first it's Wikipedia (which means a guy thinking like you could've written it) so i don't believe it, and second it was the first world war, so it could be that armenian syrian and greeks were killed by turks, but it was not a genocide, turks had to protect their nation and their country from the enemies. if turks wanted to do genocide, they would do it in europe as they conquered european countries but quite the opposite; they helped minorities by building churches. ITS CALLED TOLERANCE
@00tellmewhy How would call deportation of hundreds of thousand of people, starving them, don't give them water, let them die or slaughter them...? If this is not genocide, then what is it? And that's what happened to Armenians and Greeks...and it was not about protecting a nation...it was about creating a nation (so, they had to eliminate what was not part of their idea...)
It was about creating a nation?? pls try to imagine, ottomans conquered east europe completely, so they already had a biiiig nation, but they didn't do anything to the armenian and greeks. they are talking about 1.5 million of dead armenians, but the problem is: the number of armenians living in turkey was less than 1 million.. stop reading modern myth...
just try to understand the potential of these tracks, music is haram but if this appeals to someones heart so much that he turns to islam and finds the truth, who can say that this can be forbidden ?
In my oppinion everything which leads to Islam is not harmful, in my opinion music which embraces sheytan in our minds is haram but this track is the opposite, its just pure love...
Interestingly the debate goes 'round and 'round about religion and the belief system of one set of peoples over another. Where there is religion there is God. God comes in many forms. In Native American culture, my brothers and sisters, it was the "Great Spirit" and in other religions He is known as Allah, Buddha, God, and the like. But all religions believe in a creative and loving God. The interpretation of God's word on the other hand gets MAN into conflict with war and tears resulting.
Let God guide us from our hearts and souls and let us not be the ones to judge any scripture of faith. Respect is love. Love is peace. Peace is trust And God needs us to live our lives right, we only were loaned a moment lof life nd breath
Great, relaxing and meditative music is how I would best describe this.
As for Sufism, it does not represent the pragmatic moderation which defines Islam. Sufism is mostly an ascetic deviation from the foundation, and appeals to those attracted to mysticism, found in all religions. Some branches go farther then others, but all deviate from the main body.
I am saying this so that if anyone really wants to understand the essence of Islam, the Qur'an is your best resource.
Love to all my Muslim Brothers and Sisters from Germany, i love every People who Love ALLAH and MOHAMMED Peace be upon him... MAke Dua Inshaallah es-selamualeykum....
@zulu2829 the problem is not Sufism in its traditional sense, Sufism allows only Tablah, which is halal, it is the conventional Sufism that is going off on a tangent, please don't get confused between the two
Oh and btw, look at the picture in this video. One hand up, one hand down. Means whatever he receives from the god, simply forwards along to his fellow men. Pretty epic.
well. you know, this is the true face of islam. but nowadays its impossible to see it due to the media. i`m a muslim and have atheist friends as well as you. they asked me to make a trip to istanbul this summer, i was very happy about that.
first, they didn't like muslims, then they met me and since the meeting everything has changed. I wish you a muslim friend, who can show you the true face of islam. If you want, i can be that person :)
@00tellmewhy Sufism is not Islam.....Islam is a religion that follows the ideology from the Qur'an which contains contradictory verses and hatred against Jews, woman and unbelievers....
my friend, you are thinking badly of islam, pls don't be the victim of the western media. You' re not able to understand Qur'an verses, it's the most difficult book of the world.
@fntime "Islam from my western prespective is the religion of intolerance
violence". I show respect to your opinoion, but let's have a look at the history, while the european empires pillaged Africa and South America and killed everyone, who didn't convert to christanity, Ottoman Empire respected the cultures and religion of the CONQUERED countries and didn't even try to convert to Islam. In my opinion ottomans were perfect people and model for all islamic countries.
@00tellmewhy I don't like you argument because it says 'yes I am wrong' BUT, you're wrong also, some how alleviating your own guilt. As I said, I'm not a fan of the Abrahamic religions, forcing people to convert, usually by threat of death, is not a spiritual approach that I'd follow whether Christian or Moslem. The defense, that 'I'm bad, BUT YOU are worse' is not a defense, just a rationalization. Thank you for your intelligent reply! Religions that 'convert' are the problem.
@00tellmewhy Wikipedia has the following comment under "assyrian Genocide" The Assyrian genocide took place in the same context as the Armenian and Pontic Greek genocides.[4] In these events, close to three million Christians of Syriac, Armenian or Greek Orthodox denomination were murdered by the Young Turks regime
"All of the Abrahamic Religions to me are product of primitive minds." Question, do you believe in God? If not, do you believe all this has happened by reason of a coincidence?, no, definetely not, Think about it,
@VirtualSamadhi ..there are no religions.....brcause they have not a book written by god...christians , yews and muslims do....that makes us diffrent and thats why we muslims believe in all 3 books...Quran, Bibel , torah ...Buddhism and all other are man made living styles
@PushMyCarr We will not try to convert you if you have not come to realize the Beloved yourself. If you do not have love then you will lack the Beloved, but if you at all do not feel any lacks in the path you follow then we are confirmed that either you are a greater Lover or someone who does not feel the need of love. Coming from a Sufi, it is not important for you to realize anything about God, but to realize what he is doing, how and where- thus, conversion is nothing important at all.
THIS IS THE PLACE TO FIND THE TRUE SPIRITUAL HAPPINESS greetings from Turkey to all of our neighbours Greece, Bulgaria, Syria, Iraq, Azarbaijan, and to ALL HUMANITY.....
I am a Falun Gong practitioner. Falun Dafa is a cultivation system in the Buddha School based on the principles of the Universe: 真 Truthfulness 善 Compassion 忍 Forbearance.
Since 1999 it has been brutally persecuted by the CCP in China. People are being killed, tortured, put into concentration camps and have organs harvested from live people, simply because of their belief. More than 3400 Falun Gong practitioners have died at the hands of CCP in the past 12 years.
daha geçen aylarda video nun toplam izlenme sayısı 500 bin kişiydi. izlenme oranının aniden artması şaşırtıcı. sonradan mı keşfedildi acaba diye düşünüyorum.
I'm proud of to be TURKİSH. I'm proud of to be descendant of Hazreti piri deskiri münir Sultânü’I-Ulemâ Bahaeddin Veled Muhammed Celaleddin-i Rumi,Fatih SuLtan Mehmet, Kanun-i SüLeyman,Mehmet Akif..
