the problem is that most jews don't go to torah for guidance but istead use talmud( a book written by a man ) as their authoritative book and their laws are based on talmud's directives and not torah. AND U ARE WRONG , Quran is preserved in original language .. the translations are never considered as Quran but more like as making life easier for those who don't understand the arabic language.. but to know what's in it, we only refer to the arabic language in order to clarify things...
u are wrong cuz people at the time of other prophets didn't have the capacity to understand and obey a complete guidance from God... religion was brought to man little by little until its completion by the last prophet ( Mohammad ) pbuh. humans were like kids starting school.. u never go on to teach a kid materials from university but u start with very basic knowledge until the kid is mature enough to understand the rest..
Musa (Peace Be Upon Him) ----Isa (PBUH)---- Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him)
You need 2 acknowledge all the Messengers along with their respected message. Torah - Gospel - Qur'aan Watching the big picture vs picking at the puzzle pieces we can better understand the Truth.
muslims dont think that the world was in darkness for all that was before Muhammad peace be upon him. The Quran even says that the jews and christians are not all the same- some pray in the night and recite the scripture. notice the word scripture there. further: the Quran says that Jews and Christians who do righteous deeds and believe in God and the last day will have no fear on them.
Just because God is above change does not mean that Humans have different needs or that God can Will differently to people at different times. You also put down laws on what God can and cannot do.
Religion is acting according to revelation and knowing God from what God tells us. It is not believing in what is convenient for us and assuming God is what we assume God to be.
Your video talks about you rejecting islam - but it is really a video about why you chose judaism over islam
Without answering to critics and what Muslims say about the bible or torah, can you create a video about what you researched about islam itself and said - well this is what you liked about it, and this is what you disliked?
(And when we made a covenant with the children of Israel: you shall not serve any but Allah (god) and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside.
Salaam again I also wanted to say that your reply was vary clear, it makes sense, and it matches with the Islamic way of teaching. I have not read the Torah, in your opinion which would the best translation for my self? If you don't mind, there is no polite way of asking! can you tel me what type of Jewish school of thought you are following?
Salaam First of all I apologise if I offend you that is not my meant. This is a difficult question to answer in a short space but I will try with reason. I don't believe the Torah has been changed! In saying this I do believe the bibles and the gospels have been. Now I want to ask you another question and that is what is your opinion on the last messenger.
Salaam, my thought is that God could have preserved the book but then, what would the point of the test be? He could have made saiten bow to Adam because he has power in infinite amount so why didn't he? Also he could have denied saiten long life and vanished him into nothing, but then what would be the point of a hell? And he could have made us without will like the angels but then what would the point of existence be?
Why do you think your question "Salaam, my thought is that God could have preserved the book but then, what would the point of the test be?" is applicable to Torah but not to the Qur'an as well?
We do say that those who love G-d are His "sons," but this is only in a metaphorical sense. It is forbidden to understand it literally. In Hebrew, anyone who agrees with a particular group or idea can be called a 'son' of that thing.
Abraham and Moses were messengers and prophets of G-d. G-d has no actual sons or daughters. According to Jews, it is blasphemy to teach that G-d has sons, daughters, a mother, father, brother, sister, or that anything is comparable to Him.
Salaam. Torah is the word of god not of Moses he just bought the message to them the Jews. I have 2 questions? my Question is if the Torah was complete then why did Jesus come to them the Jews? And why did the rest of the messengers come to the Jews?
The Torah teaches that future prophets will come who will warn us of disasters and tell us to repent lest those disasters become reality. Read through the "Old Testament" prophets and you will see a BIG difference between the books of the prophets and the Torah. The Torah is packed with laws, whereas prophets after Moses only encouraged the people to RETURN to upholding the Torah's laws. They may also tell us what the outcome of an event may or may not be.
@omedyashar ...........1.The islamic sciptures teach that Jesus never actually died on the cross.He is alleged to have departed from the cross before fully expiring.This is simply historically inaccurate,however,as essentially no New Testament historian (event the most radically anti-Cristian) believes Jesus survived crucifixion.
22.Islam has not been hijacked.That islam has been hijacked is what non-muslims naturally assume because they assume all religions are the same.The reason non muslims are so easily confused is that most of us dont realize the difference between the Qur'an and every other religions book we are familiar whit.
The Christian bible is a colection of writings from various authours whit parables,advice and dreams all toghether in 1 book.Same whit the jewish Torah.
The Christian bible is a colection of writings from various authours whit parables,advice and dreams all toghether in 1 book.Same whit the jewish Torah.
But the Qur'an is only 1 book writing by 1 man in his own lifetime.It is mostly direct commands.
The Qur'an is no picking and choosing.It says very explicitly and in no uncertain terms that a muslin must not alter or ignore any part of its very clear and direct message or they will burn in a fiery torment forever.
@omedyashar@silversmoke100 hopefully it gets to both of you, in a sense why does the Almighty need to test us if we are his creation then we are but him are we not (we are made in the image of Adonai/Allah as it states in the Torah or what the Islamics call it (pardon the lack of term), not just in it but the beginings of it) if then arn't we all the same. What we practice is not wrong no matter how we practice it, as long as its "Gods" will.
On the Torah: I just finished reading the Torah, and I am in the middle of the Tanakh right now :) Issues I have: Leviticus is hand and hand with Sharia, your thoughts. How are prophets alcoholics, adulterers, and incestuous? How is alcohol permissible? Why is acrude interest forbidden in Lev, but OK in Deut?! (to be charged to non religious people) Why does the Torah say Moses died at the end if Moses wrote the Torah? These are the issues, not Translation or transliteration. THanks
#1- Its seems as though Judiasm has become a very tribal religion. How does one convert to Judaism.
#2- On the Subject of Kabbalah: It is very "New Age" meaning it adheres to the "we are all part of God" school of thought. How would this be seen as monotheism?
On the Torah:
I just finished reading the Torah, and I am in the middle of the Tanakh right now :)
1.Just type "how to convert to Judaism" on Google; it doesnt let me copy and paste the link.
2. On Kaballah it is considered that the Kaballah was given since the time of Moses on Mount Sinai but it was esoteric meaning that only a small group of people studied it.
I am studying it now; if you look up the Sefirot chart which is part of Kaballah and compare it to Chakras you can see how much Hinduism has taken from Judaism. Judaism is pure
"so judge between them by what God hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee"
DO you think it makes any sense God Almighty is endorsing not folloiwng the new revelation, when the previous words are clearly saying that the one's doing the rejecting are following their VAIN DESIRES and DIVERGING FROM THE TRUTH that has come to Muhammad (S)?
The Bani Israel have no reason to object to the Quran, because it confirms the very Book in their hands, and it further corrects the lies the scribes have added to their scriptures. If the Bani Israel reject, than it becomes obvious that they are rejecting purely out of prejudice for Muhammad.
One more time:
With the revelation of the Quran, the Bani Israel, recognizing it as the Book of God, must follow it, despite the fact that they have the Torah or Gospel in their hands.
I agree that some parts of "Torah" may have suffered some corruption. But the very idea of God being unable to preserve it's message to the world is just unimaginable. It's like God not being smart enough to foresee it, nor powerful enough to prevent it. You could even succeed in destroying all existing copies of Torah and yet not achieve your goal, as you can't ever destroy it's oral tradition, it's rituals, and symbols. Let's take an hypothetical case: supposed all Tanak's...
There is Jesus (AS) religion which the true religion of Jesus (AS) did survive for around 500 years but than when it died down Allah served the ultimate Guidance the Quran and the prophetic path!
One thing i'll say, is that Muslims dont reject the Torah. We neither accept what is in there nor reject it because something in there can be the word of Allah Now we say that the Torah is abrogated, and if you look in the history of the Prophets scripture has been abrogated and new laws have came and went. At the end of the day there are prophecies in Isaiah, the gospels, and in the Torah that was fulfilled by Muhammad (SAW). Now concerning your argument of 500 years.
Allah, the Exalted, did not leave His slaves to rely upon their intellect and inclination to the correct way, rather He also sent the Messengers to them as bringers of good tidings and warnings. Prophet Muhammed( pbuh) is the Seal of the Prophets and the true universal Messenger of Allah to the whole of mankind.
You ask for places in Torah which command Jews to live in Israel:
Deuteronomy 30, 1-10. Jews will return to Israel.
And you also mentioned some rabbi in New York who argues differently. He is basing his argument on part of Talmud, not Moses or the bible. And we can also argue that this argument does not apply in our generation, and that it is okay to have a Jewish state. But the state of Israel is not following Torah law yet, and that is the struggle for us Jews to make it so.
It is not possible to make a short statement about the long history of Jews or Persians, or Kurds or Turks which will be accurate to all periods of history. According to the Torah (5 books of Moses) and the writings of the prophets, Israel did inherit the Land of Israel as eternal inheritance, and we are commanded by God to live here in this land, even if it has no Jewish government. We lived under Turkish rule a few centuries, which was better than Byzantine, but not totally free.
that was a good speech but i want to ask you 2 questions: are you a messainic jew? and what does the talmud say about jesus? i heard jewish people say bad things about jesus in their talmud.
2:55 < definately. We agree with this. If there was a corruption it must of been way before Muhammad peace be upon him!
That is why Muslims say that isa was also sent to revive the message after Musa. And when the teachings of Isa were corrupted (as seen by even you today) Muhammad was sent to restore it for humanity. Whereas Musa and Isa were sent for one particular nation, (the lost sheep of israel/The house of israel) Muhammad was sent to the whole of Humanity.
