It's 2011 and people still believe in something they can't see or touch? Don't u realize it's a made up story. Why would god let priest rape little boys in his name. Yeah I know it's cause we have free will. What a joke kill me god if u are real.........,,,,,...gee nothing happend not even a itchy head. Not picking on the fools who believe I just can't c how they do when science proves there isn't. We came from the apes
@Fangtorn Minor correction, we did come from apes - and we still are apes. Though the apes we're decended from were different to modern apes, and no longer exist as such.
@AngeloNiklis Yeah but religion gives you ideas like stoning people to death, burning down cities and killing the women and children except the virgins so you could break them in. Ah the beauty of the bible...
hahaa, I wish we had family guy where I live. To be fair, a lot of things have been done in the name of religion, that actually haven't had anything to do with religion. Power hungry people waging wars and using the spreading of religion as an excuse to justify their actions.
blaming religion for war is like to blame wapeon for murder. Afterall, religion is only a Tool created by mankind and its up to us to decide how to use it. To archive inner peace or to blind people for war. Now I really had enough oft those ignorant Atheist and low educated Christan shouting at each other. Shut up and enjoy this video, for its just a comedy...
People didnt get along fine without christianity for thousands of years.......We had war and violence without religion. If all religion were to disappear today we would still have war and violence and genocide and terrorism. Look, im an athiest, but religion isnt the cause of all problems.
@yelloyo true, but religion has still historically caused some violence, and thats enough for closed minded ignorant people who think they're better than anyone else just because they are athiests to ridicule people who have faith. i say this as an atheist myself, just an open minded one, as are you clearly. on the other hand this was pretty fucking funny haha
You don't seriously think that Christianity was the first religion, do you? I agree in that religion isn't the source of ALL conflict (but it is a source of a lot) but there were plenty of religiously-motivated conflicts well before Christianity even existed.
Stupid video, and a gross oversimplification of things. Religion is not the source of all conflict. It is simply another means humans use to justify conflict.
@OptimalElement I know what his name is. Failure associates with many groups across the spectrum, not just creationists ( although they have much more than their fair share of fail, admittedly). Thunderflop, however, isn't exactly completely free of fail though.
@Moussyed Actually, they are on to something. While religion isn't the source for ALL conflict, I think that religion is the cause for most of all conflicts.
@Moussyed u win retarded comment of the year... do you watch any comedy? do you like some of those comedies? does you liking something automatically mean you agree everything contained in the comedy is factual? If so - I hope you don't like futurama.
@torrid426 ... do you even know how the troop build up for the first crusades came about? it was the vikings who start to attack certain areas of the holy roman empire for gold and wealth. and in responce a troop build up came about. and the knights started trouble for the empire, so the pope to get all the chips in line started a war. you look at the most simplistic aspects of an issue thiking that makes your point acceptable it doesn't cuz you dont know what your talking about. idiot...
The first crusade was a military expedition by Western Christianity to regain the Holy Lands taken in the Muslim conquest of the Levant. - this one ?
The viking raise ended in 1085 the first crusade was 1096–1099 . Most people died in their early thirties. unless all of 100,000 knights were 15 the last time the vikings attacked most of those troops were dead.
@torrid426 your an idiot by your own stats work towards my point. so vikings stopped attacking then 10 years later we were in a war. im right, and 30 is just what they estimate. and if it wasnt for the vikings the church would not have needed troops. o ya and that was kinda a war that was not connected with religion
You are fucking stupid. The vikings believed you have to die in battle to go to heaven. Not let yourself die but fight your hardest and be bested that way. Kinda religious there.
The vikings were also sacking churches and leaving settlements near by alone. Why would they do that ? could not have possibly been to kill priest . Maybe they just had a special hate for pedophiles.
@torrid426 wow i really didnt want to put the time in to own your bitch ass but since you insist, why not. ok moron it goes like this vikings would attack and pillage then leave. if dying was so big why didnt they just wait for troops to show up? and back in that time the churches held all the gold and money thats why they attack them in the first place. not to kill priests. but to know that information you would have to think out side you sad little athiest box you live in, you Fucking Idiot!!
The vikings did not have gold as part of their money system. It was to them as chrome is to us, shiny but not very valuable. Silver on the other hand was useful for religious and piratical means. It was the moon metal and it detected poison.
The vikings targeted the priest.y would kill the priest
You are just a worthless little cunt who desperately wants to be right but you are to stupid to actually learn.
@torrid426 wow the fact is, the facts are on my side your moronic fuck. i mean are you just making most of this shit up hoping i would know better? cuz vikings did take gold and attack for it you fucking idiot. and why would they kill priests? are you honestly that fucking moronic? cuz they would either kill or take slaves out of the people they attack in churchs and other areas you idiot. are you done or do you wat me to keep making you my bitch
Historians Rudolf Simek and Bruno Dumézil theorise that the Viking attacks may have been in response to the spread of Christianity among pagan peoples see oxford dot edu and BBC
Clearly much easier to get 15 priest from behind a wall than to round up 60 men and women in a undefended town.
806AD Vikings "burned and demolished, killed abbot and monks and all that they found there. Why kill slaves ?
@torrid426 what? monks arnt priest... and i was talking about the reason for the troop build up in the holy roman empire, not anything else, but your a moronic fuck so i would expect you to understand that you fucking idiot... but again you stupid worthless cunt the wealth was in the churches not the fucking town that the only reason the attack one more then the other... y o u i d i o t ! !