@pragnayadav Sufism has come to mean a wide range of beliefs that center on the quest for personal enlightenment in the union with God. Sufis are sometimes described as the mystics of Islam, but Sufism fits awkwardly in the categories of religions. Technically Sufism is a denomination of Islam..but you can adapt this also in your religion...still sufism came out of islam
1.Hes Turk 2.Hes master is Turk(sems) 3.Afghans are Our Bro.Gzza Turks. 4.im cant be From England cos im wrting it or i born in there.. 5.He lived 40 year there and die his body here.. 6.he become a Mevlana cos of our culture anatlia and masters...7.You cant change Truth or change history with dark propaganda or keybord.. 8.Anatioan Turks are real Turks we are not mongols or look like chines...Check pyramits princes and mumys and imegines wolfs in China Turkistan...So so We are just Turk.. SHOO
@pumapuma1 u can download freecorder 4 from cnet. i'm satisfied with this free program for 3 years. u can record a video both in video and mp3 formats :-)
we afghans say torkia TorkiA instead of turkie TurkiE
so does it change your heritage? just becouse you pronounce words with mostly with e like tE-shE-Kur its doesnt mean that these words and people belong to you ok! we say tA-ShA-Kor and its tashakor hehehehe :P
ok first of all his name is not mevlana mEvlana but Mawlana or mowlana
2. he was NOT from tabriz, important to know who he was, is NOT the place where he died but where his roots are from
3. he was from Balkh todays afghanistan ancient east Persia/arya
4. hence a turk told me that turks are talking about mevlana and not mowlana so mevlana was turkish lol when you call him mevlana then his heritage wont change but only some letters of his name hehehe
@sam1368sam Brother sam sorry to spoil the party for ya mate. 1: Persia doesnt exist anymore. 2: Maulana Jalaludin is known as Maulana Jalaludin Balkhi. It wasnt until he moved to Turkey that they started calling him Rumi. Balkh is in today`s Afghanistan ( in the north of the country). His spiritual radiance knows no boundaries except that set by Allah however it will honour his spirit to be factual. Thanks
@sam1368sam I understand you are proud of a persian. But look to your history. since the seldjuk empire persians have been always ruled by the Turks until the 20.th century. Therefore nationalism is not a good therapy for the persians and for everyones.
@shamanodu yeap persians did not rule iran even until 20th until the pahlavi's took power before then they were ruled by azeri-turkic dynasty! but past is past........Persian culture had influenced so much in the Muslim world :)
dear friend, I envy you that you have not had experience with the Europeans, when they probably learned that does not exist arrogant nation from "Western" Europeans And because you could make 1000 the facts but let's say it this way, whether you really expect that Europeans will allow the story of a small Bosnian Muslims who have such a rich culture that was far more advanced than them at that time? If you believe in it, then you are more than naive
TENDER WORDS Tender words we spoke to one another are sealed in the secret vaults of heaven. One day like rain, they will fall to earth and grow green all over the world. —Rumi
I have read in the comments here that "sukun" means peace in Turkish, but one person said it's an Arabic word. So which language is it? What is the complete meaning and the context in which it is used? Thank you for any help..
I beleive in one god, not your separtist gods, but the god that loves us all, try as you might to seperate us with your organised religions and titles etc . Would god create the divisions that the relgions you belong to create....Think it through? Why would god create a world with many religions. There is only one God.That god is not a part of any of the religious traps you have all fallen into. You will all see this soon.
@SynchroEurope god made a system,according to which he wanted his creation to live.
d religions of the world r created by man not d 1 true god.he made only 1 religion rest r all created by man.by d way who said god loves all??does he love d murderer d rapist d evil??no he dosen't.
try searching that 1 true religion,which is without any flaws.
""do they not consider d quran with care?had it been frm anyone other than god, they wd have found many contradictions""
@yfnd123 Contradictions are a point of interpretation.... The funny thing is all religions claim they have no contradictions , but this is something different.... do you think it's not egoistic to think that only your own religion is the true ?
@yfnd123 God is greater than a religion. Greater than a stupid dogma.... God is Love and respect to all thnigs and people around you.. do you think you 're a good muslim/christian/jew/buddhist/hindu/mazdaist/asatruar/shindoist/pagan etc. if you are only make your prayers and the rest formulas but you hate for example the nonbelievers in your religion ??? I think the point is Love , Virtue and Respect to all beings ...
@megasayajinsongoku99 yes ,god is greater than a religion(his system).do u think he created man without a manual,without do s n don'ts.you d b an escapist if u think like that.u dont want to live ur life according to his plan.thats y u reject calling it a stupid dogma.isnt that stupid of u???
@yfnd123 do you really think God created together with the humans a book ???? From which reason do you think the Devine created the humans ? From Love ... So is Love the key element to understand God, not a stupid book. The devine books are important but without Love and Humanity the books are only books and not the devine wisdom....
@yfnd123 My friend about Buddhism/Nirvana you have no idea what you 're talking about. I understand you. It's very difficult to understand or to follow the Dharma . For me Buddism is one of the best things humans ever had.... it's about Love, Compassion to all beings..... if you want and you are not afraid study the buddhist philosophy objektive and you will see that God is greater than you may can imagine.....
@megasayajinsongoku99 Islam is all about love too...but easily misunderstood, the islam allowed to live with any religion without hating them, see the ottoman empire...but how many times do you think the islam got betrayed by the people that the muslim loved? you may say that buddism is the best but for me it is islam...we are not allowed to spread hate...and yet there are blockheads that are using the name islam and make it seem it is bad religion...
@12081985 I see you 're a noble person and a noble muslim.... I apologize for my ''argumentation against Islam'' .. It had as aim only the blown ego of a muslim who insulted other religions .. If a Christian or a Buddhist would insult other religions too , then I would also argementate against his religion... I like many religions , but I don't like it if the religions divide the humans and if the humans insult other cultures and religions..
@12081985 haha!! of course they are !! btw has the Islam only one or two ramazans? Has Islam also other fasts except of ramazan ?
My friend look we must be objektive .... The history of the balkan people say only the negative aspects of the Ottomans.. The Turk history say only the positice sides... I think the truth is in the middle.... I don't think ''conquer for peace'' is a reason to make wars ... so did also Bush or the colonialists..
@megasayajinsongoku99 well that's up to you to decide... :) believe in what you wants to believe...be positive...for me, not in any religion there is killing a harmless person, allowed..because it all from Allah/God (or whatever it names are) He decide who will leave the body and who not, we have no right to rob someone lives....only in wars, if it is out of self defence or fighting for your believe (I mean like fighting for righteousness and justice)
@12081985 Hello bro! Thanks for your informations. Yes this is the right attitude. It's the same if someoe believe in Yahwe/Christ/Allah/Krishna/Shiva/Kali/Brahman/Buddha/Con fu ci social system /paganism/Asatru/Nova Roma/Hellenism/Tengriism(the native religion of turcic tribes), it's the same for me if someone believes in the Dao(what this may be :D ) of LAo Ce , or if he is an atheist,agnosticist or if he has found his own religion ...
