Re: Why do atheist scientists convert to Christianity? Answer this!!!

[CJbass420]

@DuNyceBeats It's cool. However think about the posibility that maybe evolution is done by a "god" or god like figure.

[CJbass420]

@DuNyceBeats Yes it does. Sometimes it isn't able to but they always try. I never compared a light bulb to earth or space at all, I was simply naming inventions and light bulbs are an important one. Btw there were two other in between. When I said we I was talking about the human race as a whole; obviously. In fact it was you who ate was was fed to you. Atleast our beleif has evidence. What's your evidence a book with pretty words?

[lederereddy]

...that God created life and His genius, power, resources created the habitat and the varieties but the evidence strongly infers that there's nothing in natural occurrence suggesting it can engineer complex biological machinery such as human beings or even single cells. But here we are! Extremely unlikely that nature could bring a clay sculpture alive even if it had two thousand Trillion years to try, why?

[lederereddy]

"more Christians convert to atheism because it's scientifically proven that there's an answer for everything"

I agree that all American schools teach use falsified information, selected scientific teachings promoting the impression that life evolved over millions of years to produce the huge variety of life forms we see. I agree that more people are persuaded to convert to atheism because they trust that the evidence is overwhelming. But that evidence isn't proof. I can't prove God created the

[lederereddy]

Five stars because I appreciate you not retaliating with condescending overtones, profanity, etc.

I dont agree with atheism. I feel each of your points can be countered by reasonable and definitive rebuttals. I'm on my phone, away from my desktop. I'll have to send this, then go back and choose some of them. I hope to hear back from you soon because that changes how I see the posts and it's a full view, I can see the post I'm responding to, etc!

[feedmetwinkies]

As for you no creator theory- Even great athiest thinkers like Dawkins are admitting that it is likely aliens transplanted us on this plant and help make the echo system capable of sustaining life.

Therefore there is no god but are you ok with Aliens?

[feedmetwinkies]

I hate athiest because you guys insist on recording yourselves as a giant head with no body- How about moving the webcam back a few feet? When more athiest move the webcam back I will tolerate you.

[nerdized]

Atheism is a fad. People wanna be cool so they convert to Atheism. NOBODY KNOWS IF GOD EXISTS OR NOT! WE WILL NEVER KNOW UNTIL HE EITHER COMES BACK TO TAKE US, OR WE DIE. PLEASE ATHEISTS GIVE UP YOU WILL NOT DISPROVE THE BIBLE GIIIIVVEEE UPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!

[Tespri]

@nerdized

Oh we can prove that bible is based on fiction. However you can't disprove/prove negative. So there are many concepts of god not just god of the bible, but we can at least disprove god in the bible. Btw also you don't convert to atheist, you deconvert to it.

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri actually you CAN'T prove that the bible is based on fiction in FACT, the bible has been proven true over and over again the people, groups of people, historical events, and almost all of the prophecies(some haven't had a chance to be proven yet) in the bible have been proven true it is the MOST historically accurate book that we know of every event/person named has evidence to support its/their existence. only controversial events are questioned, but they can't be proven false or true

[Tespri]

@checkthis6134

Obvious troll is a obvious troll...

So if it's 100% accurate could you tell who found jesus' grave empty, what time it was? What was inside or outside of it? Your bible contradicts itself in here.

Also there are no evidence of jews in egypt, neither there was town called nazareth during that time when jesus should've born. Also bible was wrote almost 100 years AFTER his death. Your bible "proofs" have been debunked many times. Now could you stop using circulated logic?

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri The bible says that Mary Magdalene and another woman named Mary went to Jesus' tomb at dawn on the first day of the week after the Sabbath they saw the tomb and an angel and the guards of the tomb saw that the body was gone there is archaeological evidence that shows nazareth existed before,during,and after Christ for the egypt thing it's not like you look at an artifact and can say "this was jewish" and the bible was started in about 1400BC ended 70-95AD none of it 100yrs after Jesus

[Tespri]

@checkthis6134

Graz you did seriously fail. Read your bible if you even have done that. And yes new testament was almost 100 years after jesus' death. And Like i said ALMOST... 70-95AD is what we call almost. /watch?v=Kj7VSGmKRPw You want to watch this video out of many others what I got in my favorites.

