A point well made through this video, much is being lost through this EU project and with uncontrolled immigrations and emigrations much more will be lost in time. It would have been amazing to see how Europe would have developed without the EU, the politicians and monarchies should be tried for treason for signing over the countries to the EU thankfully people are starting to notice the results of EU policy, and thankfully there is still time to end it before the damage becomes irreparable.
Indeed, Christ tells one to extend their hospitality to anybody who needs it. However, this is not an issue of hospitality: those homosexuals were not living on the streets or anything. That hotel was completely private property, not government property, so therefore only the private owners should be able to establish the rules.
When a "human rights" commission fines a couple who own a hotel because they refused to check in a homosexual couple, despite the fact that it was the hotel was their private property, I would call that persecution.
"The only countries where there is no religious persecution are constitutionally secular."
Right. Just like the USSR, Communist China, etc...
The way you speak about religion alone shows the hatred Humanists have for religion; you lie through your teeth.
I really am wasting my time arguing with a person who believes you can import people from Africa and Asia and "make them British". People are not made by their culture - a culture is made by its people. If you refuse to acknowledge that the BNP's arguments against non-European (and even other European) immigration into Britain are just, then to hell with you: the greatest nation on Earth is being drowned by immigrants and people like you blind yourselves to it.
Any state that is officially secular passively persecutes religion. Secularist governments in general hate religion, because the religious have a higher authority than the state. Secularist states WANT people to be irreligious, because then the highest authority is the state, with no gods to get in the way.
No common cause, of course not. It isn't as though the BNP want their country back or anything, no no.
You would rather have Germany ruling Britain today than the BNP? In that case you are no better than what the EU represents. What was the point in the Battle of Britain anyways. Let's see what STOPTHEEU has to say about this...
@TonoFonseca I would hate to see the BNP ruling Britain. That is one of the few things that would make me want to migrate along with failure to leave the EU and Britain being ruled by Germany!
What I want is for the people of all EU nations to have their say in referendums like the method that Switzerland uses.
I think that we are very lucky in Britain to have a party that believes in true equality and apposes membership of the EU. Few EU nations have that.
@TonoFonseca I would hate to see the BNP ruling Britain. That is one of the few things that would make me want to migrate along with failure to leave the EU and Britain being ruled by Germany!
What I want is for the people of all EU nations to have their say in referendums like the method that Switzerland uses.
I think that we are very lucky in Britain to have a party that believes in true equality and apposes membership of the EU. Few EU nations have that.
@TonoFonseca Well your testing me on this one! illegal immigration is clearly illegal and should not be tolerated in any respect.
As for islamification (no UKIP policy, personal opinion) Why do we have significantly more Muslims and more Mosques than we do Jews and Synagogues? Or Buddhists and Hindus and their temples?
Alright... I suppose after I sent you that WalesBNP video of that Birmingham neighbourhood, it is hard to NOT have a personal opinion...
One could also look at it economically, and look at how the taxpayers of Britain are being forced to cough up more and more in order to fund the tracking of terrorists in Britain - many of whom are British citizens - even British-born!
The UKIP has it right on the War In Afghanistan, like the BNP; if British-born Muslims are still being recruited by al-Qaeda and who have you - despite growing up in Britain and being treated fairly - how could we possibly make an impression on removing the Taliban from Afghanistan? Don't feed caviar to vicious stray dogs, because it will not appease them!
@TonoFonseca What ever makes you assume that I am a secular humanist is beyond me.
Human rights is important but the EU human rights act is complete and utter tosh because it contradicts the UN charter of human rights which overrules the EU human rights act anyway.
You can hardly be trusted; according to your channel you are an atheist and therefore by rule you are going to be anti-race and anti-religion. If race really were an "insignificant" factor in life, as you describe it to be on your profile, socities would have not ordered themselves racially for most of human history. And I have 1230 YouTube Friends who would scratch up many more good arguments for you.
You both have rights to your political stance. However I would like to encourage ideological debate rather than mere insults because you both seem rather intelligent.