@12081985 I think the important think of live is to be a kind person and to love and to respect all people , all beings .. all the world-universe.... We all make mistakes, but we must try to be everyday better than yesterday.. Of course I would bring you in a hospital if you were sick . I think most of the people would do the same .. Generally It's good if we study many religions , so we can fight the ''prejudices'' that exist in our minds...
@megasayajinsongoku99 f someone jew or a Christian or Buddhist or Satanist, what could be wrong? but he let his hobby thing or do we believe in the same God / Allah, Buddha or whatever ... as long as they do not hurt other people or animals with it. be positive, be creative, be honest, be trustworthy, be helpful, be understanding, be accepting, be curious, be fair and be loving to other people...and do not get old grudges and starting to spread hatred...that's so much to ask?
@12081985 About the Kurds and generally we must be very carefully because some sides are subjektive in their informations .... The best would be to sit with each other and to talk calm with a real will to help each other...
@megasayajinsongoku99 see what happens in syria, turkey wants to protect those people who are the victims of a psycho...it is rule of any religion and humanity thought to help people who are in need...dont you think so too? if you saw me dying, wouldnt you pity me and help me and bring to the hospital? that is because you are kind and you believe that this is the right thing to do, it may also the rule of a believe that you hold...
@12081985 Hello bro! Thanks for your infos. I will response to you. They were very interesting! Yes this is the right attitude... For me it's the same if one believes in Yahwe/Christ/Allah/Krisna/Shiva/Brahman/Dharma of Buddha/Con fucis social systems/ the Dao(although the essence of Dao is different from a omnipotent Being) of Lao Ce , paganism , atheism , agnosticism , it's the same for me if someone believe in afterlive , in no -afterlive or in the cycle of rebirth..
@12081985 Hello bro! Thanks for your infos. I will response to you. They were very interesting! Yes this is the right attitude... For me it's the same if one believes in Yahwe/Christ/Allah/Krisna/Shiva/Brahman/Dharma of Buddha/Con fucis social systems/ the Dao(although the essence of Dao is different from a omnipotent Being) of Lao Ce , paganism , atheism , agnosticism , it's the same for me if someone believe in afterlive , in no -afterlive or in the cycle of rebirth..
@12081985 Hello bro! Thanks for your infos. I will response to you. They were very interesting! Yes this is the right attitude... For me it's the same if one believes in Yahwe/Christ/Allah/Krisna/Shiva/Brahman/Dharma of Buddha/Con fucis social systems/ the Dao(although the essence of Dao is different from a omnipotent Being) of Lao Ce , paganism , atheism , agnosticism , it's the same for me if someone believe in afterlive , in no -afterlive or in the cycle of rebirth..
@12081985 Yes sadly some ultra-nationalistic people exist also in Greece and sadly exist some in every country... About Syria yes you 're right.... But I think a war is the last way... If we must fight a war than the UN must intervene, not to conquer Syria but to help the democracy and the freedom... but I know this is very difficaultto do in our modern world... The role of Turkey in Syria and with Israel is noble indeed, but my friend what with the Curds ?
@megasayajinsongoku99 the kurds no the pkk are the one causing upstir that their war in 1980, they think they are responsible for whole kurdish nation...but it's not true, there are alot of kurds that are against them but they are also easily misunderstood and hated because let me say a example: a turkish happy family, a son is asked to fight for their land against kurdish terrorist...happy family lose their son in action...what do you think how average people will react?
@12081985 they will hate the Kurds as a whole... The opposite is also true... Turkish army kills a Kurdish terrorist or a innocent kurdish boy .. his family wil hate the Turks as a whole .... man this is the weakness of us humans... we generalize if we are confronted with arger and sorrow
@megasayajinsongoku99 the kurds no the pkk are the one causing upstir that their war in 1980, they think they are responsible for whole kurdish nation...but it's not true, there are alot of kurds that are against them but they are also easily misunderstood and hated because let me say a example: a turkish happy family, a son is asked to fight for their land against kurdish terrorist...happy family lose their son in action...what do you think how average people will react?
@megasayajinsongoku99 they will hate the terrorist origin...a kurdish terrorist, this happy family will be blinded in hate and revenge and will do foolish act like hating a whole nation that was responsible of their son's death...
10 years ago, kurds had no rights and freedom even the turkish muslims didnt have any rights...do you know how many people in turkey hate ataturk? he was a traitor....but they cant say it in public because they are afraid to be sentenced and tortured to death...
@12081985 Wow , I didn't knew that they are Turks who hate Ataturk . I don't had comprehend this side of history. Indeed the AKP party and Erdogan are very good politicians... Specially Erdogan is as I think a very good and noble politician....
@megasayajinsongoku99 but until AK party came, they started to lose everthing and then turkey started to bloom and created a new democracy....there are still hardcore ataturk fans that doesnt wants that...but since this ak party came everthing has gone much better...but the only problem is the pkk that is giving the kurds bad name...kurds have alot of rights in turkey, they can speak kurdish, there is a school that are teached kurdish language even kurdish tv channel and music....
@megasayajinsongoku99 try to find out what that kurds (pkk that you refer to) wants...i think you will find it also unacceptable...I'm myself really peaceful, only thought that comes in my mind is "world peace" enjoying from difference culture, people, try to taste, feel it, love it, care it, no bias on what you see outer appearance of a person but what you see in them and their opinion...share it, accept, no hard feeling...this is what i really wants...cant we stop spreading hate?
@12081985 I don't speak about the Kurdish terrorists and co... They are a shame for their culture .... I speak about the oppresion of the Kurds from the turkish politics (specialy earlier was it so , so far I been able to know) .. In my opinion the Turkish goverment must give to the Kurds more freedom, rights and democracy...
@megasayajinsongoku99 the turkish government is already giving alot of rights and freedom...but the problem is, the pkk wants lands of turkey that never was of theirs....and they are financed by isreal and usa...and second, like i said, they wants lands of turkey saying it was theirs, that's not true, because before the turks came it was the home of greeks and byzantium empire...so it was never of kurds...but hey, the kurds that dont feel freedom are the ones that are siding with pkk
@12081985 I respect your opinion and your religion but sadly as you said you religion is shown as a retarted and hateful religion because of some ignorant blockheads without education... I like specially the Sufism in Islam.
Generally you said about the Ottoman Empire. You should know my friend that the Ottomans,despite of some positive sides they had, they were conquerors.... It's not good to conquer and to make wars .. peace and wellfare to all beings ....
@megasayajinsongoku99 do you know why the ottomans qonquerred those countries? their aim was to return the peace...the greeks were fighting against the romanians, romanians fighting against italians, italians fighting against the greeks, persians were fighting against greeks, persians also was in war with arabs, the dutch were in war with belgium and with spain...an endless cycle...so the seljuks (later the ottomans) wanted to end that fight...so their goal was to qonquer any country...
