@rare437 You must enjoy talking from your ass I see. The 1st Ones > the entire stargate universe. Ask any fan of both.
Yeah the Vorlons could beat them, according to B5 novels the Vorlons could use billions of swam ships. The Vorlons are the last stage of evolution. The acients will get thier ass handed to them if they ever step foot in B5's universe. I'll bet on it.
@rare437 Because they didn't have them @ coriana VI. That wasn't even a major battle according to the Vorlons.
Also the vorlons hide a lot of their tech and abilities, IE they could access Quantum Space and even 3rd space (bka insta-space). The "ancients" are a slight threat. The vorlons are extremely powerful psychic beings, how do you know they can't block such telepathic attacks?
Also StarGate's ancients don't have **** on Babylon 5's ancients. Sorry, but a race in B5 destroyed an entire universe and it's canon. The 3rd Space Aliens, The Hand, The First Ones (Walkers), The Shadows, and The Vorlons. Each of them could take on stargate's ancients alone and win.
The 3RD Space Aliens = Instantaneous space-travel, hypnotic mind control, and being known for destroying an entire universe. Yeah, they didn't say galaxy. (seen in B5 movie 3RD Space)
@rare437 You should try thinking for yourself. The shadows use a molecular slicer. No amount of armor could stop it (it destroys at an atomic level). A Star Destroyer would be cut clean in half. The main guns on a Vorlon cap ship is even more powerful than a shadow death ray. It's the same weapon the Excalibur uses as a main gun in B5. That ship destroyed another ship 3 times bigger (61 km) than a Super Star Destroyer with one shot. (seen on Crusade)
@rare437 Yeah I'm a huge fan of Babylon 5 but I don't ignore things like the Shadow Vessel reduced to chunks by the 500 megaton blast (he focuses on the vessel in the foreground that wasn't destroyed, while I focus on the one that nearly flew into the bomb when it went off, and later we see chunks of fly towards the screen) It's also amusing how decries me for using books when higher canon doesn't contradict (which is how it works anyhow) while he uses B5Wars over contradicting screen evidence.
@Perion I've noticed that back in the past, he says Shadows can slice planets in half or something. well i've wondered, if they can do that, why do they needed a shitty ass Planet killer
@rare437 He uses power numbers from only one source: a childrens' book called the Star Wars: Incredible Cross Sections, which is non-canon, and calls anyone who suggests either Stargate, Star Trek, Battlestar, or Babylon 5 would defeat even ONE Star Destroyer a troll.
(Star Destroyers explode in Star Wars, why not in debates? LOL.)
@Idazmi7 Battlestar galactica and babylon 5 is mostly right because they don't have the power, but Stargate has the ancients, would would wipe out a fleet of star destroyers with a single thought.
meh, Star wars is generally more powerful then Trek, but against Trek at it's absolute fullest fullest? hell no.
@rare437 The Vorlons could take on all 25,000 Star Destroyers and win. Vorlon ships are built around an extremely powerful main gun. They have shields, bio adaptive armor (weapons hit full damage only once and energy weapons does only 10% damage), Flame beams, high energy lightning guns, and Vorlon Death Rays.
Unlike TIE fighters, Vorlon fighters are drones. They can use huge swarms. Their lightning guns never miss--their attacks are instant and more powerful than a TIE fighter.
@Idazmi7 I agree. An asteroid the size of a small house kills a star destroyer in "Empire Strikes Back." One Star Destroyer would lose to the US Air Force according to that. Just come in their airspace. One B-83 "Gravity Bomb" and it's game over. It's more force than that asteroid.
SW books say how powerful Star Destroyers are, but the films show how weak they are. It's a serious conflict there. Seeing is believing right?
Poor choice of phrase, but excellent observation. I don't know much about B5 tech, as I never watched it myself, but I'm knowledgeable of Star Trek (Non Voyager) technologies.
@rare437 - Have you ever seen what a Shadow battlecrab can do? They can slice a ship clean in half without even causing an explosion. However, like any ship they can be defeated. The battlecrab is actually a living organic vessel that can feel pain. Blow off a spine and it has a good chance of being crippled. Psychic assault will also disable them due to the presence of a pilot.
Gotta give it up for Perion. He's wrong 95% of the time and fighting hard with false data. Go by what you see people, not some C-canon book. Video games are C-canon too, so you can take down a star destroyer with one B-wing? It was done in a game. It's C-canon just like all the BS Perion spam to people.
The Starwars movies overrides everything that comes from Perion. Don't be brainwashed by this dude.
@QuantumNova Yeah and if you go by true canon i.e the movies, no star destroyer has ever achieved feats by trek vessels, nor have they matched the fire power. It took 3 star destroyers in TESB to destroy a small base which means they were producing Megajoules at best while 20 ships in Star Trek destroyed 30% of a planets crust with a single volley. The Enterprise has also displayed Teraton level fire power just with it's Phasers alone and the epsiodes prove this.
star wars is without doubt the most powerfull force of all. They created so many insane devices and ships. They even created a device that would destroy the universe
@meDJSIRIUS It's the second most powerful out of popular Sci-Fi, number one being Doctor Who. Star Wars is actually roughly mid range compared to some Sci-Fi out there, such as Ian Bank's Culture Cycle and Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence, and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagaan.
Cool video, and it does seem like the ships in B5, Star Wars, Star Trek and BSG are comparable enough to make a fight between them interesting (i.e. they all, being visual media, operate at unbelievably short distances and absurdly low speeds for ships that travel through interplanetary and even interstellar space). Throw in a single realistically-imagined warship from a writer with a better grasp of physics (e.g. David Weber), and they'd all be reduced to the status of "target practice."
@xjtkill No, I am not. You're the one that's gay. You're also a moron because you didn't even use the right your. Go back to English class. I'm just another Star Wars fan watching this video and not trying to hide behind my computer.
To represent Star Trek you use USS Voyager to act as the hero ship at the start of the video? That's like having Biggs Darklighter be the hero of A New Hope.
Also, I winced as the photon torpedo hit the AT-AT in the neck. The standard photon torpedo has comparable destructive power as a tactical nuke.
@Waine999 According to the TNG tech manual a standard Photon Torpedo has a theretical maximum yield of 25 Isotons which can destroy a major city within seconds.
@satyrquaze But common sense say that single photon torpedo doesn't blow up city blocks as Galaxy class starship is about 643 meters long. Though it's possible that maximum detonation range of the torpedo is limited to guarantee penetration trough shields and heavy armor.
@Waine999 What of the effects of vacuum or the fact that shields are designed to absorb the force of such a detonation. There's also the probable fact that major cities nor AT-ATs are made of the same materials as Starships.
@satyrquaze I could say that photon torpedo blown up in empty space still won't reach detonation range nor power of standard W88 tactical nuke. (475kt?)
