Obermann is quite right in just about everything he says here. But, a two party system is an insult to the notion of true democracy. It's the absolute minimum number of parties that a system requires to call itself democratic. Plus, it seems that for quite some time, America has actually been under the rule of a one party system that merely pretends that the people have a choice in who leads them. Nowadays, an American can either vote for Very Bad or Even Worse.
Ah yes Freedom of speech says riskyscot. The Patriot Act say I. In addition, you may think you have freedom of speech, access to information - but only what you are allowed to know about by 'the ones in charge' . You must agree that the U.S is generally inward looking. But what really scares the rest of us is the God thing that appears to have a majority in American politics and domestic issues! Is trex554 a typical or minority?
Look at it this way: Iraq and Iran have been at war for years. Iran has a nuclear program. Weapons grade or no, do you think Iran's nemesis Iraq will sit by and watch as Iran developed a nuclear program? If Iran got nukes, and saddam was in power, he would have to build WMDs to protect Iraq. That conflict would destabilize the region and threaten the rest of the world, whether you want to admit that or not. The world with saddam is a different and more dangerous world than the world without him
Olberman has his "battery plugged in backwards." Chamberlin was an appeaser, which is exactly what Olberman is promoting. He "knows that Iraq is not a threat to the world," despite past invasions of neighbors and all sorts of evidence that can suggest otherwise. Let me also say that the nazi government fabricated its own lies for the people.
And America hasn't invaded coutries in the past? Vietnam? That was all about fighting communism. How about Korea? Iraq is just another country you can add to that list. Iraq had no army left after Desert Storm, they posed no threat. They never found the supposed Chemical and Nuclear weapons which was the main reason for going there. And later the Government ADMITS to NEVER having ANY EVIDENCE of the weapons even being there. ANd our government doesn't fabricate lies? Right.
America has always shown pure hubris and arrogance in their foreign policy, and now even in their domestic treatment for the benefit of few, in the name of democracy. Panem et circenses.... and the rockets red glare make us all blinded
Thus, bread and circuses, is a phrase now used to deplore a population so distracted with entertainment and personal pleasures (sometimes by design of those in power) that they no longer value the civic virtues and bow to civil authority with unquestioned obedience...
But you come to this site for the political insight, right?
Correction: If you question the government---and then accept that those in power are all-knowing and don't make mistakes---then, you are as bad as the people who let tragedies happen.
Donny R. must go! Along with GW and Dick.
[And for those Europeans of you who are "relieved" to see that not all Americans are idiots--fuck you! Don't be so ignorant, yo.]
excuse me? It was NOT QUESTIONING the government that allowed the holocaust to happen.
You need to learn your history, don't just consume it off the TV. And you should read the declaration of independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
It is your DUTY to question the government, if you wish to remain free.
This is the most powerful critique I have even seen come out of the US. I'm surprised it was allowed to be broadcast.As good as our George Galloway's destruction of the Senate Committee. To zachpope18, you have given me hope that not all US citizens are narrow minded, red necked, inwardly looking, nationilistic airheads. Yeh I'll brace myself for the ensuing barrage.Bye the way, apologees for our misguided PM Tony Blair, he does not represent anywhere near the majority here in the UK.
And Bush does not represent anything near the majority of Americans feelings on the war. My only hope is that he leaves office like Rumsfeld and we can get our country back in order. I think it's a major misconception that Americans are war hungry nationalists, but we're not. Well, atleast the majority of the people are not but the world only sees the actions of our government and puts the same views on everyone in the country.
it was allowed to be broadcast because we have a certain thing called freedom of speech. something people in the middle east do not have. You may have those rights taken away in the UK too, so next time you villify the u.s. remember they defend your right to critisize as much as they do to praise them.