@megasayajinsongoku99 look what the ottomans gave to the dutch people a ottoman flag on their boats and a necklage, if spain attack dutch ships, means trouble with ottomans, so it ended the war (see, Rather Turkish than Pope") and then there was 600 year peace in all religions in ottoman empire...but at last some group people just wanted to start war and create their own place and betrayed the sultans, by killing them and trying to find more companians to go against the ottomans...
@megasayajinsongoku99 see the arab leaders got tricked by the british, armenians, the russians, the greeks and bulgarians, they all betrayed the ottomans, it seems they didnt want peace anymore, if they didnt do that, then the war in middle eastern wouldnt happen, because the sultan's words are absolute, the christianity has the popes, the islam had the chaliphate, and sultan was the caliphate, he wouldnt allow any religion war...like that happened 600 years long, every person had equally rights
@12081985 Some Turks were very fair and good soliders , but sadly some were also more cruel .. The same takes effect for all nations/armies.you can not say it was for peace... you cannot solve problems with violence .. violence only brings more violence, look at the yanitscharies .. young guys which were kidnaped from the sultan to be a fanatic fighter for him.... the nonmuslim payed a tax to the muslims ... do you think its
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milliforum 1 day ago
I'm atheist and I love the Sufism
Gadapaj 2 days ago
beautiful music! it moves me! Thank you!!!
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00tellmewhy 1 week ago
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first it's Wikipedia (which means a guy thinking like you could've written it) so i don't believe it, and second it was the first world war, so it could be that armenian syrian and greeks were killed by turks, but it was not a genocide, turks had to protect their nation and their country from the enemies. if turks wanted to do genocide, they would do it in europe as they conquered european countries but quite the opposite; they helped minorities by building churches. ITS CALLED TOLERANCE
00tellmewhy 1 week ago
@00tellmewhy How would call deportation of hundreds of thousand of people, starving them, don't give them water, let them die or slaughter them...? If this is not genocide, then what is it? And that's what happened to Armenians and Greeks...and it was not about protecting a nation...it was about creating a nation (so, they had to eliminate what was not part of their idea...)
chrisilektra 1 day ago
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It was about creating a nation?? pls try to imagine, ottomans conquered east europe completely, so they already had a biiiig nation, but they didn't do anything to the armenian and greeks. they are talking about 1.5 million of dead armenians, but the problem is: the number of armenians living in turkey was less than 1 million.. stop reading modern myth...
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00tellmewhy 1 week ago
I'm listening this music everyday. This practice is not for discovering Islam or any other religion..but for feeling the god...
deepthiapb 1 week ago
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good point. but remember, to feel God deeply one needs to search for Him with patience.
MrAelmas 6 days ago in playlist tasavvuf
@MrAelmas All good music resembles something. Good music stirs by its mysterious resemblance to the objects and feelings which motivated it.
deepthiapb 6 days ago
I don't know how to express my feelings...... god touched me in his fingers......
deepthiapb 1 week ago
Turklarga salom Uzbekistondan.
XxCreatorxX927 1 week ago
People of Bid'ah!
weezyfbaby604 1 week ago
just try to understand the potential of these tracks, music is haram but if this appeals to someones heart so much that he turns to islam and finds the truth, who can say that this can be forbidden ?
In my oppinion everything which leads to Islam is not harmful, in my opinion music which embraces sheytan in our minds is haram but this track is the opposite, its just pure love...
eryilmaz89 2 weeks ago 2
Nothing but love and peace. wow
teslic100 2 weeks ago
Interestingly the debate goes 'round and 'round about religion and the belief system of one set of peoples over another. Where there is religion there is God. God comes in many forms. In Native American culture, my brothers and sisters, it was the "Great Spirit" and in other religions He is known as Allah, Buddha, God, and the like. But all religions believe in a creative and loving God. The interpretation of God's word on the other hand gets MAN into conflict with war and tears resulting.
TheGrumpy60 2 weeks ago
Let God guide us from our hearts and souls and let us not be the ones to judge any scripture of faith. Respect is love. Love is peace. Peace is trust And God needs us to live our lives right, we only were loaned a moment lof life nd breath
YASIcee 3 weeks ago 7
A lyrical interpretation of this beautiful sufi music can be found by Googling "See Limitless Creative Challenge Instrumental Music Interpretation"
Did you interpret the meaning to be the same?
SeeLimitless 3 weeks ago
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Nearniot 3 weeks ago
Great, relaxing and meditative music is how I would best describe this.
As for Sufism, it does not represent the pragmatic moderation which defines Islam. Sufism is mostly an ascetic deviation from the foundation, and appeals to those attracted to mysticism, found in all religions. Some branches go farther then others, but all deviate from the main body.
I am saying this so that if anyone really wants to understand the essence of Islam, the Qur'an is your best resource.
mithalalwasat 3 weeks ago
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alimardan1 4 weeks ago 2
Love to all my Muslim Brothers and Sisters from Germany, i love every People who Love ALLAH and MOHAMMED Peace be upon him... MAke Dua Inshaallah es-selamualeykum....
87atilla87 4 weeks ago 3
I thought prophet Muhammed (pbuh) said that all musical instruments are haram??
So how can Sufism exist in Islam??
Please can someone explain the reasoning behind Sufism, I am truly confused??
zulu2829 4 weeks ago
@zulu2829 the problem is not Sufism in its traditional sense, Sufism allows only Tablah, which is halal, it is the conventional Sufism that is going off on a tangent, please don't get confused between the two
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Maysoun2009 3 weeks ago
@zulu2829 ...classical Islam is Sufism or Tasawuf
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Selam from Bosnian muslim!
vedadrokkor 1 month ago
Oh and btw, look at the picture in this video. One hand up, one hand down. Means whatever he receives from the god, simply forwards along to his fellow men. Pretty epic.
PushMyCarr 1 month ago
I'm an atheist and I once attended to one of Sufi prayers.
I went there out of curiosity, introduced myself, told them that I was an atheist.
They were friendly and invited me to join them.
Prayer itself was a pretty awesome experience, like the best rave party you've been to.
Afterwards, I was invited to have a chat with the main guy (Shaykh). We talked while having some tea, silent music (like this one) in the background.
He didn't even try to convert me.
Had a lot of fun that night.
PushMyCarr 1 month ago 53
@PushMyCarr
well. you know, this is the true face of islam. but nowadays its impossible to see it due to the media. i`m a muslim and have atheist friends as well as you. they asked me to make a trip to istanbul this summer, i was very happy about that.
first, they didn't like muslims, then they met me and since the meeting everything has changed. I wish you a muslim friend, who can show you the true face of islam. If you want, i can be that person :)
00tellmewhy 3 weeks ago
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mithalalwasat 3 weeks ago
@00tellmewhy Sufism is not Islam.....Islam is a religion that follows the ideology from the Qur'an which contains contradictory verses and hatred against Jews, woman and unbelievers....