Monk = a man who is a member of a monastic order . Priest can be monks and priest at the same time but you are too stupid to understand that. We have 500 char only so some shortcuts have to be taken.
You are in the section of stupid that is so worthless you actually think you are smart.
So if the Holy roman empire only built troops to defend against the vikings why Sack of Rome (1527) ? How old were those troops ?
@torrid426 ive already made my points that i now have to repeat, cuz your to fucking stupid to look at what i all ready wrote.
''So if the Holy roman empire only built troops to defend against the vikings why Sack of Rome (1527) ? How old were those troops ?'' "and i was talking about the reason for the troop build up in the holy roman empire, not anything else, but your a moronic fuck so i would expect you to understand that you fucking idiot"
@torrid426 i'll name more than one. vietnam, korean war, first gulf war etc.. Wars are fought for various reasons land, resources, ideological conflict and yes also religion as well. But to say it's just religion is intellectually dishonest.
Is it intellectually dis honest ? I'm saying there are at least 9 religious wars to every non religious war and that religion plays a motivational part in every war, if even just to be rid of it.
If you are counting Vietnam and the gulf we can include things that are not wars in religious violence, The 2000 year genocide in the Yugoslavia region that had a brief lull Under Tito.
@Moussyed Don't forget the Russian Revolution, the War of 1812, the Napoleonic Wars, the American Revolution, the American Civil War, the Great War (World War I) , and be fair with time line wars, the Trojan War, and the Great conquest the the Mongols Waged
@Moussyed@Moussyed what a petty sad little piss ant you are. This is funny, if for any reason because of it's obvious absurdity. If you're going to be a little cunt faced troll, why not challenge Thunderfoot to a taped debate. It's quite obvious that from that point on the word "fail" shall be graced upon the end of your name. Ass
@Moussyed it is funny but you are also right in saying religion is not the only thing that causes conflict, plus its has been simplified to a huge extent
OK, whatever idiot is posting completely unrelated replies to this video, YOU ARE GIVING ME YOUR SHIT IN MY RECOMMENDATIONS, I DON"T CARE ABOUT WATCHING SMALL SPANISH CHILDREN SITTING ON THE TOILET (it's the thumbnail)
@zachariassadams1984 your wrong to think that a social construct that existed to push social evolution was the root of all conflic is retarded. unless u take the same position on the invention of how farming caused conflict with hunter gather societies. all social progress cause conflict with the previous stat quo so to say religion is the main cuz is only trying to push an agenda of your belief, what ever it may be.... and thats just a logical perspective of humanity
@AJAXxxTheHumanist I do agree that progress creates conflict. However, I view that as a result of people disliking change. I do think that change should be carefully examined before being adopted, but that doesn't mean reject it because it's different. I suppose I would be more honest in saying "I think religion causes conflict when it interferes with progress". I base that idea on a video of a priest claiming that science was bad because it was always changing, opposite of the bible
If you actually payed attention in History 101, you'd know that religious conflicts didn't start until we came out of the "hunter-gatherer" phase, and that was because of abuse within the churches that formed.
Humans (like all animals) will kill one another, it's basic nature.
If that pack on the other side of the valley has all the food, and my mate and offspring are starving to death, I'm going to go over there and bite out the throat of the other pack's alpha male. So I can bring the food back and feed my family, because they are MORE important to me than other members of my species. That's how it's always worked with ALL lifeforms on Earth.
@PTNLemay Actually, you are dead wrong. Every species that behaved this way in the past is now extinct because there is no group for protection or support. Even piranhas, hyenas and vultures do not kill each other for this exact reason.
If you look at the reasons for a human to kill another human, religion comes up far too often. Religion makes good people do bad things for irrational reasons, and it makes me wonder why it is still around. Have we never learned anything of it?
Actually... no. Some animals will seriously harm those in their own pack just to prove dominance. But in regards to other packs/herds/groups, it might as well be a different species, they will fight to kill when they have to. Wolves, tigers, bears, hell even herbivores will fight each other off ferociously when food is scarce, or when it's mating season...
Animals kill, humans are animals, we've been beating each-other's brains out long before we invented religion.
A quick and easy way of showing how animals-murder is known to exist is to simply look up "Siblicide". That's animals killing within the immediate family group, it's well known and documented.
I know, it's just an extreme (but still real world) example. You all act like nature is perfectly peaceful and happy, and that animals live together like in the Lion King, and that we sinister men and our religion are the source for all evil in this world. When in truth, "evil" is a hugely relative thing, and all animals do kill.
Studies have shown that in certain conditions, even rabbits will fight to the death over things like territory, food, and mates.
As one who loves history, I must alert you to a startling fact; very few of the major wars were actually about religion. WWI, WWII, Vietnam, American Civil War, Punic Wars, Alexander's Conquests, Napoleonic Era etc were all about money, resources and land.
I'm not disputing that religious disagreements have led to war, but to say that religion "creates all conflict" is an absurd, hyperbolic embellishment.
@aaronk1994 Whilst Religion sometimes isn't the cause, alot of the times (note: I'm saying alot, not all of the times :S) religion is one of the things that fuels the conflict.
@aaronk1994 The Crusades, The Holocaust, The Spanish Inquisition, The Conquistadors in South America, and Islam's Spread by sword & tongue from the Arabian Peninsula to the islands of South East Asia.