God sent messages to the whole of humanity since time in memorial. The core of the message is the same, to believe in One God etc. To say that God only sent down the torah, is to neglect an entire history before Musa (peace of God be upon him). So you'd have to accept people before Musa also got guidence from God. How? By divine revelation, as Islam affirms that all nations were sent messengers. Just as Musa bought the torah after those previous nations, Muhamamad bought the Quran after Musa
Omedyashar, you're make a great Muslim, you have the appearence of one already.
You are questioning God at the begginning of this video, and why he chose to preserve the Quran rather than the Torah. I believe in the torah of Moses to be 100% accurate, however it is not available today. Atleast read the Quran, whether in hebrew, or English, whatever you speak better. Just because you do not know God's wisdom in choosing to preserve the Quran rather than torah doesn't mean the Quran is false.
The test is obediance. Different generations went through different changes. The rabbi's in the time of Jesus bin Maryam decided to reject his authenticity. They were wrong, his message was from directly from ALLAH SWT. Each prophet had laws and regulations from the time of ADAM to now, including Ibrihim. So why does ALLAH SWT abbrogate his laws and books to newer versions? The reason is to test the heart for sincerity. The blessings and favors of ALLAH SWT come from conformance to his will. :-)
just becoz all the other books were altered ,Allah has promised that he will save the quran from being altered! its all man made mistakes ... but surely ALLAH is the All knowing !
Hi I am Muslim, I need to know Why Judaism is only specific to the Israelites, what about the other population whom don`t belong to this religion, knowing that conversion to Judaism is very complicated. - According to Judaism you are in the right path if you where born Jew first - In Islam everybody born Muslim and it their parent who makes him Jew or Christian. which means your are Muslim not because of your genes but you are Muslim according to your behavior.
interesting video and I agree with many of UR comments (even as a chistian). It might interest you to note that Muslims also make the same accusations (arguments ?) concerning the validity & accuracy of Christian text.Frankly this entire line of argument is, on it's face, baseless, pathetic & lacks any scholarly coherence. This is not an argument which any believing Christian would EVER consider leveling against the Torah. Is this a tactic to mask the false, superficial nature of Q ?
omedyashar...I see there are lots of ..they..they...they..they...in your clips refering to muslims....It seems you haven't got it yet....you don't follow islam because of they..you follow islam because of it....refering to the quran...if you are going to look at muslims of today and find your way in by looking at the "they" people that you are gonna join...believe me it is better to stay a jew :)....and that's from an arab muslim my friend....the question is simple " DO YOU BELIEVE THE BOOK?"
well my friend The quran no matter what language it is translated into, the original arabic in the quran will always be in the book as well. so no matter whats lost in the translation, will never be lost in the original at is in every copy of the quran.
No matter how well something is translated into another language it can NEVER capture the essence of the original language.
I think God uses individuals to speak to each nation: For Israel He used Moshe (PBUH); to gentiles, he used Jesus (PBUH), to Arabs He used Muhammed (PBUH), To Asians, He used Buddah (PBUH), etc. I think, in their enthusiasm, these prophet's followers try to reach into other prophets "territories", which is going beyond God's calling. Just my opinion. Shalom
No prophet has ever said they have come for the whole of mankind i.e. from his time till the day of judgement, except Muhammed (pbuh), so logically the laws that come from the Quran should fit in for our society and cure the problems for our society. If the Torah was for all times then it should have the cure for the problems of our society right? Now do a comparison and see which one is better.
Ur right about Muslim/Islam means submission to the will of God and the prophets before were Muslims in that sense. The religion Islam was not complete and was complete.what i mean is that it was complete and the laws were for that time period only according to the theme i.e. era of Moses was magic, era of Jesus was Medicine. Now for our era it is literature. Now by default the Quran should be superior to all other literature right? now read it with 'Tafseer' or with Modern Science :)
however the Torah was for a specific time period only, and so was the Gospels or a specific time period only. The Quran on the other hand is for from the time of Muhammed (pbuh) till the day of judgement. Why? because there will be no prophet with new revelation coming.
Jew or Judaism is not in any of the Jewish books. It came about from when the non-jews said that the ones who follow Judah from Judea have the religion Judaism and are Jews.
Yes and now are the MUSLIMS the ones burying girls and women, stoned to death, beaten to death by their husbands and communities, PLEASE GROW UP!! By the other hand that Muhammed took the torah, copied what he thougt was of use and "invented" a new religion out of the religion of Israel. The religion created and inspired by God for thousands of years... The torah was there thousands of years ago... We did not need a new arab version of it.
the quran's translation cannot be corrupted because it is in only one language arabic. the bible is in multiple and the torah is just corrupt due to jews changing it. many believed it was not changed but there are torahs in various arabs countries with different verses. God sent Muhammad because times had changed and a new order was needed. God made other religions to show the truth in Islam b/c with out other religions the truth could nt have been proven.
God revealed His guidance to Abraham (pbuh) and because of his sincerity and submission to the directives of God, God promised the continuation of His guidance among Abraham's progeny.
God revealed His guidance to Abraham (pbuh) and because of his sincerity and submission to the directives of God, God promised the continuation of His guidance among Abraham's progeny.
the world was in darkness before muhammad, europe was burning books and were barbaric, arabs were burying girl children and worshiping wood and stone. like u said , ALLAH DOESN'T LEAVE THE WORLD IN DARKNESS, HE SENT A PROPHET , WHICH WAS MUHAMMAD, TO REVAMP THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE, TO REINSTATE AND REVIVE THE PEOPLE TO THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE. AND THE QURAN HAS NEVER BEEN CHANGED EVER SINCE.. THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE THE SAME.
By "darkness" I meant abscence of the authoritiative divine guidance in the world. I was not referring to social darkness of cultures dominated by unlearned individuals supressed by wicked rulers.
The kind of darkness that was in Europe before Muhammad is a darkness continued in Europe loooong long after Muhammad. There are still too many places in the world where such darkness exists.
...I have no problem believing that G-d sent someone to re-vamp, re-instate, and re-vive the original message - but this would be a re-storation of the same laws, not the nullification of earlier laws.
And I do not deny that G-d used Mohammad as a messenger of monotheism to the Arab peoples. I agree that the teaching of Islam as espoused by Muhammad are the same fundamentals as the Torah... except that IF he taught that some eternal commandments were nullified.
@omedyashar what I find interesting is a common trend in your videos. Many of the arguments you make towards those whom comment, never have the decency to defend their arguments. Either because they are half hearted in what they say, or your arguments are untouchable.
You have not done your homework well, you need to talk to Muslim scholars to learn the reality, don't just talk to ignorant Muslims and come to the conclusion.
Take care and don't just give up yet, pray to Allah sincerely for guidance and I hope He will guide you to the true religion of His, and this should not be so difficult for you unless you repeat the same mistake as your forefathers did by rejecting the truth after "recognizing" it.
@omedyashar , well, God is telling you how to worship him throu prophets he sends to the people of this world.. if your going to say no , then thats ur test results. islam fundamentals are not diff then torah, but more laws has come to perfect the way of life for humanity. the 5 pillars of islam, the prophets history and jesus being the christ. the way to pray, everything and anything that is mentioned in islam is the perfected way of God's guidelines of worship.
1. Quran never says Torah was corrupt. But Quran says Jews rabbi or Jews religious leader pronounced it differently which produced different meanings of a single verse.
2. Also Quran says Previous Israelite prophets and their laws belongs only to Israelites. same goes for other prophets.
3. Now when Quran was revealed to Muhammed(pbuh) it was for whole mankind. And hence Quran says it abrogated some laws of previous scriptures and bring better one.
@omedyashar Salamoalaikum.. I was reading the Quran.. and watched your videos.. I dont think old faiths should be rejected according to the Quran.. All that God says in the Quran is (for the idolaters) Stop idolatry, (for the cruel/tyrants) make peace, (For the Jews) accept Mohammad (pbuh) as the Prophet of God and stay true to what you were taught, (For the christians) stop calling Jesus God's son go back to your true teachings [pure monotheism like jews and muslims]..
They still have to fllow Muhammad (pbuh). This is the first pillar of Islam. Belief in one God and Muhammad messenger of God. Don't truncate the message.
"O People! Verily I am the Messenger of God sent to you..." and countless ayat testify to that.
Besides how do you justify the payment of the jizya by the People of the Book if their religion is still valid?
How about the jihad against romans? Aggressive I am talking about up to Spain and Byzantine?
@superkugeta Im not a scholar, and the Quran does not accept all the actions done by Muslims, Wars led by Muslims is not the Quran's fault.. And im not sure about jizya, pretty sure i cant recall it in the Quran (I need to read it up) if it doesnt exist in the Quran that means it should not exist amongst the ideas of the Muslims..
@omedyashar *Those who believe (in the Quran being a Revelation) and those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures) [meaning Yahood/Jews] and the Christians (Followers of Jesus, not his worshipers) and the Sabians - any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve (2:62)* I believe whoever Accepts this message automatically becomes a "Muslim" (One who submits to God)
interesting video and I agree with many of UR comments (even as a chistian). It might interest you to note that Muslims also make the same accusations (arguments ?) concerning the validity & accuracy of Christian text.Frankly this entire line of argument is, on it's face, baseless, pathetic & lacks any scholarly coherence. This is not an argument which any believing Christian would EVER consider leveling against the Torah. Is this a tactic to mask the false, superficial nature of Q ?
To all those who like to argue, without any proof or any basis, that the Torah has been changed, then why does it yet contain all the many times that the tribes of Israel sinned? Why does it still contain every wicked deed of every Jewish king, and why does it record even small mistakes?
