saying that answer is God does not answer anything, because then there rises questions about Gods creation and we can question it until the end of existence. so I see Gods existance as illogical and irrelevant for 21st century.
Guys @truthseeker4720 is a troll. You cannot argue with trolls because all their beliefs are based on faith NOT science. Just ignore him and he might just go away. If you feed him he will just bang on & on & on with his nonsense. BTW try watching QualiaSoup's excellent series of videos on Faith and Religion.
and even if we find the partial that created us and everything else.... the question is still... who created that... its a never ending story and a never ending thinking process lol
Lol these people are going to go crazy.. its beyond our minds to figure out how we got here, how the universe got here and if there is a creator. There is a creator and he is God. I mean lets be serious .. the world is this perfect for humans by ACCIDENT?????
@HeavySpinna415 please don't misunderstand, i believe in "creator" of sorts, but it could be this is how it turned out, so we are like this. if it had been different,we would be different. just providing different arguments.
Am I the only one that noticed that the shape he is talking about that explains everything looks allot like a human eye? Or maybe I'm just imagining the shape wrong..
@damncritics : Yes , I don't Know ! . The problem starts , when we think "I KNOW" . I only attempted to share my thoughts , which may differ from one to another. But thanks any ways.
So the truth is all about it "self" as a one "seed" so thats why people need more space like the cosmos if not we are all doom to destroy one another just to go back to our self again as peace or a new beginning.
there has to be a kind of God, because everything has a start, but not everything has an end, is it possible that matter was always there? Is it possible that what created matter was always there? Is it possible that the 'ingredients' of the things that created matter has always existed, I don't think so... These things are to complicated, we can't even imagine nothing, because we've never seen it. At some point in time there was nothing, and suddenly there was something, where did it came from?
@mrsanix30 :Possibilities are many . But we cannot validate certain things through Science . Perhaps , Its a wrong tool to even start with . Spirituality will be able to explain a lot better . Being judgemental , will only curb knowledge . Science changes as knowledge grows . Spirituality will never change , it has to be gained.
That's what I mean when i said these things are to complicated, everything has a begun at some point in time, but what made it begin? I dont mean a real God or something, but with God i mean something too dificult for us to understand. I believe there was an external cause for all of this, u understand?
Please somebody help me translate the part at 0:17 where it says: Religion and science were......
I want to translate this documentary in my language and maybe if I get permission to download it I`ll put subtitles on to post it on some controversial forums. It will be very interesting to hear this doc. Thanks
@superkay72 :Science and Religion the way people understand , will never go together . They are better that way . Because , both are misunderstood easily...
@truthseeker4720 "Life is dependent on the presence of Soul (Basics) . Soul is the Essence of Unconditioned Conciousness-(Intelligence)"
Do bacteria have souls? Are they intelligent? I would gather NO to both answers, and I think intelligence is subjective, because to me, you clearly don't have any...
@shadesters : If you see for your self in this universe , you are no good than a bacteria or may be smaller a bacteria!!! . Do I claim , you lack intelligence? . Think in a broader perspective. We have huge EGO for being not visible in the universe....
@shadesters :"Any Material body inhabited by a soul , will grow , reproduce , dwindle and ultimately die".This is applicable to any living being imaginably large or imaginably small in this universe. Think...
@shadesters :Presence of soul is not quantified in numbers . It is just like whiteness in the milk . Every drop of milk has whiteness. You are much smaller than a bacteria in the entire universe , It doesnot mean , you lack intelligence . Still you may have false EGO , which is striving to hold on to your way of thinking . If you understood science better , things would have been different though . Understanding science is adviced.
@truthseeker4720 "You are much smaller than a bacteria in the entire universe , It doesnot mean , you lack intelligence"
Maybe bacteria THINKS it is intelligent... maybe we only think we are too... there are probably alien races that are 1 billion years ahead of our time, and I would bet that compared to them, we aren't that intelligent...
@shadesters : "Intelligence" means inherent ability to Learn,grow,Understand,interact with one's environment with many specific abilities.A book is the same for everyone to read and grasp knowledge , but results of students are different,not because they have few Grams more or less . Understanding makes all the difference.Its a fact , there are life forms in the universe . Their capability is not even questioned . But we have Intelligence.U seem to be having a mental limitations too...
@truthseeker4720 ""Intelligence" means inherent ability to Learn,grow,Understand,interact with one's environment with many specific abilities"
Most organisms do this, ants for example, can surely learn/grow/understand and most definitely interact with their environments... would you call an ant intelligent? I would say they are to an extent, just as we are to an extent... but we shouldn't think we are the top-dogs of everything, because we surely are not...
@shadesters : Understanding Intelligence to this context is important.Ants cannot soIve a equation for you.Similarly,U cannot do what they do.But Intelligence is always there.Ants dont go to school to learn things.But they do what they do to their best ability.I say intelligence is in every living beings,creatures etc. More or less is not even discussed by me . We had lot of limitations some 100 years ago.Were do you find urself now ? Intelligence brings creativity.
@shadesters : There is no end to an extent our intelligence can grow .Intelligence growth is need and time based unless , we really want to enquire. I say we are intelligent . I dont say , we are not intelligent...
@shadesters :Live Cells expand every moment . You (your physical Body)are a product (Projected Intelligence of Live Cells) of ever expanding .This phenomena is universal . People see you and interact or respond suiting yours and their environment with many specific abilities as everyone carries this "intelligence".
There is no CREATOR or CREATION . Its MANIFESTATION or an EXPANSION of INTELLIGENCE/ENERGY.The entire Manifestation is a materialistic reflection of Energy/Intelligence. This Intelligence has many forms in it . We can see it in anything and everything around us and with in us. The projected Intelligence is what we see in material world . The existence of our material world is dependent on another thing called " Supreme Unconditional Conciousness". In short Intelligence/ "GOD" Exists.
@die101 : It "Kingdom" is not somewere out , It is with in . Its just like a small kind in a Huge Palace . He will think he is out of his place , being actually in the palace.....
Where did the "big bang" come from? How does something erupt from nothing? What's smaller than an atom that could have lended it's hand to the big bang? And how did this small particle come about if you need something to create?
@SemiKalosi M theory (the most advanced branch of string theory) explains it quite nicely. It involves the interactions of multiple space-time membranes, and was essentially a collision of universes. But beware, 11 dimensional physics is not for the faint of heart. Remember Einstein: "You'll never solve a problem with the same type of thinking that created it".
why would god create random chaos if everything is so "finely tuned" as most creationists believe? I don't find life "order out of chaos" I think life is a part of that chaos... we are not some "perfect" being created here... we adapted to life on Earth and we are still adapting, as does all life, that's what evolution is, and there are mounds of evidence to back that up...
Acceptance of what? And deciding to do something doesn't show intelligent creation... it shows intelligence in our own mind, which is driven by the brain, thanks to millions of years of evolution. If we didn't "decide" to do something, we would be robots.
Man, you are really all over the place in your reasoning! Your arguments are all personal beliefs, and nothing more. You aren't fooling anybody...
@shadesters : You have no way out , than accepting Death after Life , Accept action and not result , Accept Nature and not go against it , Accept a balanced approach towards everything not Extreme approach . Some times Good food like cheese is in a way , good for health , provided , u consume it with in ur limit , u exceed the limit , you will fall seriously ill . Energy to every one is evenly offered with out any discrimination , at least identify these sources . Contd...
@shadesters : None of the Natural Forces , we are aware off can be physically seen . We can only feel them . This is for ur info . They are uncontrollable . We can only escape , cannot stop them . Dude : We cant control even shit when it happens . We claim to be more intelligent. That's were I say , Certain things in life should be accepted , n certain things should be validated . Understand things ,they are better than knowing things.Better understanding leads to better application.
@shadesters : " Deciding on Doing Something ? Naa . deciding on Doing Good Deeds . It is said , Humans are rational beings with reasoning capability and possess comparatively high level of intellectual properties. Please dont ask a proof for this again . If this is so , why dont we create things that are out of these local Laws and Local Properties ? . This is mainly , because , we dont attempt to see beyond what is usual. U should feel lucky being a human,with oppurtunity to realize IT.
@truthseeker4720 I hate you SO much, you are the textbook definition of a religious zealot. You are what is wrong with this WORLD. There is no human soul, there is intelligence in us, not given to us. There is no god, it is a fake invention for those that were unable to cope with the thought of our lives ending indefinitely. Go join your fellow fundamentalists and drink the purple kool-aid. SCIENCE is real, not your fake god. Have fun rotting in the ground with the rest of us, you stupid fuck.
@Rorix57 : All the emotions are aspects of this very soul . It is an inprint with which creatures are born with an unfulfilled purpose . You are the projected Intelligence of your soul . It is not your physical being , which is hating me . Ur physical being is just a carrier of all these emotions . The non physical element called soul is Eternal , will never die . This is the cause of different Life forms in the cycle of Life and Death. Achieve perfection in good emotions .I dont hate anyone...
@Rorix57 :It is like sugarcane being born to know how sweet it is . Nothing in this world or the universe , makes sense with out a physical representation,coz thats what we are.This should not lead us to ignorance , rejecting the presence of soul (intelligence conditioned to this nature) . I dont see you with out ur physical existence(its a limitation) . We all are equal when we sleep . No emotions whatsoever , but the moment presence takes over the sleep state , we act differently .
@Rorix57 Yeah, I can't follow a single thing he says either... he's all over the place... he thinks he knows the purpose of everything in the universe or something... I'm not even going to respond to him
@shadesters : Hey! No worries buddy!!! . lets agree to disagree , anyways , truth never changes inspite of all arguements . Lets be friends at least....No more posting from my side , unless , you wish to seek some more insight around this.. Relax n breath fresh air.
