You Can Survive Peak Oil -New Energy Crisis, Fuel Shortage 3

[TDMprivateRyan]

There is enough food on the planet to feed the population 5 times over, however, maintaining these demands and getting the food to shops without oil is another ballpark

[controlpopulation]

I have been preaching for years, we must control our population. There is no way to sustain adding 100-150 million new babies to the planet and there is no way to sustain our current population of 7.8 billion, NOT 6.8 billion as many have stated.

We must come to our senses and realize that overpopulation is the problem. Life will only get harder in the future unless we change our path.

[AryaStarkFan]

Yes, oil will probably become too expensive to burn for energy fairly soon. The key though is that no one wants oil, they want energy for air-conditioning, water pumps, medicine, pesticides, etc. You can be sure that producers of electricity will want to keep price of production low and so will develop the sources of electricity now known: wind, solar, hydro, geothermal, bio-mass, nuke, and probably some I've never heard of.

But, I love end of the world novels.

[Ninjamaster333]

Keep prices low huh? Converting our whole society from oil-burning to an alternative is going to cost money, a lot of it. That is no way to keep prices "low".

And you should know that alternative energy doesn't produce nearly as much energy as oil does.

[EVM3point0]

good luck making money off people. Another sham

[imikewillrockyou]

Dr.DiRuzzo with gas prices where they are now I can see the noose is getting tighter. Not sure where the breaking point is but getting closer everyday. A book a suggest for everyone is "Back to Basics" by Reader's Digest. It's a collection of traditional skills people used to survive. before the oil age, very good stuff to know.

[SoaringEagle5344]

China & India didn't use much oil prior to 1990 and they still managed to feed a billion of their people. And what about Cuba when they lost over 70% of their oil imports overnight after the USSR collapsed in the early 1990s? It was a difficult transistion, but Cuba managed to switch from a petroleum based industrialized agricultural system to an organic one. And what about alternative energies? Don't you think if we could build an atomic bomb & send a man to the moon that we could solve this?

[incyblak710]

Or how about Coal to Liquid technologies??? We have a shitload of coal (800 trillion kg).  Enough for conversion to liquid and power, for about 75 years more of this... but its polluting as hell.

[yogiudo]

no infrastructure.

[161803]

There are 1 trillion tons of proven coal reserves in the world--and exploration for coal has not been as thorough as that for oil, so that number is sure to go up. There are at least 1 trillion barrels of conventional recoverable oil remaining, which is about 150 billion tons. Allowing for the difference in energy density between the two and for some conversion loss in the gasification process, coal (if converted) effectively triples (at least) world oil reserves.

[Dollar88]

Great- then there will be no problem...jd

[JimboJoy]

"if converted" ha. How easy do you think it will be for the ENTIRE PLANET to convert all of our technologies to run on coal?

[161803]

Coal ~> diesel fuel for $50 barrel; many are doing it already, most notably SASOL in South Africa.

[Ninjamaster333]

Great, let's pollute the Earth more than we already do.

After all, Global Warming is already fucking us up.

[161803]

Unlike you, apparently, I'm a realist and understand that there is no magical path to lower global energy usage that doesn't involve major economic depression and the needless deaths of hundreds of millions of poor third-worlders. Thus, the future is an energy-intensive one where climate is balanced by geo-engineering strategies, such as CO2 sequestration.

[Ninjamaster333]

And just who said there was any easy way to lower global energy usage? I didn't.

Climate may be balanced out by such techniques, but that still doesn't fix the need for oil.

[161803]

Okay, I guess I read sarcasm into your comment when none existed. What exactly is your point?

[Ninjamaster333]

We're trying to stop pollution but we're still polluting nonetheless.

This is futile since Global Warming is melting polar ice causing in sea level rise.

[161803]

Who the hell cares about sea level? Screw it all, I'm going on an all beef diet.

[Ninjamaster333]

Flooding in all major costal cities including New York will cause a major economic crisis and if there's an economic crisis money will be useless. Your precious beef will stop selling.

Of course, nobody cares about the sea level rise. /sarcasm

[161803]

Rising sea levels are not a serious problem for 99.99% of people. For the areas that it's significant, poor people are screwed but nobody cares about them anyway--and rich people can easily just move to higher ground.

I'll take a 24oz ribeye, medium well, please.

[Ninjamaster333]

You sir, have one fucked up logic. And if you really believe that rising sea levels won't affect anyone but poor people, you are wrong.

The flooding will create a lot of mud that will eventually get into pure water reservoirs that will eventually come back to haunt the people who survived such flood via diseases.

[161803]

Mud? Is that the best you can do?

I really got to check my account more often. Youtube commenters are hilarious.

[Ninjamaster333]

What's this? You replied but didn't rebut my point?

I'm laughing at your inferior level of intelligence.

[161803]

Yeah, okay, you worry about the mud; such comments require no rebuttal.

Have fun at Lake Wobegone, you loser.

[Ninjamaster333]

Ad hominem.

There's no fun in debating with losers like you who only spew out shit and don't back it up.

[161803]

And yet, here you are. I only spew ad hominems at people who haven't a clue.

[Ninjamaster333]

Why should you?

It only shows idiocy.

[161803]

Dude, mud is not a problem. Mud doesn't cause disease. A more sane sounding response would be to point out the dangers of the acidification of the ocean, or something.

[Ninjamaster333]

You keep assuming I'm only talking about mud.

It's not just mud, it's the sewage, trash dumps and any other place where disease is carried during floods.

What happened when Katrina made that disaster in New Orleans? There was no pure water and fresh water had to be sent there.

It is also common sense that during floods, it is best to stay out of muddy, disease carrying-water.

[161803]

So how about I cede the point? I mean, we're talking about maybe the 15th worst affect of global warming here that could be ameliorated with something like...I dunno...a water filter?

[Ninjamaster333]

Sure thing, kiddo.

If you want to buy a filtration system for every home in costal areas not to mention buying a filter for every glass of water you want to drink, be my guest.

[161803]

I just hope for your sake that you were trying to be ironic when selecting a user name.

[Ninjamaster333]

I am really getting tired of your ad hominems.

[161803]

how about some "add homonyms," then? See what I did there? It's a self-referential pun. Smoke that, you freakin' hippy!

[161803]

Calm down: coal gasification.

[Mardasee]

What about about freezing to death. Hell, four bucks a gallon today what's it going to be next year, eight bucks?

If only somebody could come out with a woodstove that burns automobile tires instead. I could care less about pollution, I want to stay warm.

[jeffc1320]

like i've been saying lately... between this, Alex Jones' "Endgame" documentary, and Michael Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon", i officially regret not taking the blue pill when i had the chance... I truly wish i remained dumb to it all, like 99% of the people in my life.... unfortunately, i took the red pill...

[Standuble]

@jeffc1320 Taking the blue pill now just means you wake up with a start later. Enlightenment has its benefits too.

Oops very old post. Hope you are well anyway.