These could have been taken out of our book, if someone wanted to clean it up. So why didn't they do that?
Because it is forbidden to change even 1 word. And we have to accept the rebuke of our past sins.
If you realy a believer with no doubts then why attacking Islam teachings and deducing clearly wrong deductions with very evident scarce knowledge of Islam . hatred will not give you salvation nor light
The Quran means recital. It is said to contain the older books. Mohammad (pbuh) said: " I was given the seven long chapters in place of the Torah, the Mieen which is in the place of the Gospel, the similar even chapters which are the Zaboor (David psalms), and was given the Mofassal.
God did not say this was a new religion rather it is the same old religion (Islam).
Only this time, the Torah, and all other books would be memorized by heart and recited daily.
The Lord said to me [Moses]: What they say is good. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you among their brothers; I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name, I will Myself call him to account. (Deuteronomy 18:179)-
it is very funny that u have spoken about this passage.. because u should read the folowing onees18:1918:20 etc... were it says that the false prophet shal die... moses did not die mohamed did... prophecie not accomplished no need to folow mohamed because our torah deosnt say so....
18:20 Conversely, if a prophet presumptuously makes a declaration in My name when I have not commanded him to do so, or if he speaks in the name of other gods, then that prophet shall die.'
and i have no reason to listen to you and what u have to say about the quran not because i dont want to.... because alot of people tried but it deosnt make sense for me that the quran says the jew are the people of the book and then says if you dont beleive me ask the jews they had the truth before you.... and then it says the jews no longeer have the truth....
y would u ask a nation that deosnt have the truth?
You brought up the verse: "Then if you are in doubt, then Ask those who read the book from before you.." The verse simply says that it is the truth, ask the early believers back then (Not literally). It is not meant so Mohammad goes back in time and actually ask them. Consider also: Ask the children of Israel, how many clear signs have we given them."?
Again it is to the children of Israel who witnessed the signs back then.
i didnt mean literaly... i meant if the poeople of israel saying they no longer had the the truth why would the be an eligible people to be asked such a thing... and i dont think actually i know its not talking about the signs but the torah (the book not the signs)...
You have to consider that there used to be portions of the Torah in the Hijaz area different from the one you use today. This is mentioned by Kaa'b Al-Ahhbar a Yemenite Jewish scholar who converted to Islam. Those Jewish converts to Islam have also spoken of verses to be contained in the Torah that are not there today referring to the description of Mohammad and verses about Ezra.
wow cooooollll... i know alot of musllim scholars who have converted to christianity and judiasm and they say alot of things about the quran... should i beleive them cuz they were muslim scholars?? nop inless they have proof :)
Ok. You have the right to say that, but when you have someone like the jewish wife of Mohammad who told what she had heard from her father and uncle about prophet Mohammad being the prophet like Moses, and she believed and they refused, would you not wonder?
nop why should i shes no prophet just a regular person...
if u want i have more there this big kabalist from i think the 10th century ppl tought he was the messiah he did miracles and shit but the siq of turkey captured him and told him if ure the messiah either convert to islam or i will kill u and u wont be afraid since u say ure the messiah and he converted... that guy was a big kabalist did miracles jews really starded to beleive. who should i follow more just a random jewish chick or him?
If you do not believe the jewish Converts? why dismiss others
"The Nasarenes . . .They acknowledged Moses and believed that he had received laws - not this law, however, but some other. And so, they were Jews who kept all the Jewish observances, but they would not offer sacrifice or eat meat. They considered it unlawful to eat meat or make sacrifices with it. They claim that these Books (of Moses) are fictions, and that none of these customs were instituted by the fathers. (Panarion 1:18)
Obviously those converts lied to justify the conversion to islam. No jewish "scholar" would ever convert to islam. Torah forbids abrogation completely. Torah is ETERNAL never to be changed. Read Deut. 13:01.
also my book is divine... not one letter has ever been changed... like i said show me one mistake... one relevant mistake not a misenterpretation.. you cant it is impossible... and in my divine book it says the laws the lord has givin us are for eternity....
if mohamed one that propthet talked about in deutronomy where is shabbat and tefillin and all the other laws written in the torah?
nice video... but all these things so called mistakes have all been adressed already 100000 times u think that video is the first one lol... just type them on google there all there
You know that as Muslims we believe in the Torah as a holy book of God, however, we recognize that the scribes had added things in it that are not from God. The Torah its self states that
Jeremiah 8:8
" 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
Muslims do not speak ill of chosen people from God or accuse them of anything like adultery, Drunkness, ...etc.
my freind muslims use this verse over and over and over again... the verse implies \about some false letters the scribes wrote to the king, theres more to the sentence you should read...
any addition or playing around with words/letters is a most serious crime with the divine book. The only 'development' that has taken place with the Qur'an is that the arabs added Explicit Vowels to the Arabic. Even though they themself (the early muslim arabs) knew how to read it, the nonarab muslims could never figure out how to pronounce the words since there were no vowels.
Finally there are about 7 variant '"Readings" of the Qur'an which basically has to do with how to words are'pronounced'
if u say the torah is the word of Gd and that Gd is perfect... why would he change his word since his word is perfect...
2nd if u say the torah is holy therefore ure book isnt y because it contradicts it...
3rd whats funny is that u say thaat jews change the torah with time why proof?? u could do the same for as far as i know... but still the orldest torah is 7yrs bc therefor hundreds of year before mohamed even existed and guess what its the same not 1 word chnaged
lets say the christians changed isiah what does that have to do with jews christians changed everything lol there book is full of mistake and they forced us to be christians not to change the writtings... but the 5 book of moses the revelation of gd to moses not one word couldve been change it wouldnt be hallal... the sofer need to check every single letter and space... not onneee . added
yes i understand what ure trying to say but still isaias book isnt part of the 5 book of moses wich is called torah... and also like i said christians persucutated us to convert not to change our bible... they changed wtv the wanned didnt matter ours didnt change in any way...im not geting what u r trying to say how is it relevent in anyway
@truthisjudiasm suran2:256. There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
wow butifull man i wish veryone would think like u...
me as a jew i have to follow my laws wich include the 7 laws of noah but other nations just have to follow these 7 laws to have a place in the world to come...
@truthisjudiasm true. but you jews have to give prophet Muhammed was a rightoues man or a prophet of hashem in some way to bring arabia back to monthiesm.
@truthisjudiasm the Quran gives out how the torah was changed. sura 2:79 Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allâh," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby.
and the torah says how the quran and mohamed arnt true... in ure quuran it says if u dont belein in the quuran ask the jews who had the truth before u... y would u ask the jews they wouldnt know they dont have the truth anymore? no?
this videos explains pretty well y jews dont beleive in the quuran...
and the Warsh text (mainly used in Northwest Africa) are different not only in the vowels but also in some consonants.
Gds book is divine no one should add or remove anything... jews have vowels too but never did they add it to the torah... the same way moses gave it to us we still have it today...
No they did not since they could not. Whenever a copy of Qur'an is written it is checked by Huffaz (the people that have memorized it). Even a single addition of Alif makes the manuscript flawed and it rejected. Besides the Huffaz (who are mostly normal people it terms that they have memorized the whole book but not necessarily high callibre scholars) also keep checking the Qur'ans in the Mosques. To add a single letter in all this time cant happen since Huffaz have been around sinceGeneration1.
lol u know whats funny for jews these people are sopher stam... since moses they exist and check every writhing of the torah if a leter is a bit erased then the book is not valid... u cant even add a vowel... if ures are opened to that then it makes the book once again not divine since it has been modified by a human being
The Old testament that you have, can it be directly related to the prophets? means that what we have can be directly said to be written or authored by Moses e.t.c?
there has always been only ONE Qur'an and main reason for this is that Whole book was memorized by many many people during the 1st generation of muslims and has continued thereafter (even by nonarabs). Besides if Usman or anyone would have tried to forge a copy, the other people that HAD memorized it anyway would have brought it to attention.
also , if you want to test if the Koran is added, corrupted. just test the imams of some good musks , think about it. we learn the Koran and preserved it completely in our head. There are millions of ppl who learned the Koran completely and dont have to use the book it self to read the Koran. If some one in the world adds one letter then there will be millions of ppl who can recognize it as corrupt and burn it.
And Allah him self said that he will preserve the Koran.
The Koran has not been translated, because when we refer to the Koran than We are always referring to the Arabic Text in the book. This text has never been added or changed.
And a misunderstanding among some of us is that the Koran was created after the death of our prophet Mohammed (salla allahu 3alaihi wa sallam). That is a misunderstanding , because the Koran was complete before the Prophet(salla allahu 3alaihi wa sallam) died but not in a book form.
since u were a christian u should know that jesus had said in John 16:12 "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now." And then he goes on to prophecize Muhammad.
That said, logically, if I want to study medical science why can't I directly apply to med-school why do I have to complete high school, then college then i apply to med-school???
Similarly, humans got the Quran when they were able to understand it, humans had more knowledge to grasp it
In answer to your question about Muhammad and the seal of the prophets. 1) muhammad throughout the Qur'an is referred to as "messenger" because it was given to him, and there are references I think where they say he is the last messenger.
2) Qur'an says to obey the teachings of Muhammad, these teachings Muslims believe, are inspired. They say that Muhammad is the last messenger.
3) The religion is "COMPLETED" for us - and it is called Islam. This is what the Qur'an says.
@truthisjudiasm yes the messiah Jesus is going to come to fulfill the rest of the prophcies...prophet Muhammed is another moses! he doesnt contradict the law of moses there is no such thing as judiasm in the torah....