Keith has as much right to read what someone put on a teleprompter as I do to write this, but I'm curious to see who he wants to see take Rumsfelds place. He doesn't mention that. Does he have a better person in mind?? THATS what I'd like to know. Otherwise, it's just complaining. And the very person you bash helps provide the blanket of freedom you so soundly sleep under every night.
its a very torn and thin "blanket of freedom" and thats like saying if you call your dad a fascist you should have an idea of who to replace him with, otherwise you're just complaining? a fact is a fact, now give me one good reason why rumsfeld should hold his position..
Look, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest w/you. We live in a different world today as opposed to pre-9/11. I don't think any of us posting here could begin to comprehend what Rumsfelds job is like or the shit he's dealing with. The reason I like him is that he doesn't take any guff from anyone. He feels he's doing what needs to be done. And he knows that he's not going to please everyone. Are you doubting he has our best interest in mind??
ding ding ding! we have a winner! NO HE DOES NOT HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND!
Go explore the internet a bit, find out all the lies and deceit that come from this guy. Here's a hint -- He's on the board of ABB. Find out who sold reactors to North Korea, ABB. Or what happened when he was president of Searle.
Speaking as a non-citizen it is such a releaf to here such sentiments spoken with an American accent. We all know Bush is an idiot side-show but the Nazi-style neo-cons that write his script need exposing and holding accountable for stealing your country. No More Bushit!!
I came of age during the Nixon/Watergate years. Now my children come of age during the second coming of the most thieving, arrogant, lying and self serving administration since then. I could have forgiven the American electorate for its retail apathy the first time Bush got elected. It's far more difficult during this second term. This country, as good as it is, should be ashamed of itself.
Olbermann is a fool, talking about shit that happend in the 30' has nothing to do with what is happening today. If Olbermann's canidate Kerry or Gore was in their we would be getting hit in our streets over an over again looking to compromise with terrorist?
You are the fool. History is quite relevant. You are the fool buying into the campaign of fear being pushed by this corrupt administration. Terrorists are criminals - you can't fight criminals with Stealth Bombers and Destroyers, so why are we spending billions on those? America is LESS SAFE because of Bush, no more people hate us than ever. He has done everything Bin Laden wanted and more - the war in Iraq is his crowning achievement.
It is the easy road to bash those in power. But, has Olbermann come up with a better alternative? Olbermann never seemed to criticize the Clinton's when they where bombing Serbs and killing innocent people where was the criticism of the administration with Sandy Berger, Cohen, Albright or Tennant who couldn't pull the trigger to get Usama? A lot of Monday morning quarterbacking when we already committed to a war.
Thank you God for Keith Olbermann! Everyone with a W sticker on their car should be forced to watch this and listen to the voice of reason amidst hollering fools.
Obermann is quite right in just about everything he says here. But, a two party system is an insult to the notion of true democracy. It's the absolute minimum number of parties that a system requires to call itself democratic. Plus, it seems that for quite some time, America has actually been under the rule of a one party system that merely pretends that the people have a choice in who leads them. Nowadays, an American can either vote for Very Bad or Even Worse.
Hervorragend604 4 years ago
Ah yes Freedom of speech says riskyscot. The Patriot Act say I. In addition, you may think you have freedom of speech, access to information - but only what you are allowed to know about by 'the ones in charge' . You must agree that the U.S is generally inward looking. But what really scares the rest of us is the God thing that appears to have a majority in American politics and domestic issues! Is trex554 a typical or minority?
daveriba 5 years ago
well put
leitermann 5 years ago
Look at it this way: Iraq and Iran have been at war for years. Iran has a nuclear program. Weapons grade or no, do you think Iran's nemesis Iraq will sit by and watch as Iran developed a nuclear program? If Iran got nukes, and saddam was in power, he would have to build WMDs to protect Iraq. That conflict would destabilize the region and threaten the rest of the world, whether you want to admit that or not. The world with saddam is a different and more dangerous world than the world without him
HectorHeadgear 5 years ago
Olberman has his "battery plugged in backwards." Chamberlin was an appeaser, which is exactly what Olberman is promoting. He "knows that Iraq is not a threat to the world," despite past invasions of neighbors and all sorts of evidence that can suggest otherwise. Let me also say that the nazi government fabricated its own lies for the people.
