I was a searching girl who freely availed myself to fellowship meetings, while I am no longer involved, 90% of what you have seen and heard isn't true. it just isn't. The music you see is contrived, too thought out and God is not in it. That's not the way it was. There was heart, giving, and care, it may not have been a perfect performance, as you see above, we lived what we believed, God overlooks imperfection when you walk in love.
It was bad enough being a member of this cult with their greater devotion to the books of Dr. Wierville than to scripture. So glad I spent more time reading the Bible and NOT buying any of his re-interpretations. That made it easier to see where they veered from truth, and now I find it saved me from this further development. God is good. This performance isn't.
Leviticus 3:11 "And so God said to the Israelites: and thou shalt form music groups with local PTA members, and thou shalt create the most unoriginal and trite music 'neath the heavens. And thou shalt include the words "His, God, Love, Christ, and Lord" in every single line." So it was written, and so shall it be. Praise the lord!
Dr. Wierwille love Larence Welk and it shows. My grandmother use to force me watch Larence Welk when I wanted to watch Walt Disney, she said it was good for me, I'm still scarred today because of it. (really now that I'm old I like to watch LW. and remenese about being a kid.)
Danafortcollins: if Jesus Christ was not God then how did he have the authority to forgive sins? Why does something have to make sense to us to be true? If a heliocentric universe doesn't make sense to me can I just say it doesn't exist and I can be right?
the followers of jesus also have the power to forgive sins. jesus said "he who believes in Me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do". so jesus believers can forgive sins and do greater works than jesus. god can't die. jesus died. god can't be seen. jesus was seen. the evidence is clear- jesus was NOT god.
Hey tizer67, my name is Dana. To answer your question, no, Jesus christ is not God. You simply cannot throw out the mountain of clear verses and cling to the couple of (seemingly) unclear verses. Here are some examples: I Tim. 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus . John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time. (Jesus was seen by thousands) Mk14:36,Heb14:15,James1;13,John5:30. If you want the truth, I`ll show you where to look. God bless you, Dana
Oh fuck me! I thought the renewed mind was funny! HAHAHAHHA!!! Now I know where losers go after high school (that is unless they go the route of getting fatter and uglier and becoming gay / lesbian cuz that's all they can get). Wish that asshole had done some rap dances again though. Once again christians pwn themselves by just being themselves.
there hearts are in the right place... but just feel like stating and letting everyone know this isn't how most christians are... tacky, ridiculously quaint and extremely outdated... don't let this clip represent the whole of christendom... it really isn't even about a religion though... its about a personal relationship with Christ... bottom line..... but this vid is hilarious ha
You guys...just let people be. If you don't want to be involved in this goup, then don't. But there's no good reason for anyone to be hostile. Zealots or not, they're still people and most of them are probably just trying to do the "right" thing, whether that's the reality of it or not. Just leave them alone and let them do what they do.
The Way International is not a CULT and the ppl definitely don't speak in code. Have you experienced this on your own? What are the rules? To be exact there are no rules. I'm going to give you the same advice I gave derekworth, Please don't rant on about something you know nothing about.
I think Lawrence Welk choreographed this number. And by the way. The trinity never made sense to me either and I do believe that Jesus is the Lord and Savior. And by the double way, Jews don't believe in the trinity either. Does that mean they are in a cult?
Hi nyxie777, you rock! The trinity never made sense to me either. Come to find out it`s a doctrine that was added 300 years after J. C. The word trinity does not even appear in the bible.The bible is VERY clear. Examples: 1Tim.2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus.Luke18:18&19Jesus said why callest thou me good?None is good, save one, that is God. If you want the truth, I`ll show you where to look. God bless you, Dana
I had a strong faith in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit until I saw this dance number. Now my faith is wavering, and I need to go to confession so I can get this nightmare out of my mind.
These aren't Christians. Not in the sense of what is Biblical Christianity anyway.
This is a splinter group off of The Jehovah's Witnesses, which is a cult. Regardless of whether you believe in any faith or not, the majority of the Christian world doesn't accept either of these groups as "Christian". Mormons (Latter Day Saints) are viewed the same way.
They've latched on to Christianity in name, but their doctrines are pretty out there in relation to Biblical Christianity.
this "group" has nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses. It was started in Ohio by Rev Weirwille, and is based on christian beliefs. please, please, read up before saying crap
The problem Christians have with The Way and Weirwille might have something to do with books written by Weirwille like, "Jesus Christ is not God." Look it up. The Way is very much not Christian.
