Barkley was not a good fighter. He just had Hearns number and that was the only highlight of his career. The 2 battles. The rematch..........hearns was still good, but was not as good as he was a few years from this. He was more slower, flat footed.
Many forget this was late in Hearns career- hell, the first fight was late in his career.Hagler really took alot out of Hearns-he was never the same after that fight. Hearns pre-Hagler would have stopped Barkley in 3. That not to slight Mookie, he was a warrior to the bone!
I thought Hearns won the fight. He definitely won the 12th.
Saying Barkley had Hearn's number ignores two things. The first fight Hearns was destroying Barkley in one of the worst beatings. Then he landed one shot.
This fight was very close, and WAY past Hearn's prime.
If they fought 100 times in their primes, Hearns probably would have one 85 of them.
Iran's trainer played Billy Fox in the great movie "Raging Bull". He was the fighter who Jake Lamotta took a dive for the mob. He called himself a 'mamaluke" a 'mamaluke ganea' what ever that means.
This fight should have bees stopped way earlier than the twelth round. Too many people worry about pleasing the fans and the fighters are just spectacles. Listen to both fighters now, this fight is what did it.
Benn maybe , but Eubank was unbeaten ,even though he was really already beaten by Ray Close and ,Michael Watson had beat him in the their first fight.I think you accept Steven Collins was the better fighter , beating them both twice ..
Yeah he's ugly but we watch fights for knockouts not pretty boys. Barkley comes to bring the pain. Not many fighters can take Hearns power. If more fighters would fight like Barkley boxing would not be losing fans to the MMA.
what's so great??? Mosley is over-hyped in any other era including this one; lost to Forrest & Cotto didn't he? as for Forrest he showed to much fear & respect vs the 1dimesional Mayorga; obviously lacks a warriors heart. Hopkins with the 21 defenses and all has a more legitimate claim to greatness, he derailed Tito, Tarver & Echols so he merits some credit; unfortunately a very dirty fighter: elbows, headbutting, holding; and still would of lost to any of the great champions of the past.
he my not have been the best ever but i always loved to watch barkley he always gave it his all and it was all action...not like some of tactical boring shit you see nowadays
@pnutbutrncrackers - Yeah, like Leonard against Hagler, Duran was the sentimental favorite against Barkley. So all Duran had to do was exceed peoples expectations and he'd get the decision.
Interesting. It looks like we also agree on the RL/MH fight. I felt Hagler should've gotten the decision and that Leonard likely got points for 'showmanship', which I totally oppose. Some of those rounds RL might as well have been on a horse prancing around the ring. Why is that great?
@pnutbutrncrackers - Yeah, since Leonard didn't get knocked out by Hagler or suffer a brutal beating in going the distance, a little bit of "flash" was all SRL needed to win the judges hearts and steal the decision. Going into the fight, everyone was worried for SRL's health & eyesight, considering that he had been out for over 3 years and Hagler had been knocking out tough, feared opponents like Hearns & Mugabi. The prefight buildup was like Ali vs. Foreman, with most people expecting a
brutal KO or beating to be administered to the sentimental & fan favorite. Both exceeded everyones expectations and won over the crowd (which already favored them), except in Ali's case - Ali earned the win in indisputable KO fashion. But SRL won the EVENT - as the commentators were putting it. SRL was campaigning during the fight as if it was a high school popularity contest as opposed to a world championship boxing match - and in doing so, he "tricked" the judges who apparently wanted to be
"tricked." Prancing, playing to the crowd (and judges, which was his intent), flurrying at the end of the round in order to "steal" rounds, etc. SRL gave the impression that HE was in control, which was a huge swing since most of us didn't know how he would be able to keep Hagler off of him for 12 rounds. So SRL won by staying on his feet & going the distance without getting beat down & landing some strategically-timed combinations/flurries. This shocked & amazed people enough that those
routing for SRL - the golden boy of his time and underdog - were blinded to anything done by Hagler. It made a good "story" that SRL "won," but that's about it. Two things Hagler should've done differently: Hagler should not have started out boxing out of a right-handed stance against SRL - he should've started out as a southpaw and probably stayed that way the whole fight. And Hagler shouldn't have tried to prove that he could "outbox" SRL - he should've mugged the smaller SRL instead of
giving SRL room to operate and implement his game plan. Even if the fight had to be "ugly," that's how Hagler should've made it. Hagler gave up the first 4 rounds primarily due to coming out right-handed and secondly, boxing with SRL instead of mugging him from the start.