@truthseeker4720 Yes, lets agree to disagree... however I strongly disagree with your statement "truth never changes inspite of all arguements "
Are you saying that you have the 100% correct truth? Then you should be able to prove to others why you are correct, without resorting to beliefs/faith. So where is this proof?
@shadesters :Yes my friend , Waking a sleeping guy is easier than the one sleeping intentionally . You have to listen carefully and give a thaught to what I say . Ask me what you need to know . Shall be more than glad to clarify . You should think with an open mind , what ever I say . World of truth is lot more complicated ,than what we think . We make it even more complicated by not even giving a thaught to it.
@shadesters : Any Material Body inhabited by a soul will undergo changes . It will be created , It will grow , It will produce its by product (Offsprings) , It will dwindle and ultimately It will die . If this not true , then Show me , living entities being produced by chemical combinations . Life or conciousness is itself a symptom of a soul . The absence of this soul indicates death of physical matter (Body). Please think what is shared and revert back.
@truthseeker4720 I don't think you understand what a fact is. You seem to say alot of things as if they are already proven. You have no proof that a soul causes these changes, you also have no proof of the soul to begin with. You're statement has no validity because you have no evidence of an idea you created from literally NOTHING. Just because I can't create life for you doesn't mean it's impossible, it just means I don't know how. By the way, plants die, animals die, suns die...
@AsmodeusLoves : So funny , U look for evidence outside you and not with in you .Dont tell me u cant stike a difference between u and a stone? This is the fact , Look around U, analyze this piece of information . (Conditions of Birth , Growth , Reproduction , Dwindle and ultimately Death) . Apply this everywhere ,Even , Universe passes thru life and death . Its impossible to make humans from nothing,it requires God like science . I've seen physically blind peolpe , U r are mentally blind. Contd
@truthseeker4720 It doesn't require GOD, you literally just made a statement with no backing. Once again you are creating "facts" from nothing. We cannot have an intelligent conversation unless you are able to use intelligence in your side of the conversation. If you are going to just make blank statements then I will as well. I created the universe, I am GOD, I've lost all abilities & I am currently stuck in human state with all limitations humans face. I condem you to "hell".
@AsmodeusLoves : What do you think God should look like for you ? . What would be his behavioral traits?? By what means u will expect his presence? THIS would be the BASIS for UNDERSTANDING YOU and discussion...
@truthseeker4720 No it shouldn't you retarded. You have to prove his existence first & then we can have a discussion about him. Other wise it's as relevant as asking what Santa Clause looks like to you or the easter bunny or any other imaginary creature. I understand me to the best of my current ability, I don't need some ridiculous idea/creature to know who I am.
@AsmodeusLoves : HEY!!! u have lost , the ability to think as well? . We definitely cannot have sensible conversation . I believe in spirituality , that is eternal . Science is ever changing . It will change as intelligence increases . No matter , how high u fly , you have to land on the ground , one day....It all starts with , What God should be like if he is ?? . This might help in ur pattern of understanding....
@truthseeker4720 You have a belief in something that you have no evidence for, arguing with you is pointless. You are literally mentally unstable. If I were you I would seriously look into phychological help.
@AsmodeusLoves :Aspect of Liquidity of Liquid , Aspect of solidity in Solid Substance , Aspect of Heat in Fire , Aspect of Magnetism with magnet etc are some of the examples of Objective and Subjective Aspects or any study (Science) . Presence of one is dependent on another.Similarly , Life is dependent on the presence of Soul (Basics) . Soul is the Essence of Unconditioned Conciousness-(Intelligence).This is everywhere and in everyone . I dont think you lack intelligence......
@AsmodeusLoves : Think , how you build your thaughts physically (Birth of a Baby) out of nothing . In lay man terms we are the ghosts in the machine (applicable to every living entity). Its a fact you cannot create life out of nothing "Scientifically" . Acceptance is the Fact , No escape root available as a conditioned being. Science can only put forth the facts thru tons of data . It will fail to answer WHY ???
@truthseeker4720 Saying we require GOD is the escape used for a true pursuit of answers. The idea that the universe just existed is in equal ratio to the idea that "GOD" just existed. Until you investigate it more & realise that for "GOD" to have just existed & then create the universe adds more steps into an idea that has no true backing. He isn't necessary, so the probability of his existence from nothing (& then creating everything) is lower than the universe just existing.
@truthseeker4720 & by the way, who you are is dictated by mainly enviorment & some what genetics. Your emotions are chemical reactions within the body creating a "feeling". You memories & everything that you are is within or controlled by your brain. The idea that "you" would exist after your body decays is laughable. It is typically believed by weak people that can't accept the idea of non-existence. I always hope for an afterlife, but I there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to believe
@AsmodeusLoves : Please undergo Regression Therapy to know what u were in your past life , may be u will find ur purpose a little bit . YOUR SOUL IS ETERNAL , YOUR PHYSICAL BEING is UNREAL . Its False(Meaning Temperory) EGO . UR Identity as a physical being is Temperory . UR Soul is Eternal . PLEASE UNDERGO a REGRESSION THERAPY . I can understand , How u could be wrong ? is really difficult to swallow . Dont argue , please give a thought to it if u r capable of thinking ..
@AsmodeusLoves :I dont attribute a shadow to be real , since its existence is dependent on Light source and a material object . Similarly, I dont attribute , our material body to be real as Its existence is dependent on Mind and Awareness . Understanding this is crucial , but very Important. Our Material Body is TEMPERORY , The Soul is ETERNAL. Every one has this intelligence , Using it makes all the difference!!!
@AsmodeusLoves :Regression Therapy , is the only way to find out ur past life and future life as well . Why do you feel angry about this? . Well if you dont believe , Regression Therapy is the way out . If you Dont want to Intentionally believe , then dont conclude ,saying There is no afterlife.After all Rejecting what we dont understand is a very common human character. Do some brainstorming excercise....
@AsmodeusLoves .Shit isn't magical , true , but if it doen't happen , Am affraid , u will have to get admitted to make it happen. Thinking about normal happenings are important and essential too . Life is as easy as eating and shitting . U dont need an understanding of digestion , coz it does not wait for ur permission .But Enquiry of this proccess has lead to a different stream of study and proffessionals (Doctors understanding ur body parts and functions) .Close ur Back , Its smelling now.
@AsmodeusLoves :Its your emotions/feelings creating your Bodily actions . Mind creates thoughts all the time . Your Awareness " Present at this moment" evaluates your thoughts and responds accordingly . Imagine , you are driving car with answering a phone call . The moment you loose Awareness , You r at a higher risk of an accident . Ur existence is dependent on soul , like , Magnet is dependent on Magnetism .Absence of latter makes it an ordinary stone.(Objective and subjective Aspects)
Science is not a collection of facts - it is a way of understanding the universe using objective verification. Your understanding of science is appalling, and you would be laughed out of my biology lab. Science answers "why" questions all the time - if you were a scientist, you would know this. Please refrain from speaking on topics which you clearly don't understand. You're making yourself look like a fool.
@timextoxlive :Good , Atleast you understand , Science is a way of Understanding the Universe using OBJECTIVE VERIFICATION ONLY . UNLESS YOU DONT USE SUBJECTIVE VARIFICATION , YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS UNIVERSE IS INCOMPLETE . THAT'S EXACTLY,I AM TRYING TO CONVEY. "SUBJECTIVE AND OBJECTIVE ASPECTS" IS COMPLETE VERIFICATION . By the Way , Please explain , WHY ARE YOU IN THIS WORLD , WHAT's YOUR PURPOSE OF EXISTENCE? Please answer thru Science if it does so....
@truthseeker4720 The subjective nature of reality is only based in conscious experience. Please, if you could, define subjective verification. There is no such thing. When you and I look at something red, there is no way to verify that we are perceiving the same color, because perception of color is subjective. However, both you and I can agree that red light is ~650nm. Additionally, since hallucination and other consciousness based oddities are known to exist, your argument falls apart.
@timextoxlive : Everybody understands or rather , knows science . Things that you experience cannot be quantified and factified , at least the way you expect it to be . If you had known what Science is for so many years , then you are using a wrong tool , or may be incomplete tool to arrive the .Its like you claiming there are no germs , using a normal spectacles . Use a Microscope and you will find only germs around.Be spiritual as well to seek wisdom.
@shadesters : Oh , You lack analyzing capabilities . Sorry . You are a wrong person with wrong persuit. May be wrong person with right persuit . May be or may not be???? Confused Organism.....
@truthseeker4720 "Oh , You lack analyzing capabilities . Sorry . You are a wrong person with wrong persuit. May be wrong person with right persuit . May be or may not be???? Confused Organism....."
I lack analyzing capabilities? Are you serious? YOU are the one using fairy-tales and no evidence to try to back up your claims, whereas I stick to the science... yet I am the one lacking analyzing capabilities? From here on out, I am considering you a troll. Please go away.
@shadesters : Friend , I really dont need to proove ITS " GOD" existence in you and in this universe . You can as well say , U dont believe in the Intelligence you carry with you . But I believe , U R Intelligent . The Consciousness that prompts u of Good & Bad / Right & Wrong/Happiness & Sorrow/etc, effects of your actions . UR Awareness is intelligent than your senses , UR Mind is intelligent than your Awareness , UR Conditioned conciousness (Soul) is Intelligent than your Mind. Contd.
@truthseeker4720 There is no right & wrong/good & bad, that is a completely subjective theoretical thought; it's absolutely philosophical with no true answer. Happiness & sorrow is chemical reactions within your body. Your "proof" of a soul is so easily dismissed. Your entire belief system is based on NOTHING, you are as good as a child believeing in monsters under their bed.