However there are many things I have to disagree with purely as my opinion.
Communism and Fascism are not the same although share a few characteristics.
Racism and Fascism are different but clearly related.
I find the terms Black and White rather repulsive whether its the BNP or the current government/state using them.
I don't need to be an "expert" on British politicial affairs to know what fascism is; you deliberately give a narrow perception of what fascism is and you are demanding I stop arguing with you just because you have no argument yourself for what I have stated. Furthermore, I am not only Friends with the maker of this video, but my girlfriend is also from England. So I know more than you think.
@rahotep101 Now that comment is very hypocritical "ignorant Canadian nose" Now If I said "ignorant Islamic nose" I'd be accused of racism and it maybe true under political correctness. However I do not follow political correctness I simply respect others. There are many things that are not politically correct that I won't say because its rude.
What you have said in this post could easily be construed as rude whether its PC or not PC.
If fascism is nothing more than a "racist" government, then most countries throughout the world have been fascist for most of their history. The USA has been "racist" against multitudes of various people; Africans, Germans, Italians, Irish... my own country, Canada, had limits on the number of non-Europeans that could immigrate here until the 1960s. To this day, Japan has many nightclubs that are Japanese-only. Are all these places "fascist" too?
"Fascism" comes from the word "fasces", which was a symbol adopted by Mussolini for his anti-communist party. Fascism is a relatively new creation in human history; "racism", on the other hand, has only in the last half-century become a "crime"; this is due to the rampant activity of communists who fear-monger fascism in order to draw support. You will find that most of the early advocates of "equality" were in fact communists.
Ever heard of "national socialism"? Yes, fascism does indeed have to do with government control of industry, even if it is not DIRECT control; look at most communist countries today, and you will too see that they are run by so-called "private industrialists" too. Fascism and communism are basically the same thing, only the "enemy" of "the people" is different (e.g. Jews for Nazism, the wealthy and the aristocrats for communism).
If you think the BNP are fascists, then there is no point in even arguing with you because you clearly have no idea what fascism is. Fascism is government-control of all industry. Fascism is the rule of one dictator. Fascism is sending young boys into combat school.
Britain has a long literary history, so it is especially embarrassing for you to be so ill-informed; it is ill-advised to argue about subjects you don't understand.
Historically, culture typically runs along race lines; culture is inherited through the family first and ergo racial nationalism can be linked with cultural nationalism. Your position is nonsensical and makes just as little sense as saying that linguistic nationalism has nothing to do with racial nationalism. People can "choose" some degree of their culture today, but that is largely a new development; most people simply adopt the culture they were born to.
I've just checked your profile and you are the type of person who is destroying the greatest country to exist in human history. You can't even argue intelligently for your position (but who could?); instead, you resort to expletives.
Keep your opinions to yourself and let the likes of the UKIP and the BNP go about their business of healing your country, which you have caused so many wounds to.
@TonoFonseca Damn! You're right about the cathedrals.
I used to follow the BNP. I was never a member. I did years of research before joining UKIP. I was put of the BNP because Nick Griffin denies the holocaust and hates anyone who isn't British.
Thanks for the support though. I hope you do the research like I did. That way you will find the party that suits you best!
It is hard to get out of one once you are in so it is worth while getting the facts first. Saves you money too!
I never said I was crazy about Griffin - just BNP policies. Anyhow, I love Britain but I live in Alberta, Canada, so I couldn't actually join any British political parties...
My girlfriend is from England though. She didn't have a UKIP or a BNP candidate in the election a few months ago, so I recommended she vote English Democrat, and I like the looks of them too... there are piles of parties in Britain to vote for.
@TonoFonseca Well she should have had a UKIP candidate because we stood in all constituencies in Britain.
I love Canada. Your like our sister nation. I have family in BC
Thank you for your support and you maybe able to join UKIP even though your in Canada. I know we have members outside Britain. The ones i know of are all in the EU though.
I will try and find out for you. Its probably the postal address. If you really want to join you can use mine and I will forward the membership to you.