@comedicstuff Hey, it worked. I heard a quote once about the fight. Can't remember who said it but the man said he thought Ray won the fight back then. But every time he sees the fight again on TV it gets closer and closer. I have to agree with him. I think Ray pulled it off by a point, maybe 2. great fight.
@bandit7498 - Yeah, it was a close fight. Leonard surprised everyone and stole the show from Hagler. I was routing for SRL in that fight and jumped to the ceiling when I heard that he'd gotten the decision, because I was afraid that he'd get KO'd like many of the experts were predicting. Even though Hagler had a lot of KO's in his career, I still feel that he is underrated by history. SRL gets my respect for fighting Benitez, Hearns, Duran & Hagler all when they were considered the best.
@pnutbutrncrackers I can see an argument for both sides. I personally feel Ray won the fight. Hagler blew the first 4 rounds, that's widely accepted. The other rounds that I felt he lost was because he simply wasn't busy enough. He should have really asserted himself when Ray got tired in the middle rounds. So 4 rounds plus 3 more somewhere between 5 and 12 wins the fight. Some of those late rounds could have one either way. I just think Ray showed he wanted it more. Hagler knew he lost too.
Why do you say that "Hagler knew he lost"? I disagree, and his reaction after the decision shows exactly the opposite was true. He was very taken aback and said repeatedly that he'd won it and done enough to deserve it.
If I have time later I'll comment on some of what you said about the fight, too. Right now I've got to go. Cheers.
@pnutbutrncrackers Well, I just felt like the way he was acting gave it away. Marvin had won God only knows how many times in the ring at this point. And when the bell rings he's dancing around the ring, VERY uncharacteristic of Hagler. I think it was for show because he knew he lost and was putting on like everyone does. Like I said though, there's an argument to be made for both fighters. No need to go into a debate because it's been argued over for 23 years now. Good fight though.
I'm skeptical of psychobabble regarding what a fighter is supposedly really feeling inside, etc. I think such analysis is just a guess and often wrong.
As far as the fight, I just think RL was given 'style points', which I totally disagree with. (Same w/Ali.) Personally I feel it should be illegal for a boxer to intentionally run away from the opponent for extended periods of time (like Ray did). It's called boxing, not track or dancing. But I'll watch the fight again sometime.
Don't get me wrong, btw. I think Leonard was a fabulously talented top boxer. I just think Hagler (& Hearns, in the 2nd fight) beat him -- just as I think Norton beat Ali.
@pnutbutrncrackers Your use of the word psychobabble ALMOST made me not even bother with a reply because I feel as though you were purposely insulting my opinion. But I have to say, making it illegal for fighters to use lateral movement would be akin to telling boxers they can't block or parry punches. It's dumb to say one style is better than the other. Ray moved a lot in that fight because there was no way he could out slug Hagler. So you wanna change the rules to favor punchers? BOXING son
Surprised my use of "psychobabble" seems to have touched a nerve. I just thought it was a pop term used in the context of the dubious practice of reading a person's inner state via supposed outward indicators. Kind of ironic that you object to that, but not (evidently) to using the word "dumb" to describe what you perceive to be my point of view (!). "Son" was a nice touch too. :)
But anyway, obviously I wasn't speaking merely of "using lateral movement", as I think I made clear.
@pnutbutrncrackers - Yeah, you were speaking of a boxer purposely avoiding combat for extended periods of time. Amateur boxers even get warned for that, but it's a fine line. SRL was doing enough punching as to where the ref probably didn't feel that he needed to tell SRL to mix it up. He let SRL implement his gameplan. It's like when some refs will break the fighters immediately if they're fighting on the inside or in a clench, and others will say "punch to get out."
