it's better to say that this is how pinoys would win if the Japanese fought Lapu-lapu in the Battle of Mactan... it's so heartwarming when foreigners pay attention to kali / escrima / arnis. sad thing is ... pinoys don't love their native sports.
How is it fair that the escrima guy gets 2 weapons? I've seen plenty of escrima fights where they just use one.
All these "my style is better" arguments are really dumb. While the style might have a small part to play, 90% of any fighter's success or failures will come from their own skills and the amount of work they put into it. If you look at ANY 2 martial arts styles, youre going to be able to find guys who can beat the other style going in both directions.
Good stuff, the escrima guy did better, but I think we could get a better representative of kendo before we close the books on this one. i woulda freshed that guy with a shinai
@Bluecollarchef@copypacercopypacer During WWII Escrima practitioners went head-to-head Ken-Jutsu practitioners in real-life fights to the death. Some won, some lost. Those that survived these encounters continued to evolve their techniques and improve thei skills. They eventually established schools that survive to date. There are still unsanctioned death matches between these schools. Can you say the same for Ken-Jutsu?
@VolDep45 Nope but Japan had a much, much longer history of warfare with the sword, so if you're implying that Filipino martial arts are more tested and developed, I'd say you're wrong. I've trained in both. I was referring to this specific match, and if it makes you feel better I woulda freshed him with a rattan stick, too. Btw a shinai is sports equipment. A realistic contest would feature at least a bokken if not an actual sword.
Well... The Kendoka is not really skillful in this video... Just look at how he can't control de maai (distance between him and the other). His stance is unbalanced and when he goes to the upper stance (jodan) is totally awfull... His footwork is, somewhat, unprecise... Well, he may be a beginner... I can't make any comment about the escrimador, since i don't know the martial art!
I don't know...taking armor into consideration ...even if they were 2 blades slashing weapons will not penetrate that armor, the Kendoka scored some solid "one strike one kill" techniques, but take away the armor as with a WWII scenario then it is a totally different story...great video...
@Thegamerprodigyxj The fighter with the single bambo stick designed to look like a sword is practicing Kendo, it is a Japanese sword-fighting sport. The one with the two bambo sticks is using an art called Kali or Arnis or Ercima, that is a Filipino stick-fighting art that became a sport. This video, Kendo vs Escrima, is sort of a "when sports collide" kind of thing.
@StyleGuy08 major difference is that with real blades, kenjutsu vs eskrima, kenjutsu has a major advantage because of reach compared to a eskrimador since he's only going to use one blade.
My father and uncles have sucessfully used this back in WWII when they were guerillas aiding the GI's.They have all lived to tell their stories.I have also studied traditional Japanese martial arts and even my sensei's from Japan admit that Ecsrima/ Kali is complicated.Thanks for posting.
There's something I don't really get. The kendo guy, multiple times, got close into the escrimador with his shinai raised. It looks like he's in the disadvantage position (the escrimador holds up the shinai with one of the sticks), and then the escrimador strikes the kendo guy's side. Why doesn't the kendo guy at least try to jump back? I saw the same thing happen in another kendo vs escrima video. Is this part of the kendo match tradition or something?
@snowwolfsabertooth As in European longsword fighting for the most part, high guard is considered the best position. It's just that against the escrimador, this is clearly not the case and he gets his ass kicked trying to use it. To be fair, this is still probably true. It would be even worse if he went in with his sword low or out to try to maintain distance.
Wow for some reason this makes me think of WWII with filipinos haviing to fight back a brutal occupation, though I doubt there was ever a drawn out hand to hand fighting.
I don't want to sounds like defending kendo but looking at his foot and posture, he's not even a shodan(1st dan) yet. And his attack is careless too, no seme or speed at all. The escrimador looks enjoying the game and move more fluid, I think this is the key.
@Jetman123 says who?, double stick, or double bolo is just the same. I use sticks, bolo, and kampilan, some styles like mine use the kampilan that is slightly shortest than a katana as well, but single kampilan or kampilan and dagger
This is why the nitou ryu was the style of the invincible Miyamoto Musashi, and why dual wielders are so gosh darned pesky to deal with, escrima or whatever other kind of weapons one may be dealing with.
I personally believe that the escrima stylist has had more experience and has been taught extensively to deal with a single, longer blade. Howver, i give props to the kendo stylist for blocking many of those hits. he was right in using the overhead stance, but should have mixed his strikes with stikes swinging from under to over for variation. Well played.
if it was real warriors back then i dont think we filipinos have chance cuz our weapon cant do a thing on there armor , we fight with no shirt!!!! but i love both though
@INTHEHONOROFROCK It depends on the style of FMA. Yes, sticks can be replaced by bolos, but not all stick techniques can be extrapolated to blades (ie strickig techniques, grabbing sticks and some tie-ups). Most of your "older" styles of FMA are blade based and it shows with the way they teach strikes, blocks and disarming.
that's not how filipinos won... the proper way is that's how they held them back for a while until Gen. MacArthur came back ......... but if The americans never came back to rescue I'm pretty sure that Philippines is going to be a part of Japan if not most Filipinos back then were probably dead... and most of the Japanese imperial army were not samurai
the moros are better than the visayans because visayans didn't know how to fight, moros were the superior warriors back then because there weapons were more developed unlike the luzon and visayan tribes who only used sticks, small knives and wooden spears who ran naked like a caveman into a fight. moros had swords and were more developed and smarter then the northern weak neighbors. eskrima, arnis and kali doesn't work compared to moro mindinao silat
@Katipunanasone My uncle told me stories about a group of Filipino commandos he fought alongside during Korea he said they would go out in the middle of the night behind enemy lines with nothing but Machetes and fighting knives. The North Koreans feared them for their fearlessness in combat and the fact that they got there ass handed to them by dudes with knives they said they would attack and disappear like ghost before they could react.