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 3 weeks ago
@TheUndertakerSaysRIP
my friend, you are thinking badly of islam, pls don't be the victim of the western media. You' re not able to understand Qur'an verses, it's the most difficult book of the world.
00tellmewhy 3 weeks ago
@00tellmewhy I'm not sure that 'western media' is to blame.
Islam from my western prespective is the religion of intolerance
violence and submissive slavery to a Prime Mover that doesn't
need submission~
All of the Abrahamic religions to me are the product of primitive
minds. But, I do admire the sufi approach.
God, doesn't need YOUR help, he needs your understanding
of his creation and the different levels of men, in their 'dance'
to perfection and return to the 'source'!
fntime 2 weeks ago
@fntime "Islam from my western prespective is the religion of intolerance
violence". I show respect to your opinoion, but let's have a look at the history, while the european empires pillaged Africa and South America and killed everyone, who didn't convert to christanity, Ottoman Empire respected the cultures and religion of the CONQUERED countries and didn't even try to convert to Islam. In my opinion ottomans were perfect people and model for all islamic countries.
00tellmewhy 2 weeks ago
fntime 1 week ago
@00tellmewhy Wikipedia has the following comment under "assyrian Genocide" The Assyrian genocide took place in the same context as the Armenian and Pontic Greek genocides.[4] In these events, close to three million Christians of Syriac, Armenian or Greek Orthodox denomination were murdered by the Young Turks regime
J0s5p8 1 week ago
@fntime
"All of the Abrahamic Religions to me are product of primitive minds." Question, do you believe in God? If not, do you believe all this has happened by reason of a coincidence?, no, definetely not, Think about it,
00tellmewhy 2 weeks ago
@00tellmewhy Do you believe ALL religions MUST be based on Abrahamism? No. Go read some Buddhist or Zen literature. Start with Tao te Ching...
VirtualSamadhi 2 weeks ago
@VirtualSamadhi ..there are no religions.....brcause they have not a book written by god...christians , yews and muslims do....that makes us diffrent and thats why we muslims believe in all 3 books...Quran, Bibel , torah ...Buddhism and all other are man made living styles
Maysoun2009 1 week ago
@00tellmewhy Yes I do!
When you say, 'all this has happened by reason of a coincidence'
I don't understand what you are asking.
I've probably given this subject as much thought as can be effective
for the road to the 'Prime Mover'.
I'll listen to what you have to say, but it is hard enough to understand
the intentions of another where you don't see their face and
only have 300 characters to make a case.
fntime 1 week ago
@PushMyCarr Mystics Do Not Believe In Conversion. As A Sufi He Already Saw You As Connected To Allah And The Universe. That's Why I LOVE SUFISM.
AntoineLamond1 1 week ago 2
@PushMyCarr
making islamic dawah with music and sufi prayers party
just one question do you think that our prophet was doing this things >>>????
please i need the sheykh u was setting with to reply to this question
salam alikoum
theshiningeagle 1 week ago
@theshiningeagle
"InnAllahe Cemilun, yuhibbu'lCemal" -Prophet Muhammad (s.a.v.)
Don't take this music as a prayer, brother, but as an invitation to get rid of worldly matters and collect your mind.
If one likes listening to these type of music, let him listen and give an opportunity to discover Islam.
MrAelmas 1 week ago in playlist tasavvuf
@PushMyCarr We will not try to convert you if you have not come to realize the Beloved yourself. If you do not have love then you will lack the Beloved, but if you at all do not feel any lacks in the path you follow then we are confirmed that either you are a greater Lover or someone who does not feel the need of love. Coming from a Sufi, it is not important for you to realize anything about God, but to realize what he is doing, how and where- thus, conversion is nothing important at all.
OmegaDende 1 day ago
THIS IS THE PLACE TO FIND THE TRUE SPIRITUAL HAPPINESS greetings from Turkey to all of our neighbours Greece, Bulgaria, Syria, Iraq, Azarbaijan, and to ALL HUMANITY.....
Antalienne 1 month ago
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I am a singer/songwriter,not another cover youtube singer stuff
Whether or not you like it, id be grateful if you gave me a chance
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Vox572X 1 month ago
very, very relaxing. good to listen to while meditating. LOVE PEACE HARMONY.
daywokka 1 month ago
awesome. turks are our brothers in spirit and bond.
from pakistan
44iris 1 month ago 3
Loves the music like anythin....
Manidabest1 1 month ago
nigga this is peace man i told u dont fok wi me this is peaceeeee song niggahhh
AlZekrino 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
genemi liseli... olu taklidi yap dervisss abii
arkabahce 1 month ago
No Ekşi Sözlük
cCc Altını Şer cCc
cCc İncisi Ker cCc
ozdogan46 1 month ago
Amazing how we live and expire; amazing how we expire and fade
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Xiaolian7 1 month ago
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fredericch 1 month ago
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daha geçen aylarda video nun toplam izlenme sayısı 500 bin kişiydi. izlenme oranının aniden artması şaşırtıcı. sonradan mı keşfedildi acaba diye düşünüyorum.
tojunnnelf 1 month ago
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tojunnnelf 1 month ago
mükemmel gercekten
MrUludasdemir 1 month ago
Perfect...
Khaled88223 1 month ago
nice
thamer7A7 1 month ago
tiversonus01, where can I get more music like this ?
asderso 1 month ago
@asderso try also "Yansımalar - Ercan Irmak - Pervane" on youtube. you might like it, it's Turkish "duduk" music, also generally called Sufi music.
Zulkarnayn 1 month ago
@Zulkarnayn i meant "Ney" not "Duduk", "Duduk" is similar, but it means more like flute, so it's more like a general term.
Zulkarnayn 1 month ago
@Zulkarnayn Thank You, I cannot believe, for 2 days now I am addicted to this "crying" flute that heals my frustrations !!! Have a nice week - end !
asderso 1 month ago
@asderso you are welcome my friend :)
Zulkarnayn 1 month ago
I'm proud of to be TURKİSH. I'm proud of to be descendant of Hazreti piri deskiri münir Sultânü’I-Ulemâ Bahaeddin Veled Muhammed Celaleddin-i Rumi,Fatih SuLtan Mehmet, Kanun-i SüLeyman,Mehmet Akif..
somebodystpme 1 month ago
sufis are idolworshipers
tomtomttom 1 month ago
tiversonus01 Thank You, the way that flute cries at the begining.... ahhh how he cries...
asderso 1 month ago
me hace sentir la sensación de volar de verdad, gracias por subir esta musica, martin biuss
martinbiuss 1 month ago
so nice
MrDaniyal31 1 month ago
Love from mars
parduspanthera91 2 months ago
beautiful and heart touching. its amazing how turkey have add colors to the whole world.
love and love and love from pakistan. terkey we love u really as a nation.
baburhyatt 2 months ago 31
@baburhyatt TURKEY PAKISTAN IS WITH U V RHE NATION IS AT UR BACK
dukeofdevilz1 1 week ago
<3 !
