@MultiMrfalcon I'm a Republican from Texas you Asshole. Why is it that when anyone criticizes a Republican for making stupid remarks, it is assumed the person is a Liberal? I have been angry with the GOP since Bush Sr. Said, "Read my lips, No New Taxes", then he taxed us anyway. Bush JR and the other idiots drove the party into the ground. Have you not been watching the debates? The entire party along with Boehner have cost ME alot of MONEY and caused greif for this nation. Grow a BRAIN!
@cromagnan No, you sound more like an angry liberal who wants to paint himself as an angry conservative. If it smells like dog shit and sounds like dog shit, it is dog shit. You be dog shit. Vote liberal and drink the kool-aid.
@MultiMrfalcon The only way Obama could have won the election was for quite a large number of Republicans to vote for him. I am one of many and you have a small brain.
@cromagnan He won because of the independents you fucking moron. He will lose for the same reason you fucking moron. One thing is consistent in your posts. You are a fucking moron and a liberal pretending he once was a conservative. Dumbass.
You guys who believe the Republican crap should do a little more reading and less watching FOX news . Do a search on GOOGLE for which party over the years ran up the most debt , you will see that it's the Republicans my a wide margin . Then ask yourself this simple question , do you want the rich to pay for their share of all this debt they ran up , or do you want it left for your children and grand children . Don't believe what they say , believe what they DO ! You're getting suckered boys .
@joeblackakareaper Actually, if you look up the statistics from the IRS and do some simple math, it doesn't matter how much the rich pay - you can 100% of the income of every single millionare and billionare in the entire nation for President Obama's entire third year, and it wouldn't even pay for the brand new deficit of that third year. And since Obama has proposed more spending since any president since the founding, I think the question on who spent the most is clear.
@joeblackakareaper We did, and oh yes, lets see here, after Bush lost the house and senate in 2005 midterm, soon the economy changed from improving to worsening, GDP to debt ratio, unemployment rate, went from improving to worsening, the only thing Bush was able to do was keep us safe,,, until Obama took over. Who ran up the debt? liberal policy. Now we are looking at you, ,, a sucker. Seriously, please do more research, not all republicans are conservatives either.
@joeblackakareaper Sounds like you need to quit watching CNN and MSNBC religiously and quit being told how to feel. Think for yourself once, silly liberal. Every news station has their agenda, but at least Fox is willing to let liberals work on their station and have their own shows. Not to mention, Stossel and O'Reilly hardly agree on anything. MSNBC is just fast-paced interruptions on the interviewee, and personal attacks when the interviewee says something intelligent and correct.
why does modern American journalism consist only of combativeness, cutting off the interviewee before a complete answer is given, and heavy personal bias? I can get that at a family reunion.
We increased taxes on the super-rich to pay for the Rev War & the War of 1812 & the Civil War & the 1st WW & the 2nd WW & the Korean War & the Vietnam War!
But we LOWERED taxes on the super-rich during the Iraq War so they pay an income tax rate 1/2 that of the middle-class & ran up a massive debt!
And Ryan wants to lower the taxes on the super-rich even more!
So the wealthy business owners had their taxes cut as recently as 2003 and they created millions of jobs, right? Oh wait, they did'nt. Bush's job creation was one of the worst in presidential history. So here's the question: the wealthy have had their taxes reduced to levels not seen since the 50's for aprox the last 10 years-so WHERE ARE THE JOBS????
@jaxyanks Idiot. When Bush cut taxes, the economy was already at 5% unemployment. Of course there would've been piss poor job creation. But from 2004 to 2007unemployment averaged at 4.6%. Pretty damn good when compared to other presidents. Revenues also increased after the 2003 tax break,which got us out of the 9/11 recession. As for the jobs, take an econ class kid. Current tax rates are ineffective when a recession hits. Tax cuts 10 years ago won't help us now. Idiot.
@spacer125 If you want I can send you the CBO sources, the BEA sources, and the BLS sources from the government to make you realize how wrong you are.
@jaxyanks Key difference in the 50's there was American pride and people bought products made by our hands, so the dollar was protected, today the free market allows us to destroy ourselves out of lack of fundamental principles on who we buy from like China. Bush did create a lot of jobs, but his hands were tied after the end of 2005, when the recession started, so you can't blame him, you have to blame those who took over at that time. liberals
Paul Ryan makes the half-truth claim that discretionary spending increased by 84%. He doesn't state that part of the Obama stimulus package included $308 billion in discretionary spending.
What's lost in Ryan's remark is that the Obama stimulus package was needed to kick start the economy, which went belly-up during Bush's presidency. Some economists argue stimulus package was too small.
Damn, Paul Ryan is as good as they come for politicians that can twist the truth to suit his own agenda.
@robocong7420 Where did I say you invented the race card? Yeah, I didn't think so. Apparently improving your reading comprehension isn't on your bucket list.
It would also be nice if you didn't edit out the cuts that Ryan is proposing. I'm not saying I oppose those cuts, but you should have allowed them to play out in the video, for completeness, and intellectual honesty. Why? Because those cuts are to things like delaying retirement to 67 years old. And cuts to Medicare and other benefits associated with retirement safety nets. Right or wrong, these types of cuts are things that most Americans aren't in favor of.
But sure, tax breaks and post 9/11 wars costing between "$3.7 trillion and $4.4 trillion" (Brown University "Cost of War" research project) were only a small part of our current fiscal problems. Let's not forget Bush's prescription drug bill, which cost the taxpayers $1.2 trillion.
The most you can say is that Paul Ryan, like all seasoned politicians, is good at spinning a yarn, and cherry picking facts.
Paul Ryan is a complete hypocrite. He professes to care about his elderly constituents while fighting to swap their medicare with a voucher system that won't even begin to cover their health care. Laissez-faire / Randian capitalism brought us the Great Depression. Ryan is a corporate whore of the first order and an embarassment to the state of Wisconsin.
@judeseamus Ayn Rand didn't even move to the US until 1929, so I don't think the adjective "Randian" really applies there. Really though, to call the economic period before the Depression "laissez faire" isn't accurate at all. How is a central bank system laissez faire?
@MultiMrfalcon I see. You really showed me how you believe that??????? and ?????????? are the reason that ?????????? are creating ?????? in our economy. Fucking idiot? At least have point.
@judeseamus Any rationale point, any common sense approach would go over your fucking head. You have neither the intellect nor the common sense to understand how things work in the economy or the world. To debate you is to debate a child. The next time I give a homeless person my change I will think of you. OUT!
Funny how that works...percentage of GDP is more important to take into account, NOT overall money. We have more money than any country in the world...so we spend more than any on defense. If we didn't, we couldn't keep being as successful as we are. If someone has a bigger stick, they will take your treasure.
-make medicare only for poor seniors, and raise the retirement age. why should struggling workers have to pay for rich seniors that don't do anything? it's insanity.
-make social security only for poor seniors (and raise the retirement age). same reasoning.
-find massive defense cuts. we spend about as much as the rest of the world combined. anyone can see that this is too much.
@bassnashville so what? it wouldn't matter if it's 1% of GDP. we don't need to spend that much money. what's the point of spending as much as the rest of the world? especially when when many of the top spenders are our allies. roughtly 20% of the federal budget is defense spending. that's the percentage we need to look at. by your logic, medicare and medicaid combined only comprise about 5% of GDP, therefore, we shouldn't cut them. nice reasoning.
@UltraProle21 % of GDP is exactly how you measure the spending of a country. The economy IS the GDP. The % of "budget" is arbitrary. GDP is a hard number of the actual amount of money we have. So it is more important to the economy how much of the GDP is being spent. As for the medicare and medicaid comment, no one is arguing that those programs should be cut. The only real argument about any individual welfare that I've heard is that they need reform. Both Dems and Reps have argued this.
@EffieReal lol "reform" means cost reduction measures. but why don't they just look at the fact that these programs are a small % of GDP and leave it alone? because there's more $ being spent on them than is necessary, period. same with defense. also, i can clearly point to many more examples: discretionary spending is a smaller % of GDP than defense, therefore, it shouldn't be cut? c'mon. rich countries can afford to have a smaller % of GDP used for necessary gov't services.