El del Kendo no hace Kiai, no sala lo mejor del Kendo. El de esgrima no tiene la protección necesaria para pelear contra uno de Kendo, sino hace rato estaria en el piso.
The answer to the dual wielding thing is that a single weapon gives you a lot more control and raw power than dual wielding and a stronger "centerline" guard as opposed to the spaced guard given by dual wielding. If you've ever sparred with weapons and used a dual weapon like tonfa you've probably had the experience of a kendo guy or longsword fencer smashing his way through your guard. There are two ways to getting past a guard - wear it down (guys bigger than you favor this) or you slide in
Presuming the fighters have near equal skill, I just don't get how someone with a single blade would win as often as someone wielding two. You can't attack without an opening, but the double wielder can block and thrust/cut/chop/whatever at the same time. How would the double wielder not win most battles?
@Redspy27 I'm no expert or anything but I'd guess this much, 2 swords would be harder to control so if they have equal skill the person with one sword has the easier weapon and thus more control.
So it's probably better but much harder to use.
Also, using one sword would mean you can swing with both arms and get more power in a swing which could require the person using 2 swords to block with both of them.
Again, I'm not at all an expert these are just guesses.
@cZard91 Actually, it's all about personal preference. There's really no question about what weapon you use-- because it's not about the weapon. It's the wielder. It's kinda like chopsticks versus spoon and fork. Some eat better with chopsticks while some struggle, vice versa with the spoon and fork. Hope this makes things a bit clearer.
@PoppinJazzY kendo and eskrima are two totally different systems. It is not about personal preference, it is about tactics and philosophy. Kendo is a very shallow sport application of older kenjutsu with very specific rules and tactics. Eskrima is a combat system with a great deal of lattitude in application. Kendo is about mind/body harmony and all that jazz. Eskrima is about busting your head open with a stick. A much better "versus" comparison would be Eskrima/Kali vs. Kenjutsu.
@Karathan Yup I was just watching this and thinking the same thing. We train with Bokkan and go for wrists and exposed undefended points first. Going to MijiJodan exposes the Kendo guy to lower body attacks unless he was drawing the Escrima guy in, kudos for him not taking the bait It looks like fun to put on the pads and really go for it, these guys are lucky to have the Dojo to do this in.
May I remind you lot that comparing kendo to katana technique is quite foolish. Kendo is a sport where you aim for points. You don't try to cut people in half with a katana, you try to cut open vital parts like wrists. Therefore the escrima guy would have be quite careful not to leave his wrists open.
But I somehow like this fight even though I don't like martial sports much. Both are doing a nice job and clearly fighting for the hell of it. :)
@renzokuken00 lol i doubt that der just using kendo sticks.but if he was using a real samurai i bet you would run to your house and lock yourself up.lol
@renzokuken00 you would get your hands and head beaten to a pulp thats a stupid way to disadvantage yourself it would be way too hard to close the distance
@KORRG4pictures Guess its like the phrase 'its easy to call the score once the game is over' - i admire your honesty though.. Lots of people would just bullshit and explain how they're descendants of the last samurai master and taught chuck norris how to pwn faces.
I give that to the escrima guy, although I saw a bout between an escima practitioner and a kendo practitioner and the kendo guy dominated.
I guess it depends on the person, and whether or not the escrima fighter can ward off the kendo sword and close the distance fast enough, or whether he just gets beaten repeatedly from a distance.
Not only does the kendo swordsman generally suck but even a freaking amateur knows not to use high stance when the enemy can block and counter faster than you can bring the sword down.
hmm.. actually iscrima/kali/arnis don't focus in forms we actually focus in defenses or practicality... and we hit in different directions... i don't practice kendo so i would like to anyone of why is it that the kendo guy is using only one direction? is kendo really use one direction?
@waltzmelancholy it depends on what region you are in ... I'm Also an arnisador so i know some of it's backgrounds (as you know arnis has diff. styles). in anyo we focus in forms. but in real life situations we focuses in practicality and applications (proper stance and posture for effective hits) we don't care if we look silly or not whats important is, you will able to disable your opponent. and when i said form i was talking about good posing or show up. thanks for your comment/opinion .
OIC... So we're actually in the same page... Yeah, it doesn't matter how silly you look but the point of the matter is that you know that's its effective and practical... What's your style btw?...
this is just BAD kendo... no feinting, no intention, no spirit, no nothing. Pure empty "kendo form", that's all. You can't even beat an unarmed fighter with that attitude. The escrima fighter isn't that good, but he's not thinking of form or anything, so he wins easily.
I think the kendo practitioner needs to practice clipping things with the very tip of his shinai, he has good reflexes and footwork, moves perfectly for the longer weapon and they saved his butt a number of times, but he needs to know where his weapon reach ends and keep his opponent just outside that, thrusting and shorter cuts at the face, neck and heart to try and keep his opponent from charging through his advantage area.
great job to that guy! he actually knew how to use escrima against a one-bladed opponent, and knew how to block the obvious attacks from the ceiling with a roof block. Im very pleased with this video :P
This single bladed surely fights, his defensive techniques are efficient but when he attacks the dual bladed have more advantage, in my opinion. The dual bladed moves too much but in exchange he uses short blades which actualy make his movements favored by speed. However his attacks are 'predictable'.
@kabatozankyou Damn straight... The kendoka could've probably have gone for a tsuki... And tried the other kamaes from the kendo kata. Perhaps it'd help.
Kendo has to many rules. If you practice old kenjutsu you can win because you don't have the rules of kendo in your head and can actually turn it into a knock down drag out fight.
What I do is combine the discipline of kendo with the actual techniques of old kenjutsu. If you are fighting in something like this kenjutsu is much better since there were no rules in a real fight.
My escrima master said that you should treat the weapon not as weapon but as a part of your body.. That might be what their lacking at but they're still good..
