1980 Olympics Gymnastics Titov on Mukhina Injury

[MixViewsOfContortion]

can i have a french traduction please? Thanks!! =)

[sorakai]

I speak three languages and I've yet to find a word fitting for this Jerk

[ancamg]

Yuri Titov was like a monster, and not only for his team. This bad influence also corrupted the judges in those times. Soviets harmed themselves and everybody else around them. Despicable!

Muckina, RIP!

[LewStatlerFAN]

Shame on you, Yuri!

[LMA629]

she actually kept trying to convince her coach that the move was too dangerous for a woman because of the height required. female gymnasts are very short, so it's hard for them to get that kind of height. every time she performed it, she got injured. she told her coach she would break her neck one day but he just shrugged her off and said that she wasnt the kind of person who broke their neck. jackass.

[LMA629]

what a jackass. it wasnt her fault!! her coach kept pushing her to do the thomas salto! her first thought after snapping her spine was "at least i don't have to go to the olympics"

[dualpoletech]

Typical lying sack of cow plop communist. Like all of them. Cheaters, Liars, users and above all, I should say, below all, heartless bastards. I come from a communist nation. At age os 16 I made the 1976 Olympic team free and clear. However I was knocked off the team to give way to a more "EXPERIENCED" swimmer and was told that I had to train hard to make the Moscow games in 1980. I told them to get bent and to shove Moscow up their ass. I never competed again and I was banned from training.

[krakenwave]

Despite the tragedy of Mukhina's accident - and the self-serving bullshit that this lying toad digs out - the fact is that she would not have made the Olympic team even if fully fit. Her 78 WC performance was excellent but it was the best she could ever do and by 2 years later it was not going to be enough. And she knew it.

[7beers]

@krakenwave Can you clarify: you're saying if she wouldn't have been injured, she wouldn't have made it in 80? Why not, if she was #1 just 2 years earlier?

[TheSienna29]

@krakenwave I agree. By 1979 her performances had lost some of their sparkle. 2 Years is a lifetime in gymnastics.

[robbiesyohn]

Gymnastics died after 1990. I officially believe that because the routines got more difficult and judges became too demanding and accidents kept happening. The beauty and grace and agility died as well. It's a sorry sport unless gymnasts want to force the beauty and grace back into by disobeying coaches and judges deliberately.

[7beers]

He says at the very end that the rumor is not true. What rumor - that she was paralyzed (which was actually the truth)? Or perhaps there was a rumor that she was dead?

[revofree]

Its sick... and people dont learn from these terrible tragedys...

Where I go to practice tricking (kind of tumbling), the main coach has the "elite" girls in with us at the same time... and she is such a horrible ***** to them... One girl was forced into trying a move she knew she couldnt do and as a result badly sprained both her ankles, and while she was crying the coach was shouting at her.. (even the girls parents were watching and did not care)...

[krakenwave]

@revofree

"Where I go to practice tricking ..."

heheheheh

[trashywilma]

I think it's despicable, when asked if she will compete again, to lie and say she won't because of her age. This man lead a system which pushed young girls to their breaking point, then threw them away when they were no longer useful. There's a place in Hell for this man.

[svetaswan]

Another thing: it seemed like word of Mukhina's accident leaked to the West pretty quickly. That's surprising - b/c I thought the Soviets would have successfully covered this up. Don't get me wrong: I'm glad that the truth got out, but I'm wondering how it happened.

[svetaswan]

Was Mukhina's coach ever allowed to coach again? Clearly, this guy displayed cataclysmic, pathological lack of judgment regarding a gymnast under his care. If the Soviets had any sense, they would have never allowed this guy to coach gymnastics again.

Mukhina's coach either was blinded to his athlete's limits, or displayed reckless disregard for them. That is an "error" that deserves serious punishment - & I'm wondering what kind of punishment Mukhina's coach faced b/c of this disaster.

[trashywilma]

Mukhina's coach did go on to work in other countries. I believe he's dead now.

[auswriteratheart]

Actually, Klimenko wasn't there at the time. I'm not sure that that makes it any less his responsibility, but he wasn't there. Make of it what you will.

[svetaswan]

Are such tumbling passes that crippled Mukhina banned in women's gymnastics now?