@UltraProle21 I understand what you mean, but again, I don't think anyone is saying that we "can't afford to have a smaller % of GDP...services". I just think that there is a legitimate harm to people who are trapped in a system that encourages the most negative and character-destroying traits. There is a huge amount of gaming the system, people are encouraged to lie (even by the welfare workers), have to hide income, acquire bad habits and see no reason to improve. It's really a sad picture.
@UltraProle21 You brought up medicare and medicaid. I responded to your point. You responded to "reform". I responded to that. So, no, we were not entirely talking about defense cuts.
@bassnashville Yep, but that does not include all military spending and foreign aid. The total military industrial complex is probably up to 10-20% of the GDP.
@Qobilaktika Total for Homeland Security, Defense and Overseas Contingency Operations (wars) was 19.7% in 2011. Entitlement spending for medicare, medicade, social security and miscellaneous welfare programs such as food stamps was 60.9% and it's growing everyday. We're borrowing 43 cents of every dollar spent so the interest on said borrowed money was more in 2011 than Homeland Security and the wars combined. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where this is going...
@NolanBrooks22694 Well, spending less is what people are supposed to do when they run up debt. But that is only because they can't print money like our 'look out for the little guy' government does. It's like telling someone who can't pay their debt, "Just make more money, then you can pay off more of your debt. You don't need to stop spending." Debate.
@Playit87 If you need an explaination, you're not up on current affairs and you might want to stop getting your talking points from oxyRush and his crew of assholes.
@policechaser How is he bought and paid for? What money has he taken? I don't listen to Rush/Hannity/O'Reilly or any of those types. I listen to Milton Friedman and Henry Hazlitt. Rep. Ryan is taking steps in the right direction.
When Obama wins his second term in November, I cant wait to see how you righty republican tea party losers react to losing again, it feels so good to be on a winning side, its so funny how you losers have your funny reality show and your stupid un-electable rascist canidates. Enjoy loosing to the middle class and OBAMA in November!
@blahthethird Yes I do & in the dictionary it has Paul Ryans picture next to the definition you idiot!!! Funny how Neo-Cons like Paul Ryan & others try to portray black people & other minorities as a drain on the system because of welfare when it is a very well known fact that there are by far more white people on welfare, food stamps & all other entitlement programs so why do Neo-Cons try to pawn that off on minorities if they're not fascist or at the very least racist? Yet they never admit it!
@blahthethird Peculiar that you removed your comment you chicken shit!!! How can minorities be a drain on the system if there are more whites on entitlement programs including welfare & food stamps than all other minorities combined!!! Look it up dumb fuck!!! It's amazing you Neo-Con fascists could have God descend down from the heavens & point the truth out to you & still not believe it. Funny how you defend Ryan on being a fascist & you proved by your comments that you're one yourself. LOL!!!
@blahthethird I said there are more whites on weflare & food stamps you idiot!!! I also said look it up! Why don't you do some research & see who's really sucking the system dry? It wouldn't even be a racial issue if idiots like you didn't stereo type blacks as a drain on the system when nothing could be further from the truth. Why don't you do yourself a favor, quit watching Fox News & get a lobotomy!!! Being that someone keeps removing my comments & you're a FUCK HEAD, I'm done with this. GR!!
@Conquistador2112 Sooooo, the fact that whites are 70% of the population and blacks are 11.6% doesn't make a difference. 6.5 times as many whites in the country yet whites ate 2.2 times as likely to be using those gov't funds. OOPS. Same when you look at the crime stats. 54% of crime is committed by blacks and 14% by whites. Facts are not racist, you are racist.
@svvmichael1 I wasn't disputing the % of whites vs blacks in the Population you IDIOT! I was simply pointing out a FACT that there are more whites on welfare & food stamps than blacks so to blame blacks is ludicrous & welfare reform shouldn't be a racial issue but a social issue. In addition the majority of blacks on welfare are in the southeast where their population is higher so your comparison is hardly fair & it's beside the point anyway unless you inject race into it which only racists do!
@Conquistador2112 1) I agree that race shouldn't be used by the GOVERNMENT. But racists like you always inject race into these matters. It isn't racist to cite stats, unless you lie...as you did. Blacks account for nearly 40% of all drug use (~38-39%), hispanics around 30% and whites about 30%. Stop lying. 2) I never attacked minorities, they do that on their own, and fools like you do it too.3) If you need me to list sites with accurate stats let me know, so you can stop lying
@svvmichael1 Where did you get your stats from Fox News AM Radio? I got bad news for you, you're the one lying you ignorant fuck!!! Perhaps you're too stupid to know the difference & you're not actually lying but you believe these inaccurate stats (lies). Look it up idiot!!! God himself could point the truth out to you but if it didn't support your xenophobic fears you wouldn't believe it. I don't wast time debating with Neo-Cons that repeat fox news one liners. I'm done with you, Good Riddance!
@svvmichael1 Hey you! I found you! Want to give me proof about Obama's grades? Remember how you never answered me because you don't want to face the music? Fucking idiot.
@deutschland08fn Ummm, I answered you 4 times you fucking liar. The debate is over and you lost. Now check youtube's TOS. Trolling someone to another page is a bannable offense. Bye idiot.
@svvmichael1 False. You did not give me one single source. You named a few prominent newspapers and magazines, none of which had any information on Obama's grades, and then when I called you out on that you called me names and suggested that I google it. U mad, bro?
@deutschland08fn False, I gave you all the info to find out the same info i posted. I have just reported you for trolling. Look at TOS, it is a bannable offense.
@svvmichael1 Okay... Wanna give me that "info" again? Because you definitely never game me tangible proof. Also, I am not trolling you because I didn't track you to this thread. I came upon this video separately and laughed when I saw you entangled in arguments with people who have brains.
@deutschland08fn I listed his EXACT CLASS SCHEDULE. Easy to find that, bye now troll. You are a racist, misanthropic little troll who'll never amount to anything, so you troll youtube. LOL>
@deutschland08fn This guy's (svvmichael1) an idiot, I got into a similar debate with him about welfare, food stamps & crime stats on blacks convicted for drug offenses. In his racist tiny world these are all the result of worthless lazy black people. I nailed him the same way you did because his stats are way off but instead of posting his sources (Fox News/AM Radio) he tries to call me a liar & keeps saying he won LOL!!! There's no point in trying to show him facts, he's an uneducated fool.
@deutschland08fn Yeah, he's obviously got a massive inferiority complex, I finally told him I was done with him because he didn't deal in facts and just regurgitated fox news & AM radio one liners but he still had to respond trying to bait me into a tit for tat to get the last word. I realized the shit would never end because he's fucking loony LOL!!!
@deutschland08fn This guy's out of his mind. He'll never admit it now matter how much proof is present to him, besides why the fuck does he care what kind of grades Obama got anyway? Did he question George Bush's grades? If Obama's name was Will Smith these Neo-Con idiots would have never questioned his birth certificate. Every time they question Obama being Socialist, Not born here or being Muslim (which shouldn't matter) they waste precious time that they could be legitimately criticizing him.
@deutschland08fn I'm not happy with Obama's job as the President but I can't stand these racist assholes spewing their propaganda & then when you call them out on being racist all they can come up with is your a racist LOL!!! That's insane, they act like racism doesn't exist & then when you catch them being racist & call them out on it they call you racist. I would hate to be one of these idiots. There are plenty of real shortcomings about Obama to be making up or perpetuating lies about him.
@deutschland08fn I gave you the sources. You have been an ignorant fool about it. Obama is going to lose badly. It is a given. He'll go down as the worst president in history as he has nearly destroyed the economy. He just threw away 50,000 jobs and guaranteed an increase of 20-40% in gas prices. You 2 fuckheads don't understand economics or history. I already CRUSHED you so bad on another page on economics that you ran away for weeks.
m@svvmichael1 Obama nearly destroyed the economy? Are you so dumb that you can't figure out that he inherited all his problems from Bush? You think Obama suddenly turned the economy upside down? No president is capable of that, except a republican who entices war so his rich friends can get richer, and so can he, because of kickbacks, etc. and don't tell me you don't believe that's true. If so, you are also a liar, which is not surprising, considering who you are backing. Shame on you!
@leokatgirl You are wong on every point. 1) Obama is the biggest hypocrit. He tries to force us into a failing socialist scheme, while he and his friends practice Crony Capitalism. 2) The economic failings are not from Bush. Yes the wars had a negative effect, but the real reason for the collapse was the 1977 CRA from Carte, and especially the Clinton expansions of it in '93 and '96. It forced banks to increase their portfolio of low-income/bad credit loans over 25%...