@truthisjudiasm uhh muslims get circumsized.....the messiah is to fulfill the prophcies yes there will be peace in the 2nd coming of Jesus(pbuh)! Islam answers and corrects Judiasm and christianity no disresrepect.
nop gds word is perfect if he says messiah is going to bring peace he knows the messiah is going to bring peace... if theres no peace if the messiah has already arrived therefore the prophecies in the bible is wrong and the book is false
it is not like Messiah will give you peace as if you give a book to someone 'In rememberance of God will you only find Peace' (Surah 13:29). So if you do not worship God in the way he wants to be worshipped you will never find Peace in your heart. And besides we muslims believe that Jesus (pbuh) did not die on the cross. he was raised up by Allah and will descend again.From our perspective he is still the messiah of the Jews and the messianic prophecy still refers to Jesus and it is to come...
cool thats good for u... but the torahs prophecies only point out that jesus is not the messiah... deutronomy 13:1 to 5... clearllyyy talks about ppl like jesus...
i dont beleive in your book for one reason only.. it contradicts mine... muslim say that jews dont have the truth anymore.. so go ahead and find me 1 mistake in the torah...
hmm interesting that u bring Torah up.The Torah prophesized (Deuteronomy 18:179)- about the Prophet Muhammad. Jews knew down to the location of where he would come...and indeed half the Rabbis of Medina converted to islam at that time--this is a fact look it up if u want to- the other half rejected because the Prophet was not from among the Jews.
find mistake in torah?why? it is easier for me to show you Quran is the literal word of God if you are willing to listen--which i doubt u will.
@exchangemarketor3 Is that why in your hadith muhamed said "if only ten Jews would accept me, all would". Meaning in the whole of muhamed's life less then 10 jews accepted him. The more I learn about islam and koran the more I realize how false islam and koran are. No offense.
e go to (2 Chr.8:18) and also (1 Ki.9:28). If the book has even ONE error then it is not worth a penny as it will only misguide you. But the torah and new testament are full of contradictions and confusing statements! My brother the quran was not sent down to put you down or to make you feel uncomfortable, it was sent to guide you. See how merciful Allah is, he wants to save you from the evil works of the old rabis.I swear by Allah, I am not here to offend you, I just want everyone to be guided.
my brother... please show me a contradiction in the torah :) and i will convert to islam... i am so sure that my torah is holy ai am willing to take that risk since it isnt a risk... i dont beleive i dont feel my heart deosnt tell me what to do... i like facts show me facts... and when u r done not being able to i will show u contradictions and unfullfilled prophecies and unfullfillable prophecies since time has elapsed in you quran...
Quran and present it in a way that flips around the whole meaning of the verse, so I am not goin to do that with the tanakh as I will be a hypocrite. But please open your tanakh and go to ( II Sam.24:9 ) and then ( 1 Chr.21:5 )... this is a numerical contradiction! It does not matter what language it is in, a number is a number! There are MANY contradictions which are not numerical, but I know you will always give a confusing excuse, so I gave you proof that anyone can agree with me. Also pleas
My brother, the Qur'an was sent down by your Lord that helps you and provides for you in life as well as mine, Allah. He sent it down to clear up the confusion that is in the tawraat, as well as the injeel (gospel) and to guide you. We have a common denominator its just that the children of israel changed the original text. You denied that in your video, but I have no idea how you can say this, it is definitely corrupted.. the thing I hate most about people is when they copy texts from the ^
it's not a matter of translation.there are so many contradictions in the tanakh ex: Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?(a) God did (2Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2).the bible says"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.(Jeremiah 8:8)"
The main argument that you make about the Torah had been preserved because God will not let people live without a 100% pure book, is not consistent with teh fact that God sent all teh prphits like Noah, Abraham, Lot, Issac, Yusuf, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad.
He sent the prophits because teh peopel moved away and altered teh original message.
God's religion is one but sent multiple times through all messengers and MOhammad is teh final messenger
@omedyasher Isia 7:20 God SHAVES LEGS IN JUDAISM???
TheFourNobleTruths2 6 days ago
the problem is that most jews don't go to torah for guidance but istead use talmud( a book written by a man ) as their authoritative book and their laws are based on talmud's directives and not torah. AND U ARE WRONG , Quran is preserved in original language .. the translations are never considered as Quran but more like as making life easier for those who don't understand the arabic language.. but to know what's in it, we only refer to the arabic language in order to clarify things...
rezanoei 1 month ago
u are wrong cuz people at the time of other prophets didn't have the capacity to understand and obey a complete guidance from God... religion was brought to man little by little until its completion by the last prophet ( Mohammad ) pbuh. humans were like kids starting school.. u never go on to teach a kid materials from university but u start with very basic knowledge until the kid is mature enough to understand the rest..
rezanoei 1 month ago
Musa (Peace Be Upon Him) ----Isa (PBUH)---- Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him)
You need 2 acknowledge all the Messengers along with their respected message. Torah - Gospel - Qur'aan Watching the big picture vs picking at the puzzle pieces we can better understand the Truth.
UnderstandingAll 4 months ago
muslims dont think that the world was in darkness for all that was before Muhammad peace be upon him. The Quran even says that the jews and christians are not all the same- some pray in the night and recite the scripture. notice the word scripture there. further: the Quran says that Jews and Christians who do righteous deeds and believe in God and the last day will have no fear on them.
ghostmanno12 9 months ago
@ghostmanno12 only christians don't believe they are saved by deeds only by there faith :(
yomamasofat87 1 day ago
Just because God is above change does not mean that Humans have different needs or that God can Will differently to people at different times. You also put down laws on what God can and cannot do.
Religion is acting according to revelation and knowing God from what God tells us. It is not believing in what is convenient for us and assuming God is what we assume God to be.
ghostmanno12 9 months ago
Your video talks about you rejecting islam - but it is really a video about why you chose judaism over islam
Without answering to critics and what Muslims say about the bible or torah, can you create a video about what you researched about islam itself and said - well this is what you liked about it, and this is what you disliked?
ghostmanno12 9 months ago
listen pal you saw the light welcome hashem bless you
randomdude1085 10 months ago
what about the aspect of being "born a jew."
Also where does Moses (May Gods Peace and blessing be upon him) mention Kabbalah, or even the word Judaism in the Torah, or even the Tanakh?!
May God Guide you.
Peace brother
InBlackNwhite09 10 months ago
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Quran:
(Surah-2-the cow-vs-83)
(And when we made a covenant with the children of Israel: you shall not serve any but Allah (god) and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside.
quranresponse 11 months ago
you need to watch dr ahmad deedat....you just waste your time here..
The87termizy 11 months ago
Salaam again I also wanted to say that your reply was vary clear, it makes sense, and it matches with the Islamic way of teaching. I have not read the Torah, in your opinion which would the best translation for my self? If you don't mind, there is no polite way of asking! can you tel me what type of Jewish school of thought you are following?
silversmoke100 1 year ago
Salaam First of all I apologise if I offend you that is not my meant. This is a difficult question to answer in a short space but I will try with reason. I don't believe the Torah has been changed! In saying this I do believe the bibles and the gospels have been. Now I want to ask you another question and that is what is your opinion on the last messenger.
silversmoke100 1 year ago
Salaam, my thought is that God could have preserved the book but then, what would the point of the test be? He could have made saiten bow to Adam because he has power in infinite amount so why didn't he? Also he could have denied saiten long life and vanished him into nothing, but then what would be the point of a hell? And he could have made us without will like the angels but then what would the point of existence be?
silversmoke100 1 year ago
@silversmoke100
Why do you think your question "Salaam, my thought is that God could have preserved the book but then, what would the point of the test be?" is applicable to Torah but not to the Qur'an as well?
omedyashar 1 year ago
Salaam, I have another question and this question is to the Jews only. Do you believe Abraham and Mosses (PBUT) were messengers or sons of god?
silversmoke100 1 year ago
@silversmoke100
We do say that those who love G-d are His "sons," but this is only in a metaphorical sense. It is forbidden to understand it literally. In Hebrew, anyone who agrees with a particular group or idea can be called a 'son' of that thing.
Abraham and Moses were messengers and prophets of G-d. G-d has no actual sons or daughters. According to Jews, it is blasphemy to teach that G-d has sons, daughters, a mother, father, brother, sister, or that anything is comparable to Him.
omedyashar 1 year ago
Salaam. Torah is the word of god not of Moses he just bought the message to them the Jews. I have 2 questions? my Question is if the Torah was complete then why did Jesus come to them the Jews? And why did the rest of the messengers come to the Jews?
silversmoke100 1 year ago
@silversmoke100
The Torah teaches that future prophets will come who will warn us of disasters and tell us to repent lest those disasters become reality. Read through the "Old Testament" prophets and you will see a BIG difference between the books of the prophets and the Torah. The Torah is packed with laws, whereas prophets after Moses only encouraged the people to RETURN to upholding the Torah's laws. They may also tell us what the outcome of an event may or may not be.
omedyashar 1 year ago
@omedyashar ...........1.The islamic sciptures teach that Jesus never actually died on the cross.He is alleged to have departed from the cross before fully expiring.This is simply historically inaccurate,however,as essentially no New Testament historian (event the most radically anti-Cristian) believes Jesus survived crucifixion.
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mydreams82 5 months ago
22.Islam has not been hijacked.That islam has been hijacked is what non-muslims naturally assume because they assume all religions are the same.The reason non muslims are so easily confused is that most of us dont realize the difference between the Qur'an and every other religions book we are familiar whit.