Ah yes, I just checked again and there was a David Waller running in her constituency... I think I told her to vote either UKIP or English Democrats... I wasn't too familiar with the UKIP at the time.
You have family in B.C. eh? Where, might I ask?
I thought Britain now had a law that only British citizens could join political parties... nonetheless, my membership wouldn't contribute much anyway. I am poor enough as it is.
Ah yes, I just checked again and there was a David Waller running in her constituency... I think I told her to vote either UKIP or English Democrats... I wasn't too familiar with the UKIP at the time.
You have family in B.C. eh? Where, might I ask?
I thought Britain now had a law that only British citizens could join political parties... nonetheless, my membership wouldn't contribute much anyway. I am poor enough as it is.
@TonoFonseca To be honest I have no idea where in BC! I have never met them. I have family all over the CW! Australia too. We date back to Lord Nelson who's in our tree. My aunt paid for research to be done... So yeh. I don't know about this law either but I have asked on the forum if you can join using my postal address if I forward it on. I'll see the feedback tomorrow.
The Engdems are not anti EU. They just want England to have independence from the UK similar to Scotland with an assembly.
GOD BLESS SWITZERLAND!!
Winkelried4 10 months ago
A point well made through this video, much is being lost through this EU project and with uncontrolled immigrations and emigrations much more will be lost in time. It would have been amazing to see how Europe would have developed without the EU, the politicians and monarchies should be tried for treason for signing over the countries to the EU thankfully people are starting to notice the results of EU policy, and thankfully there is still time to end it before the damage becomes irreparable.
JAMD456 10 months ago
@rahotep101
Indeed, Christ tells one to extend their hospitality to anybody who needs it. However, this is not an issue of hospitality: those homosexuals were not living on the streets or anything. That hotel was completely private property, not government property, so therefore only the private owners should be able to establish the rules.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101 I would agree with this. However how does one define "socially assimilated" And what percentage are "socially assimilated"
Many questions have a variety of answers depending on who is asked.
The answer from one specific individual can also vary from time to time dependent on current scenarios and current state of mind.
This is very true. At one time I liked the BNP!
Thank god I never joined.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@rahotep101
When a "human rights" commission fines a couple who own a hotel because they refused to check in a homosexual couple, despite the fact that it was the hotel was their private property, I would call that persecution.
"The only countries where there is no religious persecution are constitutionally secular."
Right. Just like the USSR, Communist China, etc...
The way you speak about religion alone shows the hatred Humanists have for religion; you lie through your teeth.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101
I really am wasting my time arguing with a person who believes you can import people from Africa and Asia and "make them British". People are not made by their culture - a culture is made by its people. If you refuse to acknowledge that the BNP's arguments against non-European (and even other European) immigration into Britain are just, then to hell with you: the greatest nation on Earth is being drowned by immigrants and people like you blind yourselves to it.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101
Any state that is officially secular passively persecutes religion. Secularist governments in general hate religion, because the religious have a higher authority than the state. Secularist states WANT people to be irreligious, because then the highest authority is the state, with no gods to get in the way.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101
No common cause, of course not. It isn't as though the BNP want their country back or anything, no no.
You would rather have Germany ruling Britain today than the BNP? In that case you are no better than what the EU represents. What was the point in the Battle of Britain anyways. Let's see what STOPTHEEU has to say about this...
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca I would hate to see the BNP ruling Britain. That is one of the few things that would make me want to migrate along with failure to leave the EU and Britain being ruled by Germany!
What I want is for the people of all EU nations to have their say in referendums like the method that Switzerland uses.
I think that we are very lucky in Britain to have a party that believes in true equality and apposes membership of the EU. Few EU nations have that.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca I would hate to see the BNP ruling Britain. That is one of the few things that would make me want to migrate along with failure to leave the EU and Britain being ruled by Germany!
What I want is for the people of all EU nations to have their say in referendums like the method that Switzerland uses.
I think that we are very lucky in Britain to have a party that believes in true equality and apposes membership of the EU. Few EU nations have that.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
What is the UKIP's position on the illegal immigrants and the Islamification and all that?