I do kendo but escrima looks like a lot of fun. the escrima guy doesnt represents the sport too well. Always retreating and never taking the first step. If escrima represents real sword fight like some of the people say, then he would lose. He would be out of breath, be backed into a corner and killed. The other videos I saw were much more agressive due to the dual short sword setup. Anyway it looks like a lot of fun I would like to try it, very intense and aggressive, almost karate like
@LUVDELUXXXE well machetes are not that heavy certainly not as heavy as a katana,and i think they train enough to where they wont get tired after a couple of strikes, truth is you weill not know till they do it.
I do kendo but escrima looks like a lot of fun. the escrima guy doesnt represents the sport too well. Always retreating and never taking the first step. If escrima represents real sword fight like some of the people say, then he would lose. He would be out of breath, be backed into a corner and killed. The other videos I saw were much more agressive due to the dual short sword setup. Anyway it looks like a lot of fun I would like to try it, very intense and aggressive, almost karate like.
see why two handed sword is sucks?..although it has superiority in reach and power, it also has limited angle because the two hand that grip the sword and that means predictable movement,I my self is silat practicioner that familiar with golok and Iwll say that not only golok but all machete familiy (like the Dao of kungfu) is more fluid in motion and maneuver increasing the unpredictable angle of attacks
the explorer Magellan was killedt by a Native using escrima technique (yes. it's an ancient filipino martial art form) but using a bolo instead of sticks. they waited for the spanish in waist-deep water, putting the armor clad spaniards at a disadvantage, thus leveling the odds. their heavy long swords never did stand a chance. the natives aimed their short stabbing bolos at the exposed body parts.
I always saw escrimas as tactically better. They're a lot faster and strike multiple places at once. Great for simultaneous defense/offense. A sword user has to be able to move faster than the sticks were moving and use the range of his weapon to strike first. This is still difficult because of the escrimas ability to jam swords and move into range. Though I've seen it work both ways and I love swords just as much as I love escrimas.
@uuumdm I feel the need to point out that while escrima needs to essentially bludgeon the other person multiple times, a sword need only score a single halfway decent strike.
Also as you can see from the example above, escrima is much more tiring and not well suited for a drawn out encounter.
To it's advantage though, escrima practitioners can pick their weapons up off the ground while sword fighters require swords to take advantage of their art.
@gymnistico I considered that actually. Only problem is 500 characters didn't allow me to say it. I'd say it only takes a couple good strikes with an escrima to knock out an opponent but that's all relative.
thing is, you have to understand that the rattan sticks used in escrima are in place of blades, just like bokken or shinai are used in place of an actual katana. and on the point of drawn out encounters, what exactly are you referreing to? you realize alot of what is being taught to the military and law enforcement is escrima (particularly knife fighting) because of its efficiency. as much as i love kendo, i know i'd rather learn escrima when it comes to modern self defense.
@strikesubmit you know FMA also uses swords, the sticks dont replace them as such, thats just were people start, and it wouldent be to hard to use stick techniques with a sword,
i agree 100%. its just that some people have this misconception, either from just watching a handful of videos on Youtube, or out of sheer unfamiliarity of the style, that Arnis/Escrima only uses rattan sticks.
@joji64theninja "Kenjutsu is the actual sword fighting.". Kenjutsu is older than kendo. In fact, the Kendo has its origin in kenjutsu. The school of kenjutsu "katori shinto ryu" has more than 600 years. The kendo is more sports and has more regulations while the kenjutsu is focused in practical techniques, necessary to conquer in the old war.
@dombombed Kendo is similar to Kenjutsu. Mostly it's a competitive version though the katas are very similar. Kenjutsu practices more advanced techniques and a wider variety of striking areas. I could be wrong but in Kendo I think they just practice very fast strikes to the head, neck and body.
@EvilDarkJackel kali is not a old filipino martial art. kali is rather a term populurized in the usa and brought over to the philppines and the "mother art"
@TheSchmidl777 Escrima arose from Kali, which is much older. Escrima is a bastardized spanish word used to describe fighting with Espada Y Daga (sword and dagger), which the Filipino people loved. But their martial arts have always used sticks as a substitute for knives to allow for "safe" training.
The fact that Escrima does so well here isn't surprising. Anyone whose read the book of five rings will know that one of the greatest Japanese swordsmen Miyamoto Musashi used both his katana and his personal sword. Having two swords might be more complicated but in theory it gives you more options.
i practice eskrima myself and i have NO idea about kendo techniques...but with the way the eskrima guy is waving his sticks, i think a sudden straight thrust to the chest or face or throat would've caught him off guard.
On speaking with a little hottie who was once the under 18 Japanese champ of Kendo (hi Sakichan), its not actually a fighting art but a more watered down vertion of it, for e.g. there's no attacks below the belt, where as Escrima is a complete & very raw fighting style.
Kendo guy kept dying :o I am pleasantly impressed with the kali/escrima fellow though.
hayleysfinest 1 week ago
aw
69glazer 2 weeks ago
how is this related to WW2? fucking assholes... leave the past behind u dickheads...
SuperChadiX 1 month ago
first 20 seconds outside of screen *DIE MOTHER FUCKER DIE!!!!!!!!*
Evilstewie831 1 month ago
it's better to say that this is how pinoys would win if the Japanese fought Lapu-lapu in the Battle of Mactan... it's so heartwarming when foreigners pay attention to kali / escrima / arnis. sad thing is ... pinoys don't love their native sports.
thedukeboxx 1 month ago
@thedukeboxx ikaw? pinoy ka? nagaarnis ka ba? napaka negative mo sa pinoy gago.
HoleCreative 1 month ago
@thedukeboxx who says i love my native sport :P (i'm a Filipino)
l4ddude100 1 month ago
i would like to see naginata vs escrima :D
EmptyVaynes 1 month ago
How is it fair that the escrima guy gets 2 weapons? I've seen plenty of escrima fights where they just use one.
