workforce isn't in unions is because Republicans have systematically worked with big business to try and stifle workers rights over the past 30 + years. Why are you on the side of people who don't care about the middle class and hard working blue collar Americans who simply want a seat at the table? Or do you think they should just be screwed over and not given health insurance or raises?
Funny you mention unions, Jensen. Because ObamaCare will HURT union workers who traded in raises for a better private health insurance plan. They lost their raises & now ObamaCare may wipe out the very insurance they passed on the raise for. THAT'S your wonderful Obama - the same one who gave shout outs to his peeps b4 expressing condolences to those at Ft Hood. People survived worse times than this w/o the mighty Obama solving their problems with band aids. Trust in GOD - not government.
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usrevolution2 2 months ago
How did Carl rove give the reps the tea party movement the bush admin gave us no child left behind and expanded Medicare for the elderly I just don't get that comment oh they also gave us tarp or stimulus as it is now called
session9100 3 months ago
@michealati2 Thats an interesting view. Was it her saying "I think scars are sexy because they mean that you made a mistake that led to a mess.". I guess that means she would love to see America with even more scars than we already possess?.
John has been an amazing actor for most of his life and because he does'nt follow the same piper you do hes now a kkk member?
If only we could take back the stupid things we write sometimes right? maybe you would not look so ignorant right now.
Shargrailar 11 months ago
@michealati2 Why do you hate America?
rachelabombdotcom 11 months ago
@rachelabombdotcom America es un continente... lo sabias?
ideasdelpacifico 6 months ago
@judedelux Hey everyone step right up and watch a liberal self destruct! lol
No not barry he does that behind closed doors it's judesux!
Telling me to run along on my own video that's rich!
You libs have no respect for private property eh?
I think it's you who will be running along
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
@rachelabombdotcom Like the others it Sounds like Barry Indeed is losing interest. Even plastic dolls can't deal with diluted tea baggers with minimal education. Try buying your plastic doll a new pair of wing tips to get the spark goin again. Bet you tea baggers didn't know that it was progressive liberals that fought for the right for women to vote. But thats not important now that you have your Barry Indeed blow up doll.
judedelux 1 year ago
Voight= Knob
schniffu 1 year ago
@schniffu Voight is a great actor and a great guy. It's easy to criticize when you're an idiot, and ignorant. Jon would look at you and smile.
urrybr 1 year ago
@urrybr :)
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
Its funny listening to an uneducated HasBeen mediocre actor trying to sound smart. He impresses tea baggers but bright shiny objects impress tea baggers.
judedelux 1 year ago
@judedelux Have you ever been to a tea party? I'm going to guess not. FYI before I was anti O I was anti Bush as are many of us. I'll wager the Founding Fathers wouldn't have approved of either of them. Divided we will fall...
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
@rachelabombdotcom Yes I went to health reform discussion where tea baggers were yelling, screaming and threatening bodily harm to all that were asking questions about the bill resulting in no discussion occurring. The tea baggers had already received their information and direction from the jesters at Fox Newsless like Palin and Beck and AM ahole Rush so a discussion was not needed. Regardless of the consequences you want President Obama to fail.
judedelux 1 year ago
@judedelux Yeah that sounds more like a town hall than a Tea Party... It was my experience having attended multiple town hall meetings that none of the representatives had even read the bill but the people who showed up to oppose the bill had read the bill or enough of it to see it's going to be a massive takeover of our private sector. Maybe you aren't aware of this but now the Govt. is in control of 51% of the private sector of our economy. That's not the America I know and love.
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago 2
@judedelux Actually most of the opposition to obamacare took the time necessary to READ THE BILL something even the Dem leadership who brought the bill to the floor FAILED to do. It's the running joke at the white house that obama never read the bill. Do you think if you say "teabagger" enough you'll look smart?
I'm no fan of Faux news or Sarah Palin but I am a tea party supporter. You're assessment is flawed and lacks the necessary logic and critical thinking required.
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
@rachelabombdotcom Not wasting time debating because all your info iss based on reading all the propaganda pamphlets provided by the insurance industry, special interest groups & the RNC strategy to make America fail so President Obama looks bad. Tea Baggers are just Republicans with less education, money &will vote against America's and their best interest. They eat up the hyperbole and demogogy like free pop corn. Love how tea baggers support socialism for the rich but capitalism for the rest
judedelux 1 year ago
@judedelux lol I have to laugh at that one. Class warfare is just as transparent as the race baiting you dems resort to when you can't debate.
Barry Soetoro doesn't need any help looking bad...
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
@rachelabombdotcom LOL. Gee I've never met a tea bagger that doesnt believe in a few conspiracies. The dumber the tea bagger the funnier the conspiracy. Just when we think you can't say anything more ridiculous you post yet another dilly. I'm cutting and pasting most of your responses to add to a web site called 'Is U Smarter than a Tea Bagger'. Like I said, tea baggers are Republicans only they have less money, less to no education and lack intellect. "Delude them with BS" K. Rove 1998
judedelux 1 year ago
@judedelux Not a fan of Rove either but I see you're well up on it so I'll leave the party politics to you. Do You need a refill on the kool aid?