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca Well your testing me on this one! illegal immigration is clearly illegal and should not be tolerated in any respect.
As for islamification (no UKIP policy, personal opinion) Why do we have significantly more Muslims and more Mosques than we do Jews and Synagogues? Or Buddhists and Hindus and their temples?
Is it a result of this war we are involved in?
Does it pose a risk?
These questions are asked so often today.
It is similar to the Irish in the 90s.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
Alright... I suppose after I sent you that WalesBNP video of that Birmingham neighbourhood, it is hard to NOT have a personal opinion...
One could also look at it economically, and look at how the taxpayers of Britain are being forced to cough up more and more in order to fund the tracking of terrorists in Britain - many of whom are British citizens - even British-born!
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
The UKIP has it right on the War In Afghanistan, like the BNP; if British-born Muslims are still being recruited by al-Qaeda and who have you - despite growing up in Britain and being treated fairly - how could we possibly make an impression on removing the Taliban from Afghanistan? Don't feed caviar to vicious stray dogs, because it will not appease them!
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
Oh, and although I like the BNP over the UKIP, I would rather see Farage as prime minister than Griffin.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101 Well there is a difference between the British that I am and the "British" of an Afrikaans person.
If you met a Caucasian Briton who claimed to be 100% middle eastern would you accept the claim?
Clear genetic differences exist, Only idiots deny,
But to claim one is genetically superior is no more than a stupid lie.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
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TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca What ever makes you assume that I am a secular humanist is beyond me.
Human rights is important but the EU human rights act is complete and utter tosh because it contradicts the UN charter of human rights which overrules the EU human rights act anyway.
All we need is a bill of rights.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
I was talking to him...
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca Oh sorry!
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@rahotep101
You can hardly be trusted; according to your channel you are an atheist and therefore by rule you are going to be anti-race and anti-religion. If race really were an "insignificant" factor in life, as you describe it to be on your profile, socities would have not ordered themselves racially for most of human history. And I have 1230 YouTube Friends who would scratch up many more good arguments for you.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
You both have rights to your political stance. However I would like to encourage ideological debate rather than mere insults because you both seem rather intelligent.
However there are many things I have to disagree with purely as my opinion.
Communism and Fascism are not the same although share a few characteristics.
Racism and Fascism are different but clearly related.
I find the terms Black and White rather repulsive whether its the BNP or the current government/state using them.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@rahotep101
I don't need to be an "expert" on British politicial affairs to know what fascism is; you deliberately give a narrow perception of what fascism is and you are demanding I stop arguing with you just because you have no argument yourself for what I have stated. Furthermore, I am not only Friends with the maker of this video, but my girlfriend is also from England. So I know more than you think.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101 Now that comment is very hypocritical "ignorant Canadian nose" Now If I said "ignorant Islamic nose" I'd be accused of racism and it maybe true under political correctness. However I do not follow political correctness I simply respect others. There are many things that are not politically correct that I won't say because its rude.
What you have said in this post could easily be construed as rude whether its PC or not PC.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@rahotep101
If fascism is nothing more than a "racist" government, then most countries throughout the world have been fascist for most of their history. The USA has been "racist" against multitudes of various people; Africans, Germans, Italians, Irish... my own country, Canada, had limits on the number of non-Europeans that could immigrate here until the 1960s. To this day, Japan has many nightclubs that are Japanese-only. Are all these places "fascist" too?
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep1
"Fascism" comes from the word "fasces", which was a symbol adopted by Mussolini for his anti-communist party. Fascism is a relatively new creation in human history; "racism", on the other hand, has only in the last half-century become a "crime"; this is due to the rampant activity of communists who fear-monger fascism in order to draw support. You will find that most of the early advocates of "equality" were in fact communists.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep1
Ever heard of "national socialism"? Yes, fascism does indeed have to do with government control of industry, even if it is not DIRECT control; look at most communist countries today, and you will too see that they are run by so-called "private industrialists" too. Fascism and communism are basically the same thing, only the "enemy" of "the people" is different (e.g. Jews for Nazism, the wealthy and the aristocrats for communism).