@leokatgirl ...that created a massive demand for homes, which skyrocketed the prices. Then, SURPRISE, those bad credit people stopped paying, and since 15-20% defaulted (instead of the historical 1.7%-3% when loans were to good-credit people w/ 10%-20% down) it collapsed the system. On top of that Fannie/Freddie had leveraged themselve down to 3% of assets. Franklin Raines was called to congress by republicans who tried to fix this, but Democrats who got massive campaign money...
@leokatgirl ...from Fannie/Freddie protected him. Raines, BTW, is a major confidante of Obama, and he raped Fannie for over $100 million WHILE Fannie was collapsing. Now, I have pointed out specific reasons why the collapse happened (and you can find the video of Raines to Congress on youtude...and a video where Bill Clinto admits the collapse is the fault of Democrats), and you can't find specific reasons it is republican's fault. Bye now.
@svvmichael1 BTW, in reference to your crime stats which had nothing to do with my comments but I know you Neo-Cons can't help but find something to attack minorities on, a majority of blacks incarcerated are for drugs. Only 14% of the drug consumption is by blacks yet closer to 60% of people in prison for drugs are black. Do the math!!! If there's racism in America it's clearly in our justice system. Bottom line is these issues should be dealt with as problems with welfare & crime not race.
There are only a small handful of what I consider "true conservatives" in the Congress. Paul Ryan is definitely one of them. The others are Jim DeMint, Ron Paul, and possibly Michelle Bachmann.
@mikebri527 Ug, not Bachmann. Actually, any of the hawkish, warmongering politicians are not conservative at all. They should adhere to the tenets of Senator Robert Taft (who was called "Mr. Republican" in his day) - he was opposed to all forms of large government, be it welfare or warfare. He opposed American involvement in the Korean War, NATO, The United Nations, and WWII until we were attacked. A true conservative is a non-interventionist, plain and simple.
@reefergoat I agree with you 100%. It's a shame that more people don't realize this. Whenever I talk to other "conservatives" about a non-interventionist foreign policy I get ridiculed. Yet they have no problem speaking out about the "welfare" state proposed by the left but defend the "warfare" state proposed by the right. Completely hypocritical to me and just as much in support of big govn't as the democrats and liberals. Pitiful don't you think?
@mikebri527 I agree. I just don't understand how a movement can espouse small government tenets and yet not be willing to cut a dime from one of our biggest government expenditures - the military. It's not even truly defense spending, it's expansionist, offense spending. Additionally, war always gives the government an incentive to strip away individual liberty in the name of national security, further increasing the intrusive size of government.
....what everyone of these talking heads like Matthews fail to understand apparently is that there is almost a trillion dollars of "unspent" monies from TARP and the Porkulous just sitting in an Owebama slush fund. Yet he wants another Son of Porkulous. There's no end to this fools ability to spend and tax and he has no plans what-so-ever of reducing the deficit by rescending it..
New Years Resolution - to no longer argue with idiots and close minded people, who refuse to accept facts for facts, and data for data. This country has a far way to go in intellect and common sense and I dont think there is enough good people to educate these irrational beings.
If I was President, my first 30 days will be spent sitting Republicans in a giant room and proving to them how each of there talking points, rhetoric, ideology are completely non-factual and have no historical evidence. I believe Obamas second term (since he will be re-elected) must be spent tackling ideology vs policy, otherwise nothing important will ever get done.
@319jmp Bush left obama with an economy 19% higher than what he received. Clintons total federal revenue was about $12 trillion bush's federal tax revenue after cutting taxes was $17 trillion, a 40% increase. Name me five credible economists that say we have to raise taxes. the biggest deficit came from a democrat house and senate of 450 billion. Obama has will run four deficits of over $1 trillion a year. Go look at the budget office numbers.
@quinnrasta What!?!? Are you insane. Seriously not 1 thing you wrote here it accurate. Clinton left us with a surplus, Bush a deficit. By the time Bush left office our country was losing 750,000 jobs every month and we still have massive foreclosures.
@319jmp Don't waste your time arguing with these Neo-Con idiots, first of all they never deal in FACTS! They only repeat one liners they hear on Fox News & AM radio none of which are based in facts but meant to prey on their xenophobic fears. What these idiots don't realize is that the wealthy have had lower tax rates than anyone else for decades even under Obama so where are the jobs this is supposed to create? They should make tax cuts for the wealthy performance based. No Jobs No tax cut!!!
@Conquistador2112 My New Years Resolution was in fact to stop arguing with idiots. Fox News is not news, its a propaganda tool. Studies have found Fox viewers to be less informed than those do not even follow the news! You are correct that these idiots do not support any claims with facts and the majority of the wealthy DO NOT pay the top tax rate of 35% due to how the tax code is setup. GM for example payed 0 taxes last year. I like that: "No Jobs No Tax Cuts"
@Conquistador2112 BTW, if you happen to get in a heated, no win argument with these idiots on fiscal policy, advise them to take the Fiscal IQ test being pushed through Washington. Here is the link: h t t p : / / f i s c a l i q . n e t
@guy319j That's funny I've often promised my self I wouldn't argue with these idiots but sometimes I feel like I have to call them out on their bullshit so I know how you feel. It would be productive if they would deal in facts but they don't, no matter how conclusive the evidence. I find it utterly astounding that TRUTH doesn't seem to matter to them but what can you do. I'm not religious but like the saying goes the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
@BeBoBli What you meant to say was, that's the Republicans trick!!! The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist, the greatest trick the Republicans (Neo-Cons) ever pulled was convincing ignorant xenophobic uneducated middle class & poor white men & women they were looking out for them. Ron Paul is the only Republican that truly wants less government the rest are full of shit including Paul Ryan, Paul Ryan is just another bullshitting Neo-Con.
@Conquistador2112 I never understood this type of mentality... the unwillingness to learn anything new, take in new facts and form thoughts through logic and on reality. I think it emphasizes the underlining philosophy of this breed of Republicans that to read, to have formal education on topics, to be the so-called "elite", means to be part of a devil-like entity thats sole purpose is to control the people and the world.
@guy319j I agree, I've often times been corrected on facts and I don't dispute them even if I don't like the outcome because facts are facts and it's like I always say Gravity exists whether we believe in it or not. It's amazing they don't believe in evolution LOL!!! How can you dispute Science? Science is unbiased, real Science doesn't lie. You gotta laugh to keep from crying I guess.
@Conquistador2112 Right, like I have flown on a plane and get the jist of how an airplane works but I am not going to argue with a pilot or engineer on the mechanics of it. I think its easier for some to dispute the things they simply dont understand.
@Conquistador2112 Then there are those who simply chose to ignore evolution because they BELIEVE it contradicts their theory of god (notice i did not capitalize it) when in fact the bible itself mentions evolution. This proves that they CHOOSE not to find out the truth about beliefs they hold sacred. You know once we all believed the moon was made out of cheese and the world was flat -- thank [ ____ ] there are those who seek out facts!
@geoped1 First, I do not know the specific chapter/verse that mentions evolution and to be clear the Bible eludes to evolution in more than one section. For example however, the Bible discusses how god created 4 KINDS (flesh of man, flesh of bird, flesh of fish, flesh of beast) for which all other species evolved from. While I am not a believer as mentioned previously, the understanding of this does help justify the whole Noahs Arc story.
@guy319j To maintain, guy, that the Bible "alludes" to evolution is what is known in argumentation/debate as 'begging the question'. That applies as well to your statement, "...discusses how....species evolved from." And the 'evolution' of the centipede species... please help me here, guy, name the genus/species. I'm interested in finding out just what you are calling 'evolution'. Survival and adaptation, sure. A 'new' species...? Take care.
@geoped1 Not worth my time arguing with you or trying to fight through your poor grammar and unclear point -- guy. Yes, the centipede species I was referring to evolved, as in, adapted for survival. Just as it is well documented that lighter/white skinned people have formed an extra layer of skin over time, as compared to darker/black skinned people, which was an element of evolution/survival/adaptation when they migrated away from the sun and into colder regions. Just facts --guy.