Look it up? I use to be a member. I left for my own reasons. I said it is based not it is, please read more carefully. and dont refference books without reading them.
We've all heard the saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover". This book is very accurate. Jesus Christ is not God he is the son of God. I agree with redfury0156, you need to do your research before you begin ranting on about something you have no clue about.
@derekworth Since when is "Jesus being God" Christian? What if there were 58 verses that called him the "son of God" and NONE, NONE NONE calling him "God the Son"? (Bible facts don't lie)
@granolajoe43 To answer your question let me ask you a question. Why was the Church persecuted by Saul in the first place? The early church came under attack for what? Acts 9:14 answers this for us all. Because they -The early church called upon Jesus -they were persecuted for calling upon his name. The meaning of "Calling upon His Name" was an act of Worship towards Jesus Christ -it means to Invoke, Adore, and Worship that is Jesus Christ. Thayers Greek English Lexicon pg. 239.
@granolajoe43 Correct Bible facts do NOT lie. But of understanding of Bible facts can lead us into self -deception and we then lie to our ownselves. Now the term "The Son of God" means Equal Rank-Equal Nature, and Equal in Authority as it relates between the Son and His Father. (Thayers Greek English Lexicon pg. 307) People for get that ancient semetic languages along with how this statement hit the Jewish ear -meant total equality thus they wanted to kill him for making himself = to God Jn 5:18
1 John 5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. E W Bullinger says, “in heaven &c. The texts read, “the Spirit, and the water”, & c., omitting all the words from “in heaven” to “in earth” (v.8) inclusive. The words are not found in any Gr. MS. before the sixteenth century.
@granolajoe43 The Jehovah Witness go this passage and try as well to make it seem as though there is some kind of conspiracy going on- the Church admits that this verse is not found in alot of the Greek Manuscripts. 1 timothy 3:16 -even without these two verses the Deity of Christ is abundantly clear from scripture, in fact E.W Bullinger admits himself that the term "the Son of God" means Deity as well. Figures of Speech pg 504. He says he was perfect man and perfect God.
@granolajoe43 even the old testament declares Jesus as being eternal and that "HIS" goiings forths are from ancient days from days of everlasting, hence not of created origin thus giving credence that the term "Son of God" means Deity "God the Son". Micah 5:2. The church holds that Jesus had 2 natures one of Deity and one of flesh, thus as a man he died but as God he "RAISED" his ownself from death Jn 2:19-21, Clearly 2 natures involved hardly a schitzo. don't be obtuse here
@granolajoe43 To be honest your critique doesn't hold up to scrutiny in light of the full consel of God's word. Even when kept simple. Not trying to be mean but even your star witness E.W Bullinger agrees with the church on the meaning of the term Son of God as being Deity thus giving credence that The Son of God means God the Son. James Moffit as well would agree and most the Bibles you quoted as well.
@granolajoe43 So when we couple all the verses that call him God such as Jn 1:1, Jn 20:28, Matt 1:23, Titus 2:13, Jn 8:58, Jn 10:30, Rev 1:17, Jn 5:18 together with the 50 verses or so that call him the Son of God we then see a clear picture of scripture emerge-that this Jesus was Equal to the Father because he too Yahweh God. Thus the term "The Son of God" is better understood by scholars to mean "God the Son". So God the Son is the CORRECT definition of "The Son of God". Amen...........
@007bfitz You have to change the Word of God to explain your suggestion that he is "God the Son." It does NOT say that, not even once. Keep it simple dude. 58 times it says "Son of God". Intellectualism can veer far from the simplicity in Christ. Who was Jesus praying to in the desert? Himself? What a skitso, if that were true. Jesus "humbled" himself before God, his Father. Every apparent discrepancy is the Bible is a deliberate translation forgery.
@granolajoe43 Scriptures that have been intentionally changed to support the trinity:
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God (not theos=God, but hos=which) was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. See, also, Griesbach 1805, Lachman 1850, Tishendorf 1872, Tregelles 1872, Alford 1870, Wordsworth 1870.
@granolajoe43 the most likely rendering here is that God is implied in 1 Timothy 3:16, due to the fact that it was God who sent God to dwell among men. Zacheriah 2:10-12 and that this word who was God Jn 1:1 became flesh and dwelt among us.Jn 1:14 who was indeed the God who was with us. Matt 1:23. Upon whom Thomas after seeing the risen Lord said unto him(Jesus) My Lord and My God=the Lord of me and the God of me and Jesus said because you have seen me you have believed believed what? he was God
@granolajoe43 Let me ask you Christ being the Son of God does that make him among the created realm ? meaning that he to came into being a particular point in time thus being a part of the created order of things? and if so then when did he come into existence?
