Im just thinking that maybe he played that fast because he wanted to describe a very happy feast in the wedding? being too interpretative... anyways, if i am to play it, I would play it as lively as I can. After all, weddings should be all alive unless the vows are fake! hahahahaha XD kidding aside. Love this music.
Interesting comment... I do a a lot of arranging and often when I listen to the arrangement later the metronome marking are around 5% too fast for performance.
I would like to state the proposition for discussion that composers tend to play their own compositions at a tempo that is on the fast side and that their metronome markings are definitely on the fast side [or even the very fast side]. I am happy to support my proposition but would like to generate a discussion first!!
@gerardbedecarter I'm not sure I agree about the metronome markings being on the fast side, but I think you are right that most composers that I have heard play their own music much faster than most performers do. Maybe the pressure of the performance being thought to be definitive just because it's the composer playing causes nervous rushing.
@Iain0408 i thinks its more that they get abit bored of their own music having written it from scratch and probably played it a bizzilion time, so they get a little impatient
@thethreeamazingmen .... I'm sure this statement is true ...... Rachmaninoff, Medtner and perhaps others ??!! ... it was Griegs' 25the wedding anniversary, I believe!!
@MusicPredominates I'm deeply sorry. It was not my purpose to offend or hurt you in any way. I think you have made a very constructive comment. If everybody was as pure-minded as you there would be no wars. Once again, I am very sorry. Sorry. My mistake.
@evesmom He didn't. Wax cylinders could record a decent amount. It would be interesting to compare tuning, and see if the tempo results from the cylinder being played slightly faster than it should, resulting in a higher tempo.
Either that, or we might have to conclude that Grieg intended this piece to be played insanely fast. It'd be an interesting debate to have.
Later musicians certainly enriches the content and interpretation of his music. But it's always nice to get back to the composer to hear what he tried to say from the beginning.
The best way to clean this up is to get hold of syntheses of all the tones and extract only the touches from this performance. Then you would get a result exactly how it would be to sit in the same room as Edward while this was recorded. The most disturbing noise could easily be removed by a sharp stepping band pass filter, since the noise is outside the piece for the most part: past B5 and below A3. This is my result from a five min. study in a spectrum analyzer.
Wonderful! and it's amazing that a recording still exists! (Yes it is possible to reduce noise--feed it into Steinberg CLean or something equivalent--but you end up with spacey artefacts and lose the reality of an ancient wax cylinder. )
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Wow, that's rich. English is not my mother language, since I'm Norwegian and all. And alltogether, I think I'm doing a pretty good job so far as my English goes. And it's not much of a challenge to remove noiSe. It's the software which does all the work. Any idiot can create a noise profile and remove noise from any wave sound. Even if they're not educated in computer science. Which I btw, am ;)
You might be right, if the noise contains frequencies which the music require then the noise removal will remove more than what's wanted and alot of clicks will occur. Such a shame though since this recording is really fantastic :)
Man, can't somebody remove the noice? I think I'll perhaps take on the challenge. Shouldn't be that difficult, it's the same noice repeating over and over. Shouldn't be that hard to collect a noice profile.
Was this recorded on a piece of cellophane or a cellphone?
I still think it's too fast. I suspect it's been monkeyed around with by latter day engineers.
And what happened to the B-Section?
Oddly enough composers are not always the best interpreters of their own works. Prokofiev's recorded legacy proves that conclusively.
De Greef (a favorite of Grieg's apparently) conveyed the idea better than this. Rubinstein made a splendid recording of it. Leif Ove Andsnes is the man for the job today.
No. It was recorded in Paris in 1903. The turntable there had a wobble, and many recordings (including Grieg's) are slightly distorted in tone as a result.
However, no, nobody has tampered with this recording. You are hearing it at the tempo at which he played it. It's a common misconception that these recordings have been altered.
Most people of that day - including just about all composers (and I've heard very man) played at a much faster pace than today.
Why is it that every time one presents a composer recording, the "the composer isn't definitive" mantra comes out? If he plays it this way it's at least if not more than legitimate. Don't be constrained by the historically-determined conditioning of your ears.