But shall we continue this conversation in say, hundred years when laws of physics have been turned upside down and we can both have little more information on the subject?
@Waine999 Orr... we could simply take what is seen or spoken on the screen as canon and accept it as fact for the purposes of fan videos such as this.
When a Star Trek episode shows that the phase-cannons of the NX-01 can annihilate a mountain larger than Everest or Harry Kim says that a 25 Isoton photon torpedo can destroy a major city and isn't contradicted by a superior officer, I think we can safely accept these things as facts (at least) this science fiction universe.
@satyrquaze Problem is Isoton means nothing, destroy a major city means little (since there is a wide range of definitions of "destroy") observed yields are no greater than several megatons, the tech manuals have 24 megatons when fired at a target in space with 48 megatons in atmosphere since in space half of the blast goes off in the opposite direction from the target. (64 megaton max theoretical, but the torps are at 74% efficiency) The tech manuals for trek are non-canon however.
@satyrquaze As for the Torpedo blast, The actual Voyager show made that very mistake in "Alliances" where a trio of photon torpedoes make even smaller blasts in a crowded city. This during a time where Voyager's torpedoes were at a premium, so it's unlikely that they would waste them on low yield shots rather than simply use their phasers.
@Perion Voyager's writing of Star Trek tech was eratic at best. Let alone the fact that they lost more shuttles than Voyager could have possibly been equiped with. Just because it was shown that way in one bad episode of Voyager doesn't mean we should accept it as 'bible'. A single photon torpedo blew off the port nacelle of the USS Reliant in TWoK. I really don't think a starship hull is any softer than the plating on an AT-AT.
@satyrquaze Depends greatly on what the hull of the starship is made out of. For example, in Star Trek, Duranium and Tritanium were only used on Starships from TNG onwards (in TOS they used weaker materials) throughout Trek the holy grail of Armour materials has been Neutronium, which so far only a handful of races have managed to utilize. In Star Wars Neutronium has been the standard for thousands of years, and AT-ATs are known to have plating graded for starship hulls.
@Perion Which be fine and dandy except for two observations. 1) There is zero chance that Neutronium is the same alloy in both universes: The Doomsday Machine was made of pure Neutronium, and not only did it completely ignore weapons-fire from any starship, but it was regularly bombarded by asteroids as a matter of course as it carved up, shattered, and then consumed planets. Compare that the Star Destroyer Entor, which had its bridge wrecked by a single asteroid strike during ESB.
@Perion and 2) The photon torpedo strikes the AT-AT in the neck area. Which was regarded in ESB as the weak-point in the AT-AT's armor, rendering the point you made moot. Unless for some reason asteroids in the Star Wars universe are infinitely more dense in the Star Wars universe than anywhere else... such as reality.
@satyrquaze How does them attacking it's weak point to avoid trying to shoot through it's armour make my point moot? if anything again it serves only to reinforce it.
@Perion Nope, you forget that as described, a photon torpedo, as described in all source material, is a WMD. It wouldn't matter where it struck the AT-AT, as the surrounding landscape should have been leveled. After all, even the NX-01 was capable of levelling mountains with it's phase cannons.
@satyrquaze Actually that's not true, the Doomsday Machine could ignore fire from a Constution class Starship, but a sufficiently powerful ship would be fully capable of obliterating it. Also the asteroid strike in ESB proves nothing since the USS Jenolan (a TMP/Wrath of khan era ship)took out a long gash of the surface of the Dyson Sphere, which was a Carbon Neutronium Alloy, in fact, if anything those two instances serve as evidence that they are indeed the same thing.
@satyrquaze Actually that's not true, the Doomsday Machine could ignore fire from a Constution Class Starship or two yes, but a sufficiently powerful ship would be fully capable of obliterating it. Also the asteroid strike in ESB proves nothing since the USS Jenolan (a TMP/Wrath of khan era ship) took out a long gash of the surface of the Dyson Sphere, which was a Carbon Neutronium Alloy, in fact, if anything those two instances serve as evidence that they are indeed the same thing.
@Perion There is a world of difference between and asteroid strike on a spaceship and a crash landing onto the surface a Dyson Sphere. Completely different forces are at play. I think the carbon make-up of the Dyson Sphere can safely explain any damage to it. You might survive a crash landing, you are not going to survive a direct asteroid strike. But, we may as well agree to disagree.
@satyrquaze Not really, both are kinetic impacts and we've seen how much damage the Enterprise D suffered while sliding out on dirt and trees which hit it so hard that it was beyond repair, while the Jenolan just needed a few touch ups and was under way, also, the very fact that any damage was made points to them being the same thing. Also, keep in mind that the "Neutronium" used in starship hulls of both franchises is NOT pure Neutrons like that of a Neutron star.
@satyrquaze Since it's not identifiable as Voyager, just tell yourself it's the USS Intrepid or USS Bellerophon, or one of the other Intrepid-Class ships.
this was made waaaay before the crosssections madness. Back when Voyager and DS9 were still on TV.
Back when people thought a galaxy class starship didn't have structural integrity of wet paper bag And a stardestroy didn't have petaton tubro laser..
@Perion Not so sure about the Ancients, they knew how to put together some excellent vessels. I call the Aurora-class and the Atlantis-class as exhibits A and B. As for the Tau'ri, the Daedalus-class warship was capable of giving as good as it got, especially after the Asgard gave the Tau'ri everything.
@Incadazant01 Keep in mind that while the Stargate universes power levels are generally much greater than that of Star Trek (each shot from a Goa'uld Ha'tak is worth roughly 8 or so photon torpedoes) They are still a long way from approaching Star Wars level (each shot from an acclamator is worth 1,000 shots from a Goa'uld Ha'tak) So while Ori ships are powerful by Stargate Standards, they would be rather unremarkable by Star Wars standards.
@Incadazant01 because this video isn't exactly the most accurate to the relative power levels of the respective ships, otherwise The ISD would pretty much steamroll over everything, that is unless the TARDIS shows up.
@lonstar70 While on screen footage has Photon Torpedoes in the mid range Kiloton to single digit megaton yields, the (admittedly non-canon) Technical Manuals say they carry 1.5 kilograms of antimatter and presumably react with another 1.5kg of matter at 74% efficiency. E=mc2 gives us 48 megatons, however in space half of that is going to go off in the opposite direction as the blast explodes all around. So even on a direct hit only 50% of that is going to do any damage to the ship/shields.
@lonstar70 The Goa'uld Ha'taks weapons are 200 megatons per shot, as calculated based on how many shots their shields can withstand (their shield strength is calculated by the fact that they can tank a Multimegaton nuke laced with naquadah which then becomes a multigigaton nuke, but can't tank weaponry that is significantly more powerful/concentrated)
Acclamator firepower comes from the canon (different companies have different policies) Cross Sections book, which gives the numbers flat out.