@AsmodeusLoves : What prompts these chemical reactions with in your Body ? Why it has to Happen at first instance? For Ex: We donot attribute shadow to be real , because , the shadow does not have independent existence (Object and light are needed),Similarly , our material body is dependent on our Mind and Awareness .Mind keeps wandering and not being is the present moment . Awareness is the "Power of Now" . It is in the present moment.
@shadesters :The "Conditioned Conciousness" is what inhabits the Material Body .This is known as Soul . This will keep changing from one material body to another . Soul transmigrates from one creature to another in its journey , Soul , inhabiting a human body , rather , you being born as human , is a lucky flick , an opurtunity for a higher level of enquiry . This life of urs as human is precious one . It should not be wasted in filthy arguements , rather , employ it for a better cause"Enquiry"
@Rorix57 : We are fools to assume ocean being blue in color despite,being aware, Water is Color less . Fact is just like the ocean water ex: . Knowing is essential , understanding is very important.Everything is around us , v identify n name with the help of science that's it. Science and Spirituality should coexist like blueness in the ocean inspite of being colorless. It is hopeless if both compete against eachother , coz spirituality remains unchanged , Science is everchanging ,n it should
@adadega : Its a play . We all are the spectators . He is the doer. We are just acting as per things around us. We, inclusive of all that u see around has only one way out "ACTION" .Good can survive only when bad also exists . We need to achieve that delicate balance in life . Its the ultimate purpose .
@truthseeker4720 ". U r so ignorant , that u don't realize it is keeping u alive (Soul)."
But you call me the ignorant one? Prove to me a soul exists and then we will talk. Until then, shut the fuck up and stop calling people who do not believe in fairy-tales ignorant.
@shadesters : Sleep next to a dead man . See for your self and differentiate . This is enough to prove the soul exists . Grow up at least now. Use of better language is expected out of us being educated.
@shadesters : Absence of some thing is presence of something else . Presence of death means absence of life . They never coexist at an individual level . Presence of Darkness means absence of Light . If u say soul does not exist , then u r dead . Choose which makes sense .
@shadesters :It is improbable , to find such an order came out of a Chaos. Means to sustain life that is able to develope technology .Let man not think , he is unique to this world . Rather , he is a part of this Unique design designed by a Designer / Manifestation / GOD. It is a situation , Every thing and Every one is in him , but he is in no one , except for few of them who have realized him (IT). We r just like characters on the screen , neither effecting the screen,nor the source.
If through some electromagnetic modulation my brain is made to feel that my mother is around me, it does NOT mean She does not exist. So if some one can do the same with GOD?..........
See? Morgan Freeman does not belive in any religion, for how can he belive in what he knows is not true, but he does not deny divine beings, for how can he deny the divine any more than we can deny our living. Freeman is our god and protecter, i have made my evidence :D
@cussingbatman :Indepth Study of any subject of interest is nothing but Science . Science is creating what is already present , by way of knowing things . A force called Gravity as an example , is present since ancient days , Newton gave a name to it and it is known to us as Gravity these days. Science , at the most can only produce facts through extensive data of how things r , the way they look like . Never it can reveal "WHY" . This will be a perineal limitation with science...contd
@cussingbatman : Intelligence commonly termed as "GOD" is in itself authenticates "Its"-Referred to as "GOD" presence . Infact , this is our limitation as humans . No doubt , Science has helped this society in may ways , but at the same time , it cannot replace "God". This intelligence is Eternal , Unconditional , Pure , Undescribable , Undestructive , the very great force being the very inherent nature . It lives beyond any reasoning and independent. After all we are humans....
@truthseeker4720 thanks for making to to reply to 'cussingbatman' I found both parts in total an interesting read (btw for the most part well put)
I'm curious about your choice to use "No doubt" rather than for example 'for sure' or 'it is true' ...or any other term that supports as you put forth "Science has helped this society in may ways"
@gaiagale : Science Can Explain How things happen ? It will never explain Why Things Happen ? . Unless , it studies objective (Currently studied) and subjective aspects(Often rejected for lack of Evidences) .I consider both Science and Spirituality in equal terms . Each one is incomplete without one another. Science will change as and when it advances , Spirituality does not. Its eternal..
@truthseeker4720 If its undescribable, then how are you describing it to me now? Surely if it was undescribable then you shouldn't even know what you're on about. Also, give it a rest would you. You act as if you know that there is a God, when really we're all the same, we don't know anything yet. You don't, i don't, nobody does. Untill we get better anwsers. Right now, you're being arogant sugesting that you know exactly whats going on. Get down from your high horse please.
@truthseeker4720 Please explain why i should be the one that needs to wake up? If its you that in fact needs to wake up. You seem to think that you know more than everyone else. As if you KNOW there is a God. But no, please tell me. I think its you that should get a hold of your imagination Sir, try and keep in control of it if you do somehow get it back. Because i think you'll find, the idea of God only works if the person believing is either deluded beyond anything or just plain retarded.
@truthseeker4720 No actually, i was away playing some Battlefield 3, am i not allowed to do that now? Sorry faggot. Also, stop trolling, as you're bad at it. Why is it that you didnt explain to me why it is me that should be waking up? For now, i'll just take it as if you simply can't. You believe in God? Where has it got you? Absolutly fucking no where. Its you that should be waking up friend. Waking up from your deluded state of mind.
@1123joey : Don't question me on ur ignorance . Question ur self on your very purpose of existence in this world ? Dig deep , don't scratch on the surface and post your comment irresponsibly . U r no where in the stage of enquring these aspects . Don't waste other's time please......U r unfit for this , inspite of being a human (Mistakingly I guess).......
@truthseeker4720 why must there be some ultimate purpose to our existence? why is there water on mars? what's the purpose of that? Oh, I forgot, there is no purpose... we just are here, and if we weren't, we wouldn't care because we wouldn't exist
stop pretending like your invisible god has some "purpose" for us all... If a god existed it wouldn't need to create anything, especially anything for a "purpose"
@shadesters :Ask your self . Y U do what U do ? . Y not do what thoughts come to ur mind randomly ? . What is stopping U from Committing Crime like any seasoned criminal ? . Find a purpose of ur very existence , this is would be a Goal worth looking out for. Being a human with brains , don't pretend , as if U r a big fool in this grand plan..."MAN IS THE DREAM OF GOD" (As a Part of Entire Manifestation).
@truthseeker4720 Why do I do what I do? To better society, because I cherish my fellow human beings more than your god does... I didn't make humans to rot here on this crazy Earth, so I am trying to make things better... as are most scientists... that's why we now have comforts like abundant food, electricity, cars, clean water, etc... To make things better here... that's why I do what I do... I don't NEED to believe in a god to be a good person... Do you need a book to tell you to be good?
@shadesters :U r just the spectator , not the doer . Everything is happening around you . This so call intelligence (commonly reffered to as God) is not some one seperate with a seperate entity . It is the Essence we define as God. This intelligence is so powerfull , It does not allow you to stop breathing as well . U r so ignorant , that u don't realize it is keeping u alive (Soul).U r the spectator only , not the Doer . Nothing is in ur Control . Not even anger.
@shadesters :Ha Ha Ha , It is like you r tryin to say , I breathe , but I will not believe in breath. Think what is purpose of your existence? . Aggression does not work......
@truthseeker4720 Why must there be a puropse? Maybe we were just a cosmic accident... stop trying to read into things... you are trying to find a purpose in things when all you are is an ant trapped in an ant farm... what purpose would a god have to make us on Earth and then we die and go to heaven? Wouldn't it be smarter to just make us directly in heaven? I make what little time I have here nice, and then I move on, wherever that may be after death, that's it...
@shadesters : " Why must there be a purpose? Its every scientists quest. Every human is after this Important Question ? . How everything in this world is perfect ? and suits our very existence . This is not an accident . Why You Dream and react to the virtual reality after all ,when you know Dream is a Dream ? . This itself indicates " Manifestation is Dream of God" . You are just a Spectator not the Doer . Things r happening around You . Realize this uniqueness.Heaven n Hell are here only.
@shadesters : It is your Ego , which is limiting you from knowing the unknown . To know these complexities of the Unique Creation , One has to analyse it with an open mind . I can feel God (Goodness , Intelligence)in every thing . Thrash your ego , which only nurtures Ignorance , not knowledge. It is our inherent nature to be happy in everything . Why do we seek only Happiness , n not the opposite . We pain ourselves , on the verge of looking for it out side n not within.
@shadesters :Dear Sir, Your remarks implicate , You don't acknowledge science also . Understand the definition of Science first : "Indepth Study (Enquiry)of any subject is known as science" .Science will continue to have this imp limitation as it is of objective study . The question of "WHY" will exist as the subjective study is not percieved still . U seem to be rejecting both Science and spirituality. In short , it means , you are out of context to this forum , no reference what so ever.
@truthseeker4720 Im out of context because I can't see this invisible "reason" why we are here, like you can? Yes, you are the one person who has all the answers to life. So please, enlighten me with your infinite, divine knowledge of the universe.
@shadesters : I have never asked others . Neither I am fully enlightened . But I do have a piece of intelligence which gives me an incredible feeling of "Its" Presence , being everywhere. This quest has to be personal one and it is better experienced that way . Please pounder on Questions starting from "WHY?" . These are difficult to answer though . Worth answering yourself. However If you still want to understand , Then We have to convince ourselves about "ITS" Presence..God is what we name him
@shadesters :We are not an outcome of a Cosmic accident . It would be improbable to find such order out of a chaos . There is an organizing principle . Dream can explain a lot if u attempt to think about it . Everything is perfect in dream , taking to a virtual world . It does make you feel thinks as well . This is a solid evidence enough to say It is the energy , leading to manifestation of a physical Matter . A thaught creates many things in our lives . We simply fail to realize these things.