Thank you for at least understanding what I was saying. Yes, it can be a fine line, and I haven't watched the RL/MH fight in a while. I seem to remember a couple of middle rounds in particular w/Leonard dancing/skipping away from Hagler in big circles for nearly the whole round. To me that's bunk (even though the crowd laughed & cheered), and I give credit to a boxer for taking the fight to their opponent. I've heard some judges do & some don't.
BTW, it's interesting that back when SRL & Hagler fought, like you I was totally for Leonard and had the same reaction you did, though I hadn't seen the fight. Like most people I was wowed by the flair or 'entertainment factor' of Sugar Ray and Muhammad Ali. But I must admit that as I grew in my knowledge of boxing I came to feel that great as they were, at times both of those fighters benefited too much from their ring charisma, rather than on boxing merit, even by judges.
Finally, surely we can ALL agree (you, me, and even Bandit) that judge Jose Juan Guerra's scorecard in the Leonard/Hagler fight was one of the most ridiculous and biased displays in boxing history: 118-110!!! (for SRL) Are you kidding me?!
Al Bernstein is a boxing broadcaster that I have liked and respected though the years. His recent comments on Hagler (& Hagler/Leonard) are v. good. I'd include the link, but YT doesn't allow it. You can probably find it via Google.
Iran Barkley was a first class bum Michael Nunn beat the fuck out of him and basically ended his career he just knew how to fight Hearns every great boxer has a cross to bare and Iran Barkley was Thomas Hearns cross just like Antonio Tarver was Roy Jones Jr's
roy lost too cause he was all talent speed, stamina etc. very unconventional got away from the fundamentals a long time ago. When the natural talents slipped he was there to be hit especially with him not being fundamentally sound. To me it was also accelerated with all that muscle lost when he went back down from heavy weight to fight Tarver
Good Choice or words!!! I not saying Hearns was pass his prime. I hate it when people do that. But it was long over due/time for Hearns to start hanging them up. I love hearns. He's a true champ! Kent Norton vs. Ali which Ali lost ever match. To people that know boxing!
I've seen Iran Barkley got his ass kicked by Roberto Duran, Michael Nunn, Nigel Benn, and James Toney. Any yet, he whooped Thomas Hearns' ass twice. Go fig.
Interesting, thanks for posting. You can tell Tommy is annoyed by Iran grouping them as equally 'great fighters' since everyone knows Tommy is a HOF legend and Iran was just a solid title holder at the time. But unlike the clueless punks of today like Floyd Mayweather, Hearns had too much class to deny that he lost or take any of the glory from Iran.
I'M GLAD IRAN INVESTED WISELY HE PUT HIS WINNINGS IN A ANNITY AND RECIEVES 50.000 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE
illone10 3 weeks ago
Barkley was not a good fighter. He just had Hearns number and that was the only highlight of his career. The 2 battles. The rematch..........hearns was still good, but was not as good as he was a few years from this. He was more slower, flat footed.
Junlt0 1 month ago
Many forget this was late in Hearns career- hell, the first fight was late in his career.Hagler really took alot out of Hearns-he was never the same after that fight. Hearns pre-Hagler would have stopped Barkley in 3. That not to slight Mookie, he was a warrior to the bone!
commonsensrules 6 months ago
dj kalid ...we da best
Sexiiimamita180 8 months ago
I thought Hearns won the fight. He definitely won the 12th.
Saying Barkley had Hearn's number ignores two things. The first fight Hearns was destroying Barkley in one of the worst beatings. Then he landed one shot.
This fight was very close, and WAY past Hearn's prime.
If they fought 100 times in their primes, Hearns probably would have one 85 of them.
TA152H01 8 months ago
damn, joe goosen looks young!!
elcondepatula 9 months ago
It's all well and good to say Iran had Hearns number.......don't forget, Hearns was at his best in the early to mid 80's.