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
@rachelabombdotcom Sorry Hot Lips but Karl Rove made the Republican Party what it is today and tea baggers are the off spring. As for a drink from your kool-aid barrel: No thanks I drink Scotch on the rocks. Besides you need all the the kool-aid cooked for incoming recruits. I hear the next tea baggers meeting is going to be called 'Night of the Walking Dead Heads". Or was it "Droids Need Freedom Too"
judedelux 1 year ago
@judedelux How do you like the way barry folded on the Taxes? lolz what a joke...
While we're quoting...
"I've now been to fifty...seven states? Two more to go!"
Barry Soetoro campaign 2008
lolz
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
@rachelabombdotcom Bitch who the Fk is Barry? Is that another conspiracy Karl Rove cooked up for you tea bagger morons? I guess youre no longer interested in who stole King Tut’s penis.The reason you find the tax situation so humorous is because you have no idea , concept or notion of the consequences. Its just a stupid political game right Ms. Airhead? But that’s what tea baggers are all about ‘ Make America fail so that Obama looks bad’. Run Rachel run
judedelux 1 year ago
@judedelux who the fuck is barry indeed...
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
Barak's Health Care Attempt.... Do you support this administration's bill?? Go to my utube channel and Know exactly why Americans points of view counts !!
Yelena335 1 year ago
actor jon voight last act
phillyjayee 1 year ago
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. "The United States of America Declaration of Independence. July 4. 1776."
fleetfoot27 1 year ago
This government controlled healthcare is a farce. Leave it up to the individuals instead. Small businesses cannot afford this even if they do get a $4,000 a year tax credit. If you have a dozen employees working for you, you're out $10,000 a year, which will force higher inflation and(or) more layoffs. People had better get their heads out of theeir asses and take action before this country turns into a Socialistic nation.
NYCman530 1 year ago
Thank-you, Rachel and thank-you, Mr. Voight for your courage and your concern for this grat nation!
Dan
Lionheart5294 1 year ago
You're welcome Lionheart John Voight is a great guy glad he added his big voice to this cause, for what it's worth...
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
Barack Obama is the last and worst evil tyrant this world will ever see.....the death!
Martial law will be declared in 2010, holocaust will proceed.
SuperboyXX0018 1 year ago
Great Video...! Thanks for posting!
StopTheCorruption1 2 years ago 2
you're welcome thanks for the comment dear.
rachelabombdotcom 1 year ago
There was more like 40 thousand people present. Not just "thousands". TENS of thousands called out of work, and came from all over america on 4 DAYS NOTICE.
I salute every single one of you who joined me there on that day. And I hope to see you in August.
245ti 2 years ago 7
@245ti Thank you for the # count. I wasn't there this time. I meant no disrespect to say "thousands" Many thanks for getting there and stopping by the video. I went in Sept and it was so worth the sacrifice my Husband and I made to get there. See you in August!
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Actually, you're wrong...there were OVER a MILLION people that showed up that day.
MsSpeakthetruth 2 years ago
I don't doubt that. I found it heartbreaking that the people at freedomworks who claim to have "organized" the March on DC can't even get it right. He appeared on CSPAN and stated "thousands" showed up. I was there and it was well over 1 million. As a Tea Party organizer I am so sick of people hijacking the Tea Party for their own ends and then throwing them under the bus. Thanks for your comment MsSpeakthetruth much appreciated. Peace
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Rachel, I agree with you. God bless you for putting in the time and work to organize.
MsSpeakthetruth 2 years ago
Thanks MsSpeakthetruth we all need to get involved and work to our best abilities to hold the line on this rogue Gov take over. There are so many people doing all they can with their time and talents. Even calling your Reps office once a week can make a world of difference. Americans forgot who they were for a bit we need to get back there quick!
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
We killed Pelosi's now there is Harry Reid"s. Where is everybody?
time to kill it for Harry Reid too!
Demoncrats are bribing the hell out of the hold outs- getting them INCENTIVES to vote for it
sendcongressapinkslip[]com
2009WarriorLass 2 years ago
to get the fake photo up now one must type "Obama and grandparents in the park picture"
google : 'the three stooges go to Washington part 6" to learn more about some other photo shopped Obama pics of his past.
chrysiescat 2 years ago
@chrysiescat Thanks Chrysiescat, There's no end to the things about Obarry that don't smell right. A picture's worth 1,000 words! ;)
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Is Obama ready to cede US Sovereignty?
YT video
Dec. in Copenhagen, a treaty will be signed.
"United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change"
Obama will sign it and it is TREASON. This will set up a WORLD TAX on global warming. Another TAX w/o representation. We will have NO SAY in the matter!
We DO have an ACE in the hole to stop this!
Please consider the following> As most have heard, there is a controversy over Obama being eligible to serve as POTUS.
chrysiescat 2 years ago
An intelligent & WISE voter will investigate this:
Factcheck etc have posted a FRAUDULENT COLB. The Hawaii EMBOSS SEAL IS a FORGERY.
the obamafile[]com/_images/COLBOfficialVsObama[]bmp.
Criminal fraud has taken place to fool the US citizens. Obama has also posted photo shopped photos of his past.
GOOGLE "Obama and grandparents at the park" A photo should appear. enlarge and look at Obama's left hand! He has his Wedding Ring on 9 yrs too early. This photo is a fake as is many other photos.
chrysiescat 2 years ago
john voight for president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kill the bill and send pelosi,reid and obamnuts straight to hell!!!!!
rocketman6464 2 years ago
Bigtex, it's something how the elderly are dropping out of AARP because of they know how AARP has betrayed their trust.
