kick to face is more effective than punch to face. but punch to face is easier than kick to face because kick to face after takedown is banned in mma and other matches. kick to face after takedown is easy and dangerous techniques in taekwondo hosinsul. kick to face against floor after takedown is very dangerous technique because floor blocks back side of face. skull can be broken.
@spiritofmuye Not all MMA - If im not mistaken, Pride FC and DREAM FC allow kicks to the gace whilst someone in on the ground. Albeit, the need to be performed in a manner similar to a Soccer Kick.
i always hear the same thing "wtf tkd is a watered down version of itf tae kwon do" and "wtf isnt realistic,no punches,self defense,throws,ect" for each rank,we were required to learn many throws,grappling,throws,flips,ect. and many punches. in tournements there are punches allowed,just not for points.a kick is so much stronger than a punch,and it is used to gain distance in my opinion and hands are for blocking.
both forms are great.if anyone puts the other form down,its very wrong.
@ganitywaltz hands are weapons that can also be used for blocks. trust me when i say a punch to the face is way more effect than a kick. a kick may knock them out more often that not, but they also barely ever land if the opponent is actualy gaurding himself.
I do TKD as well but i am niether WTF nor ITF. i take an american version.
I assumed the guy in black shorts was ITF TKD because generally I would assume if you're relying on TKD, it's only natural to back up and try and wait for a good moment to kick. It's always been my problem in my TKD class when sparring, I guess I'm back off too much but what can I do if my opponent doesn't back up when I move forward.
Clinch him and Jujitsu/Wrestling slam him on the ground and choke him to death... People figure that one out a long time ago... Ask the Roman Empire, or the Samurai... =P
Yes they did, they also knew that when you were disarmed or had no weapon punching and kicking was not a good idea against armored soldiers, so they figure a hand to hand combat system to over come armor. Clinch the person, so that they cannot effectively swing a sword or weapon, throw/sweep them on the ground and finish them by choke or joint lock. Armor stops punbches, but it doesn't stop your arm from bending backwards =)
@GuamKomudo that cool but dont think it was very effective to be graving or clinching on to a person in war. I mean there are no rules so blows to vital organs are allowed such as throat, groin, eyes and so on. You have multiple unites, unites with thick plated armor like the samurai which made it a bit hard for them to move or metal and leather armor like the legion.
Actually grappling is the most effect way to defeat an armored opponent (besides a sweapon). The armor they wore was not hard to move in (Samurai anyway, idk about the other people you said) Jujitsu was created by the samurai for this specific reason. The system incorperates grappling with swords, spears, knife, chains, unarmed etc Dirty strikes,blows to vital organs. It was not the Jujitsu you will see in MMA, because like you said, it was real life.But many moves from MMA were used by samurai
@GuamKomudo I agree still samurai lack In fighting foreign enemies. Anyways what is the point of grabing someone when they can hit you in the groin or press your eyeballs in? Im not a expert in Samurai but I do know my history and the Samurai got own by the Koreans.
Actually if you look up HwaRangDo Korea's old combat system or Taekkyun,you will see MANY of the same grappling techniques. Hwarangdo ground fighting is just about identical to Jujitsu.European HEMA grappling used against armored opponents is very similar too.Greek Greco Roman wrestling used by Spartans,Chinese Shuai Jiao,Russian folk wrestling.Closing the sistance, slamming them down, and getting a lock or choke has been used by pretty much every culture that has created armor.
Também, botam um Perebão VS um cara mais treinado, quer o que?! É a mesma coisa se botar o vencedor dessa luta VS Anderson Silva. É desigual da mesma maneira.
@ThOutRider2 how do you work that out? There is no grappling, no wrestling, no arm-bars/submissions or BJJ skills etc etc - This is all pure stand up striking... not even a Muay Thai clinch in there.
@ThOutRider2 it might be either that Polish KSW has significantly different rules than either UFC or the now defunct Pride. Or, that both fighters in the video simply favour stand-up fighting style.
Either way, aside from a bit of ground & pound at the end - this was not an MMA bout in the way most people would understand it. Furthermore, neither of them would last very long in a UFC bout where a much wider range of skills is necessary.