Davidmh1971 1 year ago
Iran's trainer played Billy Fox in the great movie "Raging Bull". He was the fighter who Jake Lamotta took a dive for the mob. He called himself a 'mamaluke" a 'mamaluke ganea' what ever that means.
lp32862 1 year ago
lol its joe goosen
silentweirdo88 1 year ago
Barkley was announced bankrupt today...damn good fighter
DoomCity202 1 year ago
Thomas, gracious even in defeat.
flazzi49 1 year ago
barkley's pretty good.
dantecry12 1 year ago
This fight should have bees stopped way earlier than the twelth round. Too many people worry about pleasing the fans and the fighters are just spectacles. Listen to both fighters now, this fight is what did it.
ThankGodImBlack370 1 year ago
5:26 Barkley thought that Hearns might have been given the fight.
It made me feel good to see how happy he was that he won. And I'm not a Barkley fan.
:)
joeblohhh 1 year ago 2
Hearns won that last round
joeblohhh 1 year ago 4
man Iran took a beating from Toney. hes got the heart of a lion he has
funnyblackmans 1 year ago
Hearns looks like he had a shattered nose.
Solowizard 2 years ago
Benn shits all over Barkley every time!!!
reddude123 2 years ago
BENN WAS THE BEST
toffeetone77 2 years ago
barkley was old and he took a lot punch before he fought nigel benn period . barckley was much better the nigel benn
wwefan9200 2 years ago
Iran blocked tommy's hook and countered with his own hook and they called it a wild punch.
mookeychase0907 2 years ago
Nigal Benn (ENGLAND) whooped Barkley...
0NIN00B 2 years ago
Steven Collins (Ireland ) whooped Ben and Eubank twice each ;-)
Golfgtiguy 2 years ago
past their primes... come on you know that golfgtiguy
mrBandG 2 years ago 2
Benn maybe , but Eubank was unbeaten ,even though he was really already beaten by Ray Close and ,Michael Watson had beat him in the their first fight.I think you accept Steven Collins was the better fighter , beating them both twice ..
Golfgtiguy 2 years ago
Benn and Eubank were washed up were Collins fought them.
pugilistofpower 2 years ago
Dont be silly now .Eubank had the title at the time dumb ass !
Golfgtiguy 2 years ago
Ali had the title when he fought spinks, he was still washed up. Same as Eubank.... cunt.
pugilistofpower 2 years ago
thats true collins was a tough fighter. weve got haye and froch on the way up now. who you got ?
soffitts 2 years ago
oh yeah and khan. almost forgot him.
soffitts 2 years ago
Iran Barkley is one ugly bastard
ManlnCognito 3 years ago 2
Yeah he's ugly but we watch fights for knockouts not pretty boys. Barkley comes to bring the pain. Not many fighters can take Hearns power. If more fighters would fight like Barkley boxing would not be losing fans to the MMA.
marvelandgroup 2 years ago
Your so Ugly manlncognito muppet you dont have your photo up .Only your Mother could love a baby that looked like you ;-)
Golfgtiguy 2 years ago
Any only your mother could love her brother...your dad.
You inbred irish scum
ManlnCognito 2 years ago
Ugly is as ugly does Manincognito .You embarressed your Mother when you arrived !
Golfgtiguy 2 years ago
I'd like to say that you embarrassed yours, but the bitch has no shame.
ManlnCognito 2 years ago
@ManlnCognito - Well, I guess you like your fighters "cute." Fagboy.
comedicstuff 1 year ago
As said when Mosley lost to Forrest for the second time "He was simpily a good fighter who had a great fighters number"
cLosbiGbanG 3 years ago 8
EXACTLY! Forrest is a good fighter, but he's just not as great as Mosley.
Transformers217 3 years ago
sometimes the better fighter doesn't win,the fighter who fights better that night does.