The AARP is LINING THEIR POCKETS with Seniors' money, and they are in with the Democrats to cut Medicare so that when the Seniors have to get this Medigap coverage (conveniently sold by AARP) AARP will make out like a bandit- after all they DO make most of their money off this Medigap supplemental insurance, which Seniors will be forced into when Medicare fails them.
Gerts4th 2 years ago 5
we need to keep pressing against Obamacare.
They say it is dead on arrival when it hits the Senate; but Pelosi and Obama won't give up.
They will continue to bribe and threaten.
There is also the issue of Cap and Trade.
YT video "Is Obama poised to cede sovereignty of the USA'
ther is a meeting in Copenhagen in Dec. For Obama to sign the treaty is TREASON agsinst the USA. The democrats and republicans don't seem bothered by it.
This Health Care Bill is also unconstitutional!
chrysiescat 2 years ago 2
You're right. We can't assume that the Senate, dominated by Democrats, isn't going to push through this awful bill. They tried to push through amnesty that time, save for the voices of the American People. We stopped them then & we can stop them now.
But we can't be silent.
They have severely overreached and if they get their Obama/Pelosi care, it will severly & negatively affect our health & well being.
Gerts4th 2 years ago
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usrevolution2 2 years ago
@usrevolution2
Thanks so much for posting this here! Someone marked you as spam but I fixed it. :) Great flag great cause. God Bless and viva the Revolution!
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Thanks for the support. I got to the Capitol early in the morning and got over 100 people to buy a flag in the front of the crowd. It was a lot of fun, and hope we scared a few politicians and media people.
usrevolution2 2 years ago
@usrevolution2 That's great! I couldn't make it this time but I'm glad you were able to. As usual estimates were low on the numbers I heard everything from 3,000 to 10,000. It's my understanding 5,000 came just from Ohio.
Great job!
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Obama bribed organizations to support his Health plan.
AARP threw its elderly members under the bus!
Another BROKEN campaign promise.
He promised NO back room deals.
Impeach Obama
and Pelosi should lose her 'speaker of the house' position!
Dump Obama
Dump Pelosi.
SEND a pink slip to Congress men and women who VOTED for the BILL>
World Net Daily has the pink slip campaign!
chrysiescat 2 years ago
I just wanted to say thank you, Chrysie, for citing specific parts of this bill that are clearly horrible for the American people. Some of us - including me - get so emotional about it we don't stop to bring our proof to the table. I only wish I could post my senator's letter on here, but it was two pages long. He's against this version of the bill & has an excellent solution. I'll head over to WND - thanks for the tip!!!
magdelineable 2 years ago
Chrysie,
Actually, there was no bribes of any significance involved with AARP & AMA...
Read the next posts I'll put on here and you'll see what my research has found...
bigtex501 2 years ago
AARP "Supports obamer CARE"???
WONDER WHY???
Part II
Insurance giants like United, Aetna, WellPoint, & Cigna will be the biggest winners in reform legislation that will REQUIRE every American to carry insurance.
Millions of people who now have NO coverage will be ***MANDATED*** to buy policies from these very companies.....
And that, of course, means BILLIONS IN NEW PROFITS.
Meanwhile.. should the "Public Option" pass..
AARP stands to make MILLIONS MORE in "royalties" from UNITED!
bigtex501 2 years ago
AARP "Supports obamer CARE"???
WONDER WHY???
Part I
Last year, AARP collected $222 MILLION IN ROYALTIES from United Healthcare which is....
the SECOND LARGEST insurance firm BOASTING profits in 2008 of...
$75.4 BILLION, which provides most of the health insurance marketed under...
the AARP brand!
That figure is almost as much as AARP collected in dues from its members!
NOW... with the "Public Plan"....
(cont)
bigtex501 2 years ago
AMA "Supports obamer CARE"?
WONDER WHY?
AMA's priority throughout the healthcare debate has been to "FIX" the Medicare payment formula that threatens to chop Medicare reimbursement of doctors by 21% this year & more later on.
NOW.... with the current $245 BILLION "DOC FIX" legislation "coupled" with H.R. 3962, doctors will see,
their "payment schedules" INCREASE!
And with the Democrat's MANDATES...
the "number of patients" will INCREASE.. bringing in MORE BUSINESS to their practices!
bigtex501 2 years ago
Why do people continue to reach for a cardboard sign when protest signs have yet to stop any insistent tyrant from doing what he wishes to do? Protesting has not stopped the Iraq War and it has caused the real perpetrators of 9/11 to admit to their crimes.
Curium244 2 years ago
@Curium244
It's all we have right now and I think it's important to express our views any way we can. I feel your frustration and I do wish like you that there was another way. Maybe soon someone will step up to the plate. Peace
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Sec. 59b (pp. 297-299) says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars. Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement.
Sec. 1114 (pp. 391-393) replaces physicians with physician assistants in overseeing care for hospice patients.
chrysiescat 2 years ago
just how BAD is this bill? Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a "qualified plan" covers and how much you'll be legally required to pay for it. ....................................................................................That's like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later.
chrysiescat 2 years ago
this stupid bill will never make all the way. it will fall apart as is the democrat party.
MrMarkthepatriot 2 years ago
go Jon Voight!!
It is like Obama/Pelosi/Reed/Gore etc. want to destroy the US
Government Health Care and Cap and Trade bills are very bad for the USA.
please re-evaluate Obama's COLB posted on the internet.