I understand your dispute that religion doesn't start all conflicts, but neither has it helped prevent them. More often the words of peace are only preached after acts of violence. On the global scale religion is not benign, it is cancerous. It manages to latch onto any conflict that sets us apart
@Ultimatelordkai What is this supposed to be?Do you think listing historical events in fragmented sentence form is an argument? And the Holocaust? Give me a break.
Though tragic and regrettable, the items on my list dwarf the crusades, inquisition etc.
Yes, religion has prevented conflicts. Case and point: the WWI Christmas Truce of 1914.
@aaronk1994 Regrettably I did have to cut out the preface of my list of events to keep the comment under the character limit but of course I would have expected someone of your intelligence level to get the point I was getting at.
And yes, The Holocaust, It happened, It's probably my weakest argument on the list, but it was still religiously influenced.
And I will agree the I did overlook the Christmas Truce, but does peace for a few days really mean anything in the scope of a four year war.
@Ultimatelordkai Actually the holocaust was racial. Even if every jew in the world gave up religion and became atheist the NSDAP would still have sought their removal.
@skegpit True it was geared towards Jews as a race rather than Jews as a religion, but the ideology of Jews as a race at that time stemmed from the stereotypes about the way people of Jewish faith treated others of their faith.The more I think about it the more I regret listing the Holocaust, since it is only weakly relevant, even towards the point I was trying to make in the first place.
bull shit video any one who has spent any time looking at the progression of human culture knows that a belief in something "besides us" has been a huge part of our growth. thats why certain humans buried there dead in a certain way even before they had written language religion was and is a huge part of our social evolution
@036hugo its culture... like i dont think atheism is evolutionary component of our society and religion is a board topic so i do think it does have a point but meh thanks for the comment
@zachariasadams1984 to say religion creates all conflict is fucking dumb when some form or another of religion has existed even before we could record conflict between people.... my point is its a dumb video or a dumb title
@AJAXxxTheHumanist hmm? some forms of religion existed before the record of conflicts? Great, which means religions create conflict is still a possible statement given your argument.. Dude I really hope you are not religious, otherwise the stereotype is pretty much sealed.
@SoutheGarden you stupid fuck, the fact that religion has existed previous to history does not means conflict purely existed with religion. if your that moronic that tell me about WWI, WWII, or Homo Sapiens vs. Neanderthals cuz those are two groups of many, who through time had different perspectives on the viewership of life. and if thats how you define religion then atheist is a religious perspective.... so you ignore that for the benefit of your own argument.... which makes you a moronic fuck
@AJAXxxTheHumanist Your argument deifies logic. 1: simply because it did not get recorded doesn't mean it didn't exist. 2: You are connecting two unrelated ideas. just because A cannot exist without B, does not mean that B cannot exist without A (A being recorded events, B being events)
And lets face it, religion causes a LOT of conflict. Why would ancient religion be any different?
Maybe it would be more accurate to exchange "religion" with "baseless beliefs" in the title, hmmm?
@TomValedro It's simple, really: when Christian missionaries traveled to different parts of the world and converted some of the population, they split the population. Thereby making conflict.
@maxergud I think you are, you can't prove that there were less wars before judaism and christianity. Maybe there were wars because there was more wars because there was no commandments from god not to kill people, you don't know.
@TomValedro This comment is fucking stupid, it's known that there were fewer wars in hundreds of years of recorded history before the Judeo-Christian clusterfuck, and if anything, a guy with a tablet that says "thou shalt not kill", holding it for 30 seconds before shattering it, and killing everyone there, would NOT stop people from warring. Grow up and try a reasonable thought.
@DannyPhantomBeast War? No no no no. Animals in almost all cases fight for food or from becoming food. These fights are never because one set of animals doesn't believe in the others god. Even animal fights could hardly even be called battles by human standards. The biggest animal fights are between what? 30 maybe 40 animals at best if your lucky. Compare that to humans where there are battles of 10,000 or more.
@Freezykow Chimps of neighboring tribes conduct raids into each others territory and actively hunt each other. That's war any way you want to look at it . The similarity in the way they conduct "ops" in scary. They get all pumped up with threat displays, then go single file (quietly) into a neighbors territory and try to find an isolated individual. They they attack. Males are killed and mutilated. Females are badly beaten. That's war. Numbers are just measures of scale in this case.
@DannyPhantomBeast There was war before religion and now there is even more war because of religion. No was ever stated religion is the cause of ALL wars.
@jesuswasntafascist Nope. Religion is the means by which conflict is justified. Conflict arises even in other apes over territory, access to food, and breeding rights. We just use god-figures to make ourselves feel better about it by creating an outgroup. You can do anything you want as long as you justify it by your opponent being an "Other".
I wouldn't say religion creates *all* conflict. Even if there was no religion people would still find reasons to kill each other.
Fangtorn 2 months ago
someone should upload the christians don't believe in gravity clip.
aj19bcx 2 months ago
it actually makes sence after all if it wasnt for atheism we would have a law to we have to pray to god.
TheGuyWhoReviewGames 2 months ago
It's 2011 and people still believe in something they can't see or touch? Don't u realize it's a made up story. Why would god let priest rape little boys in his name. Yeah I know it's cause we have free will. What a joke kill me god if u are real.........,,,,,...gee nothing happend not even a itchy head. Not picking on the fools who believe I just can't c how they do when science proves there isn't. We came from the apes
JAMEY138 3 months ago 2
@JAMEY138 "people still believe in something they can't see or touch?"