@willhum what are you talking about? its the same rules as in m1. no 1 gives a shit about what would happen if they went to the ufc. this is just a 2 min clip from like 2 years ago that you've seen and you are saying that this is not mma coz you didn't see any grapplig for the 2 min. damn :0
@willhum you're talking as if mma was just takedowns,gnp and submissions. let me remind you MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) if some one throws a kick (any) that is an MMA skill same for everthing they did
@willhum "neither of them would last very long in a UFC bout where a much wider range of skills is necessary. " <--- based on what I have seen on youtube, the only "skill" in ufc is lunging at someone like a 3rd grader, then, if you are successful, doing greco-roman wrestling until you "submit" them!
Simple equations people. Can a bjj guy stand up with a tkd guy with the kind of striking he's taught?? can a tkd guy grapple with a bjj guy with the kind of submission he's taught?? bjj guys generally only know enough to defend and close distance tkd guys depending only know enough to stay standing or get back up. mma is not about knowing everything but how well you can blend other techniques to best help you use your "bread and butter" The one who can do this best has a better chance of success
any one can beat anyone else with any style. everything also has something useful. and eye gouging only works if you can get in a position to eye gouge.
Do you now why the taekondo fighter won rare, its because a REAL Taekwondo fighter never post a video of his victory on youtube, because we have philosophie, the real arrogant guy are the idiots that post his victories on youtube
I dont think BJJ is a complete fighting system. I dont think Judo is a complete fighting system. I dont think wrestling is a complete fighting system.
The more the style limits your options the less it is a martial art. TKD is an art, good exercise, and good discipline but it is not a martial art. At best it has moves that are useful in martial arts.
no a martial art because it limits you moves for the style. Take away martial moves to have a pretty and cute style they you aren't martial anymore. anybody with basic mma skills can savagely take advantage of this weakness and expose TKD for the artistic dance it is
@Rannik45715 What really limits your moves are rules, competitive rules. Martial Arts weren't meant to be sports. In a competition you can't eye-gauge, throat-thrust, wrist-lock or perform any other Martial Arts feat, because it is deemed too dangerous. So saying TKD is a dance seems like a very misinformed comment. The techniques are there for you to use, it depends on which ones you want to use and on how effectively you can pull them off. cheers
TKD is the definition of a martial art, it is used by the korean military in hand to hand combat, that is what "martial" art means. You my friend know little about tkd, ITF and ITF style TKD consistantaly proves itself against all other types of fighting.
I don't care for "sport" fighting. Most grappling in sport is not practical in street since there are no rules in the street. My base is tkd.Had many street fights, some with multiple opponents and never lost. I was never taken down and defended or avoided every shoot. I have grab and grappling training, but minimal just in case. I also strike, throat, neck, knee caps, groin, etc.If I were caught in a hold, I would bite, attack the groin, gouge, head butt, rip ears,etc. I respect fighter first.
lol... probably because your fighting guys who have no type of martial arts background. Anyone with any level of martial arts backgroun especially in wrestling judo or jiu jitsu could take down a tae kwon do quivalent in no time. As soon as you lift your leg for a kick you are on the ground.
sorry man, you're wrong, some of the fighters I beat were grapplers. one even came at me with a steel pipe since he wasn't able to take me down. he was frustraded, went to his car and pulled out a pipe. I threw him down with a judo throw and punched his face. I let him get up and he charged at me, I threw a side kick to his gut, he bent over, I grabbed his head, knee to his face. I broke his nose and jaw. street and cage fighting are completely different scenarios, wake up dude
:) Trained at University of Western Ontario with Ray Takahashi. Did quite a bit of my own street fighting ;) My point is you simply weren't fighting people that would be of equivalent calibre.
Tae Kwon Doe gets guys in amazing shape and sharpens response times immensely but they simply cannot fair against an equivalent opponent who is a wrestler/grappler/jiujitsu.