Roberiddle 3 years ago 2
both Mosley & Forrest aren't great? the word "GREAT" gets thrown around too loosely these days!
judaschongo 3 years ago 2
Mosley is an all time great, but not Forrest. Forrest is just a good fighter, who has a great fighters number. That happens all the time.
Example: Jermain Taylor can beat Bernard Hopkins, but he's not as great as Bernard Hopkins.
Transformers217 3 years ago 2
what's so great??? Mosley is over-hyped in any other era including this one; lost to Forrest & Cotto didn't he? as for Forrest he showed to much fear & respect vs the 1dimesional Mayorga; obviously lacks a warriors heart. Hopkins with the 21 defenses and all has a more legitimate claim to greatness, he derailed Tito, Tarver & Echols so he merits some credit; unfortunately a very dirty fighter: elbows, headbutting, holding; and still would of lost to any of the great champions of the past.
judaschongo 3 years ago
besides Forrest had more than just his number, he beat him thoroughly; unlike Taylor vs Hopkins which technically was a snore fest.
judaschongo 3 years ago
@cLosbiGbanG forrest beat moseley twice in the amateurs AND the pros,i guess some guys just beat some guys,styles make fights..
onlyjoetee 1 year ago
Barkley is the one guy that seemed to have Tommy's number. His brawling style gave Hearns trouble.
Not to take anything away from Iran, but Hearns should have been retired by now.
zenmachinefilms 3 years ago 9
@zenmachinefilms Are u forgetting Hagler?
bandit7498 1 year ago
iran barklel did a lot of justice to duran.
Goldskool 3 years ago 3
Yes, sure he did!
efravi25 3 years ago
he my not have been the best ever but i always loved to watch barkley he always gave it his all and it was all action...not like some of tactical boring shit you see nowadays
lyxdexic 4 years ago 2
booth these men are solid and booth are legends,you can hate on barkley but he never ducked anyone.period!
redmeth07 4 years ago 2
Why would anyone "hate on Barkley"? What's there not to like? (& I'm a Hearns fan)
Barkley got ripped off when he fought Duran, BTW. Made me mad.
pnutbutrncrackers 3 years ago
@pnutbutrncrackers - Yeah, like Leonard against Hagler, Duran was the sentimental favorite against Barkley. So all Duran had to do was exceed peoples expectations and he'd get the decision.
comedicstuff 1 year ago
@comedicstuff
Interesting. It looks like we also agree on the RL/MH fight. I felt Hagler should've gotten the decision and that Leonard likely got points for 'showmanship', which I totally oppose. Some of those rounds RL might as well have been on a horse prancing around the ring. Why is that great?
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers - Yeah, since Leonard didn't get knocked out by Hagler or suffer a brutal beating in going the distance, a little bit of "flash" was all SRL needed to win the judges hearts and steal the decision. Going into the fight, everyone was worried for SRL's health & eyesight, considering that he had been out for over 3 years and Hagler had been knocking out tough, feared opponents like Hearns & Mugabi. The prefight buildup was like Ali vs. Foreman, with most people expecting a
comedicstuff 1 year ago
brutal KO or beating to be administered to the sentimental & fan favorite. Both exceeded everyones expectations and won over the crowd (which already favored them), except in Ali's case - Ali earned the win in indisputable KO fashion. But SRL won the EVENT - as the commentators were putting it. SRL was campaigning during the fight as if it was a high school popularity contest as opposed to a world championship boxing match - and in doing so, he "tricked" the judges who apparently wanted to be
comedicstuff 1 year ago
"tricked." Prancing, playing to the crowd (and judges, which was his intent), flurrying at the end of the round in order to "steal" rounds, etc. SRL gave the impression that HE was in control, which was a huge swing since most of us didn't know how he would be able to keep Hagler off of him for 12 rounds. So SRL won by staying on his feet & going the distance without getting beat down & landing some strategically-timed combinations/flurries. This shocked & amazed people enough that those
comedicstuff 1 year ago
routing for SRL - the golden boy of his time and underdog - were blinded to anything done by Hagler. It made a good "story" that SRL "won," but that's about it. Two things Hagler should've done differently: Hagler should not have started out boxing out of a right-handed stance against SRL - he should've started out as a southpaw and probably stayed that way the whole fight. And Hagler shouldn't have tried to prove that he could "outbox" SRL - he should've mugged the smaller SRL instead of
comedicstuff 1 year ago
giving SRL room to operate and implement his game plan. Even if the fight had to be "ugly," that's how Hagler should've made it. Hagler gave up the first 4 rounds primarily due to coming out right-handed and secondly, boxing with SRL instead of mugging him from the start.