How can any intelligent person- who gets a good close-up view of the Hawaii Emboss seal on the COLB say that pitiful thing is a GENUINE SEAL?
compare to a genuine seal:
theobamafile[]com/_images/COLBOfficialVsObama[]bmp
do we have an usurper in office as POTUS?
2009WarriorLass 2 years ago
a word from the Senate says the bill is dead on arrival ........just like before the summer recess.
Bald Eagle Music video "This is America" America is a blessed land because of God and the freedom- HE wants us to have.
Government run programs are tyranny NOT FREEDOM!
2009WarriorLass 2 years ago
Is it time for revolution or civil war yet? I will not let them know what health care I buy, I will not buy theirs, they have no authority over me. As much as liberals love this Marxist crap, it's unconstitutional. When they come for me, to enforce their unconstitutional laws, I will defend myself and my family at any cost. When the criminals run the gov, I will do anything it will take and I am not afraid of the consequences. What would Washington do?
dummycrat 2 years ago
yo loakum,
so glad you found a home here.
problem is nobody cares about a word you may say. we are not your audience, you're just forcing yourself on others. that is very impolite. you only inspire me to go back to dc and stand up for the constitution and your freedom.
you're a loser, a boor, a parasite and a pathetic little person.
go back home. your mother sill loves you even though you threw her under the healthcare bus.
2010 will be historic - i hope at the polls.
americanchestnutree 2 years ago
why are we allowing these pupets taking the country to the far far far left. WHY?
Socialism, Marxism doesn't work. Our founding fathers are rolling over in theire graves, along with the many men and women who have defended this country against the same type of people.
I am saddened by the shear lack of knowledge of history by so many.
Disabled VET
and proud to say
daveh69 2 years ago
datz funny, G!
newdebate 2 years ago
@newdebate haha thanks D! you should have seen his face when I asked him the question on CSPAN's American Journal. After I asked if he thought Obarry could get elected in 2012 without ACORN since they are under indictment and funding has been cut. That was his answer. lol They hung up on me pretty quick or I would have asked him if he had the audacity to ask for the birth certificate before he ran the campaign.
His book
"The Audacity to Win" lol quite an original title...brilliant! lol
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Obama (Soetoro) was the ACORN lawyer, so yes his guilt is by association in this case. If he were honest, we would have disclosure of his true history rather than stonewalling.
Funny thing, the racist NAACP allowed Soetoro (Obama) membership on a waiver of the minimum black blood fraction.
The Barry Soetoro cult is over. That was proven in New Jersey.
newdebate 2 years ago
@newdebate
Obarry's campaign manager says ACORN had nothing to do with getting Obarry elected. That must hurt the little nuts that worked so hard to get Mickey mouse registered thirty times to vote for him...
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Loakum, would you like more koolaid? ACORN/SEIU will refresh your drink. The Barry Soetoro cult is old news. He's rotting in office, ask the Oval Office flies, lol!
newdebate 2 years ago
Oh...the guilt by association thingy? How is that working for you? Seeing how great it helped McCain/Palin or Hannity...lol
Loakum 2 years ago
Loakum, actually it's guilt by association, & association & association & association & association & association & association & etc. etc etc.
thrummer1953 2 years ago
NY23? Where the Republican candidate quit and endorsed the Democratic candidate? That should be a workable model nationwide, yes?
The Pelosi bill passed 220 - 215...wow, mandate city!
newdebate 2 years ago
Did it get passed? Answer: YES. lol, will it pass the Senate? Answer..more then likely YES. The voters that voted the Dems to hold the majority in the House and senate, are very pleased that the bill passed, with a public option. :-)
Loakum 2 years ago
Let the Dems try and pass this crap throught the Senate..
They will be booted out on their commie asses next yr.
bucs2921 2 years ago
this is in the bill
Page 94 - Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private individual health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government.
................
this bill is ABOUT CONTROL not insuring the uninsured.
You don't have to destroyed the whole health insurance industry to insure those who don't have insurance.
So this bill passed any way!
chrysiescat 2 years ago
World Net Daily has a send a pink slip to Congress. Nearly 5 MILLION have been sent ;but some STILL have not got the message!
They (Demos) lost 2 gov. seats. They must feel that it is NOW or never because the US citizens are turning against Obama's policies.
Pelosi has become a MAD RAPIB dog to " do the kill now!"
Send Congress a pink slip! ESPECIALLY to SENATORS!
chrysiescat 2 years ago
I thought it was appropriate that Pelosi was wearing red while giving her victory speech. Victory for them - not the American people. My congressman has a brilliant plan & voted no so rest assured there is a much better solution than this. My fellow Americans, we still have time to get health care reform that helps us instead of hurts us. Contact your senator - plead your case. Now is the time to PEACEFULLY, LEGALLY be heard and I for one will not "go quietly into the good night".
magdelineable 2 years ago
Who will be the first person fined or imprisoned for failure to comply?
How many companies are going to move their operations offshore to avoid this mess? How many small businesses will simply reduce their work force to pay their portion of this bill? California recently paid workers in IOU's. Will doctors take IOU's? Oh, I forgot, no such thing as real debt or real money, we just pretend and keep digging a deeper debt hole.
godreach 2 years ago 2
Not one of the "Congressmen" that voted yes for this bill will actually have the pleasure of participating in this legislation. No, not one.