@007bfitz even the old testament declares Jesus as being eternal and that "HIS" goiings forths are from ancient days from days of everlasting, hence not of created origin thus giving credence that the term "Son of God" means Deity "God the Son". Micah 5:2. The church holds that Jesus had 2 natures one of Deity and one of flesh, thus as a man he died but as God he "RAISED" his ownself from death Jn 2:19-21, Clearly 2 natures involved hardly a schitzo. don't be obtuse here.
@granolajoe43 what I am trying to say is like the Jws, cult groups key in on both those verses to make it seem the church is deceptive when all the while the church has documented that as not being in the original text-now you know that E.W Bullinger on pg 504 agrees with the Church that the term "The Son of God" means that Jesus was absolute perfect God by the usage of this term as well. Which means once again that Son of God is =to God the Son.
even without those two verses you posted we still have a clear picture of Christ deity from both the old and new testaments. For example Isaiah 40:3 cf Jn 1:23 The voice of the one crying in the wilderness prepares the way for God himself-which was John the Baptist preparing the way for Jesus-thus Jesus is equated as God. God sent God to dwell among men Zacheriah 2:10-12 and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us Jn 1:14 and the word was God. As Jesus said "I came down from heaven" Jn 6:38.
@granolajoe43 we have 2 natures at play one of deity and one of flesh, One as God Jn 1:1,Jn 8:58, Col 1:15-17, Rev 1:17, Jn 5:18,23 ect and the other as a servant (flesh) Phil 2:5-12 as a servant (flesh=man) he prayed to the Father but as God he was eternal Jn 1:1, Micah 5:2, Rev 3:14, Jn 17:5. As man he prayed,ate,got tired, slept, but as God he raised himself from death Jn 2:19-21 as God he created all things Col 1:15-17, Jn 1:3, Hebrews 1:10-12. As God he came down from heaven Jn 6:38..
@007bfitz The following Bible versions agree: Revised Standard Version, The Living Bible, George Lamsa Version, JB Phillips Version, The Living New Testament, New American Standard, Williams Version and Beck’s Version.
@granolajoe43 he scholars of the church readily admit that 1John 5:7 is spurious-not in the original text-the church hasnt hid anything about this. Now Theos is used of Christ in a good number of passages and even with the definite artical as in ho theos=the God. for instance Matt 1:23 and his name shall be called Emanuel meaning with us is "The God". This is consistent with the old testament that Yahweh would send Yahweh to dwell among men Zacheriah 2:10-12.
@granolajoe43 It would be best if you are going to quote Bibles and scholars as a helpful hint it would be best that the Bibles and Scholars you quote NOT agree with me-it would better help your cause. Good luck on finding reputable scholars because 995 of biblical scholars who have helped with biblical interpretation agree that Jesus was indeed God manifest in the flesh. Your view is by far highly rejected by 99% of the scholars as stated by 63 year Greek Scholar Julius R Mantey.
@007bfitz Romans 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Punctuation can change the meaning. Many place a period after “Christ” and start a new thought with a new sentence after this with the first word in that second sentence being “God.” See James Moffatt Translation, Today’s English Version, The New English Bible and The Living Bible.
@granolajoe43 when speaking of James Moffitt you must also include that even though he was a liberal scholar he still believed that Jesus was indeed God manifest in the flesh. The church once again speaks on this verse as having another possible meaning but to be consistent with old and new testament text concerning Christ the likely rendering is Jesus being called God in this verse as he is in Jn 1:1, Jn 20:28, Matt 1:23 coupled with Rev 1:17, Jn 8:58, 5:18, 5:23 ect.
@granolajoe43 I messed up, when we add the 50 verses or so with the verses that call Jesus God we see a clear picture emerge that Jesus is also Yahweh God. The scholars call him God the Son not to deceive people but only to give the correct definition toward the term "The Son of God". To put it very simple it means total EQUALITY with the Father in every sense- to put it in simple terms it means DEITY...AND since there is only one Deity by way of identity and self existence ThenJesus is= toGod.
Well, jordinLOVESnathan. you have a homo name, not that there's anything wrong with that, but for such a self rightous bibical fellow, you sure come off as being narrow minded and hypocritical. What the heck is wrong with Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses? They don't bug me. I'd rather live next to one of them than to a self rightous jerk like you sound.
You're making an awful lot of assumptions don't you think. Nyxie777? I may not even be a person of any faith at all.