Actually, he's playing this piece at a faster pace than what he normally would have played it at because he had to condense an approximately four minute song into two minutes.
He even cuts out the entire middle section. He's rushing because he has to not because he wants to. Arthur de Greef's recording is far more accurate.
I think that the recorded disc had a low memory space, so that Grieg had to play the piece faster and let the B-Section before the total recording capacity ran out.
In 1986 I lived in Norway. I visited Troldhaugen and in my best Norsk asked the docent if I could step behind the red rope and play this piece on Grieg's piano in the parlor. Amazingly, he let me! I sat down and played. When I finished up with the big chord a dozen Asian tourists were standing outside the door to the parlor applauding. I hadn't known they were listening! Great memory.
@thomandy Jeg skulle ha skrevet til deg for lenge siden da du skrev til meg! Ja, det var en av mine beste minner . Jeg er saa glad i norge, vet du, og savner det saa faelt! Du maa til Troldhaugen en dag.
@suzearl Oi, 1år siden jeg kommenterte :P .. Fortiden kommer tilbake :)
Ja, helt klart. Skal komme meg dit :) Grieg er en av mine favoritter og en stor inspirasjon både som person og som komponist mtp min egen satsning på komposisjon :)
@suzearl Well done you!!! these opportunities only pass our way once and all it takes is having the guts to ASK! I am sure Edvard was listening in and was as entranced as your "audience"!
@suzearl I had a simular experience with composer de Falla. Visited his home in Granada. The "tourleader" asked if someone of us played the piano. "I do !" I said and I played an own composition, inspired by de Falla. It was the piano were not only de Falla played on, but also Rubinstein, Ravel and Dukas when they visited de Falla. Great moment in my life ! The tourleader asked if it was a piece of de Falla,One of the most inspiring moments for me as a composer
The grammophone back then was a fairly new invention. The discs were about 2-5 inches and wore out, being 100+ years old. This is for those who say that Grieg leaving out some sections. It was intentional.
Modern recording techniques have advanced to the point where the noise floor is well over 100dB and here we have a recording where you can barely hear the music behind the noise and you think this is a great sound!!!
as I said... it's the authentic touch that brings the piece alive.. it's actually him playing! which of 2 says more... a color photograph of an ex-soldier at age of 75 or a picture of him taken during the war where you can see the pain and fear, and the yellow-ish color the photo has gotten since taken?
It is. Grieg was a noted pianist and could play his own pieces fairly well. Besides, why the hell would the audio quality be so bad (other than the fact that it's 105 years old)? To cover up someone else's playing and call it Grieg's?
Very interesting to hear Grieg himself. You know, this reminds me of the old silent movies that were played much to quickly years ago (I think they've adjusted the speed by now) and it might be the same for recording. There could have been a difference in the electrical Hz as well that contributed to the faster tempo. I had that happen when I transferred wire recordings of 1940s done in 60 Hz but we now use 50 Hz, I believe, so there was a difference in speed. Just my thoughts.
Grieg did a fair amount of acoustical recording for that time. Yes, I think he had to play faster to fit the limited recording time. But please be aware that there is an 1889 miserable sounding, damaged, cylinder of Brahms speaking (It has been questioned if it's really his voice.) and playing part of his G minor Hungarian Dance. (Yes, that is authentic.) There are various versions of this on YouTube.
i am so inspired!! the legend goes (this is me getting old style) that grieg was a FAB pianist... however, i am kinda dissapointed, that Liszt, one of griegs great inspirations, didnt live a little longer, then we might have a recording of some of his playing
probably right dag. is the pitch raised? my ear is lousy for such things. if it is then that is a sure sign the live recording is unaturally speeded up.
amazing. that is a valuable archive. he plays it so fast, i wonder what he would think of my much slower version lol. if only we could go back in time and talk to these people
This would be an awesome version if the rerecording didn't sound like trash. I don't how people could stand it back then. Anyhow this segment is the last third or so of the song, The revival after the slow part.