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri just because because AD means after death doesn't actually mean that that is when christ died, otherwise there would be about 30 years not marked by BC or AD. Christ died in 33AD leaving a gap smaller than 100 years, instead of only about 40 to 60 years

[Tespri]

@checkthis6134

That is still irrelevant if you start thinking, that people didn't even live that long during that time. Also did you even bother to look that youtube video?

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri actually it is relevant because that could be the difference between 2 generations and 5 generations, and also, we don't truly know how long the people of that time lived, so it might(keyword) be possible that someone lived long enough to witness and write down Jesus's resurrection. yes i did, and while there are some differences, the most important facts are retained among them: sunrise,Mary,the open tomb,seeing an angel,and going back into town where others eventually learn of Christ

[Tespri]

@checkthis6134

Few? Still you seem to forget that it contridicts. Also let's think about what kind of life was there during that time... hmm health care? near zero. Dentists? what are those?

Knowledge about healthy way of life? Barelly at all. People didn't even know that blood was ciruclating during those days.

Seriously those days were even cruder than modern. Barelly anyone would've survived long enought to be eye witness. Beside point what about Quran? It's accurate as your bible.

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri whether you want to believe it or not, the bible does talk about health and how to live healthier, which could have bought them some years, and the bible mentions that the true difference between life is blood, what plants dont have. and on the Quran, the Bible can be shown to be divine in origin while the Quran is purely man-made and the Quran, unlike the Bible, is full of faulty ethics and has incorrect facts. and the Quran only has self-fulfilling prophecies, the Bible does not

[Tespri]

@checkthis6134

Funny since, during black ages and forward from that, peoples life expentasy wasn't so great either. Took hundreds of years to have medical care to manage to live this long. So difference between life is blood? Anybody can prety much tell that, but did it tell it circulates, instead being created by heart all the time? Hah seriously Quran is prety same as bible, both are MAN MADE. Both have incorrect facts. Or do you seriously beleaving that flood story?

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri like i said, we dont know how old people lived to be back then, ages in the bible slowly decrease overtime after adam, who was hundreds of years old,i admit you got me on the blood thing(but how is relevant anyway) Quran is written fully by man,the bible was written BY God THROUGH man, the bible has far more evidence supporting it and is more accurate, and believe it or not, theres actually evidence for a worldwide flood or a huge flood in the Mediterranean that would've seemed worldwide

[Tespri]

@checkthis6134

But we know how long people did live during middle age, and that wasn't long. Also remainin skeletons also tells about age, and how people have died. Blood was only relevant for point that people didn't know shit about health care. There are several different writers, for being writen by god, why is it contradictin itself? What? Next you are going to say world is 6000 years old? Seriously these claims have been debunked in several ways, and many parts of science has done this.

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri fine, i'll stop with the age thing, but i did only say a few years, by which i mean like 2 or 3 years, when i say written by god through man, man physically did write it down but God told them precisely what to write down, yes there is evidence to support a worldwide flood if you do some LOOKING, the mediterranean flood is another theory that seems more likely(but it would've SEEMED worldwide) what's proof/evidence to me may not seem like it because you dont want to see it that way

[Tespri]

@checkthis6134

Well if bible is so proven and flood was true, then try that argument against league of reason. They have debunked many of theists arguments even flood ones. There are so many problems with flood, one for example how in hell you got every animal by pairs in that ark for example. We don't even got that big ships in modern time to transfer all those things. So for "writen" by god SEEMED isn't enought. How do you even know it's writen by god? /watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk For contradictions

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri for the contradictions,in order:not God speading in Micah(someone speaking for him),Abraham was TESTED not tempted, you're not justified by OBSERVING the law-Jesus says follow the commandments and soon after says sell you possessions and follow(believe) me,Jacob saw God in a non-divine,human form(others probably did too),his divine form gives off blinding light but looking at his face will kill you, people never saw him literally face to face

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[checkthis6134]

@Tespri Jermiah 7:21 says "this is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Go ahead, ADD your burnt offerings to your other sacrifices and eat the meat yourselves"(meat of sacrifices) Isaiah 45:7 says "i form the light and create darkness..."(made day &night,not good & evil), both sets of Genesis verses say man was made after animals, Acts 22:9 says the others didn't understand,not understanding is different from not hearing(they heard) continued on next comment