All these "my style is better" arguments are really dumb. While the style might have a small part to play, 90% of any fighter's success or failures will come from their own skills and the amount of work they put into it. If you look at ANY 2 martial arts styles, youre going to be able to find guys who can beat the other style going in both directions.
InkyOcto 1 month ago
Good stuff, the escrima guy did better, but I think we could get a better representative of kendo before we close the books on this one. i woulda freshed that guy with a shinai
Bluecollarchef 1 month ago
@Bluecollarchef @copypacercopypacer During WWII Escrima practitioners went head-to-head Ken-Jutsu practitioners in real-life fights to the death. Some won, some lost. Those that survived these encounters continued to evolve their techniques and improve thei skills. They eventually established schools that survive to date. There are still unsanctioned death matches between these schools. Can you say the same for Ken-Jutsu?
VolDep45 1 month ago
@VolDep45 Nope but Japan had a much, much longer history of warfare with the sword, so if you're implying that Filipino martial arts are more tested and developed, I'd say you're wrong. I've trained in both. I was referring to this specific match, and if it makes you feel better I woulda freshed him with a rattan stick, too. Btw a shinai is sports equipment. A realistic contest would feature at least a bokken if not an actual sword.
Bluecollarchef 1 month ago
@VolDep45 and where are you getting this information about WWII? I've never heard such a thing and neither has google. Did you just make that up?
Bluecollarchef 1 month ago
Why escrima is dacing?
superlordcesar 1 month ago
your getting good!! check out my vids for some more full speed full contact realistic sword fighting! search: Urban kendo
TheSensiSamurai 1 month ago
Well... The Kendoka is not really skillful in this video... Just look at how he can't control de maai (distance between him and the other). His stance is unbalanced and when he goes to the upper stance (jodan) is totally awfull... His footwork is, somewhat, unprecise... Well, he may be a beginner... I can't make any comment about the escrimador, since i don't know the martial art!
FexionxD 1 month ago
I don't know...taking armor into consideration ...even if they were 2 blades slashing weapons will not penetrate that armor, the Kendoka scored some solid "one strike one kill" techniques, but take away the armor as with a WWII scenario then it is a totally different story...great video...
WarriorPriest74 1 month ago
What exactly is this sport or hobby called?
Thegamerprodigyxj 1 month ago
@Thegamerprodigyxj The fighter with the single bambo stick designed to look like a sword is practicing Kendo, it is a Japanese sword-fighting sport. The one with the two bambo sticks is using an art called Kali or Arnis or Ercima, that is a Filipino stick-fighting art that became a sport. This video, Kendo vs Escrima, is sort of a "when sports collide" kind of thing.
StyleGuy08 1 month ago
@StyleGuy08 major difference is that with real blades, kenjutsu vs eskrima, kenjutsu has a major advantage because of reach compared to a eskrimador since he's only going to use one blade.
copypacercopypacer 1 month ago
kendo aint got nothing on escrima
harrowmarty3 1 month ago
My father and uncles have sucessfully used this back in WWII when they were guerillas aiding the GI's.They have all lived to tell their stories.I have also studied traditional Japanese martial arts and even my sensei's from Japan admit that Ecsrima/ Kali is complicated.Thanks for posting.
brijseeker 1 month ago
0:19 WTF camera guy?
hotairsaloon 1 month ago
There's something I don't really get. The kendo guy, multiple times, got close into the escrimador with his shinai raised. It looks like he's in the disadvantage position (the escrimador holds up the shinai with one of the sticks), and then the escrimador strikes the kendo guy's side. Why doesn't the kendo guy at least try to jump back? I saw the same thing happen in another kendo vs escrima video. Is this part of the kendo match tradition or something?
snowwolfsabertooth 1 month ago
@snowwolfsabertooth As in European longsword fighting for the most part, high guard is considered the best position. It's just that against the escrimador, this is clearly not the case and he gets his ass kicked trying to use it. To be fair, this is still probably true. It would be even worse if he went in with his sword low or out to try to maintain distance.
Psychlonic 1 month ago
Wow for some reason this makes me think of WWII with filipinos haviing to fight back a brutal occupation, though I doubt there was ever a drawn out hand to hand fighting.
SwordsmanMercenary 1 month ago
Way to follow along camera man...
bskinney1 2 months ago
escrima looks like it won hands down but im no professional...
jonting91 2 months ago
if kendo have a real sword escrima ha a kris or bolo a filipino weapon
axl9020 2 months ago
escrima.. win!!
mrkayumangi 2 months ago
Anybody else hear glass break at 0:28?
moshman1000 2 months ago
Long non-bladed weapons have a big disadvantage when closed-in, it seems.
regardless, this is very fun to watch. Thank you for upload!
AkibaKrazed 2 months ago
the fights not bad, but fire that flamin camera man!
piercedis 2 months ago
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I don't want to sounds like defending kendo but looking at his foot and posture, he's not even a shodan(1st dan) yet. And his attack is careless too, no seme or speed at all. The escrimador looks enjoying the game and move more fluid, I think this is the key.
Ardian1899 2 months ago
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Ardian1899 2 months ago
With real swords the Kendo guy would be dead in 5 seconds.
dogbite222 2 months ago
@dogbite222 ... You realize that escrima fighters generally don't use swords, right?
Jetman123 2 months ago
@Jetman123 says who?, double stick, or double bolo is just the same. I use sticks, bolo, and kampilan, some styles like mine use the kampilan that is slightly shortest than a katana as well, but single kampilan or kampilan and dagger
lordbinder 2 months ago
This is why the nitou ryu was the style of the invincible Miyamoto Musashi, and why dual wielders are so gosh darned pesky to deal with, escrima or whatever other kind of weapons one may be dealing with.
veestormcourage 2 months ago
I personally believe that the escrima stylist has had more experience and has been taught extensively to deal with a single, longer blade. Howver, i give props to the kendo stylist for blocking many of those hits. he was right in using the overhead stance, but should have mixed his strikes with stikes swinging from under to over for variation. Well played.