If you become accustomed to listening to historic recordings, your ear will slowly develop the ability to filter out the surface noise and you wont hear it as much.
What a treat to actually hear Grieg playing this composition, which was always a favorite of mine. His "To Spring" is another real delight, which I believe you also posted. Thanks for this historical treasure.
i have one thing to say, and it shows in this really old recording, which was clearly done on a really old piano :P greig, is such an underrated composer!
Didn't think they had recording capacity in 1903. It's feels a bit bizarre. We get to hear the very sounds created Mr "bon bons wrapped in snow" himself. Tomorrow afternoon it shall be a high definition television recording of jesus giving a sermon on the mount.
The sound quality or interpretation don't really make a mite of difference to my reaction - which is 'WOW!'; what an amazing thing that we can hear Grieg himself playing his music... (By the way, Grieg was actually considered a pretty good pianist.)
Is there a slight acceleration due to the recording technique itself? Difficult to tell. Grieg certainly plays it with a sense of excitement, grandeur. Like FlorestanEusebius, he seems to me a wonderfully lyrical player.
Seriously, though, Grieg only had 4 years to live and never was a virtuoso, so a certain stiffness and homespun clumsiness clings to parts of this performance. No less endearing because of that.
"A certain stiffness and homespun clumsiness", that's what I thought BEFORE I listened very carefully to these recordings of his lyrical pieces. My conclusion: a very poetic and brilliant pianist who served his own music very well by performing it.
Despite some errors and a fast tempo the texture, rhythm and phrasing here is very clear.
Is het niet zo dat de klank van de piano "vlakker" wordt als alle ruis wordt weggehaald, vanwege de boventonen? Bij opgepoetste historische opnames vond ik dit vaak teleurstellend klinken.
Thanks for putting this very early acoustical recording on YouTube. Because of the limited time of the disc/cylinder and primitive way of recording he was forced to make a major cut and couldn't play with many shades and dynamics but still it's great to hear him play!
Im just thinking that maybe he played that fast because he wanted to describe a very happy feast in the wedding? being too interpretative... anyways, if i am to play it, I would play it as lively as I can. After all, weddings should be all alive unless the vows are fake! hahahahaha XD kidding aside. Love this music.
darkangel10001 2 weeks ago
Hey. Has anyone noticed how Albert Einstein looks like Edvard Grieg?
truBador2 1 month ago
HUGE DISLIKE
Zuunic97 1 month ago
@Zuunic97 hahhahahaaahahhahhahahhahahhhahahahhahahahahahhha!!
iTzAwesomeeez 1 month ago
qué lástima que pongan la grabación de este niño insulso como respuesta a la grabación de Gireg :S
a00998522 1 month ago
Bad sound :3
SuperHoovyPootis 2 months ago
@SuperHoovyPootis What do you expect? The man died in 1907! No wonder he sounds a bit rusty. HAHA!
kruslakskli 3 weeks ago
What happed to the rest?
grooveman69 2 months ago
The 1957 film "pied piper of hameilin" made good artistic use of this tune.
dynagravitomagnetic 2 months ago
Interesting comment... I do a a lot of arranging and often when I listen to the arrangement later the metronome marking are around 5% too fast for performance.
cjwarcher 2 months ago
I would like to state the proposition for discussion that composers tend to play their own compositions at a tempo that is on the fast side and that their metronome markings are definitely on the fast side [or even the very fast side]. I am happy to support my proposition but would like to generate a discussion first!!
gerardbedecarter 2 months ago
@gerardbedecarter I'm not sure I agree about the metronome markings being on the fast side, but I think you are right that most composers that I have heard play their own music much faster than most performers do. Maybe the pressure of the performance being thought to be definitive just because it's the composer playing causes nervous rushing.
Iain0408 1 month ago
@Iain0408 i thinks its more that they get abit bored of their own music having written it from scratch and probably played it a bizzilion time, so they get a little impatient
thethreeamazingmen 3 weeks ago
@thethreeamazingmen .... I'm sure this statement is true ...... Rachmaninoff, Medtner and perhaps others ??!! ... it was Griegs' 25the wedding anniversary, I believe!!
gerardbedecarter 6 days ago
stunning!