@Perion Is that Babylon 5 lingo? I never watched that show. How do you know the power of Starfleet, Rebel Alliance, and Empire weapons? And which BSG do you follow? The old one with lasers or the new one that just uses bullets?
@lonstar70 As said the Cross Sections book as well as several scenes in the film gives us an idea of the power of Empire Weapons, which by extension a ballpark for the Rebel Alliance as well. As for B5, The Nukes used to bust up Shadow vessels were 500-600 megatons in yield according to G'Kar, and Mimbari ships have been destroyed by much much less (though they rely on advanced ECM rather than shields or armour). My other post explains where firepower estimates of Starfleet torpedoes come from.
I prefer the original BSG rather than the emofest that is the newer one, but the technology difference between the two as far as firepower is concerned isn't that huge comparitively speaking. OBSG ships and fighters would have no trouble against their NBSG counterparts, but neither would be able to stand against a Star Destroyer nor would both combined if they teamed up to face one.
@tbone1975uk actually if they followed the source materials of the respective franchises, the Star Destroyer would have effortlessly annihilated the entire opposing fleet.
@Perion er.. I hate to be the one to tell you this but... well it's not real. It didn't happen. It's entertainment. You know, good guys beating the bad guys. It remarks like yours that give sci-fi fans a bad name.
@tbone1975uk There is such a thing as continuity. Break continuity and you break suspension of disbelief and you break the credibility of the story (along with making it a mindless slugging match).
The Good guys can still win even if they cannot through a direct fight (a high ranking imperial defector / sympathiser for just one better example.)
Unless you want it to be as vacuous and cliche/predictable as Freddy vs Jason or the Aliens vs Predator films.
@Perion well i like Star trek the best tough BSG comes realy close in the second place. as for technologies, i think Star wars is the most advanced, then comes star trekm and then bsg, as for babylon, i havent watched any of it so i dont know
@ugaboj Cool, B5 is tricky to grade tech wise compared to Star Trek and BSG, I'd say it's somewhere in Between for the younger races and higher than Trek (but below Star Wars) for the First Ones.
@Perion Actually, Star Trek has more much technically advanced ships than Star Wars. Their ships are also much better at improvising. I'd have to give it to B5 if they had Whitestars, though.
@Verixus113 Nope, Star Wars weapons and shields are enormously powerful, to put it into perspective.
BSG Nukes: 70 kilotons to 1 megaton tacticals 50 megaton strategics (used for orbital bombardment and attacking shipyards)
B5 Nukes: 2 Megatons to 500/600 megatons (2 used to destroy the capital city of Za'ha'dum, 1 used to destroy Shadow Battle Crabs and cripple others nearby)
Star Wars: 6 Megaton Light Turbolasers, 200 gigaton Medium Turbolasers, 13 Teraton Heavy Turbolasers.
The previous weapons mentioned are used in very limited quantity by the series portrayed, Trek ships have generally 2 to 4 launchers on all but their most heavily armed vessels, B5 rarely launch them at all, and BSG likewise.
Star Wars on the other hand use weapons of such magnitude like BSG use railguns, B5 use pulse turrets, or Trek use phasers.
While we see Trek ships improvise allot, it should be noted that none of those would work on a Star Wars vessel. I have yet to see a technobable solution that would have any effect on an Imperial vessel. It would be beyond silly to assume that they could devise one given the precedents where they were incapable of doing so to certain races and had to talk/bluff their way out of being disintegrated.
@Verixus113 BSG in dialogue refer to their nukes as Class D warheads, no yields are given but real world Class D warheads are 70 kilotons to 1 megaton. In the miniseries, Adama states that the Cylons are bombing Caprica with 50 megaton nukes.
B5 Nuke yields are given in the episodes, a pair of 2 megaton nukes are used to destroy the black star in "in the begining" the yield stated on screen, G'Kar states the yields of the others when delivering them to Ivonova.
Star Trek Photon Torpedo yields are trickier to measure, they only use the made up and meaningless "Isoton" unit to describe them. On screen observed and implied yields given their effects on asteroids etc are closer to 1 megaton. The 24 megaton yield comes from the admittedly non-canon Tech manuals, so it's being generous. the 43 gigaton Cardassian Dreadnought is the max theoretical yield given the payload of one ton of antimatter with one ton of matter.
The Star Wars Turbolaser yields can be observed on screen, as we see light turbolasers vapourize asteroids in ESB in 1/15th of a second, requiring the equivalent energy of a 6 megaton nuke, concentrated and focused. The Ship to Ship weaponry cannot be gauged on screen as they are never seen firing on anything other than other ships, which are made of super duper materials and have shields. The Canon tech books such as the Complete Cross Sections gives us the 200 gigaton figure.
Scaling and extrapolating the reactor size and power generation capabilities of known ships in star wars with that of the Imperial I class Star Destroyer, as well as the stated ability to divert all power to weapons, and making some divisions (1/3 of the reactor power to weapons, another 1/3 to shields and the rest to engines under normal circumstances, the reactor normally being run at 1/6th capacity to conserve fuel, and the power divided between the weapons depending on type.)
Great work! I only wish that when the Destroyer perusing Galactica in the final scene, got a shower of fire on it; like what the Enterprise and Excelsior gave Chang's bird of Prey in "the undiscovered country". Imagine battle ships/fighters from ST, B5 and Galactica bringing the rain on that Destroyer. That would be choice! It even would've been sweeter if they jumped to Proxima3 and destroyed the Destroyer at B5.
You know, Star Wars isn't necessarily the most powerful hands down, but they are the most technologically advanced, they have technology that makes all the rest of these peeps ships look like toasters with machine guns strapped to them...(Go away, I already patented it....)
And a good commentary to sci-fi television comparisons in general. You usually have people having Sci-Fi "measuring" contests on which series is the best and who can kick the others butt. Trek, B5, Galactica and Star Wars are individual stories and are great in their own right. This vid is great because it kinda let's one know that each show in it's greatness can exsist in the Sci-Fi realm.
@scarabY2k As far as I'm concerned which series is "the best" and who can kick the others butt are two completely different things. Especially considering which series is "The Best" is based on personal preference. While who can beat who is established by the companies, intentionally or not.
And then the death Star comes fling out of nowhere and blows everyone back to Hell. But the death Star couldnt make a cameo cause it was busy doing a Pizza Hut commercial.
@Perion No. That is exactly why fighters were mass progduced. Simple, effective. And you just pulled 3000gs off the top of your head. That would cause the fighter to shred itself apart.
Frankly, you guys should read up on some of this, and back it up with decent science.
The USS Dauntless wasn't a FED. ship. They weren't on anyones side. (Borg Maybe)
Entertaining, but doesn't count the ships true attributes whatsoever.
Think I'll stop watching this kind of stuff. Always pisses me off.