There's nothing self-righteous in what I said. I know what Biblically-based Christianity is & Mormons/JW's don't follow it DOCTRINALLY. At best, they follow parts of it & add a whole bunch of other stuff. :P
I didn't say they were bad people, I was explaining the way Mormons/JW's are VIEWED by most in the Christian worldview.
ummmm christian women=lesbians. What makes you think evangelezzies don't eat clam through glory holes in women's bathrooms (similar to Larry Craig's and Ted Haggard's addiction to doing the lord's work on men's dongs all over the states?) bwa hahahaha!!!
They keep saying "put christ IN us". I think that's code for SOMETHING else. You figure it out.
just the feel good religions are the laughingstock!!! you live a life of reckless abandon and you forgive your own sins....oh wait, then mail a check to one of these tv shows with the promise of being cured from some affliction!!!
Thanks for posting this video- (Note to self - "mark and avoid" these people, especially the creepy guy on the far right.)
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how can your father be your brother?is God our brother or our father?why the bible says JESUS CHRIST IS sitting in the right of GOD?1TIM 2:5
Lucie9904 1 month ago
No matter how hard they try, real churches will never surpass the utter coolness of The Way International.
fgsltwhghobstwbihsnp 2 months ago
@fgsltwhghobstwbihsnp This performance is a lot of things, but "cool" is not one of them.
fayette202 5 days ago
cults will always be cool. Just watch the heavens gate videos and tell me that psychotic old man isn't cool...wait never mind. Good point.
fgsltwhghobstwbihsnp 5 days ago
I am non denominational but this is just wrong on so many levels LOL
khristinals 3 months ago
I was a searching girl who freely availed myself to fellowship meetings, while I am no longer involved, 90% of what you have seen and heard isn't true. it just isn't. The music you see is contrived, too thought out and God is not in it. That's not the way it was. There was heart, giving, and care, it may not have been a perfect performance, as you see above, we lived what we believed, God overlooks imperfection when you walk in love.
Dogypapa 5 months ago
It was bad enough being a member of this cult with their greater devotion to the books of Dr. Wierville than to scripture. So glad I spent more time reading the Bible and NOT buying any of his re-interpretations. That made it easier to see where they veered from truth, and now I find it saved me from this further development. God is good. This performance isn't.
ArBeeMovies 5 months ago
they are not singing about God... i would like to ask the what god are they talking about!!! gezzzzz
simplegusto1 10 months ago
This is why momma also told me to flish .
123itisfree 10 months ago
It's The Lawrence Welk Show revisited.
TVWriterGuy 11 months ago
This is why im Methodist. SMH
GLIFiend 11 months ago
Leviticus 3:11 "And so God said to the Israelites: and thou shalt form music groups with local PTA members, and thou shalt create the most unoriginal and trite music 'neath the heavens. And thou shalt include the words "His, God, Love, Christ, and Lord" in every single line." So it was written, and so shall it be. Praise the lord!
hobokombat 1 year ago 3
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Satan has all the best tunes!
andycandler 1 year ago
THIS IS SO FUCKING HOOD
brodftw 1 year ago 2
This is groovy.
TVWriterGuy 1 year ago
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if i could wipe my ass with my monitor right now... i would...
tcgenbishop 1 year ago
if i could wipe my ass with my monitor right now... i would...
tcgenbishop 1 year ago 3
im sorry, where are you gonna walk?
PUFFandRUFFLE158 1 year ago
At least they are all together in their steps!
wangstergirl 1 year ago
what a waste of fucking time, GO TO SCHOOL YOU FUCKING IDIOTS AND FIND A WAY TO ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE HUMAN RACE.
IGNsucks 1 year ago
Their followers of our living lord and savior Jesus Christ.... they live God's Word all the time.....Do you?
sogwap12 1 year ago
You guys are ignorant about The Way.Cathoclic and all those stuff are not true.The Way is the truth.
jelmel99 1 year ago
Hmm, white girl twostep much ?
TatianasaurusRexx 1 year ago
I think this is a good music
afg96 1 year ago
I love Jesus but this is a little too much for me. I can't believe they are doing this. STOP.
tracyistheshow 1 year ago
this is great where can i join I see they have no blacks monkeys thats a good thing
ARC1313 1 year ago
Dr. Wierwille love Larence Welk and it shows. My grandmother use to force me watch Larence Welk when I wanted to watch Walt Disney, she said it was good for me, I'm still scarred today because of it. (really now that I'm old I like to watch LW. and remenese about being a kid.)
thehappyhoof 2 years ago
Uber fail.
