FAA Audio Hudson Mid-Air Collision

[hammerogod]

Wiki ~ hudson-river-midair

Google it.

That will satisfy your mind as to how much the funny cat shit cell phone conversation cost.

9 Lives. (coincidental?)

If you fly with your head up your ass you are gonna meet the reaper.

Luck does run out.

[hammerogod]

Bottom line:

"The Teterboro Airport local controller unnecessarily delayed transferring communications for the accident airplane from Teterboro to Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), which prevented the EWR controller from turning the airplane away from Hudson River traffic and having the airplane climb directly into class B airspace."

"The Teterboro Airport local controller did not provide continual traffic advisories to the airplane pilot, as required" (Official NTSB Report)

[blckwaterpark]

This guy should be charged for manslaughter in the death of 9 people. Its his job to make sure no 2 aircraft collide. Yet he was busy talking on the phone while he could have been looking on the screen. Get a job at TSA if you can't handle serious work that matters.

[yellowcub86]

you wrong his sector does not cover hudson river vfr corridor so the guy to blame its the lance guy

[castlekid08]

@blckwaterpark WTF you talking about?! TSA has nothing to do with aircraft separation!!!!!!

[blckwaterpark]

@castlekid08

lol go on ebay and find yourself some

sense of humor.

[frequenceez]

stop blaming the controller...He did not do anything wrong..

[CaptainFaisal]

its the pilot fault to switch into the wrong freq. anyway RIP all victims on the crash.

[TG626]

I didn't hear it established that he switched to the wrong freq - if he did, did he read back the wrong freq? (as in he misheard the controllers directions, the controller wouldn't know, he wasn't paying attention to the read back, and I wouldn't know because of the HORRIBLE quality of the recording)

[CaptainFaisal]

he read back the wrong freq but no atc couldn't figure out that he misread-ed the frequency until he switched.

[Boostguru]

yeah man i was thinking the same thing, way too common do i hear readbacks being blown off, not entirely but too much assumption that the right info was passed.

i dont know if my ears are playing tricks on me between the mic ruffle, adjacent facility or position calling, and the pilot readback, but i heard "one two seven point...." rest is too ruffled.

either way, couldnt teterboro tower have hit up 71MC on guard? i heard no attempt to use emergency freqs on this feed.

whats the result?

[AgentMulder3667]

Just shows you what one little distraction can cause. The guy sounds competent enough, seems to have a handle on his job, but the chit-chat took his eye off the ball, and got people killed.

[chuckxf]

why does everyone look to blame someone??? it was clear and a million...both pilots are to blame!

LOOK AND AVOID!!!

[AgentMulder3667]

There is a great amount of irony to that post. You ask why everyone is looking to blame somebody, then jump right in and blame the pilots.

The plane was ascending and faced away from the chopper. From what I've gathered, the pilots had no way of seeing each other. Regardless, had the ATC been paying attention to the two blips about to become one, this whole thing could have been avoided.

[TG626]

I'm pretty sure from the vectors and altitudes that the they could not see each other. The plane was a low wing being approached from below, the chopper might have seen the plane if he craned his head around to the right... In any case, if pilot diligence were sufficient to avoid collisions there wouldn't be an ATC (or TACS or GPWS or CAWS for that matter)...

[lunchbag08]

you learn in training to not always rely on ATC you have to scan and look for traffic, ATC cant do everything and they can make mistakes, they are people just like me and you not God. you have to look out for youself up there and ATC will be there to help out a little.

[bajesus666]

fly the damn thing before anything!

[yellowcub86]

you cant avoid when something is coming in from behind you explain to me how would you do that in AS350?

[TG626]

Based on this I think the controller should be brought up on charges in the deaths of all involved. I had no idea what's "allowed" in the way of "chit chat" but it's obvious from this that he is NOT paying attention. On at least two occasions he's talking to the female while a pilot is reading back their instructions...

[fannypenis]

???

[planemadmatt]

Judging by your name, I'm not suprised.

[fannypenis]

Did they cash at the end of the audio clip?