@guy319j Well, having re-read your posts-something I invite an objective third party to do-I concede, Guy. You obviously have mastered grammar... your vocabulary is impressive. BTW... the Bible doesn't, in you words, 'elude'; the word you wanted was "allude". And, your statement "for which all other species evolved from"... remarkable. I'll wager you teach in the public school system.
@geoped1 The only reason I commented on your poor grammar was bc you felt the need to correct me on my spelling. Its quite curious why you felt the need to point it out twice. Anyway, its childish for me to argue childish things on a childish forum with a child. So, thank you for the job recomm. but Ill keep my current job as a business owner, allow my brilliant sister to continue heading public education reform and you should pick up a book (other than the bible) once in awhile. Guy.
you're not suggesting that the liberal socialist paradise really exists, if only we can censor and silence dissent, are you? fox news is a wondeful network and people watch it because it's not completely monopolized by left wing degenerates
@robocong7420 Your last 2 words explains everything I ever need to know about you -- childish and angry. More importantly it speculates that you prob do not have any Democrats in your fam, that you likely do not have any Democrat friends and that you have never worked in a company with diversified employees for which you had to learn to get along with and share ideas. Altogether this says you probably grew up in a small town, indoctrinated with these small minded positions.
the democrat concept of "diversity" is a rich white cumslut like nancy pelosi telling negro street trash and illegal aliens that "dem rich crackas got too much money!", while living in a gated all-white neighborhood and living the life of the 1%. shit. i'm 1/2 black myself, just like obama.. and even i know democrats will have to be killed in a civil war
@guy319j iv'e had demcorat i mean socialist friends. and the all dont know where their information comes from. like you. there are two kinds of socialists. the ones that only know what they are supposed to know that is false and the ones that truly hate everybody and the world.
@coobert15 All I have to say to that is that I have read some stupid things are here but this is probably by far the worst. Do you even think before you speak? How can I get in touch with Mom and Dad?... I think we need an intervention here.
@geoped1 Second, Evolution is no longer a so-called theory except for those to refuse to accept it and science. In fact, in the last few years mankind (i.e. us) have actually witnessed evolution first hand in a species of centipede.
@Conquistador2112 No matter what data, statistics or historical evidence we could ever present, it will never convince an ideological, close minded person from re-evaluating their hard-lined positions. Until propaganda spreading "news" sources such as Fox News, Limbaugh and the like disappear, a better/stronger educational system put in place across the nation and generations pass on, this is not going to change and it is useless to argue with these idiots.
@Conquistador2112 BTW, I too am not religious... the POSITIVE aspect of not being indoctrinated with it at a young age and being educated enough to realize how ridiculous it is. More importantly the mean spirited elements and political policies influenced by it.
@quinnrasta Economist Mike Kimel notes that the five former Democratic Presidents (Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy, and Harry S. Truman) all reduced public debt as a share of GDP, while the last four Republican Presidents (George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, and Gerald Ford) all oversaw an increase in the country’s indebtedness.
@319jmp Here is an article with quotes from others:
h t t p : / / m e d i a m a t t e r s . o r g /print/research/201108040020
it contains Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, Pulitzer Prize-winner and economics author David Cay Johnston, David Stockman a former Office of Management and Budget (OMB) director under President Reagan
@quinnrasta Mark Mellman, president of The Mellman Group, cited a number of conservative economists and economic advisers who said that some form of revenue increases should be part of a solution to lowering the deficit.
I would start with former Comptroller General of the United States and take the fisqal iq test being pushed through washinton.
h t t p : / / f is c a l i q . n e t /
Ben Stein (conservative economist)
You can check out NABE Economic Policy Survey which found majority of economists on panel felt there should be tax increased and spending cuts (although the majority does say it should be more spending cuts then tax increase, which i agree of).
When did Eddie Munster get into politics? What a dush.
EMARFNIAMOG 3 hours ago
Gee that Mathews is such a smart guy.....NOT !
jamo387 5 hours ago
Was Paul Ryan a character on Alvin and the Chipmunks?
cromagnan 3 days ago
Paul Ryan? Please! The guy is a Moron!
cromagnan 3 days ago
@cromagnan This coming from a kool-aid drinking liberal who would not know the truth if it bit him on the ass. Please child, get a life!
MultiMrfalcon 2 days ago
@MultiMrfalcon I'm a Republican from Texas you Asshole. Why is it that when anyone criticizes a Republican for making stupid remarks, it is assumed the person is a Liberal? I have been angry with the GOP since Bush Sr. Said, "Read my lips, No New Taxes", then he taxed us anyway. Bush JR and the other idiots drove the party into the ground. Have you not been watching the debates? The entire party along with Boehner have cost ME alot of MONEY and caused greif for this nation. Grow a BRAIN!
cromagnan 2 days ago
@cromagnan No, you sound more like an angry liberal who wants to paint himself as an angry conservative. If it smells like dog shit and sounds like dog shit, it is dog shit. You be dog shit. Vote liberal and drink the kool-aid.
MultiMrfalcon 2 days ago
@MultiMrfalcon The only way Obama could have won the election was for quite a large number of Republicans to vote for him. I am one of many and you have a small brain.
cromagnan 1 day ago
@cromagnan He won because of the independents you fucking moron. He will lose for the same reason you fucking moron. One thing is consistent in your posts. You are a fucking moron and a liberal pretending he once was a conservative. Dumbass.
MultiMrfalcon 1 day ago
@joeblackakareaper
I did some reading...
Bush- 4.9 trillion in 8 years
Obama- 4.6 trillion in 3 YEARS.... This = 9.2 trillion in 6 years since hes gonna be reelected.
How bout you turn off MSNBC and get off media matters and so some real research.
crispycob 6 days ago
You guys who believe the Republican crap should do a little more reading and less watching FOX news . Do a search on GOOGLE for which party over the years ran up the most debt , you will see that it's the Republicans my a wide margin . Then ask yourself this simple question , do you want the rich to pay for their share of all this debt they ran up , or do you want it left for your children and grand children . Don't believe what they say , believe what they DO ! You're getting suckered boys .
joeblackakareaper 1 week ago
@joeblackakareaper Actually, if you look up the statistics from the IRS and do some simple math, it doesn't matter how much the rich pay - you can 100% of the income of every single millionare and billionare in the entire nation for President Obama's entire third year, and it wouldn't even pay for the brand new deficit of that third year. And since Obama has proposed more spending since any president since the founding, I think the question on who spent the most is clear.
eebaumgartnerful1 5 days ago
@joeblackakareaper We did, and oh yes, lets see here, after Bush lost the house and senate in 2005 midterm, soon the economy changed from improving to worsening, GDP to debt ratio, unemployment rate, went from improving to worsening, the only thing Bush was able to do was keep us safe,,, until Obama took over. Who ran up the debt? liberal policy. Now we are looking at you, ,, a sucker. Seriously, please do more research, not all republicans are conservatives either.
weseyedwalk 4 days ago
@joeblackakareaper Sounds like you need to quit watching CNN and MSNBC religiously and quit being told how to feel. Think for yourself once, silly liberal. Every news station has their agenda, but at least Fox is willing to let liberals work on their station and have their own shows. Not to mention, Stossel and O'Reilly hardly agree on anything. MSNBC is just fast-paced interruptions on the interviewee, and personal attacks when the interviewee says something intelligent and correct.
AntiFox08 1 day ago
Oh God...
Nubias 1 week ago
why does modern American journalism consist only of combativeness, cutting off the interviewee before a complete answer is given, and heavy personal bias? I can get that at a family reunion.
irishmermaid4 1 week ago 7
@irishmermaid4 Haha that made me laugh... Too true.
paintballFR3AK8 1 week ago
@paintballFR3AK8 Thanks, Paint! Keep smilin'!
irishmermaid4 6 days ago
We increased taxes on the super-rich to pay for the Rev War & the War of 1812 & the Civil War & the 1st WW & the 2nd WW & the Korean War & the Vietnam War!
But we LOWERED taxes on the super-rich during the Iraq War so they pay an income tax rate 1/2 that of the middle-class & ran up a massive debt!
And Ryan wants to lower the taxes on the super-rich even more!
THIS IS TOTALLY INSANE!