@sdk2013 no, I didn't pull 3000gs off the top of my head, in fact I was being exceedingly conservative with it since I couldn't remember the exact figure, but it's actually well over 5000gs. Clearly they have durable enough fighters that they would not shred themselves apart. The actual figure, for another shieldless, simple, effective and mass produced fighter (of the Clone Wars that the TIE was meant to replace as it outperforms it considerably) is precisely 5200gs
@sdk2013 Consider the fact that the TIE Advanced X1 was state of the art, and was only mildly superior in performance to the regular TIE Fighter, the myth that TIEs are cheap, expendable pieces of crap is just that a Myth. The films say otherwise.
If Clone War fighters were so great, Vader would have used one of those during the Battle of Yavin, not a custom TIE Fighter that's only slightly faster and more manoeuvrable than the stock model.
I don't care what all you say... Stargate is my Favorite show!!
ZzMattizZ 1 week ago
The Ancients from Stargate, lossing to the Vorlons? are you high or something?
the Ancients would solo B5 like it was a casual sunday
rare437 1 week ago
@rare437 You must enjoy talking from your ass I see. The 1st Ones > the entire stargate universe. Ask any fan of both.
Yeah the Vorlons could beat them, according to B5 novels the Vorlons could use billions of swam ships. The Vorlons are the last stage of evolution. The acients will get thier ass handed to them if they ever step foot in B5's universe. I'll bet on it.
QuantumNova 1 week ago
@QuantumNova Because the Vorlons are totally beating a race of ascended beings who could wipe out fleets with a thought.
they wouldn't even touch the Ancients, let alone beat them. those "Billions of Swarm ships" didn't even help them at Coriana VI
rare437 4 days ago
@rare437 Because they didn't have them @ coriana VI. That wasn't even a major battle according to the Vorlons.
Also the vorlons hide a lot of their tech and abilities, IE they could access Quantum Space and even 3rd space (bka insta-space). The "ancients" are a slight threat. The vorlons are extremely powerful psychic beings, how do you know they can't block such telepathic attacks?
QuantumNova 4 days ago
@QuantumNova the Vorlons haven't shown, or even been sudgested to have, anywhere near the power of the Ancients
rare437 4 days ago
@rare437 Babylon 5 novels for the win.
QuantumNova 3 days ago
@QuantumNova so in the novels, the Vorlons can block mind attacks that destroy entire fleets?
rare437 3 days ago
Also StarGate's ancients don't have **** on Babylon 5's ancients. Sorry, but a race in B5 destroyed an entire universe and it's canon. The 3rd Space Aliens, The Hand, The First Ones (Walkers), The Shadows, and The Vorlons. Each of them could take on stargate's ancients alone and win.
The 3RD Space Aliens = Instantaneous space-travel, hypnotic mind control, and being known for destroying an entire universe. Yeah, they didn't say galaxy. (seen in B5 movie 3RD Space)
QuantumNova 1 week ago
@rare437 You should try thinking for yourself. The shadows use a molecular slicer. No amount of armor could stop it (it destroys at an atomic level). A Star Destroyer would be cut clean in half. The main guns on a Vorlon cap ship is even more powerful than a shadow death ray. It's the same weapon the Excalibur uses as a main gun in B5. That ship destroyed another ship 3 times bigger (61 km) than a Super Star Destroyer with one shot. (seen on Crusade)
Seems I'm the only B5 expert here.
QuantumNova 1 week ago
I think you should update this, as it would be so cool.
jimmypop1222 1 week ago
Why don't people ever make these kinds of videos any more!?
starflame34 2 weeks ago
the Xeelee come in and wipe out everyone. Nothing in SW, ST, BSG or B5 can even hold a candle to them.
Shadows, Vorlons, Empire, Federation? pfft, weak sauce
rare437 1 month ago
@rare437 Yeah compared to anything short of the Xeelee's own arch enemies, there isn't really anything the others can do.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion I agree. well, until Quantumnova comes in saying the Vorlons and Shadows are more impressive...
rare437 4 weeks ago
@rare437 Yeah I'm a huge fan of Babylon 5 but I don't ignore things like the Shadow Vessel reduced to chunks by the 500 megaton blast (he focuses on the vessel in the foreground that wasn't destroyed, while I focus on the one that nearly flew into the bomb when it went off, and later we see chunks of fly towards the screen) It's also amusing how decries me for using books when higher canon doesn't contradict (which is how it works anyhow) while he uses B5Wars over contradicting screen evidence.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion I've noticed that back in the past, he says Shadows can slice planets in half or something. well i've wondered, if they can do that, why do they needed a shitty ass Planet killer
rare437 4 weeks ago
@rare437 That doesn't even blow up the planets, just wipes out all life on them.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion Exacly. well, he's either a delusional B5tard or just a troll
rare437 4 weeks ago
@rare437 You do know that Perion is also a troll?
Idazmi7 1 week ago
@Idazmi7 what exacly makes him a troll, please elaborate.
from what i've seen, he isn't. you want a real troll, talk to Quantumnova
rare437 1 week ago
@rare437 He uses power numbers from only one source: a childrens' book called the Star Wars: Incredible Cross Sections, which is non-canon, and calls anyone who suggests either Stargate, Star Trek, Battlestar, or Babylon 5 would defeat even ONE Star Destroyer a troll.
(Star Destroyers explode in Star Wars, why not in debates? LOL.)
Idazmi7 1 week ago
@Idazmi7 Battlestar galactica and babylon 5 is mostly right because they don't have the power, but Stargate has the ancients, would would wipe out a fleet of star destroyers with a single thought.
meh, Star wars is generally more powerful then Trek, but against Trek at it's absolute fullest fullest? hell no.
rare437 1 week ago
@rare437 I agree about Galacticaand Bab 5...
But not about Star Trek.
/watch?v=QN2ZrTpvIss
Idazmi7 1 week ago
@rare437 The Vorlons could take on all 25,000 Star Destroyers and win. Vorlon ships are built around an extremely powerful main gun. They have shields, bio adaptive armor (weapons hit full damage only once and energy weapons does only 10% damage), Flame beams, high energy lightning guns, and Vorlon Death Rays.
Unlike TIE fighters, Vorlon fighters are drones. They can use huge swarms. Their lightning guns never miss--their attacks are instant and more powerful than a TIE fighter.
QuantumNova 1 week ago
@Idazmi7 I agree. An asteroid the size of a small house kills a star destroyer in "Empire Strikes Back." One Star Destroyer would lose to the US Air Force according to that. Just come in their airspace. One B-83 "Gravity Bomb" and it's game over. It's more force than that asteroid.
SW books say how powerful Star Destroyers are, but the films show how weak they are. It's a serious conflict there. Seeing is believing right?
QuantumNova 1 week ago
@QuantumNova "Seeing is believing right?"
Poor choice of phrase, but excellent observation. I don't know much about B5 tech, as I never watched it myself, but I'm knowledgeable of Star Trek (Non Voyager) technologies.