They have "special" health care. They have exempted themselves from their own legislation. What a proud day in Amerika.
Next will come the lawyers and the lawsuits interpreting what the bill says and doesn't say. Activist judges will of course tell all us simple folk out here what it really says. In the meantime, this country collapses under mismanagement.
godreach 2 years ago 2
HealthCare Bill Just Passed The House! LOL, Yah!
Loakum 2 years ago
@Loakum Next stop US Supreme court!
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
LOL, that again? I guess the "Birthers" case getting thrown out of the Supreme Court wasn't enough, huh? Oh well. :-)
Loakum 2 years ago
@Loakum
You don't like the Constitution? I think you know where the door is...
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
I don't like the Constitution? Oh heavens..when did I utter such a thing? I'm supporting a democratically elected President, and support a bill that was passed by a branch of government. I was under the impression, that I was following the Constitution. Perhaps U're the one that should consider "that door". lol
Loakum 2 years ago
@Loakum
I am considering using the door as are many small business and people who have the foresight to see what is coming. You're vote for the President doesn't count, the electoral college decides the Presidency not your votes. You see the little people can't be counted on to vote smart enough so they took that away years ago.
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Electoral college vote, is apart of the democratic process of electing a US President, which supports my previous statement. Besides, all politics is local, so we "little people" votes do still count for something. :-)
Loakum 2 years ago
@Loakum oh yes ... like getting Al Franken elected. lol
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
lol or Sarah Palin..oh that's right...my mistake. :-)
Loakum 2 years ago
@Loakum Your mistake was voting your race instead of common sense...
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Now rachelabomdotcom, that was completely uncalled for. Why did U feel the need to bring race into the discussion? Did they bring up race when all the other 43 Presidents were all non minority, voted in by mostly non minorities? Answer: NO. For your information Obama was voted in based on his message of CHANGE, that earned him votes from black, white, chinese, latino,ect. I guess the reason why YOU brought up race, because when YOU see people like me..or PRESIDENT Obama, that's ALL YOU SEE!
Loakum 2 years ago
@Loakum
93% voted for the magical mystery man... and voting for change is a ridiculous concept. He has broken just about every promise he made besides the one about transforming America. I liked it the way it was. The guy doesn't even know how many states are in the union.
"Ive now been to fifty ssseven states?"
Barack Hussein Obama
Presidential candidate 2008
He's sure no Alan Keyes...
His biggest theme was spread the wealth.
Did you get yours yet? Goldman Sachs did... .
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
"I can see Russia from my house" - Palin. ROTFLMAO!
Hmmm..I guess I must have voted for Alan Keys, Michael Steele...because according to you, we African Americans only vote on skins color, instead of policies that will directly effect our country. See what I did there? Answer: Pointed out the ridiculous-ness in that incredibly flawed argument.
Loakum 2 years ago
@Loakum, opinions changed quickly among Independent voters. Barry Soetoro is widely known to be not eligible for POTUS. Why does he continue to hide all of his records? Perhaps he has a guilty mind.
Presidential Approval Index: -10
Strongly Approve: 30%
Strongly Disapprove: 40%
Rasmussen Reports survey of likely voters, 11/08/09.
newdebate 2 years ago
Didn't Regan go through a much simular highs and lows, in his first year? Answer: YES. Approval ratings for a sitting President only matters in year 4, when they are seeking a second term. Obama's approval rating is still over mid 50 percent. (Gallup). Obama is bassically a shoe-in, to win re-election. And I will do everything, in my power to ensure that he will get re-elected. :-)
Loakum 2 years ago
Loakum, good for you! How about the smackdown in New Jersey? Wasn't that billed as Obama/Corzine on the posters? LoL
newdebate 2 years ago
Didn't the GOP just lose a seat, they held on to for the past 50 years? Answer: YES. lol, again I must state: All politics is local. :-)
Loakum 2 years ago
hey, magdelineable. . . . i forgot one of my rules, told to me by a wise old woman. . . .
"never get into an argument with an idiot-anyone watching will not be able to tell which one is which"
not exactly applicable here, as filly is clearly an O-bot troll. . .
pushing a rope up the hill, or attempting to teach calculus to my cat.
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
I called into CSPAN on thursday and spoke with Obarry's campaign manager mr Plouffe...
I asked him if he thought Obarry had a chance in 2012 without ACORN since they are going down in flames with indictments and investigations, and all the funding being cut. He claimed ACORN had nothing to do with Obarry getting elected! That's the kind of people who are going to be in between you and your DR...
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
cap and trade would pay money from YOUR pockets, (via taxes passed down from corporations)to the world bank.
the world bank which is controlled by and owned by the same evil bastards that own the federal reserve-rothschilds, warburgs, rockefellers. . .the feds' policy of "fractional reserve banking" is fraud, and designed from implementation to crash OUR financial institutions into one world bank. the root of all EVIL is the FEDERAL RESERVE whose interests are implemented by
PROSTITICIANS
WTFU
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
CAP AND TAX MOVES TO THE SENATE
the workings of the federal reserve and their corporate counterparts are being illuminated, the latest being al gore(the carbon whore)/general electric/NBC/world bank.
NBC gives carbon whore 75 free minutes to broadcast his propaganda.
