a lot of them tend to change their complains if one does not stick. if population genocide does not work, they like to claim that it was actually cultural genocide because the government is bringing in the hans to take away their jobs and the central government only supports mandarin. come on people, the earth does not belong to one group of people exclusively, what is wrong with allowing other people to live in tibet. this kind of protectionism is pure bs
@eastern2western - The world does not belong to China, I think you ought to figure out first what the word "protectionism" is and not to use in wrong context. Tibetans are not Chinese, get it in your small brain.
How did you when feel when Western world bullied China and forced to import opium ? When everywhere was written "Not for Chinese and Dogs" ? How did your feel about Japan ?
@456inthemix I never said any country belongs to any country.. my major critique of this so call tibetan-freedom movement is that they love to make up shit on the run and hoping something to stick. at the end, every thing would just slide of like shit.
I cannot post a link to the original articles since youtube keep rejecting any post with url. Xucks.
Your need to search amazon for the book "Contemporary Tibet: Politics, Development, and Society in a Disputed Region" for Barry Sautman's research work. Search "Case Western Reserve's Center for Research on Tibet" for Goldstein et al's work yourself.
Barry Sautman also compared the claims made by Iraqi emigre asserting existence of WMD in Iraq (US started the Iraqi war based mainly on these intelligence) to those claims made by Tibetan emigre - both are untrustworthy and used mainly to support their hidden political agenda.
According to Barry Sautman of Columbia University and Goldstein et al of Case Western Researve's Center for Research on Tibet, there is no evidence to support genocide of any kind in Tibet.
In addition, they also discovered many claims of 'torture' or 'mistreatment' made by Tibetan refugees contradict to what they observed in field study in China (Goldstein did field study in China himself).
Foul language will not be tolerated here. One is entitled to his or her opinion. However, that does not imply that one may insult others for their conviction or opinion. paulsomething is banned for that very reason. Again, your opinion will be appreciated provided it is not offensive to a person or a group of persons. Any comment in breach of this basic rule will be removed immediately!
"Somehow, if something comes along and presents an alternative view based on reason and proofs, then it is directly branded as propaganda. While pointless rubbish based on emotion and unsubstantiated sources is deemed as truth."
So of course you would support investigation and discourse regarding the alleged "six million" in Germany. Is it only genocide if the victims are a certain "special" race?
Sorry, I assumed you had at least finished high school. A very polished video and (what I thought) straight forward rhetoric fooled me, apparently.
I would normally apologize for watering down a question that to some could be offensive. I did so in respect for your effort in creating the video and discussion of same. Clearly from your verbal assaults, respect isn't your strong suit.
Are you selective in applying your "standards" for proof of genocide?
Well, logic dictates that the ability to formulate a question which can be understood by a fellow man is a sign of intelligence. Somehow, one who failed to formulate a question is accusing the counter party of stupidity, hmmm...above all, the accusation runs even further to include allegation of disrespect and aggression. Wow, NotOurFight your words really speak volumes!
The answer to your question = NO. Is that clear enough for you? Unlike you, I don't beat around the bushes.
Propaganda truly comes in all forms. Thank you for opening my eyes even more to the world of lies that we live in today. I've seen the documentation proving this massacre. Travelling outside of your computer station would show you the same. Get out there, see it for yourself, talk the people who have lived through this ordeal for yourself, then take the time to put together a youtube slide show.
The documentation I obtained is in the open domain and available for all to see. From it I only see how the numbers stood and how people like to distort for their convenience.
If u, origin0balance, can produce ANY proves, then who is stopping u to show it! Just show it!
So, origin0balance, ur source is the people who has lived through this ordeal.... Very neutral source with totally unbiased views and information!
If the CCP is that cruel and evil, then who would let witnesses live and tell their story? If those people fled to the West and asked for asylum, would they say China is great and Tibet is wonderful? What then justifies their status? R u really that naive or just pretend to be cute?
Somehow, if something comes along and presents an alternative view based on reason and proofs, then it is directly branded as propaganda. While pointless rubbish based on emotion and unsubstantiated sources is deemed as truth.
a lot of them tend to change their complains if one does not stick. if population genocide does not work, they like to claim that it was actually cultural genocide because the government is bringing in the hans to take away their jobs and the central government only supports mandarin. come on people, the earth does not belong to one group of people exclusively, what is wrong with allowing other people to live in tibet. this kind of protectionism is pure bs
eastern2western 1 year ago
@eastern2western - The world does not belong to China, I think you ought to figure out first what the word "protectionism" is and not to use in wrong context. Tibetans are not Chinese, get it in your small brain.