FranzLisztFerentz 3 months ago
His tempo amazes me!!! WOW....Sire Grieg......You did a wonderful job!!! :)
Kavishwa1 5 months ago
@Kavishwa1 Old recordings tend to fuck up the tempo. I think he played it a bit slower. But I totally agree, wonderfully played.
RockNRollFellow 5 months ago
@RockNRollFellow : Why must you condescend into the use of a four-letter word ? Hardly fair of you !
MusicPredominates 5 months ago
@MusicPredominates I'm deeply sorry. It was not my purpose to offend or hurt you in any way. I think you have made a very constructive comment. If everybody was as pure-minded as you there would be no wars. Once again, I am very sorry. Sorry. My mistake.
RockNRollFellow 5 months ago
@RockNRollFellow
Oh come on..we're all adults here.
idovideostcloudmn 5 months ago
I can't believe I'm listening to a 108 years old audio recording! Mind-blowing!
Maxmuetze 6 months ago 3
its about 160 bpm
mattpva777 6 months ago
Interesting...the pitch seems to be alright. He really did play it that fast.
lrkleine 7 months ago
I study this these days and now I have the right tempo, thank you !
TempodiPiano 9 months ago
Wonder if tempo was driven by the fact that he had to fit it into two minutes.
evesmom 11 months ago
@evesmom He didn't. Wax cylinders could record a decent amount. It would be interesting to compare tuning, and see if the tempo results from the cylinder being played slightly faster than it should, resulting in a higher tempo.
Either that, or we might have to conclude that Grieg intended this piece to be played insanely fast. It'd be an interesting debate to have.
QuietReckoning 10 months ago
@QuietReckoning It is not a cylinder. These were recorded on disks for Pathe in Paris.
cambridgeMandarin 6 months ago
I wish he recorded the other movement, this alone is awesome!
ultrafishmaniac 11 months ago
i can barely hear this! and what kind of studio was this song recorded?!
kymcqueen95 1 year ago
@kymcqueen95 well.. consdiering it was recorded some time around 1903 I'm not sure the word "studio" was invented...
sp4zzer 11 months ago
@kymcqueen95 Most likely this is a recording made in 1903 for for the G&T company in Paris.
sp4zzer 11 months ago
Wonderful. It is a pastiche of dance music, and should be played rather fast..
alinnman 1 year ago
can barely hear this.
ThePruckner 1 year ago
Did he play this fast, or is the sound speed up like you see in old movies?
XxMrDudexX 1 year ago
@XxMrDudexX
No this is the right tempo. If it was speeded it would render a higher pitch but this sounds exactly in D major..
alinnman 1 year ago
wahaha?!!! man that is so rappin fast. crazy. how am i ever going 2 play this tempo?
mysterychemistry 1 year ago
was he playing this himself?
svensuperman789 1 year ago
damn its so fast
svensuperman789 1 year ago
BTW, Grieg kind of looks like Einstein from this picture.
galaxion2 1 year ago 6
don't know why like half the piece is missing here?
galaxion2 1 year ago
@galaxion2
i'd say he didnt have time 2 play it, coz he was in such a hurry lol
mysterychemistry 1 year ago
fantastic!
KatanMusic 1 year ago
Is the middle part missing?
wawa314159 1 year ago
It's too fast. Play it slower like everyone else.
horror1057 1 year ago
@horror1057 I don't think Grieg will ever read your comment :P It's an original gramophone recording.