ANBUKylar 2 months ago
@ANBUKylar its because hes a kendoka not a kenjiutsuka.
TheBloodyBlackJackal 2 months ago
escrima rules
opsimathics 2 months ago
did a glass break in the beggining
navyteccs 2 months ago
if it was real warriors back then i dont think we filipinos have chance cuz our weapon cant do a thing on there armor , we fight with no shirt!!!! but i love both though
imCOOLson 2 months ago
@imCOOLson only visayans luzon people such as escrkimadors have no armour while moro (muslim filipinos) wear armour made from brass.
copypacercopypacer 2 months ago
This is how dual wield took advantage of 2-hands LOL
it's better with user's speed and accuracy.
gugeng 2 months ago
Are sticks just for practice then? Explain please
INTHEHONOROFROCK 2 months ago
@INTHEHONOROFROCK Yes and no.
But skill with the sticks is widely applicable. You can replace the sticks with bolos.
tehUBERn00blet 2 months ago
@INTHEHONOROFROCK It depends on the style of FMA. Yes, sticks can be replaced by bolos, but not all stick techniques can be extrapolated to blades (ie strickig techniques, grabbing sticks and some tie-ups). Most of your "older" styles of FMA are blade based and it shows with the way they teach strikes, blocks and disarming.
armynurseboy 2 months ago
And a real bolo would chop hands off.
PlagueNeko 3 months ago
A real katana would chop rattan sticks in half
INTHEHONOROFROCK 3 months ago
@INTHEHONOROFROCK shows how little you know about the sticks and the art.
ClankBrisk 2 months ago
that's not how filipinos won... the proper way is that's how they held them back for a while until Gen. MacArthur came back ......... but if The americans never came back to rescue I'm pretty sure that Philippines is going to be a part of Japan if not most Filipinos back then were probably dead... and most of the Japanese imperial army were not samurai
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the moros are better than the visayans because visayans didn't know how to fight, moros were the superior warriors back then because there weapons were more developed unlike the luzon and visayan tribes who only used sticks, small knives and wooden spears who ran naked like a caveman into a fight. moros had swords and were more developed and smarter then the northern weak neighbors. eskrima, arnis and kali doesn't work compared to moro mindinao silat
copypacercopypacer 3 months ago
Woof zukuru,
Was kicking allowed? It looks like a teep under an x-block by [Kali man] would stuff the bumrush by [kendo man] Good experimentation.
shinzu4001 3 months ago
witch grade has the kendoka?
kalleanka30 3 months ago
Ke invecil el maldito camarografo de mierda
JoxxsNagato 3 months ago
the kendoka should've just stuck tp the thrust. there's the concept of range ya know...
allshallbelosttoyou 3 months ago
That is how Filipinos won WWII.
Katipunanasone 3 months ago 29
@Katipunanasone My uncle told me stories about a group of Filipino commandos he fought alongside during Korea he said they would go out in the middle of the night behind enemy lines with nothing but Machetes and fighting knives. The North Koreans feared them for their fearlessness in combat and the fact that they got there ass handed to them by dudes with knives they said they would attack and disappear like ghost before they could react.
iceman27406 3 months ago
@iceman27406 So That's how the Allies won the Korean War as well. :)
Katipunanasone 3 months ago
@Katipunanasone thats how the moros won ww2, the only filipnos were the morosl, the rest got there ass kicked
copypacercopypacer 3 months ago
@copypacercopypacer Oh yeah, what about bolo battalion they used arnis as well
Katipunanasone 3 months ago
@Katipunanasone but they had american support while the filipno muslims were doing fine on there own period
copypacercopypacer 3 months ago
@copypacercopypacer But I am talking about the martial arts of the Philippines against Japan's
Katipunanasone 3 months ago
@Katipunanasone no i thought fillipinos won WWI and WWII and WWIII didn't you mom tell you the new change in your old history book?
Myoldnamesdontwork 2 months ago
@Katipunanasone actually they won thanks to the US but i'm assuming you already knew that
FutureMarine246 2 months ago
@Katipunanasone horay! for filipinos im one too
rockleone121 2 months ago
@Katipunanasone you never won no war.
toomanyfires 1 month ago
@toomanyfires I meant to say is that the is how Filipinos won WWII with the help of our allies especially the United States
Katipunanasone 1 month ago
this looks so fun.
NOTATROLL90 3 months ago
escrima wins!!!! In Philippines it is called arnis
ChrisWindyBoy 3 months ago
El del Kendo no hace Kiai, no sala lo mejor del Kendo. El de esgrima no tiene la protección necesaria para pelear contra uno de Kendo, sino hace rato estaria en el piso.
AnuBiS927 3 months ago
The answer to the dual wielding thing is that a single weapon gives you a lot more control and raw power than dual wielding and a stronger "centerline" guard as opposed to the spaced guard given by dual wielding. If you've ever sparred with weapons and used a dual weapon like tonfa you've probably had the experience of a kendo guy or longsword fencer smashing his way through your guard. There are two ways to getting past a guard - wear it down (guys bigger than you favor this) or you slide in
Imhilion 3 months ago
fire your camera man
geordiekimbo2 4 months ago
eskrima wins....
turtleshell030889 4 months ago
Presuming the fighters have near equal skill, I just don't get how someone with a single blade would win as often as someone wielding two. You can't attack without an opening, but the double wielder can block and thrust/cut/chop/whatever at the same time. How would the double wielder not win most battles?
Redspy27 4 months ago
@Redspy27 I'm no expert or anything but I'd guess this much, 2 swords would be harder to control so if they have equal skill the person with one sword has the easier weapon and thus more control.
So it's probably better but much harder to use.