The Christian bible is a colection of writings from various authours whit parables,advice and dreams all toghether in 1 book.Same whit the jewish Torah.
mydreams82 5 months ago
The Christian bible is a colection of writings from various authours whit parables,advice and dreams all toghether in 1 book.Same whit the jewish Torah.
But the Qur'an is only 1 book writing by 1 man in his own lifetime.It is mostly direct commands.
The Qur'an is no picking and choosing.It says very explicitly and in no uncertain terms that a muslin must not alter or ignore any part of its very clear and direct message or they will burn in a fiery torment forever.
mydreams82 5 months ago
@omedyashar @silversmoke100 hopefully it gets to both of you, in a sense why does the Almighty need to test us if we are his creation then we are but him are we not (we are made in the image of Adonai/Allah as it states in the Torah or what the Islamics call it (pardon the lack of term), not just in it but the beginings of it) if then arn't we all the same. What we practice is not wrong no matter how we practice it, as long as its "Gods" will.
CreatureParallax 4 months ago
@CreatureParallax not image of g-d the word is shadow.
yomamasofat87 1 day ago
InBlackNwhite09 1 year ago
Salaam /Shalom:
Here are my questions:
#1- Its seems as though Judiasm has become a very tribal religion. How does one convert to Judaism.
#2- On the Subject of Kabbalah: It is very "New Age" meaning it adheres to the "we are all part of God" school of thought. How would this be seen as monotheism?
On the Torah:
I just finished reading the Torah, and I am in the middle of the Tanakh right now :)
InBlackNwhite09 1 year ago
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herorapper 10 months ago
Respond to this video...
1.Just type "how to convert to Judaism" on Google; it doesnt let me copy and paste the link.
2. On Kaballah it is considered that the Kaballah was given since the time of Moses on Mount Sinai but it was esoteric meaning that only a small group of people studied it.
I am studying it now; if you look up the Sefirot chart which is part of Kaballah and compare it to Chakras you can see how much Hinduism has taken from Judaism. Judaism is pure
herorapper 10 months ago
"so judge between them by what God hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee"
DO you think it makes any sense God Almighty is endorsing not folloiwng the new revelation, when the previous words are clearly saying that the one's doing the rejecting are following their VAIN DESIRES and DIVERGING FROM THE TRUTH that has come to Muhammad (S)?
hamid954 1 year ago
The Bani Israel have no reason to object to the Quran, because it confirms the very Book in their hands, and it further corrects the lies the scribes have added to their scriptures. If the Bani Israel reject, than it becomes obvious that they are rejecting purely out of prejudice for Muhammad.
One more time:
With the revelation of the Quran, the Bani Israel, recognizing it as the Book of God, must follow it, despite the fact that they have the Torah or Gospel in their hands.
hamid954 1 year ago
Part 1
I agree that some parts of "Torah" may have suffered some corruption. But the very idea of God being unable to preserve it's message to the world is just unimaginable. It's like God not being smart enough to foresee it, nor powerful enough to prevent it. You could even succeed in destroying all existing copies of Torah and yet not achieve your goal, as you can't ever destroy it's oral tradition, it's rituals, and symbols. Let's take an hypothetical case: supposed all Tanak's...
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 1 year ago
man, can we have a debate? a religious respectful debate by messages here!! i hope u accept my invitation!!
elgazar99 1 year ago
There is Jesus (AS) religion which the true religion of Jesus (AS) did survive for around 500 years but than when it died down Allah served the ultimate Guidance the Quran and the prophetic path!
FATAL12SKILLZ 1 year ago
One thing i'll say, is that Muslims dont reject the Torah. We neither accept what is in there nor reject it because something in there can be the word of Allah Now we say that the Torah is abrogated, and if you look in the history of the Prophets scripture has been abrogated and new laws have came and went. At the end of the day there are prophecies in Isaiah, the gospels, and in the Torah that was fulfilled by Muhammad (SAW). Now concerning your argument of 500 years.
FATAL12SKILLZ 1 year ago
All religion is opium for the people
mikimaki55 1 year ago
Allah, the Exalted, did not leave His slaves to rely upon their intellect and inclination to the correct way, rather He also sent the Messengers to them as bringers of good tidings and warnings. Prophet Muhammed( pbuh) is the Seal of the Prophets and the true universal Messenger of Allah to the whole of mankind.
MuslimahUnity 1 year ago
Dear Javed:
You ask for places in Torah which command Jews to live in Israel:
Deuteronomy 30, 1-10. Jews will return to Israel.
And you also mentioned some rabbi in New York who argues differently. He is basing his argument on part of Talmud, not Moses or the bible. And we can also argue that this argument does not apply in our generation, and that it is okay to have a Jewish state. But the state of Israel is not following Torah law yet, and that is the struggle for us Jews to make it so.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
Dear Javed:
It is not possible to make a short statement about the long history of Jews or Persians, or Kurds or Turks which will be accurate to all periods of history. According to the Torah (5 books of Moses) and the writings of the prophets, Israel did inherit the Land of Israel as eternal inheritance, and we are commanded by God to live here in this land, even if it has no Jewish government. We lived under Turkish rule a few centuries, which was better than Byzantine, but not totally free.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
that was a good speech but i want to ask you 2 questions: are you a messainic jew? and what does the talmud say about jesus? i heard jewish people say bad things about jesus in their talmud.
egaldinejad 1 year ago
2:55 < definately. We agree with this. If there was a corruption it must of been way before Muhammad peace be upon him!
That is why Muslims say that isa was also sent to revive the message after Musa. And when the teachings of Isa were corrupted (as seen by even you today) Muhammad was sent to restore it for humanity. Whereas Musa and Isa were sent for one particular nation, (the lost sheep of israel/The house of israel) Muhammad was sent to the whole of Humanity.
Oo786oO 1 year ago
God sent messages to the whole of humanity since time in memorial. The core of the message is the same, to believe in One God etc. To say that God only sent down the torah, is to neglect an entire history before Musa (peace of God be upon him). So you'd have to accept people before Musa also got guidence from God. How? By divine revelation, as Islam affirms that all nations were sent messengers. Just as Musa bought the torah after those previous nations, Muhamamad bought the Quran after Musa
Oo786oO 1 year ago
Omedyashar, you're make a great Muslim, you have the appearence of one already.
You are questioning God at the begginning of this video, and why he chose to preserve the Quran rather than the Torah. I believe in the torah of Moses to be 100% accurate, however it is not available today. Atleast read the Quran, whether in hebrew, or English, whatever you speak better. Just because you do not know God's wisdom in choosing to preserve the Quran rather than torah doesn't mean the Quran is false.
Oo786oO 1 year ago
No; Abraham in truth was not a Jew,
neither a Christian; but he was a Muslim
and one pure of faith; certainly he was never
of the idolaters.
Surely the people standing closest fo Abraham
are those WHO FOLLOW him, and THIS PROPHET,
and those WHO BELIEVE; and God is the Protector
of the believers.
(The House of Imran, Chap-3; verse 60)
MickeyMien 1 year ago
The test is obediance. Different generations went through different changes. The rabbi's in the time of Jesus bin Maryam decided to reject his authenticity. They were wrong, his message was from directly from ALLAH SWT. Each prophet had laws and regulations from the time of ADAM to now, including Ibrihim. So why does ALLAH SWT abbrogate his laws and books to newer versions? The reason is to test the heart for sincerity. The blessings and favors of ALLAH SWT come from conformance to his will. :-)
JWMuslim 1 year ago
Al Baqara v. 47 O Children of Israel ! Remember my favor which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred you to all that is in existence.
(The Jewish people lived with a Prophet from generation to generation up to the time of Jesus bin Maryam) SubhannahALLAH.
Peace & Blessings
JWMuslim 1 year ago
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why you choose to be jewish ?
because you are a satanist
kuwaitiandproud 1 year ago
Allah has selected the Jews to be his prophet to spread God's
message..but they failed and burn their holy books.Then GOD choose the Arab, Mohammad and succeed with the Holy Quraan.
hbburgar 1 year ago
mohamed has been mensioned in the Thora and in the bible as well!
lahdjam 1 year ago
i have an argument to proove tht all u said was wrong !!! :) u havent learned the quran yet ..shows from what ever u are talking ! watch
shaim143music 1 year ago
just becoz all the other books were altered ,Allah has promised that he will save the quran from being altered! its all man made mistakes ... but surely ALLAH is the All knowing !
shaim143music 1 year ago
if u know muhammed(pbuh) was the last messenger of ALLAH ! ALLAH says theres no messenger to the mankind after muhammed (pbuh) he is the last one !
shaim143music 1 year ago
the ingeel(gospel of Isa/Jesus) was inbetween the first century and Muhammad PBUH
holypsychopath 1 year ago
Hi I am Muslim, I need to know Why Judaism is only specific to the Israelites, what about the other population whom don`t belong to this religion, knowing that conversion to Judaism is very complicated. - According to Judaism you are in the right path if you where born Jew first - In Islam everybody born Muslim and it their parent who makes him Jew or Christian. which means your are Muslim not because of your genes but you are Muslim according to your behavior.
docflyte 1 year ago
interesting video and I agree with many of UR comments (even as a chistian). It might interest you to note that Muslims also make the same accusations (arguments ?) concerning the validity & accuracy of Christian text.Frankly this entire line of argument is, on it's face, baseless, pathetic & lacks any scholarly coherence. This is not an argument which any believing Christian would EVER consider leveling against the Torah. Is this a tactic to mask the false, superficial nature of Q ?
shieldsff 1 year ago
omedyashar...I see there are lots of ..they..they...they..they...in your clips refering to muslims....It seems you haven't got it yet....you don't follow islam because of they..you follow islam because of it....refering to the quran...if you are going to look at muslims of today and find your way in by looking at the "they" people that you are gonna join...believe me it is better to stay a jew :)....and that's from an arab muslim my friend....the question is simple " DO YOU BELIEVE THE BOOK?"
mzkaddah 1 year ago
To the author of this video:::
Sound strange; but u know what u look like a Muslims to me; whenever I see you the first thing come in my mind is that you are a Muslim.
