The anti-mutilationists must NOT GIVE UP THEIR FIGHT! No matter how many times you guys get defeated, remember that this is the integrity of the genitals of little boys you're fighting for. If a lion is eating my kids, I will fight with him to the death even if I have no chance of winning. Trying to stop circumcision is the same thing: it is such a horrifyingly immoral thing, that you need to fight against it even if it seems hopeless and you get defeated ad nauseum. Eventually, we will win!!!
Circumcision will not prevent HIV, AIDS, or any diseases. It's ridiculous. No one has the religious right to circumcise children and risk their life for no reason. Female circumcision is illegal, even if it's for religious reasons. Male circumcision should be illegal, religious reasons included.
With overreaching legal rulings that allow religion to reach into a boy's pants, grab his genitals and slice away, well, soon the intact genitals will be deemed "anti-semitic". Hold on to your crotch boys the circumcision police are coming. Of course, the NEXT normal botched circ. or death in SF county will come demanding $ from SF for not protecting.
Blessings to those whom stand up for the rights of the child. Children (and especially infants) will never be able to defend themselves; they will always be at the mercy of adults.
As adults we must recognize that it is wrong to cause harm to children, regardless of our abilities to justify these actions. We are entrusted to their protection and not their owners.
This is just one step in the process. Civil rights for people of color in this country took many years of persistent work, to overcome the tradition of Jim Crow, people's sloth and lethargy. Change did come, first in ideas, then in people, then in the law. This will be a similar battle. Even as a nearly grass roots effort we have been very effective so far. Sexual mutilation of minors will not be seen as a "right" forever. It is a human rights issue.
Question: When he says most people grow up and don't like circumcision, why would they then circumcise their child? Every parent who circumcised their child, was once a circumcised child too.
@bfsportsman613 They continue to do it because of cultural conformity, the fear of being ostracized, the inability to admit oneself or partner or sibling or friend has been abused by one's or his own parents, etc.
Mothers almost univerally cry in impotent sorrow and guilt during the brises of their sons. Grown men keep their heads down or walk out of the room, sometimes sick to their stomachs.... and yet... it's "a BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE!" right? ... There are no bounds to human rationalization.
@bfsportsman613 By doing as was done to them, they can 1) ensure that their sons don't have more penis than they do 2) ensure that their son looks like them (a very basic biological hedge against nurturing someone else's genes) 3) maintain their denial that they were harmed.
The guy in the beggining who claims to Jewish is obviously not Jewish when at 3:33 he says circumcision is part of "your religion" to the man he is debating. Clearly if he was Jewish or had Jewish faith he would have said "our" or "my religion". Posing as a Jew to make people think that most Jews are against circumcision is pretty decieving and devious. I guess not enough people and Jews agree with him that he has to pretend to be a Jew who does.
@MCandHIV so then he's not Jewish. Renouncing your religion makes you no longer that religion. Just like a Christian who converts to Judiasm is no longer a Christian, a Jew (or any religion for that matter) who renounces his religion is not that religion (because he renounced it). He also clearly says he's dressed as Jewish as possible (which he's not but he's wearing Jewish Stars....) just to trick people into thinking he's Jewish. It's called deception.
@DetestableCrabmeat How many Jews practice circumcision? Well all observant Jews do and I believe according to the CDC nearly all people in Israel are circumcised and probably more than 80% of Jews are! I'll get the exact number for you in a second.
@bfsportsman613 Ah yes. Jews like you just love the fact that the word "Jew" is ethnoreligious; you can be a follower of a religion or a member of a race or both whenever it suits your rhetorical needs.
That man has Jewish DNA. He was born into a family that cut up his penis as part of a Jewish blood rite. You know exactly what he means by "I am a Jew, and I oppose circumcising completely healthy infants."
Regardless, he's one of many men who are upset about having had their penises cut up.
Sincerest thanks to all the great people who are working so hard to bring sanity to this issue.
This is an issue of children's rights! The measure being stricken from the ballot is just a glitch in a much larger and more important discussion. Marilyn Milos began that discussion 30 years ago. It has never been stronger than it is now. Justice will ultimately prevail.
I'm Jewish and I'm not circumcised ;) My baby's will not be circumcised; it will be there adult choice.
avielgillan 1 month ago
@avielgillan halleluja!
ffgftfgrtedtjlpoiifd 1 month ago
all those involved in banning this disgusting practice you must keep spreading the word!
Brushles83 2 months ago
The anti-mutilationists must NOT GIVE UP THEIR FIGHT! No matter how many times you guys get defeated, remember that this is the integrity of the genitals of little boys you're fighting for. If a lion is eating my kids, I will fight with him to the death even if I have no chance of winning. Trying to stop circumcision is the same thing: it is such a horrifyingly immoral thing, that you need to fight against it even if it seems hopeless and you get defeated ad nauseum. Eventually, we will win!!!
PCoderch 4 months ago
Circumcision will not prevent HIV, AIDS, or any diseases. It's ridiculous. No one has the religious right to circumcise children and risk their life for no reason. Female circumcision is illegal, even if it's for religious reasons. Male circumcision should be illegal, religious reasons included.
TheDarkSideHasTacos 6 months ago
FGM is also often sought by victims for their children.