I keep my distance until you kick, grab the leg and you are down. I gaurantee it.
also grappling with someone larger than you isn't something i would recommend. i know the examples of gracie beating people bigger than him, but i just don't like the risk of being held by someone bigger and stronger. i think this bottle guy is full of shit too. anyone who claims tons of streetfights normally are. in almost all cases, its not the style that makes good fighters and effectiveness, its how it is used.
ya, that's why anderson silva, a TKD blackbelt, is a UFC champion, and cung le, another TKD blackbelt, was a Strikeforce champion. most martial artist who's main background is grappling will always make your point. it's all about how you disguise kicks and set up kicks. here's one, most fighters who are mainly grapplers risk getting knocked to fuck out early in fights especially if their opponent has good takedown defense.
of course, i agree. mma requires some grappling knowledge to be successful. cung le has wrestling and some BJJ as well. regarding the guy talking about self defense. striking arts are probably the best. i'm a TKD guy, but i do know how it can be ineffective in this way. you must change it to low kicks and punches. use more the timing, distancing, and movement than the flashiness, but that can be true for any style. grappling can be good defense, but only in 1v1 combat.
All I can say is if someone was a super pro at a stand-up martial art such as TKD or Karate, and also super pro in a ground fighting martial arts Such as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, You will be a tank.
I think the TKD guy is Jurasz...is that how its spelt? He's Polish. Polish ITF is very forward thinking and a model for the future of ITF worldwide. No I'm not Polish. To Be honest guys N gals, we all have a favourite style...i loved doing TKD, the kicking techniques ARE awesome, its what YOU do with them that count. There is a lot to learn from other styles and the Polish aren't afraid to test it out.
actully itf is the future and pass itf was origanlly tkd untill wtf branched of and made a sport of tkd while itf kept back the morals and actually fighting stlyes
man that sux tkd would actually have a good name if it werent for the WTF crap and light contact BS that u see today and same goes for kung fu and karate. the worst part is theyre actually good styles too.
saw some really nice videos with some 4th dan and above doing some decent grappling, and I'm going for my 2nd dan in Oct and already need to learn a few grabs and holds, only baisc stuff though and I'm learning off my friend who does Jujitsu, TKD etc etc.
do you honestly think that you would even have a slight chance against a good BJJ fighter with the grappling they teach you in a TKD dojo? yeah right kid.
@hazard2000 lol maby but why wretler a wretler im smart id hit u my grppling is to help if i do get taken to the floor and i learn alot of the stuff tought in jj schools becuase bjj is just a bralian version of a japanese fighting style and yes i go to a good school that teach good things agasint an avreage bjj fighter yes i probly good win againt some one like gracie well i consider it a win if i dont get hurt and dont knock itf tkd Kid
not lucky, if you watch any TKD fighter they always back up when someone comes at them because they are used to mainly just dodging kicks because TKD is all about point sparring and not finishing fights
kick to face is more effective than punch to face. but punch to face is easier than kick to face because kick to face after takedown is banned in mma and other matches. kick to face after takedown is easy and dangerous techniques in taekwondo hosinsul. kick to face against floor after takedown is very dangerous technique because floor blocks back side of face. skull can be broken.
spiritofmuye 6 months ago
@spiritofmuye Not all MMA - If im not mistaken, Pride FC and DREAM FC allow kicks to the gace whilst someone in on the ground. Albeit, the need to be performed in a manner similar to a Soccer Kick.
Caeviens 6 months ago
i always hear the same thing "wtf tkd is a watered down version of itf tae kwon do" and "wtf isnt realistic,no punches,self defense,throws,ect" for each rank,we were required to learn many throws,grappling,throws,flips,ect. and many punches. in tournements there are punches allowed,just not for points.a kick is so much stronger than a punch,and it is used to gain distance in my opinion and hands are for blocking.
both forms are great.if anyone puts the other form down,its very wrong.
ganitywaltz 8 months ago
@ganitywaltz hands are weapons that can also be used for blocks. trust me when i say a punch to the face is way more effect than a kick. a kick may knock them out more often that not, but they also barely ever land if the opponent is actualy gaurding himself.
I do TKD as well but i am niether WTF nor ITF. i take an american version.
urbanassassin26 7 months ago
I assumed the guy in black shorts was ITF TKD because generally I would assume if you're relying on TKD, it's only natural to back up and try and wait for a good moment to kick. It's always been my problem in my TKD class when sparring, I guess I'm back off too much but what can I do if my opponent doesn't back up when I move forward.