I was watching the men's USA Championships the other day - & David Sender gutted out a floor routine on bum ankles. One of the tumbling passes he managed to complete had the type of "forward roll" landing that was so tragic for Mukhina. Tim Daggett - in sort-of an alarmed tone - questioned David's judgment for even doing that pass when he was not up to full-strength.

[LilPetit]

@svetaswan The Thomas Salto has been banned in women's gymnastics, not men's.

[simplycomplicated333]

"she fall down and made injured" 00:32

whatta bird.

[Dan00181622]

wow. seriously this guy needs a sick reality check.........or a slap in the face

[megamicron]

Titov opprobrium lier...anyway your lies could not hide the truth of her beauty and all that she gave in terms of example to follow and overcoming.

[hinginator]

After all she did for her country, they blame her, the victim. That girl deserved better than that.

[janajuggles]

Ugh! Such BS it makes me angry. She deserved so much better.

[unamukka]

=(((((((((((((

[rodrigoribeiro1902]

could someone explain what he said in 00:52 - "i'm sure you that you can have a chance to ????????????? in some moments, some maybe days"

[petitanglais]

Sounds like he's saying "....make some interviews in some months, some days maybe"

Hope that helps

[rodrigoribeiro1902]

yes, that's it! thanks a lot!!

[daphnedumaurrier]

. . and now the whole world knows that you are a liar . .

Shame on you.

Thanks for posting this MizMamie.

[vatoum]

its sad how nations used their gymnasts as toys and then dropped them as used kleenex.

This guy is a liar as USSR and USA were.

Yelena was a collateral victim of a sadistic cold war.

But a great gymnast too, one of the best. отдых в мире Yelena.

[pessimystica]

wtf, the guy talks around the injury, & then uses her age as an excuse?!?! what a jerkHEAD!!!!!!!

[Joannasime]

Yuri Titov is a liar that I once admired and trusted!!!

[shjess]

This is pathetic--It's so obvious that he skirts around the questions and minimizes the horrible reality of what was happening.

[larameehan]

what a crim

[espinaca79]

What a Liar! How infamous!!!

[cherrydani]

what liarsssss

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i hadent seen this

thnx 4 posting this

[KarenLovesGymnastics]

Sorry, I couldn't make out a word he said, could somebody tell me?

[ralucagymnast]

She also said that she had hurt herself badly several times trying that element, and she wasnt physically or mentally ready for it. Just so sad, and so preventable. At least now she is at peace:(

[ralucagymnast]

This whole business makes me very very sad indeed: She said in an interview many years after this tragedy that, and I am quoting her directly now "Mikhail Klimenko(her coach) treated me like a little robot: you werent allowed to be ill, or tired. It wasnt that you COULDNT do it, you didnt want to: you were lazy".

[Stressica23]

Where did u see this interview you are talking about?

[laughsandsmiles]

That is absolutely horrendous....

[zoozooyou]

Liar!

[crazyblonde0]

that applies to the entire USSR. they all lied. about everything.

[belavia]

you may be talking about the USA

[sinjinthule]

This is appalling.

[floettree]

oh my god she broke her neck... how horendous

[zim83]

One of the most shameful moments in sports history. Rest in peace, Elena.

[tombarnes123]

rip

[gw2012ogm]

not to speak the obvious but she died 12/22/06

[xochipepe]

Perhaps I am wrong, but I heard that she wasn't trying a new routine, but was trying to get her old routine back up to par under pressure from coaches after a recent leg injury.

[DeltaSVO]

You are correct on that. Her coach went away to Moscow for some "work-related issues". She was training by herself and did not complete a rotation and fell.

[abruin4life]

From what I recall, Mukhina was trying to add a 1/1 (full) twisting ararbian 1 & 3/4 dive roll, the same trick that Kurt Thomas had in his floor routine at the Worlds in 1979 in Fort Worth, TX. Part of the reason that you don't see a whole lot of this trick anymore is that if you are at all under rotated on the skill, you are coming down, twisting your head into the floor with alot of speed.

[artgalgenius]

Mukhina had broken her leg and her coaches ordered her cast off early and she was consequently weaker on the tumbling pass and landed on her neck. She protested but her coaches insisted that she do the trick anyway.

[Beccka]

What a liar! "She's eighteen, the age limit..." She was paralyzed, for goodness' sake!

[trashywilma]

horrible.

[levlava]

Wow. I hadn't seen this. Thank you.