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri 2Peter 3:10 says"..and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare."(earth is bare but still exists),in John 3:13-literally,no one (single person) has gone into heaven on their own except Jesus, Elijah(which is another name for God i would like to say) was TAKEN into heaven by a flaming chariot and horse, Deut 5:9-punishes children for sins of fathers of those who hate God, not those who praise him, God doesn't grow tired form work but like any dad,insults towards him are a burden

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri 2Sam numbers able bodied men(important) and 1Chronicles does not saying those who can handle a sword(which could be a significant increase)and the second set are still close estimates for the time, if you ask me, when everything was counted by hand(and they did it over 9 months),dont know where that guy got his numbers but 2Sam8:4 & 1Chron18:4 have IDENTICAL numbers,

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri in the next verses,one says he bought the threshing floor and oxen(which wouldn't be as much) and the other says he bought the site(which would be more) but he bought the same things in the same area for the same reason and the prices for either one are named and maybe paid the for them both but separately, next verses name 2 different people,1-chief of the Three,the other was chief of the other officers

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri in the next verses just because one ends up asking him for forgiveness doesnt mean he didn't insult him and then realize what he was doing,Jesus did heal 2 blind men ON THE SAME TRIP but probably not in the same place on the trip and it doesnt say whether they were or not, but one is named and the other isn't(possibly because he isn't as important because one amazing miracle is enough) That's about half way through then i stopped cause i was bored of proving them as not contradictions

[checkthis6134]

@Tespri now im done.you can look at that and think that it's ignorance if you want but no matter what, nothing you say will change my beliefs because i have all i need to believe that they are true, so whatever you say i dont care about anymore because i am fully content with what i have said even though you may not be, but now i close my argument saying that nothing you say will change where i stand, so debating it any further is useless for both of us, because we could go on with this forever

[Tespri]

@checkthis6134

You still forget contradiction resurection of jesus, also death of judas. I don't give a shit does it contradict itself or not. Only to christians who for no appearant reason want to beleave bible is made by god.

I never even tried to change your beliefs, you were the one who replied to me. "nothing you say will change where i stand" that alone proves you are ignorant. I just debated for fun, since I still beleave you are a troll.

[specialopsblack]

A lot of people convert from Christianity to Atheism because they find that what their beloved parents taught them are not true. So they believe that no other religion can't be true of course.

[Garedenofeden]

Well, I agree with your hatred against religion! However I do believe in a higher supreme being, whether it be God, or something out there. I was raised Catholic, and just like you I know that all religion is man made! However I also know that there is a higher power out there somewhere Trizza! I considered myself an atheist for a year, but observing everything around me every day, I figured that there is some sort of creator amongst us. Like they say, for every creation, there's a creator! =)

[Trizza21]

"Like they say, for every creation, there's a creator! =) "

Then who created the creator?

[Garedenofeden]

Great question! What i believe is that the supreme being has always been there. There are so many possibilities though! Like our universe, how it is billions of years old, along with our galaxy, and our solar system! Even our beautiful planet! There is something out there that created everything, maybe the big bang theory? How did nothing become of a total something of existence?! Also, what created the big bang?! What i am trying to say is who or what happened when our universe was made? =)

[knowwaie]

Lies. You do hate God. Because he doesn't allow us to "live our lives the way WE see fit". Stop pussy footing, you're either not being honest or you've ignorant of theology.

[trueleroix]

@knowwaie Christians are too embarrassed to try this comment anymore. You are Poe.

[knowwaie]

@trueleroix Actually, i was being as radical as possible, just for flavor.

You really want to attempt this? You realize the very fact that you're responding, and especially as if you're experienced, shows that you have more concern for the antithisis than your own position. Clearly, it's you dislike of Christianity that causes you to do this. There are literally millions of videos just like this one. None of them defending a position but attacking the one which they oppose. Why is that?

[MrItchyElbow]

@Trizza21 Since Christians only knowledge of the creator come from the bible, your assumption that Christians believe that the creator was created is false. The creator according to the bible is from everlasting to everlasting ( no beginning and no end).

[PDzero]

Introduction FTW!

[oldarney]

i forgot to mention how ludicrous it is that those scientist don't convert to religions in other countries. To put it another way, the scientist who convert in India or Israel do not convert to Christianity, they convert to Hinduism or Judaism. If the christian personal god was the true one and he was making appearances in the minds of those scientists, would he have such barriers?