Also, using one sword would mean you can swing with both arms and get more power in a swing which could require the person using 2 swords to block with both of them.
Again, I'm not at all an expert these are just guesses.
cZard91 4 months ago
@cZard91 Actually, it's all about personal preference. There's really no question about what weapon you use-- because it's not about the weapon. It's the wielder. It's kinda like chopsticks versus spoon and fork. Some eat better with chopsticks while some struggle, vice versa with the spoon and fork. Hope this makes things a bit clearer.
PoppinJazzY 4 months ago
@PoppinJazzY kendo and eskrima are two totally different systems. It is not about personal preference, it is about tactics and philosophy. Kendo is a very shallow sport application of older kenjutsu with very specific rules and tactics. Eskrima is a combat system with a great deal of lattitude in application. Kendo is about mind/body harmony and all that jazz. Eskrima is about busting your head open with a stick. A much better "versus" comparison would be Eskrima/Kali vs. Kenjutsu.
SpartanCombativesGrp 3 months ago
@SpartanCombativesGrp There we go. Read what this person says.
Kruelable 3 months ago
i did escrema, and i looked at kendo, the kendo guy is very choppy in movement, and the escrema guy is not pushing him at all
Roagdohi1 4 months ago
I dont know what escrima is, but the kendoka is not very good, the shinai hes using is oddly short, and not wearing the proper top?
jimbopunk57 4 months ago
I dont know what escrima is, but the kendoka is not very good
jimbopunk57 4 months ago
escrima is originally known as "arnis" and thus originated from the Philippines...
espinojhamil 4 months ago
wanna learn real deadly eskrima watch wotbag kritters
aldenrichardjabonero 4 months ago
There have been very nice to watch how the various martial arts fighting each other.
=)
XPChiyokoXP 4 months ago
@Karathan Yup I was just watching this and thinking the same thing. We train with Bokkan and go for wrists and exposed undefended points first. Going to MijiJodan exposes the Kendo guy to lower body attacks unless he was drawing the Escrima guy in, kudos for him not taking the bait It looks like fun to put on the pads and really go for it, these guys are lucky to have the Dojo to do this in.
CFgroup1 4 months ago
To quote one of the Masters, it's not the style it's the stylist. Kudos to both fighters for getting in there and testing themselves.
pkadoman 4 months ago 8
These dudes are fucking disciplined and polished. I like this!
hadjy 5 months ago
May I remind you lot that comparing kendo to katana technique is quite foolish. Kendo is a sport where you aim for points. You don't try to cut people in half with a katana, you try to cut open vital parts like wrists. Therefore the escrima guy would have be quite careful not to leave his wrists open.
But I somehow like this fight even though I don't like martial sports much. Both are doing a nice job and clearly fighting for the hell of it. :)
Karathan 5 months ago
kendo suck i can kick his ass w/o a weapon lol
renzokuken00 5 months ago
@renzokuken00 lol i doubt that der just using kendo sticks.but if he was using a real samurai i bet you would run to your house and lock yourself up.lol
Okat0kat 5 months ago
@renzokuken00 you would get your hands and head beaten to a pulp thats a stupid way to disadvantage yourself it would be way too hard to close the distance
l3054 5 months ago
kendo should use his long reach to stab.... not lunge and get blocked & countered...
FlamingLion116 5 months ago
@Ulver27
I can't perform the techniques no, but I do know most of them and can evaluate a better method of combatting.
KORRG4pictures 5 months ago
@KORRG4pictures Guess its like the phrase 'its easy to call the score once the game is over' - i admire your honesty though.. Lots of people would just bullshit and explain how they're descendants of the last samurai master and taught chuck norris how to pwn faces.
Stiltonator 5 months ago
I give that to the escrima guy, although I saw a bout between an escima practitioner and a kendo practitioner and the kendo guy dominated.
I guess it depends on the person, and whether or not the escrima fighter can ward off the kendo sword and close the distance fast enough, or whether he just gets beaten repeatedly from a distance.
Great fight, very interesting.
Xadreos 5 months ago
The hell is this?
Not only does the kendo swordsman generally suck but even a freaking amateur knows not to use high stance when the enemy can block and counter faster than you can bring the sword down.
KORRG4pictures 5 months ago
@KORRG4pictures can you do better?
Ulver27 5 months ago
hmm.. actually iscrima/kali/arnis don't focus in forms we actually focus in defenses or practicality... and we hit in different directions... i don't practice kendo so i would like to anyone of why is it that the kendo guy is using only one direction? is kendo really use one direction?
secredkiller 5 months ago
@secredkiller I really must correct you sir... Escrima/kali/arnis focuses on forms... They are essential...
waltzmelancholy 4 months ago
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secredkiller 4 months ago
@waltzmelancholy it depends on what region you are in ... I'm Also an arnisador so i know some of it's backgrounds (as you know arnis has diff. styles). in anyo we focus in forms. but in real life situations we focuses in practicality and applications (proper stance and posture for effective hits) we don't care if we look silly or not whats important is, you will able to disable your opponent. and when i said form i was talking about good posing or show up. thanks for your comment/opinion .
secredkiller 4 months ago
@secredkiller
OIC... So we're actually in the same page... Yeah, it doesn't matter how silly you look but the point of the matter is that you know that's its effective and practical... What's your style btw?...
waltzmelancholy 3 months ago
@waltzmelancholy i use Modern Arnis but i prefer tradtional ones (for real sword fighting)... how about you?
secredkiller 3 months ago
@secredkiller I do the Buena Mano system of Mang Filomena Buena of LESKAS.... At pupugay rin po ako sau sir
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waltzmelancholy 2 months ago
@waltzmelancholy ako po ay nagpupugay sa inyo...
secredkiller 3 months ago
@waltzmelancholy or should i say we focus more in practicality rather that forms...
secredkiller 4 months ago
this is terrible
KidSamurai225 5 months ago
this is just BAD kendo... no feinting, no intention, no spirit, no nothing. Pure empty "kendo form", that's all. You can't even beat an unarmed fighter with that attitude. The escrima fighter isn't that good, but he's not thinking of form or anything, so he wins easily.
zsoujiro 5 months ago
Does anyone know how much these lessons cost?