Idazmi7 1 week ago
@rare437 - Have you ever seen what a Shadow battlecrab can do? They can slice a ship clean in half without even causing an explosion. However, like any ship they can be defeated. The battlecrab is actually a living organic vessel that can feel pain. Blow off a spine and it has a good chance of being crippled. Psychic assault will also disable them due to the presence of a pilot.
Sparrow9612 2 weeks ago
@Sparrow9612 Ok...?
that prooves what exacly?
rare437 1 week ago
Gotta give it up for Perion. He's wrong 95% of the time and fighting hard with false data. Go by what you see people, not some C-canon book. Video games are C-canon too, so you can take down a star destroyer with one B-wing? It was done in a game. It's C-canon just like all the BS Perion spam to people.
The Starwars movies overrides everything that comes from Perion. Don't be brainwashed by this dude.
QuantumNova 1 month ago
@QuantumNova Yeah and if you go by true canon i.e the movies, no star destroyer has ever achieved feats by trek vessels, nor have they matched the fire power. It took 3 star destroyers in TESB to destroy a small base which means they were producing Megajoules at best while 20 ships in Star Trek destroyed 30% of a planets crust with a single volley. The Enterprise has also displayed Teraton level fire power just with it's Phasers alone and the epsiodes prove this.
NANOFORGE 2 weeks ago
Pretty damned awesome bit of video making. Loved the appearance of the Earthforce ships from Bab 5!!!
IlliniDave68 1 month ago
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TheSZZy 1 month ago
star wars is without doubt the most powerfull force of all. They created so many insane devices and ships. They even created a device that would destroy the universe
meDJSIRIUS 1 month ago
@meDJSIRIUS It's the second most powerful out of popular Sci-Fi, number one being Doctor Who. Star Wars is actually roughly mid range compared to some Sci-Fi out there, such as Ian Bank's Culture Cycle and Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence, and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagaan.
Perion 1 month ago
I like the appearance of the Earth Force Destroyers and fighters, but I wonder why they didn't put Shadow ships on the other side.
x82ndODSTx 1 month ago
at 0:27 what ship is that
hrd2fd 1 month ago
@hrd2fd Voyager
bananaramamark 1 month ago
that was very cool....very good work
mdtdragon 1 month ago
there was alsi sine babylon 5 ships in there too
staircasewars 1 month ago
this battle was on;y ever between star wars and star trek
141Wingman 2 months ago
I thought star wars was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away before the Solar system was created :P
11JohnThomas11 2 months ago
@11JohnThomas11 There is no quantified "time" in a long time ago, it could mean hundreds of years, could mean thousands, millions, billions etc.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion its obviously not going to be hundreds but surely a different galaxy?
11JohnThomas11 1 month ago
@11JohnThomas11 Far Far away, which again is deliberately left unspecified.
Perion 1 month ago
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Cool video, and it does seem like the ships in B5, Star Wars, Star Trek and BSG are comparable enough to make a fight between them interesting (i.e. they all, being visual media, operate at unbelievably short distances and absurdly low speeds for ships that travel through interplanetary and even interstellar space). Throw in a single realistically-imagined warship from a writer with a better grasp of physics (e.g. David Weber), and they'd all be reduced to the status of "target practice."
fader2011 2 months ago
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fader2011 2 months ago
obviously Babylon 5 is getting owned
omega7628 3 months ago
I'm a Star Wars and Sci-Fi fan but it resolución is hilarious than people argue about non existing things and take them as facts
FallasDeOrigen1 3 months ago
Enterprise VS Falcon. That got to be interesting.
kiki95ism 3 months ago
@kiki95ism your gay
xjtkill 2 months ago
@xjtkill No, I am not. You're the one that's gay. You're also a moron because you didn't even use the right your. Go back to English class. I'm just another Star Wars fan watching this video and not trying to hide behind my computer.
kiki95ism 2 months ago
@kiki95ism that is the right your.
xjtkill 2 months ago
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romeedee 1 month ago
whats the song after "Qui-Gon's Noble End"?
DIVOTMOVIES 3 months ago
Dude! Thanks for your time and hard work! that was entertaining!! Cool concept too. :)
Theshamus001 3 months ago
this is stupid star wars is way better
ngjty 3 months ago
Cool this was made years back now redo it all using new graphics and stuff.
SR71ABCD 3 months ago
To represent Star Trek you use USS Voyager to act as the hero ship at the start of the video? That's like having Biggs Darklighter be the hero of A New Hope.
Also, I winced as the photon torpedo hit the AT-AT in the neck. The standard photon torpedo has comparable destructive power as a tactical nuke.
satyrquaze 3 months ago
@satyrquaze Not really. Quantum torpedo has.
Waine999 3 months ago
@Waine999 According to the TNG tech manual a standard Photon Torpedo has a theretical maximum yield of 25 Isotons which can destroy a major city within seconds.
satyrquaze 3 months ago
@satyrquaze But common sense say that single photon torpedo doesn't blow up city blocks as Galaxy class starship is about 643 meters long. Though it's possible that maximum detonation range of the torpedo is limited to guarantee penetration trough shields and heavy armor.
And yes, that AT-AT didn't get what it deserved.
Waine999 3 months ago
@Waine999 What of the effects of vacuum or the fact that shields are designed to absorb the force of such a detonation. There's also the probable fact that major cities nor AT-ATs are made of the same materials as Starships.
satyrquaze 3 months ago
@satyrquaze I could say that photon torpedo blown up in empty space still won't reach detonation range nor power of standard W88 tactical nuke. (475kt?)
But shall we continue this conversation in say, hundred years when laws of physics have been turned upside down and we can both have little more information on the subject?
Waine999 3 months ago
@Waine999 Orr... we could simply take what is seen or spoken on the screen as canon and accept it as fact for the purposes of fan videos such as this.
When a Star Trek episode shows that the phase-cannons of the NX-01 can annihilate a mountain larger than Everest or Harry Kim says that a 25 Isoton photon torpedo can destroy a major city and isn't contradicted by a superior officer, I think we can safely accept these things as facts (at least) this science fiction universe.
satyrquaze 3 months ago
@satyrquaze Problem is Isoton means nothing, destroy a major city means little (since there is a wide range of definitions of "destroy") observed yields are no greater than several megatons, the tech manuals have 24 megatons when fired at a target in space with 48 megatons in atmosphere since in space half of the blast goes off in the opposite direction from the target. (64 megaton max theoretical, but the torps are at 74% efficiency) The tech manuals for trek are non-canon however.