DillonDee1 1 week ago
So the wealthy business owners had their taxes cut as recently as 2003 and they created millions of jobs, right? Oh wait, they did'nt. Bush's job creation was one of the worst in presidential history. So here's the question: the wealthy have had their taxes reduced to levels not seen since the 50's for aprox the last 10 years-so WHERE ARE THE JOBS????
jaxyanks 1 week ago
@jaxyanks Idiot. When Bush cut taxes, the economy was already at 5% unemployment. Of course there would've been piss poor job creation. But from 2004 to 2007unemployment averaged at 4.6%. Pretty damn good when compared to other presidents. Revenues also increased after the 2003 tax break,which got us out of the 9/11 recession. As for the jobs, take an econ class kid. Current tax rates are ineffective when a recession hits. Tax cuts 10 years ago won't help us now. Idiot.
albertsamerica2020 1 week ago
@albertsamerica2020
According to current logic, all those numbers are false.
spacer125 1 week ago
@spacer125 If you want I can send you the CBO sources, the BEA sources, and the BLS sources from the government to make you realize how wrong you are.
albertsamerica2020 1 week ago
@albertsamerica2020 Im not disputing them.
i've seen the numbers and i believe them, but according to most conservatives, any number they see on the internet is false.
spacer125 1 week ago
@jaxyanks Key difference in the 50's there was American pride and people bought products made by our hands, so the dollar was protected, today the free market allows us to destroy ourselves out of lack of fundamental principles on who we buy from like China. Bush did create a lot of jobs, but his hands were tied after the end of 2005, when the recession started, so you can't blame him, you have to blame those who took over at that time. liberals
weseyedwalk 4 days ago
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Paul Ryan makes the half-truth claim that discretionary spending increased by 84%. He doesn't state that part of the Obama stimulus package included $308 billion in discretionary spending.
What's lost in Ryan's remark is that the Obama stimulus package was needed to kick start the economy, which went belly-up during Bush's presidency. Some economists argue stimulus package was too small.
Damn, Paul Ryan is as good as they come for politicians that can twist the truth to suit his own agenda.
Tessasdadd0 2 weeks ago
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Tessasdadd0 2 weeks ago
Paul Ryan has the creepiest eyes
dbistrumalot 2 weeks ago
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Tessasdadd0 2 weeks ago
@Tessasdadd0
yes, i invented the race card. your logic is flawless!
robocong7420 2 weeks ago
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@robocong7420 Where did I say you invented the race card? Yeah, I didn't think so. Apparently improving your reading comprehension isn't on your bucket list.
Timidly attempted, but epically failed :)
Tessasdadd0 2 weeks ago
It would also be nice if you didn't edit out the cuts that Ryan is proposing. I'm not saying I oppose those cuts, but you should have allowed them to play out in the video, for completeness, and intellectual honesty. Why? Because those cuts are to things like delaying retirement to 67 years old. And cuts to Medicare and other benefits associated with retirement safety nets. Right or wrong, these types of cuts are things that most Americans aren't in favor of.
Tessasdadd0 2 weeks ago
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@FirstPatriots Nice editing :)
But sure, tax breaks and post 9/11 wars costing between "$3.7 trillion and $4.4 trillion" (Brown University "Cost of War" research project) were only a small part of our current fiscal problems. Let's not forget Bush's prescription drug bill, which cost the taxpayers $1.2 trillion.
The most you can say is that Paul Ryan, like all seasoned politicians, is good at spinning a yarn, and cherry picking facts.
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Tessasdadd0 2 weeks ago
Chris Matthews is every guests fuck toy.
pjicleanair420 2 weeks ago
Paul Ryan is a complete hypocrite. He professes to care about his elderly constituents while fighting to swap their medicare with a voucher system that won't even begin to cover their health care. Laissez-faire / Randian capitalism brought us the Great Depression. Ryan is a corporate whore of the first order and an embarassment to the state of Wisconsin.
judeseamus 2 weeks ago
@judeseamus Ayn Rand didn't even move to the US until 1929, so I don't think the adjective "Randian" really applies there. Really though, to call the economic period before the Depression "laissez faire" isn't accurate at all. How is a central bank system laissez faire?
sethisawesome 2 weeks ago
@sethisawesome It was a period of time with little or no commercial regulations. How is this not laissez fair?
judeseamus 1 week ago
@judeseamus I read your comment and you remind me why liberals are such fucking idiots. Keep up the good work!
MultiMrfalcon 2 weeks ago
@MultiMrfalcon I see. You really showed me how you believe that??????? and ?????????? are the reason that ?????????? are creating ?????? in our economy. Fucking idiot? At least have point.
judeseamus 1 week ago
@judeseamus Any rationale point, any common sense approach would go over your fucking head. You have neither the intellect nor the common sense to understand how things work in the economy or the world. To debate you is to debate a child. The next time I give a homeless person my change I will think of you. OUT!
MultiMrfalcon 1 week ago
Funny how that works...percentage of GDP is more important to take into account, NOT overall money. We have more money than any country in the world...so we spend more than any on defense. If we didn't, we couldn't keep being as successful as we are. If someone has a bigger stick, they will take your treasure.
Playit87 3 weeks ago
cuts i can think of off the top of my head:
-make medicare only for poor seniors, and raise the retirement age. why should struggling workers have to pay for rich seniors that don't do anything? it's insanity.
-make social security only for poor seniors (and raise the retirement age). same reasoning.
-find massive defense cuts. we spend about as much as the rest of the world combined. anyone can see that this is too much.
UltraProle21 3 weeks ago
@UltraProle21 Until China steals all our technology, builds more than we have and is able to control the world...
Playit87 3 weeks ago
@UltraProle21 How much of our GDP is defense spending?
Playit87 3 weeks ago
@bassnashville
2010 defense spending was 4.7% of US GDP. That didn't even land the US in the top ten countries defense spending/GDP.
bassnashville 3 weeks ago
@bassnashville so what? it wouldn't matter if it's 1% of GDP. we don't need to spend that much money. what's the point of spending as much as the rest of the world? especially when when many of the top spenders are our allies. roughtly 20% of the federal budget is defense spending. that's the percentage we need to look at. by your logic, medicare and medicaid combined only comprise about 5% of GDP, therefore, we shouldn't cut them. nice reasoning.
UltraProle21 3 weeks ago
@UltraProle21 % of GDP is exactly how you measure the spending of a country. The economy IS the GDP. The % of "budget" is arbitrary. GDP is a hard number of the actual amount of money we have. So it is more important to the economy how much of the GDP is being spent. As for the medicare and medicaid comment, no one is arguing that those programs should be cut. The only real argument about any individual welfare that I've heard is that they need reform. Both Dems and Reps have argued this.
EffieReal 3 weeks ago
@EffieReal lol "reform" means cost reduction measures. but why don't they just look at the fact that these programs are a small % of GDP and leave it alone? because there's more $ being spent on them than is necessary, period. same with defense. also, i can clearly point to many more examples: discretionary spending is a smaller % of GDP than defense, therefore, it shouldn't be cut? c'mon. rich countries can afford to have a smaller % of GDP used for necessary gov't services.
UltraProle21 3 weeks ago
@UltraProle21 I understand what you mean, but again, I don't think anyone is saying that we "can't afford to have a smaller % of GDP...services". I just think that there is a legitimate harm to people who are trapped in a system that encourages the most negative and character-destroying traits. There is a huge amount of gaming the system, people are encouraged to lie (even by the welfare workers), have to hide income, acquire bad habits and see no reason to improve. It's really a sad picture.
EffieReal 3 weeks ago
@EffieReal i'm not sure what you're talking about. i thought we were talking about defense cuts...
UltraProle21 3 weeks ago
@UltraProle21 You brought up medicare and medicaid. I responded to your point. You responded to "reform". I responded to that. So, no, we were not entirely talking about defense cuts.
EffieReal 3 weeks ago
@bassnashville Yep, but that does not include all military spending and foreign aid. The total military industrial complex is probably up to 10-20% of the GDP.
Qobilaktika 3 weeks ago
@Qobilaktika Total for Homeland Security, Defense and Overseas Contingency Operations (wars) was 19.7% in 2011. Entitlement spending for medicare, medicade, social security and miscellaneous welfare programs such as food stamps was 60.9% and it's growing everyday. We're borrowing 43 cents of every dollar spent so the interest on said borrowed money was more in 2011 than Homeland Security and the wars combined. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where this is going...
LadybugsTX 2 weeks ago
So Paul Ryan talks and the top comments are racist slurs. I wish I found that surprising.
sfjeff1089 3 weeks ago
I came here for intelligent economic debate... I haven't found a comment to reply to yet.