[randypagan]

religion and delusion flourishes in the vacuum of ignorance and fear. There are many people who are too afraid to believe they are not being protected by an almighty being and cant understand why everyone doesn't share their fear.

[shadowmyfeet]

Atheists had a Jesus Christ instruct them to spread their word?

[armondsarkisian]

they have these non-sense beliefs due to fear which they themselves cannot prove.

[LogicalSanity]

good video. how did you get the HD option?

[0194D]

right under the big screen button under the pictures.

[bobbiec224]

Why does scientific knowledge never change? Because it always answers the question "How", "Where" and "When", quite well- never 'who' or 'why'.

If you actually delved into Christianity, and ignored all the traditional crap, you would find things that i promise you never thought you'd believe. People healed of terminal cancer where doctors said impossible.

I think it's more sensible to believe that God created something out of nothing, it wasn't Nothing that created something out of nothing.

[Trizza21]

That is the best you can do? Use a disease that we have the smallest understanding of and probably will not truly understand for many more years and when we don't properly diagnose or understand goes away we automatically claim divine intervention.

Why hasn't God cured someone who lost a limb?

[CJbass420]

@bobbiec224 Actually scientists do ask the why's science is all about how's and why's. Also scientific knowledge does change all the fucking time! Like when the light bulb was invented and t.v. and when we learned about evolution, and when we found out other stars have planets around them. Jeez where you have been all these years? Church?

[kenboii09]

You said it yourself, what if he's right, thats the only reason you guys are religeous at all just in case, your scared of death and so you believe in something that you need to because you can't handle the truth. your going to be worm food just like all the rest of us, sorry to bring you the facts, but someones got to tell kids that santas not real either.

[highwind8124]

I don't want to reply to any of these turds by pointing out their fallacies. Not just fallacies, but insincerities when they call you "friend" after they say "the end is near", as if they gleefully want it to come.

Honestly, sick in the head people who if they got off their emotional high and looked at themselves rationally, critically and objectively would stop being a religious asshole.

Just keep speaking truth and common sense. It will break some out of their trance.

[music0iswhat1ido]

A purpose of a Christian is to spread his word and make people repent and turn to God's feet, i already did my part dude, it's all you now

[music0iswhat1ido]

Its the most hated because it scares the heck out of people because it leaves a thought in there mind "What if he's right?". It's your decision dude whatever works for you, if all these people couldnt convince you then i think no one will but just remember you had your warning, when you die and have to face Jesus you will have no excuse that no one told you

[music0iswhat1ido]

Christians will show it and the fakes ones will just play it off. The end is near my friend, all the things God says are now happening which would be "racism,sexism,torture,war and hate"

[Trizza21]

This is what I mean. The end as the bible refers to is not "near".

My reference to racism, sexism torture and war goes all the way back to the times of moses and the old testament. Moses was a leader of much of the evil of the old testament.

Preaching the end of days is my most hated part of religion. When people think the world will end they don't take as much care of the world around them. What if your wrong and we are here for a lot longer?

[music0iswhat1ido]

Answer me this question my friend: Why do you hate us Christians if we do no wrong to you, our religion is based on love,joy,peace so why would you want to ruin that?

[Trizza21]

I do not hate anyone. I hate ignorance and the spreading of untrue information. Religion is the requirement that you let go of reason and I can't appreciate that.

I do ask why your religion that is based on "love, joy and peace" has resulted in so much racism, sexism, torture, war and hate.

[music0iswhat1ido]

well i respect your decision. Can i be honest? I actually like atheists and non-believers because it puts my faith to the test,actually i have some atheists friends which they always ask me questions and i always answer to the best of my abilities but they always wait till i make a mistake and put it against me, isnt it true? Well back to your question, all the things you said are actually true because those people are fake Christians. In the bible it says that these are the times where true

[gramasyu]

How can you prove something imaginary? You have not seen it, evolution is just a product of pure imagination and speculation. Nothing else. All you have is "faith" (in evolution) not evidence itself, because there is no evidence for evolution.

Faith is being sure of what you hope for and being certain of things you do not see.  You are certain of evolution although you have not seen it, that is what we call "faith"

[Trizza21]

HAHA...you mean imaginary like some big bully in the sky?