The111DooD 11 months ago
@The111DooD You attack, of course. Are you saying you have problem attacking from close distance?
wang1433 11 months ago
Clinch him and Jujitsu/Wrestling slam him on the ground and choke him to death... People figure that one out a long time ago... Ask the Roman Empire, or the Samurai... =P
GuamKomudo 11 months ago
@GuamKomudo dude the samurai and romans had swords.
westhamboy95 10 months ago
Yes they did, they also knew that when you were disarmed or had no weapon punching and kicking was not a good idea against armored soldiers, so they figure a hand to hand combat system to over come armor. Clinch the person, so that they cannot effectively swing a sword or weapon, throw/sweep them on the ground and finish them by choke or joint lock. Armor stops punbches, but it doesn't stop your arm from bending backwards =)
GuamKomudo 9 months ago
@GuamKomudo that cool but dont think it was very effective to be graving or clinching on to a person in war. I mean there are no rules so blows to vital organs are allowed such as throat, groin, eyes and so on. You have multiple unites, unites with thick plated armor like the samurai which made it a bit hard for them to move or metal and leather armor like the legion.
GoHardMG 6 months ago
Actually grappling is the most effect way to defeat an armored opponent (besides a sweapon). The armor they wore was not hard to move in (Samurai anyway, idk about the other people you said) Jujitsu was created by the samurai for this specific reason. The system incorperates grappling with swords, spears, knife, chains, unarmed etc Dirty strikes,blows to vital organs. It was not the Jujitsu you will see in MMA, because like you said, it was real life.But many moves from MMA were used by samurai
GuamKomudo 6 months ago
@GuamKomudo I agree still samurai lack In fighting foreign enemies. Anyways what is the point of grabing someone when they can hit you in the groin or press your eyeballs in? Im not a expert in Samurai but I do know my history and the Samurai got own by the Koreans.
GoHardMG 6 months ago
Actually if you look up HwaRangDo Korea's old combat system or Taekkyun,you will see MANY of the same grappling techniques. Hwarangdo ground fighting is just about identical to Jujitsu.European HEMA grappling used against armored opponents is very similar too.Greek Greco Roman wrestling used by Spartans,Chinese Shuai Jiao,Russian folk wrestling.Closing the sistance, slamming them down, and getting a lock or choke has been used by pretty much every culture that has created armor.
GuamKomudo 6 months ago
btw which one is supposedly the itf tkd guy here?
neutrino78x 1 year ago
Também, botam um Perebão VS um cara mais treinado, quer o que?! É a mesma coisa se botar o vencedor dessa luta VS Anderson Silva. É desigual da mesma maneira.
andreturbante 1 year ago
i see tkd slowly makeing its way towards mma
fighter like crocop carlos condit dennis siver and even joe rogan taught gsp
the taekwondoe back kick because its the strongest kick in all martial arts so
fuck alll of you tkd haters
streetdreamz210 1 year ago
that guy doesn't do tkd,,,, look at his kick, even 10 years old can even kick better than him...if the kid does tkd
chaewoongang 1 year ago
I didn't see much TKD. & the TKD moves weren't even the ones that hurt him, just scared him...
bOnGNoP 1 year ago
@bOnGNoP ITF practices with the hands too... That's why he can do stand up in mma or in muay thai matches.
thefreed 1 year ago
mma is not a style...
hulken33333 1 year ago 2
@minase0906 no. tkd only works when you use it well. same goes with any other art one performs with.
yongpack0 1 year ago
This is not ITF, but GTF... and this is not MMA, but WWF...
cromodora 1 year ago
@cromodora mmmmmmm......... its a Polish mma organisation called KSW. its TKD ITF. all facts
ThOutRider2 1 year ago
This is not MMA.
willhum 1 year ago
@willhum IT IS MMA!!!!!!
ThOutRider2 1 year ago
@ThOutRider2 how do you work that out? There is no grappling, no wrestling, no arm-bars/submissions or BJJ skills etc etc - This is all pure stand up striking... not even a Muay Thai clinch in there.