There are plenty of real things that can't be seen or touched.
"I just can't c how they do when science proves there isn't."
Science doesn't prove there isn't a god, it simply doesn't find any evidence to support the existence of a being.
"We came from the apes."
No we didn't, humans and apes share a common ancestor, from which we both descend from.
Fangtorn 2 months ago
@Fangtorn Minor correction, we did come from apes - and we still are apes. Though the apes we're decended from were different to modern apes, and no longer exist as such.
andromidius 2 months ago
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It's not healthy to hate religious people for believing something you don't.
Infinity161 3 months ago
@AngeloNiklis I sent you a friend request!
saiyanmage 3 months ago
@AngeloNiklis Yeah but religion gives you ideas like stoning people to death, burning down cities and killing the women and children except the virgins so you could break them in. Ah the beauty of the bible...
saiyanmage 3 months ago
Just Imagine what a difference it would have made had the story of a virgin birth been treated then as now!
The pregnant 15 year old says she's never been near a man; it's a miracle!
Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiight.
George4943 3 months ago
Religions is sick!!
MrDartplayer27 3 months ago
hahaa, I wish we had family guy where I live. To be fair, a lot of things have been done in the name of religion, that actually haven't had anything to do with religion. Power hungry people waging wars and using the spreading of religion as an excuse to justify their actions.
Minkki82 3 months ago
hey hey hey,
a christian, a jew and a muslim are walking down the street...
Mikeybetts 4 months ago
Wow this is really stupid...
snipzor 4 months ago
blaming religion for war is like to blame wapeon for murder. Afterall, religion is only a Tool created by mankind and its up to us to decide how to use it. To archive inner peace or to blind people for war. Now I really had enough oft those ignorant Atheist and low educated Christan shouting at each other. Shut up and enjoy this video, for its just a comedy...
Visionforger 4 months ago
@Visionforger
I dont really think you can compare weapons and religion like that.
Weapons are simply a tool, which cant motivate you to an action.
Religion can be used as a tool, but it is also something which can motivate you to an action.
Its because religion has motivated several actions, which makes religion responsible for several different things.
Ofcourse in the end its the people who take those actions, but religion can be play a big role, in why that action was made, weapons can not.
Turha101 4 months ago
@Turha101 With weapon. I did not mean "guns" but more a tool of power. To possess weapon it can change one man or even a hole nation's attitude.
Visionforger 4 months ago
@Visionforger
Sure it can change a person, but i would still not say that you can compare that to religion, since again.
Religion can motivate someone to an certain action, which is also why religion can be blamed for that action.
Weapons can not.
Weapons can change a person, which would perhaps lead to that new things would motivate that person, such as greed, paranoia etc.
But that does not mean that the weapon is the motivator.
So IMO you cant compare weapons and religion like that.
Turha101 4 months ago
It's funny because people actually think this.
owchywawa 4 months ago
People didnt get along fine without christianity for thousands of years.......We had war and violence without religion. If all religion were to disappear today we would still have war and violence and genocide and terrorism. Look, im an athiest, but religion isnt the cause of all problems.
yelloyo 4 months ago
@yelloyo true, but religion has still historically caused some violence, and thats enough for closed minded ignorant people who think they're better than anyone else just because they are athiests to ridicule people who have faith. i say this as an atheist myself, just an open minded one, as are you clearly. on the other hand this was pretty fucking funny haha
BillyHguitar 4 months ago
@yelloyo
You don't seriously think that Christianity was the first religion, do you? I agree in that religion isn't the source of ALL conflict (but it is a source of a lot) but there were plenty of religiously-motivated conflicts well before Christianity even existed.
mrwho995 4 months ago
xandarsmeteor brought me here xd
MrWaddefak 4 months ago
i just found this video 2 days ago and emailed it to a friend. now i see its on thunderf00t's fav videos. very nice.
dwarvenater 4 months ago
Stupid video, and a gross oversimplification of things. Religion is not the source of all conflict. It is simply another means humans use to justify conflict.
SatanicFilmHouse 4 months ago
@SatanicFilmHouse Well said. couldn't of said it better.
Ixmore 4 months ago
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I'm noy surprised Thunderfail favorited a video as daft as this. Religion the source of all conflict? I think not.
Moussyed 4 months ago
@Moussyed Why do you think not? Just curious...
SonicTheEggNog 4 months ago
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@Moussyed Why do you think not?
SonicTheEggNog 4 months ago
@Moussyed do you not have comedy where u live
RobLesterArchive 4 months ago 55
@RobLesterArchive i do, but the title you made for this video makes you an idiot. so ya
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@RobLesterArchive See his user name/ I don't think they have comedy within a thousand miles of where he lives.
DarkHorse0863 3 months ago
@Moussyed
I know of Thunderfoot. Who is Thunderfail? Is that a creationist you know?
OptimalElement 4 months ago
@OptimalElement Nope it's thunder (ex researcher) f00t i was referring to.
Moussyed 4 months ago
@Moussyed
But his name not thunderfail, its thunderFOOT. Failure usually associates with creationism.
OptimalElement 4 months ago 2
@OptimalElement I know what his name is. Failure associates with many groups across the spectrum, not just creationists ( although they have much more than their fair share of fail, admittedly). Thunderflop, however, isn't exactly completely free of fail though.
Moussyed 4 months ago
@Moussyed
''isn't exactly free of fail''. Explain.