GE stands to sell one trillion of wind turbines when cap and trade bill is passed
"al gore is sued by 30,000 scientists for fraud" (see on youtube)
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
this is fishy-
"Shocking Hypocrisy Audio Found Obama didn't like it when Bush Rushed Through Legislation"
radio interview with Randi Rhodes in 2004. like page 425 of the obamacare bill that says a government stooge will decide what medical treatment my 88 year old Mom can get.
OBAMA WANTS TO KILL OUR MOMMAS
(sung to Frank Zappa and the Mothers' of Invention -"My Guitar Wants to Kill your Momma")
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
the sold out cretins forced members of congress to vote on cap and trade without even seeing the actual bill being voted on. the official copy voted on did not include 300 pages of amendments. health care fraud is no different.
PROSTITICIANS ARE STEAMROLLING THIS BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP DAILY TO SEE THE GOVERNMENTAL CORRUPTION, LIES AND THEFT
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
oh ... and Phillip ... about your wealth. Did you make your money without worrying about cap and trade? Did you have to worry how to put food on the table, pay for your own health care and be forced to pay for your employee's health care? Or did you become wealthy BECAUSE of democracy? Mmm hmmm. I THOUGHT so. Don't YOUR children and grandchildren deserve the same opportunities in life you had?
magdelineable 2 years ago
"I believe the Council of Foreign Relations and its ancillary elitist groups are indifferent to communism. The have no ideological anchors. In their pursuit of a new world order they are prepared to deal without prejudice with the communist state, a socialist state, a democratic state, monarchy, oligarchy -- it's all the same to them."
-Sen Barry Goldwater, 1979
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
C hicago
C ommunist
C oalition
P arty
little red-meet BIG RED.
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
No wonder why he got dis-owned by his own biological daughter.
Loakum 2 years ago
@Loakum
His daughter the home wrecker whore who made out with her brother at the academy awards?
ew
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Come On, don't be shy, explain how you really feel about Angelina Jolie.
Loakum 2 years ago
I am having a party today and we are watching the healthcare debate on the House floor.
We are playing this game where we take a shot of Jack everytime a Republican says, "Government Takeover!"
Johnny died!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
maybe you, or one of your "friends" in barney franks' basement can answer this-what is Cloward- Piven?
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
I have been arguing with the brain dead Obama followers now for a year.
Have facts they can't argue with!
chrysiescat 2 years ago
If you want to know what really is going on, watch Glenn Beck. You can't argue with the facts he has gotten ahold of, and others sending him info.
You have to ask your self, if this healthcare is suppose to cover those who don't have, then why is it going to leave out 34milllion and won't start until 2012?
This is all about control, they want to control everything you do, and to spread the wealth.
This must be stopped everywhere and people need to let the voices be heard
Disabled VET
daveh69 2 years ago
What you folks don't take into account is our governments past record. The right to keep and bear arms does not really mean that? The right to pursue happiness qualifies as abortion rights. Lawyers will turn this thing into just one more governmental nightmare and you are naive to think otherwise. It's not that we don't want health care, we just do not believe one word these politicians say.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 2962 times, shame on me.
godreach 2 years ago
Phillip, take a look at Kennedy, Johnson and Viet Nam. It took a republican Richard Nixon to stop the madness.
godreach 2 years ago
Page 297 - Section 501 imposes a 2.5 percent tax on all individuals who do not purchase "bureaucrat-approved" health insurance - the tax would apply on individuals with incomes under $250,000, thus breaking a central promise of then-Senator Obama's presidential campaign.
chrysiescat 2 years ago 3
@chrysiescat
Thanks so much for the information you posted.
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
That "Bureacrat Approved" insurance you are talking about is YOUR insurance company. YOUR insurance company will no longer be able to deny care because of a pre-existing condition, or cap what they pay once you get sick. ALL PHI companies will have to adhere to these rules, (which they should have done on their own!) Yes, what is different between you and me is that 2.0% is nothing compared to what we are paying now for the un-insured!! Wake up man!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
Page 111 - Section 223 establishes a new board of federal bureaucrats (the "Health Benefits Advisory Committee") to dictate the health plans that all individuals must purchase.
Page 211 - Section 321 establishes a new government-run health plan that, according to non-partisan actuaries at the Lewin Group, would cause as many as 114 million Americans to lose their existing coverage.
chrysiescat 2 years ago
the bill as written clearly ststae we do NOT have the right to keep our insurance.
Pelosi put it BACK in her bill she presented MONDAY.
I would have until the year 2013 to switch to government insurance or pay a fine THAT is unconstitutional.
This bill is not about giving the uninsured insurance. You don't have to GUT the Heath Insurance companies to do that. This bill is about CONTROL!
chrysiescat 2 years ago
OMG, are you kidding? In 2013 if you are still happy with your private health insurance company, the government will NOT force you to do anything. I have read both HR 3200 and HR 3962 and NO where in both of those bills does it state you have to chose out of the exchange or the public option. Quit lying, that is why your party consists of 21% of the voting public! Most people WANT to gut the fuck out of the PHI industry. They have been killing people for way too long!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
you've read nearly 2,000 pages of a HR bill?
what a laugh!
chrysiescat 2 years ago
Yes, I have read every page! Thanks for asking!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
then why, if it is "voluntary" does section 7203 specify a misdemeanor willful failure to pay being punishabele by a fine of up to $25,000 and imprisonment up to one year? or section which is a felony-fine up to $250,000 and jail for up to five years?
did you read that?