TemperaMagenta 1 year ago
@horror1057 Uhhh......was that supposed to be a joke? He wrote it, for pete's sake. "Everyone else" plays it too slow, apparently.
musicallyspeakings88 1 year ago 2
@musicallyspeakings88 maybe horror1057 didn't know it was Grieg himself playing
svensuperman789 1 year ago
@horror1057 IDIOT!!!! This is Edvard Grieg playing hahaha if someone can perfect it, then it is he.
oterdverg 1 year ago
Later musicians certainly enriches the content and interpretation of his music. But it's always nice to get back to the composer to hear what he tried to say from the beginning.
leighshen 1 year ago
The composer himself!
paopaomanalansan 1 year ago
the the middle missing? or is it just me?
poofypeach 1 year ago
Oioi, a lot of wrong notes in here! :-)
bansuri69 2 years ago
The best way to clean this up is to get hold of syntheses of all the tones and extract only the touches from this performance. Then you would get a result exactly how it would be to sit in the same room as Edward while this was recorded. The most disturbing noise could easily be removed by a sharp stepping band pass filter, since the noise is outside the piece for the most part: past B5 and below A3. This is my result from a five min. study in a spectrum analyzer.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
he plays it so fast! but a beautiful piece - and what a honky tonk piano!
abipabiapple 2 years ago
@abipabiapple lol honky tonk, that made me laugh. it's like that coz its played on a gramophone
svensuperman789 1 year ago
Beautiful!!
den eneste som kan komme i nærheten er Leif Ove Andsnes. Eneste han som klarer det.
valllhalla 2 years ago
Wonderful! and it's amazing that a recording still exists! (Yes it is possible to reduce noise--feed it into Steinberg CLean or something equivalent--but you end up with spacey artefacts and lose the reality of an ancient wax cylinder. )
flyingtadpole 2 years ago
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Wow, that's rich. English is not my mother language, since I'm Norwegian and all. And alltogether, I think I'm doing a pretty good job so far as my English goes. And it's not much of a challenge to remove noiSe. It's the software which does all the work. Any idiot can create a noise profile and remove noise from any wave sound. Even if they're not educated in computer science. Which I btw, am ;)
MrKennyBones 2 years ago
It's broadband noise. If you trie to remove it the hole recording will end up useless.
hamaudio 2 years ago 2
You might be right, if the noise contains frequencies which the music require then the noise removal will remove more than what's wanted and alot of clicks will occur. Such a shame though since this recording is really fantastic :)
MrKennyBones 2 years ago 2
Man, can't somebody remove the noice? I think I'll perhaps take on the challenge. Shouldn't be that difficult, it's the same noice repeating over and over. Shouldn't be that hard to collect a noice profile.
MrKennyBones 2 years ago
How are you -possibly- going to take on that challenge when you can't even spell "noise"?
sch131 2 years ago 4
lol sch131
that made my day
ihrtmusic12334 2 years ago
Simpel: wun rekwyers kompewta nolij whereaz the uther rekwyers speling skil. U so smart, y dont u tayk on the chalinj?
Lennythewinner 2 years ago
I like his playing nd I think pianist should try and play his music more like this. It`s exciting and fresh even thow it is more than 100 years old.
Emil54 2 years ago
pianists aren't supposed to play it as they heard it, that's what sheet music is for, so you can count out the tempo as it was written.
mahler151 2 years ago
I love this song...it's going to be my bridal march for my wedding in December :) yay Norwegians!
elenawen 2 years ago
its funny , He looks like A.Einstein :-P
SirJohnR 2 years ago 11
ha...i agree.
lingtih 2 years ago
@SirJohnR both of which are geniuses :P
Rlaw2222 2 years ago
@SirJohnR You mean Einstein looks like him:)
kruslakskli 3 weeks ago 3
Fascinating.
Troybeallad 2 years ago
Was this recorded on a piece of cellophane or a cellphone?
I still think it's too fast. I suspect it's been monkeyed around with by latter day engineers.
And what happened to the B-Section?
Oddly enough composers are not always the best interpreters of their own works. Prokofiev's recorded legacy proves that conclusively.
De Greef (a favorite of Grieg's apparently) conveyed the idea better than this. Rubinstein made a splendid recording of it. Leif Ove Andsnes is the man for the job today.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
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Pischnaholic 2 years ago
No. It was recorded in Paris in 1903. The turntable there had a wobble, and many recordings (including Grieg's) are slightly distorted in tone as a result.
However, no, nobody has tampered with this recording. You are hearing it at the tempo at which he played it. It's a common misconception that these recordings have been altered.