OptimalElement 4 months ago
@Moussyed Actually, they are on to something. While religion isn't the source for ALL conflict, I think that religion is the cause for most of all conflicts.
DukeTwicep 4 months ago
@Moussyed
Thunderfail? No silly Muhammad (grapes be upon him) doesn't have a YouTube account, but if he did, that sure would be his screen name!
AziMeX 4 months ago 5
@Moussyed troll patroll!!
tamu77095 4 months ago
@Moussyed u win retarded comment of the year... do you watch any comedy? do you like some of those comedies? does you liking something automatically mean you agree everything contained in the comedy is factual? If so - I hope you don't like futurama.
stellaconcepts 4 months ago
@Moussyed
Name 1 war that was not because of religion. Remember Hitler was Catholic.
torrid426 4 months ago
@torrid426 french indian war was about land. there, 1 bitch
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist
Not exactly religious free war but for sake of argument 1
I will counter with 9 crusades.
Now you stupis worthless fucking cunt do you understand a 9 to one ratio ?
Come on name another religious free war and pick one that was truly free of religion .
torrid426 4 months ago
@torrid426 ... do you even know how the troop build up for the first crusades came about? it was the vikings who start to attack certain areas of the holy roman empire for gold and wealth. and in responce a troop build up came about. and the knights started trouble for the empire, so the pope to get all the chips in line started a war. you look at the most simplistic aspects of an issue thiking that makes your point acceptable it doesn't cuz you dont know what your talking about. idiot...
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist
The first crusade was a military expedition by Western Christianity to regain the Holy Lands taken in the Muslim conquest of the Levant. - this one ?
The viking raise ended in 1085 the first crusade was 1096–1099 . Most people died in their early thirties. unless all of 100,000 knights were 15 the last time the vikings attacked most of those troops were dead.
Where do you get your history ?
torrid426 4 months ago
@torrid426 your an idiot by your own stats work towards my point. so vikings stopped attacking then 10 years later we were in a war. im right, and 30 is just what they estimate. and if it wasnt for the vikings the church would not have needed troops. o ya and that was kinda a war that was not connected with religion
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist
You are fucking stupid. The vikings believed you have to die in battle to go to heaven. Not let yourself die but fight your hardest and be bested that way. Kinda religious there.
The vikings were also sacking churches and leaving settlements near by alone. Why would they do that ? could not have possibly been to kill priest . Maybe they just had a special hate for pedophiles.
Go read some history you stupid fuck.
torrid426 4 months ago
@torrid426 wow i really didnt want to put the time in to own your bitch ass but since you insist, why not. ok moron it goes like this vikings would attack and pillage then leave. if dying was so big why didnt they just wait for troops to show up? and back in that time the churches held all the gold and money thats why they attack them in the first place. not to kill priests. but to know that information you would have to think out side you sad little athiest box you live in, you Fucking Idiot!!
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist
The vikings did not have gold as part of their money system. It was to them as chrome is to us, shiny but not very valuable. Silver on the other hand was useful for religious and piratical means. It was the moon metal and it detected poison.
The vikings targeted the priest.y would kill the priest
You are just a worthless little cunt who desperately wants to be right but you are to stupid to actually learn.
torrid426 4 months ago
@torrid426 wow the fact is, the facts are on my side your moronic fuck. i mean are you just making most of this shit up hoping i would know better? cuz vikings did take gold and attack for it you fucking idiot. and why would they kill priests? are you honestly that fucking moronic? cuz they would either kill or take slaves out of the people they attack in churchs and other areas you idiot. are you done or do you wat me to keep making you my bitch
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist
You are such an angry little cunt.
Kill Priest ?
Historians Rudolf Simek and Bruno Dumézil theorise that the Viking attacks may have been in response to the spread of Christianity among pagan peoples see oxford dot edu and BBC
Clearly much easier to get 15 priest from behind a wall than to round up 60 men and women in a undefended town.
806AD Vikings "burned and demolished, killed abbot and monks and all that they found there. Why kill slaves ?
torrid426 4 months ago
@torrid426 what? monks arnt priest... and i was talking about the reason for the troop build up in the holy roman empire, not anything else, but your a moronic fuck so i would expect you to understand that you fucking idiot... but again you stupid worthless cunt the wealth was in the churches not the fucking town that the only reason the attack one more then the other... y o u i d i o t ! !
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist
You got nuthinn so you swear allot.
Monk = a man who is a member of a monastic order . Priest can be monks and priest at the same time but you are too stupid to understand that. We have 500 char only so some shortcuts have to be taken.
You are in the section of stupid that is so worthless you actually think you are smart.
So if the Holy roman empire only built troops to defend against the vikings why Sack of Rome (1527) ? How old were those troops ?
torrid426 4 months ago
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@torrid426 ive already made my points that i now have to repeat, cuz your to fucking stupid to look at what i all ready wrote.
''So if the Holy roman empire only built troops to defend against the vikings why Sack of Rome (1527) ? How old were those troops ?'' "and i was talking about the reason for the troop build up in the holy roman empire, not anything else, but your a moronic fuck so i would expect you to understand that you fucking idiot"
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@torrid426 i'll name more than one. vietnam, korean war, first gulf war etc.. Wars are fought for various reasons land, resources, ideological conflict and yes also religion as well. But to say it's just religion is intellectually dishonest.