But then when you speak you insists that you are not.
I don't know y whenever I see u I see a Muslim in you.
Sound strange; right !
Forgive me if you like my saying above. God bless and guide us all.
PinkyFromPK 1 year ago
Boy, we muslims believe jews were blessed with knowledge but you need to do much better, you have the potential to do better!
Mashluv 1 year ago
well my friend The quran no matter what language it is translated into, the original arabic in the quran will always be in the book as well. so no matter whats lost in the translation, will never be lost in the original at is in every copy of the quran.
No matter how well something is translated into another language it can NEVER capture the essence of the original language.
lilmodigity 1 year ago
I think God uses individuals to speak to each nation: For Israel He used Moshe (PBUH); to gentiles, he used Jesus (PBUH), to Arabs He used Muhammed (PBUH), To Asians, He used Buddah (PBUH), etc. I think, in their enthusiasm, these prophet's followers try to reach into other prophets "territories", which is going beyond God's calling. Just my opinion. Shalom
ImSchnitzer 1 year ago
No prophet has ever said they have come for the whole of mankind i.e. from his time till the day of judgement, except Muhammed (pbuh), so logically the laws that come from the Quran should fit in for our society and cure the problems for our society. If the Torah was for all times then it should have the cure for the problems of our society right? Now do a comparison and see which one is better.
ayunus7 1 year ago
Ur right about Muslim/Islam means submission to the will of God and the prophets before were Muslims in that sense. The religion Islam was not complete and was complete.what i mean is that it was complete and the laws were for that time period only according to the theme i.e. era of Moses was magic, era of Jesus was Medicine. Now for our era it is literature. Now by default the Quran should be superior to all other literature right? now read it with 'Tafseer' or with Modern Science :)
ayunus7 1 year ago
i like ur thinking.
however the Torah was for a specific time period only, and so was the Gospels or a specific time period only. The Quran on the other hand is for from the time of Muhammed (pbuh) till the day of judgement. Why? because there will be no prophet with new revelation coming.
Jew or Judaism is not in any of the Jewish books. It came about from when the non-jews said that the ones who follow Judah from Judea have the religion Judaism and are Jews.
ayunus7 1 year ago
I have not sudied the torah, yet, but very interested in doing so.
Yazk17 1 year ago
Yes and now are the MUSLIMS the ones burying girls and women, stoned to death, beaten to death by their husbands and communities, PLEASE GROW UP!! By the other hand that Muhammed took the torah, copied what he thougt was of use and "invented" a new religion out of the religion of Israel. The religion created and inspired by God for thousands of years... The torah was there thousands of years ago... We did not need a new arab version of it.
Gustavkunst 1 year ago
the quran's translation cannot be corrupted because it is in only one language arabic. the bible is in multiple and the torah is just corrupt due to jews changing it. many believed it was not changed but there are torahs in various arabs countries with different verses. God sent Muhammad because times had changed and a new order was needed. God made other religions to show the truth in Islam b/c with out other religions the truth could nt have been proven.
zinedineyzidane 1 year ago
Really good videos!
andrewarbogast1 1 year ago
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God revealed His guidance to Abraham (pbuh) and because of his sincerity and submission to the directives of God, God promised the continuation of His guidance among Abraham's progeny.
THEGREATESTUMMAH 1 year ago
God revealed His guidance to Abraham (pbuh) and because of his sincerity and submission to the directives of God, God promised the continuation of His guidance among Abraham's progeny.
THEGREATESTUMMAH 1 year ago
the world was in darkness before muhammad, europe was burning books and were barbaric, arabs were burying girl children and worshiping wood and stone. like u said , ALLAH DOESN'T LEAVE THE WORLD IN DARKNESS, HE SENT A PROPHET , WHICH WAS MUHAMMAD, TO REVAMP THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE, TO REINSTATE AND REVIVE THE PEOPLE TO THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE. AND THE QURAN HAS NEVER BEEN CHANGED EVER SINCE.. THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE THE SAME.
afghanhunter221 1 year ago
@afghanhunter221
By "darkness" I meant abscence of the authoritiative divine guidance in the world. I was not referring to social darkness of cultures dominated by unlearned individuals supressed by wicked rulers.
The kind of darkness that was in Europe before Muhammad is a darkness continued in Europe loooong long after Muhammad. There are still too many places in the world where such darkness exists.
omedyashar 1 year ago
@afghanhunter221
...I have no problem believing that G-d sent someone to re-vamp, re-instate, and re-vive the original message - but this would be a re-storation of the same laws, not the nullification of earlier laws.
And I do not deny that G-d used Mohammad as a messenger of monotheism to the Arab peoples. I agree that the teaching of Islam as espoused by Muhammad are the same fundamentals as the Torah... except that IF he taught that some eternal commandments were nullified.
omedyashar 1 year ago
@omedyashar what I find interesting is a common trend in your videos. Many of the arguments you make towards those whom comment, never have the decency to defend their arguments. Either because they are half hearted in what they say, or your arguments are untouchable.
mikelunz 1 year ago
You have not done your homework well, you need to talk to Muslim scholars to learn the reality, don't just talk to ignorant Muslims and come to the conclusion.
Take care and don't just give up yet, pray to Allah sincerely for guidance and I hope He will guide you to the true religion of His, and this should not be so difficult for you unless you repeat the same mistake as your forefathers did by rejecting the truth after "recognizing" it.
hbbitube 1 year ago
@omedyashar , well, God is telling you how to worship him throu prophets he sends to the people of this world.. if your going to say no , then thats ur test results. islam fundamentals are not diff then torah, but more laws has come to perfect the way of life for humanity. the 5 pillars of islam, the prophets history and jesus being the christ. the way to pray, everything and anything that is mentioned in islam is the perfected way of God's guidelines of worship.
afghanhunter221 1 year ago
@omedyashar
I would like to share my view.
1. Quran never says Torah was corrupt. But Quran says Jews rabbi or Jews religious leader pronounced it differently which produced different meanings of a single verse.
2. Also Quran says Previous Israelite prophets and their laws belongs only to Israelites. same goes for other prophets.
3. Now when Quran was revealed to Muhammed(pbuh) it was for whole mankind. And hence Quran says it abrogated some laws of previous scriptures and bring better one.
javedmahmood 1 year ago
@omedyashar Salamoalaikum.. I was reading the Quran.. and watched your videos.. I dont think old faiths should be rejected according to the Quran.. All that God says in the Quran is (for the idolaters) Stop idolatry, (for the cruel/tyrants) make peace, (For the Jews) accept Mohammad (pbuh) as the Prophet of God and stay true to what you were taught, (For the christians) stop calling Jesus God's son go back to your true teachings [pure monotheism like jews and muslims]..
Snake2k33 1 year ago 6
@Snake2k33
They still have to fllow Muhammad (pbuh). This is the first pillar of Islam. Belief in one God and Muhammad messenger of God. Don't truncate the message.
"O People! Verily I am the Messenger of God sent to you..." and countless ayat testify to that.
Besides how do you justify the payment of the jizya by the People of the Book if their religion is still valid?
How about the jihad against romans? Aggressive I am talking about up to Spain and Byzantine?
superkugeta 11 months ago
@superkugeta Im not a scholar, and the Quran does not accept all the actions done by Muslims, Wars led by Muslims is not the Quran's fault.. And im not sure about jizya, pretty sure i cant recall it in the Quran (I need to read it up) if it doesnt exist in the Quran that means it should not exist amongst the ideas of the Muslims..
Snake2k33 10 months ago
@Snake2k33 baruch hashem
yomamasofat87 1 day ago
@omedyashar *Those who believe (in the Quran being a Revelation) and those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures) [meaning Yahood/Jews] and the Christians (Followers of Jesus, not his worshipers) and the Sabians - any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve (2:62)* I believe whoever Accepts this message automatically becomes a "Muslim" (One who submits to God)
Snake2k33 1 year ago
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interesting video and I agree with many of UR comments (even as a chistian). It might interest you to note that Muslims also make the same accusations (arguments ?) concerning the validity & accuracy of Christian text.Frankly this entire line of argument is, on it's face, baseless, pathetic & lacks any scholarly coherence. This is not an argument which any believing Christian would EVER consider leveling against the Torah. Is this a tactic to mask the false, superficial nature of Q ?
shieldsff 1 year ago
To all those who like to argue, without any proof or any basis, that the Torah has been changed, then why does it yet contain all the many times that the tribes of Israel sinned? Why does it still contain every wicked deed of every Jewish king, and why does it record even small mistakes?
These could have been taken out of our book, if someone wanted to clean it up. So why didn't they do that?
Because it is forbidden to change even 1 word. And we have to accept the rebuke of our past sins.
72Yonatan 1 year ago 4
@72Yonatan
And according to Torah God banish Israelite from promise land! Is that true? if so than why Jews support the existence of Israel?
I need to know did such verse exist in Torah? cause I saw NY rabbi's saying so.
javedmahmood 1 year ago
Dear Mr Shortie:
The Jew in this video does not say that the Torah has been changed; if so, he would have become a Muslim.