NolanBrooks22694 3 weeks ago
@NolanBrooks22694 Well, spending less is what people are supposed to do when they run up debt. But that is only because they can't print money like our 'look out for the little guy' government does. It's like telling someone who can't pay their debt, "Just make more money, then you can pay off more of your debt. You don't need to stop spending." Debate.
Playit87 3 weeks ago
@NolanBrooks22694 the persons in the video are more politicians than economists. can't be a doctor and a patient at once.
voxtelnismo 3 weeks ago
Ryan is a bought and paid for corporate whore. You asshole faux conservatives are simply dupes.
policechaser 3 weeks ago
@policechaser Please explain.
Playit87 3 weeks ago
@Playit87 If you need an explaination, you're not up on current affairs and you might want to stop getting your talking points from oxyRush and his crew of assholes.
policechaser 3 weeks ago
@policechaser How is he bought and paid for? What money has he taken? I don't listen to Rush/Hannity/O'Reilly or any of those types. I listen to Milton Friedman and Henry Hazlitt. Rep. Ryan is taking steps in the right direction.
Playit87 3 weeks ago
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Chris Matthews is a load that should have been swallowed
MrJonny333031 3 weeks ago
People watch MSNBC?
lulz
kuhioffxi 1 month ago
Chris is an idiot!
newnoggin2 1 month ago
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When Obama wins his second term in November, I cant wait to see how you righty republican tea party losers react to losing again, it feels so good to be on a winning side, its so funny how you losers have your funny reality show and your stupid un-electable rascist canidates. Enjoy loosing to the middle class and OBAMA in November!
MrRockySullivan1 1 month ago
So let me get this straight,,,,Media Matters,Huffpost,Msnbc,Cnn,,New York Times,,,are factual and unbiased??? ,,,,LOL
MrRealpainter 1 month ago
@MrRealpainter
What are you defending, exactly?
BeBoBli 1 month ago
Paul Ryan has beautiful hair! I want to have hair like his. :-)
zucchini2007 1 month ago
I bet that little tongue lecture gave Chris the shits.
micsc50 1 month ago
Paul Ryan ftw. Liberal Chris Mathews couldn't do math.
pererapnimesh 1 month ago
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blahthethird 1 month ago
@blahthethird Yes I do & in the dictionary it has Paul Ryans picture next to the definition you idiot!!! Funny how Neo-Cons like Paul Ryan & others try to portray black people & other minorities as a drain on the system because of welfare when it is a very well known fact that there are by far more white people on welfare, food stamps & all other entitlement programs so why do Neo-Cons try to pawn that off on minorities if they're not fascist or at the very least racist? Yet they never admit it!
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
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blahthethird 1 month ago
@blahthethird Peculiar that you removed your comment you chicken shit!!! How can minorities be a drain on the system if there are more whites on entitlement programs including welfare & food stamps than all other minorities combined!!! Look it up dumb fuck!!! It's amazing you Neo-Con fascists could have God descend down from the heavens & point the truth out to you & still not believe it. Funny how you defend Ryan on being a fascist & you proved by your comments that you're one yourself. LOL!!!
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
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blahthethird 1 month ago
@blahthethird I said there are more whites on weflare & food stamps you idiot!!! I also said look it up! Why don't you do some research & see who's really sucking the system dry? It wouldn't even be a racial issue if idiots like you didn't stereo type blacks as a drain on the system when nothing could be further from the truth. Why don't you do yourself a favor, quit watching Fox News & get a lobotomy!!! Being that someone keeps removing my comments & you're a FUCK HEAD, I'm done with this. GR!!
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 Sooooo, the fact that whites are 70% of the population and blacks are 11.6% doesn't make a difference. 6.5 times as many whites in the country yet whites ate 2.2 times as likely to be using those gov't funds. OOPS. Same when you look at the crime stats. 54% of crime is committed by blacks and 14% by whites. Facts are not racist, you are racist.
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@svvmichael1 I wasn't disputing the % of whites vs blacks in the Population you IDIOT! I was simply pointing out a FACT that there are more whites on welfare & food stamps than blacks so to blame blacks is ludicrous & welfare reform shouldn't be a racial issue but a social issue. In addition the majority of blacks on welfare are in the southeast where their population is higher so your comparison is hardly fair & it's beside the point anyway unless you inject race into it which only racists do!
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 1) I agree that race shouldn't be used by the GOVERNMENT. But racists like you always inject race into these matters. It isn't racist to cite stats, unless you lie...as you did. Blacks account for nearly 40% of all drug use (~38-39%), hispanics around 30% and whites about 30%. Stop lying. 2) I never attacked minorities, they do that on their own, and fools like you do it too.3) If you need me to list sites with accurate stats let me know, so you can stop lying
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@svvmichael1 Where did you get your stats from Fox News AM Radio? I got bad news for you, you're the one lying you ignorant fuck!!! Perhaps you're too stupid to know the difference & you're not actually lying but you believe these inaccurate stats (lies). Look it up idiot!!! God himself could point the truth out to you but if it didn't support your xenophobic fears you wouldn't believe it. I don't wast time debating with Neo-Cons that repeat fox news one liners. I'm done with you, Good Riddance!
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 Translation: I lost because you looked up my lies and found me to be an idiot.
Cool story bro. Next time don't lie. I'll own you every time.
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@svvmichael1 Hey you! I found you! Want to give me proof about Obama's grades? Remember how you never answered me because you don't want to face the music? Fucking idiot.
deutschland08fn 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn Ummm, I answered you 4 times you fucking liar. The debate is over and you lost. Now check youtube's TOS. Trolling someone to another page is a bannable offense. Bye idiot.
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@svvmichael1 Oh, I'm the liar? You have yet to give me a specific source, and instead call me names. I'm still waiting.
deutschland08fn 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn gave you the souce, asked and answered. I am going to report you for trolling if you troll me one more time you lying misanthrope.
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@svvmichael1 False. You did not give me one single source. You named a few prominent newspapers and magazines, none of which had any information on Obama's grades, and then when I called you out on that you called me names and suggested that I google it. U mad, bro?
deutschland08fn 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn False, I gave you all the info to find out the same info i posted. I have just reported you for trolling. Look at TOS, it is a bannable offense.
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@svvmichael1 Okay... Wanna give me that "info" again? Because you definitely never game me tangible proof. Also, I am not trolling you because I didn't track you to this thread. I came upon this video separately and laughed when I saw you entangled in arguments with people who have brains.
deutschland08fn 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn I listed his EXACT CLASS SCHEDULE. Easy to find that, bye now troll. You are a racist, misanthropic little troll who'll never amount to anything, so you troll youtube. LOL>
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@svvmichael1 Give me a source. Enough with the bullshit. Be a fucking man.
deutschland08fn 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn This guy's (svvmichael1) an idiot, I got into a similar debate with him about welfare, food stamps & crime stats on blacks convicted for drug offenses. In his racist tiny world these are all the result of worthless lazy black people. I nailed him the same way you did because his stats are way off but instead of posting his sources (Fox News/AM Radio) he tries to call me a liar & keeps saying he won LOL!!! There's no point in trying to show him facts, he's an uneducated fool.
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 Oh yeah I know. I got into a long argument once and he constantly called me names and cited fallacious "sources."
deutschland08fn 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn Yeah, he's obviously got a massive inferiority complex, I finally told him I was done with him because he didn't deal in facts and just regurgitated fox news & AM radio one liners but he still had to respond trying to bait me into a tit for tat to get the last word. I realized the shit would never end because he's fucking loony LOL!!!
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 Yeah I love how he thinks that he gave me a source.
deutschland08fn 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn This guy's out of his mind. He'll never admit it now matter how much proof is present to him, besides why the fuck does he care what kind of grades Obama got anyway? Did he question George Bush's grades? If Obama's name was Will Smith these Neo-Con idiots would have never questioned his birth certificate. Every time they question Obama being Socialist, Not born here or being Muslim (which shouldn't matter) they waste precious time that they could be legitimately criticizing him.
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn I'm not happy with Obama's job as the President but I can't stand these racist assholes spewing their propaganda & then when you call them out on being racist all they can come up with is your a racist LOL!!! That's insane, they act like racism doesn't exist & then when you catch them being racist & call them out on it they call you racist. I would hate to be one of these idiots. There are plenty of real shortcomings about Obama to be making up or perpetuating lies about him.