TheTupacolypse 2 years ago
Please please don't let this show leave the Branson border.
Beelzebird 2 years ago
Danafortcollins: if Jesus Christ was not God then how did he have the authority to forgive sins? Why does something have to make sense to us to be true? If a heliocentric universe doesn't make sense to me can I just say it doesn't exist and I can be right?
mdeitner 2 years ago
the followers of jesus also have the power to forgive sins. jesus said "he who believes in Me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do". so jesus believers can forgive sins and do greater works than jesus. god can't die. jesus died. god can't be seen. jesus was seen. the evidence is clear- jesus was NOT god.
doesn't really matter. yahweh is a myth.
fredmelmackian 1 year ago
This is why I'm Catholic.
kcbrez009 2 years ago 5
This is why I am agnostic!
shannonkish 2 years ago 9
This is why I'm Hot!
whatthejif 2 years ago 5
Funny
BelovedRogue1 2 years ago
@shannonkish This is why I am an atheist.
olegaaso 1 year ago
@kcbrez009 POR ESO SEGUIRAS COMIENDO ..MRD
AEHR1961 9 months ago
the croud is clapping, the croud is actually clapping! O_O!!
quetzalcoatl24 2 years ago
LOL um... is this like a worship competition? barbershop styles?
glowinthedarkdotcom 2 years ago
Hey tizer67, my name is Dana. To answer your question, no, Jesus christ is not God. You simply cannot throw out the mountain of clear verses and cling to the couple of (seemingly) unclear verses. Here are some examples: I Tim. 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus . John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time. (Jesus was seen by thousands) Mk14:36,Heb14:15,James1;13,John5:30. If you want the truth, I`ll show you where to look. God bless you, Dana
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Oh fuck me! I thought the renewed mind was funny! HAHAHAHHA!!! Now I know where losers go after high school (that is unless they go the route of getting fatter and uglier and becoming gay / lesbian cuz that's all they can get). Wish that asshole had done some rap dances again though. Once again christians pwn themselves by just being themselves.
wolfblaster 2 years ago
Did not the Way International (under Martindale) work up a way to develop a biblical rational for adultery?
visualsilence 2 years ago
No, that would be a lie. If you are born again you really should put off the old man.
Danafortcollins 2 years ago
yuppers!! :))
wannapop14 2 years ago
they are smoking! especially the short one in the middle of the tall ones! look at those moves!! my member agrees!
PinneappelExpress 2 years ago
I'd like to put some Christ in them!
riseofdixieland13 2 years ago 3
Ahaha, its the Sarah Palin one. Shes on the far left. Hahaha
emilynz 3 years ago
there hearts are in the right place... but just feel like stating and letting everyone know this isn't how most christians are... tacky, ridiculously quaint and extremely outdated... don't let this clip represent the whole of christendom... it really isn't even about a religion though... its about a personal relationship with Christ... bottom line..... but this vid is hilarious ha
mattattack007 3 years ago
You guys...just let people be. If you don't want to be involved in this goup, then don't. But there's no good reason for anyone to be hostile. Zealots or not, they're still people and most of them are probably just trying to do the "right" thing, whether that's the reality of it or not. Just leave them alone and let them do what they do.
Naomi5362 3 years ago 3
umm...they are doing the "right" thing. Everything is 100% true in that wonderful fellowship! trust me...i know
wannapop14 2 years ago
Oh I KNOW about The Way International and I know that I know that I know,I was in IT for a while(too LONG)vpw is LIAR. Agape!
wellthatsnotenough 3 years ago
Oh you again!
wellthatsnotenough 3 years ago
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The Way International cult people speak in "code" they really mean they are going to follow the rules of there lame CULT.
Google The Way International it is a scam from
a liar out of New Knoxville Ohio! RUN AWAY NOW.
wellthatsnotenough 3 years ago
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twi is no more of a cult than any other christian church or organization.
the bible is a myth. PERIOD!!!
wellthatsnotenough is a temper tantrum feet stomping immature asshat.
aliashumanist4 3 years ago
The Way International is not a CULT and the ppl definitely don't speak in code. Have you experienced this on your own? What are the rules? To be exact there are no rules. I'm going to give you the same advice I gave derekworth, Please don't rant on about something you know nothing about.
deniseberry08 3 years ago
the singing & dancing is fine, but the risque height of their skirt hems is a bit much.
MvonD 3 years ago 3
John Waters couldn't have outdone them.
kulmahn 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAAHA this is sooooooo funny
jwelsh149 3 years ago
I think Lawrence Welk choreographed this number. And by the way. The trinity never made sense to me either and I do believe that Jesus is the Lord and Savior. And by the double way, Jews don't believe in the trinity either. Does that mean they are in a cult?