@truthseeker4720 Seeing a dead person does not prove souls exist. You are saying we had to be created, but who created god? You see things as creation, I see things that have always existed, infinitely. God to you is some being, god to me is matter and energy. Trust me, a 2000 year old book full of bad science and immorality does not hold the answers to life. I prefer to be a free-thinker, and clinging to backwards ideologies from ancient civilizations is the opposite of that. End of story.
@truthseeker4720 You are right about one thing, though, energy leading to manifestation of matter. We are, literally, matter from dead stars, which created matter when they died out. Carbon, which our life is based on, would not exist without this process. It's called nucleosynthesis. That, right there, is my creator, my god.
@shadesters :Every single posting of mine just speaks about God referred to as "IT" which means eternal Intelligence . It is not subject to Gender Distinction. It is not a creator , But the Manifestation . It is projected Intelligence . Sun has its rays. Rays inturn as a source of energy brings things to life . Things work the way they are and has multifold effect on each and every living and non living things in and around us . This Infinite Intelligence is named by different religions.
@truthseeker4720 I just don't see what you see as "intelligent"? That would indicate some thought process, which I see none, even though I see energy/matter/life/etc...
The universe is not "intelligent" and there is no reason to believe in intelligent design, especially a person who doesn't believe in a god as a "being"
@shadesters : force , that keeps things working with utmost perfection , Continuous , Constant , Buit in Matrix of Cause and Effect . For Ex : source of Energy , that's out of Local Laws, still influences the entire workings,Eg: Sun's energy influence , every living and non living in our world.Form of energy is seen in terms of Vegetation with fruits , animals with food products. The effect of balanced consumption leads to its effects.(Cause and Effect matrix) with out any expectation. Contd
@shadesters : This happenings are intelligent . You might experience a Deep sleep state , but it does not forget to keep you alive , even though , you forget ur physical existence , means , If you have noticed , at deep sleep state , you dont feel pain initially , ones ur presence wakes, u slowly start feeling ur senses which is in sleep state , But ,U breath with out forgeting , This is the aspect of intelligence conditioned to nature . Unconditioned Pure Conciousness is Supreme reality. "GOD"
@truthseeker4720 No, no god needed... energy doesn't get destroyed, only transferred, so all of these "continuous constant forces" are just energy doing what it does, jump from one thing to the next... and the rest of what you typed, I don't quite understand... breathing without forgetting? That's because the brain is active 24/7 until you die... no intelligence needed... people who are brain dead need machines to breathe for them... I don't get your point on how this proves intelligence...
@shadesters : Y should ur brain work ? . Y cant you control the functioning of ur brain to increase your life time , similar to how we switch off all equipments when not in use ? . This is simply not in control at all . Brain is the carrier of Intelligence , which is all around you . UR identity is only based on your physical presence , which is nill if that intelligence is out of ur brains (Brain Dead) .Intelligence what we carry with us is nothing but an element of unconditional one.Contd.
@truthseeker4720 "Y cant you control the functioning of ur brain to increase your life "
Ummm, because your brain doesn't determine the length of your life.
How willfuly ignorant are you? Pick up a science book for a change, you might actually LEARN something.
Intelligence is the nueral pathways in the certain lobes of the brain. Brain size itself isn't even considered a main reason for intelligence, which is my dolphins are super-smart yet have brains that are much smaller than a pigs brain
@shadesters : Nothing is possible by us humans , except for actions . Eventful life is essential than mere longitivity . I believe in Living every moment and not mere existence. The more u struggle , the Matrix is in place to make u tired . What is that life which is not lived at that moment , than mere existence. We are all conditioned to this nature or so called intelligence...
@shadesters : The design of everything in this world u see is intelligent . Nothing is with out a reason . Compare ur self to every one and thing around . Why everything has to happen the way it is happening ? Why at all , we all are here in this world ? Why the world is the way we see it? . Science has given us spectacles to have clarity of vision . It is brain that concludes thru vision . Specs is essential.Sight has to be there too . Similarly , Science is essential , but with spirituality.
@shadesters :This unconditional Conciousness is everywhere (Space). Supreme and Unconditional Reality which is Eternal or Real , Rest of All that you see around you and ur own physical presence is exactly opposite . Absolutely true , No God needed , with out acceptance or rejection , u still continue to exist . Living is what everyone looks forward to . Being happy all the time is our inherent nature . Since we are conditioned to twin opposites , we get in to problems and there by pain. Contd
@truthseeker4720 "This unconditional Conciousness is everywhere (Space). "
No. When you are dead, there is no more conciousness... your brain is your conciousness. When you die, you have no more brain, therefore you have no more conciousness. You cease to exist because everything you are, is in the brain. Anything else is just a belief with no scientific backing. Beliefs do not always equal reality, even if you want to believe that so badly...
@shadesters :Birth and Death is inevitable . Due u agree or disagree with this ? It is a continous proccess . Escaping this cycle is essential . U cannot change this neither I can change this , but what we can do is look at atleast escaping this cycle of birth and death , by guarding our thoughts , actions , awareness etc , etc.If u need more evidence , please undergo a regression therapy to know ur past life . May be u will have an answer...
@shadesters : That's exactly I am saying . I am Unreal (Not eternal) , Conditioned Conciousness (Soul) , My self is real (Eternal) . Ur soul or conditioned conciousness/conditioned intelligence is displayed as ur physical being . U(Physical Identity) are the projected Intelligence of ur self(Soul). U r temperory , ur soul is permanent . Ur self will change identity everytime it is in this world (Cycle of Birth and Death).
@shadesters :Acceptance is the only way out . Action is in ur control , not the result , Right action is guarded by this conditioned conciousness in our selves . Before u act , This conciousness prompts u of twin opposites (Good or Bad) as a human , u tend to be with good actions , or else the matrix of cause and effect follows ur actions . This is intelligent in nature . Something which is constant and continous in nature . We need to guard our conciousness by appreciating and respecting .contd
@shadesters :Unconditional Respect to this very nature which is Intelligent is nothing but worship . This unconditional Conciousness is what ,every one is worshipping with different names and forms . God is not subjected to Gender . So he is reffered to as "IT" . IT is One Nothingness and Infinite (Space).
@shadesters : There is no creator . This is manifestation (Expansion of devine intelligence) . We are within the Intelligence and not out of it . U (physical being)are the projected Intelligence of your soul/self , similarly , The entire manifestation is the projected Intelligence of the Supreme Reality (Intelligence Everywhere) . This Devine Intelligence is Eternal/Real/Untimate Reality .Projected Intelligence is Unreal/Perishable/not of permanent nature.(God is in everyone , no one is in him)
@truthseeker4720 You tell me not to question you on my ignorance, yet here you are stating that theres a God, yet you have no proof what so ever, you fucking idiot, and please shut the fuck up. Also, why i don't do random things that i come to think of? or why i don't commit crimes? you know why? because i'm a decent human being, i have nothing to do with a fact idea. I don't need to spend my time thinking about a God when i already know its not real, when its just an idea.
everywhere i go i always see that related video "maintain eye contact".
watchWorld100 23 hours ago
of course there is god. the next quest is: what is god, who is god, what god does, why god creates human, etc.
soerism 4 days ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
That Allan guy reminds me of Jim Carry somehow
JoyeeTheOtherKid 4 days ago
thank you i wanted to watch this but never did
gjm346 5 days ago
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Jimmery301 6 days ago
saying that answer is God does not answer anything, because then there rises questions about Gods creation and we can question it until the end of existence. so I see Gods existance as illogical and irrelevant for 21st century.
MisterBerazumis 1 week ago 2
RY Legit - The Creator
Brought Me Here
kurtkestell 1 week ago
I believe in Creation and The Creator~
Alyce58 2 weeks ago
ATHEISTS FTW
imonars 2 weeks ago 11
It really fits with him because he was God While on the "Bruce Almighty"
frankjaker 2 weeks ago 7
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Guys @truthseeker4720 is a troll. You cannot argue with trolls because all their beliefs are based on faith NOT science. Just ignore him and he might just go away. If you feed him he will just bang on & on & on with his nonsense. BTW try watching QualiaSoup's excellent series of videos on Faith and Religion.
andygray 3 weeks ago
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andygray 3 weeks ago
Really risky episode but it was mind blowing as always
OMGpancakesGaming 3 weeks ago
oh morgan
Hughdapu 3 weeks ago
Cliffhanger at the end :0
victoneter 3 weeks ago
the only thing missing is the drop
AsianAvenger1 1 month ago
I think so to but we don't ever die. Don't listen to anyone but you. Love you all.
astoundingproduct 1 month ago
Only death have seen truth about this universe. I think when we die we will get answers.
alkabash66 1 month ago
and even if we find the partial that created us and everything else.... the question is still... who created that... its a never ending story and a never ending thinking process lol
HeavySpinna415 1 month ago in playlist More videos from ZZZFROMHELLZZZ
Lol these people are going to go crazy.. its beyond our minds to figure out how we got here, how the universe got here and if there is a creator. There is a creator and he is God. I mean lets be serious .. the world is this perfect for humans by ACCIDENT?????
HeavySpinna415 1 month ago in playlist More videos from ZZZFROMHELLZZZ
@HeavySpinna415 please don't misunderstand, i believe in "creator" of sorts, but it could be this is how it turned out, so we are like this. if it had been different,we would be different. just providing different arguments.
chingchombuela 2 weeks ago
@chingchombuela Oh yes i understand im only doing the same LOL.