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101
If you think the BNP are fascists, then there is no point in even arguing with you because you clearly have no idea what fascism is. Fascism is government-control of all industry. Fascism is the rule of one dictator. Fascism is sending young boys into combat school.
Britain has a long literary history, so it is especially embarrassing for you to be so ill-informed; it is ill-advised to argue about subjects you don't understand.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101
Historically, culture typically runs along race lines; culture is inherited through the family first and ergo racial nationalism can be linked with cultural nationalism. Your position is nonsensical and makes just as little sense as saying that linguistic nationalism has nothing to do with racial nationalism. People can "choose" some degree of their culture today, but that is largely a new development; most people simply adopt the culture they were born to.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@rahotep101
I've just checked your profile and you are the type of person who is destroying the greatest country to exist in human history. You can't even argue intelligently for your position (but who could?); instead, you resort to expletives.
Keep your opinions to yourself and let the likes of the UKIP and the BNP go about their business of healing your country, which you have caused so many wounds to.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca I don't like the BNP myself.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
I was trying to help you...
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca I know. Sorry. I'm not rude or abusive about it though. Everyone is entitled to a political opinion.
It just depends how one puts it across. Surely. :-)
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@rahotep101 Calm down folks! :-)
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca Damn! You're right about the cathedrals.
I used to follow the BNP. I was never a member. I did years of research before joining UKIP. I was put of the BNP because Nick Griffin denies the holocaust and hates anyone who isn't British.
Thanks for the support though. I hope you do the research like I did. That way you will find the party that suits you best!
It is hard to get out of one once you are in so it is worth while getting the facts first. Saves you money too!
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
I never said I was crazy about Griffin - just BNP policies. Anyhow, I love Britain but I live in Alberta, Canada, so I couldn't actually join any British political parties...
My girlfriend is from England though. She didn't have a UKIP or a BNP candidate in the election a few months ago, so I recommended she vote English Democrat, and I like the looks of them too... there are piles of parties in Britain to vote for.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca Well she should have had a UKIP candidate because we stood in all constituencies in Britain.
I love Canada. Your like our sister nation. I have family in BC
Thank you for your support and you maybe able to join UKIP even though your in Canada. I know we have members outside Britain. The ones i know of are all in the EU though.
I will try and find out for you. Its probably the postal address. If you really want to join you can use mine and I will forward the membership to you.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
Ah yes, I just checked again and there was a David Waller running in her constituency... I think I told her to vote either UKIP or English Democrats... I wasn't too familiar with the UKIP at the time.
You have family in B.C. eh? Where, might I ask?
I thought Britain now had a law that only British citizens could join political parties... nonetheless, my membership wouldn't contribute much anyway. I am poor enough as it is.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
Ah yes, I just checked again and there was a David Waller running in her constituency... I think I told her to vote either UKIP or English Democrats... I wasn't too familiar with the UKIP at the time.
You have family in B.C. eh? Where, might I ask?
I thought Britain now had a law that only British citizens could join political parties... nonetheless, my membership wouldn't contribute much anyway. I am poor enough as it is.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago
@TonoFonseca To be honest I have no idea where in BC! I have never met them. I have family all over the CW! Australia too. We date back to Lord Nelson who's in our tree. My aunt paid for research to be done... So yeh. I don't know about this law either but I have asked on the forum if you can join using my postal address if I forward it on. I'll see the feedback tomorrow.
The Engdems are not anti EU. They just want England to have independence from the UK similar to Scotland with an assembly.
STOPTHEEU 1 year ago
@STOPTHEEU
Oh, I see, I was just checking to see if I had been there...
If you ever get a chance to go to Radium Hot Springs, B.C. - do so.
You are related to Lord Nelson! Very interesting, such an important figure in British history...
Ah, I had a bit of a concern about that: proto-England sentiment from the English Democrats.
TonoFonseca 1 year ago