He is only discussing the false claims which Muslims are making against Jews.
And three million people saw the prophecy at time of Moshe, whereas only one Arab saw the prophecy of Quran: Muhammad.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
If you realy a believer with no doubts then why attacking Islam teachings and deducing clearly wrong deductions with very evident scarce knowledge of Islam . hatred will not give you salvation nor light
02997723 2 years ago
I am confused how can some1 call themself that they are submitting to G-d
when they are trying to dig up the old prophet sent only to jew and sorta ignoring the final prophet??
it is really simple we were given a Qur'an and a Sunnah so let just follow what G-d gave us then we can be saved.
suavelyphe 2 years ago
The Quran means recital. It is said to contain the older books. Mohammad (pbuh) said: " I was given the seven long chapters in place of the Torah, the Mieen which is in the place of the Gospel, the similar even chapters which are the Zaboor (David psalms), and was given the Mofassal.
God did not say this was a new religion rather it is the same old religion (Islam).
Only this time, the Torah, and all other books would be memorized by heart and recited daily.
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
You said that the Quran leaves out the 7 Laws for Noah. How can you say that while we still have them and they are still obligatory on us?
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
The Lord said to me [Moses]: What they say is good. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you among their brothers; I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name, I will Myself call him to account. (Deuteronomy 18:179)-
exchangemarketor3 2 years ago
it is very funny that u have spoken about this passage.. because u should read the folowing onees18:19 18:20 etc... were it says that the false prophet shal die... moses did not die mohamed did... prophecie not accomplished no need to folow mohamed because our torah deosnt say so....
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
I thought Deuteronomy includes the death of Moses.
Deuteronomy 34:5 - So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
18:20 Conversely, if a prophet presumptuously makes a declaration in My name when I have not commanded him to do so, or if he speaks in the name of other gods, then that prophet shall die.'
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
and i have no reason to listen to you and what u have to say about the quran not because i dont want to.... because alot of people tried but it deosnt make sense for me that the quran says the jew are the people of the book and then says if you dont beleive me ask the jews they had the truth before you.... and then it says the jews no longeer have the truth....
y would u ask a nation that deosnt have the truth?
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
You brought up the verse: "Then if you are in doubt, then Ask those who read the book from before you.." The verse simply says that it is the truth, ask the early believers back then (Not literally). It is not meant so Mohammad goes back in time and actually ask them. Consider also: Ask the children of Israel, how many clear signs have we given them."?
Again it is to the children of Israel who witnessed the signs back then.
Not everything can be taken literally
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
i didnt mean literaly... i meant if the poeople of israel saying they no longer had the the truth why would the be an eligible people to be asked such a thing... and i dont think actually i know its not talking about the signs but the torah (the book not the signs)...
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
You have to consider that there used to be portions of the Torah in the Hijaz area different from the one you use today. This is mentioned by Kaa'b Al-Ahhbar a Yemenite Jewish scholar who converted to Islam. Those Jewish converts to Islam have also spoken of verses to be contained in the Torah that are not there today referring to the description of Mohammad and verses about Ezra.
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
wow cooooollll... i know alot of musllim scholars who have converted to christianity and judiasm and they say alot of things about the quran... should i beleive them cuz they were muslim scholars?? nop inless they have proof :)
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
Ok. You have the right to say that, but when you have someone like the jewish wife of Mohammad who told what she had heard from her father and uncle about prophet Mohammad being the prophet like Moses, and she believed and they refused, would you not wonder?
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
nop why should i shes no prophet just a regular person...
if u want i have more there this big kabalist from i think the 10th century ppl tought he was the messiah he did miracles and shit but the siq of turkey captured him and told him if ure the messiah either convert to islam or i will kill u and u wont be afraid since u say ure the messiah and he converted... that guy was a big kabalist did miracles jews really starded to beleive. who should i follow more just a random jewish chick or him?
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
If you do not believe the jewish Converts? why dismiss others
"The Nasarenes . . .They acknowledged Moses and believed that he had received laws - not this law, however, but some other. And so, they were Jews who kept all the Jewish observances, but they would not offer sacrifice or eat meat. They considered it unlawful to eat meat or make sacrifices with it. They claim that these Books (of Moses) are fictions, and that none of these customs were instituted by the fathers. (Panarion 1:18)
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
She was mistaken. She believed what she wanted to believe. Like you. Uzeir was the seal of prophets.
malkiel2 2 years ago
Obviously those converts lied to justify the conversion to islam. No jewish "scholar" would ever convert to islam. Torah forbids abrogation completely. Torah is ETERNAL never to be changed. Read Deut. 13:01.
malkiel2 2 years ago
also my book is divine... not one letter has ever been changed... like i said show me one mistake... one relevant mistake not a misenterpretation.. you cant it is impossible... and in my divine book it says the laws the lord has givin us are for eternity....
if mohamed one that propthet talked about in deutronomy where is shabbat and tefillin and all the other laws written in the torah?
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
I can see that you have a good heart, May God guide you to the light of Islam and show you the truth.
You are right that a divine book from God must not have mistakes. However the Old Testament does have errors, and only people make such errors.
watch?v=PRn0iuxkggI
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
nice video... but all these things so called mistakes have all been adressed already 100000 times u think that video is the first one lol... just type them on google there all there
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
i dont know them all but heres christians answer one of them logically :)
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
watch?v=ugFqzreFkJM
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
also reply to this if you want its pretty interesting...
/watch?v=F_OVtVXIAOQsBu1E8U
and let me remind u that the oldest torah scripture is 7bc and is identicsal to the one we have today :)
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
You know that as Muslims we believe in the Torah as a holy book of God, however, we recognize that the scribes had added things in it that are not from God. The Torah its self states that
Jeremiah 8:8
" 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
Muslims do not speak ill of chosen people from God or accuse them of anything like adultery, Drunkness, ...etc.
How can you accept such lies to be truth?
Taqwafirst 2 years ago
my freind muslims use this verse over and over and over again... the verse implies \about some false letters the scribes wrote to the king, theres more to the sentence you should read...
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
any addition or playing around with words/letters is a most serious crime with the divine book. The only 'development' that has taken place with the Qur'an is that the arabs added Explicit Vowels to the Arabic. Even though they themself (the early muslim arabs) knew how to read it, the nonarab muslims could never figure out how to pronounce the words since there were no vowels.
Finally there are about 7 variant '"Readings" of the Qur'an which basically has to do with how to words are'pronounced'
MatrixOfDynamism 2 years ago
if u say the torah is the word of Gd and that Gd is perfect... why would he change his word since his word is perfect...
2nd if u say the torah is holy therefore ure book isnt y because it contradicts it...
3rd whats funny is that u say thaat jews change the torah with time why proof?? u could do the same for as far as i know... but still the orldest torah is 7yrs bc therefor hundreds of year before mohamed even existed and guess what its the same not 1 word chnaged
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm the torah has been changed by churches and the jews were persucted by the church at that time.......the christians changed isiah.....
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
uhm okay...
lets say the christians changed isiah what does that have to do with jews christians changed everything lol there book is full of mistake and they forced us to be christians not to change the writtings... but the 5 book of moses the revelation of gd to moses not one word couldve been change it wouldnt be hallal... the sofer need to check every single letter and space... not onneee . added
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm jews follow the old testamnet isiah is old testament!
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
yes i understand what ure trying to say but still isaias book isnt part of the 5 book of moses wich is called torah... and also like i said christians persucutated us to convert not to change our bible... they changed wtv the wanned didnt matter ours didnt change in any way...im not geting what u r trying to say how is it relevent in anyway
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm ok ok....
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
and if ure so sure of humans changing the torah... name me 1 mistake in the torah... 1 and ill convert....
go on google type mistakes in torah 0 pages do the same with qurran 1000000 pages...(the torah not bible... bible is christians)
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm Noach 6:9 First Reading
These are the chronicles of Noah:
Noah was a righteous man, faultless in his generation. Noah walked with God.
i thought no one can see God and live???? this is made fromeither christians or jews or the chatlic church to kind of prove God is a man.......
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
the translation is false because u cant translate the torah theirs 1000000 different translation for 1 word...
heres what it means word for word translation
Noah a righteous man, faultless in his generation and Gd noah followed ...
i read hebrew what the sentence means is that noah followed the word of G what gd was telling him.
Anything else?
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm oo ok thank you for that.
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm suran2:256. There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
no brother you dont have to convert......
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
wow butifull man i wish veryone would think like u...
me as a jew i have to follow my laws wich include the 7 laws of noah but other nations just have to follow these 7 laws to have a place in the world to come...
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm thanks
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
islam (not the extremist) aplies to these rules
You shall not have any idols before God. You shall not murder. (Genesis 9:6)
You shall not steal. You shall not commit any of a series of sexual prohibitions, which include adultery, incest, bestiality and homosexual acts.
You shall not blaspheme God's name.
Do not eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive. (Genesis 9:4)
Set up a governing body of law
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm true. but you jews have to give prophet Muhammed was a rightoues man or a prophet of hashem in some way to bring arabia back to monthiesm.
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm the Quran gives out how the torah was changed. sura 2:79 Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allâh," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby.
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
and the torah says how the quran and mohamed arnt true... in ure quuran it says if u dont belein in the quuran ask the jews who had the truth before u... y would u ask the jews they wouldnt know they dont have the truth anymore? no?
this videos explains pretty well y jews dont beleive in the quuran...
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
is common knowledge that the Hafs text
and the Warsh text (mainly used in Northwest Africa) are different not only in the vowels but also in some consonants.