HeavySpinna415 2 weeks ago
Morgan Freeman is the creator!
666JumpStyler666 1 month ago
why we try to understand the impossible?because its in our nature, to ask questions...
TheGlobalMindProject 1 month ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
I want to be Garrett Lisi when I grow up. He gets to do what he loves whenever he wants to.
sarahsoflyassaphire 1 month ago
Am I the only one that noticed that the shape he is talking about that explains everything looks allot like a human eye? Or maybe I'm just imagining the shape wrong..
bluefire9998 1 month ago
@truthseeker4720 You seem very enlightened and unbiased. I like that, it's a rare thing on YouTube.
damncritics 1 month ago
@damncritics : Yes , I don't Know ! . The problem starts , when we think "I KNOW" . I only attempted to share my thoughts , which may differ from one to another. But thanks any ways.
truthseeker4720 1 month ago
Self multiplying star.
Self multiplying bacterial.
Self producing mineral
Self survible instinct.
Self balance reaction
Self growing living organism
So the truth is all about it "self" as a one "seed" so thats why people need more space like the cosmos if not we are all doom to destroy one another just to go back to our self again as peace or a new beginning.
Sonyoooo3 2 months ago
there has to be a kind of God, because everything has a start, but not everything has an end, is it possible that matter was always there? Is it possible that what created matter was always there? Is it possible that the 'ingredients' of the things that created matter has always existed, I don't think so... These things are to complicated, we can't even imagine nothing, because we've never seen it. At some point in time there was nothing, and suddenly there was something, where did it came from?
mrsanix30 2 months ago
@mrsanix30 :Possibilities are many . But we cannot validate certain things through Science . Perhaps , Its a wrong tool to even start with . Spirituality will be able to explain a lot better . Being judgemental , will only curb knowledge . Science changes as knowledge grows . Spirituality will never change , it has to be gained.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@mrsanix30 If there was nothing, how was there God?
sambrhoe 1 month ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
@sambrhoe
That's what I mean when i said these things are to complicated, everything has a begun at some point in time, but what made it begin? I dont mean a real God or something, but with God i mean something too dificult for us to understand. I believe there was an external cause for all of this, u understand?
mrsanix30 1 month ago
Please somebody help me translate the part at 0:17 where it says: Religion and science were......
I want to translate this documentary in my language and maybe if I get permission to download it I`ll put subtitles on to post it on some controversial forums. It will be very interesting to hear this doc. Thanks
zmzizi 2 months ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
@zmzizi Science and Religon were bitter foes..
superkay72 2 months ago
@superkay72 Thank you superkay.
zmzizi 2 months ago
@superkay72 :Science and Religion the way people understand , will never go together . They are better that way . Because , both are misunderstood easily...
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 True!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at least you know!
HeavySpinna415 1 month ago in playlist More videos from ZZZFROMHELLZZZ
God can not be explained intellectually....
BackSideOFFThemoon 2 months ago
@BackSideOFFThemoon :God can be only and only experienced.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 "Life is dependent on the presence of Soul (Basics) . Soul is the Essence of Unconditioned Conciousness-(Intelligence)"
Do bacteria have souls? Are they intelligent? I would gather NO to both answers, and I think intelligence is subjective, because to me, you clearly don't have any...
shadesters 2 months ago
@shadesters : If you see for your self in this universe , you are no good than a bacteria or may be smaller a bacteria!!! . Do I claim , you lack intelligence? . Think in a broader perspective. We have huge EGO for being not visible in the universe....
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@shadesters :"Any Material body inhabited by a soul , will grow , reproduce , dwindle and ultimately die".This is applicable to any living being imaginably large or imaginably small in this universe. Think...
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@shadesters :Presence of soul is not quantified in numbers . It is just like whiteness in the milk . Every drop of milk has whiteness. You are much smaller than a bacteria in the entire universe , It doesnot mean , you lack intelligence . Still you may have false EGO , which is striving to hold on to your way of thinking . If you understood science better , things would have been different though . Understanding science is adviced.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 "You are much smaller than a bacteria in the entire universe , It doesnot mean , you lack intelligence"
Maybe bacteria THINKS it is intelligent... maybe we only think we are too... there are probably alien races that are 1 billion years ahead of our time, and I would bet that compared to them, we aren't that intelligent...
shadesters 2 months ago
@shadesters : "Intelligence" means inherent ability to Learn,grow,Understand,interact with one's environment with many specific abilities.A book is the same for everyone to read and grasp knowledge , but results of students are different,not because they have few Grams more or less . Understanding makes all the difference.Its a fact , there are life forms in the universe . Their capability is not even questioned . But we have Intelligence.U seem to be having a mental limitations too...
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
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@truthseeker4720 ""Intelligence" means inherent ability to Learn,grow,Understand,interact with one's environment with many specific abilities"
Most organisms do this, ants for example, can surely learn/grow/understand and most definitely interact with their environments... would you call an ant intelligent? I would say they are to an extent, just as we are to an extent... but we shouldn't think we are the top-dogs of everything, because we surely are not...
shadesters 2 months ago
@shadesters : Understanding Intelligence to this context is important.Ants cannot soIve a equation for you.Similarly,U cannot do what they do.But Intelligence is always there.Ants dont go to school to learn things.But they do what they do to their best ability.I say intelligence is in every living beings,creatures etc. More or less is not even discussed by me . We had lot of limitations some 100 years ago.Were do you find urself now ? Intelligence brings creativity.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@shadesters : There is no end to an extent our intelligence can grow .Intelligence growth is need and time based unless , we really want to enquire. I say we are intelligent . I dont say , we are not intelligent...
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@shadesters :Live Cells expand every moment . You (your physical Body)are a product (Projected Intelligence of Live Cells) of ever expanding .This phenomena is universal . People see you and interact or respond suiting yours and their environment with many specific abilities as everyone carries this "intelligence".
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
There is no CREATOR or CREATION . Its MANIFESTATION or an EXPANSION of INTELLIGENCE/ENERGY.The entire Manifestation is a materialistic reflection of Energy/Intelligence. This Intelligence has many forms in it . We can see it in anything and everything around us and with in us. The projected Intelligence is what we see in material world . The existence of our material world is dependent on another thing called " Supreme Unconditional Conciousness". In short Intelligence/ "GOD" Exists.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
18:23 if we did find out, then it will be thy kingdom come
die101 2 months ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
@die101 : It "Kingdom" is not somewere out , It is with in . Its just like a small kind in a Huge Palace . He will think he is out of his place , being actually in the palace.....
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
Nonesense....
TheMortician4 2 months ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
Where did the "big bang" come from? How does something erupt from nothing? What's smaller than an atom that could have lended it's hand to the big bang? And how did this small particle come about if you need something to create?
SemiKalosi 2 months ago
@SemiKalosi M theory (the most advanced branch of string theory) explains it quite nicely. It involves the interactions of multiple space-time membranes, and was essentially a collision of universes. But beware, 11 dimensional physics is not for the faint of heart. Remember Einstein: "You'll never solve a problem with the same type of thinking that created it".
timextoxlive 2 months ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
@SemiKalosi :Big Bang Creates Babies , Y not a Universe and many more Universes of them.........Might seem funny , yet it is a reality.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
and as for your "order out of chaos" reasoning...
why would god create random chaos if everything is so "finely tuned" as most creationists believe? I don't find life "order out of chaos" I think life is a part of that chaos... we are not some "perfect" being created here... we adapted to life on Earth and we are still adapting, as does all life, that's what evolution is, and there are mounds of evidence to back that up...
shadesters 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 "Acceptance is the only way out "
Acceptance of what? And deciding to do something doesn't show intelligent creation... it shows intelligence in our own mind, which is driven by the brain, thanks to millions of years of evolution. If we didn't "decide" to do something, we would be robots.
Man, you are really all over the place in your reasoning! Your arguments are all personal beliefs, and nothing more. You aren't fooling anybody...
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters : You have no way out , than accepting Death after Life , Accept action and not result , Accept Nature and not go against it , Accept a balanced approach towards everything not Extreme approach . Some times Good food like cheese is in a way , good for health , provided , u consume it with in ur limit , u exceed the limit , you will fall seriously ill . Energy to every one is evenly offered with out any discrimination , at least identify these sources . Contd...
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : None of the Natural Forces , we are aware off can be physically seen . We can only feel them . This is for ur info . They are uncontrollable . We can only escape , cannot stop them . Dude : We cant control even shit when it happens . We claim to be more intelligent. That's were I say , Certain things in life should be accepted , n certain things should be validated . Understand things ,they are better than knowing things.Better understanding leads to better application.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : " Deciding on Doing Something ? Naa . deciding on Doing Good Deeds . It is said , Humans are rational beings with reasoning capability and possess comparatively high level of intellectual properties. Please dont ask a proof for this again . If this is so , why dont we create things that are out of these local Laws and Local Properties ? . This is mainly , because , we dont attempt to see beyond what is usual. U should feel lucky being a human,with oppurtunity to realize IT.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
God is always out there.
Kleinlew 3 months ago
why's god narrating this?
adadega 3 months ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
@adadega :There has to be a cause for distruction.....
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 I hate you SO much, you are the textbook definition of a religious zealot. You are what is wrong with this WORLD. There is no human soul, there is intelligence in us, not given to us. There is no god, it is a fake invention for those that were unable to cope with the thought of our lives ending indefinitely. Go join your fellow fundamentalists and drink the purple kool-aid. SCIENCE is real, not your fake god. Have fun rotting in the ground with the rest of us, you stupid fuck.