comedicstuff 1 year ago
@comedicstuff Hey, it worked. I heard a quote once about the fight. Can't remember who said it but the man said he thought Ray won the fight back then. But every time he sees the fight again on TV it gets closer and closer. I have to agree with him. I think Ray pulled it off by a point, maybe 2. great fight.
bandit7498 1 year ago
@bandit7498 - Yeah, it was a close fight. Leonard surprised everyone and stole the show from Hagler. I was routing for SRL in that fight and jumped to the ceiling when I heard that he'd gotten the decision, because I was afraid that he'd get KO'd like many of the experts were predicting. Even though Hagler had a lot of KO's in his career, I still feel that he is underrated by history. SRL gets my respect for fighting Benitez, Hearns, Duran & Hagler all when they were considered the best.
comedicstuff 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers I can see an argument for both sides. I personally feel Ray won the fight. Hagler blew the first 4 rounds, that's widely accepted. The other rounds that I felt he lost was because he simply wasn't busy enough. He should have really asserted himself when Ray got tired in the middle rounds. So 4 rounds plus 3 more somewhere between 5 and 12 wins the fight. Some of those late rounds could have one either way. I just think Ray showed he wanted it more. Hagler knew he lost too.
bandit7498 1 year ago
@bandit7498
Why do you say that "Hagler knew he lost"? I disagree, and his reaction after the decision shows exactly the opposite was true. He was very taken aback and said repeatedly that he'd won it and done enough to deserve it.
If I have time later I'll comment on some of what you said about the fight, too. Right now I've got to go. Cheers.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers
BTW, I might add that I've heard Leonard himself say that Marvin thought he won the fight.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers Well, I just felt like the way he was acting gave it away. Marvin had won God only knows how many times in the ring at this point. And when the bell rings he's dancing around the ring, VERY uncharacteristic of Hagler. I think it was for show because he knew he lost and was putting on like everyone does. Like I said though, there's an argument to be made for both fighters. No need to go into a debate because it's been argued over for 23 years now. Good fight though.
bandit7498 1 year ago
@bandit7498
I'm skeptical of psychobabble regarding what a fighter is supposedly really feeling inside, etc. I think such analysis is just a guess and often wrong.
As far as the fight, I just think RL was given 'style points', which I totally disagree with. (Same w/Ali.) Personally I feel it should be illegal for a boxer to intentionally run away from the opponent for extended periods of time (like Ray did). It's called boxing, not track or dancing. But I'll watch the fight again sometime.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers
Don't get me wrong, btw. I think Leonard was a fabulously talented top boxer. I just think Hagler (& Hearns, in the 2nd fight) beat him -- just as I think Norton beat Ali.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers Your use of the word psychobabble ALMOST made me not even bother with a reply because I feel as though you were purposely insulting my opinion. But I have to say, making it illegal for fighters to use lateral movement would be akin to telling boxers they can't block or parry punches. It's dumb to say one style is better than the other. Ray moved a lot in that fight because there was no way he could out slug Hagler. So you wanna change the rules to favor punchers? BOXING son
bandit7498 1 year ago
@bandit7498
Surprised my use of "psychobabble" seems to have touched a nerve. I just thought it was a pop term used in the context of the dubious practice of reading a person's inner state via supposed outward indicators. Kind of ironic that you object to that, but not (evidently) to using the word "dumb" to describe what you perceive to be my point of view (!). "Son" was a nice touch too. :)
But anyway, obviously I wasn't speaking merely of "using lateral movement", as I think I made clear.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers - Yeah, you were speaking of a boxer purposely avoiding combat for extended periods of time. Amateur boxers even get warned for that, but it's a fine line. SRL was doing enough punching as to where the ref probably didn't feel that he needed to tell SRL to mix it up. He let SRL implement his gameplan. It's like when some refs will break the fighters immediately if they're fighting on the inside or in a clench, and others will say "punch to get out."