Zeldanon 5 months ago
@Zeldanon too much
Aramis2000 5 months ago
Nice! I like seeing the escrima guy using angles to pick apart the kendo guy in those lock ups.
jeffdoeskungfu 5 months ago
no kiai? stupid video
MatheusRebelo 6 months ago
"Karate, Judo, and Taijiquan are all well and good, but I can guarantee you someone doing eskrima killed someone somewhere in Visayas today."
matchesburn 6 months ago
i wonder if they use real metal swords w/o armors. XD
Mercenary3331 6 months ago
The eskrima user is extremely good at parrying. Kinda like watching a boxer with long reach vs a boxer who bobs, weaves and counters,
thaloh 6 months ago
I think the kendo practitioner needs to practice clipping things with the very tip of his shinai, he has good reflexes and footwork, moves perfectly for the longer weapon and they saved his butt a number of times, but he needs to know where his weapon reach ends and keep his opponent just outside that, thrusting and shorter cuts at the face, neck and heart to try and keep his opponent from charging through his advantage area.
psychedashell 6 months ago
before this goes, im voting for escrima
great job to that guy! he actually knew how to use escrima against a one-bladed opponent, and knew how to block the obvious attacks from the ceiling with a roof block. Im very pleased with this video :P
KralleCR 6 months ago
this is original scrima - ! youtube.com/watch?v=lHWLaSAhfA4&feature=youtu.be
wilmarc123 7 months ago
This single bladed surely fights, his defensive techniques are efficient but when he attacks the dual bladed have more advantage, in my opinion. The dual bladed moves too much but in exchange he uses short blades which actualy make his movements favored by speed. However his attacks are 'predictable'.
hurge3 7 months ago
If there isn't kiai, it's not kendo.
kabatozankyou 7 months ago 24
@kabatozankyou Damn straight... The kendoka could've probably have gone for a tsuki... And tried the other kamaes from the kendo kata. Perhaps it'd help.
jung567 4 months ago
@kabatozankyou did you see any fumikomi either?
TheTommyKay 3 months ago
lol 2 faggots with sticks
MegaGankstar 7 months ago
@MegaGankstar lol one faggot with a computer
hidan227 6 months ago
Kendo has to many rules. If you practice old kenjutsu you can win because you don't have the rules of kendo in your head and can actually turn it into a knock down drag out fight.
helvenator 7 months ago
What I do is combine the discipline of kendo with the actual techniques of old kenjutsu. If you are fighting in something like this kenjutsu is much better since there were no rules in a real fight.
helvenator 7 months ago
fire the cameraman ... :D
MyL0LHUN 7 months ago
My escrima master said that you should treat the weapon not as weapon but as a part of your body.. That might be what their lacking at but they're still good..
alkali102 8 months ago
I do kendo but escrima looks like a lot of fun. the escrima guy doesnt represents the sport too well. Always retreating and never taking the first step. If escrima represents real sword fight like some of the people say, then he would lose. He would be out of breath, be backed into a corner and killed. The other videos I saw were much more agressive due to the dual short sword setup. Anyway it looks like a lot of fun I would like to try it, very intense and aggressive, almost karate like
LUVDELUXXXE 8 months ago
@LUVDELUXXXE well machetes are not that heavy certainly not as heavy as a katana,and i think they train enough to where they wont get tired after a couple of strikes, truth is you weill not know till they do it.
rudenko54 7 months ago
I do kendo but escrima looks like a lot of fun. the escrima guy doesnt represents the sport too well. Always retreating and never taking the first step. If escrima represents real sword fight like some of the people say, then he would lose. He would be out of breath, be backed into a corner and killed. The other videos I saw were much more agressive due to the dual short sword setup. Anyway it looks like a lot of fun I would like to try it, very intense and aggressive, almost karate like.
LUVDELUXXXE 8 months ago
see why two handed sword is sucks?..although it has superiority in reach and power, it also has limited angle because the two hand that grip the sword and that means predictable movement,I my self is silat practicioner that familiar with golok and Iwll say that not only golok but all machete familiy (like the Dao of kungfu) is more fluid in motion and maneuver increasing the unpredictable angle of attacks
MrSolitude14 8 months ago
The eskrimador did very well I must say =). however, a few blocks are missing from his attack set, none the less well done to both.
GTSreviewer 8 months ago
The guy with the shinai is really good at analyzing the best technique, however he is not sure, not confident about the technique he chose.
Jeffrey675 8 months ago
with equally skilled practitioners, me thinks filipino eskrima, using dual canes, wins out :3 mabuhay :D
GuyTakashi73 8 months ago
Maybe, if the kendoka used his kiai the Escrima fighter might drop his Escrimas (? oO)
YaoiHeroine 8 months ago
If you are a Escrima fighter, you find the way how to control your enemy. If the Escrima fighter finds it the enemy is dead in just 1 to 3 strikes
Etihad25Phil 8 months ago
I'm really digging the technique of the shinai wielder. It seems pretty spot on. :)
Cagedand3nRaged 8 months ago
both are not masters of their art.
the explorer Magellan was killedt by a Native using escrima technique (yes. it's an ancient filipino martial art form) but using a bolo instead of sticks. they waited for the spanish in waist-deep water, putting the armor clad spaniards at a disadvantage, thus leveling the odds. their heavy long swords never did stand a chance. the natives aimed their short stabbing bolos at the exposed body parts.
roycosing 8 months ago
IN THE OLD DAYS IF YOU MADE A MISTAKE YOU WOULD DIE , NOT LOSE
JUKEBOXX1990 8 months ago
...the escrima guy doesnt know his art. u NEVER get one hit and stop. always keep going!
sunfiredrop 8 months ago
I always saw escrimas as tactically better. They're a lot faster and strike multiple places at once. Great for simultaneous defense/offense. A sword user has to be able to move faster than the sticks were moving and use the range of his weapon to strike first. This is still difficult because of the escrimas ability to jam swords and move into range. Though I've seen it work both ways and I love swords just as much as I love escrimas.
uuumdm 8 months ago
@uuumdm I feel the need to point out that while escrima needs to essentially bludgeon the other person multiple times, a sword need only score a single halfway decent strike.