So on what grounds is this MMA??
willhum 1 year ago
@willhum this is on mma rules, its KSW which is an mma organizatio, the guy in blue is a tkd guy ive seen him fight a few times, i just know its mma
ThOutRider2 1 year ago
@ThOutRider2 it might be either that Polish KSW has significantly different rules than either UFC or the now defunct Pride. Or, that both fighters in the video simply favour stand-up fighting style.
Either way, aside from a bit of ground & pound at the end - this was not an MMA bout in the way most people would understand it. Furthermore, neither of them would last very long in a UFC bout where a much wider range of skills is necessary.
willhum 1 year ago
@willhum what are you talking about? its the same rules as in m1. no 1 gives a shit about what would happen if they went to the ufc. this is just a 2 min clip from like 2 years ago that you've seen and you are saying that this is not mma coz you didn't see any grapplig for the 2 min. damn :0
ThOutRider2 1 year ago
@ThOutRider2 ok, so its option 2... both fighters are at home with stand up striking.
As MMA was in the title of the clip... was surprised to see no MMA skills used thats all.
willhum 1 year ago
@willhum you're talking as if mma was just takedowns,gnp and submissions. let me remind you MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) if some one throws a kick (any) that is an MMA skill same for everthing they did
ThOutRider2 1 year ago
@ThOutRider2 MMA = MIXED martial arts... all I saw was two people stand up striking. Even less variance than had it been TKD vs Muay Thai.
Enough said, I'm getting bored of this conversation.
willhum 1 year ago
@willhum RRRAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
OK!!!!!!!!!!
ThOutRider2 1 year ago
@willhum "neither of them would last very long in a UFC bout where a much wider range of skills is necessary. " <--- based on what I have seen on youtube, the only "skill" in ufc is lunging at someone like a 3rd grader, then, if you are successful, doing greco-roman wrestling until you "submit" them!
neutrino78x 1 year ago
Simple equations people. Can a bjj guy stand up with a tkd guy with the kind of striking he's taught?? can a tkd guy grapple with a bjj guy with the kind of submission he's taught?? bjj guys generally only know enough to defend and close distance tkd guys depending only know enough to stay standing or get back up. mma is not about knowing everything but how well you can blend other techniques to best help you use your "bread and butter" The one who can do this best has a better chance of success
hothit21 1 year ago 2
any one can beat anyone else with any style. everything also has something useful. and eye gouging only works if you can get in a position to eye gouge.
hothit21 1 year ago
minase0906
Do you now why the taekondo fighter won rare, its because a REAL Taekwondo fighter never post a video of his victory on youtube, because we have philosophie, the real arrogant guy are the idiots that post his victories on youtube
YinYanTiger 1 year ago
OMG the guy who s beaten is Crocop in his early days.
syntex405 1 year ago
NO YOU ARE WRONG...
feder459 1 year ago 3
@syntex405 This guy looks nothing like mirko are you high?
appappa90 1 year ago
@syntex405 he really looks like Crocop O_O
KickMyAssify 1 year ago
I think TKD by itself isnt a complete fighting system, you need to be skilled in BJJ, Judo or Wrestling in order to stand a chance in a MMA fight.
djsupple 2 years ago 2
I dont think BJJ is a complete fighting system. I dont think Judo is a complete fighting system. I dont think wrestling is a complete fighting system.
whitedragonawa 1 year ago
The more the style limits your options the less it is a martial art. TKD is an art, good exercise, and good discipline but it is not a martial art. At best it has moves that are useful in martial arts.
Rannik45715 2 years ago
haha u idiot, how is tkd not a martial art? u dont have a clue lol
djmarkyno1 2 years ago
no a martial art because it limits you moves for the style. Take away martial moves to have a pretty and cute style they you aren't martial anymore. anybody with basic mma skills can savagely take advantage of this weakness and expose TKD for the artistic dance it is
Rannik45715 2 years ago
@Rannik45715 What really limits your moves are rules, competitive rules. Martial Arts weren't meant to be sports. In a competition you can't eye-gauge, throat-thrust, wrist-lock or perform any other Martial Arts feat, because it is deemed too dangerous. So saying TKD is a dance seems like a very misinformed comment. The techniques are there for you to use, it depends on which ones you want to use and on how effectively you can pull them off. cheers
ratonL 1 year ago
TKD is the definition of a martial art, it is used by the korean military in hand to hand combat, that is what "martial" art means. You my friend know little about tkd, ITF and ITF style TKD consistantaly proves itself against all other types of fighting.