comedicstuff 1 year ago
@comedicstuff
Thank you for at least understanding what I was saying. Yes, it can be a fine line, and I haven't watched the RL/MH fight in a while. I seem to remember a couple of middle rounds in particular w/Leonard dancing/skipping away from Hagler in big circles for nearly the whole round. To me that's bunk (even though the crowd laughed & cheered), and I give credit to a boxer for taking the fight to their opponent. I've heard some judges do & some don't.
(to be continued)
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers
BTW, it's interesting that back when SRL & Hagler fought, like you I was totally for Leonard and had the same reaction you did, though I hadn't seen the fight. Like most people I was wowed by the flair or 'entertainment factor' of Sugar Ray and Muhammad Ali. But I must admit that as I grew in my knowledge of boxing I came to feel that great as they were, at times both of those fighters benefited too much from their ring charisma, rather than on boxing merit, even by judges.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers
Finally, surely we can ALL agree (you, me, and even Bandit) that judge Jose Juan Guerra's scorecard in the Leonard/Hagler fight was one of the most ridiculous and biased displays in boxing history: 118-110!!! (for SRL) Are you kidding me?!
Al Bernstein is a boxing broadcaster that I have liked and respected though the years. His recent comments on Hagler (& Hagler/Leonard) are v. good. I'd include the link, but YT doesn't allow it. You can probably find it via Google.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
Iran Barkley was a first class bum Michael Nunn beat the fuck out of him and basically ended his career he just knew how to fight Hearns every great boxer has a cross to bare and Iran Barkley was Thomas Hearns cross just like Antonio Tarver was Roy Jones Jr's
synister22 4 years ago
Roy Jones lost to Tarver because he lost interest. And because he was arrogant, its always good to see someone haughty go down
IVARichards 4 years ago
roy lost too cause he was all talent speed, stamina etc. very unconventional got away from the fundamentals a long time ago. When the natural talents slipped he was there to be hit especially with him not being fundamentally sound. To me it was also accelerated with all that muscle lost when he went back down from heavy weight to fight Tarver
godsun212 4 years ago
synister22:
Good Choice or words!!! I not saying Hearns was pass his prime. I hate it when people do that. But it was long over due/time for Hearns to start hanging them up. I love hearns. He's a true champ! Kent Norton vs. Ali which Ali lost ever match. To people that know boxing!
yakahnac 4 years ago
yakahnac, if you think that, then its you who doesn't know boxing
kennyfrontosa 4 years ago
So Ken Norton doesn't know boxing either?
capablemachine 2 years ago
capablemachine 2 years before a response wow, Ken norton was one of my heroes so what are you saying.
kennyfrontosa 2 years ago
@kennyfrontosa I can't see the comment I made that in regards to.
capablemachine 2 years ago
i love barkleys style but it really back fired against Benn, Toney etc
kareemabdullah 4 years ago
I've seen Iran Barkley got his ass kicked by Roberto Duran, Michael Nunn, Nigel Benn, and James Toney. Any yet, he whooped Thomas Hearns' ass twice. Go fig.
GoneBallistik 4 years ago
Interesting, thanks for posting. You can tell Tommy is annoyed by Iran grouping them as equally 'great fighters' since everyone knows Tommy is a HOF legend and Iran was just a solid title holder at the time. But unlike the clueless punks of today like Floyd Mayweather, Hearns had too much class to deny that he lost or take any of the glory from Iran.
BPMSmith 5 years ago
Party at Bentley's!
scatman44 5 years ago