Also as you can see from the example above, escrima is much more tiring and not well suited for a drawn out encounter.
To it's advantage though, escrima practitioners can pick their weapons up off the ground while sword fighters require swords to take advantage of their art.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
gymnistico 8 months ago
@gymnistico I considered that actually. Only problem is 500 characters didn't allow me to say it. I'd say it only takes a couple good strikes with an escrima to knock out an opponent but that's all relative.
uuumdm 8 months ago
@gymnistico
thing is, you have to understand that the rattan sticks used in escrima are in place of blades, just like bokken or shinai are used in place of an actual katana. and on the point of drawn out encounters, what exactly are you referreing to? you realize alot of what is being taught to the military and law enforcement is escrima (particularly knife fighting) because of its efficiency. as much as i love kendo, i know i'd rather learn escrima when it comes to modern self defense.
strikesubmit 8 months ago
@strikesubmit you know FMA also uses swords, the sticks dont replace them as such, thats just were people start, and it wouldent be to hard to use stick techniques with a sword,
raysetiger285 8 months ago
@raysetiger285
i agree 100%. its just that some people have this misconception, either from just watching a handful of videos on Youtube, or out of sheer unfamiliarity of the style, that Arnis/Escrima only uses rattan sticks.
strikesubmit 8 months ago
is kendo similiar or equal to kenjutsu?
dombombed 9 months ago
@dombombed kendo is the martial arts of sword fighting. Kenjutsu is the actual sword fighting.
joji64theninja 9 months ago
@joji64theninja "Kenjutsu is the actual sword fighting.". Kenjutsu is older than kendo. In fact, the Kendo has its origin in kenjutsu. The school of kenjutsu "katori shinto ryu" has more than 600 years. The kendo is more sports and has more regulations while the kenjutsu is focused in practical techniques, necessary to conquer in the old war.
donbarredora00 7 months ago
@dombombed Kendo is similar to Kenjutsu. Mostly it's a competitive version though the katas are very similar. Kenjutsu practices more advanced techniques and a wider variety of striking areas. I could be wrong but in Kendo I think they just practice very fast strikes to the head, neck and body.
uuumdm 8 months ago
0:19
Camera operator getting/giving a blow job.
AlabamaSoldier 9 months ago 113
@AlabamaSoldier LMAO
NovaMetroid 3 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel kali is probably i think, one of the newest martial arts in FMA
copypacercopypacer 9 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel kali is not a old filipino martial art. kali is rather a term populurized in the usa and brought over to the philppines and the "mother art"
copypacercopypacer 9 months ago
@TheSchmidl777 Escrima arose from Kali, which is much older. Escrima is a bastardized spanish word used to describe fighting with Espada Y Daga (sword and dagger), which the Filipino people loved. But their martial arts have always used sticks as a substitute for knives to allow for "safe" training.
ironwhim42 9 months ago
@ironwhim42 wtf, eskrima is much older than kali, old filipino martial arts were silat
copypacercopypacer 9 months ago
Not use "TSUKI"?
shinzywada 9 months ago
@shinzywada inadequate protection on the escrima guy's neck and/or lack of experience from kendoka?
icrakisei 9 months ago
kendo is not to be trifled with
Jonbino 9 months ago
The fact that Escrima does so well here isn't surprising. Anyone whose read the book of five rings will know that one of the greatest Japanese swordsmen Miyamoto Musashi used both his katana and his personal sword. Having two swords might be more complicated but in theory it gives you more options.
j6cb 10 months ago
Johan K/Stick VS Johan L/Bokken
BudaTomu 10 months ago
nice fight. kendo guy seems out of focus. but still good to watch
donputh 10 months ago
@donputh truth and also the guy who represents the Eskrima seems to be very good
BudaTomu 10 months ago
the dude that is representing kendo is poorly trained a real kendo master would own escrima anyday.
amessenger4god78 10 months ago
@amessenger4god78
It depends....
Everybody has a weakness...
francotheidontknow25 10 months ago
@amessenger4god78 lol you should see your posts 2 years from now. then you will realize how silly your generalization is.
thescheminggenius 10 months ago
@thescheminggenius no im only stating the facts
amessenger4god78 10 months ago
@amessenger4god78 Right I'm sure you are. lol
Okay just for the sake of arguments, please state your facts and evidences on how you came up with that crazy generalization.
thescheminggenius 10 months ago
I'd love to see arnis vs nittou ryu kendo
wanderer1125 10 months ago
Everything is sword fighting has a flow
The smaller swords are to be fast with jerking stirkes and the other was to be more on defensive
kairiXII 10 months ago
skurwiel wymiata tymi patykami ;D dobry jest ! :)
kubiczek20 10 months ago 2
i practice eskrima myself and i have NO idea about kendo techniques...but with the way the eskrima guy is waving his sticks, i think a sudden straight thrust to the chest or face or throat would've caught him off guard.
blacksheepver69 11 months ago
On speaking with a little hottie who was once the under 18 Japanese champ of Kendo (hi Sakichan), its not actually a fighting art but a more watered down vertion of it, for e.g. there's no attacks below the belt, where as Escrima is a complete & very raw fighting style.
the26thhour 11 months ago