Perion 1 month ago
@satyrquaze As for the Torpedo blast, The actual Voyager show made that very mistake in "Alliances" where a trio of photon torpedoes make even smaller blasts in a crowded city. This during a time where Voyager's torpedoes were at a premium, so it's unlikely that they would waste them on low yield shots rather than simply use their phasers.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion Voyager's writing of Star Trek tech was eratic at best. Let alone the fact that they lost more shuttles than Voyager could have possibly been equiped with. Just because it was shown that way in one bad episode of Voyager doesn't mean we should accept it as 'bible'. A single photon torpedo blew off the port nacelle of the USS Reliant in TWoK. I really don't think a starship hull is any softer than the plating on an AT-AT.
satyrquaze 1 month ago
@satyrquaze Depends greatly on what the hull of the starship is made out of. For example, in Star Trek, Duranium and Tritanium were only used on Starships from TNG onwards (in TOS they used weaker materials) throughout Trek the holy grail of Armour materials has been Neutronium, which so far only a handful of races have managed to utilize. In Star Wars Neutronium has been the standard for thousands of years, and AT-ATs are known to have plating graded for starship hulls.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion Which be fine and dandy except for two observations. 1) There is zero chance that Neutronium is the same alloy in both universes: The Doomsday Machine was made of pure Neutronium, and not only did it completely ignore weapons-fire from any starship, but it was regularly bombarded by asteroids as a matter of course as it carved up, shattered, and then consumed planets. Compare that the Star Destroyer Entor, which had its bridge wrecked by a single asteroid strike during ESB.
satyrquaze 1 month ago
@Perion and 2) The photon torpedo strikes the AT-AT in the neck area. Which was regarded in ESB as the weak-point in the AT-AT's armor, rendering the point you made moot. Unless for some reason asteroids in the Star Wars universe are infinitely more dense in the Star Wars universe than anywhere else... such as reality.
satyrquaze 1 month ago
@satyrquaze How does them attacking it's weak point to avoid trying to shoot through it's armour make my point moot? if anything again it serves only to reinforce it.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion Nope, you forget that as described, a photon torpedo, as described in all source material, is a WMD. It wouldn't matter where it struck the AT-AT, as the surrounding landscape should have been leveled. After all, even the NX-01 was capable of levelling mountains with it's phase cannons.
satyrquaze 1 month ago
@satyrquaze Considering how hard Enterprise Rapes continuity, everything in there has to be taken with a pound of salt.
Perion 1 month ago
@satyrquaze Actually that's not true, the Doomsday Machine could ignore fire from a Constution class Starship, but a sufficiently powerful ship would be fully capable of obliterating it. Also the asteroid strike in ESB proves nothing since the USS Jenolan (a TMP/Wrath of khan era ship)took out a long gash of the surface of the Dyson Sphere, which was a Carbon Neutronium Alloy, in fact, if anything those two instances serve as evidence that they are indeed the same thing.
Perion 1 month ago
@satyrquaze Actually that's not true, the Doomsday Machine could ignore fire from a Constution Class Starship or two yes, but a sufficiently powerful ship would be fully capable of obliterating it. Also the asteroid strike in ESB proves nothing since the USS Jenolan (a TMP/Wrath of khan era ship) took out a long gash of the surface of the Dyson Sphere, which was a Carbon Neutronium Alloy, in fact, if anything those two instances serve as evidence that they are indeed the same thing.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion There is a world of difference between and asteroid strike on a spaceship and a crash landing onto the surface a Dyson Sphere. Completely different forces are at play. I think the carbon make-up of the Dyson Sphere can safely explain any damage to it. You might survive a crash landing, you are not going to survive a direct asteroid strike. But, we may as well agree to disagree.
satyrquaze 1 month ago
@satyrquaze Not really, both are kinetic impacts and we've seen how much damage the Enterprise D suffered while sliding out on dirt and trees which hit it so hard that it was beyond repair, while the Jenolan just needed a few touch ups and was under way, also, the very fact that any damage was made points to them being the same thing. Also, keep in mind that the "Neutronium" used in starship hulls of both franchises is NOT pure Neutrons like that of a Neutron star.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion Either way, neither of us is going to convince the other, let's just agree to disagree.
satyrquaze 1 month ago
@satyrquaze Suit yourself
Perion 1 month ago
@satyrquaze Since it's not identifiable as Voyager, just tell yourself it's the USS Intrepid or USS Bellerophon, or one of the other Intrepid-Class ships.
DoomShepherd 3 months ago
Good video.
MrKellG 3 months ago
this was made waaaay before the crosssections madness. Back when Voyager and DS9 were still on TV.
Back when people thought a galaxy class starship didn't have structural integrity of wet paper bag And a stardestroy didn't have petaton tubro laser..
Raneko 4 months ago
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STAR WARS KICKS ASS.
pumpkin545 4 months ago
The Star Destroyers would have won if they have the death star with them
xjtkill 4 months ago
@xjtkill To be honest they don't even need it, but that's if we're going full on lore accuracy here.
Perion 4 months ago
2:15 That Star Destroyer was RAPED.
pinoi78 4 months ago
phasers we dont need your frakking phasers.
gunslinger6792 4 months ago
Why didn't the Ori, Wraith, Ancients and Tau'ri (humans of Earth) get invited? There woulda been some good bashing handed out then!
Incadazant01 4 months ago
@Incadazant01 yeah, except the factions you just listed would be on the receiving end.
Perion 4 months ago
@Perion Not so sure about the Ancients, they knew how to put together some excellent vessels. I call the Aurora-class and the Atlantis-class as exhibits A and B. As for the Tau'ri, the Daedalus-class warship was capable of giving as good as it got, especially after the Asgard gave the Tau'ri everything.
Incadazant01 4 months ago
@Perion Oh, and the Ori took out a massive fleet with only four or five ships. That was a battle on par with the DS9 battle, Sacrifice of Angels.
Incadazant01 4 months ago
@Incadazant01 Keep in mind that while the Stargate universes power levels are generally much greater than that of Star Trek (each shot from a Goa'uld Ha'tak is worth roughly 8 or so photon torpedoes) They are still a long way from approaching Star Wars level (each shot from an acclamator is worth 1,000 shots from a Goa'uld Ha'tak) So while Ori ships are powerful by Stargate Standards, they would be rather unremarkable by Star Wars standards.
Perion 4 months ago
@Perion Then why did it seem that Starfleet was taking names and whooping ass on a Star Wars vessel?
Incadazant01 4 months ago
@Incadazant01 because this video isn't exactly the most accurate to the relative power levels of the respective ships, otherwise The ISD would pretty much steamroll over everything, that is unless the TARDIS shows up.
Perion 4 months ago
@Perion True. But based on the way this vid was going, the Stargate ships would have fun as well.
Incadazant01 4 months ago
@Incadazant01 So unbiased. Not.
Idazmi7 4 months ago
@Incadazant01 Perion is always biased.