XC3LLENCE 2 months ago
Fantastic song!!!!!
sofia2411 2 months ago
these people are the real free people...
relaxat 2 months ago
Blissful music.
zaidimus 2 months ago
SAkitləşdirir...
Nadjafoff 2 months ago
I was fortunate enough to visit konya. Now i am in love with antolia and turk music. Deep respect from canada.
zmannsw 2 months ago
wah......wah thank u
MrKamalkishorgoswami 2 months ago
What is that for a kind of music ?
streetdisciple987 2 months ago
@streetdisciple987 it is called spiritual music....this is in islam called sufi...
12081985 2 months ago
@12081985 thanks you
streetdisciple987 2 months ago
@12081985 what is the exact meaning of sufi?
pragnayadav 2 months ago
@pragnayadav Sufism has come to mean a wide range of beliefs that center on the quest for personal enlightenment in the union with God. Sufis are sometimes described as the mystics of Islam, but Sufism fits awkwardly in the categories of religions. Technically Sufism is a denomination of Islam..but you can adapt this also in your religion...still sufism came out of islam
12081985 2 months ago
@12081985 Thank you for the explanation..I love this music..
pragnayadav 2 months ago
Yüreğiniize sağlık...
serdenization 2 months ago
1.Hes Turk 2.Hes master is Turk(sems) 3.Afghans are Our Bro.Gzza Turks. 4.im cant be From England cos im wrting it or i born in there.. 5.He lived 40 year there and die his body here.. 6.he become a Mevlana cos of our culture anatlia and masters...7.You cant change Truth or change history with dark propaganda or keybord.. 8.Anatioan Turks are real Turks we are not mongols or look like chines...Check pyramits princes and mumys and imegines wolfs in China Turkistan...So so We are just Turk.. SHOO
Ouzconqueror 2 months ago
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So spiritual, so in-touching, so lovely and peaceful, may Allah bless you.
aliraqi989 2 months ago
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aliraqi989 2 months ago
Love from Bulgaria!
SolarDog69 3 months ago 6
Can anybody tell me how I can get this song on cd or mp3 please !
pumapuma1 3 months ago
@pumapuma1 go to google, type: Youtube to mp3, copy and paste link, download mp3 and put it to your mp3 :)
LetsSeeTheTruth 3 months ago
@pumapuma1 u can download freecorder 4 from cnet. i'm satisfied with this free program for 3 years. u can record a video both in video and mp3 formats :-)
ismetsoner 2 months ago
love from Pakistan.
ourpak1 3 months ago 2
“The minute I heard my first love story,
I started looking for you, not knowing
how blind that was.
Lovers don't finally meet somewhere.
They're in each other all along.”
― Rumi, The Illuminated Rumi
Sonita786 3 months ago
@Sonita786 He describes his love to God(swt) :)))
Ilhami123 2 months ago
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RoselilDK 3 months ago
u can find it in kastor all video downloader.
there is an option to convert youtube video to mp3
devil1857 3 months ago
@RoselilDK U can do it online. write this in google : youtube to mp3. u get a website that allows u to download it.
zenjabyl25 3 months ago
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please learn about islam, not from the tv or news, you will see.....
hacisman 3 months ago
Great sound . Great Tunes. Heart touching effetcs.............Thanks for uploading such a piece of art.
valuablezero 3 months ago
چه آنها انجام اگر آنها در حال رقص نیست
afghanistan9539 3 months ago
ne iran ne afgan ne de turk o hanif bir musluman hz mevlana
02584 3 months ago
@02584 Mevlana’nın neredeyse tüm yazmalarında bulunan rubaisi şöyle:
“Yabancı bellemeyin beni, ben de bu ildenim,
Sizin vatanınızda kendi yurdumu aramaktayım,
Her ne kadar düşman gibi görünsem de, düşman değilim,
Her ne kadar Farsça söylesem de, aslım Türktür benim.”
JanissaryMTF 3 months ago 2
i can feel this song i love it
sherk27 3 months ago
we afghans say torkia TorkiA instead of turkie TurkiE
so does it change your heritage? just becouse you pronounce words with mostly with e like tE-shE-Kur its doesnt mean that these words and people belong to you ok! we say tA-ShA-Kor and its tashakor hehehehe :P
TheAFGpersiangirlAFG 3 months ago
ok first of all his name is not mevlana mEvlana but Mawlana or mowlana
2. he was NOT from tabriz, important to know who he was, is NOT the place where he died but where his roots are from
3. he was from Balkh todays afghanistan ancient east Persia/arya
4. hence a turk told me that turks are talking about mevlana and not mowlana so mevlana was turkish lol when you call him mevlana then his heritage wont change but only some letters of his name hehehe
TheAFGpersiangirlAFG 3 months ago
it is called ney u blow to play the instrument
dreamgers 3 months ago
Does anyone know the instrument at the beginning of this?
fishfoodlad 3 months ago
persian gulf...and it's a persian music and melody...RUMI is from PERSIA...RUMI is PERSIAN.
sam1368sam 4 months ago
@sam1368sam Brother sam sorry to spoil the party for ya mate. 1: Persia doesnt exist anymore. 2: Maulana Jalaludin is known as Maulana Jalaludin Balkhi. It wasnt until he moved to Turkey that they started calling him Rumi. Balkh is in today`s Afghanistan ( in the north of the country). His spiritual radiance knows no boundaries except that set by Allah however it will honour his spirit to be factual. Thanks
MrPEACEBONU 3 months ago
@sam1368sam I understand you are proud of a persian. But look to your history. since the seldjuk empire persians have been always ruled by the Turks until the 20.th century. Therefore nationalism is not a good therapy for the persians and for everyones.
shamanodu 3 months ago
@shamanodu yeap persians did not rule iran even until 20th until the pahlavi's took power before then they were ruled by azeri-turkic dynasty! but past is past........Persian culture had influenced so much in the Muslim world :)
aszkanfederation28 3 months ago
all i can say about this wonderful tune is ALLAH U AKBAR ALLAH U AKBAR
dreamgers 4 months ago 2
Gel de anlat hissetttiklerini...
Bir küçük odadasın ama Dünyaları dolaşıyorsun?
Neyi nasıl anlatabilirim ki?...
BerkayTepe 4 months ago
dear friend, I envy you that you have not had experience with the Europeans, when they probably learned that does not exist arrogant nation from "Western" Europeans And because you could make 1000 the facts but let's say it this way, whether you really expect that Europeans will allow the story of a small Bosnian Muslims who have such a rich culture that was far more advanced than them at that time? If you believe in it, then you are more than naive
01muki01 4 months ago
I feel God's presence in this music.
younoseeit 4 months ago
Its talking to my heart...
codeoner1 4 months ago
"Do not be satisfied with the stories that come before you. Unfold your own myth."