Nyxie777 3 years ago
do you have evidence that heysoose is "lord and savior"?
nosoliciting0911 3 years ago
Hi nyxie777, you rock! The trinity never made sense to me either. Come to find out it`s a doctrine that was added 300 years after J. C. The word trinity does not even appear in the bible.The bible is VERY clear. Examples: 1Tim.2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus.Luke18:18&19Jesus said why callest thou me good?None is good, save one, that is God. If you want the truth, I`ll show you where to look. God bless you, Dana
Danafortcollins 2 years ago
I had a strong faith in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit until I saw this dance number. Now my faith is wavering, and I need to go to confession so I can get this nightmare out of my mind.
japanrussell 3 years ago 2
jordin do you know ANYTHING about the way???
i used to be in the way nimrod! you really tell it like it ain't. you are a typical hypocritical mythology believing christian.
huskers12303 3 years ago
LOL....you called her a nimrod!! lol
mrjonzmusic 3 years ago
If the foo shits- wear it!!!!
nosoliciting0911 3 years ago
Lol that stepping bit at the end gets me everytime!
awkwardbarry 3 years ago
capitalism for christ! greed for god! YAY!
muscleboundhomo 3 years ago
Christians know how to have a good time.
antlerbaby 3 years ago
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yes just ask sarah palin's daughter. bwa ha ha ha! boink boink.
muscleboundhomo 3 years ago
These aren't Christians. Not in the sense of what is Biblical Christianity anyway.
This is a splinter group off of The Jehovah's Witnesses, which is a cult. Regardless of whether you believe in any faith or not, the majority of the Christian world doesn't accept either of these groups as "Christian". Mormons (Latter Day Saints) are viewed the same way.
They've latched on to Christianity in name, but their doctrines are pretty out there in relation to Biblical Christianity.
Peace.
jordinlovesnathan 3 years ago
Interesting. I didn't know that.
antlerbaby 3 years ago
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Christianity in general is a cult.
suddeninfantdeath 3 years ago
this "group" has nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses. It was started in Ohio by Rev Weirwille, and is based on christian beliefs. please, please, read up before saying crap
redfury0156 3 years ago
The problem Christians have with The Way and Weirwille might have something to do with books written by Weirwille like, "Jesus Christ is not God." Look it up. The Way is very much not Christian.
derekworth 3 years ago
Look it up? I use to be a member. I left for my own reasons. I said it is based not it is, please read more carefully. and dont refference books without reading them.
redfury0156 3 years ago 2
We've all heard the saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover". This book is very accurate. Jesus Christ is not God he is the son of God. I agree with redfury0156, you need to do your research before you begin ranting on about something you have no clue about.
deniseberry08 3 years ago
Surely as part of the Holy Trinity Jesus IS God just as he is the Holy Spirit also. No?
tizer67 3 years ago
Look it up? ah...like where?
snuggleupisus 2 years ago
@derekworth Since when is "Jesus being God" Christian? What if there were 58 verses that called him the "son of God" and NONE, NONE NONE calling him "God the Son"? (Bible facts don't lie)
granolajoe43 4 months ago
@granolajoe43 To answer your question let me ask you a question. Why was the Church persecuted by Saul in the first place? The early church came under attack for what? Acts 9:14 answers this for us all. Because they -The early church called upon Jesus -they were persecuted for calling upon his name. The meaning of "Calling upon His Name" was an act of Worship towards Jesus Christ -it means to Invoke, Adore, and Worship that is Jesus Christ. Thayers Greek English Lexicon pg. 239.
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 Correct Bible facts do NOT lie. But of understanding of Bible facts can lead us into self -deception and we then lie to our ownselves. Now the term "The Son of God" means Equal Rank-Equal Nature, and Equal in Authority as it relates between the Son and His Father. (Thayers Greek English Lexicon pg. 307) People for get that ancient semetic languages along with how this statement hit the Jewish ear -meant total equality thus they wanted to kill him for making himself = to God Jn 5:18
007bfitz 3 months ago
1 John 5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. E W Bullinger says, “in heaven &c. The texts read, “the Spirit, and the water”, & c., omitting all the words from “in heaven” to “in earth” (v.8) inclusive. The words are not found in any Gr. MS. before the sixteenth century.
granolajoe43 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 The Jehovah Witness go this passage and try as well to make it seem as though there is some kind of conspiracy going on- the Church admits that this verse is not found in alot of the Greek Manuscripts. 1 timothy 3:16 -even without these two verses the Deity of Christ is abundantly clear from scripture, in fact E.W Bullinger admits himself that the term "the Son of God" means Deity as well. Figures of Speech pg 504. He says he was perfect man and perfect God.