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
There is no Section 7203 in HR 3962. Fear and lies! Unbelievable!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
there is no philipmarch, only ACORN-fabrication!-unbelievable. do you live in wade rahkes' garage?
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
2000pages-400,00words-2million per word- last week, of our" government announced stimulus success-600,000 jobs created for a cost of 323,000 per job-what a bargain! the "pass this or unemployment will go above 8%". . . . with "it" we are a 10%-but, don't hold them accountable. . . .
(bush did it. . . )
one firm in georgia says shamulus created 90 jobs-they have 45 employees. . . .a woman sold nine pairs of boots-gov't say 9 jobs were saved. . . .
sheeee-it!
PROSTITICIANS!
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
The GOP Healthcare Reform Bill:
Take two tax breaks and call me in the morning!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
People need to stop & contemplate the sheer outrageousness of a foreign country making campaign contributions in our elections. American elections are for American citizens! Period.
thrummer1953 2 years ago
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making an honest profit. It's great!
thrummer1953 2 years ago
"our" government announced success of the stimulus bill this week-600,000 jobs created, at a cost of only 323,000 per job-what a bargain! and unemployment rises to above 10%. these "jobs" created , if full time may pay a max of 40K/year-so, where did the difference go? to the JUNKIE-"government".
government is not the answer, government is cancer.
nancy lugosis' bill?2000pages-400,000words-2million per word
PROSTITICIANS
does anyone still believe these criminals?
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
JEWS- CATHOLIC JESUITS.VACCINE IS DESIGNED TO KILL US, AND SEPETATE US, QUARANTINE.SHIT IS GONNA GET REAL SERIOUS THIS MONTH. NEW WORLD ORDER, MEDIA, JEW ZIONIST, RFID CHIP, MARSHAL LAW, THE ILLUMINATI AND THEIR SATANIC CULT control by the devil ROTHSCHILD
KamikazeKoscki 2 years ago
Kamikaze! Check you out! Looks like you have some friends here on this video! You ought to get along well with magdelineable!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
I oppose Obama Care and have made valid points for doing so as have others. What do you accomplish with your childish comments?
magdelineable 2 years ago
Mag all this liberal phillip sees is "free healthcare" and thats all he wants. Most of these types can't or will not see this plan will just bancrupt us. He is really lying about the va as I'm from a millitary family and no one loves it. He is probably one of those people you hear about that are being paid to lie for Obamabummer!
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
So you are from a military family eh? What do you think VA health care is? GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE. Ask your dad about it. The VA's Office of Public Health is a public government run institution. And vets by and large love it. Hypocrite.
jensen1901 2 years ago
Vets, hate it fool! That's why most vets are republicans. They see how fools like Obama can't even take care of vets.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
Bowlshit. You know who vets gave the most money to in 2008? Ron Paul. Not your typical REpublican. You know who led the charge to fix Walter Reade hospital while Bush was clearing brush down in Texas? Democrat (and veteran) Congressman Murtha.
Cheeny was a draft dodger, btw. 5 deferments. Suck it.
jensen1901 2 years ago
I can't you have all of it in your mouth.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
Not meaning to offend anybody, but:
Some of the stuff he says is nuts. I'm as "freedom-loving" as the next man, but I still want everyone to have access to health care.
11235RS 2 years ago
Since I am the corporation and believe in limited government, no brain washing necessary. It is the right way to think, rather than to suck at the tit of the government, while producing nothing but waste. Sounds like yourself doesn't it??
ladylordess 2 years ago
I can think of a TRILLION reasons that this bill should not pass and 1900 pages.
Who can pay for a lawyer for a year to understand this new bill? And we have only a few hours to look at it?
CPAsheldon 2 years ago 2
I can think of 3 TRILLION reasons why the invasion of Iraq was an illegal, immoral, and needless war! I don't hear anyone bitching about that! Where were the tea parties then? (All estimates show that by the time that cluster fuck is over, the cost will exceed 3 TRILLION. That includes all VA costs for all the veterens!)
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
I'll throw you a bone - the overspending started long before Obama. But it sounds to me, Phillip, like you want this bill for revenge over a war you disagree with. Since you brought it up, though, veterans fought for the Constitution & Bill of Rights. Obama Care is completely unconstitutional as my body is MY property to do with as I choose .... not gov't property to do with as they see fit.
magdelineable 2 years ago
Yes, the spending did start before President Obama! And yes, the Iraq war's ghosts have yet to come back to haunt us. I just can't believe the hypocracy of the Republicans. Their party would be so much better off if they had started their little tea parties under the last administration. There is NOTHING "unconditional" about this reform bill. Many constitutional lawyers have reviewed the bill.
Choices? This reform bill is all about CHOICES! Read it!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
I have read it unlike you. It funds abortions forces people into lower coverages with higher costs. Tell me why are you intent on being a dmocrat clown? Tell me with real world debt being 53 trillion that you insist on bancrupting the country?
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
I have read HR 3200 and HR 3962. Completely! The bills adhere to the Hyde amendment.
Why are the REPUBLICANS intent on bankrupting the country? No problem spending trillions on wars, but 1.2 Trillion in 10 years to help your fellow Americans? Oh fuck, we can't do that!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
I would love for you to admit how much money are the democrats paying you? Tell me the trillions Obama has already spent that has raised unemployement. Tell me why you can't comprehend basic math that if you spend more than you take in that you go under?