Idazmi7 4 months ago
@Perion Where the Hell do you people get these figures? How do you know how much power 8 photon torpedoes have?
lonstar70 4 months ago
@lonstar70 While on screen footage has Photon Torpedoes in the mid range Kiloton to single digit megaton yields, the (admittedly non-canon) Technical Manuals say they carry 1.5 kilograms of antimatter and presumably react with another 1.5kg of matter at 74% efficiency. E=mc2 gives us 48 megatons, however in space half of that is going to go off in the opposite direction as the blast explodes all around. So even on a direct hit only 50% of that is going to do any damage to the ship/shields.
Perion 4 months ago
@lonstar70 The Goa'uld Ha'taks weapons are 200 megatons per shot, as calculated based on how many shots their shields can withstand (their shield strength is calculated by the fact that they can tank a Multimegaton nuke laced with naquadah which then becomes a multigigaton nuke, but can't tank weaponry that is significantly more powerful/concentrated)
Acclamator firepower comes from the canon (different companies have different policies) Cross Sections book, which gives the numbers flat out.
Perion 4 months ago
@Perion Is that Babylon 5 lingo? I never watched that show. How do you know the power of Starfleet, Rebel Alliance, and Empire weapons? And which BSG do you follow? The old one with lasers or the new one that just uses bullets?
lonstar70 4 months ago
@lonstar70 As said the Cross Sections book as well as several scenes in the film gives us an idea of the power of Empire Weapons, which by extension a ballpark for the Rebel Alliance as well. As for B5, The Nukes used to bust up Shadow vessels were 500-600 megatons in yield according to G'Kar, and Mimbari ships have been destroyed by much much less (though they rely on advanced ECM rather than shields or armour). My other post explains where firepower estimates of Starfleet torpedoes come from.
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Perion 4 months ago
I prefer the original BSG rather than the emofest that is the newer one, but the technology difference between the two as far as firepower is concerned isn't that huge comparitively speaking. OBSG ships and fighters would have no trouble against their NBSG counterparts, but neither would be able to stand against a Star Destroyer nor would both combined if they teamed up to face one.
Perion 4 months ago
I LOVE FREE FOR ALL BATTLES :D
ArmorTalons310 4 months ago
wheres the death star!!!
kentuckyexplosion 4 months ago
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d you break suspension of disbelief and you break the credibility of the story (along with making it a mindless slugging match).
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MrSithStalker 4 months ago
Robto chicken star wars
VongolaAQW223 5 months ago
I love the ending! That poor Star Destroyer stood no chance!
tbone1975uk 5 months ago
@tbone1975uk actually if they followed the source materials of the respective franchises, the Star Destroyer would have effortlessly annihilated the entire opposing fleet.
Perion 5 months ago
@Perion er.. I hate to be the one to tell you this but... well it's not real. It didn't happen. It's entertainment. You know, good guys beating the bad guys. It remarks like yours that give sci-fi fans a bad name.
tbone1975uk 5 months ago
@tbone1975uk There is such a thing as continuity. Break continuity and you break suspension of disbelief and you break the credibility of the story (along with making it a mindless slugging match).
The Good guys can still win even if they cannot through a direct fight (a high ranking imperial defector / sympathiser for just one better example.)
Unless you want it to be as vacuous and cliche/predictable as Freddy vs Jason or the Aliens vs Predator films.
Perion 5 months ago
1.Star Trek 2. BSG 3. Star wars 4. Babylon 5
ugaboj 5 months ago
@ugaboj In which you like best or where you think their technology levels are compared to one another?
Perion 5 months ago
@Perion well i like Star trek the best tough BSG comes realy close in the second place. as for technologies, i think Star wars is the most advanced, then comes star trekm and then bsg, as for babylon, i havent watched any of it so i dont know
ugaboj 5 months ago
@ugaboj Cool, B5 is tricky to grade tech wise compared to Star Trek and BSG, I'd say it's somewhere in Between for the younger races and higher than Trek (but below Star Wars) for the First Ones.
Perion 5 months ago
@Perion Actually, Star Trek has more much technically advanced ships than Star Wars. Their ships are also much better at improvising. I'd have to give it to B5 if they had Whitestars, though.
Verixus113 5 months ago
@Verixus113 Nope, Star Wars weapons and shields are enormously powerful, to put it into perspective.
BSG Nukes: 70 kilotons to 1 megaton tacticals 50 megaton strategics (used for orbital bombardment and attacking shipyards)
B5 Nukes: 2 Megatons to 500/600 megatons (2 used to destroy the capital city of Za'ha'dum, 1 used to destroy Shadow Battle Crabs and cripple others nearby)
Star Trek Torpedoes: 24 megaton Photons, 48 megaton Quantums, 43 gigaton Cardassian Dreadnought.
Perion 5 months ago
Z'ha'dum rather,
Star Wars: 6 Megaton Light Turbolasers, 200 gigaton Medium Turbolasers, 13 Teraton Heavy Turbolasers.
The previous weapons mentioned are used in very limited quantity by the series portrayed, Trek ships have generally 2 to 4 launchers on all but their most heavily armed vessels, B5 rarely launch them at all, and BSG likewise.
Star Wars on the other hand use weapons of such magnitude like BSG use railguns, B5 use pulse turrets, or Trek use phasers.
Perion 5 months ago
While we see Trek ships improvise allot, it should be noted that none of those would work on a Star Wars vessel. I have yet to see a technobable solution that would have any effect on an Imperial vessel. It would be beyond silly to assume that they could devise one given the precedents where they were incapable of doing so to certain races and had to talk/bluff their way out of being disintegrated.
Perion 5 months ago
Where are you getting these proported statistics? I'd like to read this myself.
Verixus113 5 months ago
@Verixus113 BSG in dialogue refer to their nukes as Class D warheads, no yields are given but real world Class D warheads are 70 kilotons to 1 megaton. In the miniseries, Adama states that the Cylons are bombing Caprica with 50 megaton nukes.
B5 Nuke yields are given in the episodes, a pair of 2 megaton nukes are used to destroy the black star in "in the begining" the yield stated on screen, G'Kar states the yields of the others when delivering them to Ivonova.
Perion 5 months ago
Star Trek Photon Torpedo yields are trickier to measure, they only use the made up and meaningless "Isoton" unit to describe them. On screen observed and implied yields given their effects on asteroids etc are closer to 1 megaton. The 24 megaton yield comes from the admittedly non-canon Tech manuals, so it's being generous. the 43 gigaton Cardassian Dreadnought is the max theoretical yield given the payload of one ton of antimatter with one ton of matter.
Perion 5 months ago
The Star Wars Turbolaser yields can be observed on screen, as we see light turbolasers vapourize asteroids in ESB in 1/15th of a second, requiring the equivalent energy of a 6 megaton nuke, concentrated and focused. The Ship to Ship weaponry cannot be gauged on screen as they are never seen firing on anything other than other ships, which are made of super duper materials and have shields. The Canon tech books such as the Complete Cross Sections gives us the 200 gigaton figure.