Most people of that day - including just about all composers (and I've heard very man) played at a much faster pace than today.
78rpmpianist 2 years ago 9
Why is it that every time one presents a composer recording, the "the composer isn't definitive" mantra comes out? If he plays it this way it's at least if not more than legitimate. Don't be constrained by the historically-determined conditioning of your ears.
78rpmpianist 2 years ago 2
Actually, he's playing this piece at a faster pace than what he normally would have played it at because he had to condense an approximately four minute song into two minutes.
He even cuts out the entire middle section. He's rushing because he has to not because he wants to. Arthur de Greef's recording is far more accurate.
evifnoskcaj 2 years ago 3
I think that the recorded disc had a low memory space, so that Grieg had to play the piece faster and let the B-Section before the total recording capacity ran out.
09Benavides 2 years ago
Your parents used a piece of cellophane - didnt work.
Shumeshi 2 years ago
wow! I've heard so many interpretations much slower than Grieg's tempo. This is a breath of fresh air to hear it played this way.
irferf 2 years ago 5
i agree, he was a genius
JoJoKenn94 2 years ago
I had no idea such recording exists :)
GerbilEssences 2 years ago
oh yeah, there are plenty.
MillyProductions 2 years ago
In 1986 I lived in Norway. I visited Troldhaugen and in my best Norsk asked the docent if I could step behind the red rope and play this piece on Grieg's piano in the parlor. Amazingly, he let me! I sat down and played. When I finished up with the big chord a dozen Asian tourists were standing outside the door to the parlor applauding. I hadn't known they were listening! Great memory.
suzearl 2 years ago 87
Hi :) Eller hei ;)
Sounds like a Great memory - Im norwegian and havnt visited troldhaugen yet :)
Tnx for sharing the nice story :)
thomandy 2 years ago
@thomandy Jeg skulle ha skrevet til deg for lenge siden da du skrev til meg! Ja, det var en av mine beste minner . Jeg er saa glad i norge, vet du, og savner det saa faelt! Du maa til Troldhaugen en dag.
Takk!
Ha det!
suzearl 1 year ago
@suzearl Oi, 1år siden jeg kommenterte :P .. Fortiden kommer tilbake :)
Ja, helt klart. Skal komme meg dit :) Grieg er en av mine favoritter og en stor inspirasjon både som person og som komponist mtp min egen satsning på komposisjon :)
thomandy 1 year ago
that's incredible, i wish i could do that on chopin's piano.
MillyProductions 2 years ago 2
the tune brings happiness to people's heart
pigolet2178 2 years ago 2
it really does, first time i heard it i fell in love.
MillyProductions 2 years ago 3
@suzearl Well done you!!! these opportunities only pass our way once and all it takes is having the guts to ASK! I am sure Edvard was listening in and was as entranced as your "audience"!
billyconnearly 1 year ago
@suzearl I had a simular experience with composer de Falla. Visited his home in Granada. The "tourleader" asked if someone of us played the piano. "I do !" I said and I played an own composition, inspired by de Falla. It was the piano were not only de Falla played on, but also Rubinstein, Ravel and Dukas when they visited de Falla. Great moment in my life ! The tourleader asked if it was a piece of de Falla,One of the most inspiring moments for me as a composer
denico1000 6 months ago 2
What a pleasure to hear Edvard Grieg,
the master's recording of Wedding Day
from an old record done in 1903! So glad
the recording has survived.
whizkid7562 2 years ago
i absolutely love this song! im so glad i found it
TomventUK 3 years ago
Too bad they didn't have enough space so he record the full piece! I wish I could hear him interpret all of the pieces he composed.
Wonderful playing Grieg!
Erunno89 3 years ago
is there a cd out with the recordings of him playing on it
beeteep60 3 years ago
is this very hard?
lindiana628 3 years ago
YES.
luigimaster25 3 years ago
Depending on your skill, it's either easy or impossible.