-Rumi-
sambawomen 4 months ago 71
@sambawomen word
alangrubner 3 months ago
I don't understand why we just not enjoy the music and stop talking anything behind such as religion !
tuncherferad 4 months ago
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StephanieLisaTara 4 months ago
This is not just a music. this is a healing. formerly used in the treatment of mental patients.
sekurnet 4 months ago 2
thx for this melody
akma632 4 months ago
I have read in the comments here that "sukun" means peace in Turkish, but one person said it's an Arabic word. So which language is it? What is the complete meaning and the context in which it is used? Thank you for any help..
threeforked 4 months ago
very nice....
peacemaker2020 5 months ago
ت
Allah Akhbar Bitchehz
shipitintheremate 5 months ago
I am a hindu and I must say that this is one the most beautiful piece of music I have heard. Very tranquil and calm. Absolutely love Sufi music.
arixnet 5 months ago
Salam from a Yemeni living in Malaysia, Eid Mubark!!
san098kdu 5 months ago
The best believers are those who truly search for God
Somespatanwarrior 5 months ago
I beleive in one god, not your separtist gods, but the god that loves us all, try as you might to seperate us with your organised religions and titles etc . Would god create the divisions that the relgions you belong to create....Think it through? Why would god create a world with many religions. There is only one God.That god is not a part of any of the religious traps you have all fallen into. You will all see this soon.
SynchroEurope 5 months ago
@SynchroEurope god made a system,according to which he wanted his creation to live.
d religions of the world r created by man not d 1 true god.he made only 1 religion rest r all created by man.by d way who said god loves all??does he love d murderer d rapist d evil??no he dosen't.
try searching that 1 true religion,which is without any flaws.
""do they not consider d quran with care?had it been frm anyone other than god, they wd have found many contradictions""
yfnd123 5 months ago
@yfnd123 Contradictions are a point of interpretation.... The funny thing is all religions claim they have no contradictions , but this is something different.... do you think it's not egoistic to think that only your own religion is the true ?
megasayajinsongoku99 5 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 would nt it b grt 2 have a commnality in intrepratation???
yfnd123 5 months ago
@yfnd123 God is greater than a religion. Greater than a stupid dogma.... God is Love and respect to all thnigs and people around you.. do you think you 're a good muslim/christian/jew/buddhist/hindu/mazdaist/asatruar/shindoist/pagan etc. if you are only make your prayers and the rest formulas but you hate for example the nonbelievers in your religion ??? I think the point is Love , Virtue and Respect to all beings ...
megasayajinsongoku99 5 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 yes ,god is greater than a religion(his system).do u think he created man without a manual,without do s n don'ts.you d b an escapist if u think like that.u dont want to live ur life according to his plan.thats y u reject calling it a stupid dogma.isnt that stupid of u???
yfnd123 5 months ago
@yfnd123 do you really think God created together with the humans a book ???? From which reason do you think the Devine created the humans ? From Love ... So is Love the key element to understand God, not a stupid book. The devine books are important but without Love and Humanity the books are only books and not the devine wisdom....
megasayajinsongoku99 5 months ago
@yfnd123 My friend about Buddhism/Nirvana you have no idea what you 're talking about. I understand you. It's very difficult to understand or to follow the Dharma . For me Buddism is one of the best things humans ever had.... it's about Love, Compassion to all beings..... if you want and you are not afraid study the buddhist philosophy objektive and you will see that God is greater than you may can imagine.....
megasayajinsongoku99 5 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 Islam is all about love too...but easily misunderstood, the islam allowed to live with any religion without hating them, see the ottoman empire...but how many times do you think the islam got betrayed by the people that the muslim loved? you may say that buddism is the best but for me it is islam...we are not allowed to spread hate...and yet there are blockheads that are using the name islam and make it seem it is bad religion...
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 I see you 're a noble person and a noble muslim.... I apologize for my ''argumentation against Islam'' .. It had as aim only the blown ego of a muslim who insulted other religions .. If a Christian or a Buddhist would insult other religions too , then I would also argementate against his religion... I like many religions , but I don't like it if the religions divide the humans and if the humans insult other cultures and religions..
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 and by the way, people who loves dragonball z and goku are always good person :)
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 haha!! of course they are !! btw has the Islam only one or two ramazans? Has Islam also other fasts except of ramazan ?
My friend look we must be objektive .... The history of the balkan people say only the negative aspects of the Ottomans.. The Turk history say only the positice sides... I think the truth is in the middle.... I don't think ''conquer for peace'' is a reason to make wars ... so did also Bush or the colonialists..
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 well that's up to you to decide... :) believe in what you wants to believe...be positive...for me, not in any religion there is killing a harmless person, allowed..because it all from Allah/God (or whatever it names are) He decide who will leave the body and who not, we have no right to rob someone lives....only in wars, if it is out of self defence or fighting for your believe (I mean like fighting for righteousness and justice)
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 Hello bro! Thanks for your informations. Yes this is the right attitude. It's the same if someoe believe in Yahwe/Christ/Allah/Krishna/Shiva/Kali/Brahman/Buddha/Con fu ci social system /paganism/Asatru/Nova Roma/Hellenism/Tengriism(the native religion of turcic tribes), it's the same for me if someone believes in the Dao(what this may be :D ) of LAo Ce , or if he is an atheist,agnosticist or if he has found his own religion ...
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@12081985 I think the important think of live is to be a kind person and to love and to respect all people , all beings .. all the world-universe.... We all make mistakes, but we must try to be everyday better than yesterday.. Of course I would bring you in a hospital if you were sick . I think most of the people would do the same .. Generally It's good if we study many religions , so we can fight the ''prejudices'' that exist in our minds...
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 f someone jew or a Christian or Buddhist or Satanist, what could be wrong? but he let his hobby thing or do we believe in the same God / Allah, Buddha or whatever ... as long as they do not hurt other people or animals with it. be positive, be creative, be honest, be trustworthy, be helpful, be understanding, be accepting, be curious, be fair and be loving to other people...and do not get old grudges and starting to spread hatred...that's so much to ask?
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 About the Kurds and generally we must be very carefully because some sides are subjektive in their informations .... The best would be to sit with each other and to talk calm with a real will to help each other...
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 see what happens in syria, turkey wants to protect those people who are the victims of a psycho...it is rule of any religion and humanity thought to help people who are in need...dont you think so too? if you saw me dying, wouldnt you pity me and help me and bring to the hospital? that is because you are kind and you believe that this is the right thing to do, it may also the rule of a believe that you hold...