Moussyed 4 months ago
@Moussyed
Is it intellectually dis honest ? I'm saying there are at least 9 religious wars to every non religious war and that religion plays a motivational part in every war, if even just to be rid of it.
If you are counting Vietnam and the gulf we can include things that are not wars in religious violence, The 2000 year genocide in the Yugoslavia region that had a brief lull Under Tito.
Without religion we would be much better off.
torrid426 4 months ago
@Moussyed Don't forget the Russian Revolution, the War of 1812, the Napoleonic Wars, the American Revolution, the American Civil War, the Great War (World War I) , and be fair with time line wars, the Trojan War, and the Great conquest the the Mongols Waged
Ixmore 4 months ago
@Moussyed *Cough* crusades *cough* inquisition *cough* witchburning *cough* pedophillia *cough* slavery and racism
*cough cough cough*
Alexc3217 4 months ago
@Alexc3217 *cough* i was *cough* talking *cough* about *cough* wars *cough* *cough*
Moussyed 4 months ago
@Moussyed Crusades were wars dummy.
And conflict does not equal war. Homophobia for example is a conflict of ideas, kept alive by bullshit religion.
Alexc3217 4 months ago
@Moussyed @Moussyed what a petty sad little piss ant you are. This is funny, if for any reason because of it's obvious absurdity. If you're going to be a little cunt faced troll, why not challenge Thunderfoot to a taped debate. It's quite obvious that from that point on the word "fail" shall be graced upon the end of your name. Ass
xyrxes1 4 months ago
@Moussyed it is funny but you are also right in saying religion is not the only thing that causes conflict, plus its has been simplified to a huge extent
atomicization 4 months ago
@Moussyed
Who said it was the source of all conflict?
Turha101 4 months ago
@Turha101 the video title.
Moussyed 4 months ago
@Moussyed
Hmm, damn seems like i missed that one, just went by the picture which i recognized from the show, my bad.
Then i would agree that religion does not create ALL conflict, so yeh the title is simply wrong.
Turha101 4 months ago
@Moussyed
Source of A LOT of conflict, especially when it comes to brutality!
Spetsop 4 months ago
what episode is this
SmootyMcGrootn 4 months ago
@SmootyMcGrootn now your asking. i think it was the one where they have the AA meeting, i can't recall the rest, i think i was that one.
RobLesterArchive 4 months ago
@RobLesterArchive what do u mean "now your asking?" lol
alteredoptions 4 months ago
@SmootyMcGrootn its when peter and brian drink too much and they have to go to the aa meeting.
alteredoptions 4 months ago
thumbs up if LightningHand brought you here
SACK0FWINE 4 months ago
OK, whatever idiot is posting completely unrelated replies to this video, YOU ARE GIVING ME YOUR SHIT IN MY RECOMMENDATIONS, I DON"T CARE ABOUT WATCHING SMALL SPANISH CHILDREN SITTING ON THE TOILET (it's the thumbnail)
zachariasadams1984 4 months ago
You 16-year-olds liking and commenting on this video really have no idea what you're talking about.
Sorry.
Coonshake 4 months ago
This is how people react to MLP unfortunately....
punctualjinx 4 months ago
Thats exactly how it happened
dj69918 4 months ago
fucking hilarious
Discosa 4 months ago
ROFL!
Zcypot 4 months ago
religion is an idea tht was created by greedy arse holes tht wanted to rule the world. FUCK RELIGION, freedom ftw
Grahamf52 4 months ago
@zachariassadams1984 your wrong to think that a social construct that existed to push social evolution was the root of all conflic is retarded. unless u take the same position on the invention of how farming caused conflict with hunter gather societies. all social progress cause conflict with the previous stat quo so to say religion is the main cuz is only trying to push an agenda of your belief, what ever it may be.... and thats just a logical perspective of humanity
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist I do agree that progress creates conflict. However, I view that as a result of people disliking change. I do think that change should be carefully examined before being adopted, but that doesn't mean reject it because it's different. I suppose I would be more honest in saying "I think religion causes conflict when it interferes with progress". I base that idea on a video of a priest claiming that science was bad because it was always changing, opposite of the bible
zachariasadams1984 4 months ago
*points* haa haa! =P
MariahSyn 4 months ago
If you actually payed attention in History 101, you'd know that religious conflicts didn't start until we came out of the "hunter-gatherer" phase, and that was because of abuse within the churches that formed.
If it's not one thing, it's something else.
@aaronk1994 Right you are, sir.
It is, has been, and always will be- greed. "The love of money [power] is the root of all evil."
infamus15 4 months ago
Humans (like all animals) will kill one another, it's basic nature.
If that pack on the other side of the valley has all the food, and my mate and offspring are starving to death, I'm going to go over there and bite out the throat of the other pack's alpha male. So I can bring the food back and feed my family, because they are MORE important to me than other members of my species. That's how it's always worked with ALL lifeforms on Earth.
PTNLemay 4 months ago
@PTNLemay Actually, you are dead wrong. Every species that behaved this way in the past is now extinct because there is no group for protection or support. Even piranhas, hyenas and vultures do not kill each other for this exact reason.
If you look at the reasons for a human to kill another human, religion comes up far too often. Religion makes good people do bad things for irrational reasons, and it makes me wonder why it is still around. Have we never learned anything of it?