CleverDjembe 3 years ago
i die for this piece....played by him of course
silviemusik 3 years ago
The grammophone back then was a fairly new invention. The discs were about 2-5 inches and wore out, being 100+ years old. This is for those who say that Grieg leaving out some sections. It was intentional.
aewanko300 3 years ago
love the sound, so friggin' authentic!!!!
ncglock 3 years ago 27
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You "love" the sound. Are you kidding me!
Modern recording techniques have advanced to the point where the noise floor is well over 100dB and here we have a recording where you can barely hear the music behind the noise and you think this is a great sound!!!
What are you, mad?
CleverDjembe 3 years ago
as I said... it's the authentic touch that brings the piece alive.. it's actually him playing! which of 2 says more... a color photograph of an ex-soldier at age of 75 or a picture of him taken during the war where you can see the pain and fear, and the yellow-ish color the photo has gotten since taken?
ncglock 3 years ago 5
Beautifully stated-- And what a thrill it is indeed to hear Grieg playing his own work!!
ajabrams 3 years ago
Thank you :-)
I can listen to this over and over again...
ncglock 3 years ago
the sounds does add something to it. something that is not there with prokofiev's clean recordings.
MillyProductions 3 years ago
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I doubt this was actually Grieg.
humbertsin1994 3 years ago
It is. Grieg was a noted pianist and could play his own pieces fairly well. Besides, why the hell would the audio quality be so bad (other than the fact that it's 105 years old)? To cover up someone else's playing and call it Grieg's?
ThaSchwab 3 years ago 4
they left out the quiet part! too bad, it was really pretty. I learned this song, but I could never play it as fast as that.
carmenaudrey 3 years ago 2
Very interesting to hear Grieg himself. You know, this reminds me of the old silent movies that were played much to quickly years ago (I think they've adjusted the speed by now) and it might be the same for recording. There could have been a difference in the electrical Hz as well that contributed to the faster tempo. I had that happen when I transferred wire recordings of 1940s done in 60 Hz but we now use 50 Hz, I believe, so there was a difference in speed. Just my thoughts.
goldie0800 3 years ago 5
there is a part missing...!!! the slow part!!
vafavafa 3 years ago 2
Uh this skips through about 1/2 the piece. Where is the "wedding" part?? Hmmm...
hillsidegardenermn 3 years ago 3
he didn't have time to play it. the recording time wasn't very long, so this is as much as he could fit.
bicsc7 3 years ago
Grieg did a fair amount of acoustical recording for that time. Yes, I think he had to play faster to fit the limited recording time. But please be aware that there is an 1889 miserable sounding, damaged, cylinder of Brahms speaking (It has been questioned if it's really his voice.) and playing part of his G minor Hungarian Dance. (Yes, that is authentic.) There are various versions of this on YouTube.
Eddy438 3 years ago 3
he could play his piano concerto in A minor!
gershwindoyle 3 years ago
i am so inspired!! the legend goes (this is me getting old style) that grieg was a FAB pianist... however, i am kinda dissapointed, that Liszt, one of griegs great inspirations, didnt live a little longer, then we might have a recording of some of his playing
callanmchugh 3 years ago
great job putting it on utube, i look for actual recordings of the composer playing pieces
yashil17 3 years ago
probably right dag. is the pitch raised? my ear is lousy for such things. if it is then that is a sure sign the live recording is unaturally speeded up.
englishplayer40 3 years ago
Yes, the pitch is a little bit higher.
Moeller94 2 years ago
is this really grig ?
manishbabu 3 years ago
um u mispelled his name dude
carmenaudrey 3 years ago
His name is spelled "Grieg."
ThaSchwab 3 years ago 2
<<if only we could go back in time and talk to
<<these people
absolutely !!!
unpeumoinsvite 3 years ago 8
amazing. that is a valuable archive. he plays it so fast, i wonder what he would think of my much slower version lol. if only we could go back in time and talk to these people
englishplayer40 3 years ago 3
I think these phonograph things speed it up, in real life he isnt playing it fast.
dageek2 3 years ago
This is my favorite light sounding piano piece!
ktheblenderuser 3 years ago
This would be an awesome version if the rerecording didn't sound like trash. I don't how people could stand it back then. Anyhow this segment is the last third or so of the song, The revival after the slow part.
ratopal 4 years ago
If you become accustomed to listening to historic recordings, your ear will slowly develop the ability to filter out the surface noise and you wont hear it as much.
palcsi 3 years ago 2
Sort of like asking how the Greeks put up with all those ruins. Much of the sound issues come from age.....
svorg 3 years ago
It's beautiful... :)
olaQls 4 years ago 2
This is great to hear! Thank you for posting this!