HectorHeadgear 5 years ago
And America hasn't invaded coutries in the past? Vietnam? That was all about fighting communism. How about Korea? Iraq is just another country you can add to that list. Iraq had no army left after Desert Storm, they posed no threat. They never found the supposed Chemical and Nuclear weapons which was the main reason for going there. And later the Government ADMITS to NEVER having ANY EVIDENCE of the weapons even being there. ANd our government doesn't fabricate lies? Right.
Charlie8417 5 years ago
Great article - but some factual mistakes. There has not been an ENGLISH GOVERNMENT for more than 200 years. It´s a British Government .
KlatuBeradaNikto 5 years ago
Creitien for presdent so he can swidnle the military bidget into his own pocket.. HAHAHHA
Formermom 5 years ago
Olbermann for president!
vnwecnewnweoin 5 years ago
America has always shown pure hubris and arrogance in their foreign policy, and now even in their domestic treatment for the benefit of few, in the name of democracy. Panem et circenses.... and the rockets red glare make us all blinded
daniesza 5 years ago
Thus, bread and circuses, is a phrase now used to deplore a population so distracted with entertainment and personal pleasures (sometimes by design of those in power) that they no longer value the civic virtues and bow to civil authority with unquestioned obedience...
But you come to this site for the political insight, right?
jbeamguy 5 years ago
Correction: If you question the government---and then accept that those in power are all-knowing and don't make mistakes---then, you are as bad as the people who let tragedies happen.
Donny R. must go! Along with GW and Dick.
[And for those Europeans of you who are "relieved" to see that not all Americans are idiots--fuck you! Don't be so ignorant, yo.]
jon123dotcom 5 years ago
If you question the government.. your as bad as the people who let the Halocause happen! : /
Powerfacemaster 5 years ago
huh? i think you wrote that wrong
shesgoneagain 5 years ago
holocaust
BikingWithColdWater 5 years ago
excuse me? It was NOT QUESTIONING the government that allowed the holocaust to happen.
You need to learn your history, don't just consume it off the TV. And you should read the declaration of independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
It is your DUTY to question the government, if you wish to remain free.
PhilLesh69 5 years ago
This is the most powerful critique I have even seen come out of the US. I'm surprised it was allowed to be broadcast.As good as our George Galloway's destruction of the Senate Committee. To zachpope18, you have given me hope that not all US citizens are narrow minded, red necked, inwardly looking, nationilistic airheads. Yeh I'll brace myself for the ensuing barrage.Bye the way, apologees for our misguided PM Tony Blair, he does not represent anywhere near the majority here in the UK.
daveriba 5 years ago
And Bush does not represent anything near the majority of Americans feelings on the war. My only hope is that he leaves office like Rumsfeld and we can get our country back in order. I think it's a major misconception that Americans are war hungry nationalists, but we're not. Well, atleast the majority of the people are not but the world only sees the actions of our government and puts the same views on everyone in the country.
Charlie8417 5 years ago
it was allowed to be broadcast because we have a certain thing called freedom of speech. something people in the middle east do not have. You may have those rights taken away in the UK too, so next time you villify the u.s. remember they defend your right to critisize as much as they do to praise them.
rickyscot 5 years ago
This is pure genius in commment, spread the word.
Eriksz 5 years ago
Nice to hear something like that coming from the American media.
PeterSchade 5 years ago
REPUBLICANS STRONG ON TERROR
That is strong on creating, manipulating and feeding off terror!
saadasim 5 years ago
Keith has as much right to read what someone put on a teleprompter as I do to write this, but I'm curious to see who he wants to see take Rumsfelds place. He doesn't mention that. Does he have a better person in mind?? THATS what I'd like to know. Otherwise, it's just complaining. And the very person you bash helps provide the blanket of freedom you so soundly sleep under every night.