How did you when feel when Western world bullied China and forced to import opium ? When everywhere was written "Not for Chinese and Dogs" ? How did your feel about Japan ?
456inthemix 8 months ago
@456inthemix I never said any country belongs to any country.. my major critique of this so call tibetan-freedom movement is that they love to make up shit on the run and hoping something to stick. at the end, every thing would just slide of like shit.
eastern2western 8 months ago
this video is good, its important to state the points, but the end of your video proves you are an ignorent jack ass.
oxSaraLynnxo 1 year ago
@oxSaraLynnxo
Thank you very much for your thoughts. But I believe it is the crazy that views the world has gone mad. Especially religious zealots.....
weissman2000 1 year ago
I cannot post a link to the original articles since youtube keep rejecting any post with url. Xucks.
Your need to search amazon for the book "Contemporary Tibet: Politics, Development, and Society in a Disputed Region" for Barry Sautman's research work. Search "Case Western Reserve's Center for Research on Tibet" for Goldstein et al's work yourself.
yottky 3 years ago
Thanx, yottky, I will!
weissman2000 3 years ago
Barry Sautman also compared the claims made by Iraqi emigre asserting existence of WMD in Iraq (US started the Iraqi war based mainly on these intelligence) to those claims made by Tibetan emigre - both are untrustworthy and used mainly to support their hidden political agenda.
yottky 3 years ago 3
According to Barry Sautman of Columbia University and Goldstein et al of Case Western Researve's Center for Research on Tibet, there is no evidence to support genocide of any kind in Tibet.
In addition, they also discovered many claims of 'torture' or 'mistreatment' made by Tibetan refugees contradict to what they observed in field study in China (Goldstein did field study in China himself).
yottky 3 years ago 6
Foul language will not be tolerated here. One is entitled to his or her opinion. However, that does not imply that one may insult others for their conviction or opinion. paulsomething is banned for that very reason. Again, your opinion will be appreciated provided it is not offensive to a person or a group of persons. Any comment in breach of this basic rule will be removed immediately!
weissman2000 3 years ago
"Somehow, if something comes along and presents an alternative view based on reason and proofs, then it is directly branded as propaganda. While pointless rubbish based on emotion and unsubstantiated sources is deemed as truth."
So of course you would support investigation and discourse regarding the alleged "six million" in Germany. Is it only genocide if the victims are a certain "special" race?
NotOurFight 3 years ago 3
Don't get your point. NotOurFight, try to formulate your question in normal English please. Unlike you, I haven't developed telepathy yet!
weissman2000 3 years ago
Sorry, I assumed you had at least finished high school. A very polished video and (what I thought) straight forward rhetoric fooled me, apparently.
I would normally apologize for watering down a question that to some could be offensive. I did so in respect for your effort in creating the video and discussion of same. Clearly from your verbal assaults, respect isn't your strong suit.
Are you selective in applying your "standards" for proof of genocide?
NotOurFight 3 years ago 3
Well, logic dictates that the ability to formulate a question which can be understood by a fellow man is a sign of intelligence. Somehow, one who failed to formulate a question is accusing the counter party of stupidity, hmmm...above all, the accusation runs even further to include allegation of disrespect and aggression. Wow, NotOurFight your words really speak volumes!
The answer to your question = NO. Is that clear enough for you? Unlike you, I don't beat around the bushes.
weissman2000 3 years ago
All is true.Thanks. All the western are cheated by their media.
520harry 3 years ago
Propaganda truly comes in all forms. Thank you for opening my eyes even more to the world of lies that we live in today. I've seen the documentation proving this massacre. Travelling outside of your computer station would show you the same. Get out there, see it for yourself, talk the people who have lived through this ordeal for yourself, then take the time to put together a youtube slide show.
origin0balance 3 years ago
Really, please do show it!
The documentation I obtained is in the open domain and available for all to see. From it I only see how the numbers stood and how people like to distort for their convenience.
If u, origin0balance, can produce ANY proves, then who is stopping u to show it! Just show it!
Evidence talks, BS walks!
weissman2000 3 years ago
So, origin0balance, ur source is the people who has lived through this ordeal.... Very neutral source with totally unbiased views and information!
If the CCP is that cruel and evil, then who would let witnesses live and tell their story? If those people fled to the West and asked for asylum, would they say China is great and Tibet is wonderful? What then justifies their status? R u really that naive or just pretend to be cute?
weissman2000 3 years ago
Somehow, if something comes along and presents an alternative view based on reason and proofs, then it is directly branded as propaganda. While pointless rubbish based on emotion and unsubstantiated sources is deemed as truth.
How PATHETIC!
weissman2000 3 years ago