KawhackitaRag 4 years ago
wow, this is much faster than most people play it, including myself....but awesome to hear the composer play it.
PhilG380 4 years ago
i am from norway=) edvard grieg is good i have been in his house before=)
norwayrock1 4 years ago 3
love the ending! =)
6laupn 4 years ago
What a treat to actually hear Grieg playing this composition, which was always a favorite of mine. His "To Spring" is another real delight, which I believe you also posted. Thanks for this historical treasure.
gmmix 4 years ago 2
he had the ability to play beethovens piano concerto no 3 in C minor
gershwindoyle 4 years ago
i have one thing to say, and it shows in this really old recording, which was clearly done on a really old piano :P greig, is such an underrated composer!
frliszt 4 years ago
Didn't think they had recording capacity in 1903. It's feels a bit bizarre. We get to hear the very sounds created Mr "bon bons wrapped in snow" himself. Tomorrow afternoon it shall be a high definition television recording of jesus giving a sermon on the mount.
Alessandro1985 4 years ago
The only difference being that Grieg definitely composed what we hear while noone can be sure that Jesus held the Sermon on the Mount.
Mahler1912 4 years ago
The sound quality or interpretation don't really make a mite of difference to my reaction - which is 'WOW!'; what an amazing thing that we can hear Grieg himself playing his music... (By the way, Grieg was actually considered a pretty good pianist.)
Mimameior 4 years ago
yup this the original speed
simplypiano 4 years ago
yeah, the good old times...;-)
sviatoslavberezovsky 4 years ago
its impossible to be him..thats so unbelivable he was living before 100 years ?? !!!!!!!!!!
elito92 4 years ago
Edvard Grieg died 1907...
DrawAmatour 4 years ago
my favorite composer !
big thanx!
maciush 4 years ago 2
Is there a slight acceleration due to the recording technique itself? Difficult to tell. Grieg certainly plays it with a sense of excitement, grandeur. Like FlorestanEusebius, he seems to me a wonderfully lyrical player.
BarNuun 4 years ago
always good to hear one of my favorites playing. thanks for posting :)
bananaboom21 4 years ago
This "wedding" happened 104 years ago.
Even the children must be dead by now. ;)
Seriously, though, Grieg only had 4 years to live and never was a virtuoso, so a certain stiffness and homespun clumsiness clings to parts of this performance. No less endearing because of that.
nextren 4 years ago
"A certain stiffness and homespun clumsiness", that's what I thought BEFORE I listened very carefully to these recordings of his lyrical pieces. My conclusion: a very poetic and brilliant pianist who served his own music very well by performing it.
Despite some errors and a fast tempo the texture, rhythm and phrasing here is very clear.
FlorestanEusebius 4 years ago
Is het niet zo dat de klank van de piano "vlakker" wordt als alle ruis wordt weggehaald, vanwege de boventonen? Bij opgepoetste historische opnames vond ik dit vaak teleurstellend klinken.
Een groet uit Den Haag, FE.
FlorestanEusebius 4 years ago
Thanks for putting this very early acoustical recording on YouTube. Because of the limited time of the disc/cylinder and primitive way of recording he was forced to make a major cut and couldn't play with many shades and dynamics but still it's great to hear him play!
FlorestanEusebius 4 years ago
yes as you said, its a pitty we can not hear the middle part! is so beautiful... any way to hear himself playing is a dimond.
efraingonzalez 4 years ago
you gotta be kdding me....grieg on record? i am speechless to describe what i am hearing!
luganskymichelangeli 4 years ago 5