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 Exactly. This dude is a joke and refuses to admit the truth.
deutschland08fn 1 month ago
@deutschland08fn I gave you the sources. You have been an ignorant fool about it. Obama is going to lose badly. It is a given. He'll go down as the worst president in history as he has nearly destroyed the economy. He just threw away 50,000 jobs and guaranteed an increase of 20-40% in gas prices. You 2 fuckheads don't understand economics or history. I already CRUSHED you so bad on another page on economics that you ran away for weeks.
svvmichael1 1 month ago
m@svvmichael1 Obama nearly destroyed the economy? Are you so dumb that you can't figure out that he inherited all his problems from Bush? You think Obama suddenly turned the economy upside down? No president is capable of that, except a republican who entices war so his rich friends can get richer, and so can he, because of kickbacks, etc. and don't tell me you don't believe that's true. If so, you are also a liar, which is not surprising, considering who you are backing. Shame on you!
leokatgirl 1 month ago
@leokatgirl You are wong on every point. 1) Obama is the biggest hypocrit. He tries to force us into a failing socialist scheme, while he and his friends practice Crony Capitalism. 2) The economic failings are not from Bush. Yes the wars had a negative effect, but the real reason for the collapse was the 1977 CRA from Carte, and especially the Clinton expansions of it in '93 and '96. It forced banks to increase their portfolio of low-income/bad credit loans over 25%...
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@leokatgirl ...that created a massive demand for homes, which skyrocketed the prices. Then, SURPRISE, those bad credit people stopped paying, and since 15-20% defaulted (instead of the historical 1.7%-3% when loans were to good-credit people w/ 10%-20% down) it collapsed the system. On top of that Fannie/Freddie had leveraged themselve down to 3% of assets. Franklin Raines was called to congress by republicans who tried to fix this, but Democrats who got massive campaign money...
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@leokatgirl ...from Fannie/Freddie protected him. Raines, BTW, is a major confidante of Obama, and he raped Fannie for over $100 million WHILE Fannie was collapsing. Now, I have pointed out specific reasons why the collapse happened (and you can find the video of Raines to Congress on youtude...and a video where Bill Clinto admits the collapse is the fault of Democrats), and you can't find specific reasons it is republican's fault. Bye now.
svvmichael1 1 month ago
@svvmichael1 BTW, in reference to your crime stats which had nothing to do with my comments but I know you Neo-Cons can't help but find something to attack minorities on, a majority of blacks incarcerated are for drugs. Only 14% of the drug consumption is by blacks yet closer to 60% of people in prison for drugs are black. Do the math!!! If there's racism in America it's clearly in our justice system. Bottom line is these issues should be dealt with as problems with welfare & crime not race.
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
Dont say he took Mathews to school than edit the clip. your credibility is shot.
YoungTon22 1 month ago
There are only a small handful of what I consider "true conservatives" in the Congress. Paul Ryan is definitely one of them. The others are Jim DeMint, Ron Paul, and possibly Michelle Bachmann.
mikebri527 1 month ago 2
@mikebri527 Good list. Rand Paul is a hero, too.
SKUSMC 1 month ago
@SKUSMC Oops! Forgot about him. Thanks!
mikebri527 1 month ago
@mikebri527 Ug, not Bachmann. Actually, any of the hawkish, warmongering politicians are not conservative at all. They should adhere to the tenets of Senator Robert Taft (who was called "Mr. Republican" in his day) - he was opposed to all forms of large government, be it welfare or warfare. He opposed American involvement in the Korean War, NATO, The United Nations, and WWII until we were attacked. A true conservative is a non-interventionist, plain and simple.
reefergoat 1 month ago
@reefergoat I agree with you 100%. It's a shame that more people don't realize this. Whenever I talk to other "conservatives" about a non-interventionist foreign policy I get ridiculed. Yet they have no problem speaking out about the "welfare" state proposed by the left but defend the "warfare" state proposed by the right. Completely hypocritical to me and just as much in support of big govn't as the democrats and liberals. Pitiful don't you think?
mikebri527 1 month ago
@mikebri527 I agree. I just don't understand how a movement can espouse small government tenets and yet not be willing to cut a dime from one of our biggest government expenditures - the military. It's not even truly defense spending, it's expansionist, offense spending. Additionally, war always gives the government an incentive to strip away individual liberty in the name of national security, further increasing the intrusive size of government.
reefergoat 1 month ago
Conservatives making liberals look foolish is so easy. Like taking candy from a baby.
idontknow1562 1 month ago
....what everyone of these talking heads like Matthews fail to understand apparently is that there is almost a trillion dollars of "unspent" monies from TARP and the Porkulous just sitting in an Owebama slush fund. Yet he wants another Son of Porkulous. There's no end to this fools ability to spend and tax and he has no plans what-so-ever of reducing the deficit by rescending it..
55slice 1 month ago
PAUL RYAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!!
FuturePrez665 1 month ago
And why isn't this man running for president?
YeshuaisLord100 1 month ago
I hoping this guy would run for POTUS, now I hope he at least takes the Vice POTUS
razorx3113 1 month ago
Chris sucks @ math
emaleroland 1 month ago
RON PAUL/PAUL RYAN 2012
themistermand 1 month ago
Chris Mathews is a cocksucker.
JawsJaws 1 month ago
New Years Resolution - to no longer argue with idiots and close minded people, who refuse to accept facts for facts, and data for data. This country has a far way to go in intellect and common sense and I dont think there is enough good people to educate these irrational beings.
319jmp 1 month ago
If I was President, my first 30 days will be spent sitting Republicans in a giant room and proving to them how each of there talking points, rhetoric, ideology are completely non-factual and have no historical evidence. I believe Obamas second term (since he will be re-elected) must be spent tackling ideology vs policy, otherwise nothing important will ever get done.
319jmp 1 month ago
If anyone wants to know the truth about Obama vs Bush spending, check out this chart from CBO:
h t t p : / / e z k o o l . c o m / 2011 / 07 / two-potus-spending-2/
Lets also recognize that Bush was working with a surplus and Obama was getting us out of a deficit and recession.
319jmp 1 month ago
@319jmp Bush left obama with an economy 19% higher than what he received. Clintons total federal revenue was about $12 trillion bush's federal tax revenue after cutting taxes was $17 trillion, a 40% increase. Name me five credible economists that say we have to raise taxes. the biggest deficit came from a democrat house and senate of 450 billion. Obama has will run four deficits of over $1 trillion a year. Go look at the budget office numbers.
quinnrasta 1 month ago
@quinnrasta What!?!? Are you insane. Seriously not 1 thing you wrote here it accurate. Clinton left us with a surplus, Bush a deficit. By the time Bush left office our country was losing 750,000 jobs every month and we still have massive foreclosures.
319jmp 1 month ago
@319jmp Don't waste your time arguing with these Neo-Con idiots, first of all they never deal in FACTS! They only repeat one liners they hear on Fox News & AM radio none of which are based in facts but meant to prey on their xenophobic fears. What these idiots don't realize is that the wealthy have had lower tax rates than anyone else for decades even under Obama so where are the jobs this is supposed to create? They should make tax cuts for the wealthy performance based. No Jobs No tax cut!!!
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 My New Years Resolution was in fact to stop arguing with idiots. Fox News is not news, its a propaganda tool. Studies have found Fox viewers to be less informed than those do not even follow the news! You are correct that these idiots do not support any claims with facts and the majority of the wealthy DO NOT pay the top tax rate of 35% due to how the tax code is setup. GM for example payed 0 taxes last year. I like that: "No Jobs No Tax Cuts"
guy319j 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 BTW, if you happen to get in a heated, no win argument with these idiots on fiscal policy, advise them to take the Fiscal IQ test being pushed through Washington. Here is the link: h t t p : / / f i s c a l i q . n e t
guy319j 1 month ago
@guy319j Thanks, I'll check it out.
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@guy319j That's funny I've often promised my self I wouldn't argue with these idiots but sometimes I feel like I have to call them out on their bullshit so I know how you feel. It would be productive if they would deal in facts but they don't, no matter how conclusive the evidence. I find it utterly astounding that TRUTH doesn't seem to matter to them but what can you do. I'm not religious but like the saying goes the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112
No, that's the leprechaun's trick.