Rorix57 3 months ago
@Rorix57 : All the emotions are aspects of this very soul . It is an inprint with which creatures are born with an unfulfilled purpose . You are the projected Intelligence of your soul . It is not your physical being , which is hating me . Ur physical being is just a carrier of all these emotions . The non physical element called soul is Eternal , will never die . This is the cause of different Life forms in the cycle of Life and Death. Achieve perfection in good emotions .I dont hate anyone...
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@Rorix57 :It is like sugarcane being born to know how sweet it is . Nothing in this world or the universe , makes sense with out a physical representation,coz thats what we are.This should not lead us to ignorance , rejecting the presence of soul (intelligence conditioned to this nature) . I dont see you with out ur physical existence(its a limitation) . We all are equal when we sleep . No emotions whatsoever , but the moment presence takes over the sleep state , we act differently .
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@Rorix57 Yeah, I can't follow a single thing he says either... he's all over the place... he thinks he knows the purpose of everything in the universe or something... I'm not even going to respond to him
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters : Hey! No worries buddy!!! . lets agree to disagree , anyways , truth never changes inspite of all arguements . Lets be friends at least....No more posting from my side , unless , you wish to seek some more insight around this.. Relax n breath fresh air.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 Yes, lets agree to disagree... however I strongly disagree with your statement "truth never changes inspite of all arguements "
Are you saying that you have the 100% correct truth? Then you should be able to prove to others why you are correct, without resorting to beliefs/faith. So where is this proof?
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters :Yes my friend , Waking a sleeping guy is easier than the one sleeping intentionally . You have to listen carefully and give a thaught to what I say . Ask me what you need to know . Shall be more than glad to clarify . You should think with an open mind , what ever I say . World of truth is lot more complicated ,than what we think . We make it even more complicated by not even giving a thaught to it.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : Any Material Body inhabited by a soul will undergo changes . It will be created , It will grow , It will produce its by product (Offsprings) , It will dwindle and ultimately It will die . If this not true , then Show me , living entities being produced by chemical combinations . Life or conciousness is itself a symptom of a soul . The absence of this soul indicates death of physical matter (Body). Please think what is shared and revert back.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 I don't think you understand what a fact is. You seem to say alot of things as if they are already proven. You have no proof that a soul causes these changes, you also have no proof of the soul to begin with. You're statement has no validity because you have no evidence of an idea you created from literally NOTHING. Just because I can't create life for you doesn't mean it's impossible, it just means I don't know how. By the way, plants die, animals die, suns die...
AsmodeusLoves 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves : So funny , U look for evidence outside you and not with in you .Dont tell me u cant stike a difference between u and a stone? This is the fact , Look around U, analyze this piece of information . (Conditions of Birth , Growth , Reproduction , Dwindle and ultimately Death) . Apply this everywhere ,Even , Universe passes thru life and death . Its impossible to make humans from nothing,it requires God like science . I've seen physically blind peolpe , U r are mentally blind. Contd
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 It doesn't require GOD, you literally just made a statement with no backing. Once again you are creating "facts" from nothing. We cannot have an intelligent conversation unless you are able to use intelligence in your side of the conversation. If you are going to just make blank statements then I will as well. I created the universe, I am GOD, I've lost all abilities & I am currently stuck in human state with all limitations humans face. I condem you to "hell".
AsmodeusLoves 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves : What do you think God should look like for you ? . What would be his behavioral traits?? By what means u will expect his presence? THIS would be the BASIS for UNDERSTANDING YOU and discussion...
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 No it shouldn't you retarded. You have to prove his existence first & then we can have a discussion about him. Other wise it's as relevant as asking what Santa Clause looks like to you or the easter bunny or any other imaginary creature. I understand me to the best of my current ability, I don't need some ridiculous idea/creature to know who I am.
AsmodeusLoves 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves :Who R U ? ... An Intelligent Creature???? U r ,What do I say? . No words to explain.....
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves : HEY!!! u have lost , the ability to think as well? . We definitely cannot have sensible conversation . I believe in spirituality , that is eternal . Science is ever changing . It will change as intelligence increases . No matter , how high u fly , you have to land on the ground , one day....It all starts with , What God should be like if he is ?? . This might help in ur pattern of understanding....
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 You have a belief in something that you have no evidence for, arguing with you is pointless. You are literally mentally unstable. If I were you I would seriously look into phychological help.
AsmodeusLoves 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves :Aspect of Liquidity of Liquid , Aspect of solidity in Solid Substance , Aspect of Heat in Fire , Aspect of Magnetism with magnet etc are some of the examples of Objective and Subjective Aspects or any study (Science) . Presence of one is dependent on another.Similarly , Life is dependent on the presence of Soul (Basics) . Soul is the Essence of Unconditioned Conciousness-(Intelligence).This is everywhere and in everyone . I dont think you lack intelligence......
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves : Think , how you build your thaughts physically (Birth of a Baby) out of nothing . In lay man terms we are the ghosts in the machine (applicable to every living entity). Its a fact you cannot create life out of nothing "Scientifically" . Acceptance is the Fact , No escape root available as a conditioned being. Science can only put forth the facts thru tons of data . It will fail to answer WHY ???
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 Saying we require GOD is the escape used for a true pursuit of answers. The idea that the universe just existed is in equal ratio to the idea that "GOD" just existed. Until you investigate it more & realise that for "GOD" to have just existed & then create the universe adds more steps into an idea that has no true backing. He isn't necessary, so the probability of his existence from nothing (& then creating everything) is lower than the universe just existing.
AsmodeusLoves 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 & by the way, who you are is dictated by mainly enviorment & some what genetics. Your emotions are chemical reactions within the body creating a "feeling". You memories & everything that you are is within or controlled by your brain. The idea that "you" would exist after your body decays is laughable. It is typically believed by weak people that can't accept the idea of non-existence. I always hope for an afterlife, but I there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to believe
AsmodeusLoves 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves : Please undergo Regression Therapy to know what u were in your past life , may be u will find ur purpose a little bit . YOUR SOUL IS ETERNAL , YOUR PHYSICAL BEING is UNREAL . Its False(Meaning Temperory) EGO . UR Identity as a physical being is Temperory . UR Soul is Eternal . PLEASE UNDERGO a REGRESSION THERAPY . I can understand , How u could be wrong ? is really difficult to swallow . Dont argue , please give a thought to it if u r capable of thinking ..
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
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@truthseeker4720 "Please undergo Regression Therapy to know what u were in your past life"
You're a fucking troll right?
You need to learn more about the brain & how the body works. Shit isn't magical (atleast not in the way you think it is).
AsmodeusLoves 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves :I dont attribute a shadow to be real , since its existence is dependent on Light source and a material object . Similarly, I dont attribute , our material body to be real as Its existence is dependent on Mind and Awareness . Understanding this is crucial , but very Important. Our Material Body is TEMPERORY , The Soul is ETERNAL. Every one has this intelligence , Using it makes all the difference!!!
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves :Regression Therapy , is the only way to find out ur past life and future life as well . Why do you feel angry about this? . Well if you dont believe , Regression Therapy is the way out . If you Dont want to Intentionally believe , then dont conclude ,saying There is no afterlife.After all Rejecting what we dont understand is a very common human character. Do some brainstorming excercise....
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves .Shit isn't magical , true , but if it doen't happen , Am affraid , u will have to get admitted to make it happen. Thinking about normal happenings are important and essential too . Life is as easy as eating and shitting . U dont need an understanding of digestion , coz it does not wait for ur permission .But Enquiry of this proccess has lead to a different stream of study and proffessionals (Doctors understanding ur body parts and functions) .Close ur Back , Its smelling now.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves :Its your emotions/feelings creating your Bodily actions . Mind creates thoughts all the time . Your Awareness " Present at this moment" evaluates your thoughts and responds accordingly . Imagine , you are driving car with answering a phone call . The moment you loose Awareness , You r at a higher risk of an accident . Ur existence is dependent on soul , like , Magnet is dependent on Magnetism .Absence of latter makes it an ordinary stone.(Objective and subjective Aspects)
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720
Science is not a collection of facts - it is a way of understanding the universe using objective verification. Your understanding of science is appalling, and you would be laughed out of my biology lab. Science answers "why" questions all the time - if you were a scientist, you would know this. Please refrain from speaking on topics which you clearly don't understand. You're making yourself look like a fool.
timextoxlive 2 months ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
@timextoxlive :Good , Atleast you understand , Science is a way of Understanding the Universe using OBJECTIVE VERIFICATION ONLY . UNLESS YOU DONT USE SUBJECTIVE VARIFICATION , YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS UNIVERSE IS INCOMPLETE . THAT'S EXACTLY,I AM TRYING TO CONVEY. "SUBJECTIVE AND OBJECTIVE ASPECTS" IS COMPLETE VERIFICATION . By the Way , Please explain , WHY ARE YOU IN THIS WORLD , WHAT's YOUR PURPOSE OF EXISTENCE? Please answer thru Science if it does so....
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 The subjective nature of reality is only based in conscious experience. Please, if you could, define subjective verification. There is no such thing. When you and I look at something red, there is no way to verify that we are perceiving the same color, because perception of color is subjective. However, both you and I can agree that red light is ~650nm. Additionally, since hallucination and other consciousness based oddities are known to exist, your argument falls apart.
timextoxlive 2 months ago
@timextoxlive : Everybody understands or rather , knows science . Things that you experience cannot be quantified and factified , at least the way you expect it to be . If you had known what Science is for so many years , then you are using a wrong tool , or may be incomplete tool to arrive the .Its like you claiming there are no germs , using a normal spectacles . Use a Microscope and you will find only germs around.Be spiritual as well to seek wisdom.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@shadesters : Still waiting for excuses or validating the data shared with you ????