Perion 5 months ago
Scaling and extrapolating the reactor size and power generation capabilities of known ships in star wars with that of the Imperial I class Star Destroyer, as well as the stated ability to divert all power to weapons, and making some divisions (1/3 of the reactor power to weapons, another 1/3 to shields and the rest to engines under normal circumstances, the reactor normally being run at 1/6th capacity to conserve fuel, and the power divided between the weapons depending on type.)
Perion 5 months ago
@Perion still missing the Star Trek yields. Yes, I remember the giving of the yields in Babylon 5.
Verixus113 5 months ago
@Verixus113 I mentioned the Trek yield sources and Wars sources, had to make more comments to fit it all.
Perion 5 months ago
Great work! I only wish that when the Destroyer perusing Galactica in the final scene, got a shower of fire on it; like what the Enterprise and Excelsior gave Chang's bird of Prey in "the undiscovered country". Imagine battle ships/fighters from ST, B5 and Galactica bringing the rain on that Destroyer. That would be choice! It even would've been sweeter if they jumped to Proxima3 and destroyed the Destroyer at B5.
Still and excellent piece of work.
scarabY2k 5 months ago
@scarabY2k If the video decided to be accurate to the respective source materials the Star Destroyer would have wiped out everything.
Perion 5 months ago
@Perion Too right Perion. The Star Destroyer ain't no joke!
scarabY2k 5 months ago
ok, i don't have much issue with this battle, but come one, 2 photon torpedoes to take out a star destroyer?
Ryagful 5 months ago
You know, Star Wars isn't necessarily the most powerful hands down, but they are the most technologically advanced, they have technology that makes all the rest of these peeps ships look like toasters with machine guns strapped to them...(Go away, I already patented it....)
Mylesdude101 5 months ago
galactica ftw
killjoycodboy 5 months ago
It's always more fun when the good guys team up, rather than stupidly fighting each other, like in so many other videos.
DoomShepherd 6 months ago
@DoomShepherd INDEED!
And a good commentary to sci-fi television comparisons in general. You usually have people having Sci-Fi "measuring" contests on which series is the best and who can kick the others butt. Trek, B5, Galactica and Star Wars are individual stories and are great in their own right. This vid is great because it kinda let's one know that each show in it's greatness can exsist in the Sci-Fi realm.
scarabY2k 5 months ago
@scarabY2k As far as I'm concerned which series is "the best" and who can kick the others butt are two completely different things. Especially considering which series is "The Best" is based on personal preference. While who can beat who is established by the companies, intentionally or not.
Perion 5 months ago
@Perion That's what I was trying to convey, and I echo your comments.
That's just something I've observed throughout YT and other forums.
scarabY2k 5 months ago
STAR WARS FTW
44448a 6 months ago 2
I haven't seen this in years, lol. Made by Johan Alm, BTW.
Kosh800 6 months ago
@Kosh800 me neither haha... aaah brings back nerd memories
aidyspady999 6 months ago
NICE!!! really like this well done :)
Jtslugshipo 6 months ago
the uss defiant = win.
d0gm34t 6 months ago
Aww Galactica made it Home when earth's greatest heroes saved them!
XvxBERSERKxvX 6 months ago
i wonder what would happen if the covenant was in there...
qb300 6 months ago
you forgot the Clone Wars during star wars
fartingrocket2012 6 months ago
dude the was super awesome
claudyu2441 6 months ago
Then The Borg show up, and assimilate everyone :)
bas4116 6 months ago
@bas4116 Not really, Assimilation is Futile.
Perion 6 months ago
"OUTSTANDING!!"
MrWINNSLAW 6 months ago in playlist famous sci-fi battles
That Was Awesome! You even put Voyager in there.
griffenboy123 6 months ago
Nerdgasm!
VWVVWVVWV 6 months ago
The title of this video is fucked up where is Dr.who?
ThisisAliFareedshow 7 months ago
And then the death Star comes fling out of nowhere and blows everyone back to Hell. But the death Star couldnt make a cameo cause it was busy doing a Pizza Hut commercial.
XvxBERSERKxvX 7 months ago
this video SUCKS balls :[
mudkip991 7 months ago in playlist Star Battles
@KeturahSalisbury syfy(.)com
sniper11789 7 months ago
How did the spaceship Alexei Leonov ended up in Babylon 5?
cmsahe 7 months ago
Isn't That a Cardassian ship at 2:00?
TheChosenOne337 7 months ago
you see the Galactica ran like a little bitch
lovelace64 7 months ago
@lovelace64 as usual.
XvxBERSERKxvX 7 months ago
Omega rulez
BMWM3GTRLOVER 7 months ago
@Perion No. That is exactly why fighters were mass progduced. Simple, effective. And you just pulled 3000gs off the top of your head. That would cause the fighter to shred itself apart.
Frankly, you guys should read up on some of this, and back it up with decent science.
The USS Dauntless wasn't a FED. ship. They weren't on anyones side. (Borg Maybe)
Entertaining, but doesn't count the ships true attributes whatsoever.
Think I'll stop watching this kind of stuff. Always pisses me off.
sdk2013 7 months ago
@sdk2013 no, I didn't pull 3000gs off the top of my head, in fact I was being exceedingly conservative with it since I couldn't remember the exact figure, but it's actually well over 5000gs. Clearly they have durable enough fighters that they would not shred themselves apart. The actual figure, for another shieldless, simple, effective and mass produced fighter (of the Clone Wars that the TIE was meant to replace as it outperforms it considerably) is precisely 5200gs
Perion 7 months ago
@sdk2013 Consider the fact that the TIE Advanced X1 was state of the art, and was only mildly superior in performance to the regular TIE Fighter, the myth that TIEs are cheap, expendable pieces of crap is just that a Myth. The films say otherwise.
If Clone War fighters were so great, Vader would have used one of those during the Battle of Yavin, not a custom TIE Fighter that's only slightly faster and more manoeuvrable than the stock model.
Perion 7 months ago
@Perion
I really think you should go outside and meet people.
BrowncoatTrooper 7 months ago
@sdk2013 BAck it up with science? BWAA HAAAHA AAA! There isn't any franchise that can hold up to science! The shit is FICTION people!
lonstar70 4 months ago
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sdk2013 7 months ago
there were Nebulon-B frigates from star WARS on the star TREK side, weird, huh?
artedin1 7 months ago
@artedin1 It's to represent the Rebel Alliance
GeekAtLifeMeter 7 months ago
@GeekAtLifeMeter OHH........ thx
artedin1 7 months ago
And the wreckage from that space battle in Earth orbit fell into the South Pacific and became the SDF-1 Macross
atjnAdfhhjea 7 months ago
thanks, real fun to watch.
sk8RAS 8 months ago
Wrong wrong, wrong, those vipers don't just come out of the launch bays like that, they're THROWN OU T with full turbo!!
HunterR909 8 months ago
GO STAR TREK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheAlterans 8 months ago