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 even the old testament declares Jesus as being eternal and that "HIS" goiings forths are from ancient days from days of everlasting, hence not of created origin thus giving credence that the term "Son of God" means Deity "God the Son". Micah 5:2. The church holds that Jesus had 2 natures one of Deity and one of flesh, thus as a man he died but as God he "RAISED" his ownself from death Jn 2:19-21, Clearly 2 natures involved hardly a schitzo. don't be obtuse here
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 To be honest your critique doesn't hold up to scrutiny in light of the full consel of God's word. Even when kept simple. Not trying to be mean but even your star witness E.W Bullinger agrees with the church on the meaning of the term Son of God as being Deity thus giving credence that The Son of God means God the Son. James Moffit as well would agree and most the Bibles you quoted as well.
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 So when we couple all the verses that call him God such as Jn 1:1, Jn 20:28, Matt 1:23, Titus 2:13, Jn 8:58, Jn 10:30, Rev 1:17, Jn 5:18 together with the 50 verses or so that call him the Son of God we then see a clear picture of scripture emerge-that this Jesus was Equal to the Father because he too Yahweh God. Thus the term "The Son of God" is better understood by scholars to mean "God the Son". So God the Son is the CORRECT definition of "The Son of God". Amen...........
007bfitz 3 months ago
@007bfitz You have to change the Word of God to explain your suggestion that he is "God the Son." It does NOT say that, not even once. Keep it simple dude. 58 times it says "Son of God". Intellectualism can veer far from the simplicity in Christ. Who was Jesus praying to in the desert? Himself? What a skitso, if that were true. Jesus "humbled" himself before God, his Father. Every apparent discrepancy is the Bible is a deliberate translation forgery.
granolajoe43 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 Scriptures that have been intentionally changed to support the trinity:
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God (not theos=God, but hos=which) was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. See, also, Griesbach 1805, Lachman 1850, Tishendorf 1872, Tregelles 1872, Alford 1870, Wordsworth 1870.
granolajoe43 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 the most likely rendering here is that God is implied in 1 Timothy 3:16, due to the fact that it was God who sent God to dwell among men. Zacheriah 2:10-12 and that this word who was God Jn 1:1 became flesh and dwelt among us.Jn 1:14 who was indeed the God who was with us. Matt 1:23. Upon whom Thomas after seeing the risen Lord said unto him(Jesus) My Lord and My God=the Lord of me and the God of me and Jesus said because you have seen me you have believed believed what? he was God
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 Let me ask you Christ being the Son of God does that make him among the created realm ? meaning that he to came into being a particular point in time thus being a part of the created order of things? and if so then when did he come into existence?
007bfitz 3 months ago
@007bfitz even the old testament declares Jesus as being eternal and that "HIS" goiings forths are from ancient days from days of everlasting, hence not of created origin thus giving credence that the term "Son of God" means Deity "God the Son". Micah 5:2. The church holds that Jesus had 2 natures one of Deity and one of flesh, thus as a man he died but as God he "RAISED" his ownself from death Jn 2:19-21, Clearly 2 natures involved hardly a schitzo. don't be obtuse here.
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 what I am trying to say is like the Jws, cult groups key in on both those verses to make it seem the church is deceptive when all the while the church has documented that as not being in the original text-now you know that E.W Bullinger on pg 504 agrees with the Church that the term "The Son of God" means that Jesus was absolute perfect God by the usage of this term as well. Which means once again that Son of God is =to God the Son.
007bfitz 3 months ago
even without those two verses you posted we still have a clear picture of Christ deity from both the old and new testaments. For example Isaiah 40:3 cf Jn 1:23 The voice of the one crying in the wilderness prepares the way for God himself-which was John the Baptist preparing the way for Jesus-thus Jesus is equated as God. God sent God to dwell among men Zacheriah 2:10-12 and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us Jn 1:14 and the word was God. As Jesus said "I came down from heaven" Jn 6:38.
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 we have 2 natures at play one of deity and one of flesh, One as God Jn 1:1,Jn 8:58, Col 1:15-17, Rev 1:17, Jn 5:18,23 ect and the other as a servant (flesh) Phil 2:5-12 as a servant (flesh=man) he prayed to the Father but as God he was eternal Jn 1:1, Micah 5:2, Rev 3:14, Jn 17:5. As man he prayed,ate,got tired, slept, but as God he raised himself from death Jn 2:19-21 as God he created all things Col 1:15-17, Jn 1:3, Hebrews 1:10-12. As God he came down from heaven Jn 6:38..