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters :Got stunned with the fact shared??? What's up . No postings . Are u still trying to gather things against what I have posted???
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
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Or he knows when to stop talking to someone who will not listen to reason.
Erbrackin 2 months ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
@truthseeker4720 Facts? I see no facts in ANY of your postings... you, sir, are a failed troll, please exit stage left.
shadesters 2 months ago
@shadesters : Oh , You lack analyzing capabilities . Sorry . You are a wrong person with wrong persuit. May be wrong person with right persuit . May be or may not be???? Confused Organism.....
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 "Oh , You lack analyzing capabilities . Sorry . You are a wrong person with wrong persuit. May be wrong person with right persuit . May be or may not be???? Confused Organism....."
I lack analyzing capabilities? Are you serious? YOU are the one using fairy-tales and no evidence to try to back up your claims, whereas I stick to the science... yet I am the one lacking analyzing capabilities? From here on out, I am considering you a troll. Please go away.
shadesters 2 months ago
@shadesters : Friend , I really dont need to proove ITS " GOD" existence in you and in this universe . You can as well say , U dont believe in the Intelligence you carry with you . But I believe , U R Intelligent . The Consciousness that prompts u of Good & Bad / Right & Wrong/Happiness & Sorrow/etc, effects of your actions . UR Awareness is intelligent than your senses , UR Mind is intelligent than your Awareness , UR Conditioned conciousness (Soul) is Intelligent than your Mind. Contd.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 There is no right & wrong/good & bad, that is a completely subjective theoretical thought; it's absolutely philosophical with no true answer. Happiness & sorrow is chemical reactions within your body. Your "proof" of a soul is so easily dismissed. Your entire belief system is based on NOTHING, you are as good as a child believeing in monsters under their bed.
AsmodeusLoves 2 months ago
@AsmodeusLoves : What prompts these chemical reactions with in your Body ? Why it has to Happen at first instance? For Ex: We donot attribute shadow to be real , because , the shadow does not have independent existence (Object and light are needed),Similarly , our material body is dependent on our Mind and Awareness .Mind keeps wandering and not being is the present moment . Awareness is the "Power of Now" . It is in the present moment.
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@shadesters :The "Conditioned Conciousness" is what inhabits the Material Body .This is known as Soul . This will keep changing from one material body to another . Soul transmigrates from one creature to another in its journey , Soul , inhabiting a human body , rather , you being born as human , is a lucky flick , an opurtunity for a higher level of enquiry . This life of urs as human is precious one . It should not be wasted in filthy arguements , rather , employ it for a better cause"Enquiry"
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@Rorix57 : We are fools to assume ocean being blue in color despite,being aware, Water is Color less . Fact is just like the ocean water ex: . Knowing is essential , understanding is very important.Everything is around us , v identify n name with the help of science that's it. Science and Spirituality should coexist like blueness in the ocean inspite of being colorless. It is hopeless if both compete against eachother , coz spirituality remains unchanged , Science is everchanging ,n it should
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@adadega : Its a play . We all are the spectators . He is the doer. We are just acting as per things around us. We, inclusive of all that u see around has only one way out "ACTION" .Good can survive only when bad also exists . We need to achieve that delicate balance in life . Its the ultimate purpose .
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 What's with the verbal diarrhoea?
alexquatermain 3 months ago in playlist Through The Wormhole: Is There A Creator?
@alexquatermain :????
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 ". U r so ignorant , that u don't realize it is keeping u alive (Soul)."
But you call me the ignorant one? Prove to me a soul exists and then we will talk. Until then, shut the fuck up and stop calling people who do not believe in fairy-tales ignorant.
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters : Sleep next to a dead man . See for your self and differentiate . This is enough to prove the soul exists . Grow up at least now. Use of better language is expected out of us being educated.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : Absence of some thing is presence of something else . Presence of death means absence of life . They never coexist at an individual level . Presence of Darkness means absence of Light . If u say soul does not exist , then u r dead . Choose which makes sense .
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters :It is improbable , to find such an order came out of a Chaos. Means to sustain life that is able to develope technology .Let man not think , he is unique to this world . Rather , he is a part of this Unique design designed by a Designer / Manifestation / GOD. It is a situation , Every thing and Every one is in him , but he is in no one , except for few of them who have realized him (IT). We r just like characters on the screen , neither effecting the screen,nor the source.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
If through some electromagnetic modulation my brain is made to feel that my mother is around me, it does NOT mean She does not exist. So if some one can do the same with GOD?..........
786HKHM 3 months ago
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786HKHM 3 months ago
See? Morgan Freeman does not belive in any religion, for how can he belive in what he knows is not true, but he does not deny divine beings, for how can he deny the divine any more than we can deny our living. Freeman is our god and protecter, i have made my evidence :D
Musikkingofthecookie 3 months ago in playlist Morgan Freeman
thank-you for sharing this movie here ...you have part that have been block in other sharings
gaiagale 3 months ago
god is 100% fake
cussingbatman 4 months ago
@cussingbatman :Indepth Study of any subject of interest is nothing but Science . Science is creating what is already present , by way of knowing things . A force called Gravity as an example , is present since ancient days , Newton gave a name to it and it is known to us as Gravity these days. Science , at the most can only produce facts through extensive data of how things r , the way they look like . Never it can reveal "WHY" . This will be a perineal limitation with science...contd
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@cussingbatman : Intelligence commonly termed as "GOD" is in itself authenticates "Its"-Referred to as "GOD" presence . Infact , this is our limitation as humans . No doubt , Science has helped this society in may ways , but at the same time , it cannot replace "God". This intelligence is Eternal , Unconditional , Pure , Undescribable , Undestructive , the very great force being the very inherent nature . It lives beyond any reasoning and independent. After all we are humans....
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
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@truthseeker4720 thanks for making to to reply to 'cussingbatman' I found both parts in total an interesting read (btw for the most part well put)
I'm curious about your choice to use "No doubt" rather than for example 'for sure' or 'it is true' ...or any other term that supports as you put forth "Science has helped this society in may ways"
respect
gaiagale 3 months ago
@gaiagale : Science Can Explain How things happen ? It will never explain Why Things Happen ? . Unless , it studies objective (Currently studied) and subjective aspects(Often rejected for lack of Evidences) .I consider both Science and Spirituality in equal terms . Each one is incomplete without one another. Science will change as and when it advances , Spirituality does not. Its eternal..
truthseeker4720 2 months ago
@truthseeker4720 If its undescribable, then how are you describing it to me now? Surely if it was undescribable then you shouldn't even know what you're on about. Also, give it a rest would you. You act as if you know that there is a God, when really we're all the same, we don't know anything yet. You don't, i don't, nobody does. Untill we get better anwsers. Right now, you're being arogant sugesting that you know exactly whats going on. Get down from your high horse please.
1123joey 3 months ago
@1123joey Wake up Sir . Wake up...
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 Please explain why i should be the one that needs to wake up? If its you that in fact needs to wake up. You seem to think that you know more than everyone else. As if you KNOW there is a God. But no, please tell me. I think its you that should get a hold of your imagination Sir, try and keep in control of it if you do somehow get it back. Because i think you'll find, the idea of God only works if the person believing is either deluded beyond anything or just plain retarded.
1123joey 3 months ago
@1123joey Wake UP sir , Wake up.......Wake up , Wake up at least now.....
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@1123joey : Respond and don't react . I guess you felt a little lower . Not my fault . Wake up from ur intentional sleep . Wake up.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 No actually, i was away playing some Battlefield 3, am i not allowed to do that now? Sorry faggot. Also, stop trolling, as you're bad at it. Why is it that you didnt explain to me why it is me that should be waking up? For now, i'll just take it as if you simply can't. You believe in God? Where has it got you? Absolutly fucking no where. Its you that should be waking up friend. Waking up from your deluded state of mind.
1123joey 3 months ago
@1123joey : Don't question me on ur ignorance . Question ur self on your very purpose of existence in this world ? Dig deep , don't scratch on the surface and post your comment irresponsibly . U r no where in the stage of enquring these aspects . Don't waste other's time please......U r unfit for this , inspite of being a human (Mistakingly I guess).......
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 why must there be some ultimate purpose to our existence? why is there water on mars? what's the purpose of that? Oh, I forgot, there is no purpose... we just are here, and if we weren't, we wouldn't care because we wouldn't exist
stop pretending like your invisible god has some "purpose" for us all... If a god existed it wouldn't need to create anything, especially anything for a "purpose"
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters :Ask your self . Y U do what U do ? . Y not do what thoughts come to ur mind randomly ? . What is stopping U from Committing Crime like any seasoned criminal ? . Find a purpose of ur very existence , this is would be a Goal worth looking out for. Being a human with brains , don't pretend , as if U r a big fool in this grand plan..."MAN IS THE DREAM OF GOD" (As a Part of Entire Manifestation).
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 Why do I do what I do? To better society, because I cherish my fellow human beings more than your god does... I didn't make humans to rot here on this crazy Earth, so I am trying to make things better... as are most scientists... that's why we now have comforts like abundant food, electricity, cars, clean water, etc... To make things better here... that's why I do what I do... I don't NEED to believe in a god to be a good person... Do you need a book to tell you to be good?
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters :U r just the spectator , not the doer . Everything is happening around you . This so call intelligence (commonly reffered to as God) is not some one seperate with a seperate entity . It is the Essence we define as God. This intelligence is so powerfull , It does not allow you to stop breathing as well . U r so ignorant , that u don't realize it is keeping u alive (Soul).U r the spectator only , not the Doer . Nothing is in ur Control . Not even anger.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters :Ha Ha Ha , It is like you r tryin to say , I breathe , but I will not believe in breath. Think what is purpose of your existence? . Aggression does not work......