Nidair 4 months ago
@Nidair
Actually... no. Some animals will seriously harm those in their own pack just to prove dominance. But in regards to other packs/herds/groups, it might as well be a different species, they will fight to kill when they have to. Wolves, tigers, bears, hell even herbivores will fight each other off ferociously when food is scarce, or when it's mating season...
Animals kill, humans are animals, we've been beating each-other's brains out long before we invented religion.
PTNLemay 4 months ago
@Nidair
A quick and easy way of showing how animals-murder is known to exist is to simply look up "Siblicide". That's animals killing within the immediate family group, it's well known and documented.
PTNLemay 4 months ago
@PTNLemay Which does not work the way you are describing it at all.
Nidair 4 months ago
@Nidair
I know, it's just an extreme (but still real world) example. You all act like nature is perfectly peaceful and happy, and that animals live together like in the Lion King, and that we sinister men and our religion are the source for all evil in this world. When in truth, "evil" is a hugely relative thing, and all animals do kill.
Studies have shown that in certain conditions, even rabbits will fight to the death over things like territory, food, and mates.
PTNLemay 4 months ago
I've got to start watching that show! :-)
MsWanderer1 4 months ago
As one who loves history, I must alert you to a startling fact; very few of the major wars were actually about religion. WWI, WWII, Vietnam, American Civil War, Punic Wars, Alexander's Conquests, Napoleonic Era etc were all about money, resources and land.
I'm not disputing that religious disagreements have led to war, but to say that religion "creates all conflict" is an absurd, hyperbolic embellishment.
aaronk1994 4 months ago 14
@aaronk1994 Whilst Religion sometimes isn't the cause, alot of the times (note: I'm saying alot, not all of the times :S) religion is one of the things that fuels the conflict.
MultiN00bster 4 months ago
@aaronk1994 The Crusades, The Holocaust, The Spanish Inquisition, The Conquistadors in South America, and Islam's Spread by sword & tongue from the Arabian Peninsula to the islands of South East Asia.
I understand your dispute that religion doesn't start all conflicts, but neither has it helped prevent them. More often the words of peace are only preached after acts of violence. On the global scale religion is not benign, it is cancerous. It manages to latch onto any conflict that sets us apart
Ultimatelordkai 4 months ago
@Ultimatelordkai What is this supposed to be?Do you think listing historical events in fragmented sentence form is an argument? And the Holocaust? Give me a break.
Though tragic and regrettable, the items on my list dwarf the crusades, inquisition etc.
Yes, religion has prevented conflicts. Case and point: the WWI Christmas Truce of 1914.
aaronk1994 4 months ago
@aaronk1994 Regrettably I did have to cut out the preface of my list of events to keep the comment under the character limit but of course I would have expected someone of your intelligence level to get the point I was getting at.
And yes, The Holocaust, It happened, It's probably my weakest argument on the list, but it was still religiously influenced.
And I will agree the I did overlook the Christmas Truce, but does peace for a few days really mean anything in the scope of a four year war.
Ultimatelordkai 4 months ago
@Ultimatelordkai Actually the holocaust was racial. Even if every jew in the world gave up religion and became atheist the NSDAP would still have sought their removal.
skegpit 4 months ago
@skegpit True it was geared towards Jews as a race rather than Jews as a religion, but the ideology of Jews as a race at that time stemmed from the stereotypes about the way people of Jewish faith treated others of their faith.The more I think about it the more I regret listing the Holocaust, since it is only weakly relevant, even towards the point I was trying to make in the first place.
Ultimatelordkai 4 months ago
@aaronk1994 Wow "hyperbolic embellishment" those are pretty big words!
warrkrymez 4 months ago
@warrkrymez cool brah
aaronk1994 4 months ago
bull shit video any one who has spent any time looking at the progression of human culture knows that a belief in something "besides us" has been a huge part of our growth. thats why certain humans buried there dead in a certain way even before they had written language religion was and is a huge part of our social evolution
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist You do have a valid point, but at the same time, as any component of our social evolution it has no more place in modern society.
036hugo 4 months ago
@036hugo its culture... like i dont think atheism is evolutionary component of our society and religion is a board topic so i do think it does have a point but meh thanks for the comment
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist I agree with the information, I'm just a bit confused on the point you are trying to make...
zachariasadams1984 4 months ago
@zachariasadams1984 to say religion creates all conflict is fucking dumb when some form or another of religion has existed even before we could record conflict between people.... my point is its a dumb video or a dumb title
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist hmm? some forms of religion existed before the record of conflicts? Great, which means religions create conflict is still a possible statement given your argument.. Dude I really hope you are not religious, otherwise the stereotype is pretty much sealed.
SoutheGarden 4 months ago
@SoutheGarden you stupid fuck, the fact that religion has existed previous to history does not means conflict purely existed with religion. if your that moronic that tell me about WWI, WWII, or Homo Sapiens vs. Neanderthals cuz those are two groups of many, who through time had different perspectives on the viewership of life. and if thats how you define religion then atheist is a religious perspective.... so you ignore that for the benefit of your own argument.... which makes you a moronic fuck
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist Are people reallly arguing over this clip? Holy shit it is exaggerated for comedic purposes... its funny. Lets just go with that.,
bassbole 4 months ago
@AJAXxxTheHumanist Your argument deifies logic. 1: simply because it did not get recorded doesn't mean it didn't exist. 2: You are connecting two unrelated ideas. just because A cannot exist without B, does not mean that B cannot exist without A (A being recorded events, B being events)
And lets face it, religion causes a LOT of conflict. Why would ancient religion be any different?