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 Hello bro! Thanks for your infos. I will response to you. They were very interesting! Yes this is the right attitude... For me it's the same if one believes in Yahwe/Christ/Allah/Krisna/Shiva/Brahman/Dharma of Buddha/Con fucis social systems/ the Dao(although the essence of Dao is different from a omnipotent Being) of Lao Ce , paganism , atheism , agnosticism , it's the same for me if someone believe in afterlive , in no -afterlive or in the cycle of rebirth..
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@12081985 Hello bro! Thanks for your infos. I will response to you. They were very interesting! Yes this is the right attitude... For me it's the same if one believes in Yahwe/Christ/Allah/Krisna/Shiva/Brahman/Dharma of Buddha/Con fucis social systems/ the Dao(although the essence of Dao is different from a omnipotent Being) of Lao Ce , paganism , atheism , agnosticism , it's the same for me if someone believe in afterlive , in no -afterlive or in the cycle of rebirth..
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
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@12081985 Hello bro! Thanks for your infos. I will response to you. They were very interesting! Yes this is the right attitude... For me it's the same if one believes in Yahwe/Christ/Allah/Krisna/Shiva/Brahman/Dharma of Buddha/Con fucis social systems/ the Dao(although the essence of Dao is different from a omnipotent Being) of Lao Ce , paganism , atheism , agnosticism , it's the same for me if someone believe in afterlive , in no -afterlive or in the cycle of rebirth..
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@12081985 Yes sadly some ultra-nationalistic people exist also in Greece and sadly exist some in every country... About Syria yes you 're right.... But I think a war is the last way... If we must fight a war than the UN must intervene, not to conquer Syria but to help the democracy and the freedom... but I know this is very difficaultto do in our modern world... The role of Turkey in Syria and with Israel is noble indeed, but my friend what with the Curds ?
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 please whats to do with the curds , why and what is there to be done with them ? please enlighten me ??
GGMacarthur 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 the kurds no the pkk are the one causing upstir that their war in 1980, they think they are responsible for whole kurdish nation...but it's not true, there are alot of kurds that are against them but they are also easily misunderstood and hated because let me say a example: a turkish happy family, a son is asked to fight for their land against kurdish terrorist...happy family lose their son in action...what do you think how average people will react?
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 they will hate the Kurds as a whole... The opposite is also true... Turkish army kills a Kurdish terrorist or a innocent kurdish boy .. his family wil hate the Turks as a whole .... man this is the weakness of us humans... we generalize if we are confronted with arger and sorrow
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@megasayajinsongoku99 the kurds no the pkk are the one causing upstir that their war in 1980, they think they are responsible for whole kurdish nation...but it's not true, there are alot of kurds that are against them but they are also easily misunderstood and hated because let me say a example: a turkish happy family, a son is asked to fight for their land against kurdish terrorist...happy family lose their son in action...what do you think how average people will react?
12081985 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 they will hate the terrorist origin...a kurdish terrorist, this happy family will be blinded in hate and revenge and will do foolish act like hating a whole nation that was responsible of their son's death...
10 years ago, kurds had no rights and freedom even the turkish muslims didnt have any rights...do you know how many people in turkey hate ataturk? he was a traitor....but they cant say it in public because they are afraid to be sentenced and tortured to death...
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 Wow , I didn't knew that they are Turks who hate Ataturk . I don't had comprehend this side of history. Indeed the AKP party and Erdogan are very good politicians... Specially Erdogan is as I think a very good and noble politician....
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 but until AK party came, they started to lose everthing and then turkey started to bloom and created a new democracy....there are still hardcore ataturk fans that doesnt wants that...but since this ak party came everthing has gone much better...but the only problem is the pkk that is giving the kurds bad name...kurds have alot of rights in turkey, they can speak kurdish, there is a school that are teached kurdish language even kurdish tv channel and music....
12081985 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 try to find out what that kurds (pkk that you refer to) wants...i think you will find it also unacceptable...I'm myself really peaceful, only thought that comes in my mind is "world peace" enjoying from difference culture, people, try to taste, feel it, love it, care it, no bias on what you see outer appearance of a person but what you see in them and their opinion...share it, accept, no hard feeling...this is what i really wants...cant we stop spreading hate?
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 I don't speak about the Kurdish terrorists and co... They are a shame for their culture .... I speak about the oppresion of the Kurds from the turkish politics (specialy earlier was it so , so far I been able to know) .. In my opinion the Turkish goverment must give to the Kurds more freedom, rights and democracy...
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 the turkish government is already giving alot of rights and freedom...but the problem is, the pkk wants lands of turkey that never was of theirs....and they are financed by isreal and usa...and second, like i said, they wants lands of turkey saying it was theirs, that's not true, because before the turks came it was the home of greeks and byzantium empire...so it was never of kurds...but hey, the kurds that dont feel freedom are the ones that are siding with pkk
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 I respect your opinion and your religion but sadly as you said you religion is shown as a retarted and hateful religion because of some ignorant blockheads without education... I like specially the Sufism in Islam.
Generally you said about the Ottoman Empire. You should know my friend that the Ottomans,despite of some positive sides they had, they were conquerors.... It's not good to conquer and to make wars .. peace and wellfare to all beings ....
megasayajinsongoku99 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 do you know why the ottomans qonquerred those countries? their aim was to return the peace...the greeks were fighting against the romanians, romanians fighting against italians, italians fighting against the greeks, persians were fighting against greeks, persians also was in war with arabs, the dutch were in war with belgium and with spain...an endless cycle...so the seljuks (later the ottomans) wanted to end that fight...so their goal was to qonquer any country...
12081985 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 look what the ottomans gave to the dutch people a ottoman flag on their boats and a necklage, if spain attack dutch ships, means trouble with ottomans, so it ended the war (see, Rather Turkish than Pope") and then there was 600 year peace in all religions in ottoman empire...but at last some group people just wanted to start war and create their own place and betrayed the sultans, by killing them and trying to find more companians to go against the ottomans...
12081985 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 see the arab leaders got tricked by the british, armenians, the russians, the greeks and bulgarians, they all betrayed the ottomans, it seems they didnt want peace anymore, if they didnt do that, then the war in middle eastern wouldnt happen, because the sultan's words are absolute, the christianity has the popes, the islam had the chaliphate, and sultan was the caliphate, he wouldnt allow any religion war...like that happened 600 years long, every person had equally rights
12081985 4 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 look here what a british commandant said "
Turks love reality and fairness. They were always fair but they met a lot of unfair things against them."
12081985 4 months ago
@12081985 Some Turks were very fair and good soliders , but sadly some were also more cruel .. The same takes effect for all nations/armies.you can not say it was for peace... you cannot solve problems with violence .. violence only brings more violence, look at the yanitscharies .. young guys which were kidnaped from the sultan to be a fanatic fighter for him.... the nonmuslim payed a tax to the muslims ... do you think its