MilitantBlackGuy1 2 years ago 2
@MilitantBlackGuy1 so is sambo, krav maga... taekwondo isnt the only one
FMBRKW 1 year ago
he is kickboxer, not mma fighter..
supravires 2 years ago
I don't care for "sport" fighting. Most grappling in sport is not practical in street since there are no rules in the street. My base is tkd.Had many street fights, some with multiple opponents and never lost. I was never taken down and defended or avoided every shoot. I have grab and grappling training, but minimal just in case. I also strike, throat, neck, knee caps, groin, etc.If I were caught in a hold, I would bite, attack the groin, gouge, head butt, rip ears,etc. I respect fighter first.
bottlebrusher 2 years ago
is it a self defense against wife beaters class?
cleve101 2 years ago
lol... probably because your fighting guys who have no type of martial arts background. Anyone with any level of martial arts backgroun especially in wrestling judo or jiu jitsu could take down a tae kwon do quivalent in no time. As soon as you lift your leg for a kick you are on the ground.
facing42 2 years ago
facing42,
sorry man, you're wrong, some of the fighters I beat were grapplers. one even came at me with a steel pipe since he wasn't able to take me down. he was frustraded, went to his car and pulled out a pipe. I threw him down with a judo throw and punched his face. I let him get up and he charged at me, I threw a side kick to his gut, he bent over, I grabbed his head, knee to his face. I broke his nose and jaw. street and cage fighting are completely different scenarios, wake up dude
bottlebrusher 2 years ago
:) Trained at University of Western Ontario with Ray Takahashi. Did quite a bit of my own street fighting ;) My point is you simply weren't fighting people that would be of equivalent calibre.
Tae Kwon Doe gets guys in amazing shape and sharpens response times immensely but they simply cannot fair against an equivalent opponent who is a wrestler/grappler/jiujitsu.
I keep my distance until you kick, grab the leg and you are down. I gaurantee it.
facing42 2 years ago
also grappling with someone larger than you isn't something i would recommend. i know the examples of gracie beating people bigger than him, but i just don't like the risk of being held by someone bigger and stronger. i think this bottle guy is full of shit too. anyone who claims tons of streetfights normally are. in almost all cases, its not the style that makes good fighters and effectiveness, its how it is used.
liverpoolcCU 2 years ago
ya, that's why anderson silva, a TKD blackbelt, is a UFC champion, and cung le, another TKD blackbelt, was a Strikeforce champion. most martial artist who's main background is grappling will always make your point. it's all about how you disguise kicks and set up kicks. here's one, most fighters who are mainly grapplers risk getting knocked to fuck out early in fights especially if their opponent has good takedown defense.
liverpoolcCU 2 years ago 2
I agree with you concerning Anderson Silva. He is Muay thai and TKD though and he has black belt in jiu jitsu.
facing42 2 years ago
of course, i agree. mma requires some grappling knowledge to be successful. cung le has wrestling and some BJJ as well. regarding the guy talking about self defense. striking arts are probably the best. i'm a TKD guy, but i do know how it can be ineffective in this way. you must change it to low kicks and punches. use more the timing, distancing, and movement than the flashiness, but that can be true for any style. grappling can be good defense, but only in 1v1 combat.
liverpoolcCU 2 years ago
Ya absolutely agree with you on that.
facing42 2 years ago
very true
mastrdanart 2 years ago
the guy in the blue trunks was TKD, the other was MMA
Lenin2304 2 years ago
All I can say is if someone was a super pro at a stand-up martial art such as TKD or Karate, and also super pro in a ground fighting martial arts Such as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, You will be a tank.