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 Why must there be a puropse? Maybe we were just a cosmic accident... stop trying to read into things... you are trying to find a purpose in things when all you are is an ant trapped in an ant farm... what purpose would a god have to make us on Earth and then we die and go to heaven? Wouldn't it be smarter to just make us directly in heaven? I make what little time I have here nice, and then I move on, wherever that may be after death, that's it...
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters : " Why must there be a purpose? Its every scientists quest. Every human is after this Important Question ? . How everything in this world is perfect ? and suits our very existence . This is not an accident . Why You Dream and react to the virtual reality after all ,when you know Dream is a Dream ? . This itself indicates " Manifestation is Dream of God" . You are just a Spectator not the Doer . Things r happening around You . Realize this uniqueness.Heaven n Hell are here only.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : It is your Ego , which is limiting you from knowing the unknown . To know these complexities of the Unique Creation , One has to analyse it with an open mind . I can feel God (Goodness , Intelligence)in every thing . Thrash your ego , which only nurtures Ignorance , not knowledge. It is our inherent nature to be happy in everything . Why do we seek only Happiness , n not the opposite . We pain ourselves , on the verge of looking for it out side n not within.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters :Dear Sir, Your remarks implicate , You don't acknowledge science also . Understand the definition of Science first : "Indepth Study (Enquiry)of any subject is known as science" .Science will continue to have this imp limitation as it is of objective study . The question of "WHY" will exist as the subjective study is not percieved still . U seem to be rejecting both Science and spirituality. In short , it means , you are out of context to this forum , no reference what so ever.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 Im out of context because I can't see this invisible "reason" why we are here, like you can? Yes, you are the one person who has all the answers to life. So please, enlighten me with your infinite, divine knowledge of the universe.
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters : I have never asked others . Neither I am fully enlightened . But I do have a piece of intelligence which gives me an incredible feeling of "Its" Presence , being everywhere. This quest has to be personal one and it is better experienced that way . Please pounder on Questions starting from "WHY?" . These are difficult to answer though . Worth answering yourself. However If you still want to understand , Then We have to convince ourselves about "ITS" Presence..God is what we name him
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters :We are not an outcome of a Cosmic accident . It would be improbable to find such order out of a chaos . There is an organizing principle . Dream can explain a lot if u attempt to think about it . Everything is perfect in dream , taking to a virtual world . It does make you feel thinks as well . This is a solid evidence enough to say It is the energy , leading to manifestation of a physical Matter . A thaught creates many things in our lives . We simply fail to realize these things.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 Seeing a dead person does not prove souls exist. You are saying we had to be created, but who created god? You see things as creation, I see things that have always existed, infinitely. God to you is some being, god to me is matter and energy. Trust me, a 2000 year old book full of bad science and immorality does not hold the answers to life. I prefer to be a free-thinker, and clinging to backwards ideologies from ancient civilizations is the opposite of that. End of story.
shadesters 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 You are right about one thing, though, energy leading to manifestation of matter. We are, literally, matter from dead stars, which created matter when they died out. Carbon, which our life is based on, would not exist without this process. It's called nucleosynthesis. That, right there, is my creator, my god.
"We are star stuff" - Carl Sagan
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters :Every single posting of mine just speaks about God referred to as "IT" which means eternal Intelligence . It is not subject to Gender Distinction. It is not a creator , But the Manifestation . It is projected Intelligence . Sun has its rays. Rays inturn as a source of energy brings things to life . Things work the way they are and has multifold effect on each and every living and non living things in and around us . This Infinite Intelligence is named by different religions.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 I just don't see what you see as "intelligent"? That would indicate some thought process, which I see none, even though I see energy/matter/life/etc...
The universe is not "intelligent" and there is no reason to believe in intelligent design, especially a person who doesn't believe in a god as a "being"
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters : force , that keeps things working with utmost perfection , Continuous , Constant , Buit in Matrix of Cause and Effect . For Ex : source of Energy , that's out of Local Laws, still influences the entire workings,Eg: Sun's energy influence , every living and non living in our world.Form of energy is seen in terms of Vegetation with fruits , animals with food products. The effect of balanced consumption leads to its effects.(Cause and Effect matrix) with out any expectation. Contd
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : This happenings are intelligent . You might experience a Deep sleep state , but it does not forget to keep you alive , even though , you forget ur physical existence , means , If you have noticed , at deep sleep state , you dont feel pain initially , ones ur presence wakes, u slowly start feeling ur senses which is in sleep state , But ,U breath with out forgeting , This is the aspect of intelligence conditioned to nature . Unconditioned Pure Conciousness is Supreme reality. "GOD"
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 No, no god needed... energy doesn't get destroyed, only transferred, so all of these "continuous constant forces" are just energy doing what it does, jump from one thing to the next... and the rest of what you typed, I don't quite understand... breathing without forgetting? That's because the brain is active 24/7 until you die... no intelligence needed... people who are brain dead need machines to breathe for them... I don't get your point on how this proves intelligence...
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters : Y should ur brain work ? . Y cant you control the functioning of ur brain to increase your life time , similar to how we switch off all equipments when not in use ? . This is simply not in control at all . Brain is the carrier of Intelligence , which is all around you . UR identity is only based on your physical presence , which is nill if that intelligence is out of ur brains (Brain Dead) .Intelligence what we carry with us is nothing but an element of unconditional one.Contd.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 "Y cant you control the functioning of ur brain to increase your life "
Ummm, because your brain doesn't determine the length of your life.
How willfuly ignorant are you? Pick up a science book for a change, you might actually LEARN something.
Intelligence is the nueral pathways in the certain lobes of the brain. Brain size itself isn't even considered a main reason for intelligence, which is my dolphins are super-smart yet have brains that are much smaller than a pigs brain
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters : Nothing is possible by us humans , except for actions . Eventful life is essential than mere longitivity . I believe in Living every moment and not mere existence. The more u struggle , the Matrix is in place to make u tired . What is that life which is not lived at that moment , than mere existence. We are all conditioned to this nature or so called intelligence...
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : The design of everything in this world u see is intelligent . Nothing is with out a reason . Compare ur self to every one and thing around . Why everything has to happen the way it is happening ? Why at all , we all are here in this world ? Why the world is the way we see it? . Science has given us spectacles to have clarity of vision . It is brain that concludes thru vision . Specs is essential.Sight has to be there too . Similarly , Science is essential , but with spirituality.
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters :This unconditional Conciousness is everywhere (Space). Supreme and Unconditional Reality which is Eternal or Real , Rest of All that you see around you and ur own physical presence is exactly opposite . Absolutely true , No God needed , with out acceptance or rejection , u still continue to exist . Living is what everyone looks forward to . Being happy all the time is our inherent nature . Since we are conditioned to twin opposites , we get in to problems and there by pain. Contd
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@truthseeker4720 "This unconditional Conciousness is everywhere (Space). "
No. When you are dead, there is no more conciousness... your brain is your conciousness. When you die, you have no more brain, therefore you have no more conciousness. You cease to exist because everything you are, is in the brain. Anything else is just a belief with no scientific backing. Beliefs do not always equal reality, even if you want to believe that so badly...
shadesters 3 months ago
@shadesters :Birth and Death is inevitable . Due u agree or disagree with this ? It is a continous proccess . Escaping this cycle is essential . U cannot change this neither I can change this , but what we can do is look at atleast escaping this cycle of birth and death , by guarding our thoughts , actions , awareness etc , etc.If u need more evidence , please undergo a regression therapy to know ur past life . May be u will have an answer...
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : That's exactly I am saying . I am Unreal (Not eternal) , Conditioned Conciousness (Soul) , My self is real (Eternal) . Ur soul or conditioned conciousness/conditioned intelligence is displayed as ur physical being . U(Physical Identity) are the projected Intelligence of ur self(Soul). U r temperory , ur soul is permanent . Ur self will change identity everytime it is in this world (Cycle of Birth and Death).
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters :Acceptance is the only way out . Action is in ur control , not the result , Right action is guarded by this conditioned conciousness in our selves . Before u act , This conciousness prompts u of twin opposites (Good or Bad) as a human , u tend to be with good actions , or else the matrix of cause and effect follows ur actions . This is intelligent in nature . Something which is constant and continous in nature . We need to guard our conciousness by appreciating and respecting .contd
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters :Unconditional Respect to this very nature which is Intelligent is nothing but worship . This unconditional Conciousness is what ,every one is worshipping with different names and forms . God is not subjected to Gender . So he is reffered to as "IT" . IT is One Nothingness and Infinite (Space).
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
@shadesters : There is no creator . This is manifestation (Expansion of devine intelligence) . We are within the Intelligence and not out of it . U (physical being)are the projected Intelligence of your soul/self , similarly , The entire manifestation is the projected Intelligence of the Supreme Reality (Intelligence Everywhere) . This Devine Intelligence is Eternal/Real/Untimate Reality .Projected Intelligence is Unreal/Perishable/not of permanent nature.(God is in everyone , no one is in him)
truthseeker4720 3 months ago
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@truthseeker4720 You tell me not to question you on my ignorance, yet here you are stating that theres a God, yet you have no proof what so ever, you fucking idiot, and please shut the fuck up. Also, why i don't do random things that i come to think of? or why i don't commit crimes? you know why? because i'm a decent human being, i have nothing to do with a fact idea. I don't need to spend my time thinking about a God when i already know its not real, when its just an idea.
1123joey 3 months ago