Maybe it would be more accurate to exchange "religion" with "baseless beliefs" in the title, hmmm?
zachariasadams1984 4 months ago
@zachariasadams1984 i made a reply its up there....
AJAXxxTheHumanist 4 months ago
there were perhaps wars for real purposes like food and resources?
kelbykross1 4 months ago
"thumbs up if thunderf00t yada yada yada"
/watch?v=toxIiMWQgKA
chadd990 4 months ago
yeah there was no wars before judaism or christianity. FAIL!
TomValedro 4 months ago 2
@TomValedro There were LESS wars before judaism and christianity.
maxergud 4 months ago
@maxergud Where is your proof of this?
TomValedro 4 months ago
@TomValedro It's simple, really: when Christian missionaries traveled to different parts of the world and converted some of the population, they split the population. Thereby making conflict.
When a country is in conflict, it leads to war.
maxergud 4 months ago
@maxergud So you are saying there weren't conflicts before christianity?
TomValedro 4 months ago
@TomValedro Are you dense? Re-read my first comment.
maxergud 4 months ago
@maxergud I think you are, you can't prove that there were less wars before judaism and christianity. Maybe there were wars because there was more wars because there was no commandments from god not to kill people, you don't know.
TomValedro 4 months ago
@TomValedro <--- these people shouldn't be given the privilege to speak. Their brain doesn't have the capacity for logical thought.
ThorTheOdinSon 4 months ago
@TomValedro This comment is fucking stupid, it's known that there were fewer wars in hundreds of years of recorded history before the Judeo-Christian clusterfuck, and if anything, a guy with a tablet that says "thou shalt not kill", holding it for 30 seconds before shattering it, and killing everyone there, would NOT stop people from warring. Grow up and try a reasonable thought.
b33p3rz 4 months ago
THUMBS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO PEOPLE KNOW THUNDERFOOT IS a UTUBE CHANNEL AND NOT A MONSTER TRUCK!!!
zacharykelway 4 months ago
I saw this way before thunderf00t.
Ninocka30 4 months ago 4
Thumberf00t!
PaintballLyndon 4 months ago
thunderfoot didn't bring me here....thunderf00t brought me here
chadwick0091 4 months ago 15
I hate that I liked this.
Craydon 4 months ago
Great now I gotta go look up thunderfoot
megaharuko25 4 months ago 6
@megaharuko25 Wise choice.
Solitude102 4 months ago
@megaharuko25 Welcome aboard :)
Antifaith29 4 months ago
There was religion before Christianity.
AresCassell 4 months ago
@AresCassell they could have happened to be not religious
nw5111 4 months ago
search "captain underpants song" and replace "underpants" with "thunderf00t"
nw5111 4 months ago
@nw5111 this may end up killing me but ive just got to know.
werewolf873 4 months ago
@werewolf873 how did it go?
nw5111 4 months ago
@nw5111 i got a song by fiddlers green,a song by the killers and the captain planet theme.
werewolf873 4 months ago
@werewolf873 /watch?v=rJPYqAwzixw
nw5111 4 months ago
best...video...ever
dj69918 4 months ago
thunderf00t ftw!!!
DarwynJackson 4 months ago
There was war before religion. Animals have wars without religion. To say religion is the source of war is absurd.
DannyPhantomBeast 4 months ago
@DannyPhantomBeast War? No no no no. Animals in almost all cases fight for food or from becoming food. These fights are never because one set of animals doesn't believe in the others god. Even animal fights could hardly even be called battles by human standards. The biggest animal fights are between what? 30 maybe 40 animals at best if your lucky. Compare that to humans where there are battles of 10,000 or more.
Freezykow 4 months ago
@Freezykow Chimps of neighboring tribes conduct raids into each others territory and actively hunt each other. That's war any way you want to look at it . The similarity in the way they conduct "ops" in scary. They get all pumped up with threat displays, then go single file (quietly) into a neighbors territory and try to find an isolated individual. They they attack. Males are killed and mutilated. Females are badly beaten. That's war. Numbers are just measures of scale in this case.
NorthForkFisherman 4 months ago
@DannyPhantomBeast Animals have war? You must watch the anti-discovery channel.
dj69918 4 months ago
@DannyPhantomBeast There was war before religion and now there is even more war because of religion. No was ever stated religion is the cause of ALL wars.
Pinage 4 months ago
Family Guy may not be funny, but at least they poke at some interesting issues.
Encryptsan 4 months ago
I want to watch family from episode 1 now. Thunderfoot rocks!
Athecubus 4 months ago
ROFL
sean32laf 4 months ago
oh so true.
randomperson2538 4 months ago
Lol, I love how Family Guy pokes fun at religious beliefs.
1bzoe 4 months ago 5
Hahaha! Funny and true! ;)
jesuswasntafascist 4 months ago
@jesuswasntafascist Nope. Religion is the means by which conflict is justified. Conflict arises even in other apes over territory, access to food, and breeding rights. We just use god-figures to make ourselves feel better about it by creating an outgroup. You can do anything you want as long as you justify it by your opponent being an "Other".
NorthForkFisherman 4 months ago
LOLZ
maidenjapan66 4 months ago
Ugh...
Coonshake 4 months ago
freakin awsome!
666alilthrowedoff666 4 months ago
thunderfoot
MilesWC7 4 months ago 221