WondrousBurrito 2 years ago
I think the TKD guy is Jurasz...is that how its spelt? He's Polish. Polish ITF is very forward thinking and a model for the future of ITF worldwide. No I'm not Polish. To Be honest guys N gals, we all have a favourite style...i loved doing TKD, the kicking techniques ARE awesome, its what YOU do with them that count. There is a lot to learn from other styles and the Polish aren't afraid to test it out.
MrEllaitch 2 years ago
the loser looked like a young mirko crocop look close.
cheeverdog 2 years ago
personally ITF is the future of TKD i believe, i WTF just isnt realistic enough.
shuriken86 2 years ago 2
actully itf is the future and pass itf was origanlly tkd untill wtf branched of and made a sport of tkd while itf kept back the morals and actually fighting stlyes
iceywolf1 2 years ago
man that sux tkd would actually have a good name if it werent for the WTF crap and light contact BS that u see today and same goes for kung fu and karate. the worst part is theyre actually good styles too.
shuriken86 2 years ago
dead right mate
having to explain that wtf is not what i do is so anoying. itf should be the one evryone see's
ddandbd 2 years ago
itf is the past present and future.
MilitantBlackGuy1 2 years ago
sorry, which one is the tkd guy
nickanhtran 2 years ago
i tihnk is the no hair 1, the blue1,
because i saw his stance is ITF TKD 1,
at last can see his kick is less in MMA to used... if i got say any wrong, sry~
cancerpig 2 years ago
ITF is so much better all-around. Put in some good grappling skills and you've got game.
Have you ever seen a WTF olympic athlete go up against an MMA fighter or kickboxer? It's lol-tastic.
weirdfanguy 2 years ago
saw some really nice videos with some 4th dan and above doing some decent grappling, and I'm going for my 2nd dan in Oct and already need to learn a few grabs and holds, only baisc stuff though and I'm learning off my friend who does Jujitsu, TKD etc etc.
Rice8Daddy 2 years ago
itf at least my schhol does teach grappling not asmuch as striking but graplling and slef defence is covered in the self defence clases
iceywolf1 2 years ago 15
do you honestly think that you would even have a slight chance against a good BJJ fighter with the grappling they teach you in a TKD dojo? yeah right kid.
hazard2000 2 years ago
@hazard2000 lol maby but why wretler a wretler im smart id hit u my grppling is to help if i do get taken to the floor and i learn alot of the stuff tought in jj schools becuase bjj is just a bralian version of a japanese fighting style and yes i go to a good school that teach good things agasint an avreage bjj fighter yes i probly good win againt some one like gracie well i consider it a win if i dont get hurt and dont knock itf tkd Kid
iceywolf1 2 years ago
ive never been hit going in for a takedown against a TKD fighter and ive sparred alot of them
hazard2000 2 years ago
@hazard2000 i doubt that and if its true then umust a good fight or extremly lucky
iceywolf1 2 years ago
not lucky, if you watch any TKD fighter they always back up when someone comes at them because they are used to mainly just dodging kicks because TKD is all about point sparring and not finishing fights
hazard2000 2 years ago
What if it was the other way round in striking. they are two totally different martial arts. one is stand up and one is grappling.
MegaJAYBAYBAY 2 years ago
this is taekwondo
kelvinx65 2 years ago
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
feder459 2 years ago
not pure luck! good fighter as i was saying!
there are more of TKD fighters raping MMA fighters simply because who they are not what they do you smack head
ddandbd 2 years ago 3
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss finally tkd is workin its way into mma finallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
MrMJBMDK 2 years ago 13
@MrMJBMDK
I wouldnt be too excited, Once a BJJ fighter takes on some weak ass TKD fighter..ITS OVER
twiztidlestat 1 year ago
@twiztidlestat the key words in your sentence is weak ass tkd fighter. the same can be said about a weak ass bjj fighter.
yongpack0 1 year ago
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ddandbd 2 years ago
THIS IS ITF NOT WTF
feder459 2 years ago
is this wtf or itf just a question i ask before i watch the vid
iceywolf1 2 years ago
hes itf but obviously didnt learn mma with them.
billysue2 2 years ago
ITF
nickanhtran 2 years ago