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
Are you serious? Do you think that the Democrat party is paying me to blog on this site? Good God Almighty, everything is a big conspiracy . No, I am just your basic Liberal who cares about people less fortunate than me!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago
The bill does not cover abortion. A few democrats wanted it to, but that ammendment was cut out today by other democrats who wanted the bill to pass. The bill passed the house, btw, so you lose. And the whole point of the health care bill is that it will end up SAVING money over the long term, not "bankrupt" America.
jensen1901 2 years ago
Like I said you're uninformed and uneducated about the bill. Read it then you might know something other than being a begger on Obama's tit crying for him to drop his drawers so you can get the real candy cane that you want.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
I have read the real bill. What you have read are cut and pasted bits on early versions of the bill on right wing blogs. Don't believe everything you read on blogs.
jensen1901 2 years ago
I have news for you bucko.....what goes on between a doctor and his patient in the examining room is private.....
A woman will have an abortion if she decides to have one. The doctor will just call it something else.
Get your head out of your butt and join the real world.
172677 2 years ago
I DID read it. It takes away MY freedom to decide what to do with MY body which is MY private property - not the gov'ts. The gov't will tell docs the path they should follow - again unconstitutional as it's clearly allowing the govt to interfere with my private proerty - my body. It also will allow abortions which breeches religious freedom. And this is your idea of being reasonable? I throw you a bone & you go off on me? Tea parties serve a purpose - they give the people a voice.
magdelineable 2 years ago
That is a lie. The government will NOT be telling you what to do with your body. The only people who intervene with what you or your family can do with a body are Republicans. Remember Terry Shaivo? Now THAT is the government intruding on a personal health matter.
jensen1901 2 years ago
Tell me since you like to lie. Why does Obama want to tax pop? Tell me the uninformed partisan fool why does he want to force you to work out?
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
He wants to tax the top 1 percent of Americans. Is that you? Are you making over a million a year? Obama promised he will not raise taxes on any family making $250K a year. He has kept that promise and will keep it. He is raising taxes on the rich because we need to get money back into the system that Bsh took out. Our roads are crumbling and we need to start re-investing in America. No one wants to "force me to work out." What the fuck are you talking about?
jensen1901 2 years ago
You are so uninformed and lacking that it is really funny. You keep hearing "free" and thats it. He will raise taxes on everything. Ever hear of cap and trade? Ever hear of the extra tax on gas he wants? I bet not, you can't hear it when you're still chanting and singing his songs.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
I never said "free." It will cost all of us. But Obama will NOT be taxing those making 250K or less. But it will cost us all LESS than it does now. The system is broken. Democrats have the balls and the smarts to fix the system. All Republicans have is scare tactics and wanting to keep the status quo because the insurance companies are making a killing off the middle class (and lining the pockets of GOP Congressmen who are playing you like a fool).
jensen1901 2 years ago
Do you really think? Can all you do is repeat Obama lies? Is his candy cane already in your mouth? You are too stupid to even debate, so piss off. You liberals are such a joke, no facts all on your knees begging for handouts, no understanding of hard work.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
It is you who obviously cannot think or refute my truths. Got anything to say regarding my comments? Guess not. Just name calling.
jensen1901 2 years ago
What truths? You haven't got any facts at all. Tell me can I watch you cry when Obama and his thugs are kicked out
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
Here is some truth for you. Individuals in the Army, Navy and Air Force made those branches of the armed services among the top contributors in the 4th Quarter, of 2007--ranking No. 13, No. 18 and No. 21, respectively. In 2007, anti war candidate Ron Paul, who opposes U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, was the top recipient of money from donors in the military, collecting at least $212,000 from them. Barack Obama, another war opponent, was second with about $94,000.
jensen1901 2 years ago
Here are some facts for you Obama took a 1.5 million dollar donation from the Chinese goverment. 230 million dollar donation from unions. Why did China donate to Obama? They knew he would raise our debt with them and weaken our military. Tell me why Obama broke more donation laws than any has in the history of our country?
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
oh wow! 1.5 million!!! That's, like, so much money. And so what if he took money from unions. They represent the working men of America and he has to take money to compete on the airwaves against McCain (who is rich).
jensen1901 2 years ago
They don't represent the working man as 75 % of the workforce isn't union. They donated to the man that would give them the most payback. Tell me are you really a teen or preteen since you don't seam to know anything about the real world?
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
I know a lot more than you do "truth." And I'm 35, btw, so suck it. And the only reason more of the workforce isn't in unions is because Republicans have systematically worked with big business to try and stifle workers rights over the past 30 + years. Why are you on the side of people who don't care about the middle class and hard working blue collar Americans who simply want a seat at the table? Or do you think they should just be screwed over and not given health insurance or raises?
jensen1901 2 years ago
Funny you mention unions, Jensen. Because ObamaCare will HURT union workers who traded in raises for a better private health insurance plan. They lost their raises & now ObamaCare may wipe out the very insurance they passed on the raise for. THAT'S your wonderful Obama - the same one who gave shout outs to his peeps b4 expressing condolences to those at Ft Hood. People survived worse times than this w/o the mighty Obama solving their problems with band aids. Trust in GOD - not government.
magdelineable 2 years ago
More lies mag! All unions support this bill, are you looking ANTHING up before you post?
phillipmarch22 2 years ago