007bfitz 3 months ago
@007bfitz The following Bible versions agree: Revised Standard Version, The Living Bible, George Lamsa Version, JB Phillips Version, The Living New Testament, New American Standard, Williams Version and Beck’s Version.
granolajoe43 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 he scholars of the church readily admit that 1John 5:7 is spurious-not in the original text-the church hasnt hid anything about this. Now Theos is used of Christ in a good number of passages and even with the definite artical as in ho theos=the God. for instance Matt 1:23 and his name shall be called Emanuel meaning with us is "The God". This is consistent with the old testament that Yahweh would send Yahweh to dwell among men Zacheriah 2:10-12.
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 It would be best if you are going to quote Bibles and scholars as a helpful hint it would be best that the Bibles and Scholars you quote NOT agree with me-it would better help your cause. Good luck on finding reputable scholars because 995 of biblical scholars who have helped with biblical interpretation agree that Jesus was indeed God manifest in the flesh. Your view is by far highly rejected by 99% of the scholars as stated by 63 year Greek Scholar Julius R Mantey.
007bfitz 3 months ago
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@007bfitz Romans 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Punctuation can change the meaning. Many place a period after “Christ” and start a new thought with a new sentence after this with the first word in that second sentence being “God.” See James Moffatt Translation, Today’s English Version, The New English Bible and The Living Bible.
granolajoe43 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 when speaking of James Moffitt you must also include that even though he was a liberal scholar he still believed that Jesus was indeed God manifest in the flesh. The church once again speaks on this verse as having another possible meaning but to be consistent with old and new testament text concerning Christ the likely rendering is Jesus being called God in this verse as he is in Jn 1:1, Jn 20:28, Matt 1:23 coupled with Rev 1:17, Jn 8:58, 5:18, 5:23 ect.
007bfitz 3 months ago
@granolajoe43 I messed up, when we add the 50 verses or so with the verses that call Jesus God we see a clear picture emerge that Jesus is also Yahweh God. The scholars call him God the Son not to deceive people but only to give the correct definition toward the term "The Son of God". To put it very simple it means total EQUALITY with the Father in every sense- to put it in simple terms it means DEITY...AND since there is only one Deity by way of identity and self existence ThenJesus is= toGod.
007bfitz 3 months ago
Well, jordinLOVESnathan. you have a homo name, not that there's anything wrong with that, but for such a self rightous bibical fellow, you sure come off as being narrow minded and hypocritical. What the heck is wrong with Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses? They don't bug me. I'd rather live next to one of them than to a self rightous jerk like you sound.
Nyxie777 3 years ago
You're making an awful lot of assumptions don't you think. Nyxie777? I may not even be a person of any faith at all.
There's nothing self-righteous in what I said. I know what Biblically-based Christianity is & Mormons/JW's don't follow it DOCTRINALLY. At best, they follow parts of it & add a whole bunch of other stuff. :P
I didn't say they were bad people, I was explaining the way Mormons/JW's are VIEWED by most in the Christian worldview.
...and my name was a joke. ;)
Peace.
jordinlovesnathan 3 years ago
This is from 2007? it looks like it came straight from 1983.
I wonder why I don't subscribe to ANY religion....Oh...yeah....this is why.
Trig242 3 years ago
I like how only christian women and lesbians get that hair cut!
gwilli24 3 years ago
ummmm christian women=lesbians. What makes you think evangelezzies don't eat clam through glory holes in women's bathrooms (similar to Larry Craig's and Ted Haggard's addiction to doing the lord's work on men's dongs all over the states?) bwa hahahaha!!!
They keep saying "put christ IN us". I think that's code for SOMETHING else. You figure it out.
muscleboundhomo 3 years ago
I just pooped something better than this.
FreddieJack 3 years ago
someone should take the choreographer out back and shoot them
chiefmusician 3 years ago 10
Take it off baby!
ndalhover 3 years ago
:) I agree with both of your comments.
shannonkish 3 years ago 3
just the feel good religions are the laughingstock!!! you live a life of reckless abandon and you forgive your own sins....oh wait, then mail a check to one of these tv shows with the promise of being cured from some affliction!!!
Buzz051 3 years ago 3
*face in hands* And to think churchianity in America is the laughingstock of the entire world. I'm shocked.
tclary 3 years ago