BeBoBli 1 month ago
@BeBoBli What you meant to say was, that's the Republicans trick!!! The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist, the greatest trick the Republicans (Neo-Cons) ever pulled was convincing ignorant xenophobic uneducated middle class & poor white men & women they were looking out for them. Ron Paul is the only Republican that truly wants less government the rest are full of shit including Paul Ryan, Paul Ryan is just another bullshitting Neo-Con.
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112
Yes, I'm aware that trickle down economics are fallacious by design.
BeBoBli 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 I never understood this type of mentality... the unwillingness to learn anything new, take in new facts and form thoughts through logic and on reality. I think it emphasizes the underlining philosophy of this breed of Republicans that to read, to have formal education on topics, to be the so-called "elite", means to be part of a devil-like entity thats sole purpose is to control the people and the world.
guy319j 1 month ago
@guy319j I agree, I've often times been corrected on facts and I don't dispute them even if I don't like the outcome because facts are facts and it's like I always say Gravity exists whether we believe in it or not. It's amazing they don't believe in evolution LOL!!! How can you dispute Science? Science is unbiased, real Science doesn't lie. You gotta laugh to keep from crying I guess.
Conquistador2112 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 Right, like I have flown on a plane and get the jist of how an airplane works but I am not going to argue with a pilot or engineer on the mechanics of it. I think its easier for some to dispute the things they simply dont understand.
guy319j 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 Then there are those who simply chose to ignore evolution because they BELIEVE it contradicts their theory of god (notice i did not capitalize it) when in fact the bible itself mentions evolution. This proves that they CHOOSE not to find out the truth about beliefs they hold sacred. You know once we all believed the moon was made out of cheese and the world was flat -- thank [ ____ ] there are those who seek out facts!
guy319j 1 month ago
@guy319j Would you please tell me the chapter/verse in which I can find the theory of evolution in the Bible?
geoped1 1 month ago
@geoped1 First, I do not know the specific chapter/verse that mentions evolution and to be clear the Bible eludes to evolution in more than one section. For example however, the Bible discusses how god created 4 KINDS (flesh of man, flesh of bird, flesh of fish, flesh of beast) for which all other species evolved from. While I am not a believer as mentioned previously, the understanding of this does help justify the whole Noahs Arc story.
guy319j 1 month ago
@guy319j To maintain, guy, that the Bible "alludes" to evolution is what is known in argumentation/debate as 'begging the question'. That applies as well to your statement, "...discusses how....species evolved from." And the 'evolution' of the centipede species... please help me here, guy, name the genus/species. I'm interested in finding out just what you are calling 'evolution'. Survival and adaptation, sure. A 'new' species...? Take care.
geoped1 1 month ago
@geoped1 Not worth my time arguing with you or trying to fight through your poor grammar and unclear point -- guy. Yes, the centipede species I was referring to evolved, as in, adapted for survival. Just as it is well documented that lighter/white skinned people have formed an extra layer of skin over time, as compared to darker/black skinned people, which was an element of evolution/survival/adaptation when they migrated away from the sun and into colder regions. Just facts --guy.
guy319j 1 month ago
@guy319j Well, having re-read your posts-something I invite an objective third party to do-I concede, Guy. You obviously have mastered grammar... your vocabulary is impressive. BTW... the Bible doesn't, in you words, 'elude'; the word you wanted was "allude". And, your statement "for which all other species evolved from"... remarkable. I'll wager you teach in the public school system.
geoped1 1 month ago
@geoped1 The only reason I commented on your poor grammar was bc you felt the need to correct me on my spelling. Its quite curious why you felt the need to point it out twice. Anyway, its childish for me to argue childish things on a childish forum with a child. So, thank you for the job recomm. but Ill keep my current job as a business owner, allow my brilliant sister to continue heading public education reform and you should pick up a book (other than the bible) once in awhile. Guy.
guy319j 1 month ago
@guy319j
you're not suggesting that the liberal socialist paradise really exists, if only we can censor and silence dissent, are you? fox news is a wondeful network and people watch it because it's not completely monopolized by left wing degenerates
robocong7420 1 month ago
@robocong7420 Beyond delusional.
guy319j 1 month ago
@guy319j
yes, left wing networks like msnbc (more snotty nonsense by chicks) are beyond delusional. they are psychotic. fuck democrats
robocong7420 1 month ago
@robocong7420 Your last 2 words explains everything I ever need to know about you -- childish and angry. More importantly it speculates that you prob do not have any Democrats in your fam, that you likely do not have any Democrat friends and that you have never worked in a company with diversified employees for which you had to learn to get along with and share ideas. Altogether this says you probably grew up in a small town, indoctrinated with these small minded positions.
guy319j 1 month ago
@guy319j
the democrat concept of "diversity" is a rich white cumslut like nancy pelosi telling negro street trash and illegal aliens that "dem rich crackas got too much money!", while living in a gated all-white neighborhood and living the life of the 1%. shit. i'm 1/2 black myself, just like obama.. and even i know democrats will have to be killed in a civil war
robocong7420 1 month ago 16
@robocong7420
relax my crackhead friend
souljaboyisbad 3 weeks ago
@souljaboyisbad
come over here and let your anal muscles relax on my cock
robocong7420 3 weeks ago
@robocong7420 FINALLY someone with a brain when it comes to politics on the internet.
batista9008 2 weeks ago
@robocong7420 We got your back, we will get them at the polls bro. kick out the liberals Mexican/native American here.
weseyedwalk 4 days ago
@guy319j democrats i mean socialists = shit !
end of story fucks !
coobert15 1 month ago
@guy319j iv'e had demcorat i mean socialist friends. and the all dont know where their information comes from. like you. there are two kinds of socialists. the ones that only know what they are supposed to know that is false and the ones that truly hate everybody and the world.
coobert15 1 month ago
@coobert15 All I have to say to that is that I have read some stupid things are here but this is probably by far the worst. Do you even think before you speak? How can I get in touch with Mom and Dad?... I think we need an intervention here.
guy319j 1 month ago
@geoped1 Second, Evolution is no longer a so-called theory except for those to refuse to accept it and science. In fact, in the last few years mankind (i.e. us) have actually witnessed evolution first hand in a species of centipede.
guy319j 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 No matter what data, statistics or historical evidence we could ever present, it will never convince an ideological, close minded person from re-evaluating their hard-lined positions. Until propaganda spreading "news" sources such as Fox News, Limbaugh and the like disappear, a better/stronger educational system put in place across the nation and generations pass on, this is not going to change and it is useless to argue with these idiots.
guy319j 1 month ago
@Conquistador2112 BTW, I too am not religious... the POSITIVE aspect of not being indoctrinated with it at a young age and being educated enough to realize how ridiculous it is. More importantly the mean spirited elements and political policies influenced by it.
guy319j 1 month ago
@quinnrasta Economist Mike Kimel notes that the five former Democratic Presidents (Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy, and Harry S. Truman) all reduced public debt as a share of GDP, while the last four Republican Presidents (George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, and Gerald Ford) all oversaw an increase in the country’s indebtedness.
319jmp 1 month ago
@319jmp Here is an article with quotes from others:
h t t p : / / m e d i a m a t t e r s . o r g /print/research/201108040020
it contains Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, Pulitzer Prize-winner and economics author David Cay Johnston, David Stockman a former Office of Management and Budget (OMB) director under President Reagan
319jmp 1 month ago
@quinnrasta Mark Mellman, president of The Mellman Group, cited a number of conservative economists and economic advisers who said that some form of revenue increases should be part of a solution to lowering the deficit.
319jmp 1 month ago
@quinnrasta Martin Feldstein, an adviser to President Ronald Reagan, and Henry M. Paulson Jr., Treasury secretary to President George W. Bush
319jmp 1 month ago
@quinnrasta I did look at cBO #s:
h t t p : / / e z k o o l . c o m / 2011/07/two-potus-spending-2/
319jmp 1 month ago
@quinnrasta Here is 5:
I would start with former Comptroller General of the United States and take the fisqal iq test being pushed through washinton.
h t t p : / / f is c a l i q . n e t /
Ben Stein (conservative economist)
You can check out NABE Economic Policy Survey which found majority of economists on panel felt there should be tax increased and spending cuts (although the majority does say it should be more spending cuts then tax increase, which i agree of).
319jmp 1 month ago