TLCTugger 7 months ago
With overreaching legal rulings that allow religion to reach into a boy's pants, grab his genitals and slice away, well, soon the intact genitals will be deemed "anti-semitic". Hold on to your crotch boys the circumcision police are coming. Of course, the NEXT normal botched circ. or death in SF county will come demanding $ from SF for not protecting.
kotfrank 7 months ago
Blessings to those whom stand up for the rights of the child. Children (and especially infants) will never be able to defend themselves; they will always be at the mercy of adults.
As adults we must recognize that it is wrong to cause harm to children, regardless of our abilities to justify these actions. We are entrusted to their protection and not their owners.
jojomardell 7 months ago
So much ownage in this video.
TiniNormi 7 months ago
This is just one step in the process. Civil rights for people of color in this country took many years of persistent work, to overcome the tradition of Jim Crow, people's sloth and lethargy. Change did come, first in ideas, then in people, then in the law. This will be a similar battle. Even as a nearly grass roots effort we have been very effective so far. Sexual mutilation of minors will not be seen as a "right" forever. It is a human rights issue.
TinWoodsmanXXX 7 months ago
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TinWoodsmanXXX 7 months ago
Question: When he says most people grow up and don't like circumcision, why would they then circumcise their child? Every parent who circumcised their child, was once a circumcised child too.
bfsportsman613 7 months ago
@bfsportsman613 They continue to do it because of cultural conformity, the fear of being ostracized, the inability to admit oneself or partner or sibling or friend has been abused by one's or his own parents, etc.
Mothers almost univerally cry in impotent sorrow and guilt during the brises of their sons. Grown men keep their heads down or walk out of the room, sometimes sick to their stomachs.... and yet... it's "a BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE!" right? ... There are no bounds to human rationalization.
heirofsalazar 7 months ago
@bfsportsman613 By doing as was done to them, they can 1) ensure that their sons don't have more penis than they do 2) ensure that their son looks like them (a very basic biological hedge against nurturing someone else's genes) 3) maintain their denial that they were harmed.
Hugh7777 6 months ago
The guy in the beggining who claims to Jewish is obviously not Jewish when at 3:33 he says circumcision is part of "your religion" to the man he is debating. Clearly if he was Jewish or had Jewish faith he would have said "our" or "my religion". Posing as a Jew to make people think that most Jews are against circumcision is pretty decieving and devious. I guess not enough people and Jews agree with him that he has to pretend to be a Jew who does.
bfsportsman613 7 months ago
@bfsportsman613 He's Jewish. He's renounced his religion though because of the issue at issue.
MCandHIV 7 months ago
@MCandHIV so then he's not Jewish. Renouncing your religion makes you no longer that religion. Just like a Christian who converts to Judiasm is no longer a Christian, a Jew (or any religion for that matter) who renounces his religion is not that religion (because he renounced it). He also clearly says he's dressed as Jewish as possible (which he's not but he's wearing Jewish Stars....) just to trick people into thinking he's Jewish. It's called deception.
bfsportsman613 6 months ago
@bfsportsman613 But he IS a Jew. There is no deception here.
And if that is not enough for you, Dr. Dean Edell is one notable PRACTICING Jew who continues to speak out against circumcision.
DetestableCrabmeat 6 months ago
@DetestableCrabmeat No way! Are you serious? One practicing Jew against Circumcision with 13 million other Practicing Jews for Circumcision?
bfsportsman613 6 months ago
@bfsportsman613 Google "Bris Shalom", my naive friend.
DetestableCrabmeat 6 months ago
@DetestableCrabmeat The Jewish population is 13 million. How many Jews are apart of Bris Shalom again?
bfsportsman613 6 months ago
@bfsportsman613 Now that, I don't know. On the other hand, how many Jews practice circumcision?
DetestableCrabmeat 6 months ago
@DetestableCrabmeat How many Jews practice circumcision? Well all observant Jews do and I believe according to the CDC nearly all people in Israel are circumcised and probably more than 80% of Jews are! I'll get the exact number for you in a second.
bfsportsman613 6 months ago
@MCandHIV Jew or in Hebrew Y'hudi means one who praises YHVH. Secular Jew is a contradiction.
ChildofYeshua777 5 months ago
@bfsportsman613 Ah yes. Jews like you just love the fact that the word "Jew" is ethnoreligious; you can be a follower of a religion or a member of a race or both whenever it suits your rhetorical needs.
That man has Jewish DNA. He was born into a family that cut up his penis as part of a Jewish blood rite. You know exactly what he means by "I am a Jew, and I oppose circumcising completely healthy infants."
Regardless, he's one of many men who are upset about having had their penises cut up.
heirofsalazar 7 months ago
@bfsportsman613 you noticed it too! lol its like the gay agenda using "muslim" people in their propaganda who cant even talk arabic
IbnNero 6 months ago
@IbnNero pretendin being muslim homosexuals LOL
IbnNero 6 months ago
Great work from some great people!
TheChallenger2011 7 months ago 2
i love you all & hold you in high respect <3
oh2love4love 7 months ago
NO EXCUSES for genital mutilation of children!
Chadolution 7 months ago 6
Thanks to all who put themselves out there for the rights and well being of children. This is one more step in the long journey for human rights.
HG354 7 months ago 4
Thanks for this great video document!
Sincerest thanks to all the great people who are working so hard to bring sanity to this issue.
This is an issue of children's rights! The measure being stricken from the ballot is just a glitch in a much larger and more important discussion. Marilyn Milos began that discussion 30 years ago. It has never been stronger than it is now. Justice will ultimately prevail.
Bonobo3D 7 months ago 3