Please disprove the recombinant DNA connection from humans to the great apes. (proof of evolution)

Also disprove the fossil records which does include intermediate species.

Lastly give a good reason why whales have hip bones built for a walking animal yet live in the ocean.

[kungpow100]

explain why we have more in common with pigs than the great apes

explain how if everything is evolving to reach a state at which it can best reproduce and survive that we are the only beings to reach the height we have. And why cant we survive on both land and sea. Where are our gills?

explain how through the big bang we as beings were able to acquire rationality.

explain how our own scientific laws are broken by forces in the universe that we then make exceptions for

I'm not on either side

[FHB71]

What you are assuming is that sincewe cannot prove or disprove a god, the chance for its existence is 50:50, which would require you to believe in many more things than just your weird god.

Evolution is a scientific theory, that means it is a testable explanation of the facts we find in biology (development of species). In common language one can say that evolution as such is a provable and testable fact.

[kenboii09]

What the fuck???!!! seriously i rarely comment on here but gramasyu you are one seriously thick fuck, did you actually study any science at school at all?? plankton and agae would have come from single celled bacteria too. they are more than single celled organisms.

[gramasyu]

How do you know they're single celled and not double celled or multiple celled organisms? You are confining your legend in a box! Hahaha!

[gramasyu]

until you renounce your belief in your imaginary monkey ancestry, I will find you no credible to talk about any legitimate issue.

[Trizza21]

So I need to ignore all logic, reason, science, mathematics and give up my free thought.

Prove one thing from the bible and I will find a reason to listen to you.

[gramasyu]

Prove to me that your "imaginary" ancestors were not monkeys.

[Trizza21]

I can't prove they were not my ancestors cause they are.

Please refer to recombinant DNA. This plus the decoding of the genome is proof beyond all doubt. What do you have a book written by men who thought the world was flat.

[gramasyu]

"I can't prove they were not my ancestors cause they are."

So, you believe your ancestors were monkeys? What kind of ridiculous belief is that? That's a freakin hilarious belief! LOL!

Why do you believe in that "imaginary" monkey ancestors? Can't you see that that is just a product of pure speculations. You have been fooled enough! Monkeys beget monkeys but humans beget humans, that is fact, that is reality, no speculation or imagination involed. WAKE UP.

[Trizza21]

Coming from the person who believes in a giant fairy in the sky.

Forget Monkeys, we came from a single cell bacteria at the start of living organisms. As with most creationists you can't actually debate because you have no knowledge and close minded.

You and Kirk Cameron just keep thinking that some jealous, murderous, vengeful and all powerful ghost in the sky cares if you say god damn.

[gramasyu]

"Forget Monkeys, we came from a single cell bacteria at the start of living organisms."

I will never forget that because it never happened. hahaha!! And how do you know it was bacteria and not a plankton or algae? LOL!

[ywingdriver]

Prophesy of Jerusalem being destroyed for one.

The mist recent prophesy that has come true is the prophesy of Israel being a country again.

Son there. Prove evolution, which, by the way, is a flawed and biased theory.

(I'm sorry if I'm sounding like evolution is a conspiracy, or something. It's not.)

[Trizza21]

evolution is not flawed. I would try to prove again, but you're not going to listen anyway. If you really think there is no proof just google "evolution proof".

Ignorant and blind should not be things you choose to be. Open your mind and your eyes. Once you can disprove evolution and not just doubt it we can debate.

[ywingdriver]

I'll send you my letter.

[ywingdriver]

Also, I am a good, logical thinker and I will give you a good debate. I have been on here disproving evolution in a logical way for a while now.

[gramasyu]

How can you prove something imaginary? You have not seen it, evolution is just a product of pure imagination and speculation. Nothing else. All you have is "faith" (in evolution) not evidence itself, because there is no evidence for evolution.

Faith is being sure of what you hope for and being certain of things you do not see. You are certain of evolution although you have not seen it, that is what we call "faith"

[Trizza21]

That branding still sticks.  No scientist even if he went to Christianity has disproven any evidence of evolution or proven any of your fairy tales.

[gramasyu]

Atheists are branding Christians as scientifically illiterate, ignorant, illogical and noncritical thinkers, and yet atheist scientists convert to Christianity. LOL! What an irony!