Gds book is divine no one should add or remove anything... jews have vowels too but never did they add it to the torah... the same way moses gave it to us we still have it today...
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
since they addded vowels what tells me they didnt add a word??
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
No they did not since they could not. Whenever a copy of Qur'an is written it is checked by Huffaz (the people that have memorized it). Even a single addition of Alif makes the manuscript flawed and it rejected. Besides the Huffaz (who are mostly normal people it terms that they have memorized the whole book but not necessarily high callibre scholars) also keep checking the Qur'ans in the Mosques. To add a single letter in all this time cant happen since Huffaz have been around sinceGeneration1.
MatrixOfDynamism 2 years ago
lol u know whats funny for jews these people are sopher stam... since moses they exist and check every writhing of the torah if a leter is a bit erased then the book is not valid... u cant even add a vowel... if ures are opened to that then it makes the book once again not divine since it has been modified by a human being
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
The Old testament that you have, can it be directly related to the prophets? means that what we have can be directly said to be written or authored by Moses e.t.c?
MatrixOfDynamism 2 years ago
there has always been only ONE Qur'an and main reason for this is that Whole book was memorized by many many people during the 1st generation of muslims and has continued thereafter (even by nonarabs). Besides if Usman or anyone would have tried to forge a copy, the other people that HAD memorized it anyway would have brought it to attention.
MatrixOfDynamism 2 years ago
also , if you want to test if the Koran is added, corrupted. just test the imams of some good musks , think about it. we learn the Koran and preserved it completely in our head. There are millions of ppl who learned the Koran completely and dont have to use the book it self to read the Koran. If some one in the world adds one letter then there will be millions of ppl who can recognize it as corrupt and burn it.
And Allah him self said that he will preserve the Koran.
NONSPAN 2 years ago
The Koran has not been translated, because when we refer to the Koran than We are always referring to the Arabic Text in the book. This text has never been added or changed.
And a misunderstanding among some of us is that the Koran was created after the death of our prophet Mohammed (salla allahu 3alaihi wa sallam). That is a misunderstanding , because the Koran was complete before the Prophet(salla allahu 3alaihi wa sallam) died but not in a book form.
NONSPAN 2 years ago
to the video uploader:
since u were a christian u should know that jesus had said in John 16:12 "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now." And then he goes on to prophecize Muhammad.
That said, logically, if I want to study medical science why can't I directly apply to med-school why do I have to complete high school, then college then i apply to med-school???
Similarly, humans got the Quran when they were able to understand it, humans had more knowledge to grasp it
richie7rich7 2 years ago
In answer to your question about Muhammad and the seal of the prophets. 1) muhammad throughout the Qur'an is referred to as "messenger" because it was given to him, and there are references I think where they say he is the last messenger.
2) Qur'an says to obey the teachings of Muhammad, these teachings Muslims believe, are inspired. They say that Muhammad is the last messenger.
3) The religion is "COMPLETED" for us - and it is called Islam. This is what the Qur'an says.
oombuddah 2 years ago
@oombuddah
actually ur point 3 is something like where Allah says "Today I have completed my favors to you and have perfected your religion"
i.e. no more help and favors of prophets coming and telling us to stop doing wrong things.
Perfected the religion b/c everytime people will corrupt the religion and then god had to send messengers to correct them.
Historians today say that Quran is the only book that maintains its original form. And it will till judgment day.
richie7rich7 2 years ago
torah say dont obey these followings... who to beleive?
how is islam completed if messsiah is still being awaited.. therefore its not complete.
Why should i listen to mohamed who contradicts the law of moses even though he says the torah is divine...
because he says that that booked has been modified?
how does he know? divine knowledge?
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm yes the messiah Jesus is going to come to fulfill the rest of the prophcies...prophet Muhammed is another moses! he doesnt contradict the law of moses there is no such thing as judiasm in the torah....
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
no but theres shabbat? theres the poeple of israel deserve the earth of israel? theres circumsision at 8 days... etc etc etc..
i dont respect any of these.... o right maybe its cuz gd was talking directly to the jews so the muslims dont have to put them on...
and how jesus the messiah since him jews only witnesed persecution... isnt the messiah supose to bring peace....
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm uhh muslims get circumsized.....the messiah is to fulfill the prophcies yes there will be peace in the 2nd coming of Jesus(pbuh)! Islam answers and corrects Judiasm and christianity no disresrepect.
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm Judiasm says there is no hell only spiritul cleaning. where is the justice of God???
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm 'how jesus the messiah since him jews only witnesed persecution... isnt the messiah supose to bring peace.....'
thats because Jews rejected Jesus (pbuh) as a Prophet of Allah and other disobediances... the Jews incurred God's wrath.
exchangemarketor3 2 years ago
@exchangemarketor3
nop gds word is perfect if he says messiah is going to bring peace he knows the messiah is going to bring peace... if theres no peace if the messiah has already arrived therefore the prophecies in the bible is wrong and the book is false
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
it is not like Messiah will give you peace as if you give a book to someone 'In rememberance of God will you only find Peace' (Surah 13:29). So if you do not worship God in the way he wants to be worshipped you will never find Peace in your heart. And besides we muslims believe that Jesus (pbuh) did not die on the cross. he was raised up by Allah and will descend again.From our perspective he is still the messiah of the Jews and the messianic prophecy still refers to Jesus and it is to come...
exchangemarketor3 2 years ago
cool thats good for u... but the torahs prophecies only point out that jesus is not the messiah... deutronomy 13:1 to 5... clearllyyy talks about ppl like jesus...
i dont beleive in your book for one reason only.. it contradicts mine... muslim say that jews dont have the truth anymore.. so go ahead and find me 1 mistake in the torah...
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
hmm interesting that u bring Torah up.The Torah prophesized (Deuteronomy 18:179)- about the Prophet Muhammad. Jews knew down to the location of where he would come...and indeed half the Rabbis of Medina converted to islam at that time--this is a fact look it up if u want to- the other half rejected because the Prophet was not from among the Jews.
find mistake in torah?why? it is easier for me to show you Quran is the literal word of God if you are willing to listen--which i doubt u will.
exchangemarketor3 2 years ago
@exchangemarketor3 Is that why in your hadith muhamed said "if only ten Jews would accept me, all would". Meaning in the whole of muhamed's life less then 10 jews accepted him. The more I learn about islam and koran the more I realize how false islam and koran are. No offense.
malkiel2 1 year ago
btw oldest torah 7bc and its the same as today not 1 letter or vowel changed...
today u have at least 3 or 4 versions of quuran different vowel wich automatically makes it undevine anymore cus a human has modified it
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
@truthisjudiasm The Quran is the orginal arabic its not modern day arabic. yes torah is the oldest. no there is only one Quran thats in arabic.....
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
umm this is for your last video anways bahia faith belive muhammed is the seal of the prophets
Thenicedude3 2 years ago
e go to (2 Chr.8:18) and also (1 Ki.9:28). If the book has even ONE error then it is not worth a penny as it will only misguide you. But the torah and new testament are full of contradictions and confusing statements! My brother the quran was not sent down to put you down or to make you feel uncomfortable, it was sent to guide you. See how merciful Allah is, he wants to save you from the evil works of the old rabis.I swear by Allah, I am not here to offend you, I just want everyone to be guided.
shababfilisteen 2 years ago 4
my brother... please show me a contradiction in the torah :) and i will convert to islam... i am so sure that my torah is holy ai am willing to take that risk since it isnt a risk... i dont beleive i dont feel my heart deosnt tell me what to do... i like facts show me facts... and when u r done not being able to i will show u contradictions and unfullfilled prophecies and unfullfillable prophecies since time has elapsed in you quran...
truthisjudiasm 2 years ago
Quran and present it in a way that flips around the whole meaning of the verse, so I am not goin to do that with the tanakh as I will be a hypocrite. But please open your tanakh and go to ( II Sam.24:9 ) and then ( 1 Chr.21:5 )... this is a numerical contradiction! It does not matter what language it is in, a number is a number! There are MANY contradictions which are not numerical, but I know you will always give a confusing excuse, so I gave you proof that anyone can agree with me. Also pleas
shababfilisteen 2 years ago 4
My brother, the Qur'an was sent down by your Lord that helps you and provides for you in life as well as mine, Allah. He sent it down to clear up the confusion that is in the tawraat, as well as the injeel (gospel) and to guide you. We have a common denominator its just that the children of israel changed the original text. You denied that in your video, but I have no idea how you can say this, it is definitely corrupted.. the thing I hate most about people is when they copy texts from the ^
shababfilisteen 2 years ago 3
it's not a matter of translation.there are so many contradictions in the tanakh ex: Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?(a) God did (2Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2).the bible says"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.(Jeremiah 8:8)"
mercifulislam 2 years ago 2
The main argument that you make about the Torah had been preserved because God will not let people live without a 100% pure book, is not consistent with teh fact that God sent all teh prphits like Noah, Abraham, Lot, Issac, Yusuf, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad.
He sent the prophits because teh peopel moved away and altered teh original message.
God's religion is one but sent multiple times through all messengers and MOhammad is teh final messenger
eng4242 2 years ago 2
I am impressefaith in Allah "the Almighty". A few points for you to consider:
1. Prophet Mohammed said that he has no issue with anyone following Moses's messsage and the ture Torah.
2. If you believe what you have is the true preserved Torah, you just need to make sure it is really preserved.
3. What about the "Oral Torah" ?
5. If Jesus was sent to the sons of Israel, there must have been a purpose, which most likely that the sons of Israel veered off Moses' message.
eng4242 2 years ago