Just my .02$
jbeamguy 5 years ago
its a very torn and thin "blanket of freedom" and thats like saying if you call your dad a fascist you should have an idea of who to replace him with, otherwise you're just complaining? a fact is a fact, now give me one good reason why rumsfeld should hold his position..
hanabird1126 5 years ago
Look, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest w/you. We live in a different world today as opposed to pre-9/11. I don't think any of us posting here could begin to comprehend what Rumsfelds job is like or the shit he's dealing with. The reason I like him is that he doesn't take any guff from anyone. He feels he's doing what needs to be done. And he knows that he's not going to please everyone. Are you doubting he has our best interest in mind??
jbeamguy 5 years ago
ding ding ding! we have a winner! NO HE DOES NOT HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND!
Go explore the internet a bit, find out all the lies and deceit that come from this guy. Here's a hint -- He's on the board of ABB. Find out who sold reactors to North Korea, ABB. Or what happened when he was president of Searle.
PhilLesh69 5 years ago
Well, there you go. You got what you wanted. He's gone. Now we'll see what happens. TBC...
jbeamguy 5 years ago
Speaking as a non-citizen it is such a releaf to here such sentiments spoken with an American accent. We all know Bush is an idiot side-show but the Nazi-style neo-cons that write his script need exposing and holding accountable for stealing your country. No More Bushit!!
barbian 5 years ago
This man is brilliant. If only a few others in his field would dare be so bright and brave we might have a fighting chance at some change.
gabriellegg 5 years ago
The preceding opinion was from Zach Popes dad, not Zach Pope. See how that works? When you're wrong, you say you were wrong.
zachpope18 5 years ago
I came of age during the Nixon/Watergate years. Now my children come of age during the second coming of the most thieving, arrogant, lying and self serving administration since then. I could have forgiven the American electorate for its retail apathy the first time Bush got elected. It's far more difficult during this second term. This country, as good as it is, should be ashamed of itself.
zachpope18 5 years ago
I've never heard Keith Olbermann talk like this! Unbelievable. Way to go!
crlnevada 5 years ago
I thought he was a sportscaster-KTLA Channel 5?! Now he's a bombastic MSNBC correspondent standing on a bully pulpit...as bad as Rumsfeld
1neversaynever1 5 years ago
Or Bill O'Reilly. Where was he before Fox News Channel? Entertainment Tonight or Entertainment Weekly or something like that.
PhilLesh69 5 years ago
Bravo!
ZoingZoom 5 years ago
Olbermann is a fool, talking about shit that happend in the 30' has nothing to do with what is happening today. If Olbermann's canidate Kerry or Gore was in their we would be getting hit in our streets over an over again looking to compromise with terrorist?
trex554 5 years ago
You are the fool. History is quite relevant. You are the fool buying into the campaign of fear being pushed by this corrupt administration. Terrorists are criminals - you can't fight criminals with Stealth Bombers and Destroyers, so why are we spending billions on those? America is LESS SAFE because of Bush, no more people hate us than ever. He has done everything Bin Laden wanted and more - the war in Iraq is his crowning achievement.
chris00perry 5 years ago
It is the easy road to bash those in power. But, has Olbermann come up with a better alternative? Olbermann never seemed to criticize the Clinton's when they where bombing Serbs and killing innocent people where was the criticism of the administration with Sandy Berger, Cohen, Albright or Tennant who couldn't pull the trigger to get Usama? A lot of Monday morning quarterbacking when we already committed to a war.
trex554 5 years ago
Thank you God for Keith Olbermann! Everyone with a W sticker on their car should be forced to watch this and listen to the voice of reason amidst hollering fools.
alpal 5 years ago
THIS MAN TALKS TO ME...deep inside...TRUE AND HARD...great words.
scamp1985 5 years ago
one word---excellent!
mnoble61 5 years ago